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Kenneth Ortega
%Co&'re$tor(Creator o" )hs Is It*
Pla#t""s+ ,t#ess-
Judge: .e"ore /e $all the 0ury1 Kather#e Ja$2so# versus AEG Lve- Goo! a"ter#oo#-
Mr. Putnam: Goo! a"ter#oo#1 your ho#or-
Judge: Cou#sel1 $a# you 3u$2ly 4a2e your appeara#$es5
Mr. Panish: .ra# Pa#sh "or Pla#t""s-
Mr. Boyle: Kev# .oyle "or Pla#t""s-
Ms. Stebbins: Jess$a Ste66#s .#a "or the 'e"e#!a#ts-
Mr. Putnam: 7arv# Put#a4 "or the 'e"e#!a#ts-
Judge: All r8ht- '! you resolve your e9h6t ssue5
Mr. Panish: I hope so-
Mr. Boyle: I th#2 /e !!-
Mr. Panish: I" there+s a# ssue1 7r- Put#a4 /ll tell us-
Judge: O2ay- I 4ea#1 I /as th#2#8 a6out ths last #8ht1 a#! Pla#t""s have 8o#e throu8h a#!

!e#t"e! e9h6ts "or so4e part$ular area1 a#! 'e"e#!a#ts have#+t !o#e that- :ou lste! !s$overy
pa8es1 /h$h s#+t e9a$tly the approprate /ay to lst e9h6ts- So I hope ths !oes#+t 6e$o4e a pro6le4
later o#- :ou+re suppose! to lst your e9h6ts /th so4e part$ularty1 #ot 0ust !s$overy pa8es- A#! I
th#2 so4e6o!y ha! spo2e# && o#e o" the $ler2s ha! spo2e# to you a6out that- I 0ust !o#+t /a#t t to
6e$o4e a pro6le41 6e$ause t+s the opposte o" /hat you+re say#8 to!ay- )o!ay you+re say#8 Pla#t""s
!!#+t have so4eth#8 o# ther e9h6t lst1 a#! you+re upset a6out that- .ut you+ve sort o" ta2e# the
opposte ta$t1 /h$h s put 1;1000 pa8es # our e9h6t lst /thout !e#t"y#8 the4 # a#y part$ularty
so /e 4a2e sure everyth#8 s o# t- .ut " you !o#+t !e#t"y /hat the !o$u4e#ts are1 t+s as " you !o#+t
eve# have a# e9h6t lst1 so &&
Ms. Stebbins: )hat+s #ot 3ute true1 your ho#or- Our !o$u4e#ts a$tually !e#t"y the e9a$t 6ates ra#8e
"or ea$h !o$u4e#t use!- So /e /e#t throu8h everyth#8 a#! !e#t"e! ea$h s#8le !o$u4e#t- So #o#e
o" ours s 4ore tha# o#e && every te4 o# our lst s a s#8le e9h6t e9$ept "or 4ay6e a $ouple at the
very e#!1 e9pert !epos /here /e reserve! the4- Every other o#e $orrespo#!s to a s#8le !e#t"a6le
e9h6t1 a#! 6oth partes have the 6ates #u46ers- I# Pla#t""s+ $ase1 /hat they+ve !o#e # 4a#y
#sta#$es s !e#t"y a s#8le e9h6t as a# e#tre pro!u$to#- So1 "or e9a4ple1 e9h6t < s a6out 101000
pa8es lo#8- So they have o#e e#or4ous pro!u$to# as a s#8le e9h6t- =or the 4ost part1 t+s /or2e!
"#e1 your ho#or- ,hat $a4e up as a# ssue /as1 Pla#t""s ha! !o$u4e#ts that ha! 6ee# pro!u$e! #
!s$overy that /ere #ot put o# ther e9h6t lst1 eve# 6y 6ates #u46ers1 /h$h the 'e"e#!a#ts
!e#t"e! thers- It+s 0ust #ot o# the e9h6t lst at all- A#! /hat they ha! 6ee# !o#81 a#! /hat /e
a8ree! to !o 6e"ore1 s that " they !! that1 they /oul! 0ust let us 2#o/1 >hey1 ths o#e s #ot o# the lst->
a#! " /e ha! a#y o60e$to# at that po#t1 /e /oul! rase t- ,hat has happe#e! a $ouple t4es1 s they
have#+t "la88e! t as a #e/ e9h6t1 so that+s /here the ssues $o4e up- )he rest s "la88e!1 a#! "or the
4ost part1 /e+ve 6ee# a6le to /or2 th#8s out /thout a pro6le4- A#! the# at the e#! /e+ve 6ee#
4eet#8 a#! $o#"err#8 re8ularly to 4a2e sure /e all a8ree o# the sa4e e9h6ts that have 6ee#
a!4tte!- So I th#2 there+s #ot 4u$h o" a# ssue1 6ut all the 'e"e#!a#ts+ e9h6ts have 6ee# !e#t"e!
/th part$ularty1 ea$h o#e #!v!ually- )here+s #o 2#! o" !o$u4e#t !u4p o# 'e"e#!a#ts+ e9h6t lst-
Judge: Are there 1;1000 o" the45
Ms. Stebbins: I th#2 # total1 your ho#or1 they+re a6out the sa4e le#8th- Pla#t""s have so4e e9h6ts
that are 101000 pa8es- So I th#2 overall1 I /oul! have to !o a $o4parso#1 6ut I th#2 the t/o e9h6t
lsts are very s4lar # le#8th- )hers1 " /e pr#te! t out1 /oul! pro6a6ly 6e a6out 1<10001 a#! so
/oul! ours-
Mr. Putnam: A#! /hat happe#e! #tally1 /e ha! a 4u$h lo#8er o#e-
Ms. Stebbins: ,e $ut t !o/#-
Mr. Putnam: A#! you $a4e to us a#! sa!1 >Loo2- :ou+ve 8ot to 6r#8 t !o/#-> I th#2 t /as arou#!
30 to arou#! 10-
Ms. Stebbins: ,e $ut t !o/# su6sta#tally 6y hal" "or sure- I $a#+t re4e46er the e9a$t a4ou#t-
Mr. Putnam: :ou as2e! us to 6r#8 t !o/# 6y a thr!1 a#! /e 6rou8ht t !o/# 6y a hal"-
Judge: Eve# thou8h t+s #ot the approprate /ay to !e#t"y the !o$u4e#ts-

Ms. Stebbins: ,e !! !e#t"y the !o$u4e#ts-


Judge: ,ell1 you 0ust put a 6ates sta4p #u46er o# t- .ut ho/ !o I 2#o/ /hat the !o$u4e#t s5 All I
see s a .ates sta4p #u46er- I !o#+t 2#o/ /hat the !o$u4e#t s-
Ms. Stebbins: )he .ates #u46er s o# every !o$u4e#t that /e #tro!u$e # $ourt- It $a# 6e $o4pare!
to that- I" you+! l2e us to !o so4eth#8 else1 /e+ll !o /hat you re3uest- Pla#t""s+ e9h6t lst o#ly
!e#t"es o#ly pro!u$to#s /th 101000 pa8es # t1 6ut there+s #o !ea &&
Judge: I+4 0ust "la88#8 t- I 2#o/ /e+ve ha! ths lttle !s$usso# #o/- I+4 0ust say#8 t sou#!s l2e t
4ay $o4e up a8a#1 a#! I !o#+t /a#t &&
Ms. Stebbins: I th#2 6y a#! lar8e1 /e+ve 6ee# a6le to /or2 th#8s out- It+s o#ly /he# there+s
so4eth#8 that+s #e/ a#! has #ot 6ee# !e#t"e! o# the lst- I" they $oul! 0ust let us 2#o/1 >?ey1 ths
o#e+s #ot o# the lst1 6ut /e+re /a#t#8 to a!! t1 a#! t+s pro!u$e! # !s$overy-> u#less there+s so4e
u#usual $r$u4sta#$es1 /e+ve 6ee# lett#8 4ost o" those 8o throu8h /thout a# o60e$to# u#less there+s
a reaso# "or a# o60e$to#-
Mr. Putnam: I# ter4s o" later !o/# the l#e1 /h$h I th#2 /as the lar8er $o#$er# /th the $ler21 /hat
/e !s$usse! a#! u#!erstoo! /as o2ay1 s that /e+re 4eet#8 a#! $o#"err#8 $o#t#ually "or ea$h
!o$u4e#t "or the appeal-
Judge: =or /hat+s &&
Ms. Stebbins: =or /hat+s a$tually a!4tte! #to $ourt1 ea$h e9h6t that has 6ee# a!4tte! #to
ev!e#$e /ll have a $lea#er a#! $lear $hart that 6oth s!es a8ree /ll 6e put # ev!e#$e-
Mr. Putnam: So there+s #o pro6le4 later-
Ms. Stebbins: So there+s #o !s$repa#$es-
Judge: =or ea$h /t#ess you /ere !e#t"y#8 the !o$u4e#ts you /ere 8o#8 to use5
Ms. Stebbins: '""ere#t ssues1 your ho#or- A"ter $ourt every !ay or every /ee21 /e+re also $o#"err#8
o# /hat+s $o4e #1 /hat+s 6ee# 4ar2e! "or !e#t"$ato#1 /hat+s 6ee# put #to ev!e#$e1 try#8 to 2eep
$urre#t o# that-
Mr. Putnam: )o 4a2e sure that the re$or!+s o2ay-
Judge: O2ay- '""ere#t ssue-
Ms. Stebbins: '""ere#t ssue-
Judge: O2ay- L2e I sa!1 I !o#+t /a#t to str th#8s up- I 0ust !o#+t /a#t to 2eep revst#8 the ssue "or
!""ere#t reaso#s- )hat+s all-
Ms. Stebbins: O2ay-
Judge: O2ay-

Mr. Boyle: :our ho#or1 0ust super 3u$2 "or the re$or!1 so /e solve! ths pro6le41 a#! /e have a
!""ere#$e o" op#o#1 6as$ally1 /th three !o$u4e#ts that /e ha! && that /e 6eleve! /ere o# the
e9h6t lst alrea!y- )hey as2e! us to put !""ere#t e9h6t #u46ers o# the4- )hat+s "#e- ,e+re #ot
$o#$e!#8 that those !o$u4e#ts /ere#+t alrea!y o# our e9h6t lst1 6ut /e+re $o4ply#8 /th ther
re3uest1 a#! /e+re putt#8 three #e/ e9h6t #u46ers o# the4- A#! I th#2 that solves the pro6le4 /th
ths /t#ess-
Judge: O2ay- O2ay- Is there a#yth#8 else /e #ee! to tal2 a6out1 or $all the /t#ess5 I 4ea# the 0urors-
Mr. Putnam: Jurors-
Judge: :eah- O2ay-
The !ury enters the courtroom"
Judge: Kather#e Ja$2so# versus AEG Lve- Goo! a"ter#oo#1 every6o!y-
The !ury: Goo! a"ter#oo#-
Judge: Cou#sel1 /oul! you 4a2e your appeara#$es "or the 0ury5
Mr. Panish: :es- Goo! a"ter#oo#- .ra# Pa#sh "or the Pla#t""s-
Mr. Boyle: Goo! a"ter#oo#- Kev# .oyle "or the Pla#t""s-
Ms. Stebbins: Goo! a"ter#oo#- Jess$a Ste66#s .#a "or the 'e"e#!a#ts-
Mr. Putnam: 7arv# Put#a4 "or the 'e"e#!a#ts-
Judge: O2ay- Let+s $o#t#ue /th 7r- Orte8a /ho s stll u#!er oath- :ou u#!ersta#! you+re stll u#!er
oath5
The #itness: :es1 your ho#or-
Continued direct e$amination by Brian Panish:
@- Goo! a"ter#oo#1 7r- Orte8a-
A- Goo! a"ter#oo#-
@- '! you have a $ha#$e to reve/ a#yth#8 a"ter $ourt yester!ay5
A- No-
@- So you+re st$2#8 /th /hat you+ve alrea!y && #oth#8 #e/5

A- No1 sr-
@- =ar e#ou8h- '! you 4eet /th your la/yers5
A- No- 'rove 4e ho4e-
@- O2ay- All r8ht- =ar e#ou8h- No/1 sr1 6y the /ay1 # your $o#tra$t that you ha! /th AEG1 are you
"a4lar /th your $o#tra$t5
A- I !o#+t 6eleve I /oul! 6e a6le to say I a4-
@- ,ell1 # other /or!s1 a#y 3uesto#s1 t /oul! 6e 8oo! to sho/ you a $opy o" t5
A- :es1 sr-
@ o2ay- A#! s AEG pay#8 "or your attor#eys # ths $ase5
A- :es-
@- So1 # other /or!s1 !! you 8et to $hoose the attor#ey1 or !! they5
A- I $hose 4y attor#ey-
@- A#! they+re pay#85
A- :es-
@- No/1 sr1 yester!ay /e tal2e! a6out &&
A- Lttle 6t a6out the o#8o#8s at the press $o#"ere#$e- Ae4e46er so4e o" those 3uesto#s1 sr5
A- :es-
@- A#! there /as a !s$usso# a6out /hether or #ot1 " you 2#e/ a6out 7$hael+s $o#!to# o# the !ay
o" the press $o#"ere#$e1 that /oul! have 4pa$te! your !e$so#- 'o you re$all that5
A- :es-
@- A#! I re"reshe! your re$olle$to# /th your test4o#y u#!er oath1 a#! you sa! t /oul! have- :ou
re$all that test4o#y5
A- :es-
@- A#! /oul! that have 4a!e you eve# 4ore /a#t#8 to !o the /or2 /th the )hs Is It tour5
A- I+4 so sorry- I !o#+t u#!ersta#! the 3uesto#-
@- )hat+s "#e- :ou sa! t /oul! have 4pa$te! your !e$so#- :ou re4e46er that5

A- :es- It $oul! have 4pa$te! 4y !e$so#-


@- O2ay- ,ell1 you sa! t /oul! have 4pa$te! your !e$so#1 !!#+t you5
A- I 6eleve I !!1 yes-
@- O2ay- A#! /he# you say t /oul! have 4pa$te! your !e$so#1 /oul! that have 4ea#t1 " you
2#e/ a6out 7$hael+s $o#!to# the !ay o" the press $o#"ere#$e1 that you /oul! have 6ee# 4ore
/a#t#8 to !o the )hs Is It tour5
A- No-
@- O2ay- 'oes t 4ea# you /oul! 6e less /a#t#8 to !o t5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! you /oul! have 6ee# less /a#t#8 to !o t 6e$ause o" 7$hael+s $o#!to#5
A- :es-
@- .e$ause you $are! a6out 7$hael+s $o#!to#5
A- :es-
@- A#! you !!#+t /a#t to 8et #volve! # a#yth#8 that $oul! # a#y /ay a""e$t 7$hael+s phys$al or
e4oto#al $o#!to#B s that r8ht5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- Lea!#8-
Judge: Overrule!- :ou 4ay a#s/er-
The #itness: A8a#1 I !o#+t && I have to hear the 3uesto# to a#s/er t $orre$tly-
Mr. Panish: )ha#2s- I as2 t 6e rerea!1 your ho#or-
Judge: O2ay- :ou 4ay rerea! t-
%e&uested &uestion read back"
The #itness: :es-
@- .e$ause you $are! a6out h4 as a perso#5
A- :es-
@- A#! a#yth#8 that # a#y /ay $oul! lea! to har4 to h41 you !!#+t /a#t to 6e #volve! #5
A- )hat+s $orre$t-

@- No/1 /e /ere o# a# e9h6t- )here /as a# ssue o# the #u46er- So I have that e9h6t #o/ # "ro#t
o" 4e1 a#! I+ve put that up # "ro#t o" you1 sr-
Mr. Panish: A#! I+ve /rtte# "or the re$or! t+s e9h6t C3;-
@- 'o you have that1 sr5
A- :es-
@- A#! s that a# e4al && /ell1 a$tually1 there+s t/o e4als- O#e "ro4 7r- Go#8a/are to yoursel"1 a#!
o#e "ro4 you to 7r- Go#8a/are-
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! ths s !ate! 7ar$h 1Dth1 2009- ,ere you o# the pro0e$t at ths t4e5
A- :es-
@- A#! you /ere "ully start#8 to !o the /or25
A- :es-
Mr. Panish: A#! /e+ll sho/ that e9h6t1 please-
@- A#!1 7r- Orte8a1 $oul! you please !es$r6e "or us1 /thout 8o#8 #to every !etal1 /hat+s your
u#!ersta#!#8 that ths e4al /as to $over5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- Va8ue as to >ths-> !o you 4ea# hs or the other5
Judge: >)hs> as the e4al5
Mr. Panish: )he e4al se#t to h4 6y 7r- Go#8a/are-
Judge: O2ay- Overrule!-
@- .e$ause the e4al "rst /as se#t to you1 a#! the# !! you respo#!5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- No/1 I th#2 &&
A- :es-
@- O2ay- )ha#2 you-
Mr. Panish: 'o you have the r8ht #u46er here5
@- ,ell1 0ust tell us 6e"ore /e sho/ t1 thou8h1 you+ve ha! a $ha#$e to reve/ tB s that r8ht5

A- :es- )he Paul Go#8a/are1 l8htlyB 4#e1 yes-


@- O2ay- Just as a# overve/1 the su60e$t 4atter o" the e4al s /hat5
A- )hat 7$hael a#! I /ere 8o#8 to 4eet a#! that /e /ere 8o#8 to tal2 $reatvely a#! 8et 6a$2 to
7r- Go#8a/are /th so4e o" the $ho$es that /e /a#te! to && that /e ha! 4a!e to #$orporate the4
#to the sho/-
@- A#! /as 7r- Go#8a/are as2#8 you a6out $erta# te4s to prepare "or the sho/5
A- :es-
@- A#!1 "or e9a4ple1 /as there 8o#8 to 6e a 4eet#8 /th you a#! 7$hael a#! others1 or 0ust you a#!
7$hael5
A- I th#2 ths /as && he /as arra#8#8 a o#e&o#&o#e "or 7$hael a#! I1 a$$or!#8 to ths e4al1 yes-
@- A#! !! you "#! t1 as you tol! us yester!ay a lttle 6t a6out your 0oust#8 a#! su$h && !! you "#!
t 6e#e"$al /he# you $oul! 4eet /th 7$hael o#e o# o#e versus hav#8 a lot o" other people there5
A- At t4es1 yes-
@- O2ay- ,hy /as that5
A- ,ell1 0ust1 # or!er to 8et #to ea$h other+s hea! a#! have a && "or 4e to 6e o# the pa8e /th 7$hael
# ter4s o" /hat hs 8oals /ere1 /hat hs 44e!ate thou8hts /ere1 44e!ate pla#s a#! vso# "or the
sho/-
@- A#! #o !stra$to#s5
A- Corre$t-
@- A#! # ths e4al && /h$h so4et4e /e 48ht "#! t && 7r- && there /e 8o- 7r- Go#8a/are lsts out
varous te4s that he /oul! l2e you all to !s$ussB s that r8ht5
A- ?e has 3uesto#s "or 4e- I+4 #ot $erta# that he+s as2#8 4e to !s$uss the4- I have#+t "ou#! that #
the e4al1 6ut I $oul! &&
@- ,ell1 " you+! loo2 &&
A- :es- @uesto#s-
@- I" you loo2 &&
A- Eh&huh-
@- && at the last para8raph-
A- It says1 >Next question is band/singer/dancer rehearsal"5 Is that the o#e5

@- No1 I+4 sorry- :ou have to tur# to the last pa8e-


A- Oh1 o2ay-
@- )he last para8raph o" the e4al &&
A- :es-
@- && he tells you1 6as$ally1 $a# you a#s/er these 3uesto#s5
A- ?e says >If we have these answers, we would be ready to rock.>
@- So /as t your u#!ersta#!#8 that you a#! 7$hael /ere 8o#8 to !s$uss these ssues1 a#! you
/ere 8o#8 to try to 8et 6a$2 to 7r- Go#8a/are5
A- )hese /oul! 6e part o" the ssues /e /oul! !s$uss1 a#! the#1 yes1 8et 6a$2 to 7r- Go#8a/are-
@- A8ht- :ou+re #ot l4t#8 the ssues to ths1 ths s 0ust /hat+s e#tale! # ths e4al5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! o#e o" the ssues # the thr! para8raph1 t tal2s a6out pro!u$to# rehearsals # Lo#!o#-
'o you see that5 )he thr! &&
A- :es-
@- && para8raph o# the "rst pa8e5 A#! t saysF >Our cost-efficient idea is to have roduction
rehearsals in !ondon. "hat way we can use #ainly a uk based crew> && a#! t says1 >$excet for key
eole which we would take with us to !ondon% saving us #assive su#s of #oney on travel,
transortation, lodging and er die#s. & '( crew have none of those costs.> 'o you 2#o/ /hat
that+s re"err#8 to5
A- :es-
@- Ca# you tell us1 please5
A- As 6est I $a#-
@- O2ay-
A- O2ay- )hat the pla# /as to spe#! the last $ouple o" /ee2s # Lo#!o# rehears#8 at the 02 rather
tha# the last $ouple o" /ee2s rehears#8 # Los A#8eles-
@- Is that $o44o#5
A- A6solutely-
@- O2ay- A#! /hy /oul! t 6e1 " you 2#o/1 a 4assve sav#8s5

A- I th#2 hotel $osts1 travel $osts1 a#! per !e4s pro6a6ly /oul! 6e a 68 part o" that e3uato#1 sr-
@- I# other /or!s1 " the people happe# to lve # Lo#!o#1 you /oul!#+t have the pro6le4 /here you+!
have to re#t hotel roo4s5
A- )hat+s $orre$t-
@- A#! you /oul!#+t have to pay "or the4 to travel5
A- )hat+s $orre$t-
@- A#! they+! have !""ere#t u#o# rules o# ho/ 4u$h people 8et per !e4 a#! ho/ 4u$h people 8et
pa!5
A- A per !e4 s a# allo/a#$e that you+re 8ve# /he# you+re travel#8 a#! /or2#8 out o" your o/#
ho4e 6ase- A#! " they /ere Lo#!o# lo$als1 the# they /oul!#+t 6e 8ve# a per !e4-
@- A#! you !!#+t 8et #volve! # the "#a#$#8 o" ths pro0e$t1 !! you5
A- O#ly /th respe$t to 6r#8#8 !eas to 7r- Go#8a/are that #ee!e! to 6e 6u!8ete! a#! approve!-
@- ?o/ /oul! that /or25 :ou+! say1 >Loo2- ,e+! l2e to !o ths-> /oul! he as2 you /hat the $ost
/oul! 6e "or that5
A- No- ,ell && so4et4es he 48ht say1 >,hat !o you th#2 the $ost "or that /oul! 6e5 'o you have a
8e#eral !ea5> .ut I !!#+t usually !o that resear$h1 you 2#o/- I 4ay have1 6e$ause I /as 6r#8#8
so4eth#8 to h4 that I /as 4ore "a4lar /th1 that I 48ht have a# !ea o" /hat the $osts /oul! 6e-
.ut # 4ost $ases I /oul! th#2 I /oul!#+t have 2#o/# /hat the $osts /oul! 6e-
@- ,oul! t 6e the $ase /here you /oul! as2 so4eo#e else /hat that $ost /as5
A- :es-
@- A#! you /oul! relate that to 7r- Go#8a/are1 a#! he /oul! have to approve that 6e"ore you $oul!
!o t5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- So && a#! the# as "ar as /ho /as pay#81 ho/ 4u$h /as 6e#8 pa!1 you /ere#+t #volve! #
that5
A- O#e 4ore t4e5
@- ,ho /as pay#81 ho/ 4u$h /as 6e#8 pa!1 /ere you #volve! # that5
A- O#ly # o#e $ase /th )ravs Pay#e-
@- O2ay- A#! I+ll 8et to that-

A- O2ay-
@- All r8ht-
A- O#ly o#e $ase that I $a# th#2 o"1 sr-
@- .ut as "ar as ho/ 4u$h t $ost "or Lo#!o# a#! the sav#8s1 /as that so4eth#8 that you /ere
#volve! # at all5
A- I /as #ot-
@- O2ay- A#! !! you have a# u#!ersta#!#8 /hether or #ot && str2e that 3uesto#- .ase! o# the
4eet#8 /th 7r- Go#8a/are a#! the AEG "ol2s1 /as t your u#!ersta#!#8 that AEG /a#te! to 2eep
the $osts /th# reaso# to !o ths5
A- :es-
@- 'o you 2#o/ /hy5
A- I th#2 that+s 0ust a 8e#eral sort o" posto# o" respo#s6le pro4oters a#! pro!u$ers-
@- A 6us#ess 0u!84e#t5
A- A 6us#ess && yes-
@- A#! !! you have a# u#!ersta#!#8 /ho /as putt#8 the 4o#ey out "or all ths5
A- ,as t 4y u#!ersta#!#8 /ho /as putt#8 all the 4o#ey out "or ths5
@- :eah-
A- I ha! && I assu4e! /ho /as putt#8 all the 4o#ey out "or ths-
@- '! you 2#o/ /hether t /as AEG or so4eo#e else5
A- I 0ust "8ure! that t /as AEG1 a#! 7$hael1 to so4e !e8ree-
@- .ut !o you 2#o/ /ho /as a$tually !o#8 t5
A- I assu4e! that t /as AEG1 a#! 4ay6e 7$hael-
@- ,ell1 /he# he+s re"err#8 to >saving us #assive su#s> &&
A- :es-
@- && /as ths e4al se#t to a#yo#e o# 6ehal" o" 7$hael Ja$2so#1 to your 2#o/le!8e5
A- ,as ths e4al se#t to a#yo#e other tha# 4ysel"5

@- :es-
A- I !o#+t 2#o/ " t /as $ope!-
@- '! you !s$uss ths ssue /th 7$hael Ja$2so#5
A- No- I !!#+t !s$uss "#a#$#8 /th 7$hael Ja$2so#-
@- O2ay- A#! the# 7r- Go#8a/are 8oes o# to tal2 a6out these other ssues- A#! you /rte 6a$2 to h41
tell#8 h4 that you ha! a 8oo! 4eet#8B s that r8ht5
A- :es-
@- A#! you tal2 a6out ho/ 4porta#t t s to have o#e&o#&o#e t4e /th 7J5
A- :es-
@- A#! that you /ere alrea!y && you a#! 7J >were already so in sync.> ,hat !o you 4ea# 6y that5
A- I th#2 /e $a4e /th our #tal !eas1 a#!1 you 2#o/1 /ere $o##e$te!-
@- 7esh#8 to8ether5
A- :es1 sr-
@- A#! as you && you ha!#+t /or2e! /th 7$hael1 I th#21 s#$e && /as t ?.O5
A- I 6eleve so-
@- 7! +90s5
A- :eah- A- Lo#8 t4e-
@- So over 1< years or 4ore tha# that5
A- ,as t that lo#85 I thou8ht t /as l2e && yeah1 4ay6e-
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- 7sstates pror test4o#y-
@- ,ell1 /he# /as the last t4e you /or2e! /th h45 )hat+s all I /a#t-
A- I+4 #ot sure a6out the !ates- It $oul! have 6ee# ?.O1 or t $oul! have 6ee# a o#e&o"" $o#$ert- I
!o#+t re4e46er- .ut I th#2 t 48ht have 6ee# ?.O-
@- 7ore tha# 10 years5
A- :es1 sr-

@- .ut eve# thou8h you ha!#+t /or2e! to8ether "or 10 years1 /he# you re$o#ve#e!1 !! t see4 l2e #o
t4e ha! passe!5
A- I# so4e /ays-
@- As "ar as $reatvty a#! your a6lty to /or2 to8ether1 ho/ !! t see45
A- :es-
@- All r8ht- So the# I /a#t to sho/ you /hat+s alrea!y && you tol! us you yoursel" use! to 6e a !a#$er1
r8ht1 6a$2 # the !ay5
A- I stll !a#$e-
@- O2ay- 'o you !e4o#strate so4et4es th#8s that you+! l2e && ho/ you+! l2e the !a#$ers to !o t5
A- Not so 4u$h- I+ll tal2 4ore $o#$eptually- Every o#$e # a /hle I+ll thro/ a sp#1 or 7$hael a#! I
/ll 6e tal2#81 a#! I+ll say >I love the /ay you rea$he! your ha#! out at that 4o4e#t-> So1 yes1 I a4
phys$al # the /ay that I /or2-
@- O2ay- It+s 2#! o" l2e 6e#8 a $oa$hB r8ht5 I 4ea#1 you+re try#8 to $oa$h the !a#$ers ho/ to !o the
4oves5 ?o/ you+! l2e to see the45
A- No- Less /th the !a#$ers- )hat /as 4ore 7$hael a#! )ravs-
@- O2ay-
A- I 48ht have a thou8ht a6out1 you 2#o/1 the /ay that they $o4e o#to the sta8e1 or the /ay they
leave the sta8e- .ut the a$tual !a#$#8 steps a#! the per"or4a#$es1 7$hael a#! )ravs pretty 4u$h
ha#!le! that-
@- O2ay- :ou sa! you 48ht thro/ a sp#- ,hat s that5 :ou !o#+t have to sho/ us-
A- I $a#-
@- I" you /a#t1 you $a#1 6ut &&
A- ,ell1 you 2#o/ &&
@- I+4 #ot sho/#8 t-
A- .as$ally1 /hat I 4ea# 6y >thro/ a sp#> s1 I tur# 4y 6o!y1 /hrl1 you 2#o/1 to !e4o#strate a
part$ular "eel#8 or e4oto# that I+4 8o#8 "or-
@- O2ay- So l2e /he# you !o l2e a sp# all the /ay arou#!1 /hat s that $alle!5
A- ,ell1 they+re $alle! !""ere#t th#8s1 !epe#!e#t o# ho/ you !o the4- .ut o#e /ay you $all t /oul!
6e a prouette-

@- ,hat s a 3D0 sp#5


A- )hat+s tur##8 o#e "ull $r$le-
@- O2ay- A#! /hat s 4ultple 3D0 sp#s5
A- ,ell1 you $a# !o a1 you 2#o/1 .arysh#2ov1 a#! 7$hael1 I th#21 6attle! t out "or /ho $oul! !o
4ore-
@- ,ell1 let+s ta2e a loo2 at GD1 /h$h has alrea!y 6ee# !e#t"e! a#! sho/# to the 0ury- It+s a v!eo1
srB o2ay5
' (ideo cli) is )layed"
@- 'o you re$o8#He the perso# !o#8 the !a#$#85
A- :es-
@- ,ho s that5
A- 7$hael-
@- ,hat /oul! you $all the 4ove he 0ust !!5
A- )hose are l2e pe#$l tur#s-
@- ,oul! those 6e 3D0s5
A- :es-
@- 7ultple 3D0s5
A- :es-
@- A#! /as that so4eth#8 that 7$hael /as 8oo! at5
A- Oh1 yes-
@- A#! I th#2 you $o4pare! h4 &&
A- )o .arysh#2ov-
@- && to 72hal .arysh#2ov1 /ho /as a "a4ous 6allet !a#$er5
A- :es-
@- So4e o" the 6est- )hose t/o /ere t/o o" the 6est5
A- :es-

@- No/1 sr1 you /ere #volve! # reve/#8 the )hs Is It "oota8e1 a#! I th#2 you $alle! t e!t#8B s
that r8ht5
A- :es-
@- A#! /he# you e!te! the "l41 the "l4 /as #ot #te#!#8 to sho/ ho/ 7$hael /as per"or4#8
!ur#8 the rehearsals1 /as t5
A- 7y 8oal /as to e!t to8ether the pe$es to help to tell a story o" /hat 7$hael+s 8oals "or the sho/
/ere-
@- O2ay-
A- ,hat hs 8oals "or )hs Is It /ere-
@- ,as the "l4 tsel" #te#!e! && /as the #te#to# o" the "l4 to sho/ ho/ 7$hael /as per"or4#8
!ur#8 the rehearsals5
A- )hat /as#+t 4y #te#to# as a "l44a2er- I 4ea#1 o" $ourse I /a#te! 7$hael to loo2 8reat al/ays-
@- .ut t /as#+t your #te#to# &&
A- )he #te#to# /as to tell a story-
@- A#! the e#tre "l41 s there a#y pla$e /here 7$hael s per"or4#8 4ultple 3D0s5
A- :ou 2#o/1 I th#2 so- I th#2 # && /he# he+s !o#8 &&
@- ?o/ 4a#y t4es have you /at$he! the "l45
A- Par!o# 4e5
@- ?o/ 4a#y t4es have you /at$he! t5
A- ?o/ 4a#y t4es have I /at$he! t5 Not lately- I have#+t /at$he! t "or a $ouple o" years-
@- 10 t4es5
A- Oh1 yeah-
@- 20 t4es5
A- No-
@- O2ay- 7ore tha# 105
A- :eah-

@- A#! you /ere #volve!1 o6vously1 # the e!t#85


A- :eah-
@- '! you ever see h4 !o 4ultple 3D0s &&
A- :eah- I 6eleve &&
@- && l2e I 0ust sho/e! you # the "l45
A- I 6eleve he !oes # o#e #u46er1 a#! I+4 try#8 to re4e46er the #a4e o" the so#8- I !o#+t th#2 t+s
)hrller1 a#! I !o#+t th#2 t+s .a! /here he !oes- ,here he tur#s arou#! a#! arou#! a#! arou#! a#!
!rops to hs 2#ees a#! the# lays o# the "loor-
@- Are you sure a6out that5
A- I !o#+t && I 4ea#1 I !o#+t 2#o/ that he !oes those pe#$l tur#s1 6ut he !oes tur#-
@- 7ultple t4es5
A- :es1 sr-
@- O2ay- A#! /hat /as the !ate that he !! that5
A- Oh1 I !o#+t 2#o/-
@- ,as t at the "oru45
A- I !o#+t 2#o/-
@- O2ay- A#! so /e have the "l41 a#! /e+ll 6e a6le to "#! that-
A- :eah-
@- ,here # the "l4 /oul! t 6e lo$ate!5
A- I /ll re4e46er the so#8-
@- O2ay-
A- I /ll re4e46er t-
@- ,he# you re4e46er1 you 0ust tell 4eB o2ay5
A- :eah- I !o#+t th#2 you+ll see h4 !o the tur#s e9a$tly as you sa/ h4 !o the4 # ths represe#tato#1
6ut he !oes !o so4e tur#s a#! the# !oes "all !o/# to hs 2#ees-
@- O2ay- ,he# you re4e46er1 you tell 4e1 a#! /e+ll pull out the "l4B o2ay5

A- :es-
@- O2ay- :ou !o#+t have to re4e46er r8ht #o/- I /a#t to sho/ you #o/ e9h6t 12G1 /h$h I 6eleve
s # ev!e#$e alrea!y-
Mr. Panish: Is that r8ht5 Is that # ev!e#$e5
Ms. Stebbins: Let+s #ot put t up u#tl /e 2#o/ /hether t+s # ev!e#$e or #ot- I !o #ot have t #
ev!e#$e yet- No1 t+s #ot # ev!e#$e-
@- No/1 are you o# these e4als1 sr5 %#!$at#8*
A- )here+s o#e here1 yes1 to 4e-
@- ,ell1 there+s o#e "ro4 7r- Go#8a/are to you that+s a6out three a#! a hal" pa8es lo#8B s that r8ht5
A- It appears that there+s a &&
@- I th#2 &&
A- && short o#e here %#!$at#8*- Is that the sa4e o#e you have5
@- I hope so- Let 4e loo2- I th#2 t loo2s l2e &&
A- )hs s to Ke##y "ro4 Paul1 0ust o#e para8raph-
@- A8ht- It /as "or/ar!e!1 you say- A#! the# here t says >to Paul1 .u8H1 "ro4 2o-> s that you5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- So the# t loo2s l2e you /rote three pa8es+ /orth o" the e4al-
A- Oh1 o2ay-
@- Is that r8ht5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! ths s so4eth#8 && o2ay-
Mr. Panish: So t+s o2ay1 7r- Put#a45
Mr. Putnam: :es-
Mr. Panish: )ha#2 you- All r8ht- I" /e $oul! put that up-
@- No/1 let+s 8o to the 6a$2 "rst- '! you have $o#versato#s /th 7J alu4#5
A- :es-

@- ,hat+s a# 7J alu4#5
A- A# artst /ho per"or4e! # prevous tours-
@- O2ay- A#!1 "or e9a4ple1 " /e 8o to pa8e 12G&31 you 4e#to# )ravs Pay#eB $orre$t5
A- :es-
@- :ou+re "re#!s /th )ravs5
A- :es-
@- A#! )ravs /as a $horeo8rapher "or ths5
A- :es-
@- A#! you+! /or2e! /th )ravs1 a#! he+! /or2e! /th 7$haelB r8ht5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! the# /e have 2ev# !orsey5
A- :es-
@- A#! you+! /or2e! /th 7r- 'orsey5
A- :es-
@- A#! /hat !oes 7r- 'orsey !o5
A- A s#8er-
@- A#! I hate to say ths1 6ut s t l2e a 6a$2&up s#8er5
A- :es-
@- A#! these /ere people you ha! 6ee# tal2#8 to5
A- :es-
@- I# other /or!s1 you /ere out $o44u#$at#81 a#! 7$hael ha! /a#te! so4e o" these people to
/or21 a#! you /ere tal2#8 to the4 a#! /or2#8 o# that5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- Lea!#8-
@- ,ell1 s that /hat happe#e! or #ot5
Judge: Susta#e!-

@- ,ell1 ho/ s t that you put !o/# these people+s #a4es5


A- So4e people rea$he! out to 4e1 a#! others /ere alrea!y /or2#8 /th 7$hael-
@- ?o/ a6out )ravs5
A- )hey /ere alrea!y /or2#8 /th 7$hael-
@- Kev# 'orsey5
A- ?e rea$he! out to 4e-
@- >Aea$he! out> 4ea#s he $o#ta$te! you5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- ?o/ a6out Kare# =aye5
A- She ha! rea$he! out to 4e1 a#! also 7$hael ha! rea$he! out to her-
@- O2ay- A#! the# 7$hael pr#$e- ,ho s 7$hael Pr#$e5
A- 7$hael Pr#$e1 I 6eleve1 /as a 4us$al te$h#$a#-
@- A#! /hat+s a 4us$al te$h#$a#5
A- ?e /or2e! o# a# #stru4e#t that+s $alle! Pro )ools-
@- ,hat s that5
A- I !o#+t 2#o/ ho/ to 6rea2 t !o/# te$h#$ally- It stores 4us$al #"or4ato#- )hat+s a6out as 8oo! &&
@- L2e a $o4puter1 2#!a5
A- :es-
@- A#! " /e 8o up && /hat you /ere !o#8 s1 you /ere se#!#8 ths #"or4ato# to let 7r- Go#8a/are
a#! I 6eleve 7r- ?ou8h!ahl 2#o/1 2#! o" up!ate the4 o# /hat you+ve 6ee# !o#8- Is that a "ar
state4e#t5
A- I 6eleve so- I 4ea#1 that+s /hat t appears1 yes-
@- O2ay- A#! so1 the#1 7r- ?ou8h!ahl1 !o you 2#o/ h45
A- Na4e a8a#5
@- ?ou8h!ahl- .u8H-

A- :es-
@- All r8ht- :ou+ve hear! h4 as >.u8H1> too5
A- :es-
@- ,as he && /hat /as hs role5
A- I 6eleve he /or2e! # a$$ou#t#8 or u#!er 7r- Go#8a/are #1 l2e1 the pro!u$to# o""$e-
@- ,as he the sta8e 4a#a8er5
A- I !o#+t th#2 a sta8e 4a#a8er- 7ay6e the tour 4a#a8er or the roa! 4a#a8er or the a$$ou#t#8
4a#a8er- I !o#+t 2#o/ hs ttle1 6ut a sta8e && he /as#+t the sta8e 4a#a8er-
@- ,ho /as the sta8e 4a#a8er5
A- )he sta8e 4a#a8er $a4e # late1 a#! he /as a 6roa!/ay sta8e 4a#a8er1 6rlla#t 4a#-
@- I" 7r- Go#8a/are test"e! that 7r- ?ou8h!ahl /as the sta8e 4a#a8er1 that /oul!#+t 6e your
u#!ersta#!#85
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- La$2s "ou#!ato#-
Mr. Panish: ,ell &&
Judge: Overrule!- I !o#+t 2#o/ e9a$tly " he sa! that1 6ut &&
Mr. Panish: ?e !!-
Mr. Putnam: Sa4e o60e$to#-
@- I /a#t you to assu4e that 7r- Go#8a/are tol! us that .u8H ?ou8h!ahl /as the sta8e 4a#a8er- Is
that $o#sste#t or #$o#sste#t /th your re$olle$to#5
A- I /oul!#+t have $alle! h4 a sta8e 4a#a8er-
@- ,ell1 /he# you say the tour 4a#a8er1 the tour a$$ou#ta#t1 !o you 2#o/ a# #!v!ual 6y the #a4e
o" )44 ,oolley5
A- :es-
@- ,hat /as hs role5
A- I 6eleve he /as # tour a$$ou#t#8-
@- :ou !!#+t #tera$t /th h4 very 4u$h5

A- Not very 4u$h- A "e/ t4es-


@- ?o/ 4a#y t4es !! you #tera$t /th 7r- ?ou8h!ahl5
A- :ou 4ea# .u8H5
@- :eah-
A- A #u46er o" t4es-
@- ,as he there every !ay at the rehearsals5
A- ?e /as # the o""$es at the rehearsal "a$lty-
@ !! you as2 .u8H to /rte a# e4al o# your 6ehal"5
A- Par!o# 4e5
@- '! you as2 .u8H to se#! a# e4al o# your 6ehal"5
A- Not that I re$all-
@- ?ave you see# .u8H s#$e )hs Is It5
A- No-
@- '! you see h4 /he# you /ere /or2#8 /th the roll#8 sto#es5
A- No-
@- :ou have#+t spo2e# to h4 s#$e ths5
A- No-
@- So you !o#+t really 2#o/ h4 that /ell5
A- No-
@- Is that a "ar state4e#t5 :ou !!#+t 2#o/ h4 that /ell5
A- No-
@- It+s a !ou6le #e8atve-
A- I+4 so sorry-
@- '! you 2#o/ 7r- ?ou8h!ahl /ell5
A- No1 I !! #ot-

@- O2ay- No/1 ths s #o/ o# 7ar$h 2<th /he# 7r- Go#8a/are s /rt#8 to you a6out your "#a#$al
arra#8e4e#ts- :ou re4e46er that5
A- ,h$h && /here s t1 sr5
@- It+s r8ht # the 4!!le o" the "rst pa8e-
A- :es-
@- O2ay- 'o you re4e46er ths o$$urr#8 o# 7ar$h 2<th1 or therea6outs5
A- I re4e46er ths && the pro6le4- I re4e46er the && you 2#o/1 the o#8o#8 &&
@- .a$2&a#!&"orth5
A- :eah-
@- A#! s that $o44o# # #e8otato#s5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- So /as t your u#!ersta#!#8 that 7r- Go#8a/are /as #ot a6le to pay /hat you /a#te! to !o
ths5
A- At ths po#t1 yes-
@- '! he tell you /hy he $oul!#+t !o that5
A- :es-
@- '! he tell you t /as too 4u$h 4o#ey5
A- I re4e46er t as t ha! to 6e approve! 6y 7r- Ja$2so#-
@- 7r- Ja$2so#1 he #ever !e#e! you a#y 4o#ey1 !! he5
A- ,e #ever spo2e o" 4o#ey-
@- 'o you 2#o/ /hether 7r- Ja$2so# ever !e#e! a#y "#a#$al re3uest that you /a#te!5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- La$2s "ou#!ato#-
Judge: Overrule!-
The #itness: I usually /as 8o#8 "orth o# 7$hael+s 6ehal" to re3uest "u#!s- I !!#+t 8o to 7$hael to
re3uest "u#!s-
Judge: Ca# I as21 /hat !! you 4ea#1 or /hat /as your u#!ersta#!#8 o" >"#a#$al re3ure4e#ts>5

,as that your salary1 or s t re"err#8 to all these people1 pr#$e a#! "aye a#!
&&
The #itness: No- I 6eleve ths /as relate! to 4y salary-
Judge: :our !eal1 your $o#tra$t5
The #itness: :es-
Judge: O2ay-
@- ,ell1 !! 7r- Go#8a/are /rte a#y/here # there that t ha! a#yth#8 to !o /th 7$hael Ja$2so#5
A- Not # ths e4al1 #o1 sr-
@- ,ell1 !o you have a# e4al /here he sa! that to you5
A- I thou8ht that there /as a# e4al /here he sa! that- Or 4ay6e t /as a $o#versato#-
@- ,ell1 "rst1 /as there a# e4al5
A- )here 4ay have 6ee#-
@- O2ay- ,he# /as that e4al5
A- I !o#+t 2#o/-
@- ,oul! t have 6ee# 6e"ore or a"ter ths o#e5
A- It 48ht have 6ee# arou#! the sa4e t4e-
@- ,ell1 $oul! .u8H have 6ee# the pro!u$to# 4a#a8er5
A he $oul! have1 yes-
@- No/1 you !!#+t !eal /th .u8H a6out your salary1 !! you5
A- No-
@- A#! /ho /as !eal#8 /th ths5 :our a8e#t5
A- :es-
@- 7s- 7$!o#al!B s that r8ht5
A- :es-
@- A#! !o you 2#o/ /ho 7s- 7$!o#al! /as !eal#8 /th5

A- I 6eleve she /as !eal#8 /th Paul Go#8a/are-


@- ,as 7$hael Ja$2so# #volve! # that at all5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- La$2s "ou#!ato#-
@- )o your 2#o/le!8e5
A- Not to 4y 2#o/le!8e-
Judge: O2ay- I" there+s a# o60e$to#1 you #ee! to /at u#tl I rule o# t 6e"ore you a#s/er-
The #itness: I+4 sorry- I !!#+t hear t-
Judge: )hat+s o2ay- I overrule! t1 so that+s o2ay-
The #itness: I+4 sorry- Ca#+t hear so4et4es-
Judge: )hat+s o2ay-
@- All r8ht- So he saysF >)ouldn*t slee last night trying to figure it out. +e need to #ove forward
quickly, I know, but I haven*t been able to find a way to #ake this work. ,y deeest and #ost
sincere aology.> ,as t your u#!ersta#!#8 that the $o#tra$t ter4s that you /a#te! /ere #ot 8o#8 to
6e 4et5
A- ,as t 4y u#!ersta#!#85 Poss6ly1 yes-
@- ?e !oes#+t say a#yth#8 a6out1 >,ell1 I+ve 0ust 8ot to ru# t 6y 7$hael1 a#! " he approves t1 t+s
o2ay1> !oes he5
A- No-
@- .ut you $o#t#ue! to /or2 o# the pro0e$t1 !!#+t you1 sr5
A- :es-
@- ,ere you surprse! 6y the respo#se "ro4 7r- Go#8a/are5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- Va8ue1 the ter4 >respo#se->
Mr. Panish: It+s r8ht here-
Judge: Overrule!- :ou 4ay a#s/er-
The #itness: ,as I surprse!5 No-
@- :ou /ere#+t5
A- No-

@- It 0ust /as so4eth#8 you e9pe$te!5


A- No1 t+s #ot that I e9pe$te! t- It+s 0ust that so4et4es #e8otato#s ta2e t4e-
@- ,ell1 ths !!#+t loo2 l2e && !! ths loo2 to you l2e he /a#te! to $o#t#ue #e8otato#s5
A- :es-
@- So ths s 2#! o" a #e8otato# ta$t$5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- La$2s "ou#!ato#-
Judge: Overrule!- :ou 4ay a#s/er-
The #itness: I 4ay a#s/er5
Judge: :es-
The #itness: Perhaps-
@- ,ell1 you !!#+t "eel that #e8otato#s /ere !ea!B r8ht5
A- No-
@- A#! you !!#+t "eel l2e you ha! a !ealB r8ht5
A- No-
@- Corre$t5
A- Corre$t-
@- So /oul! t 6e reaso#a6le to say that you "elt that ths /as a ta$t$ to $o#t#ue #e8otato#s5
Mr. Putnam: Sa4e o60e$to#-
Judge: Overrule!- :ou 4ay a#s/er-
The #itness: )o $o#t#ue #e8otato#s1 yes-
@- .ut you $o#t#ue! to /or25
A- :es- I# 8oo! "ath-
@- I# 8oo! "ath- No/1 /ere you $o44u#$at#8 /th 7s- 7$!o#al! !ur#8 ths t4e5
A- :es-

@- '! you !s$uss /th 7s- 7$!o#al! that && str2e that- '! 7s- 7$!o#al! !s$uss /th you that she
/as u#$o4"orta6le /th you $o#t#u#8 to /or2 a#! re#!er serv$es /th #ot hav#8 AEG a8ree to the
ter4s o" the !eal5
Mr. Putnam: :our ho#or1 s ths hs attor#ey-
Mr. Panish: No1 t+s #ot- It+s a# a8e#t1 a #o#&attor#ey-
Judge: Ae4#! 4e /ho 7s- 7$!o#al! s-
The #itness: She+s 4y represe#tato# "or !re$t#8 a#! $horeo8raphy "or lve pro0e$ts-
Judge: So she+s your a8e#t1 6as$ally5
The #itness: 7y a8e#t1 yes-
Judge: All r8ht- A#!1 I+4 sorry1 repeat the 3uesto#- :ou /a#t the $ourt reporter to rea! t5
Mr. Panish: :es- She+s #ot a# attor#ey- I# "a$t1 I have her e4als that /ere pro!u$e!-
Judge: ,ell1 he says she+s hs a8e#t- .ut 4a!a4 $ourt reporter1 $oul! you rerea! the 3uesto#5
The re&uested &uestion #as read back"
Judge: :ou 4ay a#s/er- :our o60e$to# s overrule!-
The #itness: :es-
@- A#! t /as 7s- 7$!o#al!+s 0o61 /as t1 to represe#t your #terests5
A- :es-
@- A#! /as 7s- 7$!o#al! also represe#t#8 )ravs Pay#e5
A- :es-
@- 'o you 2#o/ " )ravs /as /or2#8 at ths po#t # t4e1 7ar$h 2<th5
A- I 6eleve so1 yes-
@- I /a#t to sho/ you e9h6t C331 sr- %#!$at#8*
Mr. Panish: )hey+re tell#8 4e #o/ t 48ht 6e D10-
Mr. Putnam: No/1 s ths 4ultple && ths loo2s l2e 4ultple e4als 0ust 8roupe! to8ether1 so4e
/h$h s are to8ether1 so4e are #ot-
Judge: It says D10 at the 6otto41 #ot C33-

Mr. Panish: ,ell1 they &&


Judge: Is ths o#e that /as re#u46ere!5
Mr. Boyle: :es- )hs s a re#u46er-
Mr. Panish: )hey+re 0ust tell#8 4e &&
Judge: O2ay-
@- O2ay- Let 4e 8ve that to you- %#!$at#8* #o/1 ths /as Aprl Cth- :ou see that1 sr5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- :ou /ere stll /or2#8B s that r8ht5
A- :es-
@- ,as )ravs /or2#85
A- :es-
@- '! ether o#e o" you1 to your 2#o/le!8e1 have a# a8ree4e#t /th AEG5
A- It !oes#+t appear so1 a$$or!#8 to these !ates here-
@- A#! /oul! you1 as you sa!1 6e $o#t#u#8 to per"or4 # 8oo! "ath5
A- :es-
@- ,hat !oes that 4ea#1 to >per"or4 # 8oo! "ath> to you5
A- So4eth#8 I+ve 6ee# !o#8 4y /hole l"e-
@- ,hether you have a $o#tra$t or #ot5
A- :es-
@- I# other /or!s && /as t your u#!ersta#!#8 that they /ere 8o#8 to 8et you a $o#tra$t1 a#! that+s
/hy you /ere $o#t#u#8 to /or25
A- It /as 4y hope a#! 4y && you 2#o/1 that # the e#!1 /e $oul! $o4e to ter4s that /oul! 6e
a8reea6le to everyo#e1 a#! t /oul! all /or2 out- A#! I 0ust 2ept the "ath that that+s && that /oul!
happe#-
@- A#! !! t5
A- :es-

@- A#! # "a$t1 !! you $o#t#ue to passo#ately represe#t a#! re#!er serv$es "or the sho/5
A- '! I $o#t#ue to re#!er5
@- Passo#ately re#!er serv$es "or the sho/5
A- :es-
@- '! you $o#!u$t au!to#s5
A- :es-
@- ,hat type o" au!to#s !! you $o#!u$t5
A- Oh1 4a#y-
@- 'a#$ers1 /e 2#o/B r8ht5
A- I+ll 6e happy to && /e !! !a#$er au!to#sB /e !! s#8er au!to#sB /e !! a 6a#! au!to#sB a#! /e
#terve/e! varous people "or varous !es8# roles-
@- All that /or2 that you !! at the au!to#s1 !! you have a $o#tra$t at that t4e5
A- I !o#+t 2#o/ e9a$tly /he# the $o#tra$t /as s8#e!1 so I !o#+t 2#o/- It 48ht have happe#e! # the
4!st o" t- I !o#+t 2#o/-
@- ,ell1 /he# /ere the !a#$er au!to#s5
A- A8a#1 I !o#+t 2#o/- :ou $a# put t # "ro#t o" 4e1 6ut I 0ust !o#+t re4e46er o""ha#!1 sr-
@- O2ay- I /ll- Let+s loo2 at D10-
Mr. Boyle: C33-
Mr. Panish: No- I alrea!y 8ot that-
The #itness: I /oul! th#2 # Aprl so4et4e-
@- :eah- 7! Aprl1 !oes that sou#! a6out r8ht5
A- :eah- .e$ause /e starte! rehearsals1 I 6eleve1 # Aprl1 so /e /oul! have alrea!y 6ee# #to our
au!to##8-
@- ,ell1 s t true && $oul! you loo2 at pa8e 1;1 sr5 C33&1;- Is ths a# e4al to you "ro4 && I+4 sorry &&
"ro4 you to 7r- Go#8a/are5
A- :es-
Mr. Panish: O2ay- Let+s put that up-

@- Is ths re"err#8 && /hat s ths re"err#8 to1 sr5


A- 7ay I rea! t very 3u$2ly5
@- Sure- )a2e your t4e-
A- )ha#2 you- %reve/#8 !o$u4e#t* ths e4al s pr4arly a6out the au!to#s-
@- 'a#$ers5
A- 'a#$ers1 yes-
@- A#! !oes ths re"resh your re$olle$to# a6out /he# ths /as o$$urr#85
A- :es- ,e /ere alrea!y #to the au!to#s 6y Aprl 1<th-
@- ,oul! that 6e 4! Aprl5
A- :es1 sr-
@- :ou !!#+t have a $o#tra$t the#1 !! you5
A- I !o#+t 2#o/ /he# I s8#e! 4y $o#tra$t- :ou have that1 you $a# 6etter a#s/er that tha# I-
@- O2ay- ,ell1 let+s 0u4p r8ht to that- A#! that+s 121C29- I th#2 t+s alrea!y # ev!e#$e- O2ay- 7r-
Orte8a1 I+4 8o#8 to 8ve you the $o#tra$t1 a $opy o" that- %#!$at#8* ths s "or the 0u!8e- %#!$at#8*
a#! ths s /hat /as sho/# to you at your !eposto#- :ou re4e46er that5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! ta2e a se$o#! a#! $o#"r4 that that s your $o#tra$t-
A- :es1 t s 4y $o#tra$t-
@- 'oes that re"resh your re$olle$to# o" /he# you s8#e! your $o#tra$t5
A- I+4 loo2#8 "or a !ate-
@- ,ell1 " you loo2 to the le"t o" your s8#ature1 t says >-xecuted at> &&
A- Aprl 2<th-
@- 'oes that re"resh your re$olle$to#5
A- :es-
@- So /he# you /ere !o#8 the au!to#s "or the !a#$ers1 !! you have a $o#tra$t5

A- No-
@- Or a s8#e!1 /rtte# $o#tra$t5
A- No-
@- No/1 you a#! 7$hael1 you tal2e! a6out ho/ 4porta#t the ope##8 /asB $orre$t5
A- :es-
@- A#! !o you re4e46er /hat the ope##8 /as 8o#8 to 6e o" the )hs Is It sho/5
A- :es-
@- ,hat /as that5
A- It /as 8o#8 to 6e && #$lu!e the v!eo1 a#! t /as 8o#8 to
I#$lu!e 7$hael arrv#8 # a && l2e a ro6ot- I#s!e o" a 8a#t ro6ot-
@- O2ay- Let 4e sho/ you 11003- ,as t $alle!1 l2e1 >"uture 4a#>5 :ou re4e46er that5
A- 7ay6e1 yeah-
@- ,ell1 let+s ta2e a loo2-
' (ideo cli) is )layed"
@- Is ths you tal2#85
A- :es-
' (ideo cli) is )layed"
@- All r8ht- ,as that the e#vso#e! ope##8 that you a#! 7$hael /ere /or2#8 o#5
A- :es-
@- No/1 sr1 the $o#tra$t that I+ve sho/#1 e9h6t 121C291 that+s /hat+s $alle! >(O &gree#ent,
)ertificate of -#loy#ent !oan-Out-> are you "a4lar /th these types o" a8ree4e#ts5
A- I+4 a loa#&out $o4pa#y-
@- ,he# you say >I a4> &&
A- I 4ea#1 I+4 a# e4ployee o" the KO Co4pa#y1 a#! the KO Co4pa#y loa#s 4e out-
@- ,ho o/#s the KO Co4pa#y5
A- I !o-

@- Is there a#y other o/#ers5


A- No-
@- Is there a#y other e4ployees5
A- :es-
@- ?o/ 4a#y5
A- )/o-
@- )/o- So1 6as$ally1 you are the $o4pa#y5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- So the arra#8e4e#t1 the#1 s "or you1 as the o/#er o" the $o4pa#y1 to prov!e serv$es "or
so4eo#eB s that r8ht5
A- Eh41 I !o#+t 2#o/ all the !etals o" ho/ 4y KO Co4pa#y s set up- 7y 6us#ess 4a#a8er /oul!
pro6a6ly 6e 6etter to a#s/er that-
@- ,ell1 !oes the KO Co4pa#y tsel" !o serv$es5
A- Eh41 I !o#+t 2#o/-
@- :ou &&
A- :es-
@- && per"or4 serv$es &&
A- :es-
@- && as the KO Co4pa#yB s that r8ht5
A- As Ke##y Orte8a-
@- ,ell1 /ho s the KO Co4pa#y5
A- )he KO Co4pa#y s the #a4e o" the $o4pa#y that I a4 a !re$tor #-
@- O2ay- 'oes the KO Co4pa#y tsel" !re$t a#yth#85
A- No-
@- ,ho !oes the !re$t#85

A- I !o-
@- ,ho !oes the $horeo8raph#85 'oes the KO Co4pa#y !o that5
A- No-
@- ,ho !oes that5
A- I !o-
@- So you are the $o4pa#y5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- La$2s "ou#!ato#-
Judge: Overrule!-
The #itness: :eah1 I suppose- I 4ea#1 yeah1 I suppose-
@- Is there so4e6o!y else that+s the KO Co4pa#y other tha# yoursel"1 that you+re a/are o"5
A- No-
@- So s t 0ust $o44o# that ths s /hat the a8ree4e#t /oul! say1 >loa#&o"" $o4pa#y>5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- Va8ue as to >$o44o#->
Judge: Susta#e!-
@- ,ell1 your e9pere#$e # the #!ustry5 'o you have &&
A- 7y u#!ersta#!#8 &&
@- ,ell1 you $a#+t a#s/er 6e$ause she susta#e! the o60e$to#- ?er ho#or susta#e! the o60e$to#- Let
4e start a8a#- :ou+ve1 I assu4e1 ha! 4a#y a8ree4e#ts # the e#terta#4e#t #!ustry5
A- :es-
@- A#! !o you have a 8e#eral u#!ersta#!#8 o" /hat they have 6ee#5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- ?ave they 6ee# l2e ths a8ree4e#t5
A- :es-
@- ,he# t says1 >$ert"$ate o" e4ploy4e#t loa#&out> &&
A- :es-

@- && s that $o44o#5


A- :es-
@- Is that ho/ lo#8 && ho/ lo#8 have you 6ee# !o#8 that5
A- A lo#8 t4e-
@- 30 years5
A- No- Not /th the KO Co4pa#y-
@- '! you have a#other $o4pa#y 6e"ore5
A- No-
@- ?o/ lo#8 have you ha! the KO Co4pa#y5
A- 7ay6e 20-
@- 20 years you+ve 6ee# !o#8 that5 O2ay- )hat+s "#e- Is that r8ht5
A- :eah-
@- O2ay- No/1 # ths $o#tra$t1 !oes t1 # the a$tual $ert"$ate o" e4ploy4e#t a8ree4e#t1 set "orth the
ter4s o" the $o#tra$t1 to your u#!ersta#!#85
A- :es-
@- It !oes5 )here+s #oth#8 else that sets "orth the ter4s o" the $o#tra$t5
A- Other tha# ths a8ree4e#t5
@- :eah- Are there atta$h4e#ts to the a8ree4e#t that set out the a8ree4e#t5
A- Are there atta$h4e#ts to ths5
@- :eah-
A- I !o#+t re$all " there /ere atta$h4e#ts-
@- O2ay-
A- I+ve ha! $o#tra$ts that have atta$h4e#ts-
@- ,ell1 let+s see " /e $a# re"resh your re$olle$to#- Let+s loo2 at pa8e 121C29&31 a#! let+s loo2 at
/here t says >Induce#ent>B o2ay5 :ou "a4lar /th that5
A- :es-

@- Is that your s8#ature5


A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! /here t saysF >"he undersigned, (enny Ortega, acknowledged that he has read and
understands the foregoing and the agree#ent #e#oriali.ed under exhibit a hereto and agrees to be
bound by the ter#s and conditions thereof-> :ou see that5
A- :es-
@- ,hat s E9h6t A5
A- I !o#+t 2#o/-
@- ,ell1 tur# the pa8e- Is that E9h6t A5
A- )here+s #oth#8 o# that pa8e-
@- ,hat !oes t say5
A- >-xhibit &->
@- O2ay- Let+s tur# to the #e9t pa8e-
A- :es-
@- A#! /hy !o#+t you ta2e a se$o#! a#! loo2 throu8h /hat+s $o#ta#e! # E9h6t A- I assu4e1 at least1
/he# you s8#e! ths1 you rea! t5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! /hy !o#+t you loo2 throu8h that a#! tell 4e /hether that+s && those !o$u4e#ts set "orth
the ter4s o" the a8ree4e#t-
A- %reve/#8 !o$u4e#t* ,oul! you l2e 4e to rea! the e#tre e9h6t1 sr5
@- 'oes that set "orth the ter4s5
A- :es- )hs s ter4s1 yes-
@- A#! there are #u4erous e4als that set "orth the ter4s o" the a8ree4e#tB s that r8ht5
A- Are those atta$he!5
@- )hat+s E9h6t A-
A- Are these e4als5

@- :es-
A- I see o#e1 t/o && yes-
@- )here+s a lot 4ore tha# t/o1 are#+t there5
A- O2ay- I+4 loo2#8- I see o#e o# C29&000<- I see o#e o# 000D- )hose are the o#es I && are there 4ore
tha# that5
@- Goes all the /ay to 1;-
A- Oh1 o2ay-
@- A#!1 0ust1 4y 3uesto# sF Are these e4als1 !o they set "orth /hat are the ter4s o" your
arra#8e4e#t /th AEG5
A- :es-
@- .e$ause " you loo2 at the $o#tra$t &&
A- :es-
@- && the >)ertificate of -#loy#ent1> there+s #o ter4s spe$"$ally spe$"e!1 are there5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- 7sstates the !o$u4e#t-
@- )ell us /here the ter4s spe$"$ally are set "orth # the "rst three pa8es o" the loa#&out a8ree4e#t1 "
at all- 'oes t say ho/ 4u$h you+re 8o#8 to 8et pa!5
A- I have to rea! t- I 4ea#1 I $a#+t 0ust assu4e-
@- O2ay-
A- ,ell1 you tell 4e /hat you /a#t 4e to !o here-
@- ,ell1 I /a#t you to "#! "or 4e /here t says ho/ lo#8 the $o#tra$t s 8o#8 to 6e1 ho/ 4u$h you+re
8o#8 to 8et pa!1 # the "rst three pa8es o" that a8ree4e#t-
A- O2ay- O2ay- 7ay I have a 4o4e#t5
@- :ou $erta#ly 4ay-
A- )ha#2 you- %reve/#8 !o$u4e#t* I !o#+t see a#y 4e#to# o" "ee-
@- O2ay- ?o/ a6out the t4e o" the $o#tra$t1 the le#8th5
A- No-
@- )hose are all $o#ta#e! # the e4als1 E9h6t A1 are#+t they5

A- :es- :es-
@- Let+s 8o to the "rst pa8e-
A- :es1 I sa/ !ates # there1 a#! I sa/ a "ee # there1 yes-
@- O2ay- So && #o/1 t says o# pa8e < o" the e4als1 t says ho/ 4u$h you+re 8o#8 to 8et pa!B r8ht5
A- :es-
@- :ou+re 8o#8 to 8et three pay4e#tsB r8ht5
A- :es-
@- O"1 I th#21 3<01000- )here+s a 8uara#tee! a4ou#t you+re 8o#8 to 8et o" ho/ 4u$h5 Loo2 at
para8raph 3-
A- 2001000-
@- I th#2 t+s &&
A- It says1 >the additional /00,000> && para8raph 35
@- I th#2 the total s at the 6otto4-
A- Oh1 o2ay- It says " I+4 u#a6le to re#!er serv$es # $o##e$to# /th >=ootloose> "or the start o" the
"l41 the total 8uara#tee! a4ou#t /oul! 6e #$rease! 6y <001000 to a total o" 1-< 4llo#-
@- O2ay- A#! the# t says1 >bonuses-> a#! /hat are those 6o#uses "or5
A- I# the eve#t there /ere a!!to#al terrtores that /ere a!!e! o# to the tour-
@- )hat+s other $tes or $ou#tres /here &&
A- Cou#tres-
@- && /here the tour /oul! 8o5
A- Cou#tres1 yes-
@- )hat /as /rtte# # the $o#tra$t as o" Aprl 2<th5
A- It+s # these e4als here- It /as#+t # the "rst part-
@- ,ell1 the $o#tra$t re"ers to the e4als as the ter4sB r8ht5
A- :ou+re a6ove 4y hea! here- I+4 sorry-

@- )hat+s o2ay-
A- )hat+s /hy I have a# attor#ey a#! a# a8e#t-
@- =ar e#ou8h- No/1 the ter4 o" the $o#tra$t1 I th#2 t says 4ay 1 to Aprl && I+4 sorry1 to July 1<th-
:ou see that5
A- ,hat pa8e1 please5
@- E9h6t A1 pa8e 1-
A- Pa8e 1-
@- All r8ht- S2p that- )here /ere stll so4e u#$erta#ty /hether or #ot you /ere 8o#8 to 6e # ths
>=ootloose> pro0e$t- Is that a "ar state4e#t5
A- :es-
@- No/1 eve# thou8h you !!#+t s8# ths a8ree4e#t u#tl Aprl 2<th1 /ere you pa! "or the /or2 that
you !! 6e"ore s8##8 ths a8ree4e#t5
A- I u#!ersta#! I /as-
@- O2ay- ,ho /as pa!5
A- Ke##y Orte8a-
@- ,ho pa! you5
A- AEG
@- A"ter you s8#e! the $o#tra$t1 !! t 6e$o4e appare#t to you that the sho/s /ere #ot 8o#8 to 6e
a6le to 6e rea!y to 8o at the O2 o# the s$he!ule! !ate o" July Gth5
A- I !o#+t re4e46er /he# /e !s$usse! that a#! !eter4#e! that1 " t /as a"ter 4y $o#tra$t or 6e"ore1
6ut /e !! !s$uss that-
@- ,ell1 !! you have !s$usso#s /th 7r- Go#8a/are1 7r- Phllps a6out 4ov#8 the sho/s5
A- 7r- Phllps-
@- A#! I /a#t to sho/ you e9h6t 1DD- %#!$at#8*
Mr. Putnam: :our ho#or1 ths s #ot # ev!e#$e1 #or s the other e4al-
Mr. Panish: I have#+t !o#e a#yth#8 yet- =or purposes o"1 " I have to re"resh hs re$olle$to#1 I+ll 8et to
t- .ut t s a# AEG !o$u4e#t-
Mr. Putnam: :ou have to have a 3uesto# 6e"ore you re"resh-

Mr. Panish: ,hy are you o60e$t#85


Mr. Putnam: :our ho#or1 ths !o$u4e#t s #ot # ev!e#$e1 #or s the &&
Judge: O2ay- ,ell1 t loo2s l2e " you+re 8o#8 to use t1 use t to re"resh1 6ut he+s #ot o# ths e4al-
@- ,ell1 let 4e as2 you ths1 srF '! you 6e$o4e a/are that you /ere 8o#8 to have to ta2e the heat
"or 4a2#8 a #e/ s$he!ule "or the sho/5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- Va8ue as to >heat> a#! la$2s "ou#!ato#-
Judge: 'o you u#!ersta#! /hat he 4ea#s5
The #itness: :es-
Judge: Overrule!-
@- ?o/ !! you 6e$o4e a/are o" that5
A- ?o/ !! I 6e$o4e a/are o" the "a$t that I /as 8o#8 to ta2e the heat "or 4ov#8 the sho/5
@- :es-
A- It /as !s$usse! /th Aa#!y Phllps-
@- O2ay- A#! /hat !! 7r- Phllps say to you a6out you hav#8 to ta2e the heat5 ,hat !oes t 4ea# to
>ta2e the heat>5
A- Eh41 ta2e the respo#s6lty- Assu4e the respo#s6lty-
@- O2ay- ,as t your "ault that the sho/s $oul!#+t 8o /he# they /ere s$he!ule!5
A- )hat+s a really !""$ult 3uesto# to a#s/er >yes> or >#o->
@- O2ay- ,ell1 you $a# a#s/er t && let 4e as2 t to you ths /ay-
A- Eh&huh-
@- Aa#!y Phllps sa! to you1 >:ou+re 8o#8 to ta2e the heat>B s that r8ht5

A- No-
@- O2ay- '! you /a#t to ta2e the heat5
A- I /as $o4"orta6le ta2#8 the heat-
@- O2ay- '! you "eel that you !eserve! to ta2e the heat5

A- ,ell1 7$hael a#! I 6oth /a#te! to e9te#! our t4e 6e"ore ope##81 a#! so I "elt $o4"orta6le to
ta2e the heat1 6e$ause as the !re$tor o" the sho/1 I !!#+t "eel /e /ere 8o#8 to 6e rea!y /th the
or8#al !ates-
@- ,ell1 !! && let+s ta2e a loo21 the# &&
A- Eh&huh-
@- && at e9h6t D<9<-3- Is that a# e4al "ro4 you1 sr5
A- :es1 t s a# e4al "ro4 4e-
Mr. Panish: O2ay- Put t up1 please-
@- No/1 sr &&
A- A$tually1 I+4 sorry- Ca# I rea! t 6e"ore && !oes#+t have && t says the KO Co4pa#y1 a#! there are a
"e/ people there- So let 4e 0ust rea! t1 3u$2ly- )ha#2 you-
@- Sure- Go ahea!-
A- %reve/#8 !o$u4e#t* ths s "ro4 4e-
Mr. Panish: O2ay- Put t up-
@- No/1 6e"ore1 you tol! 4e you ha! #o pro6le4 ta2#8 the heatB r8ht5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- '! you re$eve a press release "ro4 AEG that you rea!5
A- I !o#+t re$all-
@- O2ay- ,ell1 $oul! you rea! to us /hat the "rst se#te#$e you /rote says5
A- >I*# unco#fortable with the way the release reads at this #o#ent.>
@- ,hat /ere you re"err#8 to5
A- A press release-
@- A#! /hat /as the su60e$t o" the e4al5
A- I !o#+t 2#o/-
@- ,ell1 t says >1ub2ect->
A- Oh- >3irst draft 45 for distribution on +ednesday->

@- Is >PA> press release5


A- Pu6l$ relato#s1 yeah-
@- A#! you !!#+t l2e the /ay the AEG press release re8ar!#8 the postpo#e4e#t o" the sho/s rea!1
!! you5
A- I !o#+t 2#o/ that that+s /hat ths says-
@- O2ay- ,ell1 /hy !o#+t you rea! "or us all the /ay up throu8h the yello/5
A- )hrou8h the yello/5
@- :es- )hrou8h the >ro$2 sho/> o# /hat you /rote && /ere you 6e#8 ho#est a#! truth"ul /he# you
/rote ths5
A- I 6eleve so-
@- )ell us /hat you /rote-
A- >I*# unco#fortable with the way the release reads at this #o#ent. I feel strongly that it is
unnecessary and #isleading to both the ress and fans to suggest things as staging is fro# another
lanet or never before seen staging. +e are not doing the )hinese Oly#ics->
@- ,ere you $o#$er#e! that the press release /as #a$$urate a#! 4slea!#85
A- It /as 4ore 4y $o#$er# that I !!#+t /a#t to over&6lo/ /hat the sho/ /as a6out-
@- So you /ere#+t $o#$er#e! that the press release /as 4slea!#8 to the press a#! the "a#s5
A- ,ell1 I !o#+t l2e to hype1 a#! I th#2 /hat I+4 say#8 here && t !oes say >#isleading-> >I feel
strongly that it is unnecessary and #isleading to both the ress and the fans to suggest that the
staging was fro# another lanet-> So I th#2 t /as e9a88erate!-
@- :ou !!#+t /rte >e9a88erate!1> !! you5
A- ,ell1 I sa! >+e*re not doing the )hinese Oly#ics-> '! you see the45
@- ,ell1 they /ere#+t 4slea!#81 /ere they5
A- )hey /ere e9a88erate!1 thou8h-
@- .ut !! you th#2 ths && /ell1 that+s /hat I+4 as2#8- )he Ch#ese Oly4p$s /ere /he#1 sr5
A- I# the su44er-
Judge: 200G-
The #itness: I !o#+t 2#o/ the !ate- )hey /ere the su44er 8a4es # .e0#8-

@- 7y 3uesto# to you1 sr1 s the press release1 # your op#o#1 /as t 4slea!#8 to the press5
A- :es-
@- )hat+s all I as2e!-
A- :es- Creatvely 4slea!#81 yes- )hat+s all-
@- All r8ht- A#! /hat /as your reaso# && you tol! 4e 6e"ore that your reaso# /as that you a#!
7$hael !!#+t "eel t /oul! 6e rea!yB s that r8ht5
A- )he sho/ 8ot so 681 yeah-
@- O2ay- ,hy !o#+t you rea! us /hat you /rote here # yello/ as to the reaso# /hy &&
A- Sure-
@- && the sho/ /as 6e#8 pushe! 6a$25
A- Sure-
@- ,hat you /rote o# 7ay 19th to Paul Go#8a/are a#! others-
A- O2ay- I# the yello/5
@- :es- >,y reasoning->
A- >,y reasoning for requesting to ush the oening date back a week was based on the need to
take the ressure off the vendors and the creative tea# and to give #yself #ore resonsible ti#e to
get #y ar#s around the full di#ension and details of this ro2ect->
@- ,as that a$$urate5
A- :es1 sr-
@- A#! !! the press release 8o out the /ay the "rst !ra"t /as that you /ere o60e$t#8 to5
A- I !o#+t re$all-
@- O2ay- ,ell1 let+s ta2e a loo2 at D<9<&2- Oh1 t+s the se$o#! pa8e- O2ay- No/1 7r- Phllps1 s he
3uote! # that press release1 sr5
A- ,here s the press release5
Mr. Panish: $a# I 8o up a#! sho/ t to h41 your ho#or5
Judge: :es-

The #itness: Pa8e 2-


@- Starts here %#!$at#8*1 a#! the# t 8oes to here- %#!$at#8*
Mr. Putnam: Pa8e 3-
The #itness: Oh1 o2ay-
@- It starts o# 2 a#! the# 8oes o#-
A- O2ay- :es1 he+s 3uote!-
@- )hs /as all th#8s that you re$eve!B r8ht5
A- I 4ay have re$eve! t-
@- O2ay- ,ell1 $oul! you tell us ho/ you $oul! say the press release /as 4slea!#8 " you ha! #ever
rea! t5
A- I thou8ht the or8#al press release1 the "rst !ra"t o" a press release that I loo2e! at1 /as 4slea!#8-
I !!#+t 2#o/ && I !o#+t 2#o/ " t /as a$tually release!-
@- O2ay- ,ell1 let+s loo2 at pa8e 3-
A- Eh&huh-
@- A#! &&
A- 7ay I as2 a 3uesto#5
@- Sure-
A- )he e4al that I se#t that /e 0ust !s$usse!1 s that # re8ar! to ths here5 %#!$at#8*
@- I 6eleve so-
A- O2ay- I /as#+t a/are o" that-
@- :ou tell 4e- I !!#+t se#! t-
A- ,ell &&
@- )a2e your t4e-
A- && so4et4es press releases are put # "ro#t o" 4e that have#+t 6ee# release! yet- )hey+re l2e a !ra"t1
a#! I+ll say >I !o#+t l2e t> or >I l2e t->
@- I th#2 that+s /hat t sa! # your e4al-

A- :eah-
@- I" /e /e#t 6a$21 you sa! o# the "rst pa8e so4eth#8 a6out the !ra"t you !!#+t l2e-
A- A8ht- )hat+s all I+4 say#8- So " ths s the a$tual press release &&
@- No1 I !o#+t th#2 ths s1 a$tually-
A- Oh1 o2ay-
@- It says >str$tly u#!er e46ar8o-> ,hat !oes that 4ea#5
A- %#o au!6le respo#se*
@- O2ay- =ar e#ou8h-
A- '! you have a 3uesto# "or 4e1 sr5
@- O2ay- ,here t saysF >"he cast is #assive and growing with constant additions fro# the dance
and #usic world lus extraordinary visual innovations al#ost fro# another lanet1> s that /hat you
/ere re"err#8 to /he# you sa! >unnecessary and #isleading> /he# you sa! so4eth#8 "ro4 a#other
pla#et5
A- Pro6a6ly1 yes-
@- I" /e 8o 6a$2 to 7r- Phllps1 !! he /rte # there so4eth#8 to the "a$t that >+e don*t anticiate
any further delays>5 'o you see that5
A- :es-
@- ,as t your u#!ersta#!#8 as o" ths t4e that 7r- Phllps !! #ot /a#t a#y "urther !elays5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- ,ere you stll /orre! at ths t4e that you+! have e#ou8h t4e to 8et the sho/ rea!y5
A- I re4e46er 6e#8 releve!-
@- :ou /ere releve! that you ha! a o#e&/ee2 $o#t#ua#$e5
A- :eah-
@- '! you th#2 t /as a t8ht s$he!ule5
A- :es-
@- '! you th#2 t /as 4porta#t that 7$hael Ja$2so# $o4e to rehearsals5
A- :es-

@- O2ay- ,he# !! you "rst 4eet Co#ra! 7urray5


A- At 7$hael+s house o# Carol/oo!-
@- O2ay- ,he#5
A- 'o#+t 2#o/ the e9a$t !ate-
@- ?o/ a6out your 6est est4ate5 7o#ths5 ,hat 4o#th5
A- It /as early # our s$he!ule- L2e 4ay6e # Aprl-
@- ,as t Aprl or 7ay5
A- :es1 sr-
@- Is that your 6est re$olle$to#5
A- )hat+s 4y 6est re$olle$to#1 yes-
@- A#! that /as at the Carol/oo! ho4eB $orre$t5
A- :es-
@- '! you see Co#ra! 7urray $o4e to rehearsals5
A- I re4e46er h4 $o4#81 6ut #ot that 4u$h- 7ay6e o#$e or t/$e-
@- A#! /oul! you say he /as l4te! o# the rehearsals that he &&
A- :es-
@- && atte#!e!5
A- :es-
@- '! you see h4 at the =oru45
A- I !o#+t re$all-
@- O2ay- ,ell1 the 4a# rehearsals /ere at the =oru45
A- :eah- ?e !!#+t $o4e 6e"ore the#1 I 2#o/ that-
@- ,ell1 ho/ 4a#y rehearsals /ere there at the Staples that 7$hael /as at5
A- )/o1 I 6eleve-

@- 23r! a#! 2;th o" Ju#e5


A- )hat+s r8ht- :es-
@- So /as he there o# those !ays5
A- I !o#+t 6eleve so-
@- So /oul! t 6e "ar to say that /he# you sa/ h41 t /as at the "oru45
A- :es1 sr-
@- O2ay- No/1 !o you 2#o/ && !! you ever see 'r- 7urray+s a8ree4e#t /th AEG5
A- No-
@- 'o you 2#o/ a#yth#8 a6out hs a8ree4e#t /th AEG5
A- No-
@- ,ere you #volve! # a#y /ay # the !s$usso#s a6out that a8ree4e#t5
A- No-
@- O2ay- 'r- 7urray1 /as there a t4e /he# he /as #volve! # $reat#8 the s$he!ule "or rehearsals5
A- :es-
@- A#! /ho tol! you that 'r- 7urray /as $reat#8 the s$he!ule "or rehearsals5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- La$2s "ou#!ato#-
Judge: Overrule!-
A- I+4 #ot $erta# " t /as Aa#!y1 Paul- I !o#+t 6eleve t /as the !o$tor- I 6eleve t /as o#e o" the t/o
8e#tle4e#-
@- So t /as && ether 7r- Phllps or 7r- Go#8a/are /ere the o#es /ho tol! you that 'r- 7urray /as
8o#8 to 6e $reat#8 the s$he!ule &&
A- Creat#8 7$hael+s s$he!ule-
@- ,ell1 I ha!#+t "#she! yet- It /as ether 7r- Phllps or 7r- Go#8a/are /ho tol! you that 'r-
7urray /as 8o#8 to 6e $reat#8 the rehearsal s$he!ule "or 7$hael Ja$2so#5
A- :es-
@- A#! !! they tell you /hether or #ot he /as 8o#8 to help so that 7$hael $oul! 4a2e rehearsals5

A- :es-
@- No/1 /as t your respo#s6lty to 6e # $har8e o" the $o#te#t a#! stru$ture o" the sho/ #
$o#sult#8 /th 7$hael Ja$2so#5
A- O#e 4ore t4e1 please5
@- ,ho /as respo#s6le "or the $o#te#t o" the sho/5
A- 7$hael Ja$2so#-
@- ,ere you also respo#s6le5
A- :es-
@- So you a#! 7$hael Ja$2so#5
A- :es-
@- A#! &&
A- 7$hael1 "#al /or!-
@- O2ay- A#! !! you have a# u#!ersta#!#81 6ase! o# !s$usso#s /th AEG1 that Aa#!y Phllps a#!
'r- 7urray /ere 8o#8 to 6e respo#s6le "or 7J+s rehearsal s$he!ule a#! atte#!a#$e at the rehearsals5
A- =rst 'r- 7urray1 a#! the# Aa#!y helpe!1 yes-
@- A#! Aa#!y /as 8o#8 to 6e /th 'r- 7urray1 4a2#8 sure that 7$hael $a4e to the rehearsals5
A- I !o#+t ever re4e46er hear#8 &&
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- Lea!#8 a#! &&
Judge: Susta#e! as to lea!#8-
Mr. Panish: ,ell1 s ths a 8oo! t4e or &&
Judge: A#other 10
7#utes- ,e starte! lttle 6t late-
Mr. Panish: O2ay- No /orres-
@- ,ell1 sr1 $oul! you tell 4e1 /hat /as 'r- 7urray suppose! to !o5 ,as he 8o#8 to 8ve you the
s$he!ule /he# 7$hael /as 8o#8 to $o4e5
A- :es-
@- ,as that usual1 that you ha! !o$tors # rehearsals 8v#8 you a s$he!ule o" /he# the artst /oul!

$o4e5
A- No-
@- ?a! you ever !o#e that 6e"ore5
A- No-
@- ,as t usual that a perso# "ro4 a $o4pa#y1 l2e 7r- Phllps1 a#! a !o$tor /oul! 6e respo#s6le "or
the artst+s atte#!a#$e a#! rehearsal s$he!ule5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to# as to >respo#s6le "or atte#!a#$e->
Judge: Assu4es "a$ts #ot # ev!e#$e-
Mr. Panish: Oh1 t s # ev!e#$e1 a$tually- I+ll sho/ you the e9h6t- Let+s ta2e a loo2 at t- )hat /oul!
6e e9h6t #o- 33D-
Judge: Sho/ the /t#ess "rst-
Mr. Panish: I /ll- It+s # ev!e#$e- :ou rea!y1 7r- Put#a45
Mr. Putnam: Eh&huh-
@- O2ay- Let+s tal2 a6out "a$ts # ev!e#$e- )hs e9h6t here1 7r- ,oolley you 4e#to#e! earlerB
r8ht5
A- :eah- :ou 4e#to#e! h41 yes-
@- A8ht- I 4e#to#e! h4- )ha#2 you- It says thatF >(enny Ortega has resonsibility only for show
content and structure in consultation with ,6.> =rst 3uesto# sF Is that true or "alse5
A- )rue-
@- O2ay- )he# t saysF >5andy 4hillis and 7r. ,urray are resonsible for ,6*s rehearsal and
attendance schedule-> ,as that your u#!ersta#!#8 or #ot your u#!ersta#!#85
A- It /as#+t # the 6e8###8- It 6e$a4e 4y u#!ersta#!#8-
@- O2ay- ,he# !! t && str2e that- '! a pro6le4 !evelop /here you /ere $o#$er#e! that 7$hael
Ja$2so# /as #ot atte#!#8 rehearsals5
A- :es-
@- As a result o" that pro6le41 !! you rase those ssues5
A- :es-
@- '! you rase those ssues to the 4a#a8e4e#t "ro4 AEG or so4eo#e else5

Mr. Putnam: O60e$to# as to >4a#a8e4e#t->


@- ,ell1 let 4e as2 you ths &&
Judge: :eah-
@- && /hat posto# s Aa#!y Phllps #5
Judge: :ou 4ay a#s/er-
@- 'o you 2#o/ /hat a CEO s5
A- :es-
@- I# your 4#!1 s that 4a#a8e4e#t o" a $o4pa#y5
A- )hat+s $o#troller o" a $o4pa#y1 I /oul! say-
@- ,ell1 s that h8her tha# 4a#a8e4e#t5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! 7r- Go#8a/are1 /as he # 4a#a8e4e#t o" the $o4pa#y5
A- I !o#+t 2#o/ /hat hs role # the $o4pa#y /as1 a$tually-
@- All r8ht-
A- I 2#o/ he /as a# a""late o" the $o4pa#y1 6ut I !o#+t 2#o/ /hat hs a$tual role /as-
@- O2ay- =ar e#ou8h- No/1 the !ate o" ths e4al s Ju#e 23r!- See that5
A- :eah-
@- So at so4e po#t # t4e1 you rase! so4e $o#$er#s1 a#! /e+ll 8et 6a$2 to that1 6ut t /as 6e"ore
thsB r8ht5
A- :es-
@- A#! you u#!erstoo!1 a"ter $o#$er#s that you ha! rase!1 that Aa#!y Phllps a#! 'r- 7urray /ere
6oth 8o#8 to 6e respo#s6le "or 7J+s rehearsal a#! atte#!a#$e s$he!ule- Is that /hat you u#!erstoo!5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#!1 sr1 have you ever see# su$h a stuato# /here the CEO o" a pro4oter a#! pro!u$er a#!
a phys$a# /ere respo#s6le "or a# artst+s rehearsal s$he!ule a#! atte#!a#$e s$he!ule5
A- No-

@- '! you have 'r- 7urray+s $ell pho#e pro8ra44e! #to your $ell pho#e5
A- :es-
@- A#! /he# 'r- 7urray /as $reat#8 the s$he!ule "or rehearsal1 !! you !s$uss that /th h45
A- :es-
@- A#! !! you th#2 t /as 4porta#t that you have #put as to /he# 7r- Ja$2so# /oul! $o4e to
rehearsal5
A- I 0ust /a#te! h4 to $o4e to rehearsal- I# ter4s o" /he# he $a4e1 I /as $o4pletely ope# to
stru$tur#8 everyth#8 arou#! that-
@- O2ay- =ar e#ou8h- .ut your #u46er o#e 8oal /as that he /oul! 6e there5
A- At a $erta# po#t t 6e$a4e 4y #u46er o#e 8oal1 yes-
@- A#! you ha! rase! these $o#$er#s 6e"ore that you /ere $o#$er#e! a6out h4 #ot 6e#8 at
rehearsal5
A- :es-
@- .e$ause that1 at least # your 4#!1 $reate! the poss6lty that the sho/ /oul! #ot 6e rea!y to 8o
/he# t /as s$he!ule!B s that r8ht5
A- :es-
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- Lea!#8-
Judge: Overrule!-
@- A#!1 sr1 /oul! you say that you $o44u#$ate! # Ju#e re8ularly /th 'r- 7urray5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- Va8ue as to >re8ularly->
Judge: Overrule!-
A- :es-
@- No/1 !o you have the sa4e $ell pho#e #u46er that you ha! the#5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- So I+4 #ot 8o#8 to say t1 o2ay1 6ut I a4 8o#8 to sho/ you && a#! I 6la#2e! out your #u46er
&& e9h6t <&3091- A#! these are so4e pho#e re$or!s- A#! I+4 8o#8 to "o$us here "ro4 Ju#e 1Gth o#-
%#!$at#8* a#! 0ust1 !oes your #u46er have a# G1G pre"95

A- :es-
@- A#! !o you && I+4 #ot 8o#8 to 4a2e you 8o throu8h t all1 6ut let 4e sho/ you-
Judge: )he /t#ess says he #ee!s a 6rea21 so /hy !o#+t /e ta2e a 1<&4#ute 6rea25 All r8ht- )ha#2
you- 1< 4#utes-
The !ury e$its the courtroom"
Judge: O2ay-
Ms. Stebbins: )ha#2 you1 your ho#or-
%ecess"
The !ury enters the courtroom"
Judge: Kather#e Ja$2so# versus AEG Lve- O2ay- Let+s $o#t#ue-
@- 7r- Orte8a1 up there s e9h6t <&30911 /h$h are so4e pho#e re$or!s- No/1 I !o#+t /a#t to sho/
the4 all1 6e$ause so4e o" the4 have part o" your #u46er o# there1 so I !o#+t /a#t to sho/ the41 6ut
I+4 8o#8 to as2 you so4e 3uesto#s a6out tB o2ay5 'o you 2#o/ ho/ to rea! these5
Mr. Panish: Ca# /e 0ust put t up "or the /t#ess5
Judge: ?o/ a6out the /t#ess a#! the $ourt5
Mr. Putnam: I+ll ta2e t1 too-
7r- Pa
#shF I 4ea# "or everyo#e 6ut the 0ury- )hat+s /hat I 4ea#t-
Judge: O2ay-
Mr. Panish: O2ay-
@- O2ay- :ou see there+s so4e yello/e!&out porto#s thereB o2ay5 A#! " you loo2 at the sheet that you
have1 a#! " you 8o over to the 4!!le1 t says the !ate- 'o you see that5
A- :es-
@- D&1G5 ,e+ve 2#! o" 6lo/# t up "or you so you shoul! 6e a6le to see t 6etter-
A- I see D&19- Just o#e 4o4e#t-
@- 7ay6e you+re #ot o# the "rst pa8e5
A- Oh1 I+4 #ot-

@- )hat /as 4y "ault- I th#2 I !! that to you-


A- Corre$t-
@- O2ay- :ou see there5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- No/1 D&1G1 t loo2s l2e there+s "our $alls 6et/ee# yoursel" a#! 'r- 7urray- I+ve yello/e!
the4 out "or you-
A- Corre$t-
@- 'oes that see4 r8ht5
A- :es-
@- A#!1 sr1 o#e o" those $alls laste! "or a6out 30 4#utesB s that r8ht5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! !o you re$all that 30&4#ute $all you ha! /th 'r- 7urray o# that !ay5
A- I re$all the telepho#e $alls # 8e#eral- I !o#+t re4e46er the !ays spe$"$ally-
@- O2ay- I $a# sho/ && I /a#t to 0ust sho/ the o#e 30&4#ute $all1 6e$ause t !oes#+t have your "ull
#u46er o# tB o2ay5
A- O2ay-
@- Just so /e+re o# the sa4e pa8e- A#! the t4e o" the $all1 s that 1;F1C to 1; &&
Mr. Panish: ,e $a# put that up- )hat+s o2ay-
@- O2ay- So ths s o# e9h6t <&30911 a#! ths s a $all o# Ju#e 1Gth1 20091 "ro4 1;F1C to 1;F;C1
appro94ately 30 4#utes- It+s a$tually a "e/ se$o#!s1 so4e se$o#!sB o2ay5
A- :es-
@- A#! 1;F1C s 2F1C # the a"ter#oo#5 Is that your u#!ersta#!#85
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! rehearsal /as s$he!ule! "or /hat t4e that !ay5 No !ea5
A- No !ea-
@- O2ay- ,oul! you have 6ee# &&

A- ,e pro6a6ly /ere # rehearsal1 thou8h1 " t /as 2F00 # the a"ter#oo#-


@- ,hy s that5
A- ,e usually /ere # rehearsal # the a"ter#oo#s-
@- ,ell1 7$hael Ja$2so#1 /as he # rehearsal o# Ju#e 1Gth5
A- I !o#+t 6eleve so-
@- ,oul! that 6e o#e o" the reaso#s /hy you /oul! $all 'r- 7urray1 to "#! out /hat+s 8o#8 o# /th
7$hael Ja$2so#5
A- )hat /oul! have 6ee# a reaso#1 yes-
@- Ca# you th#2 o" a#y other reaso# /hy you /oul! $all 'r- 7urray "or a hal" a# hour1 6ut "or your
$o#$er# a6out 7$hael Ja$2so# #ot 6e#8 at rehearsal5
A- 7y o/# "rustrato#s-
@- I# other /or!s1 your "rustrato#s /ere start#8 to 6ul! &&
A- :es-
@- && # that 7$hael /as #ot $o4#8 to rehearsal &&
A- :es-
@- && a#! you /ere 2#! o"1 /oul! you say1 $ry#8 out to 'r- 7urray to help you5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- Lea!#8-
Judge: Susta#e!-
@- O2ay- ,hat /ere you !o#8 /th respe$t to 'r- 7urray5
A- I /as && he /as && I /as tol! he /as $reat#8 the s$he!ule1 a#! so the s$he!ule /as#+t /or2#81 a#!
so I /as- ?e /as l2e 4y l"el#e1 so to spea2-
@- Sr1 !!#+t you test"y && str2e that- ?ave you ever test"e! that you /ere $ry#8 out to 'r- 7urray
"or help5
A- I 4ay have1 yes- :eah- I 4ay have use! those /or!s1 yes-
@- ,oul! that 6e a "ar /ay to !es$r6e the reaso# /hy you /ere $all#85
A- Partly1 yes- I# part1 yes-
@- ?ave you !es$r6e! t l2e that 6e"ore5

A- I !o#+t re$all1 6ut t+s #ot 6eyo#! /hat I /oul! have && ho/ I /oul! have !es$r6e! a $all-
@- ,ell1 let 4e as2 you ths-
A- :eah-
@- 'o you re4e46er test"y#8 that ths /as arou#! the "rst !ay o" the #e/ s$he!ule5
A- :es-
@- A#! t alrea!y /as#+t /or2#81 a#! ths /as 2#! o" a $ry "or help5
A- :es-
@- A#! 7$hael ha! #ot 6ee# $o4#8 to rehearsal the /ee2 6e"ore ths1 ether1 ha! he5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- Lea!#8-
Judge: Overrule!-
The #itness: )hs s Ju#e 1Gth5
@- :es1 sr-
A- :es- ?e /as #ot $o4#8-
@- O2ay- A#! 6e"ore1 there /ere t4es /he# he !!#+t $o4e1 a#! && # other /or!s1 t /as#+t every !ay
he !!#+t $o4e # the 4o#th o" 4ayB s that r8ht5
A- :es-
@- .ut t /as stll "ar e#ou8h a/ay that you "8ure!1 /ell1 he+s #ot $o4#8 all the t4e1 6ut 4ay6e as t
8ets $loser1 /e $a# 8et t set up5
Mr. Putnam: Lea!#8-
Judge: Susta#e!-
Mr. Panish: ,ell1 your ho#or &&
Judge: Not yet-
Mr. Panish: I !o#+t #ee! to && #o1 6ut u#!er && /e+ll tal2 a6out t later-
@- ,as 7$hael $o4#8 to rehearsals every !ay # 4ay5
A- No-

@- O2ay- ,he# I say >every !ay1> I 4ea# every s$he!ule! !ay o" rehearsal-
A- )hat+s && that1 I $a#+t a#s/er-
@- ,ell1 have you ever 6ee# #volve! # a sho/ /here you+re $all#8 the !o$tor o" a# artst to 4a2e &&
/he# he+s #ot $o4#8 to rehearsal5
A- No-
@- ,ell1 sr1 s#+t t true that pror to the 4o#th o" Ju#e1 7$hael /as 4ss#8 rehearsals5
A- I" so1 he /as#+t 4ss#8 as 4a#y- I !o#+t re$all that 6e#8 the trou6le 4o#th- I $oul!
.e $orre$te!- I 0ust re4e46er Ju#e 4ore spe$"$ally-
@- ,ell1 Ju#e he /as#+t $o4#8 at all "or a pero! o" t4eB s#+t that &&
A- )hat+s $orre$t-
@- ,ell1 a$tually1 you re4e46er test"y#8 a6out t # a prel4#ary hear#8 a6out /he# he /as $o4#8
to the rehearsal a#! /he# he /as#+t5
A- I !o#+t-
@- O2ay- Let 4e see " I $a# re"resh your re$olle$to#-
Mr. Panish: Loo2#8 at pa8e <21 $ou#sel-
Mr. Putnam: ,hat s t5
Mr. Panish: <2 o" hs test4o#y u#!er oath-
@- ,hy !o#+t you start rea!#8 at l#e 2<- I+ve a$tually yello/e! out the e9a$t porto#s "or you- See "
that re"reshes your re$olle$to# a6out $o4#8 a#! #ot $o4#8 to rehearsals-
Judge: 'ur#8 Ju#e or 7ay5
Mr. Panish: All the 4o#ths- Aprl1 7ay a#! Ju#e-
The #itness: Are you rea!y "or 4e to rea!5
@- Go ahea!-
Judge: Aea! t to yoursel"-
The #itness: >fro# the #iddle> &&
Judge: No- Aea! t to yoursel"-
@- )o yoursel"-

A- Oh- %reve/#8 !o$u4e#t* yes-


@- 'oes that re"resh your re$olle$to#5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- )ell 4e /hat your re$olle$to# /as re8ar!#8 7$hael+s $o4#8 or #ot $o4#8 to rehearsal-
A- I re$all 7$hael #ot $o4#8 to rehearsals "or a pero! o" t4e # Ju#e-
@- O2ay- ,ell1 /as he 4ss#8 rehearsals "ro4 the 4!!le o" Aprl o#5
A- I !o#+t 6eleve that+s /hat that says-
@- ,ell1 you 2#o/ /hat5 I+ll 0ust play t1 the#-
Mr. Panish:- Let+s play t1 the v!eotape o" hs test4o#y-
Mr. Putnam: I o60e$t1 your ho#or1 " t+s "or 4pea$h4e#t- It !oes#+t say that-
Judge: ,ell1 let 4e see t- Is t prel4#ary hear#8 test4o#y5
Mr. Panish: It+s a prel4-
Ms. Stebbins: )he prel4#ary hear#8- I !o#+t 2#o/ /hether you have t or #ot-
Judge: )hs s the v!eo !epo o" Joh# Orte8a && Ke##y Orte8a-
Ms. Stebbins: Co#t#ues o# to the #e9t pa8e1 your ho#or-
Judge: %reve/#8 !o$u4e#t* O2ay- So /hat !o you /a#t to play5
Mr. Panish: Pa8e <21 l#e 2<1 to pa8e <31 l#e G- ,ell1 to l#e D1 "rst-
Judge: )o l#e D5
Mr. Panish: :es1 your ho#or-
Judge: O2ay- A#! your o60e$to# s 4proper 4pea$h4e#t5
Mr. Putnam: )here+s #oth#8 # there that he 4sse! a#yth#8 # Aprl-
Judge: ,ell1 su60e$t to vary#8 #terpretato#s-
Mr. Putnam: O2ay-
Judge: So I+ll let you play t-

@- A#! 6e"ore /e !o that1 7r- Orte8a1 you+re #ot say#8 he /as#+t 4ss#8 rehearsals # Aprl a#! 7ay1
are you5
A- I+4 #ot say#8 that he /as#+t1 #o-
@- O2ay- ,hat you+re say#8 /as1 t /as#+t u#tl 4! Ju#e that he /as 4ss#8 every !ay5
A- :es-
@- So as you say t hereF
Question: "3ro# the #iddle of &ril until 6une 89th, how #any rehearsals was ,ichael 6ackson
#issing, would you esti#ate:"
Answer: ";e #issed a nu#ber of rehearsals in a eriod."
)he# /e 8o to the #e9t pa8e1 a#! the# you sayF >It wasn*t -- it was later in rehearsal that he suddenly
was #issing fro# rehearsals->
Question: "7o you recall whether there was so#e conversation with &-< and other eole on this
roduction about hi# #issing those rehearsals?"
Answer: "=es."
So s /hat you+re try#8 to say s1 he /as 4ss#81 6ut as o" 4! Aprl1 he /as#+t $o4#8 && I+4 sorry &&
4! Ju#e1 he /as#+t $o4#8 at all5
A- :es-
@- A#! that $ause! you a tre4e#!ous a4ou#t o" $o#ster#ato#1 !!#+t t5
A- :es-
@- O2ay-
Mr. Panish: :ou $a# ta2e that !o/#-
@- No/1 6a$2 to /here /e /ere- Ju#e 1Gth1 you ha! the 30&4#ute $all /th 'r- 7urrayB $orre$t5
A- :es-
@- Other tha# !s$uss#8 /hy 7$hael /as#+t at rehearsal1 !o you re$all a#yth#8 else !s$usse! # that
pho#e $all5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- 7sstates pror test4o#y-
The #itness: No-
Mr. Putnam: ?e sa! $oul! have 6ee#1 !!#+t say t /as-

Judge: I+4 sorry- Aepeat5 :our 3uesto# /as1 !! you !s$uss a#yth#8 else5
Mr. Panish: A8ht-
Judge: A#! your o60e$to# /as5
Mr. Putnam: It 4sstates hs pror state4e#t-
Mr. Panish: ?e a#s/ere!-
Judge: Overrule!- A#! your a#s/er /as5
Mr. Panish: >No->
@- 7r- Orte8a1 let+s $lear t up- Other tha# &&
Mr. Panish: ,ell1 he alrea!y a#s/ere! t-
Judge: ,ell1 I !!#+t hear t-
Mr. Panish: Ca# I as2 the $ourt reporter &&
Judge: '! he #ot re4e46er1 or #o5
Mr. Panish: Ca# I as2 the $ourt reporter to rea! 6a$2 the 3uesto# a#! a#s/er 6e"ore /e ha! the
#terrupto#5
Judge: Sure- Let+s !o that-
The re&uested &uestion and ans#er #as read back"
Judge: O2ay- )hat+s "#e- )he a#s/er /ll sta#!-
@- All r8ht- Ca# you th#2 o" a#y other reaso# /hy you /oul! #ee! to !s$uss a#yth#8 /th 'r-
7urray1 other tha# 7$hael Ja$2so# #ot $o4#8 to rehearsal5
A- No-
@- .e$ause1 as "ar as you 2#e/1 he /as the perso# you shoul! !eal /th re8ar!#8 the rehearsal
s$he!ule5
A- :es-
@- It /as#+t 7$hael Ja$2so#1 t /as#+t 7r- Go#8a/are1 t /as#+t Aa#!y Phllps1 t /as 'r- Co#ra!
7urray that you /ere tol! to $all " there /as a#y ssue a6out 7$hael $o4#8 to rehearsalB s that
r8ht5
A- :es-

@- O# ths !ay o" Ju#e 1Gth1 !o you re4e46er yoursel" hav#8 so4e serous "rustrato#5
A- :es-
@- ,hat /as your "rustrato#5
A- )hat all that /e ha! /or2e! "or to8ether1 7$hael a#! I1 hs !rea41 ths 8oal that he ha!1 ths !esre1
/as 8o#8 to "all a/ay-
@- A#! all the th#8s that you+re re"err#8 to s the pro!u$to# o" )hs Is It5
A- :es-
@- A#! you /ere respo#s6le && str2e that- ,ere you respo#s6le "or see#8 that ths sho/ /e#t
"or/ar!5
A- I# part-
@- I# part- As the !re$tor1 /as that o#e o" your respo#s6ltes1 to 8et every6o!y rea!y a#! 8et the
sho/ o# the roa!5
A- As the $o&!re$tor1 yes-
@- As the $o&!re$tor1 r8ht- .ut you $oul!#+t !o that /thout 7$hael Ja$2so#5
A- ?e /as 4y !re$t#8 part#er-
@- .ut he also /as the per"or4er5
A- :eah-
@- So " you /ere 0ust !re$t#81 a#! 7$hael /as#+t # the sho/1 you $oul! have stll !o#e t5
A- :es-
@- .ut you #ee!e! h4 6oth to help you !re$t#8 a#! to per"or45
A- :es-
@- ,thout h41 #o sho/5
A- :es-
@- So the #e9t !ay1 Ju#e 19th1 there are1 I $ou#t && a#! I !o#+t #ee! to sho/ the4 all to you && a6out 11
$alls 6a$2 a#! "orth 6et/ee# you a#! 'r- 7urray- No/1 they+re #ot all /here you+re tal2#8- So4e o"
the4 loo2 l2e short1 $oul! have 6ee# vo$e4als1 $all&6a$2s-
Mr. Panish: Is hs #u46er o# there5 No5 O2ay- Let+s put t up there1 as lo#8 as hs #u46er s #ot o#

there-
@- O2ay- )hs s the "rst pa8e- )here+s o#e1 t/o1 three1 "our1 "ve1 s91 seve#1 e8ht- ,ll you ver"y that
"or 4e1 sr5 Is that r8ht5 D&195
A- :es-
@- See e8ht o# the "rst pa8eB r8ht5
A- ,hat !o you /a#t 4e to ver"y1 please5
@- Just that there+s e8ht $o44u#$ato#s-
A- ?o/ a4 I to !eter4#e that5 I see th#8s h8hl8hte!1 6ut I+4 #ot 3ute sure ho/ to !eter4#e that-
Judge: It+s har! to see-
Mr. Panish: Ca# I $o4e up a#! sho/ h4 ho/ he &&
@- O2ay- Let 4e 0ust sho/ you- So here t says the $all#8 #u46er %#!$at#8*B o2ay5
A- Eh&huh-
@ a#! here t says /hether so4eo#e s $all#8 or #ot- :ou "ollo/ 4e5 ?ere >inbound/outbound>5
%#!$at#8*
A- Eh&huh-
@- So /he# they 8et ths out o" ths 4$ros$op$ &&
Judge: ?ar! to see-
Mr. Panish: I hear you-
@- So >%G1G*&<121> that+s youB r8ht5
A- Eh&huh-
@- )here+s o#e1 t/o1 three && 8o up a6ove that1 there+s t/o r8ht there1 "our1 "ve1 s91 seve#1 e8ht1 ##e-
Ne9t pa8e- )e# && I hope I a!!e! these r8ht- I th#2 there /as o#e 4ore- )here+s up a6ove && I !o#+t
2#o/ " those are a !""ere#t !ate1 thou8h- 7ay6e #ot- )here+s a #u46er o" $alls #!$at#8 your
#u46erB "ar e#ou8h5
A- :es-
@- 'o you re4e46er /hether you a$tually /ere a6le to spea2 to 'r- 7urray o# that !ay5
A- I !o#+t re$all-

@- .e$ause t see4s to 4e1 loo2#8 at t1 a#! you $a# see &&


A- :es-
@- && so4e o" the4 are very short-
A- :es-
@- L2e 4ay6e you $alle! a#! le"t a 4essa8e1 or he $alle! you a#! le"t a 4essa8e- 'o you re4e46er
that happe##85
A- )he 19th /as && I re4e46er that !ay-
@- O2ay- ,hy && /as that && so4eth#8 u#usual happe# o# that !ay5
A- :es-
@- A#! !! so4eth#8 happe# that $ause! you serous $o#$er#5
A- :es-
@- A#! !! that have to !o /th the $o#!to# o" 7$hael Ja$2so#5
A- :es-
@- ,here /ere you o# Ju#e 19th5
A- At rehearsal at the "oru4-
@- Got you- )he #e9t 3uesto# /as1 /hat /as the lo$ato#5 It /as at the "oru4- ?o/ lo#8 ha! you
6ee# rehears#8 at the "oru45
A- ,e usually starte! # the a"ter#oo#-
@- .a! 3uesto#- ?o/ 4a#y /ee2s1 4o#ths5
A- I 6eleve /e 4ove! #to the "oru4 # Ju#e-
@- O2ay- A$tually1 loo2s l2e you start $all#8 at 11F2<- :ou see1 l2e the "rst $all s1 l2e1 30 se$o#!sB
se$o#! $all s a short o#eB thr! o#e s a "e/ 4#utes- I !o#+t 2#o/ " you le"t a vo$e4al- .ut the# all
these $alls1 loo2s l2e you+re $all#8 6et/ee# 11F2D a#! a6out 1F;0 # the a"ter#oo#- 'o you th#2 that
48ht have 6ee# /he# rehearsal /as 8o#8 o#5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- ,as 7$hael Ja$2so# a6le to rehearse that !ay5
A- No-

@- ,ere you $o#$er#e! a6out h4 that !ay5


A- :es-
@- A#! ths /as a"ter the pero! o" t4e /he# he /as#+t eve# sho/#8 upB r8ht5
A- :es-
@- ,as ths l2e the "rst !ay he /as 8o#8 to $o4e5
A- I 6eleve so-
@- '! you have a# u#!ersta#!#8 && /ere you # $o44u#$ato# at all /th 7r- Go#8a/are a#! 7r-
Phllps !ur#8 ths pero! o" t4e5
A- :es-
@- '! you lear# "ro4 7r- Phllps a#! 7r- Go#8a/are that they ha! ha! a# #terve#to# /th 7$hael
Ja$2so# at the Ca#!le/oo! %s$* ho4e5
A- I re4e46er that there /as a pla# to try to 8et && to 8et the s$he!ule # or!er a#! to && you 2#o/1
6e$ause t /as 4y "eel#8 that /e /ere#+t 8o#8 to 4a2e t1 you 2#o/1 a#! I th#2 there /as a pla# to
4a2e that $lear1 you 2#o/-
@- .ut !! 7r- Phllps ever tell you1 or 7r- Go#8a/are1 use the /or! that they ha! a# >#terve#to#>
/th 7$hael Ja$2so# at hs Ca#!le/oo! ho4e5
A- )hey 4ay have- I !o#+t re$all at ths 4o4e#t1
.ut they 4ay have-
@- O2ay- ,ell1 /hy !o#+t && so ho/ lo#8 ha! t 6ee# that 7$hael ha!#+t eve# $o4e to rehearsal 6e"ore
the 19th5
A- A 8oo! /ee2-
@- Coul! t have 6ee# 4ore tha# a /ee25
A- It $oul! have 6ee#- I re4e46er t 6e#8 arou#! a /ee2-
@- ,he# /ere you suppose! to 8o to Lo#!o#5
A- I 6eleve /e /ere leav#8 July 3r!-
@- So #o/ /e+re at July 19th1 a#! there are &&
A- No- Ju#e 19th-
@- I+4 th#2#8 o" #o/-

A- No pro6le4-
@- ,e+re at Ju#e 19th1 you+re leav#8 July 3r!5
A- )hat+s $orre$t-
@- So that+s a6out 1; !ays5
A- :es-
@- Not a lot o" t4e-
A- No-
@- So /he# you leave the 3r!1 that 4ea#s there /oul!#+t 6e rehearsal o# the 3r!5
A- Corre$t-
@- A#! I 2#o/ /e have a# e9h6t1 I !o#+t really /a#t to 8o 6a$2 to t1 6ut ho/ 4a#y !ays a /ee2
/oul! rehearsals 6e s$he!ule!5
A- I# Los A#8eles5
@- :eah-
A- I 6eleve "ve !ays a /ee2- 7ay6e s9- I !o#+t th#2 so1 thou8h- I th#2 t /as "ve-
@- So1 6as$ally1 you ha! a6out 10 rehearsals le"t5
A- :es- .et/ee# 10 a#! 12-
@- A#! as "ar as your posto# as the $o&!re$tor1 you ha! a serous $o#$er# /hether the sho/ $oul! 8o
o#5
A- O# the 19th I ha! 4ore tha# a serous $o#$er#-
@- ,hat+s 4ore tha# serous5
A- I !!#+t th#2 t /as 8o#8 to 8o o#-
@- :ou ha! serous !ou6t5
A- :es-
@- A#! that+s less tha# t/o /ee2s1 appro94ately t/o /ee2s 6e"ore you /ere 8o#8 to 6e # Lo#!o#5
A- :es-
@- A#! the# the sho/ /as 8o#8 to start o# /hat !ate5

A- I !o#+t 2#o/ the start#8 !ate1 6ut I 2#o/ that /e /ere 8o#8 to rehearse # Lo#!o# "or a $ouple o"
/ee2s-
@- O2ay- So 4ay6e1 l2e1 10 rehearsals5
A- 10 or 12 rehearsals-
@- O2ay- ,e have that s$he!ule1 6ut I !o#+t /a#t to 8et to t r8ht #o/- All r8ht- So /hat I+! l2e to
2#o/ r8ht #o/1 sr1 s ha! you #ot eve# see# 7$hael "or a /ee2 or 4ore as o" Ju#e 19th5
A- I !o#+t 6eleve so-
@- :ou 4ea# you !o#+t 6eleve that you+! eve# see# h45
A- )hat+s $orre$t-
@- A#! o# Ju#e 19th1 /as there a "tt#8 that /as 8o#8 to ta2e pla$e5
A- :es-
@- A#! /hat s a >"tt#8>5
A- A "tt#8 s /he# a# artst tres o# ther $ostu4#81 a#! the $ostu4e !es8#er a#! sea4stress "t1
alter the $ostu4e to the per"or4er-
@- 'o you re4e46er a6out /hat t4e t /as that 7$hael $a4e o# the 19th5
A- I 6eleve t /as late-
@- O2ay- So 6allpar25
A- As 6est I $a# re$all1 I 6eleve t /as 9F00 or 9F30 # the eve##8-
@- 'o you 2#o/ a6out /hat t4e he /as suppose! to 6e there5
A- :eah- I# the a"ter#oo#-
@- >a"ter#oo#> s /hat5 2F005 3F005
A- I th#2 I /as 6e#8 8ve# that #"or4ato#1 l2e1 !aly-
@- .y 'r- 7urray5
A- :es- A#! so && 6ut I th#2 ;F00 /as the sort o" hope"ul t4e1 /as the hope"ul t4e1 ;F00-
@- ,as 7$hael && /as he && !o#+t 2#o/ ho/ to say ths && al/ays pu#$tual5
A- No-

@- Are artsts && so4e artsts !o#+t al/ays sho/ up at the t4e they+re suppose! to 6e there5
A- Very "e/-
@- Very "e/- So let+s say " they /ere suppose! to $o4e at 3F001 " they $a4e at ;F001 /oul! that 6e
8oo!5
A- :es-
@- So /oul! you th#2 4ay6e he /as suppose! to 6e there at 2F00 or 3F001 a#! he /oul! 8e#erally
$o4e1 " he !!1 /as ;F005
A- I th#2 the #e/ s$he!ule /as h4 $o4#8 arou#! ;F00-
@- A#! you sa! that 'r- 7urray !aly /oul! 8ve you up!ates a6out /hat the s$he!ule /oul! 6e5
A- I !o#+t /a#t to say >!aly1> 6ut I+4 say#8 I !!#+t al/ays 2#o/ /hat the #e9t !ay /as 8o#8 to 6e or
/hat the hope the #e9t !ay /as 8o#8 to 6e-
@- ,as that har! "or you to /or2 as the !re$tor5
A- :es-
@- A#! s that /hy you /e#t to the h8her&ups at AEG to try to 8et so4e type o" $o#sste#$y o# the
s$he!ule5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- La$2s "ou#!ato#-
Judge: Overrule!-
The #itness: :es-
@- As the !re$tor1 s t 4porta#t to 2#o/ that your people /ll 6e there1 that you $a# /or2 /th the4
a#! !o the /or2 you #ee! to !o5
A- :es-
@- )hese th#8s1 they !o ta2e pra$t$e1 !o#+t they5
A- :es-
@- :ou 0ust !o#+t sho/ up1 a#! all o" a su!!e# you+re 8a4e rea!y1 are you5
A- No-
@- Pra$t$e 4a2es per"e$t5
A- :es-

@- 'o you 6eleve # that5


A- :es-
@- Espe$ally # your "el!5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- So /hat I /oul! l2e to 2#o/1 sr1 s o# ths t4e /he# you sa/ 7$hael1 $oul! you tell us
th#8s that $o#$er#e! you a6out ether hs phys$al or e4oto#al $o#!to#B o2ay5
A- ?e /as $ol!1 shver#8- ?e /as &&
@- I+4 #ot 0ust say#8 spe$"$ally ths !ay1 6ut # ths t4e pero!-
A- Oh1 ths !ay1 I /as tal2#8 a6out- )hs t4e pero!1 I ha!#+t see# h4-
@- ,ell1 you re4e46er 6e#8 as2e! # your !eposto# arou#! ths t4e pero! "ro4 /he# you sa/
h4 6e"ore1 /hat your $o#$er#s /ere o" ho/ he /as !o#85
A- :es-
@- O2ay- ,hat /ere your $o#$er#s5
A- )hat he /as slo/ at 8ro/#8 #to the sho/-
@- Grasp#8 the 4ateral5
A- :es- :es-
@- O2ay- ,hat else5
A- Eh41 I !o#+t re$all /hat else I sa!-
@- ?o/ a6out los#8 /e8ht5 ,as that a $o#$er# you ha!5
A I ha! a $o#$er# a6out t1 yes-
@- ?o/ a6out 6ala#$e ssues5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- '! you #ot$e /hether or #ot hs 6ala#$e /as as pre$se as you+! see# t # the past5
A- It /as a pero! o" t4e /here t /as#+t-
@- )hat /as up as o" Ju#e 19th1 /as#+t t5

A- :eah-
@- ?o/ a6out /hether && !! he ever $o4pla# or #ot $o4pla# o" 6a$2 pa#5
A- :es-
@- >:es1> he !!5
A- :es-
@- ?o/ a6out1 !! he ever see4 that he /as lost or #ot lost5
A- :es-
@- '! he see4 lost5
A- :es1 o# the 19th-
@- '! he see4 para#o!5
A- :es-
@- '! you th#2 that he /as $o44u#$at#8 /th $larty5
A- No- =or part o" the eve##81 #o- ?e 8ot 6etter-
@- No/1 Al" Sa#2ey1 /ho s that5
A- Al" Sa#2ey s && /or2e! /th && Al" Sa#2ey /as a !a#$er # 7$hael+s v!eos S4ooth Cr4#al a#!
.a! a#! a pro"esso#al !a#$er /ho sort o" 8ra!uate! up # the ra#2s a#! /or2e! /th us as l2e a#
asso$ate pro!u$er-
@- '! you have respe$t "or 7s- Sa#2ey5
A- :es-
@- '! you l2e her5
A- I !o-
@- :ou stll && o2ay- Is she a "re#! o" yours5
A- :es-
@- ?ave you 4e#tore! her $areer5
A- :es-
@- 'o you th#2 she s trust/orthy a#! ho#est5

A- :es-
@- '! she se#! you a# e4al # early Ju#e !s$uss#8 her $o#$er#s a6out 7$hael5
A- :es-
@- I /a#t to sho/ you that- I 6eleve t+s # ev!e#$e- ;;C&1<- A#! s al" && s 7s- Sa#2ey && /as 7s-
Sa#2ey at ths t4e the 2#! o" perso# that /oul! e9press $o#$er#s that she 48ht have to you5
A- :es-
@- '! you re$eve ths e4al o# Ju#e ;th "ro4 Al" Sa#2ey5
A- :es-
@- '! you rea! t5
A- Par!o# 4e5
@- '! you rea! t5
A- :es-
@- ,as 7s- Sa#2ey $o#$er#e! a6out 7$hael+s phys$al $o#!to#5
A- At ths po#t I !o#+t 2#o/ " t /as && I !o#+t 2#o/ " t /as phys$al- It 48ht 6e that he /as a6se#t1
6ut " I rea! the e4al1 t 48ht 6e 4ore help"ul-
@- Sure-
A- )ha#2 you- %reve/#8 !o$u4e#t* I rea! t-
@- ,as 7s- Sa#2ey $o#$er#e! a6out 7r- Ja$2so#5
A- :es-
@- '! she share those $o#$er#s /th you5
A- :es-
@- '! you have $o#$er#s at ths t4e5
A- :es-
@- ,ere they s4lar to /hat 7s- Sa#2ey /as tal2#8 a6out5
A- I th#2 they /oul! 6e s4lar1 yes-

@- 'o you re4e46er that 7$hael ha!#+t sho/# up "or rehearsal o# Ju#e 3r!5
A- I !!#+t re4e46er that1 6ut && I 4ea#1 I !o#+t re4e46er that1 6ut t+s very poss6le-
@- O2ay- So you !o#+t 2#o/ o#e /ay or the other5
A- ,hether he sho/e! up o# Ju#e 3r! or #ot5 It+s 6ee# a lo#8 t4e-
@- O2ay- I /a#t you 0ust to assu4e that 7s- Sa#2ey test"e! o# Ju#e 3r!- I /a#t you to assu4e that
7s- Sa#2ey test"e! that she ha! /rtte# ths e4al to you a"ter 7$hael ha! #ot $o4e o# Ju#e 3r!- 'o
you have a#y re$olle$to# that /oul! 6e #$o#sste#t /th that5
A- No-
@- No/1 I /a#t to sho/ you e9h6t 2<;- ,as )ravs Pay#e also e&4al#8 you a6out 7$hael Ja$2so#5
A- :es-
@- A#! )ravs+s role /as $horeo8rapher5
A- :es-
@- A#! you1 o6vously1 ha! serve! # that role 6e"ore5
A- Not /th 7$hael-
@- No- .ut # other pro0e$ts5
A- :es-
@- So you 2#o/ /hat a $horeo8rapher1 o6vously1 !oesB r8ht5
A- :es- I a4 a $horeo8rapher-
@- A8ht- A#! you && /as the $horeo8rapher1 o#e o" ther roles to 2eep tra$2 o" the !a#$ers5
A- :es-
@- 7a2e sure they+re !o#8 o2ay phys$ally a#! e4oto#ally5
A- No- I 4ea#1 #o-
@- So they $oul! $o4e to /or2 a#! 6e a /re$2 phys$ally a#! e4oto#ally1 a#! the $horeo8rapher ha!
#oth#8 they shoul! !o a6out that5
A- No- I /as say#8 the $horeo8rapher s #ot respo#s6le "or ther phys$al or e4oto#al1 6ut && you
2#o/1 !a#$ers are respo#s6le "or the4selves- I" a $horeo8rapher sees so4eth#8 # a !a#$er that he
th#2s or she th#2s s u#healthy1 I+4 sure they /oul! po#t that out-

@- )hey shoul! po#t that out to the !re$torB r8ht5


A- :es-
@- A#! !! 7r- Pay#e ever po#t out th#8s to you a6out 7$hael Ja$2so# that he /as $o#$er#e!
a6out5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- O# Ju#e 13th 7r- Pay#e /rote ths e4al to youB s that r8ht5
A- It says I+4 $$+!-
@- O2ay- )hat 4ea#s you 8ot t5
A- )hat 4ea#s I /as $ope! o# the e4al-
@- 'o you #or4ally rea! e4als that you+re $ope! o#5
A- No- :ou sa! he se#t t to 4e1 a#! I sa! I /as $ope!- I# other /or!s1 I !o#+t 2#o/ that t+s to 4e-
@- I+4 sorry-
A- I+4 0ust try#8 to a#s/er the 3uesto#s "or you1 really-
@- )hat /as a 6a! 3uesto#- '! you re$eve a# e4al "ro4 )ravs Pay#e o# Ju#e 13th a6out 7$hael
Ja$2so#5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- '! you rea! t5
A- ,oul! I5
@- '! you5
A- Oh- :ou 2#o/1 so4et4es I rea! the41 a#! so4et4es I !!#+t- I !o#+t 2#o/ " I rea! ths /he# t
$a4e #-
@- All r8ht- ,ell1 !o you re4e46er that 7$hael ha! ta2e# a s$2 !ay as >!o$tor or!ere! s$2 !ay> o#
Ju#e 13th5
A- I re4e46er that the !o$tor && that there /as so4eth#8 re8ar!#8 the !o$tor /here he sa! 7$hael
/as#+t $o4#8 #- I !!#+t re4e46er t as a >s$2 !ay1> 6ut I re4e46er the !o$tor #ot hav#8 && #ot
allo/#8 7$hael to $o4e # "or a rehearsal-

@- ,ere you $o#$er#e! a6out that at all5

A- :eah-
@- I# "a$t1 /ho !! you report to "ro4 AEG5
A- 7ost o" the t4e1 Paul-
@- Paul Go#8a/are5
A- :es-
@- So " so4eth#8 l2e ths $a4e to your atte#to# that the star /as a8a# #ot $o4#8 to rehearsal1 s
that the type o" th#8 that you /oul! report to the perso# you+re report#8 to5
A- :es-
@- '! you5
A- I !o#+t re$all " I reporte! ths part$ular !ay1 6ut that+s /hat I /oul! !o-
@- O2ay- ,ell1 let 4e see " I $a# re"resh your re$olle$to# /th e9h6t 2<D- Certa#ly1 the proto$ol
/oul! 6e "or you to relay ths o# to 7r- Go#8a/are5
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- La$2s "ou#!ato#-
Mr. Panish: I ha!#+t "#she! the 3uesto#-
Judge: Overrule!- =#sh-
@- )he proto$ol /oul! 6e that ths /oul! 6e so4eth#8 that you /oul! relay o# to 7r- Go#8a/are5 Is
that true or #ot true5
A- :es-
@- )rue5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! # "a$t1 I+4 8o#8 to ha#! you e9h6t 2<D a#! as2 you to ta2e a loo2 at t- %#!$at#8*
a#! /he# you have1 let 4e 2#o/-
A- %reve/#8 !o$u4e#t* yes- Just the "ro#t pa8e- '! you /a#t 4e to rea! all pa8es or 0ust the "ro#t
pa8e at ths t4e5
@- Let+s 0ust start /th the "ro#t pa8e- O2ay- )hs /oul! 6e o# && 7r- Pay#e /rote to you o# the 13th-
A#! o# the 1;th1 you /rote to 7r- Go#8a/areB s that r8ht5
A- :es-

Mr. Panish: Let+s put t up-


@- )he "rst e4al that you /rote1 sr1 /oul! that have 6ee# the o#e at CF29 o# the se$o#! pa8e5 Are
you /th 4e1 7r- Orte8a5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- Is ths a# e4al that you /rote to 7r- Go#8a/are5
A- )he o#e that+s o# the s$ree# r8ht #o/5
@- :es-
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! /hat /as the reaso# "or /rt#8 ths e4al5
A- )hs s a !""ere#t o#e tha# I 0ust rea!-
@- O2ay- I+4 sorry- O# the se$o#! pa8e1 a#! t+s 4y "ault-
A- )he very 6e8###8 o" t su88ests that I+4 /rt#8 6e$ause 7$hael !!#+t sho/ to rehearsal1 a#! he
!!#+t have a 8oo! rehearsal o# =r!ay1 a#! he !!#+t sho/ o# satur!ay-
@- O2ay- So =r!ay /oul! have 6ee# the 12th5
A- :es-
@- O2ay- A#! he ha!#+t 6ee# sho/#8 up 6e"ore that1 ha! he5
A- :ou 2#o/1 I th#2 that t /as r8ht a"ter ths /he# he !!#+t start sho/#8 up at all-
@- ,ell &&
A- I# other /or!s1 the 68 pero! o" t4e /oul! have "ollo/e! ths1 as oppose! to pre$e!#8 t-
@- O2ay- .ut there /ere t4es he /as#+t sho/#8 up 6e"ore ths5
A- :es-
@- All r8ht- So the# the 1<th1 1Dth1 1CthB r8ht5
A- As 6est I $a# re$all1 r8ht-
@- )he 19th s the pro6le4 ssues /e+re 8o#8 to tal2 a6out1 a#! /e tal2e! a6outB r8ht5
A- :es-
@ o2ay- So ths s #o/ the 1;thB r8ht5

A- :es-
@- A#! /hy /ere you /rt#8 ths to 7r- Go#8a/are5
A- )o 8et asssta#$e1 a#! # try#8 to help 7$hael # every /ay poss6le to have /hat he #ee!e! #
or!er to 4a2e rehearsals-
@- O2ay- A#! /he# you as2e! ths 3uesto#F >+ere you aware that ,6*s doctor didn*t er#it hi# to
attend rehearsals yesterday5> :ou /ere try#8 to "#! out " 7r- Go#8a/are 2#e/ that /as happe##8B
s that r8ht5
A- :es-
@- A#! the# you also /a#te! to 2#o/ " Aa#!y && that+s 7r- Phllps && a#! 7r- 'leo s "ra#2 && /ere
they a/are o" thatB r8ht5
A- A8ht-
@- A#! you /ere $o#$er#e! at that t4e a6out hs health $o#!to#5
A- :es-
@- A#! you as2e! 7r- Go#8a/are to have the4 stay o# top o" t5
A- :es-
@- A#! you re$o44e#!e!1 !! you #ot1 a 4eet#8 /th the !o$tor5
A- Not "or 4ysel"-
@- O2ay- ,ell1 you re$o44e#!e! so4e6o!y 4eet /th h45
A- :es-
@- ,ho !! you re$o44e#! 4eet /th the !o$tor5
A- O#e o" the4 4eet /th the !o$tor-
@- Go#8a/are or Phllps5
A- :eah-
@- '! you 2#o/ /hether they ha! 6ee# 4eet#8 /th the !o$tor5
A- Or 'leo- O#e o" those people-
@ ,ell1 !! you se#! ths e4al to 7r- 'leo5

A- No-
@- ,ho !! you se#! t to5
A- )o 7r- Go#8a/are-
@- O2ay- .e$ause that+s /ho you reporte! to5
A- :es-
@- A#! ever && str2e that- :ou !! lear# su6se3ue#t to ths a6out ths && I+4 8o#8 to use the ter4
>#terve#to#> /th 7$hael Ja$2so# at hs ho4eB s that r8ht5
A- I !o#+t 2#o/ " that /as 6e"ore ths or a"ter that-
@- ,ell1 I th#2 t /as a"ter ths-
A- O2ay-
Mr. Putnam: O60e$to#- Assu4es "a$ts #ot # ev!e#$e1 your ho#or-
Mr. Panish: ,ell1 t+s # ev!e#$e-
Mr. Putnam: No1 t+s #ot-
Ms. Stebbins: It+s a lttle u#$lear-
Mr. Panish: ,ell1 "rst o" all1 the o60e$to# that t+s #ot # ev!e#$e s /ro#81 6e$ause 7r- Phllps
test"e!-
Judge: ,ell1 perhaps he !!-
Mr. Panish: Let 4e rephrase the 3uesto#1 6ut 7r- Phllps !! test"y a6out t1 a#! I sho/e! hs e4al
/here t re"ers to h4 a#! 7r- Go#8a/are a6out a# #terve#to#- )hat+s #ot 4y ter4B that+s ther ter4-
Judge: ,as#+t t the !ate you /ere o60e$t#8 to5
Mr. Putnam: E9a$tly- ?e sa! he !!#+t 2#o/ the !ate1 /hether t /as 6e"ore or a"ter-
Mr. Panish: No-
Mr. Putnam: :es-
Mr. Panish: No-
Judge: 7r- Pa#sh-
Mr. Panish: )hat+s #ot true-

Judge: ,hy !o#+t you rephrase1 6e$ause there 4ay 6e a !spute o# the !ate5
Mr. Panish: All r8ht- =ar e#ou8h-
@- I thou8ht I as2e! you1 sr1 /hether 7r- Phllps use! the ter4 >#terve#to#> to you re8ar!#8 7r-
Ja$2so# at hs ho4e /th 'r- 7urray prese#t- 'o you re4e46er those 3uesto#s5
A- :es1 I re4e46er those 3uesto#s- :ou as2e! the4 earler to!ay-
@- A#! 7r- Phllps tol! you1 !! he #ot1 that there /as so4e type o" #terve#to#1 hs /or!1 /th 7r-
Ja$2so#5
A- I re4e46er rea!#8 that- I !o#+t 2#o/ " I /as tol! that- I re4e46er rea!#8 that-
@- ,here !! you rea! that5
A- I# a# e4al-
@- O2ay- So you re$eve! a# e4al1 the#1 /here t /as re"erre!5
A- I+4 #ot sure I re$eve! o#e- I+ve see# o#e-
@- ,ho sho/e! t to you5
A- I !o#+t 2#o/- It $oul! have 6ee# # $ourt or you se#t t to 4e- I !o#+t 2#o/-
@- ,ell1 t has#+t 6ee# s#$e you+ve 6ee# hereB o2ay5
A- No1 t has#+t 6ee# s#$e I+ve 6ee# here-
@- So /hat other $ourt /oul! t have 6ee# sho/# to you5
A- It $oul! have 6ee# at a !eposto# or pretral1 or t $oul! have 6ee# at a tral-
@- All r8ht- =ar e#ou8h- .ut I /a#t to as2 a6out 7r- Phllps+s $o#versato#- '! you lear# a6out a
4eet#8 that 7r- Phllps ha! /th 7r- Ja$2so# a#! 'r- 7urray /here you /ere #ot prese#t5
A- I !o#+t 2#o/ " 7$hael /as there1 6ut I !o re4e46er that there /as a 4eet#81 yes-
@- .et/ee# && I+4 tal2#8 a6out /hat 7r- Phllps tol! youB o2ay5 '! 7r- Phllps tell you that he ha!
8o#e to 7$hael+s house a#! ha! a 4eet#8 /th 'r- 7urray5
A- I !o#+t 2#o/ " he sa! t that /ay- I really !o#+t-
@- ?o/ !! he say t5
A- I th#2 I 48ht have rea! t # a# e4al- I+4 #ot $erta# he sa! t to 4e spe$"$ally- I+4 0ust tell#8
you /hat 4y truth s here-

@- All r8ht- ,hy !o#+t you rea! to us /hat you /rote to 7r- Go#8a/are5
A- ,hat I /rote5 O#ly the yello/ or the e#tre th#85
@- )he /hole th#8-
A- >4aul, I 2ust wanted to re#ind you to get our additional stylist on board as soon as ossible so
she can begin shoing this week. I also #ay require your assistance in utting a few things in lace
for ,6. +e should discuss this in erson as it is ersonal. +ere you aware that ,6*s doctor didn*t
er#it hi# to attend rehearsals yesterday: &re 5andy and 3rank aware of this: 4lease have the#
stay on to of his health situation. +ithout invading ,6*s rivacy, it #ight be a good idea to talk
with his doctor to #ake sure everything ,6 requires is in lace. +ho is resonsible for ,6 getting
roer nourish#ent/vita#ins, theray every day: 4ersonally, I feel he should have a to nutritionist
and hysical theraist working with hi# on a regular basis. "he de#ands on this guy are #entally
and hysically extraordinary. "he show require#ents exhaust our /0 year olds. 4lease don*t
underesti#ate the need to stay on to of this. I*# in >egas for the night, back at the 3oru#
to#orrow afternoon. "hanks, (O->
@- ,as ths your truth /he# you /rote t5
A- :es-
Mr. Panish: ,hat t4e are /e 8o#8 to 6rea21 your ho#or5
Judge: A#other <1 10 4#utes- I 4ea#1 " ths s a 8oo! t4e to e#!1 /e $a# e#! #o/-
Mr. Panish: )hs /oul! 6e 8oo!1 6ut I !o#+t /a#t to hol! a#yo#e up-
Judge: O2ay- 9F;<- I th#2 there /as a 3uesto# "ro4 the 0urors a6out =r!ay- O#e o" our 0urors ha! a
rel8ous hol!ay or so4eth#8 #e$essary "or =r!ay- I thou8ht I ha! 4e#to#e! t to you1 or so4e o" 4y
sta"" 4e#to#e! t to you- 7ay6e /e !!#+t- So that+s /hy =r!ay s o""1 so that+s the reaso#- .ut
to4orro/ t+s 9F;<- O2ay- )ha#2 you- ?ave a 8oo! #8ht-
The #itness: )ha#2 you-
The !ury e$its the courtroom"
Judge: O2ay- :ou #ee! to retur# to4orro/ at 9F;<-
The #itness: :es1 4a+a4-
Judge: O2ay- See you the#-
Mr. Panish: )ha#2 you-
Judge: A#yth#8 to !s$uss5
Mr. Panish: No- .ut $a# I && !! you /a#t to say so4eth#85

Mr. Putnam: O#e th#81 " I 4ay-


Mr. Panish: Go ahea!-
Mr. Putnam: I /as 0ust tol! 6y the /t#ess+s $ou#sel that there /as a# a8ree4e#t 6et/ee# the4 a#!
Pla#t""s+ $ou#sel that he /oul! 6e here "or three !ays a#! that he has to leave to4orro/ eve##8-
No/1 ths s #e/s to us1 a#! o6vously a pro6le4- )hey ha! to!ayB they ha! yester!ayB t appears I !o#+t
2#o/ ho/ lo#8 to4orro/- It loo2s l2e I have a /t#ess that /e+re u#a6le to !o our $ross-
Mr. Boyle: Just to 6e $lear1 t /as#+t a# a8ree4e#t- I /as #"or4e! 6y the /t#ess+s $ou#sel prevously
that he /as 8o#8 to 6e u#avala6le o# thurs!ay- ,e !!#+t 2#o/ there /as 8o#8 to 6e the t/o hal"&!ay
stuato#s- ,e !!#+t 2#o/ that hs && he $oul!#+t start u#tl 4o#!ay a"ter#oo#B /e !!#+t 2#o/ a6out
tues!ay a"ter#oo# o#ly- So /e "8ure! he /oul! $learly 6e "#she! 6e"ore thurs!ay- A#! so t /as 0ust
&& yeah-
Judge: O2ay- So " that /as the u#!ersta#!#81 ho/ 4u$h lo#8er !o you have1 I 8uess1 s the 3uesto#5
Mr. Panish: ,ell1 a "e/ 4ore hours- I 8ot all those e4als to 8et to- I+4 try#8 to 8o
As "ast as I $a#1 6ut I u#!ersta#! && I !!#+t eve# 2#o/1 I 8uess1 that he $oul!#+t $o4e thurs!ay- I+4 #ot
say#8 they !!#+t tell us that- .e$ause I /as $o44u#$at#8 /th 7s- Stro#8 to!ay a6out the /t#esses
"or thurs!ay-
Judge: O2ay- So /hat+s the $o#$er#5 Let+s "#! out && hs la/yer s here1 7r- .oes$h-
Mr. Boesch: )ha#2 you1 your ho#or- I+4 phl 6oes$h- I represe#t 7r- Orte8a- I $o#"r4e! # /rt#8
that he /as && # respo#se to a su6poe#a1 I $o#"r4e! /th 7r- .oyle1 /th /ho4 I ha! 4a#y
!s$usso#s1 that he $o44t to !ates $erta# "or 7r- Orte8a arou#! /h$h he /or2e! hs /or2 s$he!ule1
#$lu!#8 t/o 4oto# p$tures1 a#! a 0o6 # Ch#a1 that re3ure! h4 to leave a"ter /e!#es!ay- ?e+s
8o#8 to 6e 6a$2 # Au8ust- A#! I $o44u#$ate! that to 7r- Put#a4- ?o/ever1 ths /as #ot a late
u#!ersta#!#8- )hs /as arrve! at1 $o#"r4e! # /rt#8 6y 4y o""$e to 7r- .oyle 6y 4e perso#ally1
a#! I spo2e /th 7r- .oyle- So t /as#+t 0ust a late u#!ersta#!#8- )hs /as so4eth#8 that /as #
a8ree4e#t to respo#! to the su6poe#a ths /ay1 a#! && a#!1 6y the /ay1 your ho#or1 ths s the "ourth
t4e /e 4a!e a# a8ree4e#t to $o4e1 a#! ea$h t4e he /as pushe! 6a$2- So he+s 6ee# /at#8 o# hs
/or2 s$he!ule1 a#! that /as the 6ass "or t-
Judge: O2ay- So ho/ lo#8 s your $ross5
Mr. Putnam: I have at least a !ay1 a#! #o/ I+4 tol! there+s several hours- )here+s #o /ay-
Judge: A !ay1 hal" a !ay1 a#! &&
Mr. Panish: ,ell1 hal" a !ay && I 4ea#1 I ha! yester!ay1 t/o hours-
Judge: ?al" a !ay to!ay-
Mr. Panish: ,ell1 yeah1 " you $all t hal" a !ay- So I 4ay6e ha! a !ay- 7ay6e- ?e tol! 4e 6e"ore he
thou8ht he /oul! have a6out a !ay- At least that+s /hat 7s- Stro#8 tol! 4e- I+4 #ot try#8 to $ut 7r-
Put#a4 o""- I $erta#ly u#!ersta#! 7r- .oes$h+s $o#$er#- I !o#+t /a#t to #$o#ve#e#$e 7r- Orte8a at

all- :ou 2#o/1 a#! /e !! try to 8et h4 earler1 6ut the /ay th#8s have 8o#e1 /e have#+t 6ee# a6le to
"t h4 #- ,e thou8ht ths /as a 8oo! t4e "or h4- )h#8s have 8otte# $ha#8e! # the s$he!ul#8 a#!
su$h- A#! I u#!ersta#! $o4pletely 7r- Orte8a s a 6usy perso#1 7r- .oes$h s try#8 to 8et h4 # as
least #$o#ve#e#t as poss6le- A#!1 you 2#o/1 I !o#+t 2#o/ &&
Judge: ,he# !oes he have to start or 8o 6a$2 or /herever &&
Mr. Boesch: ?e has $o#tra$t $o44t4e#ts to 6e # va#$ouver o# thurs!ay1 the# he has && these are
4oto# p$ture $o#tra$t $o44t4e#ts /here he 4a!e $o44t4e#ts to 6e # va#$ouver a#! Ne/ :or2
a#! Ch#a /th #ot eve# a !ay 6a$2 here # LA u#tl Au8ust 1- A#! I a!vse! h4 o# 4ultple
o$$aso#s1 a#! he 2ept postpo##8 the $o#tra$t $o44t4e#ts as 6est he $oul! to 4eet Pla#t""s+
s$he!ule- A#! /he# /e "#ally a8ree! o# these !ates $erta#1 /e $o44u#$ate! a#! 4a!e that
a8ree4e#t # /rt#8 so there /oul!#+t 6e ths ssue o# the !ay 6e"ore-
Mr. Boyle: :our ho#or1 I+4 #ot say#8 a#y o" that s 4slea!#81 6ut 7r- Orte8a /as out o" the $ou#try
a lot !ur#8 ths /hole tral1 a#! /e /ere putt#8 h4 o"" "or /ee2s so he $oul! 6e out o" the $ou#try-
So I thou8ht /e /ere /or2#8 to8ether very /ell a#! a$$o44o!at#8 7r- Orte8a as /ell1 a#! /e !!#+t
2#o/ that ths /ee2 /as 8o#8 to 6e the t/o hal" !ays- 7r- .oes$h ha! a $o44t4e#t o# 4o#!ay
4or##8 a#! $oul!#+t $o4e u#tl the a"ter#oo# /h$h too2 out a $ouple hours-
Mr. Panish: ,e /a#te! to $all h4 7o#!ay 4or##81 a#! 7r- .oes$h as2e! that /e 8o 4o#!ay
a"ter#oo#1 so /e playe! the v!eotape to a$$o44o!ate-
Mr. Boesch: ,ell1 your ho#or1 the #tal !s$usso#s $a4e to us /th the represe#tato# that 7r-
Orte8a /oul! 6e1 at 4ost1 a $ouple hours a#! hal" a !ay- No/ /e+re a "ull !ay /th t/o hal" !ays a#! a
"ull !ay to4orro/- I u#!ersta#! the s$he!ul#8 ssues1 6ut &&
Judge: ,ell1 /hat s the $o44t4e#t that he $a#+t $ha#8e5
Mr. Boesch: ,ell1 he has a 4oto# p$ture $o44t4e#t /th the 's#ey Co4pa#y-
Judge: O2ay-
Mr. Boesch: A#! he has a&&
Judge: ?e $a#+t sho/ up a !ay late or t/o !ays late or &&
Mr. Boesch: ,ell1 #o1 a$tually- )hese are $o44t4e#ts that have 6ee# 4a!e a#! postpo#e! alrea!y-
A#! the pro6le4 that1 you 2#o/1 /e+re "a$#8 s that he s a8ree#8 to $o4e 6a$2 !ur#8 the Pla#t""s+
$ase or the !e"e#se $ase # Au8ust- )here+s #ot a 3uesto# a6out that- ,e+ve $o44u#$ate! to 7r-
Put#a4 that he $oul! $o4e 6a$2 !ur#8 that t4e-
Judge: :ou+re 8o#8 to $all h4 # your $ase5
Mr. Putnam: :eah-
Judge: O2ay-
Mr. Putnam: 7y $o#$er#1 your ho#or &&

Judge: So /hy !o you #ee! && /ell1 o2ay-


Mr. Putnam: 7y $o#$er#1 your ho#or1 s that /e+ve #o/ && ths /ll 6e the thr! t4e that they $all a
/t#ess- )hey say a #u46er o" th#8s that1 # 4y op#o#1 are ta2e# $o4pletely out o" $o#te9t- I+4
ar8u#8 that- A#! there"ore1 I /oul! l2e to 6e a6le to have the opportu#ty to $ross o# those te4s so
they $a# 6e stra8hte#e! out1 as oppose! to let the4 st "or1 l2e 2are# "aye1 e8ht /ee2s1 so 6y the t4e
/e $o4e to $ross the41 I have to re&6r#8 all o" the4 up a#! try to e9pla# /hy they /ere #ot true1 as
oppose! to stt#8 o# the4 "or a #u46er o" /ee2s- )hat+s /hy you usually 8et to $ross a perso# a"ter
they+re $alle!-
Mr. Panish: I 4ea# &&
Judge: :eah1 6ut you+re 8o#8 to $all h4 # your $ase5
Mr. Putnam: No/ I+4 8o#8 to1 yes-
Judge: O2ay- So &&
Mr. Panish: ,hat+s the pro6le45
Judge: ,ell1 you $a# $over all those ssues # your $aseB r8ht5
Mr. Putnam: O2ay- O2ay-
Judge: I 4ea# &&
Mr. Putnam: I !o#+t really have a $ho$e1 your ho#or-
Judge: So you+re 8o#8 to /at u#tl Au8ust 1st to 8et t all $overe!5
Mr. Putnam: I 8uess I have to1 your ho#or-
Mr. Panish: All r8ht-
Judge: All r8ht- ,ell1 /e+ll see /here /e e#! up to4orro/-
Mr. Panish: ,hat t4e are /e suppose! to 6e here to4orro/5
Judge: 9F;<-
Mr. Panish: O2ay-
Judge: All r8ht- )ha#2 you-
Mr. Putnam: )ha#2 you1 your ho#or-
Court ad!ourned until July *+, -+*."

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