“YOU
GOTTA
FIGHT
DIRT y”
’
By FRITZIE ZIVIC
as told to Myron Cope
The trouble with boxing today is that there aren’t enough good, dirty
fighters. So says this expert, who parlayed an educated elbow and a well-
aimed thumb into a world title, and wishes only to spread the good word
“ptvery 20 often 1 come across compliments in the news
‘papers or magazines such at "Fritsie Zivie wasn't dhe
fighter inthe history of boxing: Greb was d
‘Or "Zivie was always careful never to throw & ful blow,
vunles he Knew exaetly whete it was going”
Iv’ nice to be remembered. Of course, there are people
who would say being remembered as a dirty fighter is not
the best of compliments, but then we each have our own
set of values and, as Dan Parker once said; Tam 2 model
‘of Zivie Virtue,
‘The point is, boxing was my business, And ie ie a direy
business, inside the ring and outside.
Ym riot knocking it. I made 2 lot of money. (which mys
teriously hor escaped me) and Tenjayed fighting. But when,
you fight for a Living, if you're smart you fight with every
trick you know. If T hadn't known nine zillion of them 1
never could have won the welterweight title from Henry
Annstrong, who knew just as many
Fighter, manager, promoter-I've held all three jobs: So
maybe I'm qualified to give a lutle onesemester course here
in Advanced Butting, Heeling, Thumbing aad Elbowing,
plus a few side lectures on the Financial Necesity of O&
Easionally Holding. Up zn Opponent, and other valuable
elated subjects.
‘Look at the three best fightere of all time—Jack johnson, .
Jack Dempoey, Harry Greb. All wonderfully disty fighters.
Look at the three best champions of our day-Rocky Mar.
iano, who was one of the best afterthebell punchers 1
ever saw; “cute” Archie Moote; and alley‘ighter Sandy’
Sailer. To them the book i something you could clout a
gay with if you had it ready, :
They called Dempsey's right hand tron ‘Mike but Jack
‘once told me his best weapon was his double left—a left to
the groin followed by a lelt to the head. ‘That's the very
weapon he knocked out Jack Sharkey with. I got the movies
in my house‘A lot of oldtimers claim Jack Johnson was the best
fighter in history. Fat Luke Carney, who managed me,
‘worked Pittsburgh Frank Moran's corner when he fought a
Boxound ticle bout with Johnson in Paris, and to Lake's
dying day he claimed he never saw anybody like Johnson.
‘Johnson stood erectly in front of Moran, taunting him:
"Cimon, Frankie, hit that nigger. C'mon, Frankie, hit that
nigger” Te worked fine.
‘When Moran went after him Johnson would catch his
blows on his forearm, then push him gently on the soul
ers and suddenly slash his face with down-and-out wrist
action punches. He would grab Moran by the biceps and
them ia his powerlul hands wntil Moran's arms
ached. Alter the fght Luke had co’put Moran in an epsom
“alts bath for hops. He bad welts all over his body and face.
“never saw 2 face slashed up like Frank's,” Luke told me,
[Neither fighter got a cent for the bout. The promoters
ran off with the money, Like I suid, Boxing's not the sweet-
‘est business in the warld
‘azry Greb, who held the middlewelght and light-ieavy-
‘weight titles, is recognized as the dirtiest fighter there ever
was, which Kind of raskles me.I mean, I'm willing to settle
{for being called the second dirtiest, but Greb’s ranking
means I'm not even the distcst fighter to come, from my
nelghhorhiood in Pitsburgh, Greb came from right up over
the hill, My older brother Jack ells me if you lifted your
Jeg high enough Greb would hit you on the bottom of the
foot. Why, Greb once bit a good-sized chunk right out of
an opponent's shoulder.
‘Lowasn't so bad myself 1 do say so. Else how could 1
Ihave won the welterweight title from a champ like Arm;
strong, who Often purposely missed you with his lefe hook
‘0 he could bring his elbow across your face?
“Today Armstrong is a preacher on the West Coast, Lun-
derstand, but let me tell jou about the Armstrong I boxed
fon October 4, 1940, ia Madison Square Garden,
“The fast round, Armstrong was very busy: they called
Jhim Perpetual Motion and it was 2 good nae for him. I've
seen etter fighters and better punchers but no fighter with
that style, Hardest guy in the world to hold in a clinch
‘He'd put his head against your chest and push you. All the
time he'd be digging his hands and elbows into your body."
Well, like I said, he was very busy in the frst round, He
‘hic-me'low, choked me, butted me, thuinbed me. Arthur
Donovan was the reeree, He dida't warn Armstrong once.
Well, I got a terrible going aver for three or four rounds.
J was thinking about the Cadillac I would buy if 1 won
the tle and T didn’t want to lose any rounds on fouls.
‘Lmean, he was the champion, he was Mike Jacobs' favorite
ey mighe go a le more stietly on me with the rules
than on kim,
‘But finally, after the sith round, I said to myself, Iean’t
go 15 sounds like this. Te was my first LSround fight and
boxing Armstrong was ike boxing three fellows, chats
hhow busy he was. So when the seventh round began. 1
walked out and hic him with a fe hook right in che g
id this a few times and Donovan noticed T was changing
ry style, You might say. He pulled us apart for about ve
seconds and TI never Torget what he ssid: “Boys, if you
want 10 fight like this its okay with me."
Wonderful referee, that Donovan. ‘That was all { wanted
to hear,
1 pulled up my crunks and went to work. L bit him lows
1 said, "Pardon me" 1 butted him; 1 ssid, "Pardon me."
1 must have said "pardon me” five or six times before the
seventh round ended. Along about the ninth or 10th, we
syent into a clinch and Armstrong stid, “The hell with
that ‘pardon me’ stuf, cat out the fouling.”
‘Well, to make a long story short, Y finished serong anddroped han ja a te fal bell rang got the deiion
andthe tite. ‘The iotalvot course come’ peope won't
{ailite moral thee Pa bowed hie neotding to the
Sook 1 wouldnt bane won the de
‘Now Lace alot of ght who relly sick to that book:
They ib, they hook, they Wrow combinations but what
do they Know about the Gucated elbow, the wel placed
chum te forehesd that knows what is good fo My
God tome of thee fighters ty tink lee efor
over! They don't aced Julie Helfand for a commas
Noner. They seed erally Pos
Tvatched gue: try to Gh Rocky Marciano off with
the Marquis Qucedsbury wok ust goes to show how
Simple chy sr ven Queembary yas #Touse, is owe
son walked up to hin the sect in broad dagen
Su took a pula hn, Why, Knead where te guy even
moved his mitts into the’ ste ‘ows his ile wes
Tare in
"You eat become a champion when the champion i
ietng you in 80 places with 30 weapons and youre hing
him 8 thre plaes wi thee weapons, Even toa) Yor
Sate, there have Deen clam champion, But Joe Louis
sean s'ones-amiion punches: Gone Tuan tf by
Keeping in wich good condiion he was ike = humnaa
veil:
For evry Louis and
Trey thee Baye been
coven fellows whe did't
Before go any further I thisk-1 etter explain a few"
‘00d, sound principles of dirty Boxing.
FIRST PRINCIPLE: =
‘Always finish with a punch in"Jair territory.
‘This is che last punch the referee sees. Heimay mist
the first one if you throw it quickly as ia the double left
favored by Denipiey and most of the emart fighters, The
soundness ofthis principle is never beter appreciated thant
when the last punch knocks out-the other fellow.- Even
ifthe referee saw the fst one he can’t very well take a
Knockout away from you :
SECOND PRINCIPLE: /
Know when and how to foul and what each foul is
g00d jor
'A Blow to ithe groin is not really a painful punch be-
cause of the protective cup. It stings. Practically always
‘a punch below the belt is theane fo make the other fellow
Tower his guard, or to faster hizo he lores his head for
a few seconds maybe. In order to deliver a painful low
blow one must bring it up from the foor-up and under
the cup, This s so vicious a punch I did not cate to we
it But Bunny Davis gave it to-me twice in the famous
fight in which he went herserk, a fight [' have more t0
say about later.
Continuing the second principle, a smart fighter néver
pulls his head back after
Bauting."If he does bis op
ponent can step right in
2nd bute him back,
File Zr oh, hl the weld vetvsght tile rom "A “pelt be, any
stele 4 ia tly 24, Seem scr ate nected, AD, belive me, any
‘Salk the gap, Hwee campta trom Hary os. ho ook
‘Armaan, fhe oat tr To instead thes Tiesch Weng me ut hiss back
hhave great natural ability
but made money by lear
ing the wicks. Jake La
Noss vin es ve wiong SN" PMalendl Eabnetiaca in ttie, es Sap bas Tons
Inevonee i deconl Seale auteetieterag's ie ier Suef te
Ba a ee Re Ciamaiani aa dainiety Infant ely tow
he anc ty "So Live tcond bout with Armstrong tele Madison Squre Gardes What & natural L was until
had the kind of punch if SHandane ecord22190"nor Cuthag Chiumen” sae nie, teh years after T started
they swatted a fY Td lay
65 on the fy to get up and
swat back. Bue they became
‘world champions by using
their heads-and I don’t mean just for thinking,
1 don’t know. Maybe you got to have a twisted mind
to respect that kind of fighter. 1f1 have one you ean blame
it, Tike the psychiatrists say, on my childhood.
1 grew up in the Lawrenceville section of Pittsburgh,
4 real cough neighborhood. It was also called ‘The Strip
and the part [ lived in they called Irish ‘Town. I remember
nyy first day of school the kid siting in front of me—this
vas his second year in the fint grade—he secs there's @
new boy behind him, He turns around and says, “What's
your name?"
“Perdinand," 1 sys,
He punches me in the nose and 1 punch him back. The
next day I changed my name to Fritzie,
Being Croatian in Irish Town didn't help any and to
wake matters worse, my brothers Pete and Jack were
fighters, so naturally all the kids were looking to beat
ime up because I was the littlest. So T learned to throw
bricks. Got to be the best brick thrower in Irish Town
Td see those kids coming and I'd stare throwing. T could
throw on the run and hit a kid on the head at 30 yards,
‘There was one kid 1 must have knocked out $8 times. T
Fin into him recently and he said, “You see this sear on
‘my forchead? Those were the days, Frit.” :
‘That's what [ mean. When you fight, you fight. Losing
‘doesn’t help your health, and in boxing it certainly doesn’t
help your bank account. You don't carry over a gradge
With the ogher guy but when you fight, you fight.
Sgheing, In 198i, in my
third ight. with: Johnoy
Bapbaray he” bavi ie
under the fle eye, sn the
exe pained me for several days. T went to te specials
He tured ms over toa amstant for Xeays and when
the-anistane gave rhe pctare to the specaise he looked
sti real fon lite, Then he looked tm then looked
Back atthe pictre inal, he sd to his stan, "Fake
another picture” ;
Well, 1 was scared sti. 1 did't know what was ehe
mater with me. When the doc looked at the second pic
fire he studied fe for ave, Hooked at me, den at the
picture aguin snd finaly tad “Vl take the next one
nye
Tid’ know what to think. 1 wat half crazy
Alter the doc had studied the thitd X-ry forthe longest
time, he Rally placed « hand on my shoulder and ssi,
Son, ve Remy a lot of heads in my tae but youre i
witdout a dotte the thickest T bave eter seen. It is two
and onchalé tines ay thick as any head T have ever
Xray”
Miny’s the tine T buted @ man and expected to see
blood inning dawn over my eyes but my herd neve bed
have scars under my eyes nd on my nove Irom Bighing
be Thaven'e gets mark on my forehend,
Anyhow, og back to the technique of good busting,
1 might add thatthe best place co butta maa i over the
eye. Thats where hel ext eniy It he hasn't got a head
like msine. Juke LaNfot wa a funny kind of butt man
ea be you over the temple te did emu all his butting
tilen he bad you on the ropes. [Continued om page 60fou Gutta Fight Dirty” =
[Continced from gooe 18],
Hed grab you by the arm and yoit tara
Eee and he'd butt you on the temple.
THIRD PRINCIPLE: 4
This i hind of odd advice om dirty
{fighting, bur—hnow the rules. ue
he rules, for example, say che fighiers
are fo touch gloves before the bout and,
ah the start of the final round. Guys whi
Touch gloves in between are going out of
thor way for rouble. I fought Vinsiie
Vines in’48 io Madison Square Garden.
Tn the frst round we got tangled up im a
inch and when he stepped out of te
Ginch he extended his gloves to me. 1
‘Teached out and hic him a right hand om
the chin. Knocked him ot
“hat’s boxing, The winners make the
money, the lorers make the excises
‘Sarac a the gloveiouchers are the
ewusfouled fighters—the fellows who
fan to complain to the referee that they
Mie being fouled and wind up being
‘worse than fouled.
"Take Lew Jenkins, the former Vight-
weight champion. I was boxing Jenkins
In Pitsburgh back in 742: Now Jenkins
bad a bad fait of spreading his feet far
apart about evice as far as the ordinary
Tighter. Something like a batter in base
«Ball, Well, a8 soon 26 T sce him spread
those feet Lanove in and wham!—I step
‘on his toes, but hard, Hie calls me a darn
Yankee and a lot of other filthy names. T
now be has a hot temper to begin with,
to I step on his toes again. ‘This time he”
{uuros bs head to complain to the referes,
Mitich T am expecting and hoping hell
fo, and I reach over and hit him with 9 <
Sit hand on the chin and down goes“
Jenkins. °
‘Same thing in the second round.
step on him, he turns to the referee, T
ibck him down. Well, he gets up holer-
fng’bloody murder, What filthy sames
he calle ine! Anyhow, to make = long
story short, 1 give bin a tereible golog
fer until the referee, Emie Sesto, stops
ft after the ninth roubd, ‘
T loved to fight Jenkins. Not only be-
‘cause of that stance he had but because
dhe had a neck nbout 2 size nine, He
“Tooke like «rooster. When Iwas" step-
Ping on, hii toes I was giving Aim.
choke job.
"After that Pittsburgh fight the next
time T heand from. Jenkins was thrée or
Your years later, He was in service by
then and was passing through Pittsburgh
‘Ny phone rang at in the miqening and
esvon the line yelling, “Get outta bed
You buen! Gome on downtown and Jet's
Fave a drink.” Always calls me when he's
in town now, He tried to Kill me and Be
Knows 1 tried to kill bin, but he always
calls te when be's in town. °
‘Bork Lew and 1 veze ebampions but
‘neither of us have an address on Fay
Street today. People figure a fellow wins
fa tle, he's ot fr fe. Let me tell you, a;
i
i
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4 result of winning the tide 1 automat
tally picked up another manager who got
5 percene of ull my exrnings 2s char
pion, Bidie Mead wat the guy. Mesd was
‘Aromarong’s manager.
"You mtke the deal and give him the
percent so you can get the title shot,
you Figure, okay, i's part of the
game, But amy, what troubles Thad with
{at head. About four days hefore the
tle Sight he called me wp to an office in
the RICA. Building. I went up 10 the
office with dee friends Louie Stoken,
Monk Ketchell and Bobby Quinn. Monk
is bom of the Allegheny County police
force now and Bobby was my wainer.
They waited outside the oft while T
talked to Mead
“You know, you cant win this ght”
Mead says to me, and Tsay, “What do
you main, can't win this ght"
He says, “Well, Armstrong will prob-
ably knock you out and you'll get all
based up and ext up and You won't get
too much money anybo
T ays, "What do you expect me to do?
If T lose the fight He won't be the first
fight I lost, and if Twin it, it won't be
the fist fight T von, Anyoray, think
can Tick itn inspite of what you say
What are you getting a”
Wel, he says he will give me $15,000
in smal bills the day before the Sgt,
just to make sure I don't burt myself in
tying to win. “Nobody will know any
‘ding about fe" Mead says,
‘Well, I don't positively say no and 1
don’t say yes. [realize that if tell hin
ies nothing doing Mead might have
‘Armstrong. get hurt in the gym-jou
know, a fake hand injury or something
that will cake him out of the fight, At
that me the fight didn’t mean 2 whole
Jot. Iwas a 4-1 underdog. They could call
of the fight and let it go a few months
and then let it just disappear altogether.
‘What I did was to keep a fellow named
Jobnny Sehwaree watching Armstrong in
the gymnasium every day, to make sure
hae didn’t get burt and there wouldn't be
any fake. Finally, it comes the day of the
Fight and caming dow from the weighin
Mead comes by and takes me by the coat,
gives me a litle tug and says, “You made
4 mistake, kid. You're gonna get hurt
tonight.”
So the fight came off and Mead had to
be satisfied with 25 percent of me. As
champion, 1 got 60 percent ofall earnings
clear, Mead got 28, and my manager,
[Luke Carney, got 25. All expenses came
‘out of their end, so you can bet I'made
the most of that, T was welterweight
champ but I lived like the welzerweight,
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heavyweight champs put together.
‘Stil, T didn’t care for the idea of pay-
ing Mead 25 percent when I could be
clearing 75, so after | had fought 11 times
fy champion and had paid Mead some
thing like $26,000 F asked him to sell me
his plece
‘Well, we negotiated back and forth iwo
for tice days and finally agreed on
'$10,000. L)had 2 tile defense coming up
in about’ thrce weeks against Freddie
“Red” Cochrane in Newark so 1 made a
stipulation with Mead thae if T lost to
Cochrane the deel would be off. There
wouldn't be any point to it anyway, be-
‘use the original agreement was, that
Mead wobld own part of me only as long
as T was champion.
Now 1 knew that Mead was a heavy
spender; he played the horses and lived
ina plosh apartment on Park Avenue.
‘Already he owed me $8,800 personally. 1
wasn’t going to give bim 10 grand that
hhe could spend before the Cochrane
fight, 20 what {did yas to give him three
postdated checks good after the fight and
Spread maybe two, shee, four days apart.
Teold him to hold them in ease Lost the
fight. As it happened, I lost che tile to
Cochrane. As soon as I got home to Pitts-
Dargh T got 4 call from my bank. Sure
enough, Mead had deposited che checks
{in his Bank as soon as 7 had given them
to him, and his bank had sent chem on
T tald the bank to send. them back
marked “stopped.” :
“Then I called Mead and bawled him
oot. He said he was sorry, be made a
Iniiake, and I believed him, T expected
BtGharily,
“We got a itle bet, Tiger. Mind climbing into this bag?”
ha was the lst T would hear of
Bur three or four weeks later Pit
borg ight promoter, Barney McGinley
Sido me, "iat, heres fellow Ih
ton looking for you. A wrong fellow.
He ap you ove sine money.”
T wold Barney i con't be, but he
ssi the fellow gets i ouch with me
Should pay him he courtesy of wing
‘wi him 1 wed so retain any health
Well, the fellow gave we a all and we
Aue a ate to meet in Toots Goldsteln's
which isa resturant where the PiU
burgh sporing eet hangout, sre of 2
Bis league Tots Shor
To be hones with you I was a Title
scared when I wont fos thi fellow, s0
Took along Monk Ketel theeop and
Joe Becker’ detective, bt rea big el
owe
Ths oon a8 1 saw the fellow come imo
Goldsteins 1 Knew be wa torpedo, He
Sava lied gu, in sot teal naty
Urecer wore apes gray bombung. Very
Tipper. Surya profiad torpedo.
He wast alone. With him was a big
sy who Lhoew to bet member of Sie
Sie Bandana gang, sn cute operating
Bt that tine i Westmoreland County,
‘hid sa short wae or Pitburh
"Al righ ost down with them ina
sooth, and sting down is Kind of un
counorable mt hay, becuse I'm carving
2'he io my belt hough damned it
now how to we lef oer 4 beer and
the worpedo orders glam of iand Z
EK hin what ie dial?
He tells me be represents Pde Meads
cqcdiors: tat Blend showed them the
Sheds I stopped and that if T hadn't
Shed ou the 10 grand Mead cola py
them of, Them, I supposed, were book.
makers
“O make a long story short, T explain
the Mead business to the fellow, and he
says, “Well, that throws 2 different light
‘nit. Iwill gt in touch with my employ-
fers, Meet me here tomorrow, same time.”
“The next day the fellow told me every
thing was okay, and that’s the last T saw
or heard of him, Mead died of a heart at
tack not long after. I wasn't sore at him,
found out he was desperate. T never did
get the 53,800 he owed me. *
But you know, you can't take one thing
from hoxing_i's one of the most colorful
+ sports there is. And why? Maybe because
its a dumping ground for all kinds of
characters. { look back on the years and
{individuals come to mind: Ray Arcel, 2
man who conned me into losing a fight
bat a trainer whose “good press” makes
hhim out a’ fist clas genileman sur
rounded by thieves. Fat Gene Dargan, &
twedear salesman who would ‘rather
make $30 2 week working with fighters
titan $800 a week selling cars. A referee
jn Omaha who vated against one of my
fighters because the kid floored him with
aright when the ref stuck his nose in to
break a clinch, AI Weill, Rocky Marci
no's manager; Jimmy Cannon wrot
‘Weill ever get fo heaven he'll pluck the
feathers from the angels’ wings and sell
tiem for mattress sein. Dressing room
bribers, Farmer promoters. What a col-
lection
‘Tm no bargain ether, in cave you get
the idea think Tam. I carried a few
fighters. FM never forget, funniest ox
perience £ ever had~back in '46, 1 had
Fetired from boxing for the umpteenth
ie and Ihadn't been in the gym for I
gues two months. Iwas sinoking a few
Cigarettes, drinking a few beers. Wasn't
jn as good condition: as T might have
been.
‘Well, one day I van into Gene Dangan,
the used-car salewan, and he ssid,
“Fritze, 1 got a fight for you, $1,500
guarantee, Want to box a fighter named
‘Russel Wilhice in. Memphis?
Tstid to Gene, “With name like Rus
scl Wilbite, TIL take the fight.”
“You in shape?” he asked me.
T auld, “I don't have to be in’shape.
‘Any fighter with a name Iike that cannot
gti.”
Fiat thing, I went and bought a pair
of gloves, they were called Sammy Frager
gloves, Made by a former fighter named
Sammy Frager out of Chicago. Wonder:
ful gloves, They weighed only five ounces
and there snust have been three ounces
in the wrists, I said to Gene,-“T'l take
these gloves to Memphis. In’ the shape
Tim in, T can’t go very many rounds but
FET caf get avay with wearing these little
gloves I got 4 good chance to knock this
kid ont.
So finally we got to Memphis where we
read this Resel Wilhite has had 17 fights
up to this time=I6 knockouts and one
win, 1 met the kid at the weighin.
Fine looking boy, 18 yems old, af highur
ih
school kid, real good looking. Looked
more like 2 choir boy than a fighter.”
“Then I looked up the promoter,
typical farmer promoter, you might say.
Hadn't been arourid the geme very Jong
{said to him, “Please do ine 2 favor,
‘please use these gloves tonight
le looked at the gloves and said, “Soo,
hose are wonderful gloves. How much
do owe you?”
“Not five cents.” F said. “These gloves
“The night of the fight was really ome
thing No deputy in the dressing room,
tno nothing, You didn't even have to wait
{UN you got in the ting to put on your
gloves 1 taped my hands. T put some
‘White tape on, put some black tape over
the white tapé, and put some white tape.
ver the black tape- Got my bands loaded
pretty good. ‘Then 1 put on my Sammy
Frager gloves,
"About a half hour. before the fight «
fellow came in and called Gene.outsde,
TPhey talked outside about five minutes
and Gene came in and said, “Fritzc, chat
fellow wants to know if youl accept $500
to let this kid go ten rounds.
said, “Why, certainly,” because T
didn’t know i€T could hold him off for
ten rounds, anyway.
So this guy gave Gene five $100 bills
‘Well, the Aight starts and T.go out for
‘he ffst round just testing myself. T guess
ies like « ball player or-anybody who's
been in a business for years and then
comes back after 2 Tayoft—your natural
feeling is very good for the firs couple
fof minutes when you start in again. Tm
feeling pretty limber so I go in and hit
the 1d with a left hook and he starts to
igo down, T remember the $500 so I grab
the kid and hold him up and dance
‘around with him until he comes 10.
“Then hit him on the shoulder and
‘on the chest and I'miss him purpose
{ro.or three timés. Finaly, the round is
over and 1 go back to my comer and say
to Gene, “What ama 1 going to do? This
Kd can't fight”
‘well Gene says, "just tke your
‘So 1 go out for the second round. 1
{don't hit him much and he don't hit me,
This goes on for 2 couple rounds and
the crowd is raising the devi. Te-was a
real stinker. Igo back to my corner after
the third round and T say to Gene, “T
better get tid of this kid.” But Gene
pulls ott five bills from his pocket and
Rijs maybe I better not T kaagh and go
fout for the fourth.
‘Bue then the referee growls at me,
“Come on, Zivic, you better fight oF
you're not gonna get paid.” Well, I was
[eting $1,500 for the fight and $1,500 is
orth more than $800 so I go back after
the round and tell Gene what the referee
faid. Then in the fifth T go out and feint
the kid and hi him with 2 lefe hook on
the chin that Knocks him cold. When the
referee holds up my band, ob, does the
Grove boo! Te was terrible
‘Gene and I hustled back to the dress
ing room and locked the door. S26 ax
eid we beard a Boom! Boor Boot
tr the door Gene hollered, "Comings
er the door” and he sipped the fre
Wits eden
“That Gene Darga, he sor oftoak over
ss my manager afer fell out with Luke
Carney and man, he got me Into more
Siunloa! Fe once booked se for three
SStounden in one, week — Monday,
Wednesday and Fray.
aia ed him, "Whacre we doing on
* “Tuesday and Thursday?”
T fought three-good boys, Ralph Za
nell in Providence, Pete Mead in Grand
Rapids and Bobby Britton in Memphis.
Got §1,500, $2,000 and $1,500. AM three
bouts went the distance. Lost che ist two
but beat Britton
‘Nat Fieischer’s record book ‘says 1
fought Zanelli, Mead and Britton four
Gays apart, but even Nat makes errors,
Maybe he iad trouble keeping track of
me because I was such an active fighter
Why, I femember die time in '39 my
brother Eddie had a date to fght = fellow
named Charlie Bell in Columbus, Obio,
but had a bad ear and couldn't make it,
0 Lsaid, "We look slike, Eddie, I'l 6ght
for you,
went down to Columbus but the
matchmaker recognized me. He said, “It
{ell you what Il dg, Tl explain to Bell's
‘manager what bappenedl to Eddie and if
fhe wants to fight you, is all xighe with
‘Well, to make a long story short, the
manager stid, “Okag, well fight you, on
fone condition—that you don't. knock
Chaalie out for two tounds. After two
rounds, every man for himself.”
‘We go out for the first round and
lip Cltarlie Bell on the jaw and he starts
to sag: 1 grab him and hold him up and
ddo a ballet dance for maybe 15, 20 sec-
fonds with him. When he comes around, Y
grab him, choke him around the neck,
fpin him around, and give him a presty
food going over. But I keep my word
Bnd don't knock him down.
"T kept Bell alive in the second sound
but when we come out for the third 1
extend any glover to him, violating my
wn tule about touching gloves in the
idle of a Sgt. He says, “This isn't the
Tost round.
‘Laays, “lt is for you, Chae," and
reach over and hit hia on the chin and
Knock him deader than 2 doornail
1 got $2240 for the Sight.
ASfew sionths later I went back wo
Columbus and boxed a fellow mame of
‘Al Costello, another bout Nat Fleischer
‘missed, andl knocked him out in a couple
fof rounds, Got a little more money this
Sime. Got $39.
T never boxed in Golumbus again.
Ics ike Leo Durocher said"Nice guys
finish last!” L-was @ nice guy for & night
myself and finished last. Ray Arcel, the
‘ninent trainer, conned me right into it.
Tm boxing this fellow Norman Rubio
in Newark in "42 and before the fight
‘Axcel, who fs handling Rubio, comes 10
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only BEsee me. "Don't bust this kid up, Frit,
he's a nice kid with a family,
1 said nuts to that, but by the time J
got into the ring Tu thinking about his
Wwife and Kids so 1 kind of take it easy
‘with him at first. He's a litle guy, with
‘more hair on bis chest than { had on my
head. He's doing pretty good and by the
time I wake up to the fact that he has
piled up a big lead on me, I can't get
started. Tn ina rut, He must have won
nine of the ten rounds
‘That's what you get, being a nice guy.
Well, the rematelh was made for Pitt
burgh a few weeks later. I cold Arcel be
fore the fight, "I'm going to bust your
Kid's head open, bite his ear of cut his
eyes, everything.” [run out for the first
round like a manize~and the next thing
know the referee is counting over me
[get up and manage to stay out of
Rubio's way for the rest of he round.
in the second round I go to work.
ith may left, hook him spin
3. Then T realy get warmed,
up. By the ninth Rubio is cut over both
‘ejesand bleeding. The referee stopped it.
‘So T wasn't «tice guy. 1 won,
Tl ell you another sweet fellow 1 got
all Kinds of love for. A Weill, Marciano's
‘manager’ Onée'T foughe in Washington,
D. G, for a matchmaker named Goldie
Ahern. Thad 2, $1,500_guarantee but the
‘rowed was postaind Goldie asked me to
settle for $760. Rigured, well, I might be
promoter Sorne day so I may as well be
comsietate! I take the $750. This was a
favor to Weill because ic wat a known
fact that Ke was bankrolling the show.
Years later I bought am outdoor arena,
Zivic Arena, with, some money ray. wite
we
Helen had held out of my pockets for =
rainy day and I had a green kid making
tmatches for me. He booked Arturo Go-
doy, the Argentine heavy managed by
Weill, and guarasteed him $3,500 or 30
percent of the gate. This wae fantetic.
‘We could seat only 7,500. When T heard
about it I knew we would lose money on
the show s0 I ealled Weill and asked him
to cut the guarantee to $1,000.
“Your matchmaker made ehe deal,” bi
said."A deaY's a deal.”
reminded him of a night in Washing.
om when I took half my guarancee to
help him out, bue the lease he would go
down to was $2,500 and we lose money.
Again T was reminded: Be a nice fellow
in boxing and you get it in the neck,
[But of all the nasty things, and ae the
same time the funniest ching, L saw i
the fight game, a referce in Omaha took
the cake. was boing a main event there
and I had one of the fighters 1 mansged
in a sixround preliminary. Hé was a
Title kid named’ Mickey Quack, » shoe-
shine fighter—he'd stand in the middle
‘of the ring with his head down and-bath
arms Mailing back and forth like a kid
shining shoes. ‘The ref was one of those
sguys;when he tells the fighters to break
he hat to stick his head between them.
‘Well, Mickey and his opponent are
standing head to head, throwing punches
blindly, and sure enough, the rel sticks
hi head in onee too often and Mickey
nails him with a ight hook. Down goes
the ref, on one knee, Right away the
crowd starts counting. ‘The ref is kneel:
ing there, shaking it off. Finally, at the
count of teven he get up.
"To malke a long story short, Mickey
ak
shew
“The champ's changed his defensive tactics to handle
‘those bullike rushes of the challenger.”
taker five of'the six rounds but the ref,
‘who i the only oficial, gives the decision
to the other fighter. Couldn’e take
Knockdown.
T'm out of bositig now. But I love the
>usiness and when f hear Pennsylvania's
Governor Leader and New York Com
‘missioner Helfand and the National Rox
ing Association swearing they're out to
clean up the game f hope they mean out:
side the ring only. Inside, the dirty ight.
fers are the feat fighters. Willie Pep, old
fa he i, Would still be featherweight
champ if another alley ghter like Sandy
Saddler hadn't come slong.
ep was whipping him going away
en Sandy applied a double arm lock
hat dislocated Willie's shoulder and
rade him quit in his corner, giving the
title avay. In their return match they
heeled, thumbed, butted, elbowed, wree
tled, and took Referee Ray Miller to the
floot with them. The sports writers said it
was outrageous. Saddler remarked!
“L got a litle mad when he heeled me
“and thnambed me in the eye and stepped
fon my toes, but afterall he was trying to
‘win and ies all in the game.”
Us dirty fighters don’t make any bones
about being dirty fighters. Ie's like Fold
General Phelan, the New York Commis:
sioner, when he was conducting a hearing
the day after my fight with Buromy Davis
Jn the first round Davis had looked at
the dock to see how much time there was"
and T clipped him, knocked him down
He blew is stack and the next round
came out and hit me low about 16 times
Sil they stopped the fight and disqual
fed him At the hearing Davis tld Gen:
‘ral Phelan Ithombed him. "Ziv," sid
fhe general, “shat do you have to 37"
“General” T said, “t'm going 10 be
very rank wih you: 1 doy et
‘hurabed bien for he sraple veason
1 didn't haye to. 1 Knocked him down in
the fist round snd i was a e85y Baht
Bue FE be" boners about =if Davis
‘would have given me a beating I would
Have thumbed him. I would have hit his.
low. 1 would have taken every advantage
Teoukd Tgrew up in a tough neighbor.
hood and was taught to Gghe one way
"Davis" sald the general "We fe Yoo
42,500 and suspend. you indefinitely in
Now York State."
ICL had been a heavyweight cerainly
would have liked to ery out my philoso
hy of fighting on Marciano, 2 fiiser
teh came at you wih fists arm, elbows,
head, everything. But he was a wi ma
inthe ring-T mean he was temper diy.
not eute diy, noe slentife dirty. Fiat
thee woul an ste and ith
{hae wild wight of his would get hic by
the abow a spin him sound Then
twould ive hima little coke job, chop
‘im in the groin, aad ey a lite bute om
that tender note he hat
He'd blow bie stack. From there oi
ed have it made
“boxing a good, dirty man is hard co
peat: Usually it takes a beiter and dirtier
‘man to-do i