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DIY Lightning Wand a Handheld Van de Graaff Generator

by yardleydobon on February 28, 2010 Table of Contents DIY Lightning Wand a Handheld Van de Graaff Generator . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Intro: DIY Lightning Wand a Handheld Van de Graaff Generator . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 1: Materials and Tools . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 2: Motor and Bottom Roller . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 3: Bottom Comb and Battery Holder . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 4: Belt . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 5: Column, Upper Roller, and Collector . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 6: Complete Assembly . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 7: Fiddling and Debugging . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Step 8: FUN . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Related Instructables . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Comments . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 7 7 9 9

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Intro: DIY Lightning Wand a Handheld Van de Graaff Generator

Most instructions for building a Van de Graaff generator (VDG) are for tabletop models; however VDGs grounded through a person work well enough to make a handheld version possible. The Fun Fly Stick, a popular toy, is an example of a handheld VDG. This instructable will show you how to make your own handheld VDG capable of producing sparks up to an inch long with a few common items. WARNING: Keep the VDG away from all electronics, including pacemakers, hearing aids, and the cell phone you forgot was in your pocket. A VDG is an ESD monster!

Step 1: Materials and Tools

Materials [1] 3/4" Schedule 40 PVC pipe [1] 3/4" PVC Tee [1] 3/4" PVC Cap [3] 3 1/2" x 1/4" Rubber bands (No. 64) [1] Super Glue [1] Hot Glue [1] 3 ft 16 AWG Stranded Wire (can be taken from old extension cord) [1] Motor (like Radio Shack #273-223) [1] 4xAA Battery Holder (like Radio Shack #270-391) [1] Wooden Dowel [1] Aluminum Foil [1] Aluminum Can [1] Wide-mouth Plastic Bottle like a 32 oz Gatorade bottle [1] Paper clip [1] polyvinyl chloride electrical tape (Scotch 3M 33+ and 35 both work) [1] Teflon tape [1] glass bead [url:http://www.artbeads.com/czech-glass-rondelle-9mm.html] Tools Pocket Knife Can Opener Wire stripper Saw Drill or Lighter, Nail, and Screw Hot Glue Gun Alligator Lead or Stiff Wire hooked at the end Paper clip Before starting, wash your hands and prepare a clean work area. The three enemies of a VDG are oil, water, and dirt. Therefore you should clean and thoroughly dry every part before construction. Use nonsoapy water only since soap can leave a conductive film. Before touching the rollers or belt wipe your hands to remove any excess oil.

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Step 2: Motor and Bottom Roller

The motor doesn't quite fit in the PVC Tee. Cut about 18 in of electrical tape; then cut this strip lengthwise. Now wrap the strips around the end of the motor closest to the terminals. Add or remove bits of tape until the motor fits. To create the bottom roller, cut a narrow strip of polyvinyl chloride electrical tape and wrap it around the motor's shaft. The best way to get the tape to wrap around the shaft is by pinching the tape to the shaft and rolling it between your thumb and index finger. You also want to crown the roller (make it thicker in the middle) by pulling your index finger slightly to the right for a couple turns then pushing back to the left for a couple more turns repeatedly as you roll on the tape. A crowned roller will keep the rubber band from slipping off the roller. Add a bit of super glue to the end of the tape strip to prevent it from unrolling, also add a little super glue to the edge of the roller to bind all the layers of tape together. I tried making rollers out of Teflon tape and silicone rubber, both of which are lower on the triboelectric series, but a roller made from electrical tape was easiest to work with. I did not know what material the generic black electrical tape I had was made from, so to be positive the bottom roller was vinyl electrical tape I used blue 3M 35, but 33+ should work well too.

Step 3: Bottom Comb and Battery Holder

Now you need to drill a hole in the Tee for the bottom comb. You can also make a hole with a heated nail, and use a screw to widen it. Do this in a well ventilated area. See the pictures below, for proper placement of the hole. Next, cut a length of wire about 8 in long and strip 0.25 in of insulation from each end. Insert the wire into the hole and tape it to the Tee like the picture shows. Not taping the wire at the hole will allow you to adjust the distance of the comb from the roller so that you can find the optimum distance once you have the generator built and running. The Radio Shack motor is meant to run at 1.5-3V, but if you use rechargeable batteries you can run the motor at 3.6V without too much trouble. A higher motor voltage causes the motor to turn at a higher RPM which results in more HV at the collector. I didn't have a 3xAA battery holder so I made a dummy battery out of a piece of wooden dowel cut to the same length as a AA, wrapped that in aluminum foil and insulated the sides with electrical tape. Hot glue the battery holder to the side of the Tee. The Radio Shack motor has very thin brushes and lacks in construction quality. It gets the job done, but I'm positive there is a better motor out there waiting to take its place. Suggestions for a new motor a more than welcome.

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Step 4: Belt
A longer belt causes a larger charge separation which means a higher voltage will result at the collector. Turning three rubber bands into one long rubber band is easy with a pair of scissors and super glue. Brand new rubber bands are a bit stiff, so stretch them out to loosen them up. Now cut each rubber band. Try to make a very straight cut, so that when you glue the ends together they will make good contact. Place a drop of super glue on a piece of paper and spread it around with a toothpick. Now dip the end of one rubber band in the glue and adjoin it to the end of another rubber band. Don't overlap the edges; you want to directly affix one cut end to the other. Also don't use too much glue; you don't want a glue bond, you want the glue to heat the edges of the rubber bands so that they fuse together. Hold the edges together for around 10 seconds and don't stretch it for 30 seconds. A proper bond can be stretched quite far, much further than required for the VDG. Repeat, until you've made one large rubber band, minding not to twist it. Tips Too little glue is better than too much. Even if the bond doesn't occur along the entire edge, you can still see what the proper bond should look like before trying again. Don't be afraid to mess up. The bound sets quickly, so you know right away whether the result is any good, and if it's not just trim the ends and try again. You should use brand new rubber bands; old dirty rubber bands aren't worth the trouble.

Step 5: Column, Upper Roller, and Collector

The column is a piece of 3/4" PVC that holds the upper roller and supports the aluminum can collector. Cut two lengths of PVC; the column will be 11 in, and the handle 4 in. Now drill a hole 0.5 in from the top of the column. Remove any burrs from the PVC. Wash and dry to remove any PVC dust. The upper roller is a 9x6 mm roundelle Czech glass bead purchased from artbeads.com. Artbeads.com has no minimum order with free shipping, but please don't take advantage of them by spending less than a dollar; buy a few beads. The axis for the roller is made from a paper clip that has been straightened and formed into an L shape. Stick the paper clip through the holes in the column and trim the excess. Now curve the axel inward slightly. Wrap a little Teflon tape around the axel, and slip the bead over it. The slippery Teflon tape will prevent the paper clip from grinding the bead. Now tape two narrow strips of electrical tape on either side of the bead. You can use a wire stripper to cut away excess tape. These bumpers keep the bead from sliding to the left or right on the axel when you wave the VDG around. The holes in the column are of course too small to pass the bead and bumpers, so you must insert the assembly in the end of the PVC, hook the bottom of the L into one hole, then push the other end of the axel into the other hole. To make the upper comb, cut 8 in of wire, strip 0.25 in from one end, which will be the upper comb, and 1 in from the other. Shape the wire around the column like the picture shows, then tape the wire to the column. Spread out the comb's strands and twist together the strands on the other end. The comb points at the roller when the generator is running, but can be easily moved out of the way to remove the upper roller assembly. The collector is made of an aluminum can with the lid removed. First remove the can's tab. The aluminum can's lid can be cut out with a sharp knife but using a handheld

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can opener is much safer and leaves fewer sharp edges. Use a paper napkin to keep the wheel with teeth from puncturing the can. The can opener should be used like scissors to remove the lid; don't twist. The collector's support is made from a Gatorade or similar bottle. Trace the circumference of a piece of PVC onto the bottles lid. Remove the material from the lid within the circle. Place the aluminum can onto the bottle and trace a circle around the bottle where its neck meets the can. Cut the neck off the bottle using the line as reference. Don't cut exactly on the line, but leave a little excess, which can be trimmed away later if necessary. Screw the lid back onto the neck of the bottle and insert it onto the column starting from the bottom.

Image Notes 1. toothpick for reference scale only

Step 6: Complete Assembly

Loop the rubber band onto the upper roller and insert the roller assembly into its holes. Thread an alligator lead through the column, hook the rubber band, and pull it through the column. Pinch a loop into the end of the rubber band and hook it onto the lower roller. Insert the column into the Tee. Look down into the column to make sure the rubber band is not twisted and everything is lined up. Point the upper comb at the rubber band. Make sure neither comb is touching the rubber band. Place the aluminum can onto the column. Push the support up until the can rests on it. Use a couple pieces of electrical tape to affix the can to the support. Later you can glue the bottle neck to the can, but make sure the hole in the bottle is large enough to pass the PVC with the upper wire attached. The end of the upper comb's wire should make contact with the inside of the aluminum can. Place a 3/4" PVC cap onto the handle and insert it into the Tee. Grip the end of the lower comb's wire (aka ground wire) while holding the handle. Apply power to the motor. With a lot of luck you'll feel a static charge on the collector when you move your hand near. To prevent the VDG from producing sparks you can cover the collector with a piece of cardboard. The VDG will still perform most of the same stunts including the merciless destruction of electronic devices.

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Step 7: Fiddling and Debugging

This VDG design works well when it works, but can be very vexing when it doesn't. Don't lose heart. If you apply power to the motor and it doesn't turn, remove power immediately. Attach a thin strip of toilet paper to the collector. As the collector charges, the tissue paper will rise. If you've got things working well, it will rise quickly and point almost straight up. You can also get a good idea how well the collector is charging by holding it close your ear. You will feel a stronger pull on the tiny hairs on your ear as well as hear more static crackles and pops when the VDG is working well. If the rubber band is too tight the motor will not turn or turn slowly. Push the column further into the Tee or remove a bit of PVC from the end of the column. If the rubber band is too loose it will make poor contact with the rollers and not turn it as fast as it could. If the rubber band slaps around pull the column out of the Tee a little. If the column is way too short you'll have to cut another longer one. Make sure the combs aren't touching the belt. The combs should be about an eightth of an inch from the belt. Remember you didn't tape down the bottom comb so you could adjust it; once you've found the optimal distance secure it. Van de Graaff generators will fail to work when the air is very humid. Use a hair dryer to blow out any moisture from inside the VDG. Make sure you're touching the ground wire when you hold the handle. When not using your VDG, unhook the rubber band so it doesn't deform and lose its elasticity. Taping the bottle neck to the collector along with some extra tape on the bottom of the collector will help prevent losses due to brush discharge. If you use an ohmeter to test the resistance of the inside of the can, you'll see that it has a nonconductive coating. The coating makes little difference at the high voltage a Van de Graaff generator produces, so don't bother scraping the coating off the can.

Step 8: FUN
Turn off the lights. Observe corona discharge by pointing a finger at the collector; the tip of your finger should have a blue glow. Hold the back of your hand near the bottle lid to cause brush discharge. This will look like lots of little lightning bolts. Draw a spark from the collector by moving one of your second knuckles towards the collector. If you've got your VDG working well you should be able to draw sparks a little over an inch long. Since dielectric breakdown of air is approximately 84kV/in (33kV/cm) this tells us the collector voltage is around 84 kV! Tape a needle to the the top of the collector and hold you're hand over the tip of the needle. You should feel a cool breeze. This is called ionic wind.

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Ring Franklin's bells. I like to set up Franklin's bells without a grounding wire; normally the can on the right in the video below would be grounded. Without the grounding wire the tab/clapper transfers charge between the cans until both cans are at the same voltage as the VDG. Then one can turn off the VDG, set it aside, and then discharge the second can; lo and behold, the bells start ringing again as if by magic.

Cause an incandescent light bulb to flash a violet-blue. A burnt out bulb works fine. Cover the glass with some clear tape to prevent shattering if the glass breaks.

Bend a thin stream of water. Deflect soap bubbles. Light a small neon bulb. Stick paper to a wall. Levitate Fun Fly Stick fliers. Check out Prof. Bunsen's Fun Fly Stick video for various demostrations of a handheld VDG's powers.

Bill Beaty's website describes some other interesting VDG stunts. _NOT FUN _ Giving a shock to someone who isn't expecting it sounds like good fun, but it's a bad idea. Though the current and pain will be minimal, the surprise of the shock could cause a person to jump back reflexively and hurt themselves. It's also possible you could destroy an expensive or essential electronic device they have on them. You can make a CFL bulb glow, but you probably shouldn't. Once I was making a CFL glow while holding it in my hand when I received a shock much brighter, louder, and more painful than anything I've received from the VDG by itself. Unlike an ordinary fluorescent tube a CFL has an integrated starter and ballast. This circuitry contains capacitors which will charge slowly from the VDG, but will release that charge all at once with the result being a higher current and a bigger shock. If the shock doesn't harm you, the surprise of it could cause you to drop the bulb releasing mercury and broken glass into your surroundings.

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Never charge a capacitor with a VDG unless you understand the risks involved. A VDG is a high voltage but very low current device. A capacitor can have high voltage and supply a potentially deadly current.

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Adum24 says:
What would happen if I had my phone in my pocket while using this. What exactly does it do to cell phones?

Feb 14, 2011. 3:54 PM REPLY

peacefoots says:
i was using it with my phone for 3 hours and didnt do anything to it

Mar 5, 2011. 6:36 AM REPLY

yardleydobon says:

Mar 5, 2011. 12:29 AM REPLY high voltage is bad for electronics. it will destroy a MOSFETs oxide layer ruining the chip. of course people generate high voltage static electricity all the time and cell phones are designed to cope with this, but why risk it?

whiteboyninja says:
About how much does it cost to make?

Feb 8, 2011. 2:20 PM REPLY

yardleydobon says:
$15 or less depending on how much stuff you already have. $15 if you have absolutely none of the materials.

Mar 5, 2011. 12:10 AM REPLY

peacefoots says:
it cost me considering i had the rubber bands and soda can 12.00

Feb 8, 2011. 7:51 PM REPLY

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yardleydobon says:
sounds like you got it completed. great!

Mar 5, 2011. 12:11 AM REPLY

peacefoots says:
yeah it works great and i won 3 in a science fair with

Mar 5, 2011. 6:35 AM REPLY

peacefoots says:

Jan 27, 2011. 2:36 PM REPLY i have a metal orb that would be perfect for this but it has a 1/8 inch hole. Does that matter and if so how could i make the hole bigger?

Mr. Bricoleur says:

Jan 14, 2011. 11:56 PM REPLY do you think small ID vinyl tubing for the bottom roller (maybe some cellophane tape to thicken the motor shaft up a bit) and a small ID nylon spacer on top will work as well? i took a look at the triboelectric scale and these are opposites. Plus, it's all I have around. I can't find the electrical tape.

Dreistein says:
i have the exact same bead just green

Dec 14, 2010. 3:07 AM REPLY

wareneutron says:
next time i make it own

Nov 7, 2010. 10:48 PM REPLY

jpoopdog says:
technicaly speaking, could this produce a near constant arc, that could be used to ignite gas in a potatoe launcher?

Oct 11, 2010. 10:43 PM REPLY

jpoopdog says:

Oct 11, 2010. 10:37 PM REPLY i dont mean to complain or anything, but, theres not quite enough images orf the vdg generators internals, perhaps if you cant get some more photos, try some illistrations, i stil dont get how it works because i dont see what it looks like inside, you know what i mean

fundash says:
Can I simply modify a fun fly stick to be more powerful???

Sep 28, 2010. 8:06 PM REPLY

yusuf786 says:
wow cool wish i had one looks like i got to do it soon

Sep 14, 2010. 6:00 AM REPLY

M4industries says:

Jun 28, 2010. 8:08 AM REPLY I saw a commercial for this once. The ad boasted it used "Weird Science" to do all the things it claimed to do. It said nothing about electrostatics or it being a VDG. It really is frightening when the youth of America can recognize Ronald McDonald at age 4, and know how to update a Twitter status, but they don't know how their own toys work.

lasermaster3531 says:
in step 8, you said the dielectric breakdown of air is 84kv/inch or 3.3kv/cm, but it is really 8.4kv/inch or 3.3kv/cm. please fix.

May 10, 2010. 5:04 PM REPLY

yardleydobon says:

May 21, 2010. 11:36 AM REPLY It says: "Since dielectric breakdown of air is approximately 84kV/in (33kV/cm) this tells us the collector voltage is around 84 kV!" From the wikipedia article on high voltage : "The dielectric breakdown strength of dry air, at Standard Temperature and Pressure (STP), between spherical electrodes is approximately 33 kV/cm." (33 kV/cm)*(2.54 cm/in) = 83.82 kV/in From the Physics Factbook : ""The dielectric strength of air is about 3 106 V/m" 3 106 V = 3000 kV, 1 m = 100 cm (3000 kV/100 cm) = (30 kV/cm) = (30 kv/cm)*(2.54 cm/in) = 76.2 kV/in No correction will be made, as no correction is necessary.

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lasermaster3531 says:

May 24, 2010. 2:53 PM REPLY okay, I concede that the dielectric strength of dry air between large spherical electrodes is 33kv/cm, but I have a 6,000 volt cockroft-walton voltage multiplier that can spark 1.5 centimeters, thus proving that the dielectric breakdown of air can fluctuate greatly according to the shape of your electrodes and the dryness and pressure of the air. judging from the fact that most people's hands are not smooth spheres of metal, the spark length of this vandegraaf generator is probably extended due to the brush discharge effect. the skin on a person's hand is generally kind of rough on a small scale and this can cause a lower voltage to jump considerably farther.

EbolaZaire says:

May 11, 2010. 10:34 AM REPLY I'm having a really difficult time keeping the first roller in place. If anybody knows, what can I use to to keep the paperclip in place inside of the PVC?

yardleydobon says:

May 21, 2010. 11:55 AM REPLY I never had a problem with the paper clip moving around. Did you tape the paper clip to the PVC? You could take the eraser from the end of a pencil and stick that on the end of the axel that's opposite the bend, then wrap tape tightly from the eraser, around the PVC, around bend and back around to the eraser a few times to secure it the paperclip firmly in place. This will make disassembly more of a pain though. A wandering roller is the biggest problem with this design. Try fine tuning the tightness of the belt by pushing/pulling the column in/out of the Tee a little. You can also try twisting the column to give the belt a bit of a twist. It's nice to hear from someone that's actually trying to make it.

EbolaZaire says:

May 22, 2010. 8:38 PM REPLY Then you'll be glad to hear that it works with flying colours! I made it, and it worked beautifully. I added some electrical tape on the rims of the lower roller, because I kept having issues with the belt.

yardleydobon says:

May 24, 2010. 10:13 AM REPLY Great! Make sure to give your knuckles a rest. Those zaps can really add up. Try it out with a light bulb too; that's the coolest!

pie R []ed says:

May 16, 2010. 12:55 AM REPLY I am a steampunk and already have a fun fly stick. I didn't know it was a van de graph. I will probably make a longer belt and turn it into some sort of gadgetry. May 2, 2010. 10:53 AM REPLY Here's a tip on cutting the rubber bands to join them. If you overlap the ends a bit, then cut through both of them, the ends will match up without you having to worry about the cuts being perfectly straight.

screaminscott says:

elelove says:
It's a clever idea to create the roller!

Apr 10, 2010. 8:59 PM REPLY

dombeef says:
Do i need the coke can on it or can it be without it?

Mar 8, 2010. 5:40 PM REPLY

Learndy says:

Mar 27, 2010. 6:43 AM REPLY Can't tell from experience. I am still building one. My first own van-de-Graaff-generator. It's so exciting! However, from theory I know that the charge collector should have a smooth round surface. Any edges, corners, and dents concentrate charge which leads to coronary discharge. And you want this device to collect as much voltage as possible, don't you? ;-) I bought a coke can this morning. I'm not even sure if the pressure-standing edge at the bottom is a problem. We'll see. Don't worry, I'll post a report since I am using some different materials. -Airspace V - international hangar flying! http://www.airspace-v.com/ggadgets for tools & toys

yardleydobon says:

Mar 8, 2010. 6:21 PM REPLY You must have a collector, but it doesn't have to be an aluminum can. Step 6 has a picture that shows two cardboard collectors made to slip over an aluminum can, but also shows a toilet paper tube that can be used alone. If you use a cardboard collector you won't get any sparks. The Fun Fly Stick uses a cardboard collector to prevent sparking because it's a child's toy. Even with a cardboard collector you can still charge metal objects by induction, which will spark.

greenninja28 says:
You can buy one of those from thinkgeek.com, that looks just likethe one they have (the blue one)

Mar 17, 2010. 2:01 PM REPLY

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Arduino Guy says:

Instead of the glass bead you can heat the ends of a fuse and slop the caps off and you will have a glass tube.

Mar 12, 2010. 4:16 AM REPLY

yardleydobon says:
Please see the cowscankill thread for a discussion on glass bead versus glass tube.

Mar 12, 2010. 5:21 PM REPLY

Jur says:

Mar 3, 2010. 5:27 AM REPLY Great job! Clear and precise instructions for an easy and fun combination of toy and science. Just a thought for possible improvment: one could maybe use a piece of bicycle tubing instead of the rubberbands, just cut a length and glue once instead of gluing several times. =)

yardleydobon says:
Thank you for the kind praise.

Mar 3, 2010. 2:35 PM REPLY

It's best to avoid rubber materials that are black because they could contain carbon making them conductive. However, it should be noted that the Fun Fly Stick belt is black. The electrons need to be conveyed by the belt not conducted. I hypothesize that the multiple bonds make the belt less conductive overall, thereby improving performance. Plus once you learn to make a proper bond you can turn an ordinary, boring rubber band into a fashionable mobius strip bracelet.

Jur says:

Mar 8, 2010. 2:19 AM REPLY Oh, I had no idea about that. Good to know though =) I just might use the bicycle tubing for a Mbius strip bracelet instead, that way it would be much more customizable. I think I need to grow a couple of extra arms, I have way too many ideas for bracelets now =P Mar 2, 2010. 1:50 PM REPLY

cowscankill says:
Really cool! This would be an awesome project, but what if I don't/can't have a glass bead?

yardleydobon says:

Mar 2, 2010. 2:46 PM REPLY Well you can remove the terminals from a 5x20mm fuse and use the glass as your upper roller. This is what I initially used, but it has some downsides. It requires the you to use a PVC coupler since the inside diameter of PVC pipe is not big enough to fit the fuse. Also since the fuse is long it tends to rub the side and allow the rubber band to wander away from the comb. Finally, removing the terminals from the fuse can be frustrating and horribly smelly. You can try a nylon spacer available at hardware stores. I tried this but didn't get good results. Perhaps you'll have better luck. See the wikipedia article on triboelectric series for more materials.

cowscankill says:

Mar 3, 2010. 1:21 PM REPLY Do I have to use a specific kind of glass object? What if I happen to have some glass rods for no reason? I think I have some, about... 5 mm maybe?

yardleydobon says:

Mar 6, 2010. 3:41 PM REPLY I tried four different glass beads and a fuse. They had different colors and sizes but they all worked about the same at generating HV. Glass tubes allow the rubber band to wander away from the comb. I saw a youtube video where a someone used a christmas tree light bulb. You can remove the ink reservior from a dryed up pen, cut it to size, and glue it inside the glass tube to get it to roll better. I recommend using a glass bead. They are only $0.30. You can probably find a cheap bracelet made of glass beads locally too.

cowscankill says:

Mar 7, 2010. 6:24 AM REPLY Neat-o! I think if I get around to making this project, I will try the Christmas tree bulb first. If that doesn't work, I will buy a bead. Oh, and this is useful info; you should put this information in your instructable.

yardleydobon says:

Mar 7, 2010. 3:15 PM REPLY Here's a link to the youtube video that uses a christmas tree light bulb. There is a quick freeze frame that shows the light bulb is supported by notches in the end of the PVC. The point of this instructable is not to give you various was you can construct a VDG. Search the web if you want more information like that. The point is to give you a cookbook recipe to contruct a handheld VDG that can be waved around. If you use a tube or christmas tree light bulb, the belt will move away from the comb as you change the orientation of the VDG. Using a longer roller might also make it necessary to use a PVC coupler for it's larger inside diameter. However, a PVC coupler has a larger outside diameter as well and will not pass through the hole in a gatorade bottle. This means you will not be able to permanently tape the bottle to the can.

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codongolev says:
the cfl didn't act as a capacitor. the two giant hefty capacitors inside the cfl acted as a capacitor. ouch.

Mar 2, 2010. 3:03 PM REPLY

yardleydobon says:

Mar 2, 2010. 4:05 PM REPLY Yes, I believe that is most probably the correct explanation. Though causing a displacement current by applying a voltage across a dielectric (glass) is all you need to have a capacitor. I wonder if I could get the same effect from an ordinary incandescent light bulb. I think all of us have seen demonstrations of ordinary fluorescent tubes (just gas in a tube) lighting up when held near a tesla coil, so I don't think it takes a big leap of imagination for someone to get the idea to try the same thing with a CFL. However, this is actually a bad idea, because a CFL is not just a fluorescent tube but a fluorescent tube plus a starter and a ballast. A picture I found shows two 8.4uF 250V caps plus a couple more electrolytics in the uF range. I admit saying the CFl acted like a capacitor was lazy of me. Thanks for making me think more about it.

jcomtois says:

Mar 4, 2010. 6:18 PM REPLY You can disassemble the base of the CFL and remove the ballast circuitry leaving just the bulb with its leads. Connect one to ground and the other to a touchplate. Or just reconnect them to the screw-base and connect the wires via a lamp socket to hold the bulb upright. I did this to add some interest to a grounding disc that I use to discharge myself when I get out of my computer chair, which can build up quite a charge depending on what type of fabric I am wearing.

codongolev says:
ha... that would be cool to explain. "what's that?" "my discharging plate." "what's it do?" "this." *gets in chair, wiggles, gets back up, touches plate, bulb lights up* "sometimes I acquire too much magic while I'm sitting there, so I have to get rid of it."

Mar 5, 2010. 12:44 PM REPLY

jcomtois says:

Mar 5, 2010. 8:56 PM REPLY I posted an instructable on building the touchplate. I'd post a link but I don't work this site often so I don't know how to point to another instructable.

yardleydobon says:
Here's a link to it.

Mar 6, 2010. 3:54 AM REPLY

jcomtois says:
Thanks, just a regular link I guess. http://www.instructables.com/id/Static-discharge-toy/

Mar 6, 2010. 4:08 AM REPLY

yardleydobon says:

Mar 2, 2010. 4:53 PM REPLY I just tested an ordinary 90W incandescent bulb. I was unable to make it act like a capacitor. However, the whole bulb glows violet-blue when a spark is transmitted. I believe this is from the argon briefly turning to plasma.

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