THIS MATTER OF CULTURE CHAPTER 14 part2 Now, can we bring about, from the tenderest age, a sense of complete

security, a feeling of being at home, so that in you there is no struggle to be this and no t to be that? Because the moment there is an inward struggle there is conflict, and to overcome that conflict there must be discipline. Whereas, if you are righ tly educated, then everything that you do is an integrated action; there is no c ontradiction and hence no compulsive action. As long as there is no integration there must be discipline, but discipline is destructive because it does not lead to freedom. To be integrated does not demand any form of discipline. That is, if I am d oing what is good, what is intrinsically true, what is really beautiful, doing i t with my whole being, then there is no contradiction in me and I am not merely conforming to something. If what I am doing is totally good, right in itself - n ot right according to some Hindu tradition or communist theory, but timelessly r ight under all circumstances - then I am an integrated human being and have no n eed for discipline. And is it not the function of a school to bring about in you this sense of integrated confidence so that what you are doing is not merely wh at you wish to do, but that which is fundamentally right and good, everlastingly true? you love there is no need for discipline, is there? Love brings its own c reative understanding, therefore there is no resistance, no conflict; but to lov e with such complete integration is possible only when you feel deeply secure, c ompletely at home, especially while you are young. This means, really, that the educator and the student must have abounding confidence in each other, otherwise we shall create a society which will be as ugly and destructive as the present one. If we can understand the significance of completely integrated action in wh ich there is no contradiction, and therefore no need for discipline, then I thin k we shall bring about a totally different kind of culture, a new civilization. But if we merely resist, suppress, then what is suppressed will inevitably rebou nd in other directions and set going various mischievous activities and destruct ive events. So it is very important to understand this whole question of discipline. To me, discipline is something altogether ugly; it is not creative, it is destruct ive. But merely to stop there, with a statement of that kind, may seem to imply that you can do whatever you like. On the contrary, a man who loves does not do whatever he likes. It is love alone that leads to right action. What brings orde r in the world is to love and let love do what it will. Questioner: Why do we hate the poor? Krishnamurti: Do you really hate the poor? I am not condemning you; I am ju st asking, do you really hate the poor? And if you do, why? Is it because you al so may be poor one day, and imagining your own plight then, you reject it? Or is it that you dislike the sordid, dirty, unkempt existence of the poor? Disliking untidiness, disorder, squalor, filth, you say, "I don't want to have anything t o do with the poor." Is that it? But who has created poverty, squalor and disord er in the world? You, your parents, your government - our whole society has crea ted them; because, you see, we have no love in our hearts. We love neither our c hildren nor our neighbours, neither the living nor the dead. We have no love for anything at all. The politicians are not going to eradicate all this misery and ugliness in the world, any more than the religions and the reformers will, beca use they are only concerned with a little patchwork here and there; but if there were love, then all these ugly things would disappear tomorrow. Do you love anything? Do you know what it is to love? You know, when you lo ve something completely, with your whole being, that love is not sentimental, it is not duty, it is not divided as physical or divine. Do you love anyone or any thing with your whole being - your parents, a friend, your dog, a tree? Do you? I am afraid you don't. That is why you have vast spaces in your being in which t here is ugliness, hate, envy. You see, the man who loves has no room for anythin g else. We should really spend our time discussing all this and finding out how

to remove the things that are so cluttering our minds that we cannot love; for i t is only when we love that we can be free and happy. It is only people who are loving, vital, happy, that can create a new world - not the politicians, not the reformers or the few ideological saints. Questioner: You talk about truth goodn ess and integration, which implies that on the other side there is untruth, evil and disintegration. So how can one be true, good and integrated without discipl ine?