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Need of integration Management Sysstem Eg. Clause 0.

4 of ISO 9001 : 2008 indicates :


This International Standard does not include requirements specific to other MS such as those particular to EMS, OHSMS, Financial Management or Risk Management. However, this International Standard enable an organization to align or integrate its own QMS with related MS requirements

Stakeholders will impose more & more MS Requirements ISO system is always talking about CONTROL n CONTROL What is Management System? A framework of processes and procedures used to control & ensure that an organization can fulfil all tasks required to achieve its objectives
_ QMS = customer satisfaction and improve satisfaction through continual improvement processes _ EMS = environmental performance through continual improvement processes _ OHSMS = control OHS risks and improve performance through continual improvement processes

MS Full fill requirement stakeholder, Sustaining the satisfying to all stakeholders


Six common elements Source: ISO Guide 72
Policy Planning Implementation and Operation Performance Assessment Improvement Management Review

ISO We must have some requirement Not How to do it, Not we must do that or like that

Interested parties: stake holder

OHSAS 18001:1999 human injuries & property damage OHSAS 18000:2007 only human injuries HIRRAC last version Hazzard and Management Control new version

Not in OHSAS Not intended for employee wellbeing / wellness program, product safety, property damage & environmental impacts

ISO 14001 OHSAS 18000 yellow


4.6 Management Review 4.2 Environmental / OHS Policy 4.5 Checking
Monitoring & Performance Measurement Evaluation of Compliance Incident Investigation, Nonconformity, CPA Control of Records Internal Audit

4.3 Planning
Environmental Aspects // HIRADC Legal & Other Requirements Objectives, Targets & Program 4.4. Implementation & Operation
Resources, Roles, Resp, Accountability & Authority Competence, Training & Awareness Communication, Participation & Consultation Documentation Control of Documents Operational Control Emergency Preparedness & Response

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1. Best practice of amount number of MR. if the organization applying IMS, do the organization need to have one MR for each MS, or only 1 MR for all IMS. Also in case The organization has number of branches which spread out across different location but has typical business process, should each branch has one MR. 2. Do ISO standard provided the guideline to integrate each MS (ex which have been released by ISO (ex correspondence between clause) 3. Another question related to ISO risk management standard. Regarding the risk management which cover all risk appear in the activities, As convenience EMS, OHSAS only cover two risk area of impact on environment & on safety. ISO Risk management mention about wide risk area; such as risk strategic risk, financial risk, operation risk and all risk which possible to appears on the organization activities. Would be there are some overlap or duplication when integrating ISO Risk Management & IMS established (EMS, QMS, OHSAS) 4. Best practice for establishing MR, who is the best level in the organization to take responsibility as MR. (manager, supervisor or one who well trained regarding ISO). 5.5.2 person who are appointed suppose to be from management level 5. Is there any expired limit of the ISO document if so how long the documents will expire? Best time to renewal the document. There is no limit for document, it is a live (records are different) 6. When IMS implemented on the organization, should audit process conducted for each MS one by one or only one time process for IMS? 7. Could you please elaborate more detail about the statement on slide number 14 last presentation: Inconsistency of one practice may leads to the same non conformance in all IMS (QMS,EMS,OHSAS) (for example; in case we got NC on QMS is there automatically will lead NC on IMS? Or may be when we plan to integrate another ISO). 8. When the organization have certification from different bureau for each MS, could the organization state as IMS implemented organization. 9. Could different bureau audit the organization which got the certification from another bureau?

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