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Posted: Sep 16, 2009 8:20 AM
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could someone explain me abt the pre-requisites required to perform a return PO.................... is the movement type 161
Rajesh Dangle
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Re: return PO
Posted: Sep 16, 2009 8:21 AM to: poorani verma in response
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Stock must be available in storage locations so that you can do return to vendor.
Parasuram M
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Hi In the PO created please select the Returns item & stock must be available. Do MIGO.
Regards Ram Edited by: Parasuram M on Sep 16, 2009 11:54 AM
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Bijay Kumar Barik

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Re: return PO
Posted: Sep 16, 2009 8:30 AM to: Parasuram M in response
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Hi, For example if we procure a material like Impeller 100 quantity and we are procuring this material very rarely and we used 80 quantities in our industry and 20 no are in stock. If u have no use of that Impeller further (if you feel) and if u want to dispose them u have two options. 1. One is to sell it. 2. The other is to return to vendor if u have good terms with vendor. So at that time you can use 161MT. If you have to create return PO and then MIGO with return PO and with 161 MT, then quantity will reduce from your inventory. Note: 161MT : You can use this when you want to return some materials from our stock to vendor you can create a PO with returns check and you can return material . This has the same effect as the 122.But the difference is using 122 u can return the material against a PO. Using 161 u can return the material when ever u want while creating a PO. 122MT: You use 122 only if we do GR against a PO with 101 and if we want to return the material to vendor (what ever may be the reason like quality is not good , package condition is not good etc) with respect to the same PO. Regards,
Biju K
Veerabhadrappa B
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Hello, Pre requisites Vendor return Via return PO and delivery. 1. You must create a customer master record for the vendor and assign the same in vendor master Control view 2. In vendor master purchasing view flag the Returns Vendor check box. 3. Maintain shipping point determination (OVL2)
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Vendor return whitout delivery via IM. Use movment types 122 Return delivery to supplier 124 Return delivery to vendor from GR blocked stock
161 Return for purchase order. If a purchase order item is marked as a returns item, the returns to vendor are posted using movement type 161 when the goods receipt for purchase order ( 101) is posted. Movement type 161 has the same effects as movement type 122. With regards, VB Hi I have the requirement to process ERS-Returns (MRRL) where I need to have a credit memo for the product cost and the planned delivery costs incurred with the original order. ($15,000 for product and $1200 for delivery costs = Credit Memo for $16,200) I have tested this extensively but in all situations the planned delivery costs creates an 'invoice' not a credit memo. Has anybody encountered this requirement? If so, were you able to resolve without implementing an enhancement? Thanks.
Kenix Chiang
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Re: ERS for Return Items with Planned Delivery Costs also as credit
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Posted: Oct 20, 2009 10:58 AM to: Dalia Haugen
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For delivery costs you need to maintain the following customizing: OLMR Evaluated Receipt Settlement (ERS) Specify Automatic Settlement of Planned Delivery Costs The flag controls whether to include or exclude planned delivery costs from automatic settlement. Regarding the planned delivery cost, it will not listed in transaction MRRL. This is the standard SAP design. Instead, please use transaction MRDC.
Dalia Haugen
Re: ERS for Return Items with Planned Delivery Costs also as credit
Posted: Oct 20, 2009 5:35 PM to: Kenix Chiang in response
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Thank you for your response, but that did not address my question. I am not trying to post an invoice. I can do that using MRRL or MRDC. I want to post a 'credit memo' for the delivery costs. I actually ending up finding an OSS Note where it appears that the only way you can obtain credit for the delivery costs incurred for the returned products is to create a standard surcharge condition type. You can't used the same planned delivery costs condition types. D.
Release strategy for Return PO

Posted: Sep 22, 2009 10:14 AM
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Hi, Can we create Release strategy for Return PO's. ?

Regards Sunil Prashant Rathore
Re: Release strategy for Return PO

Posted: Sep 22, 2009 10:23 AM response to: sunilkm460 in
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Hi, The process for return PO is: Process: - Create a return PO - Create a outbound delivery - Goods issue
Release Strategy can be created for All Document Types as Document Types being one of the determining factors for Release strategies. So under Classification data Characteristics which we maintain determine the release strategies for a Particular Purchasing documents. Actually it depends on your Business case that for what all documents you want to have a release strategy config. regards, Prashant Rathore.
Bathula R Kumar

Posted: Sep 22, 2009 10:26 AM to: sunilkm460 in response
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Hi If you are creating the Return PO's using a Separate PO type, you can define the release strategy. Create classification with that PO type Create class for Ret PO release assign the classification to this class create release strategies and complete the other release pre requisites Please revert with your test findings
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sunilkm460

Posted: Sep 22, 2009 11:51 AM to: Bathula R Kumar in response
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i have created PO release strategy is attached, for the same Po i have selected return delivery indicator at line item level but release strategy no triggred. you mean i have to create saparate release for return PO. any class & characterstics difference for return PO. Re: Release strategy for Return PO
Posted: Sep 22, 2009 12:05 PM to: sunilkm460 in response
Prashant Rathore
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Hello, There is no need to create any other characteristic apart from the one which already exist for PO release strategy. Are you using Document type as one of the characteristic for determining of release strategy for Purchase Orders. Maintain all characteristics correctly also check for release prerequisites setting should be correctly maintained along with release indicators in rel. st. config. Check for the same and Confirm.
regards, Prashant Rathore.
sunilkm460

Posted: Sep 22, 2009 2:11 PM to: Prashant Rathore in response
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i have done as per you adviced. in standard SAP if we select return delivery indicator release strategy will not trigger. Can u please create PO first, if release stratety exit will trigger, then go to modify mode & select return delivery indicator release strategy will not trigger. Re: Release strategy for Return PO
Amit Choudhary
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Returns indicator has nothing to do with release strategy. 1. Can you check what are the characterstics you are using in the strategy. 2. Have you created a separate document type for returns ? Re: Release strategy for Return PO
Posted: Sep 22, 2009 2:15 PM to: Bathula R Kumar in response
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How many class's can we create. can we use one class for Po release & once class for return PO ?
Amit Choudhary

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You can have only one class for PR release and one for PO release. You cannot have 2 for each.
sunilkm460

Posted: Sep 22, 2009 2:24 PM to: Amit Choudhary in response
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I have not created saperate document type for reverse PO.Iam using same document type(po document type) iam using characteristics as below Purchasing Document Category Purchase order Order Type (Purchasing) Purchase Orders Purchasing Group HO Purchase Purchasing Organization Eden Woods Total net order value > 0.00 INR
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You are using a char Net Value > 0. In case of free, it will be equal to zero. Pl. change it to >=0 and then try. It sure should work
sunilkm460

Posted: Sep 22, 2009 3:11 PM to: Amit Choudhary in response
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Thank u Boss. IT's Working.
Enhancement when creating GR return via delivery

Posted: Nov 2, 2009 10:13 AM
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Dear all: Is there any ways that I can copy header text (MKPF-BKTXT) to header data of delivery note? (LIKP-LIFEX) This happens when I create return delivery in MIGO and tick "via delivery" in header. System will automatically create a delivery note when I save this transaction. I want to copy some information to delivery note. Other header field except LIKP-LIFEX is OK, too. Please advise. Thanks.
Raymond Giuseppi
Re: Enhancement when creating GR return via delivery

Posted: Nov 2, 2009 11:14 AM to: Jane Wang in response
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You may try with BADI LE_SHP_DELIVERY_PROC Regards, Raymond
Jane Wang

Posted: Nov 2, 2009 11:25 AM to: Raymond Giuseppi in response
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Thanks for your reply. I tried this one. But I could't find appropriate import parameter to import data from MKPF. It seems all import parameters are from SD. Please help me. Thanks.
Raymond Giuseppi

Posted: Nov 2, 2009 1:28 PM to: Jane Wang in response
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Try to export the required information to memory during BADI MB_DOCUMENT_BADI, then importing (and clearing) it in BADI LE_SHP_DELIVERY_PROC. Regards, Raymond
Jane Wang

Posted: Nov 4, 2009 2:03 AM to: Raymond Giuseppi in response
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Thanks for your useful information. But MB_DOCUMENT_BADI is not called during my execution of MIGO return delivery. So I tried MB_CHECK_LINE_BADI (method :CHECK_LINE) to import and use LE_SHP_DELIVERY_PROC (method: FILL_DELIVERY_HEADER) to export. And it works! Thanks again.
Dear All, I have configured return purchase order(documnt type, number ranges),But for return PO i want to make return delivery indicator as mandatory in item level. where i can find that config. pls tell the path in SPRO. Regards Sunil
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Re: Return delivery indicator in PO

Posted: Sep 24, 2009 12:43 PM response to: sunilkm460 in
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Make a new Field Selection key in SPRO-MM-Purchasing-Purchase Order-Define Screen layout at document level and create new screen and make the Returns indicator field mandatory and assign the same to your return po doc type. Re: Return delivery indicator in PO
SHAILESH EMANUE...
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Hi, Check the Returns indicator for Field Selection Key which is assinged to your document type. 1. Check the field selection key assinged to doc type : Materials Management Purchasing Purchase Order Define Document Types 2. Check the return tick for field selection key. Materials Management Purchasing Purchase Order Define Document Types
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Define Screen Layout at Document Level

Now beter is to create a new filed selection key by copy from exsiting one NBF and give name as ZNB. Assing this ZNB to new doc type for Return and now tick mark Returns indicator as required entry from optional. You will find this filed in Selection group as GR/IR Control. Regards, Shailesh sunilkm460
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Posted: Sep 24, 2009 2:56 PM to: SHAILESH EMANUE... in response
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Thank you , Regards Sunil
Hi, After GR if er reject material then we post it to block stock and using MIGO 122 mvt. we return to vendor. My problem is if material is accepted and after using some qty. if it is found that there is some problem then how to return available stock to vendor. I have tried following steps: 1. first transfer material to QM lot and then reject. 2. Then try MIGo 122 mvt. againt PO but it doesnot allow me to return. Pl. clarify me. Thanks Ganesh
Syed Hussain
Re: Return delivery for po

Posted: Sep 27, 2009 11:07 AM response to: G kude in
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Dear, Go to MIGO - Return Delivery - Material document. Enter the reference material document as the original goods receipt material document number. Enter the quantity you need to return to vendor and check the stock type selected as UNRESTRICTED (Since material received accepted and stock moved into UN RESTRCTED). Save the document. Regards,
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Tushar Patankar

Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:34 PM to: G kude in response
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Hi Ganesh, As per the scenario you have first accpeted the material against your purchase order using movement ytpe 101. Now as per the description there is some problem and you want to reject the remaining material. If you want to do the same you have first reverse the entry of acceptance made against the purshase order. You have to only cancel the only the quanity for which you want to return it to vendor. For cancellation do not make the reference to material document created, during acceptance. As you you have cancel only partial quantity enter the cancellation in MIGO screen without any reference, use movement type 102.Change the quanity suggested by P.O. to the cancel quantity After this a material document will be created and now with reference to this material document you can file return to the vendor using movement type 122. I hope this helps. Regards, Tushar Patankar
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G kude

Posted: Oct 22, 2009 10:33 AM to: G kude in response
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Dear Mr. Tushar, You have mentioned that: For cancellation do not make the reference to material document created, during acceptance. As you you have cancel only partial quantity enter the cancellation in MIGO screen without any reference, use movement type 102.Change the quanity suggested by P.O. to the cancel quantity This is notpossible to cancel qty. with mvt. 102 and no reference document. Pl. clarify me. Ganesh
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return PO
Posted: Sep 16, 2009 8:20 AM
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could someone explain me abt the pre-requisites required to perform a return PO.................... is the movement type 161
Rajesh Dangle
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Stock must be available in storage locations so that you can do return to vendor.
Parasuram M
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Hi In the PO created please select the Returns item & stock must be available. Do MIGO.
Regards Ram Edited by: Parasuram M on Sep 16, 2009 11:54 AM
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Bijay Kumar Barik

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Posted: Sep 16, 2009 8:30 AM to: Parasuram M in response
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Hi, For example if we procure a material like Impeller 100 quantity and we are procuring this material very rarely and we used 80 quantities in our industry and 20 no are in stock. If u have no use of that Impeller further (if you feel) and if u want to dispose them u have two options. 1. One is to sell it. 2. The other is to return to vendor if u have good terms with vendor. So at that time you can use 161MT. If you have to create return PO and then MIGO with return PO and with 161 MT, then quantity will reduce from your inventory. Note: 161MT : You can use this when you want to return some materials from our stock to vendor you can create a PO with returns check and you can return material . This has the same effect as the 122.But the difference is using 122 u can return the material against a PO. Using 161 u can return the material when ever u want while creating a PO. 122MT: You use 122 only if we do GR against a PO with 101 and if we want to return the material to vendor (what ever may be the reason like quality is not good , package condition is not good etc) with respect to the same PO. Regards, Biju K
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Re: return PO
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Hello, Pre requisites Vendor return Via return PO and delivery. 1. You must create a customer master record for the vendor and assign the same in vendor master Control view 2. In vendor master purchasing view flag the Returns Vendor check box. 3. Maintain shipping point determination (OVL2)
Vendor return whitout delivery via IM. Use movment types 122 Return delivery to supplier 124 Return delivery to vendor from GR blocked stock
161 Return for purchase order. If a purchase order item is marked as a returns item, the returns to vendor are posted using movement type 161 when the goods receipt for purchase order ( 101) is posted. Movement type 161 has the same effects as movement type 122. With regards, MM Smartforms:GoodsIssue Slip/Transfer Posting/Return Delivery/Physical Cou
Posted: Oct 27, 2009 12:36 PM
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MM Smartforms Hi Gurus, Can any one guide me on the smartforms related Material Management 1.Goods Issue slip 2.Transfer posting 3.Return Delivery 4.Physical counting
Request your inputs for the same. Regards S Abdul Hameed Pa...
Re: MM Smartforms:GoodsIssue Slip/Transfer Posting/Return Delivery/Physical Cou

Posted: Nov 10, 2009 9:04 AM in response
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Go to SPRO > Materials Management > Inventory Management and Physical Inventory > Output Determination This wizard will guide on setting up output related to inventory movements. Output type, access sequence and condition records play a vital role in determining and processing these outputs during transactions. Regarding smat forms you can find them in SPRO > Materials Management > Inventory Management and Physical Inventory > Output Determination > Assign Forms and Programs Thanks & regards Hameed Parvez
Ganesh Kumar Go...


Posted: Nov 10, 2009 9:37 AM to: Joan Jesudasan in response
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Hi Go to T.cdoe: NACE Select ME -Inventory management -click on output types check for the output types : WE01,WE02,WE 03 WA01,WA 02 &WA 03 1.Goods Issue slip2.Transfer posting3.Return Delivery --WE01 4.Physical counting Regards G.Ganesh Kumar
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Posted: Nov 10, 2009 9:41 AM to: Joan Jesudasan in response
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Hi Go to T.code: SE71 Press F4 click on materials management Check for all the forms related to MM and other modules
Regards G.Ganesh Kumar 122 Return Delivery

Posted: Sep 24, 2009 8:39 AM
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Dear all, My query is as follows PO MADE FOR 100 NOS GRN DONE :100 NOS Excise invoice posted: 100 nos MIRO:100 Nos Now we came to know that 20 nos are rejected . When i am tring to do return delivery 122 I am getting error as Deficit of PU IR quantity 2.000 EA.Do we have to cancel the IR
Pls provide your inputs Regards, Parasuram M
Re: 122 Return Delivery

Posted: Sep 24, 2009 8:42 AM to: sap rn in response
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Hi Check the stock is available in the storage location.

Regards ram
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Bijay Kumar Barik


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Hi, Reversion of entry of material purchase can be in entered on rejection of material partially or wholly. In this case, you will have to raise a debit note on the vendor. But before raising debit note, you have to first ensure that the Invoice verification of the material (to be rejected) is complete at the time of purchase. Purchase documents cannot be reversed directly like pure financial document entry. To reverse the material document, following procedure should be followed. 1) Create Return Delivery (MIGO) 2) Reverse the Excise Duty Posted (J1IS) 3) Raise the debit Note. (MIRO) Regards,
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Cancel the IR and then try.
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jrp jrp

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Dear sir. first you Do credit memo for 20 quantity in MIRO. go to MIRO select credit memo in MIRO give your PO no or Delivery number and change the quantity 20, and post the credit memo. the go to MIGO do the return delivery for 20 quantity. regards jrp
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Goods Return to Vendor

Posted: Nov 5, 2009 12:16 PM
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HI we had purchase one material, done PR, PO, GRIR 103 & 105, Invoice & payment to vendor. now we want to return the goods to vendor and want to take back cash. how to do this. thanks thomas
Tushar Patankar
Re: Goods Return to Vendor

Posted: Nov 5, 2009 12:19 PM to: James Thomas in response
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Hi, You can use movement type 122 and slove the issue. Also you need to create credit memo for the invoice raised.
Regards, Tushar Patankar
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Gururajan Achut...

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Hi , Choose retrun delivery option in MIGO and enter the matl document no and choose movement type 122 ( Normally it will defaut) or you can go for Return PO option . In me21n create like regulr PO
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with return tick . carry out GR with this PO and createcredit memo after MIGO. Pl reply A.Gururajan
samuel mendis

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Hi Did your Finance people paid the vendor already by menas of Chq or cash ro on line transfer ? If No... Then please follow the below. before proceeding ensure that you have the stock in inventory. 1.Start by cancelling the Invoice document - this will ensure the vendor outstandings getting reduced. 2.Tthen Use MIGO/122 for returning the material back to vendor
Regards Samuel
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hi If LIV and Payment to Vendor is done then 1. ME21N - Create a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item) 2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Unrestricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock) 3. J1IS Excise Invoice Other Movements Here click on create button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount. Here put all details as below and Press Enter. Ref.doc.type - MATD Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt Doc Year Series Group Excise Group Vendor Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on Save button to post the excise invoice. 4. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
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5. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Returns PO.
if the material is non excisable then plz omit the steps 3 and 4 regards kunal Ajit Tiwary

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Dear Firsl of all your return the migo with 122 movement type then after you raised the credit memo against that vendor. But if this goods carries excise value then other process is to be introduced. You also return the excise posting.
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vendor return through sales cycle

Posted: Oct 6, 2009 10:34 AM
hi sap gur's we want map senarios for vendor return with excise, my client have deeply cin implimented my leam lead told me vendore return map through sales cycle means return mat.doc through 122 than creat sales order,, delivery than billing but taking care no accounting document ganareted during sales cycle how i can map vendore return senario with excise revers in sales cycle thanks
pimple umesh
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Posted: Oct 6, 2009 11:51 AM to: pimple umesh in response
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hi any idea
msp

Posted: Oct 6, 2009 12:04 PM to: pimple umesh in response
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Hi, In case of 122 mov type Go to J1IS Transaction put the 122 material document & select MATD & create the excise invoice. Then take the print of the invoice in Tcode J1IV
jrp jrp

Posted: Oct 6, 2009 12:21 PM in response
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Dear sir. First in vendor master Purchasing Data, click Returns Vendor indicator. when u click the return vendor indicator system will pop up one window , give the account group and shipping Cond. system will automatically create the vendor and it will assign to the vendor and customer also. Go to MIGO select return delivery and give the material document number. in general header tab click the indicator Via delivery. and check and post, system will create the outbond delivery number. go to VL02n give the outbond delivery number and do the PGI. with respective outbond delivery number create the per-form billing in vf01. with respective bill number create the excise invoice in J1IIN. regards jrp
Returns order to Vendor with delivery

Posted: Oct 28, 2009 2:27 PM
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Hi, I am doing returns order to vendor with delivery. Shipping data has been determined during return order creation, but delivery is not getting created. Please guide me through this....
LindaSAP
Re: Returns order to Vendor with delivery

Posted: Oct 28, 2009 2:52 PM to: Amit Sharma1106 in response
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Hi, have been there before, couple of things need to check 1. maintain supplying plant as return plant IMG-Material Management-Purchasing-Purchase order- returns order-returns to vendor Here, make sure you've maintained Puurchasing Doc type as "NB" and Del,Type f. Retur as "RL" 2. add customer master data representing "return vendor" 3, checked "Return vendor" on the Purchasing segment for vendor 4 Assign vendor on customer master (under vendor master general data's control section)
Hope it will help
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Posted: Oct 28, 2009 3:45 PM to: LindaSAP in response
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Thanks for the response Linda. Whatever you specified was maintained earlier only. Still i am not able to create delivery.
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Does this has to do with transportation zones and routes also?. I was just wondering if we need these parameters also. Edited by: Amit Sharma1106 on Oct 28, 2009 3:46 PM
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Hi Amit Sharma1106 , You are welcome. We don't involve any transportation zones and routes in our case. When I go to Vl10b delivery due list, I just delete all the default selection, such as Deliv. Creation Date and Deliv. Creation Date. Then it will show. (check if table T184L was maintained with your specific item category) Hope it will work thanks, Linda Edited by: LindaSAP on Oct 28, 2009 4:51 PM
Amit Sharma1106

Posted: Nov 2, 2009 10:42 AM to: LindaSAP in response
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Hi Linda. We have a customized T code which is a copy of VL10B, but seems it creating some problem, I have asked the development team to debug it.
In the meanwhile delivery got created by using T code VL04. Thanks for your help Linda.. Hi , We have intercompany purchasing process which is working fine. But When I am trying to create the Return purchase order through ME21N and checked the line item box as Return for the same item ,getting an error message as follows ================================================================== No delivery type for returns processing assigned to item 00010 Message no. ME392 Diagnosis Shipping processing for a returns item is only possible if a delivery type for returns items has been defined. ================================================================== Note: The following config has been done . 1. The same vendor I,e Intercompany vendor created as Return vendor 2. Purchase Order -------- Return vendor , I have assigned as delivery type as NCR to supply plant 1000( The plant from where we are getting the Material through Inter company PO.) 3. Did I miss some config set up or master data set up ? Please help me
raghavendra sai
Re: Inter company return PO- Error

Posted: Oct 28, 2009 3:17 PM to: Dilip Choudhury in response
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Hi, please check the settings at spro-mm--purchsing--po--returns order-store return.
Dilip Choudhury

Posted: Oct 28, 2009 3:22 PM to: raghavendra sai in response
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Hi I assigned the delivery type NCR to store return. Still I am getting same message....... Thanks Edited by: Dilip Choudhury on Oct 28, 2009 10:37 AM Also note that I am not geeting any shipping information i,e shipping tab is not appearing after checking the line item as Retun item. Is some thing missing in config side ?
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Posted: Oct 28, 2009 4:57 PM to: Dilip Choudhury
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You will need to have all the settings for doing a forward PO to the returns also,if you are able to create the forward PO with your settings and able to do the delivery and PGI, these settings are suffient to do the return , with additional settings at store return with NCR as delivery type. but however please check the customer , and the settings at OMGN and the receiving plant customer set to be at supplying plant (normal forward PO notations). and please check the route id etc. If you are able to create a forward PO , then with NCR sctting you should get the return po too. please check the service market place , as there is a note for returns. the PO is for NB or for UB? Regards,
Dilip Choudhury

Posted: Oct 28, 2009 7:21 PM to: raghavendra sai in response
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Hi Sai Thanks, Now it is working ....... Now I need to know what are other transation we have to execute to send it back to supply plant Thanks
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Subsequent delivery but not in MIGO

Posted: Oct 20, 2009 6:08 PM
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Hello, I know that if you use GR based IV, you can use the subsequent delivery function in MIGO to link a second delivery (for example after making a return to vendor) to an existing invoice. What should you do if you use deliveries for goods receipts - is there an equivalent function then? If you can't link the delviery to an existing invoice, are there any disadvantages to having a goods receipt that is not linked to any invoice with GR based IV? Regards Richard Purpose & Net Value of Return PO - For Damaged or Recycled Material or both
Posted: Oct 12, 2009 5:33 AM
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Dear all As far as I know about the Return PO, they are summarized as follows:
Examples for returns for purchase order: . You procure filters from a vendor. You return the dirty filters to the vendor for recycling. . You have agreed with your cable vendors that you can return cable remnants to them. You then receive a credit memo for the value of the copper contained in the cables. This is always happen after we have posted Invoice Verification (MIRO) in the system and make the Outgoing Payment (F-53). Question 01: Does return PO cover both scenario such as (a)Return the damaged material to vendor which we discover its defect after invoice verification or post outgoing payment has been made? (b) Return the recycle material to vendor after invoice verification or post outgoing payment has been made? Question 02: We are using Info Record for the material. (a) In the case of Return the damaged material to vendor, the return PO will have the net value suggested from info record and it makes sense since we want our AP (account payable) to be reduced. (b) In the case of Return the recycle material to vendor, the return PO will have the net value suggested from info record but iit makes no sense as vendor will not agree to have the recycle material same price as the first purchase price. Please advise. Thanks. Edited by: Daimos on Oct 12, 2009 3:28 PM
raghavendra sai
Re: Purpose & Net Value of Return PO - For Damaged or Recycled Material or both
Posted: Oct 12, 2009 7:58 PM to: Daimos in response
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Hi, The return process generally two types. 1.Return the goods permanently (as you may do not require) for this you can create a return PO and post the return to the vendor with moment type 166. (Even though if you posted MIRO and cleared the document , with return PO you can post the credit memo.) 2.Return to vendor using moment type 122 wiith quality reasons ,and post again for the subsequent received material this can be done even the MIRO posted and cleared.
Q2: You are going to create the PO for the cables , and if there exists return vendor is going to return the copper amount ?is it not? Regards,
Daimos
Posted: Oct 13, 2009 7:43 AM to: raghavendra sai in response
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Dear Raghavendra Sai I think for your point 2 " Return to vendor using moment type 122 wiith quality reasons ,and post again for the subsequent received material this can be done even the MIRO posted and cleared.", once the invoice has been done but irreversable due to cross month, or the payment has been made, we should then choose to use Return PO. Alternatively, we can use OMBZ to allow a return to vendor, although a I.V. is already done but this will go against the purpose of auditing. My concern is that for the recycleable material, should we handle it using Return PO? And if such, we will need to alter the info record price suggested to be a smaller amount since it is recycleable. 1. The net value in the Return PO for recycle material = depreciated value 2. The net value in the Return PO for Damange Material = Same with Purchase Price. Are the above 2 statements correct? (Yes, vendor will pays me back the value of Copper inside cable.)
THanks Tushar Patankar
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Hi, Q-1 a) Return the damaged material to vendor which we discover its defect after invoice verification or post outgoing payment has been made? For damaged returns, you need to cancel the Gr Posted , movement type 102 and thenreturn it to vendor using movement type 122. So return P.o. function is not applicable here. b) Return the recycle material to vendor after invoice verification or post outgoing payment has been made? Yes , for recycled material as stated by you it is applicable. We use return purchase order, when purchase order is made. Here we tick the Returns indicator in the item overview of purchase order screen.Movement type for return indicaort is 161.
Also would like to add a example here; Q-2) In the case of Return the recycle material to vendor, the return PO will have the net value suggested from info record but iit makes no sense as vendor will not agree to have the recycle material same price as the first purchase price. Supopose you order a printer cartridges from your vendor for which you are creating retun P.O. then you must define top two material number one with full printer cartridges, for which you pay vendor and other material number for empty cartridges for which you create a credit memo when you return them.. So when here you can create a Purchasing info record for empty cartridges with a price agreed with your vendor, and can create a credit memo. So now you have two info records one for full filed cartridges and other one for empty cartridges . So price issue will ntoa rise. Regards, Tushar Patankar Edited by: Tushar Patankar on Oct 13, 2009 11:47 AM
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Dear Tushar Patankar Thanks for your explanation. I would like to rectify for your comment on Q1, I believe that once the outgoing payment has been made OR the invoice cannot be reversed due to cross month issue, I do not think we can cancel the GR posted using MVT 102 and then return to vendor using 122. That is why we have the return PO which is mainly used for invoice cannot be reversed and/OR Outgoing payment has been made. You can test out in the system that we cannot perform Return Delivery due to payment already done or Invoice already done. For your comment on Q2, are you suggesting that I create another material code for empty catridge? I do not know how can we have 2 different info record (with Type: Standard) for the same combination of material+Purchasing org+Plant+Vendor. Thanks
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Hi, If my understanding with your question is correct, you are going to return either the unused cable or damaged cable not the copper-correct? Are you going to return the cable after some usage or due to its damage afrer its use after the purchase is made? Regards,
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Hi, I agree that once the invoice is done you cannot reverse the Gr. Return Purchase order cannot be used to return damaged material to the vendor. Basically they are used, as you said to return the the recycled material, dirty filters and or empty cartridges whcih can be again reused after processing at vendors end. In this you and your vendor agree, as you are returning him the material which can be reused, refilled or recycled and can be delivered again. So you agree with him on the price of the used material which you will debit from his account. Return Purchase order have nothing to do with returning damaged purchase order. Also as your both filled cartridges and empty cartridges differ in properties so you have to use different material number /code for the material you are going to retrurn through return purchase order. You can create a Purchasing info record for a vendor material combination (new material as material number is different) . So the price to be debited will be different than you actaul purchase price which you maintained for your filled printer cartridges. Thanks
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If my understanding with your question is correct, you are going to return either the unused cable or damaged cable not the copper--correct? Yes, return the unused / damaged cable but not copper. Copper is just the
example I got it from SAP MM certification material. Are you going to return the cable after some usage or due to its damage afrer its use after the purchase is made? I am going to return the cable after some usage due to the fact it can be recycle AND also Damage is found only after the payment has been made after the 1st purchase is made. Daimos
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Dear Tushar Patankar The reason I use Return PO for Damaged/Defective Material discovered after payment made is that I cannot perform 122 return delivery. And I have been using Return PO for Defective Material discovered after payment done for years, and only this time I encountered the recycle material which catches my attention. I think your comment about creating different material code for emtpy cartridge does make sense and I am quite surprised that SAP material never mention it before. I am thinking for Recyclable Material, must we create Mat Code, and change the net value suggested from the info record to a lower value to save this return PO? What will be the impact from financial point of view. Thanks
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Hi, When you create a different material code for empty cartridges, while assigning G/L accounts use the same account which you use for filled cartridges, so that when you create return the material you account will get credited with actual purchase order price which you should pay to vendor and at the a same time it will get debited with the return price as agreed with vendor for used material. recycled material. So that you only need to pay the difference as the vendor account will show thw difference between them.
Also I would like too add that for return of damaged material to the vendor for which payment / Invoice has already been done. you can discuss with your vendor and go for free delivery for the same material as a replacement with movement type 511. This can be done in consultation with your vendor if he agrees to make the replacement. Thanks.
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Dear Tushar Patankar Thanks again for the quick reply. What you said about Damaged material discovered after Payment is done makes a lot of sense to me. However, we do not allow GR without PO here as a practice. That is why it leaves me no choice but to use Return PO. Do you feel that is a good practice under my situation?
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removal and change of the net price defaulted from the info record for the return item in the PO with the new copper price and postings ( miro credit memeo will take this price) can be a solution? Re: Purpose & Net Value of Return PO - For Damaged or Recycled Material or
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Hi, It is individual company's decision, I am really surprised as how you using return P.O. to return damaged material, for which payment is already made. Becuase to use retrun Purchase order facility , it should be done , when the purchase order was created. The only thing here can be done , is that you return damage material in the name of recycled or used material . But still, it makes no sense as you need pay to vendor for damaged material in the name of recycled material. If your vendor and you agree that material is damaged after payment, you can create a new purchase order and m,ark the free delivery indicator in the item overview of the purchase order, so that you will get the replacement for your damaged material and your account will be balanced as you get free replacement.
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Dear raghavendra sai I did think of this solution but we have the limitation that purchaser should not change the price of the material, thus it is a limitation to us in the case of return PO. I am thinking, should there be an user exit when it is return PO, the PO Net value can be changed?
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Hi, It is individual company's decision, I am really surprised as how you using return P.O. to return damaged material, for which payment is already made. Becuase to use retrun Purchase order facility , it should be done , when the purchase order was created. The only thing here can be done , is that you return damage material in the name of recycled or used material . But still, it makes no sense as you need pay to vendor for damaged material in the name of recycled material. If your vendor and you agree that material is damaged after payment, you can create a new purchase order and m,ark the free delivery indicator in the item overview of the purchase order, so that you will get the replacement for your damaged material and your account will be balanced as you get free replacement.
Dear All. In vendor return process. system is allowing to create more excise invoice for the same material document. In J1IS i am giving the 122 mvt material document and i am creating the excise invoice for the vendor . for the same material document again it is allowing to create the excise invoice (Multiple excise invoice is allowing to create the same return document). system is not displaying any warning and error message. i checked it should tiger message no: 8I595, i have done the message setting also then also it is not displaying what mite be the region. please look into the issue.
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Dear All. Any SAP Note to be applied for the same. because system is allowing to create multiple excise invoice for the same 122 material document. regards jrp
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ha it is working fine. thanks
Dear All. In vendor return process. system is allowing to create more excise invoice for the same material document. In J1IS i am giving the 122 mvt material document and i am creating the excise invoice for the vendor . for the same material document again it is allowing to create the excise invoice (Multiple excise invoice is allowing to create the same return document). system is not displaying any warning and error message. i checked it should tiger message no: 8I595, i have done the message setting also then also it is not displaying what mite be the region. please look into the issue. regards jrp
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We are utilizing vendor returns with delivery (movement 161) and for business reasons we purchase material from Vendor A, address 1 but may return material Vendor A, address 1, address 2, or address 3 depending on their instruction to us. For awhile we have been utilizing the Delivery Address tab and maintaining address records in MEAN transaction, however that is no longer sufficient for our business. We are trying to accomplish this task now through the use of 1 of the following options. Can anyone think of consequences of doing each of these? Or are there other ideas someone might have? 1) Write a copy control requirement that changes the ship-to address on the RL delivery type from the SH partner (which is the customer assigned in the purchasing view of the vendor master next to the Returns Vendor checkbox) to the GS partner from the PO. a. Were not sure if this will even work, but with this option, we feel it allows us to control the shipto location from the RTV purchase order. b. This option will also allow us to continue any vendor reporting off of the VN partner (ME80FN, MCE3, etc). 2) Create multiple VN vendor master records, each with the Returns Vendor checkbox and their own customer master. Link all VNs through the same PI partner (for financial transactions). Enter RTV purchase orders based on the VN vendor master that contains the correct ship-to address.
a.This option will work, but for reporting (ME80FN, MCE3, etc) we would have to create variants that include all of the VNs that are linked together through partner determination to make sure we are capturing all volume associated with that vendor (purchases and returns). These reports dont give a standard option to just report off of a PI partner. b.There is human interaction needed to update variants each time a new VN is partnered. i. Does anyone know of a way to update a variant dynamically based on a new partner relationship? Gina Feldner Vendor return with CIN
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Dear friends, Can you please share me your experiences of Vendor returns using CIN in SAP. My requirement is i have the trading goods at my depot purchased from local vendor, Assume that we purchased 10000KGs and did the J1IG for this 10,000Kgs. out of this 10,000Kgs i already sold 4000Kg to my customer. Now due to what ever reason i need to return the remaining 6000Kg to vendor. The most importatn point here is i need to print the excise invoice for this 6000Kgs Can you guys share with me how you are handling this scenario. Thanks in advance SUN.
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Hi You could folloe the following steps 1) Create a Return PO 2) Perform GR against the return PO 3) Create a Outgoin excise Invoice through J1IS 4)Post/Print the excise invoice through J1IV 5)Perform MIRO( Credit memo) iff you have already booked the Invoice This step would reduce the payables and also perform VAT accounting Regards Sandeep
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Dear Sandeep, Thanks alot for your reply, where as i am getting the error "Excise modvat accounts not defined for GRPO transaction and 05 excise group" Can you please specify how can i rectify this error ? with J1IS will the stock from RG23D get reduced??
Thanks in advance!! SUN.

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hi check SPRo>Logistics - General>Tax on Goods Movements>India>Account Determination>Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction here check that u have given proper acct also check the plant u have gievn and excise grp for ur actual question follow following 1. ME21N - Create a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item) 2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Unrestricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock) 3. J1IS Excise Invoice Other Movements Here click on create button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount. Here put all details as below and Press Enter. Ref.doc.type - MATD Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt Doc Year Series Group Excise Group Vendor Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on Save button to post the excise invoice. 4. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice. 5. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Returns PO. accounting entries will be as follows At the time of GR (MIGO); Stock A/c - Dr GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr Excise Invoice Posting (J1IEX); CENVAT Receivable A/c - Dr CENVAT Clearing A/c - Cr At the time of LIV (MIRO);
Vendor A/c - Cr GR/IR Clearing A/c - Dr CENVAT Clearing A/c - Dr At the time of Vendor Return (MIGO); Stock A/c - Cr GR/IR Clearing A/c - Dr Excise Invoice for Vendor Return (J1IS & J1IV); CENVAT Receivable A/c - Cr CENVAT Clearing A/c - Dr At the time of Credit Memo (MIRO); Vendor A/c - Dr GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr CENVAT Clearing A/c - Cr
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Hi Kinldy maintain the account determination for Excise posting in the path given below 1)Spro-Logisitcs general- Taxes on goods movement -India - account determination-Specify Excise account account for Excise transaction 2)Spro-Logisitcs general- Taxes on goods movement -India - account determination-Specify G/L account account for Excise Transaction Here u need to maintain the respective G/L accounts for the following ETT against your Excise group 57CM 57F CHALLAN COMPLETION 57FC 57F CHALLAN CAPTURE/CHANGE 57NR 57F NON RECEIPT ARE1 EXPORT PROCESSING UNDER ARE1 ARE3 DEEMED EXPORTS UNDER ARE3 CAGI CAPITAL GOODS ISSUES CAPE CAPITAL GOODS CEIV CANCELLATION OF EXCISE INVOICE DIEX DIFFERENTIAL EXCISE THROUGH JV DLFC GOODS REMOVAL THROUGH SALES EWPO EXCISE INVOICE WITHOUT PO GRPO EXCISE INVOICE FOR GOODS RECEIPT/PO MRDY REVERSAL WITHOUT REFERENCE MRRD REVERSAL INCASE OF COMSUMPTION OTHER THAN PRODUCTI MRWO CENVAT REVERSALS FOR WRITE OFF OTHR EXCISE INVOICE FOR OTHER MOVEMENTS TR6C PLA ACCOUNT ADJUSTMENT THROUGH UTLZ FORTNIGHTLY PAYMENTS Regards
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Posted: Oct 29, 2009 9:56 AM to: sandeep13 in response
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Dear Sandeep, My Initial question is purely related to Depot(Warehouse), as far as i know there will not be any excise accounting entries for depot. Because there will not be any value addition at depot but only passing the excise values thus no accounting documents will get generate for depot transactions. I dont see any RG23D field in excise account assignment tale. SUN.
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Hi Kunal, Your steps is relating to vendor returns at MFG location but i am looking for the process of Depot vendor return. In my company there were no G/L accounts assigned to depot excise groups, i am not sure whether it is quite general or only we are following this approach. Thank you. SUN
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hi check out following

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Posted: Dec 11, 2009 5:53 AM to: SAP Learner in response
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Hi, Even the below thread is not helpful, as they are saying to use sales return but i dont think it is a wise approach. As it will will effect the sales revenue and my user mentioned there is a legal complication as well that the vendor should be registered for special licence to buy the materials. SUN.
unplanned delivery and planned delivery table

Posted: Sep 25, 2009 9:06 AM
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hi, may i know if i book unplanned delivery cost or planned delivery cost in miro, may i know which table i can refer to?
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Hi Plz check MKPF/BKPF table for uplanned delivery cost. Cheers Rahul
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Hi, Please check the table RBKP also.it is invoice header table.
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Hi You can book planned delivery cost in the PO not in the MIRO. In MIRO you can book the Unplanned delivery cost check the table RBKP Thanks/karthik
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hi, i know that planned is book in PO. for unplanned i can refer to table as per suggested above. for planned, how can i know in table that the miro is posting for planned delivery cost? thanks rgds
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Hi,
this is simple. if you are going to pay the planned delivery cost then you have maintained those in PO. so to know if its a planned delivery cost you just need to list out the freight/delivery condition types in your pricing schema. regards, Adwait Bachuwar
Ask_que

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hi, may i know which table i can check the planned delivery cost at PO? thanks rgds
Pramodkumar.J.M...

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Dear Friend, Planned delivery cost will store in a EKPO table for that you has to maintain the Subtotals in pricing procedure at time only this table will update Regards Pramod

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