jobadge: @AJCann @stujohnson suggested tag for unconference on 22 May #uollts ?

AJCann: @jobadge @stujohnson #uollts sounds good.

jobadge: RT @dajbelshaw: Some great ideas for using Twitter when presenting here:
http://bit.ly/xdcOY @stujohnson @ajcann useful for #uollts?
llordllama: @stujohnson Aha! Excellent - looking forward to it #uollts
AJCann: @stujohnson Is http://tinyurl.com/lts2009 #uollts UoL only or open to all?
jobadge: RT @stujohnson: Learning and teaching in the sciences unconference - 8
bookings already since last night http://tinyurl.com/lts2009 #uollts
stujohnson: There is indeed wifi in the George Porter Building #uollts
stujohnson: http://tinyurl.com/lts2009 back by popular demand and x18 bookings
since Monday evening. Best get planning it then #uollts
stujohnson: Wish I'd looked at booking form tracker before worrying input at
#uollts Looks like there'll be plenty of stuff to talk about
AJCann: @stujohnson How many booked for #uollts ?
cjrw: @stujohnson did you count me in or do I need to fill form? #uollts
llordllama: Do we get name badges, that's what I want to know! #uollts
stujohnson: That's the #uollts emails sent
llordllama: Just noticed @stujohnson 's put a screen-cap of the menu for
tomorrow's #uollts on the web site. Now that's one way to lure people in!
jobadge: @stujohnson @llordllama what is a low calorie sarnie when it's at home?
#uollts
stujohnson: @jobadge @llordllama I have no idea what a low calorie sarnie is.
Marmite possibly? #uollts
AJCann: #uollts twitterfall test
jobadge: ok let's try that with the right tag #uollts ooo what does twitterfall
look like then? lots of colours
AJCann: #uollts http://tinyurl.com/pyzwcw
stujohnson: Bit nervous about #uollts this morning http://tinyurl.com/lts2009 Hope
people are in a chatty/ideasy mood
llordllama: In the office, and about ready to sleep. Hope to find some energy by
#uollts
STLock: Have fun all you folks at #uollts
llordllama: Wondering if everything (even the low-cal sarnies) is on a stick today
#uollts
whittybus: @llordllama glad you are going #uollts
stujohnson: Off to shuffle tables round #uollts
stujohnson: Got twitterfall working in GPS18 #uollts
jobadge: @richardbadge hurray glad you are feeling happy. Won't see you at
lunchtime, will be at unconference #uollts
AlexM11: @stujohnson good luck! Looking forward to following and nipping in now
and again on #uollts
stujohnson: We now even have signs and stickers. No expense spared! #uollts
chriscane: Sorry not to be able to make it in person - marking and MSc admissions
stuff to do :-( #uollts
stujohnson: Can someone bring a pen please! #uollts
AJCann: @stujohnson You mean we don't get free pens at #uollts ?
stujohnson: @llordllama wrong tag! #uollts
jobadge: are we starting at 10.30? #uollts @stujohnson seems very organised
iamhelenharrop: RT: @AJCann If you fancy a break this morning, can you do
something for us: http://tinypaste.com/be6eb [tech + assessment event] #uollts
llordllama: You assume I'm talking to you ;) #uollts
iamhelenharrop: @AJCann hi Alan, if there are outputs from #uollts I'm v.
interested in seeing them. No time to follow along alas but will check in later
simonjball: RT: @AJCann If you fancy a break this morning, can you do something
for us: http://tinypaste.com/be6eb [tech + assessment event] #uollts
traceymadden: RT @simonjball: RT: @AJCann If you fancy a break this morning, can
you do something for us: http://tinypaste.com/be6eb #uollts
msars: All ready for #uollts with filtered stream in place in tweetdeck. I should
have consulted menu earlier and brought coordinated lunch.
jobadge: @msars is your lunch high calorie then? we are apparently having low
calorie sarnies :-) #uollts
jobadge: RT @AJCann: If you fancy a break this morning, can you do something for
us: http://tinypaste.com/be6eb #uollts
llordllama: @jobadge On a stick #uollts
dsugden: #uollts Good luck everyone at Science Assessment session
jobadge: right off to unconference #uollts via photocopier and internal mail :-)
there should be two of me by the time I arrive.
ffolliet: @stujohnson #uollts can I get the conference bag please?
llordllama: Where abouts is this room for #uollts exactly then?
stujohnson: @llordllama chemistry building then follow signs - 2nd floor #uollts
stujohnson: Will shortly be excusing myself froM faculty LTC to get to #uollts
llordllama: Ah. The smell do chem building takes me back to being a student
#uollts
planetchemistry: #uollts Greetings from sunny Ulster. Hope the unconf. goes well.
Let me know when the coffee break is so I can check email.
jobadge: got my cup of tea #uollts
jobadge: Anyone listening in can you say hello to the unconference and tell us
where you are? #uollts
AlexM11: Hello #uollts I'm in Brum talking educational games research, but
following closely and awaiting news of low cal sandwiches
llordllama: @jobadge i'm over here! Oh, that's not what you were meaning...
#uollts
traceymadden: Greetings from the Higher Education Academy Physical Sciences Centre
(based in Hull) #uollts
llordllama: @stujohnson Introducing the day #uollts
cjrw: #uollts wot no biscuits?
simonjball: Hello #uollts Following twitterstream from lovely Yorkshire while
writing about inclusion+SL.Hoping for great insights into tech/assessment
jobadge: @stujohnson is starting us off, twitterfall is on big screen in the room
#uollts
whittybus: Hi there #uollts from the office at Clinical :-)
AJCann: What is an unconference? #uollts
laikas: #uollts Hello, greetings from laikas, medical librarian and PhD medical
biology. Searching in between and waiting 4 the unconference 2 start
llordllama: @ajcann Uncomplicated? Unrully? #uollts
cjrw: Backchannel up on screen at #uollts
msars: Hello to all at #uollts from the Life Sci Dept at Imperial College in
London
AJCann: We need 2 screens @ #uollts !
cjrw: Feedforward: keepads for picking topics at next unconference #uollts
llordllama: Now we're working out what topics to discuss #uollts
AJCann: Deciding 1st round of topics for #uollts
llordllama: So not much love for information literacy issues in the room,colour me
not suprised. #uollts
jobadge: Choosing first round of discussion topics #uollts peer assmnt, blackboard
for lab assmnt, keyboard exam, why do we assess
msars: @cjrw Used PRS for selecting topics to discuss in past. Answer was always
"Plagiarism detection" so I stopped using that technique. #uollts
jobadge: On blackboard assessmnt for lab prac's table - Eran is leading and has
brought handouts - wow :-) #uollts
cjrw: Peer assessment was first past post but lost out on single transferable vote
#uollts
AJCann: NOT talking about plagiarism @ #uollts - hurrah!
llordllama: Is it what teachers and students gain? Yeah that sounds good to me
#uollts
stujohnson: I'm in the group on peer assessment (currently) #uollts
stujohnson: Is peer assessment valid/reliable #uollts
stujohnson: That was supposed to be a question #uollts
cjrw: Assessment FOR learning mentioned on at least two tables #uollts
AJCann: Lab reports don't validate student understanding #uollts
jobadge: Yes peer assessment can be reliable and valid and a great learning
experience #uollts
jobadge: Assessment for learning here on lab reports too #uollts
llordllama: Best phrase so far has to be 'enforce learning' #uollts
msars: @jobadge #uollts. We use 3 types of Bb assessmnt for lab pracs. 1. quiz. 2.
autograde excel sheet. (1& 2 postprac) 3. whole prac in Bb.
traceymadden: Worth looking at WebPA (web based peer assessment)
http://twurl.nl/nqamvq #uollts
cjrw: Are we expecting GENUINE original thought from undergrads? #uollts
cjrw: @jobadge counted your table already #uollts
llordllama: What do students get from assessment? Top choice-the degree #uollts
AJCann: Anyone use MCQs for practical assessment? #uollts
jobadge: @msars trying to think about discrimination and feedback #uollts
msars: @cjrw They should be thinking thoughts that are new to them, not
necessarily original in the world. #uollts
planetchemistry: @AJCann #uollts we use MCQ for pre-practical assessment...
students do some assessed work BEFORE they come to lab.
llordllama: We're drawing lots of arrows on the sheet, can't twitter them tho
#uollts
AJCann: @msars How does your Bb quiz work in practicals? #uollts
cjrw: @msars key word there probably thinking not just cut-n-pasting #uollts
stujohnson: Don't forget to move when u want to #uollts
msars: @AJCann We use MCQs post-prac. Open book with lab notes. Good notes and
understanding --> good marks. #uollts
cjrw: Information literacy and assessment - assessed tasks in evaluating source
docs #uollts my sprogs do that in history
msars: @AJCann Whole prac in Bb when using online tools, e.g. bioinformatics. MCQs
and also (more tricky) manually marked short ans Qs. #uollts
llordllama: Kudos to @crjw for the props to information literacy there and key
role in avoiding plagerism #uollts
cjrw: Taking prompt from @stujohnson to swap tables #uollts
AJCann: Turns out several people are using Bb for post-practical assessment
#uollts
AJCann: Does anyone use pre-practical MCQs? #uollts
msars: @cjrw Absolutely. Assessment must allow demonstration of thinking,
analysis, criticism, construction - not just regurgitating facts. #uollts
msars: @AJCann Yes, for some pre-prac work - do calcs in advance, get feedback -->
make up solutions correctly in prac. Not nec summative. #uollts
planetchemistry: @AJCann "Does anyone use pre-practical MCQs?" Me! me! me!..
anyone else?? #uollts
AJCann: @AJCann #uollts we use MCQ for pre-practical assessment... students do
some assessed work BEFORE they come to lab. (via @PlanetChemistry)
stujohnson: Now hearing about a pilot project to let students take exams on a
locked down pc #uollts Anyone any experience
Eingang: @AJCann What is a pre-practical multiple choice question? #uollts
msars: @AJCann And not just MCQs. Use short answers a lot with regex checking.
Also matching Qs e.g. for process planning. #uollts
AJCann: @Eingang Quiz before practical class #uollts
HallyMk1: @AJCann Malcolm Andrew in Pharmaceutical Microbiology at DMU uses a
java-driven practical tutor at Level 2 #uollts
msars: @stujohnson #uollts We use lockdown PCs for students with SEN requirements
to take exams on PCs. These are essay exams --> print out scripts
llordllama: Talking about how assessment and grades from regarded unis and hence
new students being attracted #uollts
planetchemistry: Any ideas on how to give personliased feedback to large lab
classes (70 per class 140 total on modules??) #uollts
stujohnson: Does taking an exam on a pc change the way you think about stuff? Pen
& paper for sketchy thought and keyboard when know #uollts
llordllama: Assessment = only 1-2-1 interaction with staff for many students
#uollts
llordllama: Might not be physical interaction but comments on an essay is personal
to the student #uollts
msars: @stujohnson In sci usually pen and paper needed in addition to PC -
diagrams, maths, chemistry. And then collate all bits tog. #uollts
AJCann: MCQ assessment fits into a blended pattern of assessment #uollts
llordllama: @stujohnson i'm all for keyboards ar my handwriting is terrible!
#uollts
simonjball: @planetchemistry #uollts At MDX they give feedback to 700 Year1's by
dividing marks into 10 groupings & sending standard f'back to each grp
jobadge: Getting ready for Learning and Teaching in the Sciences unconference
http://bit.ly/lZf3g #uollts
planetchemistry: @simonjball sounds good. thanks! #uollts
llordllama: Could we have education without assessment? And if so how would it
work? #uollts
simonjball: @llordllama #uollts surely 'education without assessment' is just
'life'?
psychemedia: @llordllama I think I prefer to view assessment as enrichment...
#uollts
jobadge: If you are here at the science and learning teaching unconference or want
to join the conversation from elsewhere add #uollts to your tweets
traceymadden: Surely in life we self-assess and this is a very valuable skill
(essential for the self-motivated learner) #uollts
msars: @AJCann Definitely agree that online assessment has to be part whole. Esp
if using MCQs. Longer written pieces also imp. #uollts
jobadge: http://bit.ly/3gyn4G this is what we are doing at #uollts
stujohnson: Feedback time #uollts
cjrw: Moved to discuss peer assessment (both meanings of moved) #uollts
jobadge: you can see who else is using twitter at this unconference by using
twitter search http://bit.ly/19dKEn on the tag #uollts
cjrw: Been tweet quiet as mouth active #uollts
llordllama: I vote 5 minutes a table! #uollts
msars: @planetchemistry We use online assessment for 2/3 of pracs. F/back for each
Q + general f/back on whole assessment + pers if req #uollts
AJCann: Stuart summing up first round @ #uollts
cjrw: Share about our experience using Conway et al's peer weighting scheme
#uollts
llordllama: Wondering he we should be doing Mike Reid's Runaround to change tables
shortly? #uollts
jobadge: Assessment gives one to one relationship with student #uollts
ffolliet: u guys realise you tweeted more #eurovision than you have #uollts. ;-)
llordllama: Do we assess too much or too little ~ good topic for the next round.
Maybe also do we use the right kind of assessment. #uollts
msars: @jobadge Is 1-to-1 essential component of assessment? For large classes
automation --> more feedback possible but less personal. #uollts
planetchemistry: @msars that's somewhat similar to us.... the option for personal
feedback is always available if needed.. #uollts
AJCann: Keyboard exams problematic #uollts
AlexM11: Assessment in small bites - it would be good to explore quicker/shorter
assessment methods for modern students #uollts
llordllama: @msars yeah, our group touched on the problems with lack of personal
interaction much as we'd like it to be higher #uollts
msars: @planetchemistry We use autograding script to mark prac reports w/calcs
based on stu results + Bb quizzes too http://twurl.nl/uxwjua #uollts
llordllama: @alexm11 so long as those small bites are onna stick #uollts
planetchemistry: @msars #uollts autograding script looks good. We use the QuizTest
script quite old but it works well. http://www.tesol.net/scripts/QuizTest/
jobadge: Reminder demo of grademark #uollts
Eingang: @AJCann No pre-practical exactly, but I do write some MCQ questions that
are intended to scaffold the exam project activities. #uollts
cjrw: Our use of Conway (now for videos instead) http://tinyurl.com/pcjnub #uollts
llordllama: @whatshtag Unconference at university of Leicester uk discussing
learnin and teaching in the sciences #uollts
jobadge: And finally we are a trending topics #uollts
AlexM11: @llordllama assessment on a stick? nice #uollts
msars: @AlexM11 We do lots of our online prac assessment immediately after prac.
30 min write up. Got to be good! #uollts
cjrw: Also use peer evaluation (formative) in teaching about essay writing
http://tinyurl.com/peeqva #uollts
jobadge: Hearing about peer assesment types: group work, assess contribution,
assess each others work #uollts
AJCann: Discussion in the room currently denting tweets from #uollts
AJCann: Lots of sharing at #uollts
msars: @cjrw #uollts Your student ranking of essays results are like ours -probs
distinguishing best answers. Can't always see beyond facts.
llordllama: Peer review sounds like it brings out some scary feedback #uollts
jobadge: Talking about peer marking being like peer review #uollts
laikas: "#uollts we use QMP (http://bit.ly/HPC7F
? ) in computer-assisted learning (on BB) and in exams. 4 med students. "
msars: @planetchemistry I'll look into this script. Thanks. #uollts
AJCann: @jobadge demonstrating Turnitin Grademark at #uollts - anyone else use
this?
llordllama: Oh good. Lunch has arrived and is now scheduled for 12.30. @DaGooses
can keep their becks out of it! #uollts
stujohnson: Hearing about grademark from @jobadge #uollts
cjrw: @jobadge is demo-ing some tools n tricks in blackboard #uollts
msars: @AJCann Is @jobadge demonstrating Turnitin Grademark for staff marking or
peer marking - or maybe both? We don't use it yet. #uollts
laikas: following #uollts from a distance. Missing discussions -- and Lunch.
Twitter has its limitations. Next time video -unconference?
llordllama: Grade Mark looks interering but i'd want to run it across 2 screens
#uollts
AJCann: Participants at #uollts not too impressed with Turnitin Grademark.
msars: @jobadge Is there any research on students preferences for electronic v.
handwritten feedback on essays? #uollts
msars: @AJCann What were problems perceived with Grademark? I think they've tried
hard with the s/w functionality. #uollts
AJCann: #uollts in danger of degenerating into a Blackboard session
simonjball: @msars #uollts Research by Gomez (was UWE now Plymouth) shows students
much prefer Audio feedback to typed/written -more personal/supportive
llordllama: @ajcann You mean it hasn't already? #uollts
AlexM11: @AJCann pull back from the technology people: focus on assessment as the
core. You can do it! #uollts
wozzza: @AJCann techniques of assessment? #uollts
AlexM11: Actually focus on the students as a core. I correct myself. #uollts
msars: @simonjball Thanks for ref. That would be recorded audio, I suppose, rather
than f2f? #uollts
NextTweetTopics: Be The First twitter #uollts: Good discussion of teaching and
assessment - now on peer asses.. http://tinyurl.com/ps8sdz
simonjball: @msars #uollts yes recorded audio feedback supplied as MP3. students
reassured by tone of voice and not deciphering handwritten comments!
jobadge: Moving tables - new topics: plagiarism here #uollts
llordllama: Work place learning group for me. Not just because it's closer to the
lunch. #uollts
planetchemistry: @simonjball @msars #uollts MP3. We use it for f'back and v.
effectively as f'forward tool for 'quick look' at drafts etc.
stujohnson: Hearing about 'learning-place working' authentic assessment #uollts
traceymadden: Who's going to be the first to mention e-portfolios? #uollts
AJCann: Overassessment topic voted down at #uollts so now discussing group
assessment.
llordllama: My third year of my degree was totally on work placement doing real
drug research for real money. Best bit of my degree i'd say #uollts
stujohnson: Learning-place working sounds fascinating. Anyone any experience?
#uollts
llordllama: Good to hear the uni is working towards plans for more work based
learning. But when do we get to the discussions? #uollts
llordllama: Actually that said this physics project working with esa sounds dead
interesting but that's my inner science geekspeaking #uollts
AJCann: Institue of Engineers insists on some team project wprk for accreditation
#uollts
msars: @stujohnson Do you have "year in industry" degrees at UoL? They are v good
experience for students. #uollts
msars: @simonjball @planetchemistry I like the idea of recording f/back so that
students can refer to it again. Need to look at logistics. #uollts
llordllama: Hey, there's a dairy free plate of sarnies is that for me? #uollts
jobadge: @msars yes a few students take industry sandwich option #uollts
llordllama: @msars yes we do, certainly in chemistry and we're talking about how
much that up skills them #uollts
msars: @llordllama I agree Yini students are upskilled when they return & show
more maturity and motivation. They get what it's all about. #uollts
AJCann: Difficult to design team projects that allow team to work simeltaneously
rather than sequentially #uollts
llordllama: Been sharing aspects of my year working at Glaxo. #uollts
llordllama: @msars I loved it, but showed me that due to allergies and career
aspirations that lab work wasn't for me? Real wake up moment #uollts
planetchemistry: @msars #uollts MP3. Audacity is the way to go for recording
f/back. To mail personalised attachments to a large group I use Pegasus Mail.
llordllama: @ajcann at uni we were placed in Belbin teams so we weren't expected
2all work @ same time. Outcomes were team function not project #uollts
jobadge: Moved away from plagiarism to being open and the changing notion of
scholarship #uollts
jobadge: Sarnies!! #uollts
llordllama: It's onna stick time! #uollts
msars: @llordllama lunchtime = end of formal part of #uollts? If you have formal
at unconf?
davidandrew52: #uollts thank you everyone
nogbad: @AJCann Interested in this - IME teams automatically chunk tasks such that
they are sequential #uollts
NicoleKitta: Difficult to design team projects that allow team to work
simeltaneously rather than sequentially #uollts
NicoleKitta: It's onna stick time! #uollts
msars: @jobadge How many people were at the unconf? It was short and intense!
#uollts
jobadge: @msars about 20 here #uollts
planetchemistry: #uollts thanks to all... great stuff!
llordllama: #uollts What a pleasure to see the phrase 'onna stick' retweeted
msars: @jobadge thanks to all at #uollts for sharing via twitter
llordllama: And @stujohnson is now calling up to order for feedback on the format
#uollts
llordllama: #uollts Session's getting good feedback. Formal discussion paper? Well
I'm going to blog it but he the uni thinks in paper terms... #uollts
llordllama: I think the session needed more of an ice breaker - I certainly didn't
know that many faces! Names on the other hand... #uollts
llordllama: Greatest opponents can be the most evangalising converts. #uollts
llordllama: If you need help running sessions let me know @stujohnson I used to
run these things for a living! #uollts
llordllama: Is TAN still exTANt? #uollts
llordllama: Beyond science events ala TAN getting some props in the room I agree,
get out of our subject corners! #uollts
stujohnson: @llordllama great! Yes please! #uollts
jobadge: http://bit.ly/Yy5dq link to TAN events discussed at unconf #uollts
llordllama: I vote for brown Bag lunch events using using speed networking
techniques #uollts
stujohnson: Thanks to all of you who contributed to #uollts via twitter. Will send
some links out later. http://twitterfall.com/ was v. useful
stujohnson: @ajcann twitter archive just worked a treat. 244 #uollts tweets
straight to csv Thanks @moodledan