Manav Sethi Orals @ DG Shipping 4th Attempt Func 3 Trassi took the orals , previously 2 times he has taken

. So told me to write Tambekars ques for safety.Asked 2 from them , and 2 by himself. 1. 2. 3. 4. Nox SOx regulations. SEEMP EEDI VLCC Deck fire fighting system. Regulations. IG trips

Arun Kumar

dear friends, date: 26.07.13, surveyor: trassi function 4: 1. Draw the graphical representation of windlass motor of hydraulic type ( answer one of our friend posted in the group ) no cross question on this 2. Diagram of man B&w fuel pump and how to check fuel pump lead and cam lead.. diagram : we need to clearly mention the lead "a,b,c", and also "k" procedure: safety pts to tell (step by step), cross question: how to carry out risk assessment? / measuring tool position where to keep?/ and on cam lead: asked how to adjust /move the cam to increase the lead with diagram?. 3. smc engine main bearing removal : cross questions: - draw with diagram where to take clearance? - he look us to ensure we need to remove 2 bearing keeps on smc, meanwhile asked about it on sulzer(where only one keep) - draw the diagram of hydraulic jack along with crosspiece below the webs, (make sure to draw the dial guage measuring clearance) 4. generator engine kept on workshop , what checks to carry on this? he mainly wants to hear abt: serrations checks, when fitting the bottom bearing to ensure that the indent no on both should coincide, abt tightening procedure, here he stopped and asked to draw diagram(drawn the bolt with first tightening to 250 n.m and put mark a, keep angular guage and around 60' other mark on b and tightern to the mark, and then final tightening to 325 n.m(varies for every engine) ,ensuring that markings on the bolt head and bearing seat face(mark a,mark b) should coincide.. , then abt pin bore clearance, this much is more enough for him to put a big tick. functon :6 1. about boiler steam drum internal fittings with diagram(drawn the diagram from practical marine engg volme 2 book by vikram gokhule, no cross question on this. 2. surprisingly he asked mr.pakrashis patent safety question : draw and explain the single pulling hatch cover sealing arrangement, (diagram already friends posted on the group) cross question : about purpose of quick acting cleat, compression bar, rubber seal. 3. diagram of fuel valve, (i have drawn for 4 stroke engine, no cross queston on this,) 4. about the refegerant plant unloader working principle and very particular about diagram (diagram is from abdul hamid book which is easy to draw) 5. asked about type of rudders ? which all places to take clearances in rudder in drydock. need to mention : weardown to draw with trammel guage ie from the top of stock to fixed pt on st,gear and clearance between tiller and ram cross head(top and bottom) and jumpimg clearane. 6. boiler refratory defects? to mention and explain each : spalling, slagging, flame impingement, shrinkage cracking, deep and dry cracks, failure of tubes, falling of refractory to the floor . and that s it. it was my 8 th attempt, and was desperately need to pass due to my long attempts, finally with gods grace, i have cleared class 2. I need to thank my south indian friend parthasarathy mani who have added me in this group long back, and also thanks to sharad vashist, chetan mysore , nishant, shabajz, and Rahul , and finally I have to thank all those group members for helping each others, but please dont mistake me, my sincere request to everyone is please post even if you have not passed, no one is going to ask why you not ansewered? because many people nowadays not posting the oral questions, actually if we post our questions , instead of helping others, in real we get helped by others comments on where we have went wrong/ what to answer, because everyday more than 7 people attending orals, not even 2 posting,, any ways if i have told wrong please forgive me. all the best to the rest of people who have left with function, with my experience, be patience, work hard , your day will come definitely with gods grace. good day friends.

Sudhir Shanbhag 3rd attempt Trasi Dutta... Fn 3 1. Wat r statutory cert n class cert. 2. Chapter 12..all regulations.. Then asked regulation 4., 12 & 14 in detail.. 3. Cross section of bulk carrier n container.. Many cross questions like how DB strenght is obtained, spacing betwn floors n stiffners.. 4. Life boat engine reg. As per solas. Fn 4b 1.Rta fuel pump timing. C/Q..purpose of pressure bush, drawing of all tools used..

After putting dial gauge wer does it rest..ans..push rod.. 2. How thrust is transferd from engine to hull.. Showd him drawing collar n thrust pads at d sides..n showd d direction of oil flow..c/q.. which pad cums in action while moving ahead.. Ans..aft pad tilts while moving ahd. 3.Reefer comp safties.. Draw unloader diag? 4. Func. Of back pr v/v in reefer sys. Fn 5 1. Wat is error operated AVR? Y is it called so.. 2.Mcb safties 3. Esb safties 4. Types of fuse. How will u check hrc fuse.. Fn 6 1.Wat is boiler foot. Cq..y only 1 end fixd othr 3 sliding..How much expansion is allowd..ans 10mm exp is allowd.. 1 side shud b fixed or it induces shear stresses on bolts n also shell may get cracked.. 2. Brng removal of smc.. 2 more questions not able 2 recall..will post later Result..cleared Fn 3 Fn 4b & fn5.. lots of thanks to Mr.Trasi.. n guys of facebook.. Keep posting guys.. ALl D BEST...

Shrinath Naik 23/7 int banerge ext new guy 3,4b,6 fnc3 solas ammend.marpol ammend.drydock checks.co2 calculation.foam calculation. fn4 liner removal. tail shaft allignmnt.types of crank shaft.crank shaft material. action if scavenge fire. 6 metal locking.cavitation.gear pump working.catalytic fines. got 6. srry guys cld not find out his name coz he had cme for the first tym in dg. i even askd peon tey wer also unaware.

Pravin Naik Ext badwal int dutta 22/07/13 Fn3 1. Draw boiler safety valve....n types of safety valves.. 2. 4 ram steering gear n how to convert to 2 ram.. 3. Towing procedure n apparatus for which all ships.. 4. Rudder carrier bearing...lot of questions n din accept the sketch, told to draw of ur ship n not from book... Fn4b n fn 5 1. Indicator diagram n in tat show various defects like, piston ring wear, fuel injector leakage, exh. Vlv leakage... 2. Crankcase inspection 3. Manvering diagram of ur ship....i cud not satisfy him 4. Fuel injector diagram slide vlv type 5. Air starting valve diagram... Gave me fn5 , he is more interested in sketches, will appreciate sketches from manual... Ne ways gudluck for guys appeeparing tomm.

Rahul Pasricha 23/7/2103 all functions ext unknown..only he took the orals result :cleared fn3, 5 func 3 1. solas chapter 11 details?? told about isps code in detail...and the security levels ... 2.ballast water treatment regulations?? told the regulation about the size of ships and when coming into force also told him about the size of the various organisms etc 3 ballast water treatment methods?? 4 how does injecting electric current help in ballast water treatment?? 5. dynamic stability ?? 6. free surface effect??

func 4b 1.The temperature of the refrigerant before and after the expansion valve?? told him that temp before the expansion valve will be little greater than cooling water temperature.and after the exp valve ..will be the saturation temperature ... he said u are partially correct . 2. how do you adjust the expansion valve ? he was not interested in super heat adjustment .dont know what he wanted!!! 3. what is surging ??? many cross ques and turned into my failing question. func 5 1 2 3 4 5 types of starters?? explain soft starter?? what is earth fault ?? on ships what is the system used (insulated neutral and why)?? safeties in circuit breaker??

fun 6 1. checks done in drydock( he wanted only in drydock and nothing which is done in repair yard)?? 2. boiler refractory gone what will you do and how will you repair(no idea)? some more ques which i dont remember right now ....will post later .. only 4 guys appeared for orals today internal ( mr banerjee ) called some new guy for orals ... other known legends didnt come because of excessive rain!!!!

Ravindra Yadav 2nd attempt External:traasi Func 3 &5 Func 3: 1. Fixed fire fighting system for deck on lpg carrier 2. How dcp work as a fire extinguishing medium . 3. Foam fixed fire system regulation . Expansion ratio. 4. Types of keels . 5. Draw bilge keel . 6. Types of floors and draw bracket floor . Func 5: 1. Single phase motor starting , draw n explain . 2. Esb safeties -which chapter of solas , n esb safeties according to solas. 3. Mcb trips . Trying out different trips . 4. Electicity generation on ship . 5. Ac excitation on ship Cleared fun 5.

Shailesh Patil OM NAMO SHIVAY........... 23/07/2013... internal mr.dutta external no one... only mr.dutta took my orals as external din come function 3, 4th attempt started with who all surveyors before....y u failed in previous attempts nd all.. 1.what is floor 2.types of floor draw nd explain 3.define midship 4.types of vibration, what all vibration ship faces, 5.explain annexe vi reg 13,14,15,16,17,18,19.......i told him 13,14,15..he stopped me between and said go ur passed................. finally cleared classs 2, Praveen Kumar 4th Attempt, dg shipping Mr. dutta & Trassi Appeared for fn 3, 4b , & 6. Fn.3 1. Igg trips, location of high gas temp sensor, diagram of Igg. 2. Close up survey 3. MLC, where you find details about MLC, tell me details about MLC. 4. What is CSR. Which chapter of solas does it come? What it covers? 5. Checks on Transom Area before entering a port. Fn. 4b

1. S/B ratio of LMC and SMC engine. 2. Tie rod tightening procedure of LMC engine. 3. Crosshead bearing difference between SMCC & RTA engine. 4. Refer safeties, unloader function with diagram, location of transducer of unloader. 5. RT-FLEX engine reversing. Fn.6 1. Crankcase inspection of auxiliary engine. Sign of blowpast inside crankcase. 2. A/E connecting rod speciality. 3. Compressor bursting disc bursts at sea. What actions you will take and how to detect the leakage? 4. what is PEENING? where it is done ? why it is done? 5. M/E crankcase relief v/v testing procedure.

Ankit Malik Mr. Datta n Mr. Tirrasi 25/07/13 Function 3 1) co2 calculation. 2) types of bulkhead. 3) bulkhead stool. 4) close up servay. 5) solar chapter -12. result;- cleared class 2

arpreet Singh Bains 16-7-13 3rd attmpt EXTERNAL--- MR JYOTINDRA TIRAASSI FUNCTION 3 AND 5 What ships have u done....!!!...crude oil n product tanker.....OK who was ur previous surveyor.....i said YOU Sir....he asked both the times i smiled and said yes...he also gave a smile and said OK THEN WRITE DWN THE PREVIOUS QUES. I wrote only 3-3 ques each which i knew that tirrassi cant doubt or cross question....he said 2 attmpts and only this u remebr...i said yes 1.HAZARDS OF CRUDE OIL. 2.CHAPTER 11 SOLAS 3.WHATS A CLOSE UP SURVEY 4.HOW MANY TYPES OF BULKHEAD ARE THERE??? 5.BULKHEAD STOOL FUNCTION 5 ALL QUES HE ASKED WHICH I WROTE AND GAVE HIM LIKE LOLLY QUESTNS..ONE WRD TYPES. 1.P/P ROOM LIGHTING SPECIALITY 2.ZENER DIODE WHERE USED ON TANKERS. 3.EMGNCY GEN AND SWITCHBOARD UNDER WHICH REGULN SOLAS??? 4. MCB TRIPS 5. INTRINSICALLY SAFE CIRCUIT Finally said these words " GO U R PASS" I asked "SIR IN BOTH THE FUNCTIONS?" he said "YES" ....as far as i remem...PAR YAKEEN exn45 DEKH K HI HOGA..... RESULT-- DONE WITH CLASS 2

OTHER QUES ASKD BY MR. TIRRASI 1. COPT TRIPS 2. IG TRIPS 3. MCC TO ME CONVERSION....DONE BY WHICH CMPNY 4. FUEL P/P TIMIMG 5 WAT IF STAR DELTA STARTER WALI MOTOR KEEPS ON RUNNING IN STAR AFTER STARTING??? 6.HOW ELECTRICITY PRODUCED ON SHIP

Vaibhav Khetan orals at DGS 19.7.13 by Traasi sir. told me to write down all previous qns and mostly asked the same again.... Fn 5 1. what is synchroscope? working?...how 2 gens are paralled.... 2.phase difference? 3. how is electricity produced onboard? 4. what is earth fault?....how to identify a earth fault? if EF on a 220v m/c...how will u detect fault and rectify it...(got confused a lil bit..he was nt satisfied..) 5. Earthed neutral and insulated systems? Fn. 6 1) if a compressor bursting disc bursts at sea...what actions u will take? he is interested in hearing tht after stopping and removing cooler...u will bring it to workshop and remove the tube stack from cooler....then immerse it in water with one end of the tubes plugged....and then blow air thru each tube from other end of stack and thus identify which tube is leaking by observing bubbles coming out of leaky tube..... 2) how to measure bumping clearance? 3)what is peening? there were a couple of qns more...i cant remember right nw...will post if i recollect... result:passed both fns... thanks to brothers of this group and the good old tolani gang! note: Trassi sir is asking mostly the same qns to everyone for past 3 days....so guys prepare accordingly...good luck to all bros appearing for

Sandeepkumar Chauhan 17-07-2013 INt banerjee ext trassi he told me to write all previous questions. written all those i remembered. didn't ask anything from that just confirmed and asked me whether i had got answers for all of that. func-3 PETROLEUM HAZARDS ON PRODUCT CARRIER. TYPES OF FLOOR. FUNC 4 STROKE BORE RATIO OF SMC AND MCC. told both r same and he didn't accepted. LAMBDA CONTROLLER DIAG. LOT'S OF CROSS Q ON THAT. WHAT IS ERMATO COUPLING????? FUNC 5 SOFT STARTER. MCB SAFETIES. ESB SAFETIES.WHICH SOLAS CHPT AND REGULATION. FUNC-6 WHAT IS PEPPING OR PEENING . DON'T EXACTLY REMEMBER. PASSED IN FUNC 5. HE WAS NOT IN A MOOD TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT ATLEAST GIVEN ONE. SATISFIED.

Sachin Chaudhari 17 july2013 Fn 4b and 6 Trassi and banerjee 1..Rta n man bnw cross bearing lo diff 2. Scvng fire 3. Uec engine speiciality 4. Keyless propeller skf method 5. Compresor bursting disc burst at sea 6.some coupling..i forgot name 7. Heptane insoulable 8. Shedule 40 n 80 pipe press rating..n use where? 9. Types of threads withrespect to taps available in engine room.. Cleared 4b..

achin Kotian 18.07.2013

@ dgs surveyor bhadwal and dutta 2nd attempt : appearing for function 3,4B nd 6 function 3 : just 2 questions were asked 1.how is propeller fitted to the shaft on ur ship I said I cannot explain abt my ship since I haven't seen the diagram but can tell u as given in book ...

2. main co2 line main valve diagram . only 2 question were asked since my diagram were not upto the mark ...nd my safety writtens is left ..I guess he failed me in fuction 3 function 4b nd 6 1.fuel injector slide valve of main engine 2.boiler safety valve 3.indicator diagrams piston ring leaking 4. loop scavengind and uniflow scavenging wen piston is at tdc 5. on ur ums round one unit of main engine jacket temp goes up and piston cooling outlet goes down ...reason for dat 6. starting air system. 7.fuel p/p of main engine. section view (bosch type) 8.main engine overhaul wat all checks will u carry out . 9.mian engine governor ....if ur ship max speed is 120 rpm nd ur ship rpm goes to 125rpm how will ur governor react . was not satisfied wid my drawing ...reason for him to fail me in 4b cleared function 6

Suresh Giri 17 july

dgs datta and trassi all func. cleared fun 5 fun 3 ship done engine type and sb ratio main hazards on chem tankers panting nd pounding arrangement func4 safeties on reefer system.y belt driven.how comp gets overloaded fun 5 single phasing n how to protect motors mcb trips n how to test , does the gen stop after trip is activated starter types types of fuse n how to remove hrc fuse fun 6 how to start msw pump types of burner

Harmanjeet Singh 17-07-2013 int dutta ext trassi func 3 1.hazards on bulk carrier 2. trips of IG as per imo 3. fixed fire fighting for deck fire fighting on bulk carrier func 4 1. ref plant trips 2. convert mcc engine to me engine 3. lamda controller 4. type of buner func 5 1. navigation light(wire dig, daily checks ) 2. commutator 3. soft starter 4. syncronous motor (self starting ) func 6 1. procedure for making entry in tank of product tanker. 2. starting procedure for sea water pump. (explain with graph curves)

Valmik Bedare oral on 16 july at dg shipping external-bagga , internal-gadakar fun- 3,4b,5,6 fn 3 1 types of ship done 2bulk carrier carring high density cargo, how strenth is given to deck . 3.how many spare fire extigusher should be onbord as per regulation. 4.what all are the test which carried out on lifeboat devit? interval of test? fn 4b 1 -types of engine done

2- as a 2/e how will u do turbocharger water wash? what checks u will carry out before water wash? 3-how rotocap works? function of rotocap?why no rotocap provide to main engine. 4-in water tube boiler in steam drum what all checks u will carrry out. 5-main engine only one unit exhaust temp going high reasons? how will u find out actual fault? fn 5 1.ship is going to drg dock before reach what all checks to be carried out on shore connection box. 2.types of battery onboard? how to check battery capacity? how offen we check batteries? 3-types of light fitting in paint locker? fn 6 1-what are diff types of maintainace system onbord? on which component we carry out breckdown maintainace. 2 -anchor is not lifting up what all checks u will u carry out. 3-in dry dock what all checks carried out on steering gear. 4 -checks to be carried out on deck crane. 5-winch break is not holding what will u check. result- 4b cleared.

Suresh Giri 17-07-2013

DGS int- datta ext- trassi asked to write down previous ques. ships done engine type and S/B ratio all functions cleared fun 5 fun 3 main hazards in chemical tankers panting and pounding arrang. in ships fun 4 safeties on reefer system.why belt is provided.how the comp gets overloaded. fun 5 single phasing and how motors r protected against single phasing mcb trips and how to test them does the gen stop after RP trip types of starters draw ny one types of fuses and draw the hrc fuse extractor fun 6 how to start msw pump. types of burner

Sandeep Srivastav TODAY IT WAS TRASSI FEW QUESTION ASKED WAS 1. CHEMICAL TANKER HAZARDS? 2. TYPES OF KEEL? 3. TYPES OF BURNERS? 4. BILGE KEEP REQUIRMENTS? 5. SAFETY ON AC COMPRESSOR? 6. DIFF MANB&W, SULZER AND MITSUI ENGINES? 7.UNLOADER DAIGRAM AND EXPLAIN? 8. VLCC TANK CAPACITY WING TANK AND FIRE FIGHTING ON DECK AND ENGINE ROOM?

Tanvir Shaikh 11 th july.2013 mr.trassi ..so I don't need to tell the results..I hope..mr dutta 1.what is tlv-twa and tlv-stel. 2.what's the capacity of center tank of a vlcc as per marpol annex 1. 3.how u convert mcc engine to meb engine . 4. Speciality of lighting in pump room 5.intrinsically safe switches. He uses zener doide word throughout ..where r they placed on ship...I told in my ship it was placed in the hydraulic valve room. 6.what are the types of burners on boiler.felt like giving class IV orals again. 7.reefer plant safeties. 8.what's the type of motor used for windlass. 9.transom space He does not even want to even enter engine room One guy answered the type of motor for windlass correctly then asked show difference between hydraulic motor and hydraulic pump.draw windlass.. He was car carrier guy .asked him about cow and questions on pump room.. Also dry docking. He gave answers for function 6 but he passed him in function 5..

Sameer Desai 3/7/13

external ghosh and internal datar( took only by external. fun 3 1. ballast water treatment methds approved??

told chemical substancte treatment , uv treatment, heat treatment he wants more. 2. on big tankers how to avoid free surface effect? told wash bhead, pressing up..c/q how will you press up?? and how will u put wash bhd(drawing) if we do this then steel weight will be more than cargo... want more in deep 3. sqauntling effect?? told as per notes but he wants more he wants to show by diagram how it is actually happens??? 4.what is oil measure? and what are approval for ship from majors??/ dont know i said i did only one tanker s ot aware of this much then he asked 5.what is parametric rolling on container as i did container. dont know. 6. gauging on tanker... told him abt closed open resticted then cq what is in close...said radar transreciver. then askedif it is not working what will u do said ut gauging.. cq how will u do that...as there is chances of fainting of person due to inert gas.... not able to explain him. fun 4b 1. rudder diagram. drew from reeds unbalanced.... accepted 2. fuel pump of MAN and explanation of fuel adjustment.. explain.....said very good 3.indicator diagram for 4 stroke and explanation... drew from aranha........ happy 4.positive displacement pump i told him what i can but he still wanted some more.. 5.thin shell and tri metal brg, explained as per notes......said very good. fun 5 1.avr and explanation.... scr wala dig... lots of cross questions...... have to be thorough 2. dc motor applications on board electric propulsion, capstan in olden days then cq what are advantages..said speed control as i dont know but told by other guy... 3. pole changing motor winch how change the speed? said relation np=120f said ok then cq can we change frequncy?? said yes then asked how?// i said abt condensor but i dont know much abt it as he c ame to know he asked more cq 4.gen started not making voltage reason and ur action? told as per notes satisfied 5. what is thermistor, thyristor? 6.hand gloves insulation? fun 6 1.double bottom drain plug sealing how will u check? 2.in man fuel p/p injection late and ends early reason? 3. winch break test and calculation? 4. l/boat winch break test? how will u load l/boat during test? which side u will perform test, jetty or water? 5. how to test reserve buyancy of buyoncy tank of l/boat? there are some more questions will post later aas couldn,t recollect.. every question there is lot of cross questions and if u give ans as per notes he is not satisfied .......... thank you and best of luck