TheUltimateSecretofFreeEnergy: SplitthePositiveANDNegative

August26,2010 lamare Senior Member Theultimatesecretoffreeenergy:SplitthepostiveANDthenegative JoinDate:Oct2008 Posts:473

Welcome,myfriend. Youareherebecauseyouchosetobehere,bywhateverreason.Good!

Apparantly,youarelookingforsomeanswers.So,hereyougottamakeachoice. Ifyouwanttoknowthetheoreticfoundationtohowthisstuffworks,gohere: Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki Ifyouwanttogetyourhandsdirtyandgetsomethingworking,thengostraighttothejackpot,andfind yourwayfromehere: GrayTubeReplication StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis. StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis. GrayTubeReplication Butdon'texpectacompleteschematicorworkingprototypemadebyme,oranythinglikethat.Yousee, I'mjustnotgoodatdoingthat.ButIdidmyhomeworkandyoucanfollowmytrackshereandcheck everythingyourself.So,asaqualifiedElectricalEngineer,IhaveanalysedthisstuffandIamfully convincedIfoundtheworkingprinciple.So,thatwouldbethesecretofGray,MeyerandPuharich, whichoriginallycamefromnonelessthanNikolaTesla.Quiteagift,butitisnotmyinventionor anything.BecauseofmybackgroundIwassimplyabletofinallyputthepiecesofthepuzzletogether, sowenowknowhowthisstuffissupposedtowork,inprinciple.It'suptohumanitytomakeuseofthat andyoucandothatanywayyoulike.Nostringsattached,nonewpatents.However,thenowexpired patentsandotherinformationlefttousbythesethreeinventorsgiveyoualltheinformationyouneedto fillinthegaps. So,ifyou'reintothehardwareandwanttomakeTesla'sdreamcometrue,thelinksontopiswhereyou wannago.

However,ifyouwanttoknowwhyEinstein'sGeneralRelativityshouldgotothetrashcan,what gravityis,orwanttoknowwhattheUniversereallyislike,you'rewelcometojoininforavery interestingride.Ifyouareinforanadventure,justscrolldown,andjoininonthisthreadtogetherwith theothersthatarehere.Therealreadyaresomeniceeastereggstodiscover,andjustlikeyou,Ihaveno ideawherethiswilleventuallygo.Wewilljusthavetowaitandseewhathappens. So,thechoiceisyours.Andofcourse,youcanalsoleaverightaway,ifyoulike. WhatIpostedhere,isreallywhatIthinkisthetruth.However,thatismytruththewayIsee/sawitat themomentofpostingandasyouwillsee,my"truth"changesalongmywaywheneverIfind somethingnewtoaccountfor.Andthat'salsomymotivationfordoingthis.Ijustwanttoknowthe truth,whichislikeanoniun.There'salwayssomethingnewtodiscover,whichmaybejustwhatmakes lifeworthwhile.So,takenothingforgranted.Icannotdecideforyouwhatyourtruthislike.That's completelyuptoyoutodecide,becausewehaveallbeengiventhefreedomofchoice.So,justgoahead andseewhatyoulikeandwhatnot. Andmostofall:makesureyouhavesomefunonwhateverroadyouchoosetogo! Ifyou'recurious:thiswouldbemyideaofhavingsomefun: Thehackrealityhowto Haveaniceday,andhappyhuntingforyourtruth!

ArendLammertinkSeptember1st,2010. Oh,onemorething.Ifyouwanttodosomethingandhavesometimetospare,pleasedoconsider editingthispage: Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki So,ifyoureallywanttofollowmytrack,thisiswhere/howthingsstartedtocomeintherightdirection, buttherewerestillquitesomelooseendsandmistakes: :August26th,2010: Hiall, Yesterday,IreanalysedGray'ssystem: ResonatingTFusingBedinicircuit Asyoucanseeinthereducedschematic(http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ay_circuit.pdf)he feedsHF,HVsharpspikestroughtwocapacitorstothecoiltoenergize.Becauseoftheshapeofthe

spike(fastrisingedge,slowfallingedge),thecapacitorbasicallyfunctionsasadiode,besidecoupling theenergytroughtotheloadcircuits. ThenIrealizedthatyouneedtohavetwoidenticalcoilsinseriesifyoueverwanttobeabletoinducea useableforceinthecoils,becauseotherwisethepulseswillcanceleachotherout. Sofar,sogood. Continueinginthislineofthinking,theAvramenkoplugusedbyDr.Stifflercametomind.Ifweadd thisallup,wefinallygettheultimatesecrettofree(electric)energy: SplitthepositiveANDthenegative GivenBearden's"don'tkillthedipole"asexplainedinmyarticle(underconstruction)Article:Free ElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWikiitisclearthatintermsofenergy,youcan manipulatetheelectricfieldforfree.So,ifyouatsomepointinacircuitareabletopickuptheelectric field,withoutdrawingcurrent,youcandothatforfree. Thatmeansifyoudesignyourloadsuchthatitiscompletelybalanced,youcandowhatGrayditmuch moreelegantly.AsStifflershowsinsomeofhisexperiments,theAV(Avramenko)plugisaperfect methodof"splittingthepositiveandthenegative"inGray'sterms.So,thenyoubasicallygettouse bothedgesofthepoweringsignal,albeitthatyouhavedodirectthemtoseparateloads. Puttingallthistogether,itisamatteroffeedingahighfrequencypulsetraintroughanAVplug,trough (small)couplecapacitorstotheoppozingterminalsof4identicalimpedances,whichcanbecoils, capacitors,basicallyanything,includingWFCelements.Seetheattachedschematic. WhathappensisthatthepositiveedgegetsfedtroughthecapacitorstothepositiveterminalsofZ1and Z2insyncandthenegativeedgegetsfedtroughthecapacitorstothenegativeterminalsofZ3andZ4 insync.HencesplittingthepositiveANDthenegative. IfZxareallpowercoilswithaselfresonancefrequencyofsay5kHzandthefrequencyofthepulses is,say1MHz,andthevoltageofthepulsetrainis,say1V,thatmeansyouget1kVofrealpowerat thepositiveterminalsofZ1andZ2within1millisecond,withoutdrawinganycurrentfromthe "power"line,becauseittakesrelativelyaconsiderableamountoftimebeforethepulsescantravel troughthecoil,sowegetasortof"stepcharging"effectinsidethecoils. So,ifyouwanttoexperimentwiththis:BECAREFUL.Thisisanexpansionofthebasicprinciple Grayusedandhedidaddhis"safetysparkgaps"forareason.Ifyoufeed10MHz,10Vpulsesto4 identicalcoilsthisway,youarelookingat100kVworthofpowerwithin1miillesecond...Inother words:thisgivesyouanawesomeamountofpower!!!

Update:Ithinktheprinciplecanalsobeusedatmuchlowerfrequenciesifyouconnectthenegative terminalsofZ1andZ2andthepositiveterminalsofZ3andZ4alltosignalground.Afterall,thenet currentgoingtroughthereiszero,asisthenetcurrentcomingfromthesignalwire(whichiswhythis works).Thenyoushouldbeabletogetresultswithrelativelylowfrequencies,likeseveralkHzforcoils oreven10sofHzforchargingcapacitorsorbatteries.Whatisimportantisthatallimpedancesarethe same.Useidenticalcomponentsforallofthem. Update2:There'sacoupleofinconsistencesinthispost,butthebasicprincipeiscorrect.Turnsoutthat Z1andZ2cannotbecapacitors.So,justreadon,investigatethematerial,thelinks,etc.andyouwill notbedisappointed. Update3:TurnsouttherewerequiteafewlooseendsinwhatIpostedhere.So,ifyouwanttogo straighttothejackpot,gohere: StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis. StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis. AttachedFiles Splitting_pos_and_neg.pdf(159.3KB,177views)

August26,2010 lamare Senior Member Quote: JoinDate:Oct2008 Posts:473

OriginallyPostedbyAromaz @Lamare; Idonotthinkyouwillget'freeenergy'butcertainlyyougrabbedontoainterestingconcept. I'llbetyouforoneofthesethatthisistherealthing: Everythingaddsup.Nocurrentgoinginandout,sonokillingofthedipoleasBeardensays.Itmatches exactlywhatGrayhasdone,whichappearsnoonehasreallyunderstood.Thisjusthastobeit. AsIsaid,youcanpickupacrateofGrolschatmyplaceifthisdoesnotworkasIexplain.NowIknow thiswillbehardtograspifyou'vebeenbombardedwith"perpetuummobileisimpossible",butthisis notaperpetuummobile.Itissimplyadifferentkindofsolarcellthatusesnotthelightofthesunbut thelightemittedbychargecarriers:theelectricfield,thewheelworkofnatureasTeslasaidin1892 (!!): "ExperimentswithAlternateCurrentsofHighPotentialandHighFrequency" Quote:

ThereisnodoubtthatwiththeenormouspotentialsobtainablebytheUseofhighfrequenciesandoil insulationluminousdischargesmightbepassedthroughmanymilesofrarefiedair,andthat,bythus directingtheenergyofmanyhundredsorthousandsofhorsepower,motorsorlampsmightbe operatedatconsiderabledistancesfromstationarysources.Butsuchschemesarementionedmerely aspossibilities.Weshallhavenoneedtotransmitpoweratall.Eremanygenerationspass,our machinerywillbedrivenbyapowerobtainableatanypointoftheuniverse.Thisideaisnot novel.Menhavebeenledtoitlongagobyinstinctorreason;ithasbeenexpressedinmanyways, andinmanyplaces,inthehistoryofoldandnew.WefinditinthedelightfulmythofAntheus [Antaeus],whoderivespowerfromtheearth;wefinditamongthesubtlespeculationsofoneofyour splendidmathematiciansandinmanyhintsandstatementsofthinkersofthepresenttime. Throughoutspacethereisenergy.Isthisenergystaticorkinetic!Ifstaticourhopesareinvain;if kineticandthisweknowitis,forcertainthenitisamerequestionoftimewhenmenwill succeedinattachingtheirmachinerytotheverywheelworkofnature. Well,thistimehasfinallycome. Fastenyourseatbelts,folks,causeweareinforaveryinterstingride!

August26,2010 DrStiffler Senior Member @lamare JoinDate:Mar2009 Posts:687

Forthesakeofthosethatwouldattempttotrythecircuityoupostedandnotasversedin electronics(arts)asyouare,mayIaddafewcaveats? Yourdiodesstillneedtobefast,evenifyouattemptthisinthekHzrange. ThecouplingcapsifyouworkwithoverafewvoltsneedtobeHVcapsinthekVrange. YoualsoneedtonotonlyhavehiQcoils,butmustconsiderthemutualinductancebetweeneach andthematchingpair. Alsoonemustnotworkclosetoyourexpensivetestgearunlessyouarereadytopurchasenew. Iwillwatchthisabitandmaybepostalinktoacircuitthatwillofferlayoutetc.,forworkingin thisdirection.

August26,2010 lamare Senior Member Quote: OriginallyPostedbyDrStiffler @lamare Forthesakeofthosethatwouldattempttotrythecircuityoupostedandnotasversedinelectronics (arts)asyouare,mayIaddafewcaveats? Yourdiodesstillneedtobefast,evenifyouattemptthisinthekHzrange. ThecouplingcapsifyouworkwithoverafewvoltsneedtobeHVcapsinthekVrange. YoualsoneedtonotonlyhavehiQcoils,butmustconsiderthemutualinductancebetweeneachand thematchingpair. Alsoonemustnotworkclosetoyourexpensivetestgearunlessyouarereadytopurchasenew. Iwillwatchthisabitandmaybepostalinktoacircuitthatwillofferlayoutetc.,forworkinginthis direction. @Doc:Greattoseeyouhere! I'mafraidIhavetodisagree,though.Theworkingprinciplehasnothingtodowiththeoperating frequency.Itcomesdowntothefactthatyouoperateyourloadtroughonewire,suchthatnonet currentflowstroughthatonewire. Thefactthatyouhavetoconnectthe'inactive'terminalsofyourloadalltoframegroundinorder todriveadecentcurrenttroughtheloadatlowfrequencydoesnotchangeonethinginthe principle. JoinDate:Oct2008 Posts:473

August26,2010 DrStiffler Senior Member Quote: OriginallyPostedbylamare JoinDate:Mar2009 Posts:687

@Doc:Greattoseeyouhere! I'mafraidIhavetodisagree,though.Theworkingprinciplehasnothingtodowiththeoperating frequency.Itcomesdowntothefactthatyouoperateyourloadtroughonewire,suchthatnonet currentflowstroughthatonewire. Thefactthatyouhavetoconnectthe'inactive'terminalsofyourloadalltoframegroundinorderto driveadecentcurrenttroughtheloadatlowfrequencydoesnotchangeonethingintheprinciple. @lamare Whatisthesayingthatthereisanumberofwaystocutfishorsomethinglikethat... Wellhereisatestjigsimilartowhatyouspeak,maybenot...anywayitshowsanumberof importantpointsinourapproachwhenworkingwithit. http://67.76.235.52/images/lamare01.jpg

Augst26,2010 lamare Senior Member Quote: OriginallyPostedbyDrStiffler @lamare Whatisthesayingthatthereisanumberofwaystocutfishorsomethinglikethat... Wellhereisatestjigsimilartowhatyouspeak,maybenot...anywayitshowsanumberofimportant pointsinourapproachwhenworkingwithit. http://67.76.235.52/images/lamare01.jpg Fromthepictureisabithardtojudgehowthecoilsareexactlywound.FromwhatIsee,itlooks likeregularcoilswoundonaflatpieceofperspex. Ifyouwanttodoitlikethat,I'dsayyou'dhavetousebifilarwoundcoilsanddrivebothwindings fromthesamesidesothefieldsaddup,oratleastplacethecouplessidebysideinsteadof oppozingoneanother.Thewayyouhavethemwoundnow,thefieldswillinfluenceoneanother inawaythatyoucannotreallycontrol.Further,I'dmakesurethatyoudrivetheotherpairfrom theotherside,suchthatallfieldspointinthesamedirection. JoinDate:Oct2008 Posts:473

Then,ifyouwanttodrivesomething,Isuggestyoumakeathirdwinding,soyougeta transformer.Youcanusethesesecondariesinprincipleinseriesorinparallel,butyou'reusing HF,sothatmaybecomeabitofaproblem.Butyou'retheHFexperthere,sothatwouldbeyour problem So,perhapsit'smucheasiertodrivetwoloads.Aslongasyoumakesuretheloadatbothcoils match,itshouldwork.

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OriginallyPostedbylamare Fromthepictureisabithardtojudgehowthecoilsareexactlywound.FromwhatIsee,itlookslike regularcoilswoundonaflatpieceofperspex. Ifyouwanttodoitlikethat,I'dsayyou'dhavetousebifilarwoundcoilsanddrivebothwindings fromthesamesidesothefieldsaddup,oratleastplacethecouplessidebysideinsteadofoppozing oneanother.Thewayyouhavethemwoundnow,thefieldswillinfluenceoneanotherinawaythat youcannotreallycontrol.Further,I'dmakesurethatyoudrivetheotherpairfromtheotherside, suchthatallfieldspointinthesamedirection. Then,ifyouwanttodrivesomething,Isuggestyoumakeathirdwinding,soyougetatransformer. Youcanusethesesecondariesinprincipleinseriesorinparallel,butyou'reusingHF,sothatmay becomeabitofaproblem.Butyou'retheHFexperthere,sothatwouldbeyourproblem So,perhapsit'smucheasiertodrivetwoloads.Aslongasyoumakesuretheloadatbothcoils match,itshouldwork. @lamare YouarecorrectontheimageIwasshowingonthecoilsandtheinteractions,thisgoeswiththe pointsIpresented,yetitshowswhenoneworkswithsuchaconfigurationwhatfactorsaffect overallfunctionality. ItdoesindeedappearwearegoingindifferentdirectionsandIwillstandasideuntilyouhave hadachancetofurtheryourworkandsupplysomefindings. Ifyouwanttoseesomethingclosertowhatyouspeaktakealookatthis, http://67.76.235.52/images/lamare02.jpg

Greatidea,waitingforyourresults.

August26,2010 lamare Senior Member We'llsee.I'vegotkidstotakecareoffirst. JoinDate:Oct2008 Posts:473

OnethingIwantedtosay:I'mreallyimpressedbywhatyoudidsofar.Itcomesdamnclosetowhat Graydid,whichoriginatesfromTesla,ifI'mnotmistaken.So,GraywashelpedandIjuststudiedwhat hedid. Butyougotthereallbyyouself. __________________

August26,2010 JoinDate:Oct2008 lamare Posts:473 Senior Member Ihavedonesomeexperiments.Ifirstmadeafullcircuitwith1000uFcapacitorsasZ14and220nF capacitorsasthecouplecapsandfedthatwiththeoutputofa555.Thefirstthingthatcameupwasthat ofcoursethenegativehalfwouldn'tdoathing,becausethatwasalreadyatframeground. ThenIcontinuedwithjusttheupperhalf.Whathappenedwasthatthecouplecapswouldchargeand thatwastheendofit. Lookslikeitwon'tflywithcapacitorsasloadandthatyoudoneedHF,thatis:fastswitchingtimes. So,@Doc:Istandcorrectedonthisone.. Asforthecoils:Graydidthiswithcoilsinsidemotors....

WonderwhatwouldhappenifItakecapacitorsasloadandcouplingcoilsinsteadofcouplingcaps.

Niceproblemtodreamabouttonight

August26,2010 lamare Senior Member Iamlosingsleepoverthis... JoinDate:Oct2008 Posts:473

IthinkZ1Z4willhavetobecoilsafterall,andtheywillhavetobedrivenattheirnaturalresonance frequency.SotheHFmustbemodulatedsuchthatitdrivesthecoilsina5050dutycycle,sinceifwe usediodesto"splitthepositive"wecannotreversethepulsepolarityduringoperation. WhenI'mthinkingHF,I'mthinking:SEC. So,@Doc: CantheSECbeeasilymodified,soitcanbeswitchedonandoffwithafrequencysomewherebetween 110kHz? Canitstartfastenoughtobeofanyuse? Canyougivemesomesuggestionsaboutwhattypeofdiodeswouldbebest?

August26,2010 DrStiffler Senior Member Quote: OriginallyPostedbylamare Iamlosingsleepoverthis... IthinkZ1Z4willhavetobecoilsafterall,andtheywillhavetobedrivenattheirnaturalresonance frequency.SotheHFmustbemodulatedsuchthatitdrivesthecoilsina5050dutycycle,sinceifwe usediodesto"splitthepositive"wecannotreversethepulsepolarityduringoperation. WhenI'mthinkingHF,I'mthinking:SEC. So,@Doc: CantheSECbeeasilymodified,soitcanbeswitchedonandoffwithafrequencysomewhere between110kHz? JoinDate:Mar2009 Posts:687

Canitstartfastenoughtobeofanyuse? Canyougivemesomesuggestionsaboutwhattypeofdiodeswouldbebest? @lamare LetmecorrectsomethingatthispointasIhavebeentryingtodoitforsometimeanditisnot takingwell.SECisaprocessandnotadevice,SpatialEnergyCoherenceandtheprimarydevice IdevelopedisanExciterwhichinvokesSEC.SeemslikeeveryoneismakingSECdevices,and ofcoursesuchathingdoesnotexist,yettheyclaimso.Nowwiththatoutoftheway... WhymightyouwanttoworkinsuchalowareaofthespectrumwhentheLatticehasarelaxation timeintheTeraHertzrange?Whenworkingatthehigherendofthespectrumthecomponent bulkandfootprintisofcoursemuchsmallerandtheconversiondowntousableenergyisnota concernastheCoherencecanbeobtainedwithoutthisinmind. NowagainwhymightyoufeelthatthegoodoldAVPlugwillnotworkhere?Oneofthefirst thingsIlookatinapotentialcircuitmustincludehowIwillextracttheenergyinaload.Thisis allpartoftheoverallsystem.Many,manypeoplefailwhentheylookonlyatthegeneratorand thenfailbigtimewhentheycannotinterfaceintoaload.Soyouneedtolookatyourideawith theloadmethodincluded,thiswillclearupsomeofthedetailsofthegenerator. WellyeswedrivecircuitswithExciters,inthe300500MHzrange,evenDEBisdrivenby tandemExcitersandcanreachveryhighnumberswithafewwattsinput. LookingattheLatticetakesadifferentmindset,theoldreactionequalsanequalandopposite reaction,minusheatdoesnotapplyhere.YoumustconsidertheLatticetobeaParametric Mediumandyoucanpumpittohighlevelsjustbynudgingitinthecorrectway. IseethatthiscanturnintoATeslathing,whichallknowwhatIthink..... Anyway,itsnotfarfromwhatyouarelookingat.MyproblemisthatDEBisarealproblemchild astheemissionis,wellsomethingnottotalkaboutwhenalltheworldwatches,hellitmaycause metobehauledofftosomesecretFEMACamp. Edit: ApictureofaworkingDEBhttp://67.76.235.52/images/deb00.jpg

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@Doc:Ishouldn'tworrytoomuchabouthowtheenergyisbeingcohered.Energyisbeingcoheredall thetime.Wejustnevernoticeditdoessoeverytimewe"discharge"acapacitor.Seemyarticle: Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki Quote: ThereisanessentialdifferencebetweentheNewtoniananalogyweuseinelectricalengineering (closedcircuits)andtheactualreality.Theanalogyofacapacitorinhydraulics(Newtoniananalogy) isapistonmovingbackandforthinaclosedcylinderwhereingasispressurized.Thereisan essentialdifference,however.Imaginemovingthepistoninwards,pressurizingthegas,andputthe thingonyourworkbench.Thepistonwillimmediatelymoveback,becauseofthegaspressure.Now chargeacapacitorandputitonyourworkbench.Seethedifference?Thecapacitorwilljustsitthere, keepingit'scharge.Inotherwords:ourhydraulicanalogyisunstable,it'wants'toreleaseit'senergy, whileouractualelectricalcomponentisstablewhen'pressurized'.Itwillonly'release'it'senergy whensomethingexternalisbeingdone.Ithastobedisturbed,becausethechargesinacapacitor actuallyattractoneanother,whichmakesthemliketostaywheretheyare.So,when'discharging'a capacitor,asamatteroffact,theseattractionforceshavetobeovercome.Andthatdoesnotrelease energyatall,itcostsenergytodothat.So,itactuallytakesthesameamountofenergytochargea capacitorastheamountofenergyittakestodischargethecapacitor. [...] Anychargecontinouslyemitsanenergyfield,anelectricfield,spreadingwiththespeedoflight, whichistherealenergysourcethatmakesourcircuitsrun.Thisenergyfield,generatedbythe chargesinourwires,isnotcreatedoutofthinair.Sincethereisacontinuousflowofenergyoutof everycharge,therealsoisacontinuousflowofenergygoingintoeverycharge.Andthatiswherethe energyeventuallycomesfrom,rightfromthevacuumitself.Forourpurposes,itdoesn'treallymatter howtheenergythatendsupintheelectricfieldisbeingtakenoutofthevacuum.ItmaybeZPE,it maybea"virtualparticalflux",itmaybeanything.Itdoesn'tmatter,becausewedon'tneedtoknow. Allweneedtoknowisthatsomehow,someformofenergyflowsintoeachandeverychargeinthe universeandthisenergyflowiscontinuouslyconvertedintoanoutflowingelectricenergyfieldby eachandeverychargeintheuniverse,27/7,365daysayear,forfree. @All, TakealookatwhatIpostedhere: StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis. Seethesimilaritiesandtheparallels? Meyerbasicallytriedtousefastswitchingpulses,highbandwidth,eventhoughhegothis balancingwrong.ThisisinawaysimilartowhatyoudowiththeSECcircuit,ifIunderstand thisright.However,coilsarebasicallycurrentdriven,soifyouwanttodriveacoilusingvoltage pulsestroughcouplingcaps,Docisright:youneedfastswitchingandaveryhighbandwidth. NowtakealookathowPuharichdoesit. YoubasicallyhaveanAMmodulatedsignal,wherehedoesthehalfwaverectificationatthe

front. However,ifyouwouldusetwoAVplugsattheback,anddrivetwosetsofidenticalcoilsthis way,youshouldbeabletobasicallyconstructasortofdualAMreceiver,withouttheneedfor fastswitching.Ithinkthatwouldbemuchmoreelegant...

August27,2010 lamare Senior Member Quote: OriginallyPostedbyDrStiffler WhymightyouwanttoworkinsuchalowareaofthespectrumwhentheLatticehasarelaxation timeintheTeraHertzrange?Whenworkingatthehigherendofthespectrumthecomponentbulk andfootprintisofcoursemuchsmallerandtheconversiondowntousableenergyisnotaconcern astheCoherencecanbeobtainedwithoutthisinmind. @Doc:Takealookatthis: MITDissectibleCapacitor Ifeveryballintheupperpictureisapieceofmatter,alocalizedelectromagneticwave,andtheseare insidesomekindoflatticeasdepictedinthelowerpicture,thenyoucanalwaysfindahigher"octave" whereyougetthesamepictureagain.Inotherwords:thelatticemustberecursive,it'safractal... So,ifwehaveanether,whichhasmatterlikecharactistics(fluid,gas)andwe*know*thatthematter weknowarelocalizedEMwaves,thenitisnothardtopostulatethatthe"elemental"particlesofwhich theetherconsistswouldbeverysimilarandwouldalsobelocalizedEMwaves. Basically,justamatterofraisingthefrequency,right? Makesyouwonder:WorldTopSecret:OurEarthIsHollow!:Welcome Update: JoinDate:Oct2008 Posts:473

ItsuddenlyseemstemptingtorephraseTesla: Quote: ThroughoutspacethereisTheLattice.IsthisLatticestaticorkinetic!Ifstaticourhopesareinvain; ifkineticandthisweknowitis,forcertainthenitisamerequestionoftimewhenmenwill succeedinattachingtheirmachinerytotheverywheelworkofnature. ItseemslogicaltothinkoftheLatticeasbeingfluidlike,sincethatiswhatweknowtheetheris like.Ifthey'rereallythesamething,thenthelatticewouldbedynamic.Atsomeplaces,itwould bemorelikeagas,atsomeplaces,itwouldbemorelikealiquid....Andifthatwouldreallybe thecase,thenyouwouldreallyhaveahardtimemaintainingthatthespeedoflightisfixed acrosstheuniverse,asThornhillhassaidallalong,causethespeedofwavestravelingtrougha mediumdependsmostlyonthedensityofthemediumathand,aswellasontherigidnessand dynamicsofthestructure(chrystals,Lattices,covalentbonds,etc.)theparticlesthatmakeupthe mediumarein,whichisa.o.dependentonthetemperature.Andthatisbasicallysynonymous withtheamountofenergybeingavailable,causeheatisnothingotherthaninfraredlight. Continueinginthislineofthinking:iftheetherreallyisfluidlikeandthe"elemental"particles likequarksthatmakeupmatterarereallyjustaboutthesameasthematterweknow,just oscillatingatahigherfrequency,thensuddenlyyouwillalsohaveaveryhardtimemaintaining thattravelingatspeedshigherthenthespeedoflightisimpossible.Causesinceiftheetheris fluid/gaslikeandweknowwecantraveltroughtheseatspeedsmuchgreaterthanthespeedsat whichwavestraveltroughthesemedia,thenyouarereallylookingatexactlythesamekindof thing,justatadifferentscale. Andthen,suddenly,youalsohaveahardtimemaintainingthehypothesispostedhereisan impossibility:'Extraterrestrialhypothesis'isnowpublicoperativeexplanationforUFOs... Update2: EricDollardreallydeservestobequotedherealso: http://www.scene.org/~esa/merlib/magnetodielectric.pdf Quote: Whateverthegeneralmediaisaroundus,callittheether,orairoryoucantransmititthroughthe ground.Basicallyitjustflows. Quote: InanewspaperarticleIwaslookingthroughtheotherdayIsawthatthephysicistsnowhaveaneven biggermagnetsotheycansmashatomseverharderandfindmorelittletinyfragmentstocatalogand confusethemselves.Whatcouldbequirkierthanaquark?(laughter) Gottalovetheman:

Update3: Andthentakealookatwhatyoucandowithstandingsoundwavesinafluid,called"Cymatics". CymaticsWikipedia,thefreeencyclopedia JustgoogleforthatandlookattheimagesGoogleshowsyou,f.e.:

 Cymatics||MECHAfushigi|mechanismofMAKAfushigi:

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August27,2010 DrStiffler Senior Member NegativeMass? @lamare Dr.KoontzhastriedtoconvincemethatmySECTheorymaybewrongandthathefeelsitcanbe explainedbyhisworkwhichcontainsnegativemasselectrons,protons,andphotons. WebSiteofDr.RobertW.Koontz*www.DoctorKoontz.com IthinkinmylastcommunicationwithhimIupsethimbymyviewofhowImightinterfacehisview withmine.InordertoresolveinmyfeeblemindwhatheisspeakingaboutIstatedthattheparticles wouldthereforebetravelingintheoppositedirectionofmassparticles(thinkthisiswherehestopped talking). Anywayifweworkwithnegativemass,whynotnegativetime?,itsonlyameasuringstick,right? AnywayifyouusethenegativemassapproachitcanbeworkedintoSECbyconsideringt,therebythe JoinDate:Mar2009 Posts:687

whole(sum)ofthechangeintheLatticeequal0,humm... AnywayIhaveincludedanotherpictureofyourreceiverideawheretheloaddoesnotload. http://67.76.235.52/images/wake00.jpg

August27,2010 DrStiffler Senior Member Quote: OriginallyPostedbyCosmicFarmer @DrStiffler WhatisaDEB?Ihavenotseenyoureferenceitatalluntilnow.IcanunderstandtheDmeansdual, maybetheEmeansExciter,andtheBmightmeanbroadcasting? Werethose181boards,orcouldan181boardbeusedforthat? Lookingatthepicture,Isee2differentsizedL3coilsthateachhasanoutputthatformsanother bifilarcoilwithcapacitivecoupling.Thedifferencebetweenoscillationsshouldbegreatandmake quiteamessforradios,aswellaseachexciteraffectingeachotherinaverydynamicway.Could youincorporateaSgateintothatdesignsomehow?Orwereyoujusttryingtopushyourwireless fieldasfarasitwouldgo,andthendesignaresonantload? Inmyopinion,theAVplugisacrudewaytoharvestthecohesion,becausewhenonefrequencyis lowanothermightbehigh,andalltheAVplugdoesisgathertheaveragedifferenceatthatmoment. Thatiswhytheotherexcitersseemtoworkthesameastheirfrequenciesarelimitedtojustafewand thereforeseemstronger...Imaybewrongthough... Ifbeingaseniormemberonanalt.Eboardwithwidebandjammingexperimentalcircuitsforsale isntenoughtosendyoutofema,thennothingis.Animprovedinstrumentisjustthat.Ihopethat theseeventsdonotcometopass,however. Anyway,Didn'twanttorainonyourparade,butjustwantedtoletyouknowyoucantbea"half virgin"or"Kindof"pregnant...Ifyougetmydrift.Justgofullstrengthwhereveryoudecidetogo. I'mgladyourawakeandtryingtomakeadifference. @CosmicFarmer Afewmoreanswerstoyourquestions. Quote: JoinDate:Mar2009 Posts:687

Inmyopinion,theAVplugisacrudewaytoharvestthecohesion,becausewhenonefrequencyis lowanothermightbehigh,andalltheAVplugdoesisgathertheaveragedifferenceatthatmoment. Thatiswhytheotherexcitersseemtoworkthesameastheirfrequenciesarelimitedtojustafewand thereforeseemstronger...Imaybewrongthough... Wellisthisright?YouarewithanAVPlugRectifyingAC,correct?andsolongasthediodes havealowcapacityandahighfrequencyresponse,doyounotturnalltheACintoDC?Isn'tthe AVPlusawidebandconvertertoDC? Edit:Conradjustgotalloverme.Whichdomainarewespeaking?YouviewaWBsignalona scopeanditshowsasillywavewithdistortion,yetvieinthefrequencydomainandyouseethe realcontent.Isn'tthatscopeviewofthewavecontainingthesumoftheenergy?? IfyouweretohaveaccesstotheformulathatdescribesSECyouwouldseethatthetotalenergy whenaddedacrosstheradiationspectrum(oftheexciter)islargerthantheinputtotheexciter. Grantedaflatorwidebandloadisrequiredtorealizethis,yetthesimplelittleAVPluswilldoit fine. AproperlyoperatingSECExciterwillhaveenergyspikesouttoatleast500MHz,thiscanbe confirmedbyanyonewithandSA. Quote: Ifbeingaseniormemberonanalt.Eboardwithwidebandjammingexperimentalcircuitsforsale isntenoughtosendyoutofema,thennothingis.Animprovedinstrumentisjustthat.Ihopethat theseeventsdonotcometopass,however. ? Andnothisisnotamemberofthe'BlueManGroup'. Quote: "halfvirgin"or"Kindof"pregnant... Really,Ithoughtitwasso,kindoflikeaRevolution,notrealuntilthefirstshot!

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lamare Senior Member SomemoreonCymatics. FirstabitaboutwhatCynematicsis: TheStructureandDynamicsofWavesandVibrationsbyHansJenny Quote:

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WhenJennyexperimentedwithfluidsofvariouskindsheproducedwavemotions,spirals,andwave likepatternsincontinuouscirculation.Inhisresearchwithplantspores,hefoundanenormous varietyandcomplexity,butevenso,therewasaunityintheshapesanddynamicdevelopmentsthat arose.Withthehelpofironfilings,mercury,viscousliquids,plasticlikesubstancesandgases,he investigatedthethreedimensionalaspectsoftheeffectofvibration. Basically,youhavesomeparticlesfloatinginafluidandvibratethatwithsound. Quote: Aninterestingphenomenonappearedwhenhetookavibratingplatecoveredwithliquidandtilted it.Theliquiddidnotyieldtogravitationalinfluenceandrunoffthevibratingplatebutstayedonand wentonconstructingnewshapesasthoughnothinghadhappened.If,however,theoscillationwas thenturnedoff,theliquidbegantorun,butifhewasreallyfastandgotthevibrationsgoingagain,he couldgettheliquidbackinplaceontheplate.AccordingtoJenny,thiswasanexampleofan antigravitationaleffectcreatedbyvibrations. Nowtakealookatthispicture:

Seethisballlikestructureinthecentre? Twoquestionstothinkabout: 1.Whatforcemakesthematterstickinthatcentre? 2.Whatwouldhappenifyouwouldrotatethiswholething? Andthenlookatthis: CymaticFerrofluidallmannerofdistractions Quote:

Itslikeathreedimensionalexecutionoftheironfilingstestbutmuchmoremesmerizing.

Whydoesmagnetismdothesamethings?

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Basically,youhavesomeparticlesfloatinginafluidandvibratethatwithsound.

Nowtakealookatthispicture:

Seethisballlikestructureinthecentre? Twoquestionstothinkabout: 1.Whatforcemakesthematterstickinthatcentre? 2.Whatwouldhappenifyouwouldrotatethiswholething? Andthenlookatthis: CymaticFerrofluidallmannerofdistractions

Whydoesmagnetismdothesamethings? @lamare+all Enjoyedthelink,remindsmeofmyreadingof"Zero",TheBiographyofaDangerousIdeaby CharlesSeife,ISBN:067088457X. Withoutzero(0)Iwouldbelostinthecold,wouldnotweall?

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Ithinkyoumusthavefiguredoutbynowthatitisn'tgravitythatkeepstheparticlesinplaceinthe cynematicsexercise.Thatisveryinteresting,becauseif"gravity"existsinresonatingfluidsandthereis arealfluidlikeetherwithsuchsmallparticlesthatwecannotmeausurethem,thengravitywouldbe exactlythesameasinthisanalogy.Sincethesearestandingwaves,youwouldhavestandingareaswith highpressure,andstandingareaswithlowpressureofthefluidsurroundingthesphere.Thenthebig particleswouldnaturallyflowtowardstheareaswiththelowestetherpressure. Ifthatwouldbethecase,gravitywouldbenothingbutanelectricphenomenon,andyoucould theoriticallyovercomeitveryeasily.Yousee,iftherewouldbeagradientintheetherpressurearound theearth,andetherpressureistheexactsamephenomenonasthephenomenonwecalltheelectric field,thenyoucouldcreate"antigravity"simplybytakingtwocapacitorplatesandchargetheminthe oppositdirectionasthepressuregradient,right?

Ofcourse,wecouldnotfigurethatoneoutbyourselvesusing"classic"EMtheory,becauseifthereis noether,thengravitymustbesomethingelse.Howconvenient: UnexplainedMysteriesBiefieldBrownAntiGravityEffect Quote: WhileresearchingtheeffectsofXraysgeneratedfromaCoolidgetube,Americanphysicist,T. TownsendBrownfoundarelationshipbetweengravityandhighvoltage.Pressreportsstatethata 2footdiameterdiscwasmadetoflyaroundacentralpolewhentetheredandexcitedwithapotential of50KiloVolts.Thedisccircledthepoleatalmost12MPH.Laterimprovementsusing3footdiscs drivenbypotentialsof150KiloVoltsandupyieldedresultssospectacularthatthetestresultswere classified.WorkinginconjunctionwithDr.P.A.Biefield,Brownfoundthathighlycharged capacitorswhenproperlysuspendedshowedatendencytomoverelativetothegravitationalforce. Whenthepolesofafreelysuspendedchargedcapacitorwereplacedonahorizontalaxisaforward thrustwouldbeproducedwhichwouldmovethecapacitorinthedirectionofthepositivepole. Oops,thecapacitorswouldhavetobeasymmetrical: IceStuff.com:TheelectrostaticLifterv3.0experimentfromTheEncyclopediaoffree energy,energy21.org,energy21orgGeoffEgel Quote: TheLifterv3.0usesnineasymmetricalT.T.Browncapacitorsjoined(calledcells)soastoforma triangleassembly.Eachasymmetricalcapacitorisbuiltwithoneelectrodemadewithathincorona wireplacedat30mmfromthemainrectangularelectrodeconstructed"ala"TownsendBrown. Nowwhatwouldyoudowhenyouhad"antigravity"technology? Patentit,perhaps? ElectrokineticapparatusUS2949550AIP.com Andtherearemoreinterestingpatents,bytheway:Methodandmeansforproducingperpetual motionandpower Sofar,sogood. Nowsomethingelse.Thinkbacktothecynematicstuff.Imagineaglassofwateratyourdeskin whichyoumakethisbeautifulstructures.Asyouknow,therearetwokindsofwaves, "longitudinal"and"transverse".Soundtravelsinalongitudinaldirection,whileinaguitarstring youhaveatransversalmovement.Thedifferencebetweenthetwoisthedirectionthe"particles" inthemediummovewithrespecttothemovementofthewave.Inalongitudinalpressurelike wave,themovementoftheparticlesgloesinthesamedirectionasthewave,whileintransversal waves,theparticlesmoveperpendicularwithrespecttothemovementofthewave. Nowthinkaboutthis.Whereisthetransversalwaveinyourglass? ....

Atthewatersurface.Atthe*boundary*betweentwomediawithadifferentdensity.Nowhow onearthcanyouhavetransversalwavesina3Dfluidlikemedium?Imean,thewavetravelslike anexpandingsphere,soinwhichdirectionaretheparticalsmoving"transversally"? So,intheworldof"real"fluids,therearenotransversewaves"underwater".Transversewaves aresortoflikea"fingerprint"ofa3Dlongitudinalwavethatoccursattheboundarybetweentwo media. So,inclassicEMtheory,wearedealingwithaninterestingproblem.Yousee,becauseitis chargecarriersthatcausethefield,youcannothaveafieldbyitself.Now,iftherearenocharge carriers,likewhatissupposedlythecaseinthevacuum,iteventuallyturnsoutoftheequations thattherecanbenolongitudinal,pressurelikewaves,whichisalsowhytheyarestilllookingfor "gravitywaves",sotheycanfinallyunderstandgravity. However,inQuantummechanics,youhaveallkindsofwaveequations,withwhichyoucando allkindsofcalculationsonatomsandforexamplepredictthewavelengthsoflightthatwillbe emittedwhenanatomhasbeen"excited",asyoudoinafluorescentbulb.Basically,thatsays matterisanelectromagneticwave. So,weendupwiththesituationthatontheonehandtheysaylongitudinalwavescannotexistin thevacuum,becausethefieldscanonlybecreatedbychargecarrierswhicharematter,whileon theotherhandtheysaymatterisnothingbutanelectromagneticwave.Makeupyourmind,folks! Eitherthefieldcreatesthematter,orthemattercreatesthefield.Really,yecan'thavethemboth atthesametime,right? Andofcourse,thentheyalsomanagetoexplainEMwavesasbeingtransversalwaves,which wouldbetheonlytypesofwavesthatcanexist,whilein"realfluids"youcannothavetransversal waves,exceptattheboundaryoftwomedia. Nowlookbackatthis"CymaticFerrofluid"picture.Basicallythesameexerciseaswithwesaw beforewithsound.Theonlydifferenceisthatthistimemagneticfluidisused,andyouseethe samekindofpatterns.Iftherewouldbearealether,youwouldsaythatitlookexactlylikea standingwavepatternandthatthefluidnaturallymovestotheareaswhichhavethelowestether pressure. Nowbacktothequestionofwhatwouldhappenwhenyouwouldrotatesuchacymaticthing.In therealfluidworld,there'saninterestingkindoffilteryoucanuseinyourgardenpond.Avortex filter,whichbasicallyrotatesthewaterinsideacilinder.Whathappensisthatattheoutsideof thecilinder,thepressureisabithigherthaninthecentre,soallthedirtinyourpondwaterends upinthecentreofthefilteranddropstothebottom. Youseethesamethingmoreextremewhenyoupulltheplugoutofyourbathtubandavortex comesup,youknow,likeahurricane. Nowcoulditbethatifyouwouldbeablehaveaveryspecial,spiralingwaterhoseinsideawater vessel,suchthatthewaterwouldflowoutsideofthehose,butjustalongthesurfaceofthehose,

thatitwouldbepossibletomakeavortexinthewater? Nowimagineyouwoulddothatatthebottomofaswimmingpool. Then,youwouldbasicallygetsortoflikeanapplewithholeinthemiddle,wherethereiswater rotating.Troughthehole,itmovesquiterapidlydown,becausethat'swhereyou"drive"it,andat thebottomthewaterwouldflowtothesideandwouldeventuallyendupatthetopagain. So,atonesideofthewatercoil,waterwouldbesuckedin,andattheothersideitwouldflowout. Nowifyouwouldtaketwoofthesethings,youwouldgetfunnythings.Ifyoutrytopushthe outletsofthemagnetstogether,youcanonlydothatwhenthedirectioninwhichthewater rotatesmatches.Otherwiseyouwillgetalotofturbulence,etc. Icangoonlikethisforawhile,buttomeitseemslikewewouldbasicallyhavea"water magnet". So,thenlet'ssummarizethis: Theelectricfieldaswellasgravitationisalongitudinalwavepropagatingtroughtheether. Magnetismisa3Dvortexintheether. NowenterViktorSchauberger: ViktorSchauberger,Antigravitypropulsioninventor Quote: ViktorSchaubergerwasanAustrianforesterwhowasactiveduringthefirsthalfofthe19:thcentury. Hehadahugebeardandafriendlylaughter,thishecombinedwithanuncompromisingbeliefin himselfandhisideas.Hewasobstinateincombinationwithacholerictemper.Hewasagooddrawer andprobablyaskilledcraftsman.EvenifViktorwasnotschooledtheacademicwayhehadadeep knowledgeinbiology,physicsandchemistry.Hissenseandunderstandingonhowwaterflowsin thenaturewasexceptional.Fromhisobservationsheformulatedhisnewhydrodynamicbasic theory.Hisfriendsandopponentsdescribedhimashighlyintelligentandwiththisintellectual sharpnesshemadeadeepcutinhis(andours)physicalparadigm. DuringWorldWarTwo,VictorSchaubergerwasinternedinaNaziconcentrationcampandwas forcedtoworkonaflyingdiskprojectusinghisideas.Itisnotknowniftheprojectwas completed,or,ifthesaucersactuallyflewinGermany.Reportsvary,andnoconfirmed documentationremains.Itisratherconvincinglycoincidental,however,thatourown(US)pilots reported"strangeflyingdisks"overGermanyjustpriortotheWar'send.AfterWorldWarII,Viktor migratedtotheUnitedStatesonpromisesbyvariousagencies(CIA)tohelphimdevelopandtesthis ideas.Thosepromiseslaterprovedtobehollow.HewenttoafacilityinDallasTexas,andunder uncertaindirection,signedoveralloftherightstohisinventionsandpatents,to,noneotherthanthe USgovernment(Army,Navy...whoknows?!).HewassentbacktohishomelandofAustria,onlyto

die,brokenanddisillusionedfivedayslater.Itwouldmakeagreatheadlineforthe'National Enquirer'...andunfortunately...it'sTRUE! ViktorSchauberger: Quote: Whenthemainelectricengineisstarted,theCoandaeffectbeginstocreateadifferential aerodynamicpressurebetweentheouterandinnersurfaceoftheprimaryhull.Atahigherspeed,the vortexchamberbecomesatypeofhighelectrostaticgeneratorduetotheairparticles,inhighspeed motion,actingasanelectricalchargetransporter.TheRepulsinAwillbegintoglowduetostrong ionizationeffectoftheair.NowwehavealltheingredientsforacontinuousandstrongAetherflow alongthemainaxisfromthetoptothebottomofthecraft.Theradialairpressurerequiredforlifting 1kgwiththeCoandaEffectisroughly1.4kg/cm2. IntheRepulsinBthevortexturbinehasbeenimprovedforincreasingtheImplosionEffectand thustheliftingforce.IntheRepulsinBtheuppermembraneisfixedandthelowerrotatesathigh speed.Ontheedgerimtherearespecialshapedbladesofboomerangconfiguration.Thereare120 bladesthatare3degreesspacedaroundtherim.Theenhancedvortexturbineincreasessignificantly theimplosioneffectinthevortexchamber.Thiscontributestoitbeingabletogenerateastronger thrustthanthecentrifugalturbineusedintheRepulsinA.Bymeansofsuctionscrewimpeller (whichrevolvedfromtheoutsidetowardstheinsidealongacycloid,spiralspacecurve)thesame typeofforceisgeneratedwhichcreatestwisters,cyclones,andtyphoonsthroughtheeffectofeither suctionorimplosion. So,ifthereisnoether,howonearthcouldawaterexpertbeusefulintheresearchintothiskind oftechnology?

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Quote: OriginallyPostedbyAromaz @Lamare;withinlightIdothinkwehaveamajorsecretthatneedstobeuncovered.Problemisthat peoplehasthementalblockagethatPhotons=Light;whichisdefinitelywrong.Getfreefromthat andonecometorealizethatweinthismodern2010yeardoesnotknowasinglethingaboutlight. Nextitemtoinvestigateabitfurtherisnottheindividualcapacitorandcoilbutasingleunitthatis bothcoilandcapacitor.ThereaslightmodificationontheTeslaPancakeisthepointoforigin. Thereareindicatorsofphenomenathatwedonothaveinstrumentstoscanormeasure.Thedipole doeshaveanenergy,whichweverifiedwithbiologicalmaterial.Thesameasispresentedwith TeslasLondoncoil.WhichisNOTpotential.Weshouldfigureouthowtousetheenergytodowork WITHOUThavingthecurrentflowing.Thereisnoinstrumentthatisabletoreadthisenergy;unless youphysicallyconnectthetwoprobestocauseacurrentinwhichcaseyoudestroythedipole.Our instrumentscanonlyreadtherateofdestructionofadipolepair. Kindoflikehavingahugereservoir(Dam/Lake);nowtomakethatreservoirworkwithoutlettingthe waterout?Afterall,isfoodnotourbiggestdemand?Ifwethinkofgeneratinghydropower;thenwe aredoomed.Ifwechangeourthoughtstosayproducingfoodthenweknowthatispossibletouse suchunlimitedandfree. Canweproducelightwithoutdestroyingthedipole? Isthatgoingtobebeneficialtohumans? Interestingstufftothinkabout.I'dsaythatifyoureallyonlycanhavelongitudinalelectricwaves andvortexesintheether,thatyoucanhavephotons,whichwouldbedualvortexes,asshownin themovingpicturebyNassimHaramein(googleforhislecturesatYouTube.Veryinterestng), andyoucanhavelongitudinalwavesinthesamefrequencyrangeaswell. ThenTesla's"stingingdiscovery"isinteresting: Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki Quote: Teslaconsideredthisstrangevoltagemultiplyingeffectfromseveralviewpoints.Theproblem centeredaroundthefactthattherewasnomagneticinductiontakingplace.Transformersraiseor lowervoltagewhencurrentischanging.Herewereimpulses.Changewashappeningduringthe impulse.Buttherewasnotransformerinthecircuit.Nowireswerecloseenoughformagnetic inductionstotakeplace.Withoutmagneticinduction,therecouldtheoreticallybenotransformation effect.Noconversionfromlowtohighvoltageatall.Yet,eachswitchsnapbroughtboththeradiating bluewhitesparksandtheirpainfulsting. Highvoltageimpulsecurrentsproducedahithertounknownradiantef*fect.Infact,herewasan electrical"broadcast"effectwhoseimplementationinamyriadofbizarredesignswouldsetTesla apartfromallotherinventors.Thisnewelectricalforceeffectwasapreeminentdiscoveryofgreat histori*calsignificance.Despitethisfact,fewacademiciansgraspeditssignificanceassuch.Focused nowondogmatizingMaxwell'swork,theycouldnotac*ceptTesla'sexcitedannouncements.

AcademesarguedthatTesla'seffectcouldnotexist.TheyinsistedthatTeslarevisehisstatements. Tesla'smysteriouseffectcouldnothavebeenpredictedbyMaxwellbe*causeMaxwelldidnot incorporateitwhenformulatinghisequations.Howcouldhehavedoneso,whenthephenomenon wasjustdiscovered?Teslanowponderedtheacademicramificationsofthisneweffect.Whatthenof hisownandpossiblyotherelectricalphenomena,whichwerenotincorpo*ratedintoMaxwell'sforce laws?Wouldacademesnowignoretheirexist*ence?Wouldtheynowevendaretorejectthe possibilityofsuchphenomenaonthebasisofanincompletemathematicaldescription? Thesespikeswouldgotroughanything,unshieldable.Itseemsthatthesearelongitudinal pressurelikeshockwaves,whichcanbedetectedmoreorlessonlywhenthewaveisintheshape ofverystrongspikes. Thenthereisaninterestinglinkwiththis: Theultimatesecretoffreeenergy:SplitthepostiveANDthenegative Quote: Meyerbasicallytriedtousefastswitchingpulses,highbandwidth,eventhoughhegothisbalancing wrong.ThisisinawaysimilartowhatyoudowiththeSECcircuit,ifIunderstandthisright. However,coilsarebasicallycurrentdriven,soifyouwanttodriveacoilusingvoltagepulsestrough couplingcaps,Docisright:youneedfastswitchingandaveryhighbandwidth. Sincewenowunderstandthedifferencebetweenelectrostaticandmagnetism(therotating elementyougetwithcoils),youbasicallyhavethesameproblemifyouwanttodetectthiskind ofenergy.Youaretryingtodrivematter(rotating,coillike)withelectrostaticpressure ("voltage"),whichonlyworkswhenusing"highpressure"and"fastswitching".Sincenatural phenomenonmostcommonlyresonate,itwillbehardtodetect.

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OriginallyPostedbyAromaz Nextitemtoinvestigateabitfurtherisnottheindividualcapacitorandcoilbutasingleunitthatis bothcoilandcapacitor.ThereaslightmodificationontheTeslaPancakeisthepointoforigin. Everycoilisbothacoilandhassocalled"parasitecapacitance",whichisbasicallybecauseof thefactthatwiresarethesamethingascapacitorplates,sotheyactascapacitors.Iexplained thathere: Discussionre:thephysicsbehindnegativeenergysystemswithradiantspikes NotethatIbasicallycameupwithTesla's"hairpin"there:

Quote: And,iftheresnomagneticcomponent,theresnoPoyntingvector,andthereforenoradiationof energy Veryinteresting,becausethismightgiveussomehintsonhowtomakesignalguidesforlongitudinal electricwaves.Onetendstothinkinthedirectionofputtingseveralisolatedwiresinarow.Then, youwouldhavethecapacitivecouplingtopropagatetheenergy,whilethespirallingcurrentsprevent anymagneticcomponenttospringupandradiateourpreciousenergyawayintoouterspace Somethinglikethis:||||||||| HereIpostedaboutthepancakecoilproperties: HighVoltagefromThinAir? Quote: However,inpracticeEMwavescantakea"shortcut"inacoilspeedingthemup,andtheycanbe sloweddownaswell.Thefirsteffectisduetowhatisknownas"parasitecapacitance".Everytwo piecesofmetalformacapacitor,whichisusuallyaverysmallvalue.However,inacoil,thisvalueis significantatfrequenciesaroundtheselfresonancefrequencyofthecoil.Atthosefrequencies,the wavedoesnotactuallyhavetotravelallthewayaroundthecoiltomovetothenextwinding,butit sortofjumpsoverdirectly.Thisway,thepropagationspeedthatappearsfromtheoutside,ishigher thenthespeedoflight.It'snotsomuchthatthewavereallytravelsfaster,it'smorethatittakesa shortcut. Theslowingdowneffectisnot100%cleartome.However,Ithinkitmustberelatedtothecoupled inductionbetweentwowires.Wheneveracurrenttravelstroughacoilwire,itwillcreateamagnetic fieldarounditself,whichinducesacurrentinthewires(windings)thatsurroundthewire.Somehow, thiseffectsslowsdownthepropagationspeed. So,wehavetwoeffectsthatworkoppositetoeachotherwithrespecttothepropagationspeedofa wavetroughacoil.Experimentshaveshownthattheheight/diameterproportionofacoildetermines whichoneoftheseeffects"wins".Foraflat"pancake"coil,heightdividedbydiameterisverysmall. Thenthe"slowingdown"effectismaximal,andyougetapropagationspeedthatissignificantly lowerthenthespeedoflight. Foralong,thincoil,the"speedingup"effectismaximal,andyougetapropagationspeedthatis significantlyhigherthenthespeedoflight. Nowweunderstandwhatmagnetismisandweunderstandhowthetwofittogether,thisstuffalso beginstomakesense.

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Member Quote: OriginallyPostedbyAromaz @lamare;Iseekandanswer,maybeyoucanhelp. BywhatmethodcanIdeterminetheresonanceoftheambedientenvironmentinaspecificloacation? i.e.A)outsidegeneralenvironment/air? B)Theearthcrustatmylocation? Icandowithmanymetalsandcrystalsbuttheanswer/experimentfor environmentelludesme. Same,howdidTeslaandSchaubergercametotheirconclusions? @Aromaz:Idon'thavemuchtimetothinkaboutthisnow. However,regardingyourlightquestions,thereisaveryinterestingandwellknownexperiment about"wavematterduality": QuantumTheoryandWave/ParticleDuality Attheleft,alasershinesontoaplatewithtwoverynarrowslit.Ifyouhavetwoofthesenexttoone another,yougetaninterferencepattern.Whilethispictureshowsthistobeveryshinyandcolorful,in theactualexperimentyouonlyseethepatternontheprojectionscreen.So,thereyouhaveyour invisiblelight. Basically,whathappensisthatthe"rotation"component(themagneticcomponent)ofthelightcannot passtroughtheslit,whilethelongitudinalcomponent(electrostatic)can. So,inbetweentheslitsandthescreenyouhavelongitudinalwaves,akascalarwaves.Scalarwavesof light.Thesecaninterfere,whilephotonscannot,becausetheystillhavethisrotationalcomponent,the magnetic,andthereforeareparticlesthat"bump"ontooneanother.... So,inreality,thephenomenonofwave/matterdualityisnotreallyaduality.It'saconversionfrom vortexesintoanelectrostaticwave,whichisalsowhatisbeingdoneinanyordinaryradioreceiver. KonstantinMeyldescribedthisverywell,it'swhatisknowninelectricalengineeringas"nearfield" versus"farfield".So,thedifferencebetweenthetwoisthemagneticcomponent,therotationofthe ethersuchthatvortexesareformed. Justalittlenote:There'sanicesongontheradio,justwhenIwrotethis:"It'sthepoweroflove". Tome,thisisinteresting,becausenowthatallthisinformationispublicknowledge,weareinforavery interestingride,becausewefinallywillhavefreeenergy,sowedon'tneedtocompetesomuchwith oneanotheranymore.Iseealovelyfuturecomingon!

 Update: Ihavebeenlookingforpicturesofthisexperimentthatcanconfirmwetherornotyoucanseethelight inbetwentheslitsandthescreen.Haven'tbeenabletofindasingleoneshowingthewholesetupof suchanexperiment.NowithasbeenalongtimesinceIsawthisexperimentatschool,butasfarasI remember,youcouldn'tseethelightonit'swayfromtheslittothescreenoratleastitwasmuch dimmer.Wouldbeinterestingtoknowonceandforallifthisisthecase.Ofcourse,iftherereallyare longitudinalwavesbetweentheslitsandthescreen,someofthatwouldstillbevisibleasreflection fromdustintheair,butmostofitshouldgobyunseen.

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Quote: OriginallyPostedbyadamo21 Guys,thisisexactlyhowtheygetUFO'stolevitate....itssickeningthathistechnologyhasntbeenput totheuseforallofhumanity...itsuptoallofustomakethathappen.THANKYOUforthe information.IfanyonecansummarizeanyadditionalinformationandputitinsideaPDF,that wouldbenefitourspecies.Ihaveafeelingthisthreadwilldisappearsoon,for"NationalSecurity" reasons. Ifpeoplewanttohelpspreadingthisinformationandstructuringit,itwouldbebesttosimplygo tothearticleIstartedandeditthat: Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki Thatway,youcan"printtopdf"anytimeyoufeellikeit.Thiswouldbethemostefficientwayto dothis. So,ifanyonefeelslikehelpingahand,thatwouldbemostappreciated.Evenifyoudon'treally understandthestuff,justcopyingandpastingtheinfofromheretothere(linkingitbackhere) andstructuringitwouldbemarvelous!Tobehonest,I'mreallynottoogoodindoingthat,so again:anyhelpismostappreciated. Andasforthefearthisthreadwilldissappear:don'tworry.Mycomputermaintainsamirrorof thissite,whichisupdatedeverynight.AndIamammemberofthemembersboardoftheDutch PiratePartyandhavebeenacandidatefortheDutchParliamentaswell(Piratenpartij Nederland),whichofcoursehasadirectlinetoPiratpartiet|integritetkulturkunskap,which happenstohostWikiLeaks,forexample: SwedishPiratePartytoHostNewWikiLeaksServers|Piratpartiet So,I'dliketopointanyonewhatmayfeellikeclosingthissitedownfor"NationalSecurity" reasonstothefollowing: StreisandeffectWikipedia,thefreeencyclopedia Andjustincase:itcouldn'thurtifanyonethatreadsthisthreadmakesacopyonhis/herpersonal computer.Then,if"they"arereallystupidenoughtomakethisdissappearafterall,well,simply gotoPPInternational,findthenearestPiratePartyandemailthemthestuff.Idonthinkitwill benecessarythough,butjustincaseitmaybeneeded:makesuretousetheword"censored". AndofcourseIdeclaredeverythingIpostedheretobepartofthepublicdomain,andthestuff overatPesWikiisundertheGPL.Thisbasicallymeansyouarefreetocopyallthisstufftoyour ownwebsiteandmakeabackup.Shouldyoufeellikedoingthat,Ithinkitwouldbebesttoadda section"mirrors"tothearticleatpeswiki,sotheinformationisalwaysavailablesomewhereon thenet. Tomakealongstoryshort: WEarenotgoingtoacceptthedissapearanceofthisinformation .

Update: Justonemorething.TheaboveisreallywhyIdaretoinvestigateandpublishthisinformation.Yousee, "they"mayhavekilledStanleyMeyerandMarvinCole,therealinventorofGray'sstuff.Idon'tknow wetherornot"they"did,butIcertainlydonotruleoutthepossibility.Whatevermaybe,Iamnotafraid of"them".Ihappentobelieveinreincarnation,soreally,Iain'tfraidofnoone.Andapartfromthat, nowthattheinformationisoutthere,whatonearthwouldspreadthisquickerthantheoccasionthatI wouldgetan"accident"?Yousee,thatwouldonlymakethingsworsefor"them".Andthat'swhythis informationisherethewayitis.Iwantthetruthtobeoutthereandthisisthewaytodojustthat. __________________

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OriginallyPostedbyelias HiLamare Yourconceptisinterestingandworthtotry,haven'tyoutriedityet? AlsojusttoremindthatKWistheunitofpowerandKVistheunitofelectricpotential. Elias WhyshouldI? Gray,Meyer*and*Puharichdiditallexactlythesame,soI'msureitworks. I'mreallynotmuchofatinkerermyself.. AndyouarerightaboutkWandkV,Iknowthedifference.So,asIsaid,thereareanumberof roughedgeshereandtherethatneedtobestraightenedout.Idon'twanttoeditthethread, though,becausethisissortofmysketchbookandIjustliketokeepthatasis.

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OriginallyPostedbyewizard I'veonlyskimmedthisthreadsofarbutasIdon'tseetoomuchintermsofdetailsforbuildinga device. Thedetailsarehere:StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis. StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis. BasicallydoasPuharichdid,onlydrive*two*identicalloadsanddrivetheminoppositphase.I reallycan'ttellyoumuchmore,becauseI'mjustnotgoodattranslatingthetheoryintoactual workingstuff.So,thatwouldbeuptootherstodo.AndfromwhatIreadfromyourpostabove,it soundslikeyoumaybejusttheonethatcanpullthisoff.Itreallyisn'tthatcomplicatedoroutof theordinaryintermsofelectronicstouse,butyou'llsee. Update:there'sonemoredetailtotakecareof.Youhavetosneekinahighpassfilter.See:Stan MeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis. Update2:ifyouwanttogostraigttothejackpotforanexplanationhowthisworks,gohere: StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis. StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis. GrayTubeReplication

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Quote: OriginallyPostedbySlovenia Youaretomodest.VerywelldoneArend!! Thanks.Sonoweveryoneknowshowtopullthisoffanditismorethantimethatthis informationisoutintheopen.Nowitreallyisjustamatteroftimebeforesciencewillbeshaken allover.TheconsequencesofthisstuffarethatfarreachingthatTeslawillfinallyberecognized forwhathewas,andhowrighthewas.Andlet'sbeveryclearaboutthis:thisisnotmyinvention, itreallywasTesla's.So,Einstein'sGeneralRelativitytheorywillgotothetrashcan,aswillthe "bigbang"theory.Really,thisisgroundshakingstuff.Andsometinkereroutthereisabouttolet allthatlooseonallthosepoorscientiststhatarestilltryingtofigureoutwhatgravityisandare smashingatomstogetherinordertobreakthemintoeversmallerparticlestheycancatalogand confusethemselveswith. Really,weareinforsomeride! Andlet'snotforgetthatwecouldhavehadallthis100yearsago,whichmeanstherewouldhave beennoCO2exaustallthoseyearsandtherewouldhavebeennoMexicanGulfdisaster.This wasreallytobeTesla'sgifttohumanity,whichhasbeenstolen.NotonlyfromTesla,butfrom humanityandmotherEarthaswell. Butweknowwhowasandstillisresponsibleforthat.Weknowwhothepowersthatwereare, howtheyliedandcheatedtokeepusinthechains,howtheyabusedourneedforenergyfortheir owngain.Weknowhowtheymessedwithourscienceandhowtheykeptthetruthfromus.We knowhowtheyabusedandevenkilledourchildrenintheirsickeningsatanicrituals.Weknow howtheymessedwithourholybooksandusedthemagainstusintheirorganisedreligions.We knowwhattheydointheirBohemianGroveandtheirsecretsocietieslike"SkullandBones"and "Bilderberg".Weknowwhattheirideaof"environmentalprotection"isandwhattheWWF reallydoesinAfrica.Weknowthatthewhole"CO2"scamisnothingbutanotherbubbleofthin airtheycantaxuswithandspeculatewithontheirfinancialmarkets.Weknowhowtheyusedus ascanonfleshtofightthewarstheywantedustofightfortheirgain.Weknowhowtheir financialsystemsworkandhowtheyusethattostealourwealth.Weknowthatthemoneythey haveusworkforisnothingbutthinair.Weknowhowtheykeepusintodebtandtreatusastheir slaves.Weknowwhatkindoftoystheyhaveintheirsecret"black"programswithintheir "militaryindustrialcomplex",howtheyworkandwheretheycamefrom.Weknowwhowas responsiblefor9/11andthatAlQaidaisjustanotheroneofallthesesecretarmiesthesefascists usetoplaytheirfilthygameswithandterrorizeuswith.Weknowabouttheir"depopulation" plans.Weknowtheytriedtopoisonus.Weknowtheytriedtokilluswithdiseases. WEknow Quote: Bewareoffalseprophets,whichcometoyouinsheep'sclothing,butinwardlytheyareravening wolves.Yeshallknowthembytheirfruits.Domengathergrapesofthorns,orfigsofthistles?Even soeverygoodtreebringethforthgoodfruit;butacorrupttreebringethforthevilfruit.Agoodtree

cannotbringforthevilfruit,neithercanacorrupttreebringforthgoodfruit.Everytreethatbringeth notforthgoodfruitishewndown,andcastintothefire.Whereforebytheirfruitsyeshallknow them. Matthew7 NowI'vebeenaroundandturnedsomestones.Andthosewhofollowmytracksontheinternetwillfind themandallthoseotherstonesthatstillneedtobeturned.Andthenallwhatneedstobedonewillbe done,justamatteroftime,youcancountonthat. YoumaywanttolistentoaninterviewJohnLoftus,formerUSNaziProsecutor,hadwithme: http://www.tuks.nl/audio/Loftus_Show...20080813.mp3 YoucanfindanEnglishtranslationofmostofthearticlementionedhere: EvidenceofhowRoyalDutchShellsavedHitlerandtheNaziPartyRoyalDutchShellplc.com YoucanreadallabouttheWWFhere: TheComingFallofTheHouseofWindsor Youcanreadallabouttheirtoysandwheretheygotthemfromhere: ReichofTheBlackSunNaziSecretWeaponsandTheColdWarAlliedLegend Andhereyoucanfindouteverythingabouthowtheymessedwithourscienceandourholybooks: AmazingDiscoveries|WalterVeith|BrianNeumann|VictorGill BrowseMediaBibleControversiesAmazingDiscoveriesTV IhavewatchedWalter'slecturesoverandoveragain.Iespeciallyrecommendhis"IslamicConnection": 216TheIslamicConnection(Med)AmazingDiscoveriesTV Ijustloveaguywhohasdoneishomeworkandstandsforwhathebelievesin,eventhoughIdon't agreewithhimforthefull100%. So,I'vegotnewsforyou,guys.Yourdaysarenumbered.Thetruthisouttherenowanditwillgoallthe way.Really,you'vegotnowheretohide.So,Isuggestyoubackoffandcrawlbackundertherockyou camefromverysoonandgivehumanitybackwhatyouhavestolenfromthemallthoseyearsandbeg forforgiveness,becauseifyoudon't,well,I'mafraidyou'regoingtohavetopaytheprice.

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@lamareandall Lamar,thisisthreecoilssetupasshown,theprimaryisaroundaDEBcoilof#18wireonPVCthe secondariesareopenasistheprimary.TheHVontheprimaryisinthemiddleasexpectedshowinga peakhereanddropsoffatboththeopenanddrivingend. Nowyesyoucandrivetheloadsfromoppositeendsaswellasaloadoneachend.Thecriticalfactorin thisconfigurationisthattheloadsmustbebalancedtoobtainthegreatestenergyinbothloads.It shouldbeseenthatwehaveasetofcurrentcoilsforthesecondariesandtherequiredinputenergyis minimal,likeapeakof26*1E4=0.003(3mW). Ithinkmodificationofthecoillayoutwilldothetrick,althoughIstillthinkwemightneedbalanced loads,otherwisetheresonanceofeachloadsegmentisdifferent. http://67.76.235.52/images/wake01.jpg

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OriginallyPostedbyDrStiffler @lamareandall @Doc,Idon'thavetimetolookatthisnow,butyouneedtosneekinahighpassfilter somewheretogetthejackpot. See: StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis.

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Quote: OriginallyPostedbyJbignes5 Lamareyouhavefinallyputthelightwhereitbelongs.Myownattemptstoswaythemassesonhere intothinkingalongthelineofthegreatTeslametmuchresistance. Thanks.I'mbeginningtobelieveitjusthadtobeme.It'sverystrange,butitseemslikenotonly inthetheoryallpiecesofthepuzzlestartdroppingattheirplace,thatisalsohappeningwithmy wholelife.Imean,whydidIstudyElectricalEngineering?WhywasIcrazyenoughtodiveinto theadventureofgettinginvolvedwithsettingupapoliticalparty?WhydidIgetmyselfintothe antisoftwarepatentmovement?Andthelistgoeson.IdidallthatbecausesomehowIknewit wastherightthingtodo. NowIsee.Thesewerenecessaryinordertobeabletodothis.Withoutmystudy,Iwouldnever havebeenabletodothis.WithoutmyconnectiontothePirateParty,Iwouldneverhavebeen abletokeeptheMIBsofourbacks. So,I'msurethatthelifethathasbroughtmethisfar,hasalsopreparedmeforwhat'stocome, andthatwillbequitesomething,eventhoughnotmanypeoplewillrealisetheconsequencesof whathasbeenpostedhereatthistime. Andforthosepeoplethatareinterestedinspiritualityandsymbols,youmaywanttotakealook atmyavatarhere.Andlookupwhatthishornstandsfor.There'sadirectlinktoGermanic mythology,wherethisinstrumentwasusedtocalluponWodenorOdin,theGodofdeathand storm,whowouldwakeupandchasetheFenriswulf.Thewulfthatatethesunfromjune21st untildecember21st.So,ifthiswulfwouldnotbestopped,therewouldbedarknessforeveron Earth.So,myancestorswouldtakethishornandimitatethesoundsWodanwouldmakewithhis armyofthedeath,flyingtroughtheskies,sittingonhissixleggedhorsecalledSleipnir,anddo alltheycouldtohelphimdefeatdarkness. See:OssenhoornblazersMarkelo|Main/HomePageinDutch,butthere'sasmallYTfilmon thereyoumaylike. And,youknow,thishornusesthepowerofresonance.Andletmetellyouonething:Thiswill resonatewithawesomepower! AndIknowitwillworkforsure,causeafterall,wehaveusedthishornforaslongashistory goes,everyyear,inordertomakesurethesunwouldreturnafterdecember21st.Anditnever everfailedallthoseyears! (NowwhywasthisstorypreservedjustattheplacewhereIhappenedtobeborn?) Onemorethingonthis.SeewhatTuxwearsathisfeet? ThosearegoodoldDutchwoodenshoes! Whateveryoumaythinkofthat,believeme,youcankicksome****withthose,ifnecessary. Andyouknow,thistheoryhereisjustlikeapairofthose:

Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki That'sgonnahurtallthosewhodidn'twantustohavefreeenergyeventhoughTeslafiguredthis outalmostacenturayago,youcancountonthat. Andyouknowwhythere'ssuchabigsmileonTux'sface?He'sgotnothingtofear!Causehe's gotnothingtohide. Quote: ThetransmittersIbelievearecrystalsmuchsmallerthenwecouldeverimaginewhichwerecreated whenourspace(Universe)wasformed. Youknow,there'sanoldprogrammersjoke: Quote: Inordertounderstandrecursion,wemustfirstunderstandrecursion. So,thepointis:thereisnoelementaryparticle.It'safractal! Andthatismindblowing.Becausethatmeansthefractalgoesonbothwaysuptoinfinity.Upto infinitelybig,anddowntoinfinitelysmall.And*that*isquitesomething.Itmeansthatintheory youcanhavebillionsandbillionsofcompletegalaxiesandeverythingelseyoucanfindoutthere withingeverysinglepieceofmatter. GolookforthelecturesbyNassimHaramein(TheResonanceProject).Veryinterestingstuff. Youaregoingtolovehis"stringtheory". Andfinally,thatsuggeststheUniversemaybeahologram: TheHolographicUniverseCrystalinks Update:Ifyoureadthis,youhaveasecondreasonwhyGeneralRelativityshouldgotothetrash can. Quote: Aspectandhisteamdiscoveredthatundercertaincircumstancessubatomicparticlessuchas electronsareabletoinstantaneouslycommunicatewitheachotherregardlessofthedistance separatingthem.Itdoesn'tmatterwhethertheyare10feetor10billionmilesapart. Somehoweachparticlealwaysseemstoknowwhattheotherisdoing.Theproblemwiththisfeatis thatitviolatesEinstein'slongheldtenetthatnocommunicationcantravelfasterthanthespeed oflight. ThefirstreasonisgivenbyDr.CharlesKennethThornhill: http://www.etherphysics.net/CKT4.pdfThewholeideaofafixedspeedoflightbasically originatesinamathematicalerror.BecausetheygottheMaxwellequationswrong,theyused somefreakcoordinatetransformknownastheLorentztransform,whichcanonlyworkifthe speedoflightisconstant.Now,we*know*thespeedoflightisnotconstantinthevicinityof matter.So,really,thisisapieceofjunk.Sorry,Einstein,youwerewrongonthisone.

But,youwerequitesomethingtoo: AlbertEinsteinquotes Quote: Theintuitivemindisasacredgiftandtherationalmindisafaithfulservant.Wehavecreateda societythathonorstheservantandhasforgottenthegift. So,I'msureyou'llforgivemeforwhatIsaidjusthere. Update2:Andofcourse,Teslagotitrightallalong: PowerPedia:Tesla'sDynamicTheoryofGravityPESWiki Quote: "...Supposingthatthebodiesactuponthesurroundingspacecausingcurvingofthesame,itappears tomysimplemindthatthecurvedspacesmustreactonthebodies,andproducingtheopposite effects,straighteningoutthecurves.Sinceactionandreactionarecoexistent,itfollowsthatthe supposedcurvatureofspaceisentirelyimpossibleButevenifitexisteditwouldnotexplainthe motionsofthebodiesasobserved.Onlytheexistenceofafieldofforcecanaccountforthemotions ofthebodiesasobserved,anditsassumptiondispenseswithspacecurvature.Allliteratureonthis subjectisfutileanddestinedtooblivion.Soareallattemptstoexplaintheworkingsofthe universewithoutrecognizingtheexistenceoftheetherandtheindispensablefunctionitplays inthephenomena." "Myseconddiscoverywasofaphysicaltruthofthegreatestimportance.AsIhavesearchedthe entirescientificrecordsinmorethanahalfdozenlanguagesforalongtimewithoutfindingtheleast anticipation,Iconsidermyselftheoriginaldiscovererofthistruth,whichcanbeexpressedbythe statement:Thereisnoenergyinmatterotherthanthatreceivedfromtheenvironment." Update3: TheHolographicUniverseCrystalinks Quote: "Ahologramteachesusthatsomethingsintheuniversemaynotlendthemselvestothisapproach.If wetrytotakeapartsomethingconstructedholographically,wewillnotgetthepiecesofwhichitis made,wewillonlygetsmallerwholes. ThisinsightsuggestedtoBohmanotherwayofunderstandingAspect'sdiscovery.Bohmbelievesthe reasonsubatomicparticlesareabletoremainincontactwithoneanotherregardlessofthedistance separatingthemisnotbecausetheyaresendingsomesortofmysterioussignalbackandforth,but becausetheirseparatenessisanillusion.Hearguesthatatsomedeeperlevelofrealitysuch particlesarenotindividualentities,butareactuallyextensionsofthesamefundamentalsomething. So,therewegotourfractalagain.

Update4: Letmefinishthiswithafewquotes: ConscienceWikiquote Quote: Onsomepositions,Cowardiceasksthequestion,"Isitsafe?"Expediencyasksthequestion,"Isit politic?"AndVanitycomesalongandasksthequestion,"Isitpopular?"ButConscienceasksthe question"Isitright?"Andtherecomesatimewhenonemusttakeapositionthatisneithersafe,nor politic,norpopular,buthemustdoitbecauseConsciencetellshimitisright.Ibelievetodaythat thereisaneedforallpeopleofgoodwilltocometogetherwithamassiveactofconscienceandsay inthewordsoftheoldNegrospiritual,"Weain'tgoin'studywarnomore."Thisisthechallenge facingmodernman. MartinLutherKing,Jr. Gandhi(1982)Memorablequotes Youdon'tthinkwe'rejustgoingtowalkoutofIndia! Quote: Yes.Intheend,youwillwalkout.Because100,000Englishmensimplycannotcontrol350million Indians,ifthoseIndiansrefusetocooperate. MahatmaGandhi MilitaryIndustrialComplexSpeech,DwightD.Eisenhower,1961 Quote: Inthecouncilsofgovernment,wemustguardagainsttheacquisitionofunwarrantedinfluence, whethersoughtorunsought,bythemilitaryindustrialcomplex.Thepotentialforthedisastrousrise ofmisplacedpowerexistsandwillpersist. Wemustneverlettheweightofthiscombinationendangerourlibertiesordemocraticprocesses.We shouldtakenothingforgranted.Onlyanalertandknowledgeablecitizenrycancompeltheproper meshingofthehugeindustrialandmilitarymachineryofdefensewithourpeacefulmethodsand goals,sothatsecurityandlibertymayprospertogether. DwightD.Eisenhower JohnF.KennedyWikiquote Quote: Theveryword"secrecy"isrepugnantinafreeandopensociety;andweareasapeopleinherently andhistoricallyopposedtosecretsocieties,tosecretoathsandtosecretproceedings. JohnF.Kennedy

BarackObamaWikiquote Quote: Wearetheoneswehavebeenwaitingfor. BarackObama Quote: ThensaidJesustothoseJewswhichbelievedonhim,Ifyecontinueinmyword,thenareyemy disciplesindeed. Andyeshallknowthetruth,andthetruthshallmakeyoufree. John8 Quote: AndIJohnsawtheholycity,newJerusalem,comingdownfromGodoutofheaven,preparedasa brideadornedforherhusband.AndIheardagreatvoiceoutofheavensaying,Behold,thetabernacle ofGodiswithmen,andhewilldwellwiththem,andtheyshallbehispeople,andGodhimselfshall bewiththem,andbetheirGod.AndGodshallwipeawayalltearsfromtheireyes;andthereshallbe nomoredeath,neithersorrow,norcrying,neithershalltherebeanymorepain:fortheformerthings arepassedaway. Revelation21 MikeQuinseySaLuSa,September1,2010 Quote: Weknowthatthesemessagesarereceivedmainlybytheconverted,whichhavestirredwithinand sensedtheimportanceofthesetimes.Otherstakeapassinglookbutifitdoesnotfitinwiththeir presentmindset,itwillremainoutsideoftheirthinking.However,nothingthatyoureadorhearis withoutitsvalue,andanewideacanlaydormantforawhileandthencometolife. SaLuSa

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@Jbignes5:Iwilllookatthislater. So,there'squitealotofthingstocheckout,butthemajorconclusionofthewholefractal/Cymatic exerciseisthis: Thereisoneandonlyonedifferencebetween"real"gas/fluid/solidmatterandtheether(andalso planetarysystemsandgalaxiesforthatmatter).Andthatisthescaleatwhichyou'relookingatthe phenomena.Andthathasaonetoonerelationtothefrequencyofthewavephenomenawe'retalking about. Thatmeansthatf.e.CymaticexperimentsandallthestuffVictorSchauberger,forexample,figuredout isanexactandprecisemodelforthephenomenathattakeplaceatthatsubsubnanoscalewethinkof as"theether"aswellasforthegiantscalesofplanetarysystemsandgalaxies. Really,there'sonlyonedifference,IMHO.

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Whatifsplittingpositiveandnegativeisactuallyrefertoorgoneorradiant?Andthecapacitoris utilizedtoaccumulatetheorgone,nottheelectric? Theproblemishowtoconvertittoelectricity.WhatifthestrangedesignofEdgrayisactuallyawayto convertorgonetoelectricity? Ifweutilizeorgone,thebatterydonothavetobeshortedandkeptitschargebecauseorgonecircuit onlyneedthevoltage,notthecurrent.Voltagepotentialgenerateorgone.Thissatisfyofutilizingpower withoutbreakingthedipole. Justranting...

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Quote: OriginallyPostedbysucahyo Whatifsplittingpositiveandnegativeisactuallyrefertoorgoneorradiant?Andthecapacitoris utilizedtoaccumulatetheorgone,nottheelectric? Theproblemishowtoconvertittoelectricity.WhatifthestrangedesignofEdgrayisactuallyaway toconvertorgonetoelectricity? Ifweutilizeorgone,thebatterydonothavetobeshortedandkeptitschargebecauseorgonecircuit onlyneedthevoltage,notthecurrent.Voltagepotentialgenerateorgone.Thissatisfyofutilizing powerwithoutbreakingthedipole. Justranting... Orgone,radiant,gravity,what'sinaname? It'sallthesamething.WeElectricalEngineerscallitthestaticelectricfield,whichisn'tstaticat all.

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Onemorethingonrelativity ThefactthatEinstein'srelativitytheoryisbasedonanerror,doesnotmeanitcannotproducecorrect results. TheLorentztransformismathematicallycorrect.ItrustThornhillonthatone.So,Einsteindoesgive youthecorrectnumbers,nodoubtaboutthat.It'sjustthatyourimageofrealityisblurredtroughapair ofveryawkwardlensesknownastheLorentztransform. Thatbasicallymeansyoudogetthecorrectresults,butyouhavenoideawhatyou'rereallylookingat.

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OriginallyPostedbyJbignes5 BeingcomparedtoTeslashouldbeanhonornotsomethingtoshun. Amen,brother,amen.

Sept2,2010 DrStiffler Senior Member Abetterpicture @lamare Youmayenjoylookingatalittlebetterpictureofthe'EnergyLattice'itismoreexplanatorythanwhatI havepostedpublicyet.Thefinedetailisfartodeepforageneralformsothisoverviewisbetter. Allwaveforms(frequencies)oftheuniverserideontheenergyconduitsbetweenenergynodes.Each nodewhenopenedcanoffertheentireenergyoftheuniverseasitisavirtualconnection.Youcannot increaseenergybeyondthislevel,butwhatissoclearisthatyouonlyhavetofullyaccessonesetof nodestoobtainunlimitedenergy.Thelatticeappearsthreedimensionalinsuchapictorialview,yet wheninterfaceditactsasonenodeset,thereforewhenyouconnectsayto1500nodepairs,theyall resolvetoonenodepair,soismothernature. Toopenanodeiswhatyouallarelookingfor,theamountofenergyyouobtainishowwideyouopen thedoor.Thinkofadoorandamassofpeoplewantingtogetthroughtotheotherside.Whatfactors affectthenumberofpeopleperperiod?Iguessmostwillguessfirst,howwideisthedoor,thenwesay JoinDate:Mar2009 Posts:687

howfastcanthepeoplemovethrough,howmuchmassiseachperson.Allthefactorsaffectwhoand whatgetsthroughthedoorandevenifthedoorisopen. http://67.76.235.52/images/wake15.jpg

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OriginallyPostedbyJbignes5 AnyonegotalinktoTurtur'sideas?Iwouldbeinterestedtocheckemoutifsomeonehasalink... Seemyarticleatpeswiki.Iquotedhimandthereisalinkthere.Can'tgiveitdirectnow,cause I'minthetrainonmymobile.

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OriginallyPostedbybaroutologos Sofar,theultimatesecretshouldbecalled,"theultimatetheoreticsecretoffreeenergy" Iseewhatyoumean,yes. Letmeputitthisway:IfullytrustthatGray,MeyerandPuharichdidwhatthesaythedidand sawwhattheysaytheysaw.Now,bothMeyerandGrayssystemshavebeenpubliclyshownto work.Andthereasontheirstuffnevermadeitisbecauseallthoseother"theorists"thatknewit allsaiditcouldn'tbedone. So,Ijustwenttheotherway.Isaid:apparantlywhattheseGuysdidwasforreal.So,let'sfindout howonEarththiscouldpossiblywork. Andthenitturnedouttheyallindependentlyusedthesameprinciple,whichcanbecompletely

explainedwithproperscience.BasicallyonlyCoulombslawandsomemath. So,eitherCoulombwaswrongandthesethreeguyswereincrediblefrauds,orthisistheway theydidit.Isimplydonotseeanyotherpossibility. Eitherthingsadduportheydon't. Andnomatterwhat:timewilltell. Update: Onemorething.We'redoingthistheopensourceway,right? http://catb.org/esr/writings/cathedr...r/ar01s04.html Quote: ReleaseEarly,ReleaseOften LinusTorvalds

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OriginallyPostedbyArmagdn03 Forthosewhoarenotfamiliar,Sethisan"intelligence"channeledthroughJaneRoberts.Manyhave believedhimtobeafacetofherpersonality,orahoax,howeverhereisaninterestingquote regardingthematter....IntheSethmaterial,JaneRobertspresentedadiscussionbetweenSethand EugeneBarnard,anacademicpsychologistwithextensiveknowledgeofeasternphilosophy. Ifyou'reinterestedinthatkindofstuff,youmaywanttocheckoutDavidWilcock.Hehassome veryinterestingfoodforthoughtathiswebsite: DivineCosmos Yecangooglefor"davidwilcockfiletype:pdf"tofindhisstuff.Ilikehim.Healsohasan interestingvideotogetherwithGrahamHancockoverathisyoutubechannel. However,thiskindofstuffcannotbeconsidered"hardscience".Nonetheless,theycangiveyou interestingideasandfoodforthought.

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OriginallyPostedbyJbignes5 IbelievethatBedini'swayistocreateasuperflowinthefluidthatallowsforittocontinueto maintainorevengainchargelongafterithasbeendisconnectedfromthecircuitfromthissuper flow. Ifyouaskme,withBedini'sstuffyougetapolarizeddielectricinsideyourbattery.Ifirstthought thatwasalsowhatMeyerwasdoing,becausethereweresomereferencesthatthetubeshadtobe coated.Istartedanarticleoveratpeswikiaboutthis,whichwecalled"theelectreteffect",but thingswentintoanotherdirection,soImovedthatstuffintothenewarticleandnevergottowork thispartout. However,ifyou'reinterested,therearestillalotoflinksandquotestotherelevantdiscussions here,aswellaslotsofreferencesaboutthis.Ifyouwanttogothisway,thenyouwillhaveto studyelectrolyticcapacitors. So,ifyouwanttoinvestigatemyideasaboutthis,youcanstarthereandfindyourway: Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki Update:youmaywanttostartwiththese: http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ionsdmr07.pdf http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ons2dmr08.pdf "HighVoltageimpulsechargingasprescribedbyJohnBedinihasbeenseentochargeabattery cellinadifferentphysicalmanner." Firstarticlealsoavailableat:http://www.panaceauniversity.org/OTG...0%20DMR07.pdf DaveMichaelRogersexperimentedwith"batteries"inalaboratorysetup.Veryinteresting. FirsttimeIreadthis,Ididn'treallygetit.Youknow,what'sa"Plantecell"?Someonebiologist havingfun?Turnsoutitwasthenameoftheguywhoinventedtheleadacidbattery. And@Slovenia:thanksforyourpdfs.Ienjoyedreadingitallback