Chapter 25 Who is Shri Mataji? If people ask Shri Mataji, at public programmes, who are you?

She often answers rather difficult, ask the Sahaja Yogis. You, respected reader, have now read about a large number of miraculous or extremely unusual occurrences which seem to emanate from this remarkable lady. Not only that, She seems to have the ability to pass this ability on to those who take to Sahaja Yoga. Very often, as in one of the quotations earlier in this book, She will insist that it is all done we are not doing anything. Done by who or what? The paramchaitanya, the all pervading power of divine love. Shri Mataji has been working hard and quietly for over thirty years now. She has the most extraordinarily auspicious horoscope which is very revealing. An Indian astrologer who did both Her horoscope and the horoscope of Sahaja Yoga, has said that in the next few years Her message will go world wide. Perhaps the time for secrecy is over. Albert Lewis from Australia relates a story which shows Shri Mataji may be more than She appears. In May 1983 Shri Mataji had just completed a lecture tour of Australia and had stopped over at Kuala Lumpur, en route to India, where She was to give some public programs. At Singapore airport, a friend of mine and I had the privilege of being able to join Her for the onward flight to Mumbai. We were waiting in the queue of people to go through the metal detector prior to boarding the aircraft. As Shri Mataji started to walk through, all the lights started to flash and the buzzers to sound. Shri Mataji was called to one side by a security attendant. After we had gone through without a murmur from the alarms, we followed to where She was detained. Shri Mataji was wearing a typical traditional Indian sari and blouse. The security attendant was using his hand scanner to check for any metal objects and, to his surprise, it continued to sound while scanning Shri Mataji, even on Her bare arms. He checked his device on himself by scanning his arm and it only buzzed when going over his watch. A little confused, he once again scanned Shri Mataji, especially her bare arms and the device continued to buzz. According to the metal detector, this Indian lady, wearing only a silk sari with a short sleeved blouse, was clad in a suit of armour. In the confusion and in disbelief in what was happening before his eyes and with a queue of passengers building up and walking through the detector without supervision, he waved to Shri Mataji to carry on. Shri Mataji chuckled and walked on into the boarding lounge. All this happened in a matter of ten to fifteen seconds. We both saw it and were totally bemused. I doubt that anyone else in that busy airport lounge realized what had happened that early morning.

Felicity Payment, now of Vancouver Canada, relates an experience that many of us who know Shri Mataji have had. Whatever is our special field of expertise, Shri Mataji seems to know it much better than we do. We were standing with Shri Mataji in the nave of a beautiful 13th century abbey in Sherbourne, Dorset, England. We had just had a weekend seminar the day before at our house, Mill Farm in Dorset, England and as was Her custom, Shri Mataji was visiting the area to spread vibrations everywhere. She looked way up at the limestone ceiling full of vaulted buttresses. How do you think they made those arches? She said, gesturing with Her hand, as if wondering to Herself. I was clutching a guidebook. Maybe it will tell us in here, I said, but before I could find anything, Shri Mataji launched into a complete architectural explanation, as if She knew the answer all along. Later Djamel Metouri said that he had had a conversation with Shri Mataji about aerodynamics and She had talked with him about very technical aerodynamic concepts. It was this incident that made me realize that Shri Mataji, of course, is the pure source of all knowledge. She knows everything about everything. Another Sahaja Yogi in Vancouver tells of a different occasion which hints at Shri Matajis calibre. I was with Shri Mataji in Vancouver, going from the airport to the ashram where She was staying overnight. As we arrived there was a huge thunderstorm and Shri Mataji said it was Shri Vishnumaya, the sister of Shri Krishna, two of whose powers are lightning and electricity. We arrived in the ashram and Shri Mataji sat down and some of the yogis came to do namaskar at Her Feet. As they did the namaskar, a lightning stroke came through the room between Her Feet and the people. The vibrations were absolutely amazing. Shri Mataji also has superhuman strength, if She so desires. Ruth Flint, Duilio Cartocci and Giovanni Albanesi, who told the story of the never ending bag of cement and others, tell this story. On that same weekend that the miracle happened with the endless cement, at Brompton Square in London, some people were supposed to come and visit the house. Many of the men were moving furniture. Shri Mataji asked some strong young Italians to move Her bed in solid wood and they were trying to push it, but could not move it a centimetre. Ruth Three of us had to move a very heavy wooden bed. We were at the foot of the bed on our knees and we pushed and pushed, but the bed didn't move. Duilio I was in the room, packing Shri Matajis suitcase. Shri Mataji approached the bed and just pushed it with Her knee and the bed moved. Ruth

At that moment I turned my head and I saw Shri Mataji touching with her knee the foot of the bed. In the same moment, the bed flew against the wall in the right position and we fell on the ground. Duilio The Italian yogis said, Ah, in big shock and surprise. Shri Mataji laughed and She said, Well, after all, I am Adi Shakti, so its normal that I can push this bed! Everybody was in awe in front of Her. Ruth On that same day, there was a big wardrobe for clothes. The men needed to move this cupboard and no one could move it. But when Shri Mataji just touched it with Her finger, it just moved easily. Giovanni Often the Sahaja Yogis themselves are astounded at what people report. We had a Sahaja Yogi from Greece who was living near London. She kept pleading with Shri Mataji for her own parents come into Sahaja Yoga. They were very orthodox Christians. In about 1979, she finally managed to get an opportunity to bring them to see Mother. They sat in front of Mother while She talked to the Sahaja Yogis. When Shri Mataji got up and left the room, her parents suddenly got down on their knees and started bowing to Shri Matajis chair. Her parents were in tears. The Sahaja Yogi asked them, after they had recovered their composure, what had happened. Apparently after Shri Mataji got up and left the chair, both the parents saw Christ kneeling by the chair in prayer. Bala Kanayson Niranjan Mavinkurve was, by his own admission a great hater of Christianity, but after coming to Sahaja Yoga we all understand and respect all the true religions. The sixth, or Agnya chakra, which is situated at the level of the forehead, corresponds to the powers of Christ. Every chakra is associated with a deity or aspect of the divine, and Shri Mataji shows us how the spiritual evolution of mankind is reflected within the Kundalini of all of us. Generally we only have visions like this if there is a little bit of a problem or imbalance. I got my realization on 12th August 1973. That evening we went to Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan, Mumbai, India, where Shri Mataji was giving Self Realization to a few people, about ten or fifteen. We both sat there and, this being a very early stage of Sahaja, Shri Mataji was Herself working hard to give Self Realization and raise our Kundalinis. To my great surprise, when She touched my forehead, there was a flash and I saw a Christ crucified. I did not know it was the Agnya chakra, and I did not know it was the place of Christ. It was for five or six seconds, just a flash. I wondered why being a Hindu and a great hater of Christianity I should get a vision of a crucified

Christ. But I didnt say anything at that time. I just witnessed it and closed my eyes. The flame would shudder at Shri Matajis glance, relates John Watkinson When Shri Mataji was giving vibrations, or curing, or generally working on someone by giving vibrations, very often a person would kneel at Her Feet. Shri Mataji would be looking at their back and then suddenly She would look up and there would always be a candle put in front of Her. The moment She would look up at the candle, the flame would shudder. Then She would look at another flame, because there would always be two or three candles. As She looked at a particular flame, that candle would judder as She would be driving the negativity out and into the flame. It was fantastic to watch. Shri Mataji has explained many times that we should not see light or colours or any sort of extrasensory experiences like that, as Douglas Fry explains. Many people who have taken drugs have seen Shri Mataji in this way, but She does not encourage it, and as the drugs wear off, so do these off-centre, or unbalanced, experiences. Because I wasnt properly centred, I had a bit of an Agnya problem at that time. I used to see Shri Mataji flash from different colours. She used to go this beautiful rainbow green and this beautiful rainbow red and Id just see this light sort of flashing from Her. But apparently the reason for that was because I had an Agnya problem. I mentioned this to Shri Mataji: You shouldnt see that, She said, One colour is power and one is purity. I could see them, but She said, If you can actually see those colours, it means you are not a in the centre. You are off to one side. Meenakshi Murdoch, living in London, describes how the chakras feel in Shri Matajis own body. After Shri Mataji had given realisation at the public programmes, we all would stand in a queue and go at to her and Mother would say: Oh, see. Thats there. I still remember the Kundalini rising or throbbing at each chakra in the new people as She used to clear it out and thats how it was. If there was a problem in a chakra, then you could sometimes see the Kundalini throbbing or pulsating at that place for a short time. When Shri Mataji asked you to put your hand on Her head, on the Agnya chakra or whatever chakra, you could feel the rotation of the chakra spinning so fast. Here is another example of the extraordinary healing power radiating from Shri Matajis body, this time from Kay McHugh of Australia.

I was sitting on the train from Pune to Mumbai, India opposite Mother. She was at the window seat and I was sitting opposite. With us were an Australian man and an Indian man. She had the Australian stand up, and She was sitting down and he was pushing down on the top of Her head, Her Sahasrara chakra, with his hands. She was trying to open his Sahasrara chakra. But he was pushing down. He was over six foot and pushing down as hard as he could and She kept saying: Harder! for him to push on Her head. Harder, harder. She was laughing because he couldnt push any harder. He was sweating, he was pushing so hard. She was sitting there as if there was a feather on Her head, laughing and talking and turning Her head. He was standing there sweating and pushing as hard as he could and Shri Mataji was not being affected at all and being so charming and talking to people on the train. On another occasion, we went to a hospital where there was a Sahaja Yogis mother-in-law, who had gone to a fake, or as we say false, guru after getting her Self Realization. Shed gone blind and Mother went to the hospital in Her compassion. Now you dont come in, She said to me, and went into the hospital and after some time She came out again. I was amazed because She sat in front of me in the front seat of the car and, because Shed worked on this womans blindness, Her back Agnya, the back of Her head, had sucked in all the negativity and it was pulsating out about an inch and a half. You could see it. I sat there with my mouth open and watching the back of Her Agnya go in and out and in and out, as She obviously was working out the back Agnya. That was a pretty amazing experience to see that, to see the bones move like that and pulsating. And another, from Marilyn Leate We all went to Shri Matajis flat in London and were given cups of coffee. She continued to work on people, help them in every way and cure them. She just gave and gave. One time She asked me to put my hand on Her left Swadisthan chakra, on her back at the level of the hip, and put my other hand out. I felt an incredible force going through me and my arm shook slightly. She looked at me. Powerful, isnt it? She said. The ancient megalithic standing stones which are found all over England have long been recognised as having spiritual significance. Here are two experiences connected with Shri Mataji. There were some Sahaja Yogis who had been to Stonehenge and who had felt a lot of wonderful vibrations coming from the large stones. They suggested that we go there with Shri Mataji. We went, and eventually we stood close to Mother and were trying to feel the vibrations from the stones and oddly there were no vibrations coming from them. Some of the Sahaja Yogis who had

been there before and had felt the vibrations asked Mother. They were really surprised and they said: Look, we used to feel vibrations here and we are not feeling any. Mother turned to us and said: Thats because I am here. Out of respect for Me, the stones are not emitting any vibrations. They are waiting for My permission. All right. Now! The moment She said that, the vibrations just came in waves from the stones. Bala Kanayson We had a megalith, a standing stone in the garden, which was why the place was called Crosscraig place of the holy stone. There were quite a few standing stones in the Rannoch Valley, Perthshire, Scotland, but this one was all alone, about a metre and a half high and near the edge of the loch. It had a sort of a cup mark in it near the top. We took Shri Mataji to see it, as it was only about fifty metres from the house, and She told us something very interesting. She said that the people who put up these stones knew that She was going to come there, but that also some very bad things were going to go on there beforehand, because we had been caught up in a very damaging pseudo-spiritual cult. She asked us to feel the vibrations of the stone and it didnt seem to have any, either positive or negative. She said yes, that was right, that the stone had been put there to absorb some of the negative vibrations and so make Her work easier, but that it was as if full, so could not emit cool vibrations. Linda Williams Miodrag Radosavljevic, from the former Jugoslavia and now living in London, tells how Shri Mataji explains herself as being like sunlight. There was a miracle, which I experienced when we had a seminar in the English countryside. It was a long time ago, 1979, and Shri Mataji came. It was a very dark day with no sun, heavy clouds. It was very, very dull and heavy. There was a lot of doubting in Sahaja Yoga at that time. Shri Mataji was talking to us and saying that She expresses the powers of Shri Krishna and Lord Jesus: all of the aspects of the divine. She said it was like the sunlight. At that moment the beam of sunlight came out of nowhere and shone on Her head and went away. To prove it, She said that the beam of sunlight should come again on Her head. That happened two or three times. Out of nowhere the sun came. I witnessed this together with about fifty other Sahaja Yogis who where present at that time. Hari Jairam is a telecommunications engineer who has worked for various large institutions around the world. Some years ago in my work I had to develop a new type of radio antenna. I was at first unable to make much headway in improving on older

designs. One morning as I sat in meditation, I asked in my heart the question to Shri Mataji: Mother, are You the telecommunications expert of the universe? I started to feel cool vibrations. Then an idea came to me of electromagnetic waves spreading through the universe like the vibrations which we experience in Sahaja Yoga and being helped in their radiation through the use of certain auspicious shapes and forms. In Sahaja Yoga we find that certain shapes, for instance the bandhan or horseshoe, attract and channel vibrations, hence they are said to be auspicious, and pleasing to the divine. Later that day, I began to design my new antenna taking these forms as a base. The antenna we built to this design worked extremely well and the company went on to win orders worth many millions of pounds. When they asked me for information about the theoretical basis of the new design, I just told them that I had consulted a Higher Authority. Geoff Godfrey tells of one of the many ways Shri Mataji cures people. In October 1993, in Canada, a letter of congratulations was received from the Governor of British Columbia, and was read out at the public program. It thanked Mother for visiting Vancouver. The well-attended program, with more than five hundred present, went smoothly and after questions and realisation, Mother received over a hundred people on the stage. One lady with hands and body shaking came to Mother`s feet. She told Mother how it came and went. It was obviously uncontrollable and quite severe. After a few moments, Mother indicated it was a problem of the Visshuddhi chakra (at the level of the throat) and told her to first ask and then affirm the following: "Are you the Holy Spirit that Christ has sent? Then: "You are the Holy Spirit that Christ sent. The ladys upper body, arms and hands shook uncontrollably, and then stopped completely. "There, look its gone now, finished, said Mother. One man, a teacher, informed Mother he was partially blind in the left eye. The remedy, Mother said he should ask Her the question: "Are you the teacher of all teachers? He did this, and Shri Mataji continued. "You are the teacher of all teachers! She then asked him to affirm, and he did so. "How do you see? Mother asked. His eyesight was restored and everyone applauded. In the 1970s, Shri Mataji would try to explain who She was to the Sahaja Yogis at the time, relates Djamel Metouri. We had a meeting with Mother and She gave us this meditation in Her lounge where we were seven or eight people. At some stage Mother was trying to teach us who She was, trying to tell us who She was. The power of God actually just goes to the back of Me. I am like the source and its just flowing behind Me, She said. And that is when we started realizing that Mother was trying to tell us who She was.

The next account is from Heather Churchill of Perth, Australia. In the winter of 1988 the Sahaja Yogis in Australia sometimes read collectively the thousand names of the Great Goddess in Sanskrit. I had the following vision at one of these sessions. About fifteen minutes into the proceedings the room started to become strange, getting dim and brightening again every two or three seconds. Suddenly, I realized that it wasn't the room, but rather just the photograph of Shri Mataji which was before us. As I stared and stared at Mother's photograph, I realized that each time the picture dimmed it took on the appearance of a man and every time it brightened it became our Mother again. The realization hit me that I was seeing both male and female aspects of the divine power. With this realization, my heart was filled with joy and the chaitanya, the cool breeze of the vibrations, flowed from every part of my body. I felt a great bliss. My hands were no longer resting on my lap, but stretched out in front of me. I was completely astonished. The vision continued until the end of the proceedings and left me with a doubtless awareness of who Shri Mataji is. It was the most wonderful experience of my entire life.
Gregoire de Kalbermatten, whose work takes him to the corridors of power of this world, tells of a conversation with Shri Mataji which left even him completely awed.

This is an unusual conversation and it did take place. Maybe the words are not absolutely exact, but I remember faithfully the sense of it. But Mother, this is really an ugly Kali Yuga (dark age). Was there other Kali Yugas like this before? There were many other Kali Yugas before, but this is one of the worst. But then, there were also other golden ages before? Of course, the successions of yugas form a kalpa, which is your universe. When will our universe finish? If Sada Shiva interrupts it in dancing Tandava, people of God will go back to God and everything else will be destroyed. I do not think it will happen now because of Sahaja Yoga. If our universe comes and goes like this, it means there were other universes before? Yes, many. But, Shri Mataji, where do all these universes go when they are finished? They become a chakra in My body. Believe me, after this answer, no more questions. And the silence was very galactic. PHOTO OF Mother here?

By now, respected reader, if you are a seeker of truth, you will probably have felt the cool breeze when you put your hands out to one of the photographs of Shri Mataji in this book. This indicates that your own Kundalini has awakened, and you can now ask any question pertaining to absolute truth. Now it is time for you to ask the question, in whatever way you want. Choose the photo which appeals most to you, sit comfortably, and with sincerity and humility, ask one of the following questions. If you feel a cool breeze on your hands, this indicates yes, this is the truth. Shri Mataji, are You the Comforter, the Spirit of Truth, promised and prophesied by Christ at the Last Supper?
Shri Mataji, are You the Maitreya, the future Buddha, the mother (Ma) in three (tre) aspects who will come to give en masse enlightenment in the darkest age of human history?

Shri Mataji, are You Shri Kalki, the tenth incarnation of Shri Vishnu, who will take humanity from ignorance to wisdom, who will destroy ignorance and bring about the golden age? Shri Mataji, are You the one who will give resurrection (kundalini awakening) on the Day of Judgment, the Kyama time, and through whom our hands will speak, and bear witness to all that we have done? Or, Shri Mataji, are You Fatima, the daughter of the prophet Mohammed? Shri Mataji, are You the greatest incarnation of the divine who has ever come on earth? Have You come with all your powers, to help humanity in our greatest hour of need? We, all the writers of this book, believe these statements to be true, on the basis of our experience and the experience of thousands of others like us. The choice to accept or reject this is yours because the greatest gift of the divine to humanity is free will, and no one can and will cross that. The Sahasrara Chakra is the final development of the subtle nervous system within man, enabling him to rise in every sense above the world of mental activity and emotional concepts. The collective consciousness which arises when the Kundalini energy rises through the Sahasrara chakra allows direct perception of reality on the central nervous system. We can know ourselves as Pure Spirit: pure joy, pure attention, pure truth. Vibratory awareness allows our perception to transcend the senses and go to the essence of all creation. Once the Sahasrara Chakra is opened, all the others can be purified and enriched. Often at the same time, and sometimes a little later, a great expansion of the heart takes place, and a sense of deep, radiating joy is experienced as the Heart Chakra, which is the seat of the spirit within each of us, opens. Here is a description of the opening of the primordial Sahasrara Chakra, as related by Her Holiness Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Herself. It is a quote from Shri Matajis own book, Meta Modern Era, where She explains that She was so shocked at what a so

called guru was doing to his followers, when She visited him, that She knew the time had come to give en masse Self Realization.The last centrereferred to is the Sahasrara chakra, at the top of the head. I was amazed to see this man, who was ten years younger than me, looking at least twenty years older than me. But he mesmerised all the people, and they shouted and screamed and some barked like dogs. Just by mesmerising, he was taking them to their past. This really shocked me. I was sitting under a tree to watch what he was doing. At night I went alone to the seashore, and sat there alone meditating about how, somehow or other, I could use my own Kundalini for the en masse realisation of the people. That was the moment when it worked, and it clicked. I was surprised, that with a little deeper penetration, I could work it out. The experience was like this. I saw my own Kundalini rising very fast like a telescope opening out and it was the beautiful colour that you see when iron is heated up, a red, rose colour, but extremely cooling and soothing. The Kundalaini went through my Fontanelle bone area (Brahma Randrha) which was open from my childhood and was pouring out Divine vibrations. (Puranabrahma). But this new experience gave me a new dimension of understanding of my Divine force. It came like a very promising reality that it was time for me to start my collective work. I found that the whole of my being was filled with great peace and joy. I opened my eyes, went to this false master and told him: Now the last centre can be opened for everyone.