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Good afternoon.
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Hi.
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For the record, please state your name for the record.
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In the City of -- ?
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He's my son.
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All right. Ms. Case, I'm going to tax your memory and ask you to go back to 1997. Okay?
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Okay.
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Now, specifically I want to ask you about the evening of the death of Anastasia WitbolsFeugen.
I'm going to ask you some questions about that evening. Okay? Do you recall that evening?
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Yes.
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All right. Can you recall what day of the week it was?
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No.
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Can you recall whether or not you saw Byron Case that evening, the evening that she disappeared?
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Yes.
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In our apartment.
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10 or 11 at night?
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Correct.
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Yes. He would spend the night at his friend's sometimes, but his room was definitely there.
Everything was there.
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Uh-huh.
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Yes or no.
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Yes. Sorry.
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I'm going to ask you some questions about that evening. Okay? Do you recall that evening?
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Yes.
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All right. Can you recall what day of the week it was?
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No.
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Can you recall whether or not you saw Byron Case that evening, the evening that she disappeared?
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Yes.
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In our apartment.
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Correct.
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Yes. He would spend the night at his friend's sometimes, but his room was definitely there.
Everything was there.
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Uh-huh.
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Yes or no.
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Yes. Sorry.
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Was there anything out of the ordinary? Did you observe anything out of the ordinary in Byron's
behavior?
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Did you speak to him when he came in that night about ten or eleven?
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Yeah. We always -- it was just idle chitchat like, "You hungry?" You know. "We're watching a
movie. Do you want to join us" or --
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Byron did mention that she didn't even wait for the car to come to a stop before she jumped out, and
it was just another crazy night with Anastasia and Justin arguing.
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When you had this chitchat with Byron Case, could you smell the odor of alcohol about Mr. Case?
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No.
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No.
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Well, we sat in the living room a little bit, and he went to his room to work on his computer, which
he always did.
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Now -- correct me if I'm wrong -- was it the next day that you heard about the death of Anastasia?
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Yes. Byron called me in the late afternoon the next day and told me, he says, "Mom, Anastasia is
dead."
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Late afternoon?
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Yeah.
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After the death of Anastasia and after the funeral, did you ever see Byron Case and Kelly Moffett
hanging around together?
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Oh, yes.
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When you would see your son and Kelly Moffett hanging around together, how did Kelly behave
toward Byron?
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No.
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Well, I don't know what they did when they were running around outside.
But when they were at the apartment, they would be cooking something, because the stove would
smell and I would go, "Oh, dirty stove," or whatever. But they would listen to music. They did their thing. I
mean, he has his room. He has his music. He has his computer. And if they wanted some refreshments or
something, they would just come out of the room and just help themselves.
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All right. I'm going to switch topics and jump around a little bit. You were at one time married to a
man named Dale Case?
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Yes.
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We were married ten years, but living together for two. So we shared our life for 12 years.
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Yes.
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After the divorce, did you still sometimes speak off and on with Dale Case?
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Yes, because we had joint custody, so we had to talk about our son.
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All right. During the time that you were married to Dale Case, did he have any guns or fire -- I'm
sorry, guns or firearms in the house?
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Never.
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All right. After the divorce, would you sometimes visit the residence of Dale Case?
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Sometimes.
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Even though you were no longer married to him, sometimes at his place?
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After the divorce when you would visit Dale Case's residence, did you ever see any firearms or
guns?
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No, never. That was not part of the decor in the house.
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Did you know Dale Case and your ex-husband to go out hunting with Byron Case?
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Never.
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You may have already answered this. Did you ever see a hunting gun hanging on the wall at Dale's
house?
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No, never.
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Again, I apologize for skipping around so much. Going back to the week that Anastasia was found
murdered, do you recall whether or not Byron had a car at that time?
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No. He always had car problems because he would buy cars that were not reliable, but no, I had his
car towed several days before that happened, because it was like, okay, we got to get it into the shop, and
his father and I decided we would help him out again. That's our job as parents, to help your children out
when they need their transportation. So no, I had the car towed.
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Was the -- let me ask this way: Do you know whether or not the car was still in the shop at the time
of Anastasia's murder?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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You remember?
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Do you remember what date the car finally came out of the shop?
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No. I couldn't tell you what day that was offhand. But I mean, I've got it written down. I keep
journals, travel journals, so I've got it written down.
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Do you remember off the top of your head what date you have in the journal?
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Pardon me?
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Can you remember, as you sit here, what date you had written down in the journal as the day you
got the car out of the shop?
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No, I don't, unless I would look into it.
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Let me ask you about the week of June 5th of 2001. Again, I know I'm shifting topics on you, but do
you recall anything unusual happening within your family the week of June 5th 2001? Anything about
Byron's health in particular?
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Well, Byron, he was sick. He just wanted to sleep. And I was like, "Well, can I do anything for you?
You need to go to a doctor." And he just wanted to sleep. So I was like, okay, you know. Somebody is sick.
Just let them sleep. And I would call him from work to make sure he would eat something or something,
but he didn't answer the phone. He was just sleeping.
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All right. Can you recall how long he had been sick?
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Well, I came down on that Friday, and he was sick through until he got arrested, because he had to
take his antibiotics. And he was arrested and then they had to put him on antibiotics in the detention center.
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Yeah.
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Oh. I'm sorry.
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Oh, well, he came home, and he said "I'm just not feeling good."
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Do you remember anything in particular about how he even got home that night?
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No. A friend dropped him off. But I was not at the door looking out to see who the friend was or
anything. But he had gotten a ride home.
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When he did go to the doctor, can you remember what his illness was?
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I'm sorry?
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All right. You mentioned the date of Byron's arrest. Do you disagree that was June 11th of 2001?
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Do I disagree?
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After Byron was arrested, did you ever receive any phone calls from Ms. Kelly Moffett?
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Yes.
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Can you remember when that was in relation to the date of the arrest, June 11th?
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July 19th.
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Yeah.
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She woke me up, first of all, and just took me by total surprise, and I --
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Correct.
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So did you know at that time she was a witness against Byron Case --
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No.
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I'm sorry. Wait. Did I know -- oh, that means did I know that she is accusing him?
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Yeah. Did you know that on July 19th?
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Yeah.
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She did all the talking and I just listened. And I was reaching around. I was on the phone. I was not
on a cordless phone, but I was on a phone with a cord. And I was looking around to get some writing
utensils, and I just let her talk, and I just started writing staff down real quick whenever she was telling me.
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"This is insane."
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"This is insane."
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She said, "We were in our own little world. You should have been there."
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She said, "I'm an accomplice. I'm an accomplice, but since I told, I got -- they gave me part
immunity. I -- this is tearing me and my sister apart. My family really liked Byron a lot. I should be in jail
with him, and I'm ready to go."
And then she talked about Justin's family. She said Justin's mother was a Martha Stewart type and
his real father was in prison and his stepfather was very wealthy. And then she said that they picked her up
at school and --
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They picked her up at school and they had Jack Daniels in the car. I don't know if it was a fifth or
two-fifths. I wrote down two-fifths. She said she hasn't seen Byron for a few days, but she knew that Justin
had pressured Byron all day.
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No. And then she asked me "May I write to him? May I be in touch with him?"
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Did there appear to be any confusion on whether Kelly thought you even wanted to talk to her?
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Yeah. She said -- like I said, I let her do all the talking. I was doing all the writing. Because to me
that was just, wow, you know, I just needed to write all this down. And she just wanted to keep talking.
And I said, "Kelly, listen, I'm going to have to go." "Don't you want to talk to me?" And I said,
"Well, I have to go to work."
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Did you make any plans in preparation for the next phone call?
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I made plans. I went to three different Radio Shacks. Instead of letting my fingers doing the
walking, I'm driving all over trying to find a recording device, because an attorney had told me to do that.
And so I got the machine, and I called a friend of Byron's who was willing to come over and sit, and we
had a list of questions we were going to ask her.
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Ask Kelly?
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Yeah. We had a whole list, yeah. We were really, really excited because we felt like yes, maybe we
can do something now.
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To help Byron?
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Can you say that one more time?
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She never called back so that was a real disappointment, and I kept a recording device for about a
month and then I returned it.
MR. LANCE:
THE COURT:
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Let's start off with how long had you been divorced from your ex-husband, Dale Case. How long
had you been divorced?
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Uh-huh.
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Yes.
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All right. In 1997, you became aware that Byron started dating Kelly; is that right?
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I don't recall the exact date that he brought her and introduced her to me.
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Huh-uh.
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No?
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No.
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You're doing real well, but if I remind you, it's just to help her out. So you're unaware of when he
started dating. If I suggested to you it was like in the springtime during school graduation or the end of
school, would that sound right at all?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Do you know that he was 18 years old when he started dating Kelly?
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Yeah.
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No.
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Did you know Kelly had just finished the eighth grade when she started dating Byron?
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No. I didn't know all that, no. By looking at her, I didn't know how old she was. She acted like a big
girl more or less.
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And you couldn't tell that she had just graduated the eighth grade?
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No.
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And you're not sure when Byron came and introduced you at some time; is that right?
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Not really.
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Yes.
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Were you aware of how many times Byron would go over to Kelly's house to visit at her family's
house?
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Quite Often.
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She was very demanding of him. She wanted him a lot. So I don't know. I mean, I was not with him.
I was working. So I don't know if he -- yeah, he was there a lot. Let's just say he was there a lot probably.
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So it's fair to say she was quite infatuated with him; is that correct?
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Yeah.
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He must have been. He was very caring with her. Very caring. As a matter of fact, when he
introduced her to me, she went to the bathroom and he came up to me in the kitchen and he said, "Mom,
Kelly's father is an alcoholic, and he beats her."
And I just went (breath intake) because I was thinking, "Why do you need something like this, this
baggage?" But then the other side of me said -- I looked at him and I said, "You know what? She is always
welcome and safe in this house." That was my very first --
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Kelly and I weren't close. She was not -- like some of Byron's friends, Kelly was not into me so
much.
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Would it be fair to say she wasn't a confidant of yours; is that right?
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No.
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So she never shared those thoughts with you at all, did she?
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No.
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Correct.
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And your primary language before you came to America was German; is that right?
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And you can't stay you're as fluent in German today as you were before?
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No.
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Is that right?
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No.
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And it's just because you don't get to use it every day here; is that right?
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Uh-huh.
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Byron, it's good. It's like, well, when we have our conversations, I will correct him creatively, and
he is still learning, but he knows the basics. I mean, we can communicate.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Did you ever know about Justin being in Europe and liking Germany?
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Uh-huh.
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Yes?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Really?
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All right. Did you ever see them talking in German back and forth?
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No. Maybe one night when they came over, we were watching television and Justin was there. It
was probably the only time, and I found him very pleasant. He was very polite. Worldly.
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How often did you have the sense that Byron visited at Justin's house?
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Oh, they were together a lot, because Justin had a nice apartment. And Byron was in the, you know,
it's like you want to move out. You know how they want to move out, but they still want the security of
their nest. And if they have a friend where they can spend the night, they'll stay there, listen to music all
night or whatever. But I guess it was a comfortable place to hang out.
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It's a fair question. How often do you think he spent -- Byron spent the night over at Justin's?
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I have no idea.
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Was it frequently?
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Maybe.
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If he is living with you at this time primarily, why do you have no idea how many times he was
spending the night with Justin?
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Because I would go to bed early and when I wake up, he would be there or he wouldn't be there.
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Do you have a sense of how many times he wouldn't there when you woke up?
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Are you aware of a period of time, oh, let's say in spring or early summer of '97 when Byron was
gone an entire week spending the week at Justin's?
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Yeah. I'm sure that happened because I would miss him. And every time I would see him, I would
be very happy to see him again.
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Are you aware, if he had spent an entire week away from your house, would you be aware of that?
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Are you aware of any period of time like that when he spent a week away from your house?
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He would always pop in. He would always see me somehow. He would be visiting me at work or
whatever. So it's not that I can say I know that he's been gone a week. I cannot say that.
Q.
Popping in doesn't count. It's a week that he's spending the night away at Justin's house the entire
week; are you aware of that period of time?
MR. LANCE:
THE COURT:
Objection overruled.
BY MR. FRY:
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Are you aware of a period of time when Byron spent an entire week at night at Justin's house?
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Yeah.
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Is that because Byron would be gone so frequently you just didn't even -- couldn't even keep track
of him?
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No. I'm not going to say that he was gone. You know, after the divorce, that's just the way the life
was. He was with his father or he was with me.
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And just going back to his father, you did not visit every day after your divorce; is that correct?
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No, of course not.
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And you were unaware of any friend that might have come over and brought any kind of guns over
to Date's house while you were divorced; is that correct?
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Correct.
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You're not aware and you can't tell this jury there was never a gun in Dale's apartment; is that
correct, for eight years?
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You know, he was my husband. Why would he change to becoming a totally in that sense a person
that would be into guns and -- that just wasn't him. We were anti-guns. We are anti-guns.
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I understand. I want to now ask you some questions about Byron coming home on October 22nd
1997. Do you remember that night; is that correct?
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Uh-huh.
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Do you remember the night before when Byron was home or not?
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Correct.
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Prior to coming here today, did you think that period of time would be important?
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Byron was around me a lot during that time because of his car. He discussed the matter with his
transportation with his father -- with me and then his father, and I was the one that decided to have the car
towed.
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Does that help you remember whether he spent the night before October 22nd at your house or not?
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Did your writings keep track of whether Byron spent the night at that period of time?
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Yeah. Because I would always write down it's nice to see him, and I'm glad he's home.
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Going back to October 22nd, it's your testimony today between ten and eleven o'clock Byron
arrived at your home, your apartment; is that correct?
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Correct.
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And you were up, and he came in and talked to you; is that correct?
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He always comes in and says hello. He was always in a cheerful mood. He came in and he said
hello.
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Well, he was upset that Justin and Anastasia were it again, which I heard frequently, you know.
Either he didn't see anything of them, because they were such lovebirds, or they were at each other's throats
and he just said it's just ridiculous to be around them.
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So he talked a lot about not being with Justin because Justin was with Anastasia; is that correct?
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Now, when he came in to talk to you, he started talking to you immediately about Anastasia; is that
correct?
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Yeah. Well, he was talking, basically, about how his evening went. You know, this is just another
one of those evenings between Anastasia and Justin.
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Was there anything else mentioned about what he had done that whole day before meeting up with
Anastasia?
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No.
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Did he mention anything about what he did the night before at Justin's house?
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No.
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So your recollection, his primary conversation was with you regarding Anastasia; is that correct?
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It was just something on the side just like, oh, you know, which I mean I've heard it before, like
when he would say Anastasia and Justin were arguing and why don't they just break up and get it over with
or whatever. So it was just you know, something he wanted to share.
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He did mention to you that she got angry and had an argument with Justin and that she got out of
the car; is that correct?
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Uh-huh.
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Yes?
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Yes.
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And that he did mention that you mentioned he thought she didn't even wait for the car to stop when
she got out?
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Yeah.
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And --
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I mean, they had a red light I guess coming up and he came to a stop, but the car was not stopped,
and she jumped out.
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Now, did he mention to you what kind of part of town this was in?
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No.
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No.
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No.
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There was nothing to question. It was just so normal. Oh, I'm sorry. That's what I would say.
Because when he did tell me about Anastasia and Justin, "Mom, they're arguing. They're no fun to be
around." It was just like, you know, "I just wish they would stop." I mean, I could tell him about my life,
and he could tell me about his life.
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In telling you this story, did he express any concern at all that she was out at night and that she had
just gotten out of the car in the middle of a bad area at night? Did he express any concern to you about that?
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No.
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Did he tell you at all that Justin had called Anastasia's home and determined that about 9:00, 9:30
that she hadn't even gotten home at that time?
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The phone call that you remember from Kelly, give some kind of time frame, you're aware of
Byron's arrest in June of 2001; is that correct?
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Yes.
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And, in fact, while you hadn't met Mr. Lance, you had had some contact with other lawyers as a
result of that arrest; is that correct?
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Free advice?
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Yeah.
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They were professional. They were professional. I was just reaching out for help, period.
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Well, of course, but they still -- they wanted money, but they would still allow me to call them if I
needed any advice and that was very helpful at the time.
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Yes, ma'am.
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He called you. At some point in time, did you find out what he had been charged with?
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Yes.
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And did you find out at some point in time what the evidence we had against him? Did he ever
discuss that with you?
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There was no evidence.
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Oh, Kelly. Well, yeah, he said Kelly told that did this.
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About what time frame did you hear that Kelly was the witness that said Byron committed this
murder?
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If he was arrested June 11th and the call came July 19th, got any kind of time frame where you
might remember when you learned Kelly was the witness against Byron?
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No. I don't know. I don't know the exact time when I found that out, and I didn't study up on my
notes on that. Maybe I should have. But no, I don't remember.
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When you found out that Kelly was the person saying Byron committed this murder, did you try to
contact her at all?
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Never, no. I mean, you know, when Byron called me that he was arrested, that day I called. That
same -- like right after I hung up. I did call over there, but I got her sister. I said, "Is Kelly there?"
I was just like -- I don't know. I was just in shock. Okay. Now it's coming to me. Okay. This is what
happened. Byron called me and told me. That's why I went to the phone, and I called over there, and Kelly's
sister answered the phone and I said, "Is Kelly there?"
And she said, "She is not here right now, but my mom is here."
And I said, "Well, may I talk to your mom?"
And then they hung up the phone on me, and I was very upset about that. Very upset about that. And
then I cried. And, you know, you don't know what you're going to do next. You just try to contact people.
And I went home that night, and I called an attorney.
And the strange thing was, I tried to call and talk to Ms. Moffett again.
MR. LANCE:
THE COURT:
Sure, sure.
THE WITNESS:
I tried to --
THE COURT:
(Counsel approached the bench and the following proceedings were had:)
MR. LANCE:
Judge, I guess my objection at this point is I'm not sure the relevance or I guess I'm confused on
where we're headed, what the relevance is or how this is all going to tie in.
THE COURT:
Well --
MR. LANCE:
THE COURT:
Well, I think where she is going, I think it is relevant. The question I think that is attempting to be
elicited is at what point in time she became aware of the fact that Kelly was a witness against Byron in
relationship to the time period between the arrest and the July 19th phone call.
MR. FRY:
Correct.
THE COURT:
MR. LANCE:
THE COURT:
MR. LANCE:
THE COURT:
I mean --
MR. LANCE:
THE COURT:
That Is fine.
BY MR. FRY:
Q.
I apologize for the interruption. Can you go ahead and finish your answer, please.
A.
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I believe you were talking about after making the phone call, you contacted a lawyer and you were
distraught?
A.
Yes. I got a hold -- this was -- you know how our telephone sometimes, you call a number and then
you hang up.
And anyway, it was something really strange with the telephone, because I ended up getting Mrs.
Moffett on the line, but then I let her go, because I wanted to talk to the attorney. So they were on the line at
the same time, which was really strange to me, but --
Q.
So somehow there was a second call or was that a continuation of the first call?
A.
Yeah. Because it was exciting that I got both -- got an attorney, and I got Mrs. Moffett on the phone
at the same time, and I thought this is so strange, but then I thought, well, I'm going to let her go and talk to
the attorney. And I've never spoke with them again. But yes, I did call right after Byron called me and said
he was arrested. I was just so dumbfounded. I said, "What is going on?" Because I had their telephone
number.
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Yes.
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And you also got to talk to Kelly's mother for a little while or she got on your phone somehow?
A.
She got onto the phone, and I don't know what she thought, because it was like I had to let her go.
And I spoke real fast, because I wanted to talk to the attorney.
MR. FRY:
THE COURT:
Sure.
MR. FRY:
THE COURT:
MR. LANCE:
I'll try to be brief.
Q.
Mrs. Case, there was a lot of discussion about this conversation you had with Byron the night
Anastasia disappeared. Do you remember those questions?
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Uh-huh.
Q.
Is it possible for you to have a precise recollection of the entire conversation between you and
Byron?
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Can you --
A.
It was brief, no. It was just really brief. Like I said, the idle chitchat. "Hi, it's nice to see you."
Q.
No, no, no. I'm not asking you to repeat it again. Is it possible for you to remember every detail of
that conversation?
A.
Every detail? No. The TV was going, and I mean, I gave them that much attention, you know. I
mean, if he has something to say, I listen.
Q.
All right. While the prosecutor was cross examining you, you mentioned that you keep journals?
A.
Yes.
Q.
And let me ask you this way: Did the journals help you recall that Byron Case's car had broken
down about this time?
A.
Uh-huh.
Q.
A.
Uh-huh.
Q.
A.
Uh-huh.
Q.
A.
Yes.
Q.
When you looked in your journal, did you find a receipt or some kind of documentation that the car
had broken down?
A.
No. I don't have the receipt. I think his father paid for it, because he -- because Byron was
depressed, you know.
When you don't have your car and you want to have a car and you want to get around. But we
decided, okay, we'll pay for it. So.
Q.
When you write in your journals, do you usually write in English or German?
A.
I write in German.
Q.
All right. And do you understand that's why no one asked you to bring your journals today? They're
in German? Nobody here could probably read them anyway?
A.
Q.
A.
Uh-huh.
MR. LANCE:
THE COURT:
MR. FRY:
No recross, Judge.
THE COURT:
THE COURT:
Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, I think that's going to -- I believe that's run the gamut for today, does it
not, Mr. Lance?
MR. LANCE:
Yes.
THE COURT:
Let's talk a little bit about tomorrow and future events if we can. From talking to the lawyers,
nothing is ever cast in concrete, but I think the very strong likelihood is that we will conclude the evidence
tomorrow.
Once the evidence is concluded, the following has to occur. I have to get together the final jury
instructions, which don't think. -- I think in this case will be fairly easy to do. Once I have the jury
instructions prepared, then the attorneys have the opportunity to give to you closing arguments.
Once they finish their closing arguments, then you begin your deliberations. Obviously, the length
of your deliberations is up to you. And also there are sometimes when juries, for example, if there is closing
argument, and they begin their deliberations say late in the afternoon, they have various options.
It can also include deliberating for awhile, going home and then coming back the next day and
resulting deliberations. All that is up to you.
Now, the reason I'm telling you this is I can't tell you that you'll get the case tomorrow, but we might
have the opportunity to get it to you tomorrow. So, if we do that, when you go home and how you do your
deliberations will be largely up to you. I'll give you the choice.
But I think if all of you could be in a position to be flexible tomorrow, because it's possible we
could get this case to you tomorrow afternoon. Everybody understand what I'm saying?
So that way, if your number -- if you wanted to deliberate into the evening, it would be great if you
could be available to do so. By the same token, if you were to begin your deliberations and you want to go
home, you could do that also.
So if you could maintain sort of a flexibility for tomorrow, that would be good. The other possibility
is this: It may well be that, based upon the evidence tomorrow and everything we have got to do, we may
make the decision the best thing to do is to do closing arguments Thursday morning.
But, if you could be in a flexibility mode and sort of be loose tomorrow for these various options, I
think that would be helpful to us all. I wanted to give you a little forewarning of that.
The Court again reminds you of what you were told at the first recess of the Court. Until you retire
to consider your verdict, you must not discuss this case among yourselves or with others or permit anyone
to discuss it in your hearing. You should not form or express any opinion about the case until it is finally
given to you to decide.
Do not read, view, or listen to any newspaper, radio, or television report of the trial.
I would like for you to be here in the jury room shortly before 9. I've got a small little status docket
on my civil cases tomorrow at 8:30, so maybe 9:15 before we get started.
If you could be in the jury room shortly before nine, I would really appreciate it.
With that being said, have a wonderful evening. We'll be in recess. All rise, please. Jury is free to
go.