Simple minded Zubair Ali: Zai made an objection on Ima:m Ibn Taimiah RH: that

He called Saiyiduna: Ibn Umar ED: as Bidati: [Heretic].

Zubair Ali Zai was immediately informed that he misunderstood the Text of Imam
Ibn Taimiah RD:.
The proper explanation of Text of Imam Ibn Taimiah RD: was presented to Zubair
Ali Zai.
Initially Zubair ALI: Zai refused to accepted any explanation or interpretarion of the
Text of Ima:m ibn TaimiahRH:. But in several oral discussions Zubair was defeated
and he was unable to reply. So Zubair began to make excuses.
He said that if such explanations and interpretations of Text of Ima:m Ibn Taimiah
RD: be accepted then Explanations of TEXTS of Shah Isma:i:l and a number of
[Ahlussunnah] Deoband Scholars must also be accepted. He was informed that
inspite of legal debates and disputes etc. Ahlul H:Adi:th: do accepted the
explanations of Ahlussunnah Deoband Scholars like Maulana: Ashraf Ali: TTha:nvi,
Maula:na: Qa:sim Na:natavi etc. In the case of Shah Isma:il Shahi:d ALL THE Ahlul
H:adi:th: defend him throughout the Indian Subcontinent.
This annoyed Takfiri: minded Zubair Ali: and he declared Sha:h Isma:i:l Shahi:d as
Kafir on several issues.
His main objections were := 1] Sha:h Isma:il believed in a form of Va:tatul Vuju:d
as Evident from his book ABQA:T. 2] He believed that ALL-H Hath Omnipotence our
Falsehood [Kidh:b]. On the contrary Zubair believed that ALL-H Hath no
Omnipotence over Falsehood .
From Imam Ibn Taimiah to Maula:na: Ashraf Ali Thanvi , Zubair Ali Zai declared
each one as a Non Muslim.
This caused a great problem and due to immense pressure he remained silent on
the issue of Takfi:r of Ima:m Ibn Taimiah, Sha:h Valiyullah, Sha:h Isma:i:l Shahi:d
RH: . How ever he did not remain silent over ulma: of Ahlussunnah Deoband. But
he knew that if he declared them as Kafir, a large majority of Ahlul H:adi:th: shall
not accept his declaration.
Zubair Ali: Zai was quick silver in declaring any one as Ka:fir who disputed from him
or from whom he disputed, even on the issue of interpretations of Ah:adi:th: .
How ever in case of ima:m Ibn Taimiah RH: he was finally silenced and purported
that he has accepted the Explanations but not in the case of Sha:h Isma:i:l Shahi:d
RH: .
Seven months latter Zubair Ali Zai promised that he would remain silence on the
Alleged Objectionable Texts of Ima:m Ibn Taimiah RH: . It appears that Zubair Ali:

Zai some how injected his objections in the mind of Ali: Mirza: Of Jhelum who has
no regard for Ima:m ibn Taimiah RD: etc. but but have tremendous sympathies for
Rava:fid: [Astaghfarullah].
This same objection is repeated by the Engineer of Jhelum namely Ali Mirza: .
So it is necessary to respond the objections of Zubair Ali Zai and the same is true
against the Objections of Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum.
The Arabic word B-D-- means to make some thing with out any example.
ALL-H is called Badi: since He made heavens and earths with out any examples
just by His Omniscience.
As a Religious Term it means Heresy and Apostate.
Ibn Taimiah RH: did not declared Saiyiduna: Ibn Umar RD: AS Bidati, or an an
agent of Bidah in the meaning of Heresy but in the LITERAL MEANING. The literal
meaning. Ibn Umar RD: made an Ijtiha:d which was not found in the times of
Saiyiduna Abu Bakr etc.
So in the literal meaning it is an Innovation since it was nor found previously in the
Isla:mic World.
How ever it is a Sunni Axiom that no ijtiha:d of any S:ah:bi: RD: can be termed as
Heresy [Bidati/ Mubtadi IN THE TERMONOLOGICAL MEANING], yet the word can be
used in the literal meaning.]

An other example is that Saiyiduna: Umar RD: usred the

word B-DA-H for the Jama:ah of Tra:vi:h: .
So this is an example that the word Bidah is sometime used in the Literal
Meaning [A thing not found before /Innovation ]and not in the
Terminological Meaning [Heresy/Unorhtodoxy,Heterodoxy].
When this answer was presented to Simple and Takfi:ri: minded Zubair Ali :Zai HE
RESPONDED AS FOLLOW:=
I accept this in principle , but my [New] objection is that why Ima:m ibn Taimiah
RD: used this word , why he did notchose any other word frokm Arabic Language
for the intended meaning. He was responded that it is beyond the scope of the
domain of any discussion about any author who so ever he may be ,why he did
chose a particular word, the issue is that what is the literal meaning OR THE
INTENDED meaning of the chosen word.
Ima:m Ibn Taimiah RD: could possible alternatives and Ima:m could chose any one
of them [from Arabic Language] ,yet the question is not that what Ima :m COULD

do , the question is What Imam Did do, and what is the correct explanation of his
word used in the sentence.
This answer silenced Zubair Ali: Zai once for all. Zubair Ali Zai was hyper Sensitive
with the fear that he might be expelled from the domain of Ahlul H:adi:th:. He was
always afraid of Muh:aqqiq irsha:d Al H:aqq Athari, that he may refute his views
and it is quite obvious that Muh:aqqiq Irsha:d Al Haqq is the one of the scholars of
Highest Eminent in the
Isla:mic World ,But Ali: Miza has no respect of any one.
He continues to accuse Great Scholars of Sunnism in particular Ima:m ibn Taimiah
RD:.
But Ali Mirza is silent as churchs mice against the enemies of S:ah:abah RD:, WHO
BELIEVE that S:ah:bah RD: like Abu Bakr, Umar. Uth:ma:n Radiyallahu Anhu,
A:ishah Rd:iyallahu Anha:, as Muslim Bila: Ima:n [Astaghfarullah]., and it is likely
that he is not going to break the ice.
An other answer which may be included in this article is that to claim an act as Innovation is one thing
and to declare the Agent of the act as Heretic is an other thing.
Similarly the difference between Innovator and Heretic are two different things.
Ima:m Ibn Taimiah RD: only meant that This Ijtiha:d OF Ibn Umar RD: was not found prior to his act of
Ijtiha:d. But it is not an heresy even if it may not be preferred. Since This Ijtiha:d was not found in the
times of Noble Caliphate.

Multi-Standard Of Engineer Ali Mirza

Maulana Maudu;di: DECLARED some act of Saiyiduna: Mu:aviah RD:as Bidah
[Astaghfarullah] :not in the Literal Meaning but in the Religious Meaning . But Ali:
Mirza remained silenced as if he has not read it. [Khi:lafat Va M-lu:kiat BY M A.A
Maudu:di:]
This implies that Ali: Mirza: has enmity of Ima:m ibn Taimiah because he defended
Saiyiduna: Mu:aviah RD:
This is a Multi-Standard of Ali Mirza:.