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11-29-2012,
02:28 PM
#1
wolf3461
Member
Smle bolt thread sizes Does anyone know if the threads for the bolts holding on the trigger guard front and rear are a standard modern size? if so what is correct. Also will Ishapore bolts fit the #4 mk1? These are the last two pieces i need to finish mine. Numrich has the ishapore not the smle. Looking a few other places also.
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11-29-2012,
02:54 PM
#2
plonker
Senior Member
Here is every screw on a SMLE No1 MkIII or Mk III*, hope this helps. Unfortunately the thread form is not a modern one. Rifle No 1 Mark III & III* Screw, cap, nose, front Screw, extractor retaining Striker Screw, striker retaining B15 A45 A49 A50 .1875dia x 33tpi .126dia x 42tpi .25dia x 30tpi .144dia x 37tpi Whitworth form? Two types: - Domed, wide slot - Flat head, narrow slot. Also longer version for attaching aperture sights. Commercial sources. Later examples have larger head and wider slot.
Screw, guard, trigger, back Screw, cap, nose, back Screw, piling swivel Screw, butt-trap spring Screw, cap, handguard, front Screw, bayonet grip Screw, backsight protector Screw, cut-off Screw, trigger guard, front Screw, outer band Screw Windage Backsight No1 Screw, sear Screw, ejector Screw, catch,slide,backsight Bolt Bayonet Patt 1907 Screw, dial sight fixing Screw, sling swivel rear Bolt, Stock Bolt Head Screw, cap, backsght Screw, back sight spring Screw, inner band Screw, safety catch spring
B27 B14 B17 B49 B20 C09 B33 A36 B28 B11 N/A A39 A37 A20 C4 NA B43 B36 A47 A13 A25 A03 A33
.144dia x 37tpi .1875dia x 33tpi .1875dia x 33tpi .1656dia x 37tpi .096dia x 56tpi .1656dia x 37tpi .1875dia x 33tpi .114dia x 49tpi .25dia x 30tpi .1875dia x 33tpi .17dia x 46dia .1745dia x 50tpi .1656dia x 37tpi .1875dia x 33tpi .181dia x 26-1/3tpi .181dia x 26-1/3tpi .1875dia x 33tpi 7/16" BSW (14tpi) .4175dia x 20tpi .1656dia x 37tpi .144dia x 37tpi .1875dia x 33tpi .1656dia x 37tpi
Later spares use 3BA Counter sunk m/c screw All marks bar MarkIII*
Different ot P14
I suddenly had this feeling that everything was connected. It was like I could see the whole thing; one long chain of events that stretched back to before Larkhill. I felt like I could see everything that had happened, and everything that was going to happen With so much chaos, someone will do something stupid. And when they do, things will turn nasty. Inspector Finch, V for Vendetta.
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11-29-2012,
03:24 PM
wolf3461
Member
Nov 2012 47
Thank you very much indeed! This information will be a great help!
11-29-2012,
03:29 PM
#4
Mk VII
Senior Member
#4BA is about right for the rear one, though one may have to chase it over with a 4BA tap. There is nothing readily available that will substitute for the front one.
11-29-2012,
04:02 PM
#5
wolf3461
Member
Nov 2012 47
found a front guard screw at Sarco. just need to find that rear one now.
11-29-2012,
04:23 PM
#6
brit plumber
Senior Member
Theres a few guys in the UK who sell NOS rear screws on ebay. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Enfield-SM...item3ccc2ef109
11-30-2012,
09:25 PM
#7
JB White
Senior Member
Also will Ishapore bolts fit the #4 mk1? These are the last two pieces i need to finish mine. Numrich has the ishapore not the smle
No, an Ishapore rifle bolt will not fit in a No4. Two different animals with the bolt head riding the rail inside on one and outside on the other. An Ishapore is an SMLE but a No4 is not.
12-03-2012,
08:33 PM
#8
DocAV
Senior Member
BTW, the "Inches" used on SMLEs and earlier rifles are "Enfield Inch" and NOT "Imperial Inch" : there is about 4/10,000's difference between the two. In pra
12-03-2012,
11:08 PM
#9
Austen
Senior Member
BTW, the "Inches" used on SMLEs and earlier rifles are "Enfield Inch" and NOT "Imperial Inch" : there is about 4/10,000's difference between the two. In pra
Tony Griffiths, who wrote the two books on the history of the Lithgow Small Arms Factory, also wrote a small book about the Enfield Inch. It is called, surprisingly enough, "The Enfield Inch".
12-04-2012,
12:17 AM
#10
John Sukey
Senior Member
No, an Ishapore rifle bolt will not fit in a No4. Two different animals with the bolt head riding the rail inside on one and outside on the other.
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He is talking about the screws, not the rifle bolt. Oh, by the way, the screws on the No4 are standard brit threads unlike the smle
12-04-2012,
01:33 PM
#11
plonker
Senior Member
Standard for Britain, maybe, but BA bolts aren't real common in the U.S. Rifle No 4 Mark 1, 2, 1/2 Screw, blade foresight Screw, guard trigger back Bolt head Screw, foresight guard Screw, band Bolt, stock Screw, swivel butt Screw, guard trigger front Screw, catch magazine Striker Screw, striker retaining Screw, extractor retaining Screw, swivel, front Screw, ejector Screw, spring bolt locking Rifle No 5 Mark 1 Screw, retaining butt-cap Bolt, stock Screw, bayonet grip Screw adjusting, backsight B03 E08 F13 A07 4BA 7/16" BSW 3BA Unique to the No5, according to SAIS. Lightened version, interchangeable with No4 B07 E26 C27-30 E15 A50 D09 D12 E27 E24 A49 C15 C14 A41 E25 E29 4BA .4375dia x 20tpi 4BA 2BA 7/16" BSW (14tpi) 2BA 1/4" BSF (26tpi) 4BA 1/4" BSF (26tpi) 4BA 5BA 2BA 3BA 3BA Also for Rifle No 5 Also for Rifle No 5 Also for Rifle No 5 Also for SMLE Also for Rifle No 5 Long version available for securing target aperture sights. AJ Parker product. Also for Rifle No 5. Also for Rifle No 5 Also for Rifle No 5 Also for Rifle No 5 Also for Rifle No 5 Also for Rifle No 5
I suddenly had this feeling that everything was connected. It was like I could see the whole thing; one long chain of events that stretched back to before Larkhill. I felt like I could see everything that had happened, and everything that was going to happen With so much chaos, someone will do something stupid. And when they do, things will turn nasty. Inspector Finch, V for Vendetta.
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