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X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: wikino-admin-l@lists.wikimedia.org List-Id: <wikino-admin-l.lists.wikimedia.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/options/wikino-admin-l>, <mailto:wikino-admin-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Post: <mailto:wikino-admin-l@lists.wikimedia.org> List-Help: <mailto:wikino-admin-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikino-admin-l>, <mailto:wikino-admin-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9039866714768448072==" Sender: wikino-admin-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org Errors-To: wikino-admin-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org --===============9039866714768448072== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b1605c9f9762e04bf3be175 --047d7b1605c9f9762e04bf3be175 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kilder/omtaler kommer. Den 4. mai 2012 21:21 skrev "The Sidhekin" <sidhekin@allverden.no> f=F8lgen= de: > 2012/5/4 nsaa <nsaa.wikipedia@gmail.com> > >> Nei overhode ikke > > > Sikker? > > > http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BLP#N.C3.A5levende_personer >> "Man m=E5 v=E6re forsiktig med opplysninger om n=E5levende personer. >> Informasjon med manglende kildeangivelse<http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi= kipedia:Bruk_av_kilder>, >> som er av usikker opprinnelse<http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ver= ifiserbarhet#Bevisbyrden_i_biografier_over_levende_personer> eller >> som er av straffbar karakter, m=E5 *ikke forekomme*." >> > > Det nevner ikke hurtigsletting. Det er da ogs=E5 kun en veiledning og > ikke vedtatt politikk (dessverre). > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP: >> >> We must get the article *right*. Be very firm about the use of high >> quality sources<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Sou= rces>. >> All quotations and any material*challenged or likely to be challenged* m= ust >> be explicitly attributed to a reliable, published source, which is usual= ly >> done with an inline citation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citi= ng_sources#Inline_citations>. >> Contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased<http://e= n.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Deaths>) >> that is unsourced or poorly sourced=97whether the material is negative,

>> positive, neutral, or just questionable=97should be *removed immediately >> and without waiting for discussion*.[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wik= ipedia:BLP#cite_note-1> Users >> who persistently or egregiously violate this policy may be blocked from >> editing <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy>. >> >> Kilden er igjen Wales: >> *^ <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP#cite_ref-1>* Jimmy Wales.= "WikiEN-l >> Zero information is preferred to misleading or false information"<http:/= /mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-May/046440.html>, >> May 16, 2006, and May 19, 2006<http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikie= n-l/2006-May/046732.html>; >> Jimmy Wales. Keynote speech<http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Arch= ives/Jimbo_Keynote>, >> Wikimania, August 2006. >> > > Det nevner ikke hurtigsletting. Det er da ogs=E5 en enwp-retningslinje= , > og ikke vedtatt p=E5 nowp (dessverre). > > Og om du leser kildene re Wales, ser du at det han skriver og snakker > om, er =E5 redigere vekk p=E5stander heller enn =E5 merke dem =96 ikke = =E5 slette > artikler. > > > Ja, s=E5 dette er ikke noe ny politikk... >> > > Ser fortsatt slik ut for meg. > > > Eirik > > _______________________________________________ > Wikino-admin-l mailing list > Wikino-admin-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikino-admin-l > > --047d7b1605c9f9762e04bf3be175 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p>Kilder/omtaler kommer. </p> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">Den 4. mai 2012 21:21 skrev &quot;The Sidhekin&q= uot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sidhekin@allverden.no">sidhekin@allverden.no</a>= &gt; f=F8lgende:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> 2012/5/4 nsaa <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nsaa.wikipedia@gmail.= com" target=3D"_blank">nsaa.wikipedia@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi= n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Nei overhode ikke= </blockquote><div><br>=A0 Sikker?<br>=A0<br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"= gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20= 4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div><a href=3D"http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BLP#N.C3.A5levende_personer= " target=3D"_blank">http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BLP#N.C3.A5levende_pers= oner</a></div> <div>&quot;<span style=3D"line-height:19px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-= serif">Man m=E5 v=E6re forsiktig med opplysninger om n=E5levende personer. = Informasjon med manglende=A0</span><a href=3D"http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/= Wikipedia:Bruk_av_kilder" title=3D"Wikipedia:Bruk av kilder" style=3D"line-= height:19px;color:rgb(90,54,150);font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif;text= -decoration:none;background-image:none" target=3D"_blank">kildeangivelse</a= ><span style=3D"line-height:19px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif">, s= om er av=A0</span><a href=3D"http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifis= erbarhet#Bevisbyrden_i_biografier_over_levende_personer" title=3D"Wikipedia= :Verifiserbarhet" style=3D"line-height:19px;color:rgb(90,54,150);font-size:= 13px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" tar= get=3D"_blank">usikker opprinnelse</a><span style=3D"line-height:19px;font-= size:13px;font-family:sans-serif">=A0eller som er av straffbar karakter, m= =E5=A0</span><b style=3D"line-height:19px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-s= erif">ikke forekomme</b><span style=3D"line-height:19px;font-size:13px;font= -family:sans-serif">.</span>&quot;</div> </blockquote><div><br>=A0 Det nevner ikke hurtigsletting.=A0 Det er da ogs= =E5 kun en veiledning og ikke vedtatt politikk (dessverre).<br>=A0<br><br><= /div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;bo= rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" target=3D"_blan= k">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP</a>:</div><div><br></div><div= ><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;back= ground-color:rgb(248,252,255)">We must get the article=A0</span><i style=3D= "font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rg= b(248,252,255)">right</i><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13= px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">. Be very firm about= the use of high quality=A0</span><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W= ikipedia:Verifiability#Sources" title=3D"Wikipedia:Verifiability" style=3D"= color:rgb(90,54,150);background-image:none;background-color:rgb(248,252,255= );font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px" target=3D"_blank"= >sources</a><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-heigh= t:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">. All quotations and any material= </span><b style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;b= ackground-color:rgb(248,252,255)">challenged or likely to be challenged</b>= <span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;backg= round-color:rgb(248,252,255)">=A0must be explicitly attributed to a reliabl= e, published source, which is usually done with an=A0</span><a href=3D"http= ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Inline_citations" title= =3D"Wikipedia:Citing sources" style=3D"color:rgb(90,54,150);background-imag= e:none;background-color:rgb(248,252,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:1= 3px;line-height:19px" target=3D"_blank">inline citation</a><span style=3D"f= ont-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(= 248,252,255)">. Contentious material about living persons (or=A0</span><a h= ref=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Deaths" title=3D"Recent Deaths" = style=3D"color:rgb(90,54,150);background-image:none;background-color:rgb(24= 8,252,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px" target= =3D"_blank">recently deceased</a><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font= -size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">) that is un= sourced or poorly sourced=97whether the material is negative, positive, neu= tral, or just questionable=97should be=A0</span><b style=3D"font-family:san= s-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">=

removed immediately and without waiting for discussion</b><span style=3D"fo= nt-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(2= 48,252,255)">.</span><sup style=3D"line-height:1em;font-family:sans-serif;b= ackground-color:rgb(248,252,255)"><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W= ikipedia:BLP#cite_note-1" style=3D"color:rgb(90,54,150);background-image:no= ne;background-color:initial;white-space:nowrap" target=3D"_blank">[2]</a></= sup><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;b= ackground-color:rgb(248,252,255)">=A0Users who persistently or egregiously = violate this policy may be=A0</span><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki= /Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title=3D"Wikipedia:Blocking policy" style=3D"co= lor:rgb(90,54,150);background-image:none;background-color:rgb(248,252,255);= font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px" target=3D"_blank">b= locked from editing</a><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px= ;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(248,252,255)">.</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;= background-color:rgb(248,252,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"fon= t-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(24= 8,252,255)">Kilden er igjen Wales:</span></div>

<div><b style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:17px"><a= href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP#cite_ref-1" style=3D"co= lor:rgb(90,54,150);background-image:none;background-color:initial" target= =3D"_blank">^</a></b><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;l= ine-height:17px;background-color:rgb(221,238,255)">=A0</span><span style=3D= "font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:17px">Jimmy Wales.=A0<a = href=3D"http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-May/046440.html" = style=3D"color:rgb(51,102,187);background-image:url(&#39;&#39;);background-= color:initial;padding-right:13px;background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat" tar= get=3D"_blank">&quot;WikiEN-l Zero information is preferred to misleading o= r false information&quot;</a>, May 16, 2006, and=A0<a href=3D"http://mail.w= ikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-May/046732.html" style=3D"color:rgb(51= ,102,187);background-image:url(&#39;&#39;);background-color:initial;padding= -right:13px;background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat" target=3D"_blank">May 19= , 2006</a>; Jimmy Wales.=A0<a href=3D"http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wi= ki/Archives/Jimbo_Keynote" style=3D"color:rgb(51,102,187);background-image:= url(&#39;&#39;);background-color:initial;padding-right:13px;background-repe= at:no-repeat no-repeat" target=3D"_blank">Keynote speech</a>, Wikimania, Au= gust 2006.</span></div> </blockquote><div><br>=A0 Det nevner ikke hurtigsletting.=A0 Det er da ogs= =E5 en enwp-retningslinje, og ikke vedtatt p=E5 nowp (dessverre).<br><br>= =A0 Og om du leser kildene re Wales, ser du at det han skriver og snakker o= m, er =E5 redigere vekk p=E5stander heller enn =E5 merke dem =96 ikke =E5 s= lette artikler.<br> =A0<br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt = 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:17px"= >Ja, s=E5 dette er ikke noe ny politikk...</span></div></blockquote><div><b= r>=A0 Ser fortsatt slik ut for meg.<br><br><br>Eirik<br> </div></div>

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