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hi can any body give me detail How to earthquake design of rcc building structure in STAAD PRO 7

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RE: earthquake design in STAAD PRO

dins12 Wrote: (01-21-2010 12:47 PM)

hi can any body give me detail How to earthquake design of rcc building structure in STAAD PRO 7
Hy
Provide all beam and column junctions as hinged and create a load case [i.e. DL+50%LL or 25%LL as per Code]
Then run analysis and view the result w.r.t the already created load case.Go to reaction tab and copy the reactions to the excel
sheet
Delete the all the unwanted columns [ Fx, Fz, Mx, My…]
Let nodes, loadcase and Fy column retained
Replace the loadcase column fully by Joint weight
Copy and paste it in the staad editor
Done…

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RE: earthquake design in STAAD PRO

The images below shows the actual way the model will look when running the joint weight.
The second image is showing the model only.
So as engr1900 said, you have to run the joint weight with live load as some ratio as per your design and the code.
You can see that the third image explains that. The 3rd load case is the live load.
The 4th image is the syntax for to use for the earthquake as per India code.
Afte all these the combination that is to be used for analysis of the earthquake is listed below.

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LOAD 1 SEISMIC ALONG X DIRECTION

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1893 LOAD X 1
LOAD 2 SEISMIC ALONG -X DIRECTION
1893 LOAD X -1
LOAD 3 SEISMIC ALONG Z DIRECTION
1893 LOAD Z 1
LOAD 4 SEISMIC ALONG -Z DIRECTION
1893 LOAD Z -1
LOAD 5 SELF WEIGHT
SELFWEIGHT Y -1
load case 6 is dead load
load case 7 is earth pressure and surcharge load
load case 8 is live load
LOAD COMB 9 WORKING LOAD (DL+LL)
5 1.0 6 1.0 8 1.0
LOAD COMB 10 FACTORED LOAD (DL+LL)
5 1.5 6 1.5 8 1.5
LOAD COMB 11 WORKING LOAD (DL+LL+EP)
5 1.0 6 1.0 7 1.0 8 1.0
LOAD COMB 12 FACTORED LOAD (DL+LL+EP)
5 1.5 6 1.5 7 1.5 8 1.5
**********SEISMIC WITH (DL+LL+EP)************
********* ALONG +X DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 13 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.2 EQ + 1.2 D.L +1.2 E.P+ 1.2 L.L)
1 1.2 5 1.2 6 1.2 7 1.2 8 1.2
LOAD COMB 14 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 1.5 D.L+1.5 E.P)
1 1.5 5 1.5 6 1.5 7 1.5
LOAD COMB 15 COMB3 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 0.9 D.L+0.9 E.P)
1 1.5 5 0.9 6 0.9 7 0.9
********* ALONG -X DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 16 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.2 EQ + 1.2 D.L +1.2 E.P+ 1.2 L.L)
2 1.2 5 1.2 6 1.2 7 1.2 8 1.2
LOAD COMB 17 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 1.5 D.L+1.5 E.P)
2 1.5 5 1.5 6 1.5 7 1.5
LOAD COMB 18 COMB3 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 0.9 D.L+0.9 E.P)
2 1.5 5 0.9 6 0.9 7 0.9
********* ALONG +Z DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 19 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.2 EQ + 1.2 D.L + 1.2 E.P+1.2 L.L)
3 1.2 5 1.2 6 1.2 7 1.2 8 1.2
LOAD COMB 20 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 1.5 D.L+ 1.5 E.P)
3 1.5 5 1.5 6 1.5 7 1.5
LOAD COMB 21 COMB3 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 0.9 D.L+ 0.9 E.P)
3 1.5 5 0.9 6 0.9 7 0.9
********* ALONG -Z DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 22 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.2 EQ + 1.2 D.L + 1.2 E.P + 1.2 L.L)
4 1.2 5 1.2 6 1.2 7 1.2 8 1.2
LOAD COMB 23 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 1.5 D.L +1.5 E.P)
4 1.5 5 1.5 6 1.5 7 1.5
LOAD COMB 24 COMB3 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 0.9 D.L+0.9 E.P)
4 1.5 5 0.9 6 0.9 7 0.9
****** STOREY DRIFT LIMITATION ********
********* ALONG +X DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 25 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L + 1.0 E.P + 1.0 L.L)
1 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0 7 1.0 8 1.0
LOAD COMB 26 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L+1.0 E.P)
1 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0 7 1.0
********* ALONG -X DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 27 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L +1.0 E.P+ 1.0 L.L)
2 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0 7 1.0 8 1.0
LOAD COMB 28 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L+1.0 E.P)
2 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0 7 1.0
********* ALONG +Z DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 29 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L + 1.0 E.P +1.0 L.L)
3 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0 7 1.0 8 1.0
LOAD COMB 30 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L+1.0 E.P)
3 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0 7 1.0
********* ALONG -Z DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 31 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L + 1.0 E.P + 1.0 L.L)
4 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0 7 1.0 8 1.0
LOAD COMB 32 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L+1.0 E.P)
4 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0 7 1.0
**********SEISMIC WITH (DL+LL) ONLY **********
********* ALONG +X DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 33 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.2 EQ + 1.2 D.L + 1.2 L.L)
1 1.2 5 1.2 6 1.2 8 1.2
LOAD COMB 34 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 1.5 D.L)
1 1.5 5 1.5 6 1.5

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LOAD COMB 35 COMB3 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 0.9 D.L)

1 1.5 5 0.9 6 0.9
********* ALONG -X DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 36 SEISMIC (1.2 EQ + 1.2 D.L + 1.2 L.L)
2 1.2 5 1.2 6 1.2 8 1.2
LOAD COMB 37 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 1.5 D.L)
2 1.5 5 1.5 6 1.5
LOAD COMB 38 COMB3 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 0.9 D.L)
2 1.5 5 0.9 6 0.9
********* ALONG +Z DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 39 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.2 EQ + 1.2 D.L + 1.2 L.L)
3 1.2 5 1.2 6 1.2 8 1.2
LOAD COMB 40 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 1.5 D.L)
3 1.5 5 1.5 6 1.5
LOAD COMB 41 COMB3 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 0.9 D.L)
3 1.5 5 0.9 6 0.9
********* ALONG -Z DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 42 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.2 EQ + 1.2 D.L + 1.2 L.L)
4 1.2 5 1.2 6 1.2 8 1.2
LOAD COMB 43 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 1.5 D.L)
4 1.5 5 1.5 6 1.5
LOAD COMB 44 COMB3 SEISMIC (1.5 EQ + 0.9 D.L)
4 1.5 5 0.9 6 0.9
****** STOREY DRIFT LIMITATION ********
********* ALONG +X DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 45 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L + 1.0 L.L)
1 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0 8 1.0
LOAD COMB 46 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L)
1 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0
********* ALONG -X DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 47 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L + 1.0 L.L)
2 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0 8 1.0
LOAD COMB 48 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L)
2 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0
********* ALONG +Z DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 49 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L + 1.0 L.L)
3 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0 8 1.0
LOAD COMB 50 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L)
3 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0
********* ALONG -Z DIRECTION **********
LOAD COMB 51 COMB1 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L + 1.0 L.L)
4 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0 8 1.0
LOAD COMB 52 COMB2 SEISMIC (1.0 EQ + 1.0 D.L)
4 1.0 5 1.0 6 1.0
PERFORM ANALYSIS

Let me know if you anything else.

Regards,
Vinu...

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RE: earthquake design in STAAD PRO

This procedure is very useful in the older version of Staad due to the fact that in the OLDER version, load list in load cases differ
from the load list in load definition.

In the latter version of Staad, you can just copy paste the loads from the load cases to the seismic definition and let Staad do the
entire process of analysing weights but of course there is a need to carefully change some load name, e.g. instead of floor load
that will be floor weights etc. It's much easier.

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RE: earthquake design in STAAD PRO

verongskey Wrote: (01-24-2010 11:36 AM)

This procedure is very useful in the older version of Staad due to the fact that in the OLDER version, load list in load cases differ
from the load list in load definition.

In the latter version of Staad, you can just copy paste the loads from the load cases to the seismic definition and let Staad do
the entire process of analysing weights but of course there is a need to carefully change some load name, e.g. instead of floor
load that will be floor weights etc. It's much easier.
Hy
Can you upload any sample file of the same done in staadpro
so that we can be able to understand
byee

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It seems very very tedious process why would you do that? Staadpro can do much more easier than that. What's the significance
of the joint load anyway if you can extract the load automatically from pressure load, member load etc.

I don't see the logic of doing the joint load applied to the nodes and also having those nodes as hinge support.

my two cents.

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ASEC Wrote: (02-04-2010 06:32 AM)

It seems very very tedious process why would you do that? Staadpro can do much more easier than that. What's the significance
of the joint load anyway if you can extract the load automatically from pressure load, member load etc.

I don't see the logic of doing the joint load applied to the nodes and also having those nodes as hinge support.

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my two cents.

They are doing the procedure above to precisely estimate the weights from the Load Cases, because before the loading option in
Earthquake Definition in older version of Staad is very limited there were only selft weights, member weights & joint weight as far
as I can remember.

At present time, I agree that the above procedure is not only tedious but also outdated. The above procedure is no longer
necessary.

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RE: earthquake design in STAAD PRO

verongskey Wrote: (02-04-2010 12:28 PM)

ASEC Wrote: (02-04-2010 06:32 AM)

It seems very very tedious process why would you do that? Staadpro can do much more easier than that. What's the
significance of the joint load anyway if you can extract the load automatically from pressure load, member load etc.

I don't see the logic of doing the joint load applied to the nodes and also having those nodes as hinge support.

my two cents.

They are doing the procedure above to precisely estimate the weights from the Load Cases, because before the loading option
in Earthquake Definition in older version of Staad is very limited there were only selft weights, member weights & joint weight
as far as I can remember.

At present time, I agree that the above procedure is not only tedious but also outdated. The above procedure is no longer
necessary.

In India most of the places its followed as mentioned but can you please elaborate please. I also love to know this procedure.
Help the fellow engineers can you please give example of applying wind and earthquake

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It seems to me that they are working backward, define the load cases first and extract from there what is supposed to be the
dead load of the structure to be used for the seismic definition.

You have to do it the other way around define first the seismic weight and if you want you can then copy paste the seismic
weight to be your load cases for much easier process but changing the syntax from weight to load and also adding load direction.

even with the old version of staad it still the same process then and now.

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ASEC Wrote: (02-05-2010 02:08 AM)

It seems to me that they are working backward, define the load cases first and extract from there what is supposed to be the
dead load of the structure to be used for the seismic definition.

You have to do it the other way around define first the seismic weight and if you want you can then copy paste the seismic
weight to be your load cases for much easier process but changing the syntax from weight to load and also adding load
direction.

even with the old version of staad it still the same process then and now.

In Seismic Definition especially in UBC 1997, the visual representation of assigning load is relatively less. It will only highlight the
member where the load is assigned. You will not see how the load looks like.

In Load Case Details, the member, plates, etc. will be highlighted and the shape of the load will be shown graphically.

So, it is easier to assign loads in Load Cases Details and then just copy paste it to Seismic Definition with minor editing of course
of the load title in the STAAD Editor.

In Staad whether you are working forward or backward, it doen't matter for as long as you know how to properly edit them in
Staad Editor.

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