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e-man 04-24-2008, 02:16 PM

a s cc ti liu k thut u ni n vn nng cao h s cng sut bng phng php b cng sut phn khng. Cch b ny thng l mc song song t b vi thit b cn b (b ngang), gm 3 kiu: - B tp trung - B nhm (b trn mi nhm thit b) - B ring l (b trn tng thit b cn tiu th cng sut phn khng) Vy nh th no gi l b dc? Cch mc nh th no? S ging nhau v khc nhau gia b dc vi b ngang? So snh u khuyt im gia b dc v b ngang? Xin cc s huynh ch gio.

pvps th no l b dc? l cch b mc ni tip t in (b t in) vi ng dy ko th so snh u im ca b dc v b ngang c v n c mc ch khc nhau.

04-24-2008, 04:54 PM

f2high

04-24-2008, 10:36 PM

b dc cng c 2 loi 1 b bng t in, ci ny thng dng cho ng dy c X ln, do b bng t vo gim tng tr ng dy --> gim tn tht in p 2 b dc bng khng in, thng thc hin vi cc ng dy siu cao p. cc ng dy ny c chiu di ln, do t k sinh cng ln, v vy trong ch lm vic Min th in p cui ng dy cao vt mc cho php, lm h hi gim tui th ca cc cch in, do ngi ta tin hnh b dc bng khng in. VD ng dy 500 KV thng c b dc kiu ny

f2high b ngang bng t in thng ch l dng cho b kinh t v b k thut nng cao h s cng sut cos phi lm gim dng cng sut phn khng truyn ti trn ng dy mc ch chnh l gim tn tht in nng.

04-24-2008, 10:38 PM

e-man

04-25-2008, 02:30 PM

Nh vy, ni theo anh f2high th b dc c th l b bng t in hoc cun cm ty theo tnh cht ca ng dy, c phi ko ? - B bng t in khi ng dy c cm khng (XL) ln. - B bng cun cm khi ng dy c dung khng (XC) ln. Nhng thit b b ny thng ch mc ni tip trn ng dy nhm gim tng tr dy, vi mc ch lm gim st p trn ng dy. Nh vy th b dc ko c ph bin bng b ngang, mc ch s dng cng ko nhiu bng b ngang. Vy cho em hi: ngoi vic b dc cho ng dy, c khi no b dc c thc hin cho thit b (ph ti) hay ko? Nu c th b vi mc ch g, li ch ra sao?

capkinhtron84

04-25-2008, 06:40 PM

Nh vy, ni theo anh f2high th b dc c th l b bng t in hoc cun cm ty theo tnh cht ca ng dy, c phi ko ? - B bng t in khi ng dy c cm khng (XL) ln. - B bng cun cm khi ng dy c dung khng (XC) ln. Nhng thit b b ny thng ch mc ni tip trn ng dy nhm gim tng tr dy, vi mc ch lm gim st p trn ng dy.

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Nh vy th b dc ko c ph bin bng b ngang, mc ch s dng cng ko nhiu bng b ngang. Vy cho em hi: ngoi vic b dc cho ng dy, c khi no b dc c thc hin cho thit b (ph ti) hay ko? Nu c th b vi mc ch g, li ch ra sao? y ko phi nh bn ngh vy u. Mnh ni qua v 1 s loi b: +) B dc bng t in (mc t in ni tip vi ng dy) mc ch gim in khng ca ng dy, nng cao kh ngn ti ca ng dy, gim tn tht in nng...:018: +) B ngang bng t in (mc t in song song vi ph ti c th mc gn ph ti hoc mc thanh ci h p) mc ch gim tn tht in nng. Nng cao h s cng sut cos phi. +) B ngang bng khng in (mc khng in song song vi ph ti) dng cho ng dy in p cao khi ti thp. in khng ny s tiu th bt cng sut do in dung sinh ra trnh in p tng qu cao cui ng dy khi ph ti thp. Hy vng gii p c phn no:handshake:

f2high

04-25-2008, 10:25 PM

ngoi ra b dc bng t cn c mc ch thay i tng tr ca cc ng dy truyn ti t phn b hp l ti u lng cng sut truyn trn cc ng dy, thng l trong trng hp c mch vng.

ngay7thang2

04-28-2008, 04:39 AM

D sao li th h? Hnh nh trn anh ch c nhc n b dc = khng in nhng di li l b ngang??Hi vng sm nhn c gii thch ca a ch!!

hungk

04-28-2008, 11:34 PM

anh f2high nhm t m. chnh xc l cun khng b ngang, trn dz di cp siu cao p (dz 500) khng th khng c h thng khng b ngang. Mnh tham gia t cho zui thi, bn mn hiu thm th tm sch t nghin cu l chc n nht.

omon

04-29-2008, 11:45 PM

anh f2high nhm t m. chnh xc l cun khng b ngang, trn dz di cp siu cao p (dz 500) khng th khng c h thng khng b ngang. Mnh tham gia t cho zui thi, bn mn hiu thm th tm sch t nghin cu l chc n nht. Cho cc bc v bc hungk Bc f2high khng nhm t no u, ngoi vic b dc bng t, ngi ta vn dng (d khng nhiu) vic b dc bng khng in tng tng tr ng dy vi mc ch nh gim dng ngn mch, phn b li power flow trong h in mch vng....c l Vit Nam mnh cha xi nn cc bc cha c thng tin v l lm y thi. Bc c vo google v g " series reactor for power flow control" l bn s thy ngay.

omon

04-30-2008, 11:24 AM

Xin gi cc bc mt trch on ca Ti liu ni v b cun khng iu khiu dng cng sut trn li in Thi lan:

Abstract- The eastern area of Thailand is the industrial area in which a number of generators are located and the large amount of power has to be transferred to the large load area in central area of Thailand. In the meanwhile, the problems occurred in the transmission system are overloading lines in 115 kV Rayong3 (RY3) - Sataheapl (SHI) - Chom Tein (CTN) lines because of limited and obsolete transmission lines. Nowadays, tripping the overload line is applied as the power flow control method. After disconnecting the transmission line, however, it may cause decreasing reliability and some power failure in the system. This study is regarding the methods of power flow control using power flow control equipment such as series reactor, series capacitor, applying in the system. Not only the steady state study but also the stability and the economic study have been done. This paper represents the power flow control problem focusing in eastern Thailand 's network, also providing the efficient method comparing with the expenditure of new transmission lines, which cost high budget and time consuming. This paper shows the technical results and investment budget to be a new alternative choice of investment in the transmission system in Thailand.

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Key Words - Power Flow Control, Series Reactor, Series Capacitor, Reliability, Steady State Study, Stability Study I. INTRODUCTION The new government policy strongly supports the private section to participate and play the important role in generation part of Thailand Electrical System, Thus, IPP (Independent Power Producer) and SPP (Small Power Producer) projects have been set for encouraging private power plants to generate and sell power to the Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand (EGAT) which is the main organization respond on generating and transmission part in Thailand. Nevertheless, in the first step, most of the SPP and IPP generators are located in the eastern industrial area, which becomes the large generator area in Thailand. Most of the energy produced by SPP and IPP generators would be transfer to the load area in the central part via the interconnected lines between central part and eastern part. As shown in Figure 1, central area (load area) is connected with eastern area (generator area) by Rayong2 (RY2) - Bo Win (BWN) 230 kV line double circuit, Rayong2 (RY2) - Ao Phail (API) 230 kV line double circuit and Rayong3 (RY3) -Sataheapl (SHI) - Chom Tein (CTN) i 15 kV line. After SPP and IPP generators start to transfer power to the main system, the overloading problem is found on the small and long time used line Rayong3 (RY3) - Sataheapl (SHI) -Chom Tein (CTN) 115 kV. This problem occurs in the peak load duration (17.00-20.00). This line is 477 MCM AAC line, which the thermals limit, is 117.52 MVA at 115 kV. The present solution of this overload line problem is to disconnecting the overload line Sataheapl (SHI)- Chom Tein (CTN) manually when the energy flow through the 115 kV transmission line nearly thermal limit of the line. This method will cause the power flow to 230 kV line instead and the overload line problem has been solved. On the other hand, after tripping 115 kV line, Sataheapl (SHI)- Chom Tein (CTN) will be the radial end substation, it will effect the reliability of both substation and the system as the whole. The operation by disconnecting 115 kV line will cause the power failure 6 time per year from the past record. II. CONTENTS From the above problem, the steady state and dynamics study uses PSS/E program from PTI as a tool and all data parameters from power system analysis section. First stage of study will focus in the steady-state condition to consider the suitable solution with the whole system. The concept of solution is trying to reduce the power flow in line Rayong3 (RY3) - Sataheapl (SHI) - Chom Tein (CTN) 115 kV and not to disconnect the transmission line. The most power should flow on 230 kV line and not overload 115 kV line. From the basic equation of transfer energy through transmission line: Pab = UaUbsin(da-db)/Xab Ua = Voltage at sending end Ub = Voltage at receiving end Xab = Impedance of the transmission line da, db = Power Angle of sending end and receiving end respectively ( 5A-83 is the different of angle from sending end and receiving end ) From the equation, the transfer power can control by both increasing impedance of 115 kV line and decreasing impedance of 230 kV line. Anyhow, the most important issue is 115 kV line won't overload. From the above concept, the suitable methods and equipment have been consider to get the most beneficial way for the system regarding to possibility of economics and installation. Because of the economic crisis in Thailand, the low investment and high efficiency will be the most important concern. The FACTS component is really useful in the power system but very high investment. The series reactor will easily cause the stability problem especially in the long line and series capacitor will have the sub-synchronous resonance but both of them take a low cost. Thus, the following methods are considered in the steady state study. 1. Series Reactor Installation in line RY3-SH1 115 kV to increase the impedance of 115 kV line. 2. Series Capacitor Installation in line RY2-AP1 230 kV double circuit to reduce the impedance of 230 kV transmission line. 3. Series Capacitor Installation in line RY2-BWN 230 kV double circuit to reduce the impedance of 230 kV transmission line. 4. Building the new transmission line. The results of study show as the following tables. The study imply that installation of series reactor 1 ohm on line RY3-SH1 115 kV will decrease power in 115 kV line more than installation of series capacitor on line RY2AP1 230 kV double circuit. Even though series capacitor installation on line RY2-AP1 230 kV double circuit can transfer some power flow from line RY2-BWN 230 kV double circuit to both circuit of RY2-AP1 230 kV line, it doesn't have much effect directly to power flow on line RY3-SH1 115 kV. Comparing table 1 and 2, fixing series capacitor on RY2-BWN 230 kV can boost the energy transfer on its line. Nevertheless, the power on line 115 kV in this technique will drop less than installing series capacitor on line RY2-AP1 230 kV double circuit. Besides the above study, many points of series component installation have been studied for possibility of reducing power flow on line RY3-SH1. For example, the installation of series capacitor and series shunt on line RY2-RY3 115 kV double circuit have a few effect for power flow on the overload line. Says using 10 ohms of

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series reactor will decrease 5 MW on 115 kV line while series capacitor will only increase power flow for that line. Since the study have been made, we can assume that the installation of series reactor on line RY3-SH1 115 kV will be the most practical method than others, following by series capacitor placing in line RY2-Apl 230 kV double circuit, (which is considered in the engineering point of view and not including building new transmission line.) [Thnh vin mi nhn thy link.] ([Thnh vin mi nhn thy link.])

hongha0401

05-03-2008, 03:15 PM

B dc: Phng php mc ni tip cc phn t b (thng l cc b t in tnh) vo ng dy ti in xoay chiu c chiu di ln b cm khng ca ng dy nhm mc ch nng cao kh nng ti theo iu kin n nh tnh. Thit b BD l mt t hp gm cc b t in cng vi thit b bo v (phng in ni tt, phng in hp nhm, cu ch hn ch dng in v thit b n nh) v kt cu cch in. Dung khng ca thit b BD thng khng vt qu 75% cm khng ca ng dy. Mc b ln s gy kh khn cho bo v rle, lm tng qu mc dng in ngn mch v tng qu mc in p ni b. ng dy siu cao p 500 kV Bc - Nam Vit Nam c mc BD khong 60% B ngang: Phng php mc song song vo ng dy ti in xoay chiu cc thit b chuyn dng b dng in dung khng ca ng dy ti in di, in p siu cao. BN c thc hin bng cc cun in khng, b t in tnh, my b hoc ng c in ng b. Nh BN, c th gim dng cng sut phn khng ti trn ng dy, do gim c tn tht nng lng. ng dy siu cao p 500 kV Bc - Nam Vit Nam c t l gia cng sut ca cc in khng BN vi cng sut do in dung ri ca ng dy sinh ra trong ch khng ti khong 70%.

Thch C Nhc

05-07-2008, 12:15 PM

Bc HongHa0401 ni ng ri. ng dy 500kV Bc Nam c chiu di gn 1500km (1/4 bc sng), nu khng c t b dc, in p hai u nam-bc s b dch pha 90 ri ng vo iu kin mt n nh tnh. V vy lp t b dc xem nh lm gim chiu di ng dy, trnh ri vo vng mt n nh. Hnh nh l bo ng nh vy.

merry

05-29-2008, 02:12 AM

, lc cn gim cm khng, lc cn tng cm khng, sao ta khng kt hp c 2 vo 1 thit b, cun khng v t, tng gim 2 ci, chnh c c 2 pha.

congld

06-06-2008, 03:53 PM

ngoi vic b dc (mc thit b b ni tip vo ng dy)nhm nng cao kh nng truyn ti ca ng dy. cn cc vn khc th ng vi cc kin ca bc f2high.

vuxuanbien

09-28-2009, 11:13 AM

Cho cc bc! Em thy ch b rt hay. Phn b cng sut cho cc ph ti h p em lm cng nhiu ri, ton l b ngang bng cc b t. Tuy nhin phn b cng sut cho mang trung p th em cha mt ln thc hin. Hin nay em ang phi lm mt h thng b cng sut cho trm 35/6KV theo kiu b ngang gm 2 nhm t, mi nhm gm 3 t 3 pha 250KVAR v 3 cun khng 1 pha. Vy xin hi cc bc c bc no bit ch dm em. Bc no c s singline hay bn v b tr h thng lm cho em xin lm v d v tham kho. Xin cm n cc bc nhiu!

ngocpt82

10-19-2009, 02:14 PM

.... 2 b dc bng khng in, thng thc hin vi cc ng dy siu cao p. cc ng dy ny c chiu di ln, do t k sinh cng ln, v vy trong ch lm vic Min th in p cui ng dy cao vt mc cho php, lm h hi gim tui th ca cc cch in, do ngi ta tin hnh b dc bng khng in. VD ng dy 500 KV thng c b dc kiu ny mnh khng ng vi bn im ny. b dc bng khng in nhm mc ch chnh l gim dng ngn mch ch khng ai li dng khng b dc lm gim in p c vi cc ng dy siu cao p, truyn ti in i xa , ngi ta ang cn gim in khng ca DZ (bng cch dng t b dc) nng cao kh nng truyn ti m bn li bo i lp thm khng b dc th mnh khng th hiu ni cn trng hp mun gim in p trn cc DZ siu cao p th ngi ta thng dng khng b ngang

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ngocpt82

10-19-2009, 02:20 PM

Bc HongHa0401 ni ng ri. ng dy 500kV Bc Nam c chiu di gn 1500km (1/4 bc sng), nu khng c t b dc, in p hai u nam-bc s b dch pha 90 ri ng vo iu kin mt n nh tnh. V vy lp t b dc xem nh lm gim chiu di ng dy, trnh ri vo vng mt n nh. Hnh nh l bo ng nh vy. bn ni c phn ng, c phn cha chnh xc ng l vi cc DZ truyn ti c chiu di ln cn phi c t b dc gim gc lch pha gia 2 u DZ, nng cao n nh, nhng l vi cc DZ khng c cc trm ph ti dc ng, nh HT 500kV ca VN trc kia. tuy nhin HT 500kV ca VN hin nay c rt nhiu trm ph ti cng nh NMD u vo DZ nn vn trn khng phi l iu quan trong na

ngoccau cc anh i cho em bit ! ti sao b ngang ngi ta trn l thuyt thng u tam gic cn thc t th u sao.

10-25-2009, 06:50 PM

kisimaquai2001

10-25-2009, 07:49 PM

v mc theo kiu sao Ud = sqrt(3).Ucapacitor, cn tam gic th Ud=Uc tc l phi tng thm kinh ph mua b t.

ngocpt82 cc anh i cho em bit ! ti sao b ngang ngi ta trn l thuyt thng u tam gic cn thc t th u sao.

10-26-2009, 01:34 AM

vi t th u tam gic, cn vi khng th u sao. l do: - vi t: mc ch l sinh ra cng sut phn khng, do , vi cng dung lng t, nu u tam gic th s sinh ra cng sut v cng ln hn do in p t vo t l in p dy - vi khng: vn mang tnh k thut nhiu hn, u sao c th u c thm khng trung tnh, lm gim dng h quang khi ngn mch 1 pha trn DZ qua gim c thi gian t ng ng li DZ khi c s c, nng cao tin cy cung cp in

hoainam2004a

10-26-2009, 03:39 PM

K Thut Xung s. Anh em cho mnh hi mt cht. thi kh qu, mong nhn c s gii 1p ca mi ngi qua a ch email: [Thnh vin mi nhn thy link.]. Thit k b m ng b m xung vi Kd=10, dng JK-FF? Thit k b m ng b m xung vi Kd=10, dng RS-FF? Thit k mch chuyn m BCD-3 sang m GRAY-3? Cm n mi ngi c

ngocpt82

10-26-2009, 07:46 PM

K Thut Xung s. Anh em cho mnh hi mt cht. thi kh qu, mong nhn c s gii 1p ca mi ngi qua a ch email: [Thnh vin mi nhn thy link.]. Thit k b m ng b m xung vi Kd=10, dng JK-FF? Thit k b m ng b m xung vi Kd=10, dng RS-FF? Thit k mch chuyn m BCD-3 sang m GRAY-3? Cm n mi ngi c bn hi nhm a ch ri. y ton dn HT ch c phi in t u

hoainam2004a

10-26-2009, 10:17 PM

Tri em cng hc HT nhng trong chng trnh hc c mn k thut xung s ny y l thi nn mi hi cc

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anh hc trc xem c gii c ko? ch nhm g.

ngocpt82

10-28-2009, 01:29 AM

Tri em cng hc HT nhng trong chng trnh hc c mn k thut xung s ny y l thi nn mi hi cc anh hc trc xem c gii c ko? ch nhm g. nu vy th bn phi vo cc trang chuyn v in t th mi c ngi gii p cho bn c. bn th vo cc trang ny xem [Thnh vin mi nhn thy link.] [Thnh vin mi nhn thy link.] [Thnh vin mi nhn thy link.] [Thnh vin mi nhn thy link.]

samurai

11-06-2009, 05:06 PM

Cc bc i c ai c ti liu hay quy trnh vn hnh t b dc no khng. up ln cho em xem vi. Mn t ny l t m qu. Nu khng c ti liu th cho em hi my ci ny t: 1: Cc ch kim tra trong vn hnh (Theo tiu chun no khng) 2: Cc tiu chun th nghim ca cc thit b trn sn t b dc 220KV

0983579346

11-12-2009, 02:11 PM

may bac co ati lieu gi ve bu ko? em cung dang quan tam mon nay mong cac bac chia se cho em voi nhe

sunrisevl

11-12-2009, 07:15 PM

B sung vi cc bc mt t v b dc v khng b ngang nh sau: Nh cc bc bit l ng dy 500kV (siu cao p) ca chng ta c chiu di xp x 1400Km. M i vi cc ng dy siu cao p th n mt chiu di no s sinh ra hin tng cng hng. Do lc mi a ra tng thnh lp ng dy 500kV ca c th tng V Vn Kit th b rt nhiu chuyn gia ngnh in phn i v l do trn. V vy cc chuyn gia ca c mi a ra gii php l chia ng dy 500kV ra nhiu chiu di khc nhau, mc ch l trnh ri vo 1/4 bc sng (trnh cng hng). V cc bit l trn ng dy th c 1km th sinh ra 1Mvar th cc bc tng tng 1400Km th sinh ra bao nhiu Q nh th. Do ti mi im chia ng dy ngi ta lp t khng b ngang vi mc ch gim lng Var . V b dc cng c lp ti mi im chia nh trn vi mc ch lm gim dc ca in p. Trn y khng th v hnh minh ha cho cc bc c. Mong thng cm. Nu cc pc no c s h thng in Vit Nam cc ng dy 500kV s thy cc b dc v khng b ngang . Thn

0983579346 email cua e: [Thnh vin mi nhn thy link.]

12-01-2009, 08:14 PM

ngoccau cc bn i . ai c ti liu li in 2 ca trn bch ko cho mnh vi a ch email mnh : [Thnh vin mi nhn thy link.]

12-05-2009, 10:59 PM

phamduypro

01-28-2010, 06:11 PM

ci ny c g kh u.bn s dng 4FF(v 4FF>10) thi ca bn yu cu m xung nn bn thit k b m t 9-->0.m ha chng ri bn s dng bng cc n ti thiu ha.cn ci bi chuyn m,bn s dng bng m BCD v bng m Gray d3 lit k tng ng ri bn cng s dng bng cc n ti thiu.Lu c nhg t hp m no cha dng n th bn s dng n ti thiu.chc thnh cng.hnh nh mun qu ri ng khng.mnh c pt ln ai cn th tham khao nh

haanhquy

12-28-2010, 09:17 AM

Cc bc tin bi gip mnh vn ny ci. Mnh ang c d nh tit kim in cho h thng chiu sng bng

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n huynh quang bng cch lp thm t b ngay trn n nng cao Cosf -> gim dng in tiu th. Nhng ti nh my mnh cng lp h thng t b ng ng ti t phn phi chnh cho ton nh my. Vy mnh lp t nh vy c th tit kim in cho nh my khng nh. Mong cc bc tin bi gio .

samurai

02-02-2011, 01:43 PM

cho anh! em thy ci n hunh quang th c mi ci chn lu l tiu th Q chc chng ng bao nhiu u m b. Cc ng c mi tiu th nhiu Q mnh mi cn b ch nh! M anh nh mc s th no ! Nu m lp t liu n c thnh mch dao ng R,L,C khi tc te nh la lp le n c gy qu in p lm hng n khng? Lu lu ri khng xem li l thuyt chc my hum na phi xem li vn ny coi th

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