Welding electrode for API5L- grade X-60 & X-65 04/10/2008 1:01 AM Wish to know , 1)To weld API-5L

grade X-60 & X-65 , can we use electrode E-7016-P1 , which is specified as alternate to E-8010-P1. Few electrode manufaturuer have indicated that it can be used up to X-65 grade. 2) Can we use E-7018 for this application? thanks.
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Comments rated to be Good Answers: These comments received enough positive ratings to make them "good answers". #5 "Re: Welding electrode for API5L- grade X-60 & X-65 " by Abdel Halim Galala on 04/11/2008 3:58 AM (score 2) bwire Guru Re: Welding electrode for API5L- grade X-60 & X-65 04/10/2008 1:44 AM Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upper Midwest USA Posts: 2260 Good Answers: 12 jamkingyg Participant Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4 Re: Welding electrode for API5L- grade X-60 & X-65 04/10/2008 11:01 PM Yes and no __________________ bwise
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hi,maybe,but i am supply aluminum alloy welding wires&rods i don't know too much about other products
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rajiv_damani Associate Re: Welding electrode for API5L- grade X-60 & X-65 04/11/2008 12:32 AM Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 37 Dear Sir,

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E 7016 or E 7018 to be frankly speaking, is suggested, in the welding industry where there are jobs to be welded amongst unidentified metals. Or E 7016 GRADE is suggested many a times, to create a cushion or buffer layer for applying hard facing electrodes. I not knowing the exact chemistry for your suggested metal, this both grade should work on prima facie. It would be more nice if you could elaborate the major chemistry of your metals. Again, E 7016 or E 7018 type of electrodes are availables with several reputed companies, in conventional and maintenance arc electrodes. I would suggest you rather to go with maintenance where upfront cost might be higher than conventional but longitivity of the job or in other words the life of the application is more durably longer. Again, you'll need a specific power source for igniting E 7018 electrodes in conventional type [minimum of 80 OCV] which is not the case with maintenance types. Hope to know the chemistry of your metal THANKS & REGARDS RAJIV DAMANI __________________ ... ... ... addicted ... to WIN
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#4 In reply to #3 Re: Welding electrode for API5L- grade X-60 & X-65 04/11/2008 12:56 AM

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Yes 7018 is loosely considered an all around rod with certain specific limiting factors not often observed. 7018 is helpful when using chromoly and or some combinations of dissimilar metals but is just plain overkill when and old coat hanger will do.

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2 Abdel Halim Galala Guru Re: Welding electrode for API5L- grade X-60 & X-65 04/11/2008 3:58 AM You can start with electrodes E7010 or E7010-G for the first pass and fill & cover with E7018, and take into consideration that the low hydrogen family of EXX15, EXX16 and EXX18 must be heated to about 250oC before using (see instructions on the box or can) to minimize the moisture which produces hydrogen, and the electrodes must be used in the hot condition (please read perfectly the instructions). Also, E7018 must be used in uphill direction (not downhill) and this instruction can be also readable at box or from Electrode Datasheet obtained from supplier. A lot of details you have to know before applying the process such as volt, ampere, speed, ...etc., by reading the Electrode Datasheet. For that purpose (your question and my suggestions), the ASME code, Section IX, ask you to prepare a Welding Procedure Specifications, WPS's and a Procedure Qualification Record, PQR's to satisfy yourself that your procedure, filler metal, base metals, welding parameters, ... etc. are all combined to produce a sound weldment.
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Good Answer (Score 2) No more Good Answers. Guest #6 Re: Welding electrode for API5L- grade X-60 & X-65 04/11/2008 8:36 AM The key to your instructions was the 8010 designation. I would suggest Lincoln 8018-B2. 80,000 psi all position Jetweld. h2om@hotmail.com
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Re: Welding electrode for API5L- grade X-60 & X-65 04/11/2008 11:22 AM Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upper Midwest USA Posts: 2260 Good Answers: 12 Agreed __________________ bwise
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Off Topic (Score 5) AbdulWasay Associate Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 33 Re: Welding electrode for API5L- grade X-60 & X-65 04/15/2008 3:42 AM Selection of electrodes are not merely based on compatibility with the Work (Pipes & Plates). It is most importantly selected after identifying the welding technique that is Vertical Up Hill welding or Vertical Down Hill Welding. All electrodes are not suitable for VUH Welding and VDH Welding. Therefore a Contractor chooses welding techniques to a specific job first, then he select the electrodes. Simple answer to this question is yes you can weld X-60 or 65 with E-7016. But the point is how many joints in how big spread and what quality of weld one is looking for. If you want to match the tensile strength, yes all three electrodes (E-7016, E-7018 and E-8010 would match or produce stronger weld joint than the pipe, but all electrodes are not suitable for selected welding techniques. Therefore first determine whether you are welding cross-country pipeline, refinery joints or station terminals. Then you work out the progress per day according to the schedule, Then you select welding technique and then electrodes. Mind you all success is based on the Mechanical Test of the Weld Coupons in Procedure Qualification Test. When every thing has worked good, your selected electrodes are perfect. Mind you E-7016 electrode is extreemly low hydrogen electrodes and not recommended for VDH welding when you want to produce satisfactory weld. #8