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Aluminum Bottle Tumbler Cup & Cook Pot for an Alcohol Stove
by hpstoutharrow on September 9, 2009 Table of Contents Aluminum Bottle Tumbler Cup & Cook Pot for an Alcohol Stove . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Intro: Aluminum Bottle Tumbler Cup & Cook Pot for an Alcohol Stove . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 1: .................................................................................................................. 1 2 4 4 5 6 6 7 8 9
Step 2: Cut the Neck Off . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 3: Start the Flare . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 4: Rolling the Edge . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 5: Increase the Roll Angle . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 6: Closing the Edge . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 7: Second Roll . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 8: Finish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Step 9: Ready to use . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 Step 10: Additional Camp Use. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 Related Instructables . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14 Comments . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15
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Intro: Aluminum Bottle Tumbler Cup & Cook Pot for an Alcohol Stove
Roll a rim on an Aluminum Bottle to create a Tumbler Cup, or a Cook Pot for a backpacking stove. This instructable walks through the process of making a mouth-friendly edge on an aluminum bottle turning it into a Cool Reusable Metal Tumbler Cup. The steps outlined here are, stand-alone, instructions to make a complete Metal Tumber from an aluminum bottle; suitable to use as a lightweight tankard for all your favorite beverages. (I recommend the chilled kind. Remember science?...aluminum is an excellent heat conductor; you don't want hot cocoa burns on your fingertips as well as the tip of your tongue!) However... those of you familiar with the Aluminum Bottle Backpacking Stove, ( http://www.instructables.com/id/Aluminum-Bottle-Alcohol-Stove/ ) will also recognize the technique demonstrated here, as a means for creating light weight cooking tools to accompany an alcohol stove. The video below shows these Aluminum Bottles & Tumblers in use as a lightweight backpacking cook / storage system.
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Step 1:
I have gotten inquires about the availability of this style aluminum bottle. The bottles are obviously used for beer (and I know at least one soft drink) however, availability of either (or any for that matter) varies by region. As an added note: I had reservation about posting an instructable that featured an alcohol container as it is not appropriate for all. I would have perfered to use a soft drink bottle however due to availability in my area, I only have found the beer bottle variety. But ultimately, its the aluminum bottle that we're interested in, not necessarly the beverage. Dispose of the contents as you deem appropriate, or seek out empties through another source. (Along the same lines: I am pretty sure not everyone who has built a bar-b-que from a steel barrel personally bought, and consumed the 50 gallons of Crude Oil inside to get to an empty drum.)
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Step 8: Finish
Again use the dowel to finish pressing the second roll tight against the can. Adding just the start of a third flare, will help to close the gap between the sidewall and the second roll. Stretch the rim by placing the dowel in the bottle and repeat the stirring motion. This will bring the rim back from any "out of round" bending that might have occurred. The stretching also increases the "hoop tension" on the rolled rim to finish pulling it tight against the side wall. The photos show the finished product with a tight fitting rim.
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kage_no_akiri says:
Dec 11, 2010. 10:39 PM REPLY hly crap this is ACE! next time i go to town im gonna look up a few places and see if icn find any bottles like this. i need to replace my current stove cus it burns too much fuel compared to yours. it takes 40ml of methanol to bring 350ml of water up to temp for my tea. i love the tumblers you presented here as well. ive never seen a rolled edge done this way and im hoping ill be able to pull it off. thanx so much for this. oh yes, i also wanted to thank you for recording your films w/o sound. it was a lot easier to focus on the demonstration in silence. the notations were also very brill.
WayfinderAli says:
Sep 20, 2010. 10:49 AM REPLY a few matching pairs of these would make a great inexpensive wedding present if you have friends that are big drinkers. We have friend who are HUGE drinkers and wish I could have made them some for their recent wedding. Sep 24, 2009. 8:20 AM REPLY What kind of lining is in the aluminum bottle? Doctors and food safety specialists often say not to store food or beverages in opened aluminum containers, or re-use the containers because the aluminum may leach out. Aluminum consumption is linked to Alzheimer's Disease. However, if the bottle has a protective lining, it should be ok to re-use.
nodnol says:
hpstoutharrow says:
Sep 24, 2009. 3:13 PM REPLY I believe most metal food and beverage containers are sprayed with a food grade epoxy coating to prevent contact (and chemical reactions) between the food and metal.
mrsayao says:
Sep 25, 2009. 11:42 AM REPLY Some cans are lined with BPA. The use of BPA has become a huge debate. The food packaging industry is clearly for the use of BPA as it does exactly what you two are stating, however the flip side of the debate mothers, doctors have begun to voice their experiences with it. Canada has begun to ban the chemical in all food grade containers. It's sad to come to know that since a lot of things in this world can cause cancer, it would be extremely difficult to stay away from everything that is "cancer causing." I'm against BPA use, but I am TOTALLY for these aluminum tumblers!!! Good job, I've always wanted to know how to roll an aluminum lip like that!
kill-a-watt says:
Sep 2, 2010. 4:48 AM REPLY My understanding is that the entire industry is phasing out that type of plastic liner for all types of cans. I think I saw a news story on that only a few weeks ago.
May 10, 2010. 2:20 PM REPLY incredible, I thought you would need to fire the rim first, it might even be helpful. I wish I had gotten into making these BEFORE the bottles became extinct! can't really get them here on LI w/o extreme expense, and if you do not like Bud, (me), or can't drink anymore anyway , (me) , then y'all screwed. I would love to try this out . Anyone out there know of any place out here that sell it on premise , so I could try to scrounge them ?? thanks chris
TheLimbReaper says:
Aug 21, 2010. 3:57 PM REPLY In Pennsylvania I first saw the aluminum bottles at the local bar for a special event. Mostly I don't see them at the bar but now the beer distributer sells Bud alum. bottles by the case. I suggest checking at your local drinking establishments, that is if you're still allowed to enter.
Aug 24, 2010. 5:23 AM REPLY Hi Limb Reaper, DAD BURNIT IT! I found your reply the day I got back from Pennsylvannia !! AARRGGHH I even passed two beer distributors. I gotta say I hate Budweiser so I would never have bought the stuff, do they have Deposit bottles there? sparkie
TheLimbReaper says:
Aug 24, 2010. 2:25 PM REPLY Ha, I'm hot a big Bud fan either. No we don't have any deposits in my area North of Pittsburgh. I suggest buying a case and gifting it on the condition that the receiver returns the bottles to you.
Aug 24, 2010. 6:17 PM REPLY Hi, Good Idea, gone flat. Anybody I know that I would willingly give a caser of beer to (at a very high price), would not be caught dead with a Bud in their hands. All of us drink german stuff. This week a big special by us is buy a case of Hoffbrau October fest, get a 1 liter Stein (glass, not clay :-( ) free. I have two now, (or soon will, they owe me one). I may buy a few (if I can find them) and just dump them out. I can drink maybe two then they destroy me, bad hamngover or futzie head next day. Drink the Deutch stuff, no worries. I just wish I had gotten your email B$ I left PA , I passed two beer distributors on way home. Of course in PA one must buy "cases" from a beer distributor, here in NY it is wacko, but I can buy onsies and twosies in a BD. ttfn sparkie
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jaberwok32 says:
Oct 8, 2009. 10:14 AM REPLY hpstoutharrow , I think your instruckable is fantastic. I made the backpackstove, it works great. I have a question though, when I try to roll the edge of the tumbler, I get to the point when you work it on the wood, the lip is beveled out flat and when I start the rolling over process on the first roll I constantly get a crack . Im having trouble getting the first roll to lay flat against the can. Ive tried so much my fiance is beginging to think Im an Alcoholic. Lol Am I putting too much pressure? Going to fast? If you could enlighten me that would be great. Im sure your an expert and these are just amature mistakes but I would really like a tumbler set lol. Thanks
hpstoutharrow says:
Oct 8, 2009. 7:01 PM REPLY A few split when I first started. I hope something here helps: 1. Make sure the cut edge is free of saw nicks, burrs, and file marks. There should be no edge imperfections that could initiate a crack. 2. The cut edge should be flat. After any cutting or de-burr filing turn the edge on emery cloth placed on a flat surface. Removing material this way eliminates high spots on the edge and ensures the edge has a full wall stock thickness. (see the first photo below) 3. When the flare is started make sure the edge is not too wide. 4. When rocking the bottle on the wood to roll the edge, do it gradually and evenly. It will take a number of turns. Periodically stop and examine the edge to make sure it is rolling evenly. Adjust downward pressure accordingly. 5. Make sure the bottle stays round while rocking the bottle do not apply so much downward force that the edge of the bottle takes on an extreme oval shape. Stop occasionally and use the dowel or push bottle over the neck end of another bottle or use a PVC pipe connector (photo 2 below) to "stretch" the edge back into round. Good luck and keep trying. Let me know if you succeed.
TheLimbReaper says:
Aug 21, 2010. 4:16 PM REPLY Ah gee, looking at your pics. I guess I can't add much useful as I too figured out to use the PVC collars also. I can suggest to use the shortened bottom of a "cottle" and a leather mallet to help form an "inside" rolled lip. This works especially well if the bottle bottom is streached first. Also some single use propane cylinders (Worthington brand) when cut open (extreme caution warning: Be certain cylinder is completely empty before cutting open) have a dished bottom wish is handy in forming an internal bead. The "forming" can bottom must have a small hole drilled in it to avoid a vaccum. I hope that's helpful to somebody.
TheLimbReaper says:
Aug 21, 2010. 3:52 PM REPLY I wouldn't get too excited about posting the "beer bottle" stove since most kiddies know what beer is. I do have to agree with the comments against using the cans as the primary cooking vessel as they certainly are lined (at least the soda cans). With that said; I have thrown caution to the wind and made a coffee percolator from Bud bottles myself. Aug 2, 2010. 12:30 PM REPLY I wouldn't use one of these to cook anything in. They are usually lined with something that isn't made to be heated and you'll end up eating it. Somebody emailed Heineken in a different 'ible about making a cook pot out of their beer cans and they replied with as much. Be careful.
lostdragon says:
TANZMEISTER says:
Aug 2, 2010. 2:33 PM REPLY They're lined with plastic. Though any that will vaporize will burn off the first time you use it. And you don't eat the flames (I hope).
TANZMEISTER says:
Jul 17, 2010. 8:52 AM REPLY using another bottle as a pot is a neat concept. However, it seems that with the flames racing up the sides your losing at least half your heat to the surrounding system rather then transfering it to your desired heat reservoir (your pot). If having better efficiency is not an issue, then using the bottle as a pot is great. If better efficiency is an issue, then I'd recommend a pot with a larger base, twice the diameter of the heat source is usually recommended for gas camp stoves. your pot design is still the best I've seen here on instructcables!
TANZMEISTER says:
fail! I ment to say stove design at the end there
survivalman says:
Great ible
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ch5 says:
Awesome! I didn't think that putting such a neat finish on the borders could be done by hand without some kind of weird specific tool. I'm doing this to my alcohol stoves soon :) Thanks a lot.
junits15 says:
what brand of soda uses these?
smn368 says:
there were a few limited edition mt dew and other pepsi products that were in the same bottles
junits15 says:
as soon as i read, "limited" i went, DARN
Dec 27, 2009. 5:45 PM REPLY speaking of the Venom brand, i bought two last night and remember mentioning them here. So, naturally, I followed this instructable lol
hpstoutharrow says:
Nicely done! The Venom graphic looks great as a cup.
Dec 28, 2009. 10:56 AM REPLY I agree. I am contemplating buying the other flavours just for the purpose of a full set, to give as gifts to those certain people who are obsessed with energy drinks..
hpstoutharrow says:
Dec 28, 2009. 5:55 PM REPLY I found some Mt. Dew aluminum bottles with Halloween designs this last October. How's this as an "eye for an eye". Though I think I like the Venom eye better.
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hpstoutharrow says:
I received comments there are bottles of Mountain Dew. I have not found them myself.
voltagedude says:
one of my friends had one il ask him!
junits15 says:
ok, I have sen bottle like this with coke in them, but they are a diffrent shape.
msw100 says:
Great job, you must have had plenty of practice to get to this standard
jdc187 says:
while I love the commitment to craftmanship couldn't you just sand the upper edge smooth and role once
shamanwhitewolf says:
Sep 25, 2009. 9:24 AM REPLY (Along the same lines: I am pretty sure not everyone who has built a bar-b-que from a steel barrel personally bought, and consumed the 50 gallons of Crude Oil inside to get to an empty drum.) Hehe You don't know my uncle down in S.E. Texas! This is really cool. This was part of this week's email and the timing is perfect- it helps with some ideas for something I'm looking for. As a biker, I find it a pain in the butt to fill the tank. The McCuff is a rubber-like device that makes it super easy, but you have to put it on, take it, etc. (I'm lazy, I know) So I'm thinking of trying to build something out of aluminum or stainless that stays in the take-fill hole and is collapsible. Basically, you'd open the fill hatch, lift the multi-section device with a twist (which locks it in the 'up' position, fill the tank, and collapse the device back down with a reverse-twist, close the hatch and go. Any ideas how to add your brilliance to my idea and make it, you know, actually work?
dpainter says:
Is the end of the dowel, the end in the can, cut square or rounded?
hpstoutharrow says:
Sep 24, 2009. 2:49 PM REPLY It is square cut. But, there is really nothing particularly critical about the dowel or its dimensions. The point is just to use something with a friendly surface to start the flare. A small diameter PVC pipe might also work. I just wouldn't use anything harsh like a steel pipe. Also something with a small diameter,like a pencil, might cause a crease in the flare edge given the small surface area, point contact.
soundmotor says:
Nicely done! Have you had any problems with cracking or splitting when you did this?
hpstoutharrow says:
Sep 22, 2009. 6:55 PM REPLY No, not at all. The aluminum on the bottles is thick enough that it stretches well. I had the same concern. The first one I did (the blue bottle) I tried to anneal it with a torch after the first roll (It yellowed the lacquer). On the next ones I double rolled them without annealing it and there was no problem.
soundmotor says:
I need to go hunt down some alu bottles. This project is just too cool! Kudos!
Kryptonite says:
I like the "please recycle" on the blue can! It just adds its own little touch, intended or not.
hpstoutharrow says:
Sep 17, 2009. 4:05 PM REPLY My goal was to downplay an alcohol brand name. So where possible I photographed the back of the bottles. So, highlighting the recycle symbol was unintentional but, now that you mention it is rather appropriate. Good catch.
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cokecola says:
This was very cool. I have been wondering how to make a rolled back edge like that. I was quite impressed!
ToniRose says:
Sep 16, 2009. 9:23 PM REPLY Very cool. Are these bottles used in Europe and Asia? (Looks like the kind of hip design that wanders to the US late.) We could start a Hip Bottle Swap for different languages, graphics and obscure names. I want one with Cyrillic characters! Sep 16, 2009. 8:17 PM REPLY Great follow up to the stove! I've searched my local area (Little Rock, Arkansas) and thus far haven't been able to come up with aluminum bottles yet. But given time, I'm sure we will. Keep up the great work!
piperjon says:
pineapplenewton says:
also that is a very poor flame pattern on that pot waist alot of the flame
pineapplenewton says:
a bit tall don't you think?
Project_Nightmare says:
Sep 14, 2009. 8:30 PM REPLY Wow I think I'm in love with this guy's instructables and I cant even drink yet. (I only had small tastes and my parents always where watching.) Great instructables that I want to make, now I just need to get my parents to buy and drink all the beer...
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