Some Questions

to the Scholars of Ahl-us-Sunnah Regarding the Affairs of

Jamaa'at-ut-Tableegh

Questioner: The increased

questions regarding

Jamaaat ut-Tableegh

have

Shaykh 'Abdul Azeez bin 'Abdullaah ar-Raajihee: We say: It is known that Jamaaat ut-Tableegh are Soofiyyah, and we do not advise performing khurooj with them, because they do not call to tawheed, do not enjoin the good, and do not forbid the evil. And they enjoin the khurooj, [saying] Perform khurooj, perform khurooj. And they make it obligatory on the people to perform khurooj for 40 per year, 40 days, and likewise 2 days per week twice[1], and in every month, 3 days. And all of this has no proof. [They say] Perform khurooj, perform khurooj, they call it in the path of Allaah, yet they only care about adhkaar (remembrance of Allaah). And likewise they make some of the general folk give advice and perform dawah, yet they have no knowledge, they have no knowledge. So we advise the youth with attending the knowledge-based lessons and seeking knowledge, and not performing khurooj. And if a person wishes to call, then after that, if he is qualified, then he can call to Allaah. As for him performing khurooj while he is an ignoramus with no understanding, [then this is not permissible]. Some of the senior Shaykhs that they make speak senior Shaykhs that dont know a single thing, he doesnt read, and perhaps he doesnt know and doesnt write they make him speak in the masjid, he gives advice. And some of them are a group small youths who havent studied and havent learned.
1[1] They perform a local khurooj twice per week on two different days. These are usually done on Wednesday and Saturday after the Asr or Maghrib salaah.

And it is like this - Jamaaat ut-Tableegh, if you were to enjoin tawheed [in their presence], then there is no way would that they would leave you alone. He will say, Dont call to tawheed, and dont enjoin [the good], and dont forbid the evil, call to such-and-such, and nobody should speak about this. The intention [in dawah] is to advise the students with embarking on seeking knowledge, and learning, and gaining understanding, and gaining insight. Then, after that, [he can perform] dawah to Allaah. 2 Questioner: Noble Shaykh, the reality is not that they (i.e. Jamaa'at utTableegh) they reject the dawah to tawheed. And thus, if some students of knowledge go out with them and wish to, for example, speak and clarify aqeedah, and tawheed, and the types of shirk, they shun him and become angry with him. So what is your opinion about this? Nay, even if he was to clarify some of the confirmed sunan from the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) in some of the affairs, they reject this. Shaykh Saalih bin Fawzaan al-Fawzaan: I have witnessed this myself. I conducted a lecture on tawheed in some of the masaajid in Riyaadh, and they (the Tableegh) were gathered in the masjid, so they went out of the masjid [upon hearing the lecture]. And others like me as well some of the Scholars gave a lecture in this masjid on tawheed, so they went out of the masjid. Because they were coming into it, so when they heard the dawah to tawheed, they went out of the masjid, along with [the fact that] they were [originally] calling for a gathering in the masjid. Yet,
2 Source: http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290382

when

they

heard

tawheed,

they

went

out

of

the

masjid.

As for them not accepting the dawah to tawheed yes and that is not specific to them. Everyone who traverses upon a mapped out manhaj does not accept abandonment of it. If they had fallen into this matter (i.e. their misguidance) due to ignorance, then they might possibly return to the right way. But they fell into this matter by a design, by a manhaj upon which they have traversed for a long time, which has been mapped out for them. So there is no way that they would retract from their manhaj, because if they retracted from their manhaj, then their Jamaaah would unravel, their Jamaaah would unravel, and they do not desire this. 3 And the most recent book which has been written and has gathered in it their statements, and the criticisms against them, and those who used to befriend them then exited them and left them, the most recent book regarding this is the complete and comprehensive book, the book of Shaykh Hammood Bin Abdullaah at-Tuwayjiree[ 4], may Allaah have mercy on him. For indeed, it is a book which has not left out anything with regards to this topic. This is because it is a recent book in which
3 Read and reflect over the previous two paragraphs, for there is much wisdom to be found in them. The Shaykh has basically stated what the Salafiyyoon have been saying for quite some time already that nobody adopts a manhaj other than the Salafee manhaj except that it is due to him having some mappedout manhaj designed for specific objectives. This also explains why people like Salmaan al-Awdah do not repent and retract from their errors even after being refuted and humiliated by the Ulamaa they have specific objectives which they desire to achieve, and if they were to retract, their innovated methodologies (and thus desired objectives) would unravel. 4 He is referring to the book entitled "al-Qawl ul-Baleegh fit-Tahdheer min Jamaa'at it-Tableegh." In shaa' Allaah, more excepts from this great book will be added to this thread eventually, including some stories of those who used to go with the Tableegh and later abandoned them after having discovered their reality.

everything which has been said from before has been compiled, and authentic information regarding them has been compiled.

So there has never remained any confusion [about the Tableegh]. Yet the fitnah, and the refuge is with Allaah, if it emerges, it blinds the visions. The fitnah blinds the visions. And if not, then how can a human being who has lived upon tawheed, and studied tawheed, and came to know the aqeedah of tawheed, how could he be deceived by those?!? How could he perform khurooj with them? How could he call to them? How could he defend them? Is this not from misguidance after guidance, and replacing that which is superior with that which is inferior? We ask Allaah for good health and security. Questioner: What is your advice to your brothers from the general folk, those who do not know their (i.e. the Tableeghs) objectives even the women now perform khurooj to Pakistan? Shaykh Saalih bin Fawzaan al-Fawzaan: My advice to my brothers from the general folk and other than the general folk is that they do not befriend them. And if they desire good, then it is present, praise to Allaah, in their land. If they desire knowledge, then the Scholars are present. If they desire worship, then the masaajid and houses are open for worship. If they desire anything from the affairs of the Religion, then it is available, and the praise is to Allaah. 5
5 Source: original audio here (played as you enter the website) transcript here. The transcript has been
published in the book Jamaaat ut-Tableegh pp. 445-446.

Questioner: O Honorable Shaykh, there are newly-arisen groups like the Ikhwaan and the Tableegh and other than them. So are these groups from Ahl us-Sunnah and what is you advice regarding this topic? Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin al-Abbad al-Badr: These various, newly-arisen sects, first of all, are heresies whose birth was in the fourteenth century. And before the fourteenth century, they were not in existence and nor were they born they were in the world of the dead. As for the upright manhaj and the straight path, then its birth and origin is the sending of the Noble Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) whatever the Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) and his companions were upon when he was sent (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam). So whosoever emulates this truth and guidance, then he is the one who has attained safety and has been saved. And whosoever diverges from this, then he is a deviant. These sects or these groups, it is known that they have correctness and they have errors. But their errors are large and tremendous, so they are to be warned from. And [one should] be persistent in following the Jamaaah which is Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaaah, and they are those upon the manhaj of the Salaf of this Ummah, and those whose reliance is upon what came from Allaah and from His Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam). And their reliance is not upon what came from soand-so and so-and-so, nor is it upon the orders and manaahij which

were innovated in the fourteenth century upon this manhaj and upon this well-known way. 6 Shaykh 'Abdul Muhsin al-Abbad al-Badr said: As for Jamaaat utTableegh, then first of all, they have abominable affairs and it is an innovated manhaj. And it emerged from Delhi, it did not emerge from Makkah nor Madeenah, rather, its origin and source is Delhi in India. And India, as is well-known, is full of khuraafaat (heretical superstitions) and full of bida, even if there may be many from Ahl usSunnah and those who are upon the Sunnah and the correct way, like Jamaaat Ahl ul-Hadeeth, who are amongst the best of people in that land And their founder
7

(i.e. of the Tableegh) is from the people of

innovation and from the people of the Soofee orders and from the deviants in aqeedah, so it (the Tableegh) is an innovation and heresy. In those lands, it (Jamaaat ut-Tableegh) is found to be relying upon these affairs which have been placed down by their founder for this order.[8] And in their aqeedah they are deviants, and in their order as well they have amongst them the Soofiyyah, and amongst them are the Ashaairah those who are are not upon the manhaj of Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaaah, neither in aqeedah, nor in sulook (i.e. way and
6 Source: Jamaaat ut-Tableegh pp. 448-449 by way of the following thread on sahab:
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290382 7 He is Muhammad Illiyaas al-Kandahlawee, 8 Meaning that the innovations laid down by Illiyaas are the source of "guidance" upon which they firmly place their reliance, and the refuge is with Allaah.

characteristics). 9 Shaykh Rabee bin Hadee al-Madkhali was asked about Jamaaah utTableegh, so he said: I have never gone with this Jamaaah, but indeed, I went for work, then, like, to Kashmir. And I became vacated from this work, and I passed through Delhi, so it was said to me: Let us go to such and such place to visit the dawah center of Jamaaat ut-Tableegh, and to, like, Nidhaam ud-Deen. Nidhaam ud-Deen, this is a masjid nearby the dawah center of Jamaaat ut-Tableegh, and inside of it are five graves, atop which are domes, which are worshipped alongside of Allaah, a clear worship, no dust on it (i.e. a figurative expression meaning that it is plain for everyone to see). Then we went out to the masjid of Jamaaat ut-Tableegh, and it was being said, like, the people were disagreeing with each other as to whether there were graves in it or there werent graves in it. So Abdur-Rubb asked, this one whom I have mentioned, he asked a number of them: Is there in this masjid the masjid of Jamaaat utTableegh a grave or some graves? The clever ones [amongst them] said: No, there are no graves in it. The
9 Source: Jamaaat ut-Tableegh pp. 448-449 by way of the following thread on sahab:
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290382

grave of Illiyaas is buried in Makkah, or such-and-such place, some far away place. So he continued to ask until an individual guided him or informed him that the grave of Illiyaas was in the masjid, and next to it, the grave of his wife. Then he came with the brother Abdur-Rubb to the two graves and stood over them. Then after he made sure [that these were the graves], he came back and said: Come, I will show you these two graves. So we looked, and so he said: This is the grave of Illiyaas, and this is the grave of his wife, and they are inside of the masjid. Then after that, we verified that there were four graves in this masjid, not two. We verified [this fact] from some trustworthy people who accompanied Jamaaat ut-Tableegh for years and knew this true state of affairs [End of Shaykh's words] 10 The Eminent Shaykh Hamood Bin Abdullaah at-Tuwayjiree (d. 1413) on the Qubooriyyah and Shirkiyyaat of Jamaaat it-Tableegh, may Allaah rid the earth of their evil and misguidance... The Shaykh said, as quoted from his treatise Haqaaiq an Jamaaat itTableegh (Realities Regarding Jamaaat it-Tableegh): Many of them (the Tableegh) glorify the graves of the awliyaa and the structures on
10 From the book Jamaaat ut-Tableegh (p. 450). The actual audio is also available
here: http://www.sahab.fm/index.php?action=file&id=6 Also refer to this thread on sahab: http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&postid=326865

top of them, and they make tawaaf around them, and they make vows to them, and they do not reject these rejected (munkarah) things. He also said: And the graves of their leaders are in the masjid! I mean the grave of Illiyaas and the grave of his son are inside of the masjid. And that Jamaaah makes vows to those buried persons and seeks help from them in the important matters. And when this is rejected from them, they say: We are not Wahhaabiyeen. 11

11 Refer to the following thread: http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&postid=350052

Look at the shirk and innovation of this evil sect and ask yourself, what should be said about the one who knowingly seeks to include them into Ahl us-Sunnah? Does he do so because of hawaa? Or is because he seeks to, bit by bit, revive the manhaj of Hasan al-Bannaa and melt the barriers between the Saved Sect and the 72 hell-bound sects? And what is to be said about he who defends those whose shirk (as mentioned above by the Noble Shaykh) takes them outside of the Ummah entirely?