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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 22:22:05 -0400
From: phiiip Zelikow <pzelikow@9-1 1commission.gov>^?
To: •"• <dmarcus@9-1 1commission.gov>^, "" <ckojm@9-1 1 commission.
Reply-to: ••» <pzelikow@9- 11 commission. gov>^
Subject: FW: Briefings
Chris and Dan —

fly reply to Pat's earlier messagei for the two of you only.
Philip

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From: Philip Zelikow Email to : pzel ikowa^-llcommission- gov3
Sent: Monday-, May IT-, 2DD3 10:D5 PM
To: 'Pat O'Brien'
Cc: 'adam-ciongoliausdo j-gov' i 'Ken Wainstein'
Subject: RE: Briefings

Pat --
1. Your plan for the DSM briefing is a good one- Thanks-

E - The access list for the briefing on current investigative status and
our consequent need to know for any future worki is a separate issue
from access to the past work of the JI or other FBI information on the
DSM issue- This is because if we have people assessing the quality of
intelligence work in particular JTTFs pre-T/11-, they are likely to get
into these issues in the course of evaluating the work in those local
communities- Hence those people might have a need to know with respect
to pre-l/ll activities while they might not have a need to be briefed on
more recent or current investigations-

But I'll keep an open mind and will be glad to discuss this after we've
had a chance to mull over the significance of what we learn on
Wednesday •

3- Re the general briefing on PENTTBOH-, your proposal for 5/21 is fine-

M - Re Ploussaouii here is the dilemma:

a) If he is not part of the 1/11 plot-, then our concern with him and the
EDD1 events in Minneapolis is only systemicn analogous to our interest
in the Phoenix EC episode- The Joint Inquiry appears to have already
done most if not all of the necessary fact finding for that level of
interest -

b)If floussaoui IS part of the T/ll plot-, then we will have to r e c e i v e

the i n f o r m a t i o n r e l e v a n t to that depiction! s u b j e c t to the public
d i s c l o s u r e concerns and court rules we a c k n o w l e d g e d months a g o - If you
p r e f e r to pass along that i n f o r m a t i o n in another setting-, then we can
talk about t h a t -

5- Re mention of info f r o m particular detainees-, a g r e e d - I ' m not sure

you could do that while keeping the briefing at the LES l e v e l - This
issue of d i s c l o s i n g those s p e c i f i c sources also came up tonight in
c o n n e c t i o n with the CIA briefing we are receiving t o m o r r o w - So let me
make our p o s i t i o n c l e a r : we are likely to need a c c e s s to i n f o r m a t i o n
from s p e c i f i c d e t a i n e e s - B u t I agree that these o v e r v i e w briefings-,
which are being given to a large number of s t a f f e r s - , are not the
o c c a s i o n or venue for passing along such s p e c i f i c and s e n s i t i v e d e t a i l s
about particular s o u r c e s -

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Original Message
From: Pat O'Brien [mailto:pobrien331eo.govl
Sent: Monday, May 11, BOD3 b:34 PM
To: pzelikowil-llcommission•gov
Cc: adam-ciongoliSusdoj•govi Ken Uainstein
Subject: Briefings
Phillip:

Good news on dates- Ue can give you the update on the "DSM"
material
Wednesday between 1 and 3pm. Ue plan to base the briefing on the
questions
you and I discussed in our secure call- The briefers w i l l be Pat
D'Amuro, ^___„_^_^^
Mary Galligan and I I I understand you propose to have in
attendance yourself-. Kojmi Marcus-. Lesemann and Jacobson. Assuming
Marcus i
has his clearances! we have nonobjection to him. Please ensure that
your ;
security office has passed hisiclearance. Ue would propose a process by
which we would brief the abovejpeople on Wednesday-, and then, if the
Commission determines that additional work is needed in these areas, we
could re-visit the question o f i a d d i n g additional staff members to the
access i
list- i

The first date I can offer on the overview of the conspiracy is

May El from j
10-15. As requested-, we would; do as much as we could at the law
enforcement i
sensitive l e v e l - We would not be briefing on the specifics of the
Moussaoui case at this time- In addition-, we would not discuss ongoing
operations in this briefing. Our briefing will be informed by current
information-, but we will not be identifying what specific detainees have
said- Ue view this as an initial step to give an overview to provide a
baseline understanding of the conspiracy and activities of the
hijackers- I
Ue may not be in a position toianswer every possible question in this
particular briefing, but will Continue to work with you to get the
Commission the information it needs*

I hope this is helpfulj. Please indicate whether the above plan

is |
agreeable and if Adam concurs,;we will proceed along these lines-
Thanks, Pat- i

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