Correspondence Between 9/11 Commission and Defense Department About Documents

Mike Hurley
From: Bonnie Jenkins

Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 6:00 PM
To: Team 3
Subject: FW: Schultz Report - Terms of Loan Arrangement (FOUO)
FYI
Latest on this dispute.
Bonnie
Original Message
From: Dan Marcus
To: 'Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI'; Bonnie Jenkins; Steve Dunne; Graham Giusti
Cc: Deitz, Robert, Mr, DoD OGC; Aly, Stewart, Mr, DoD OGC; Gainor, Sharon, CPO, DoD OGC;
Lehner, Johnathan, Mr, DoD OGC; Jones, Dawn T, LtCol, OSD-USDI; 'dan.levin@usdoj.gov1;
'Brian.H.Hook@usdoj.gov'; Dalton, William, Mr, DoD OGC; Sweatt, Susan, COL, OSD-USDI;
Eaves, Jennifer, LCDR, OSD-USDI; 'pzelijkow@9-llcommission.gov'; Chris Kojm
Subject: RE: Schultz Report - Terms of Loan Arrangement (FOUO)
Pat -- per an arrangement with Dan Levin that we had made with respect to draft Staff
Statement 5, on Diplomacy, we secure-faxed the drafts of Nos. 6 and 7 with the same
"Subject to Classification Review" notation on each page. I take responsibility for not
having thought through whether, in light of the more sensitive nature of this material and
its likely subsequent distribution by Dan, we should have included specific classification
markings. The Commission and its staff have religiously safeguarded all of the thousands
of documents that have been produced to us over the last year and there is no reason you
should have any concern about lending us copies of the Schultz documents.
Original Message
From: Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI [mailto:Pat.Downs@osd.mil]
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 11:52 AM
To: Bonnie Jenkins; Dan Marcus; Steve Dunne; Graham Giusti
'Brian.H.Hook@usdoj.gov'; Dalton, William, Mr, DoD OGC; Sweatt, Susan, COL, OSD-USDI;
Eaves, Jennifer, LCDR, OSD-USDI; Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI
FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY
Dan, Steve, Bonnie,
I regret to inform you that we are deferring a decision to allow loan arrangements for our
restricted-read-access documents, such as for the Schultz document, as below.
As you probably know by now, we have identified what appears to be sensitive and highly
classified information in Staff Statements #6 and #7. This situation causes us concern.
I am hopeful that through the DoJ we can agree on appropriate security arrangements to
ensure adequate protection of classified information. Once that is done, hopefully in
short order, we would be happy to reconsider any loan arrangements you desire. Pat
Original Message
From: Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:01 PM
To: 'Bonnie Jenkins'; 'dmarcus@9-llcommission.gov'; 'sdunne@9-llcommission.gov'; 'mhurley®
9-llcommission.gov1
Cc: Aly, Stewart, Mr, DoD OGC; Gainor, Sharon, CPO, DoD OGC; Lehner, Johnathan, Mr, DoD
OGC; Jones, Dawn T, LtCol, OSD-USDI; Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI; 'Brian.H.Hook@usdoj.gov'
Bonnie,
Yes, the Schultz report will be included in the Friday delivery. The Schultz document is
being provided to you on a loan basis for up to 30 days. The same groundrules apply to
this document that apply to other restricted-read-access documents. That is, any notes
taken based on the document should not quote portions of the document verbatim; notes
should be properly classified; and no copies of the document, in whole or in part, should
be made. Please call me if you have any questions. Pat
Original Message
From: Bonnie Jenkins [mailto:bjenkins@9-llcommission.gov]
To: Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI
Subject: RE: Unintended Delivery of Read-Access DoD Documents (FOUO)
Yes.
Will you be able to send over the Shuultz piece?
Bonnie
Original Message
To: Bonnie Jenkins; Dan Marcus; Steve Dunne
OGC; Jones, Dawn T, LtCol, OSD-USDI; Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI; 'Brian.H.Hook@usdoj.gov1
Thank you, Bonnie. We are doing a document delivery to the 2100 K St SCIF on Friday. Can
you please get the documents to Diana Campagna by Friday. Pat
Original Message
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:13 PM
Pat,
I have the documents. I will have them ready for pick up Wednesday.
Bonnie
Original Message
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:30 AM
To: Dan Marcus; Steve Dunne
OGC; Jones, Dawn T, LtCol, OSD-USDI; Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI; 'Dan.Levin@usdoj.gov1;
1 Brian.H.HookSusdoj.gov'; Bonnie Jenkins; Mike Hurley
Subject: Unintended Delivery of Read-Access DoD Documents (FOUO)
Dan, Steve,
In mid-January, we faxed a few documents over to the Commission. To the best of my
knowledge, they were materials that the Commission staff needed for the interview of Mr.
Wolfowitz. These materials had just recently been identified. Because time was critical,
the documents did not pass through our normal review process. We have since discovered
that 9 of the approximately 20 pages faxed should have been intended for read-only access
in accordance with DoJ guidelines.
The Bates numbers for the read-access documents are: 65710-65712, 65715-65717 and 65722-
2
65724 (these 3 pages are duplicates of 65715-65717). We will need to arrange for return of
the 9 pages and any copies that the Commission staff may have made. I would like to have
Ms. Gainor, who heads our document processing facility, pick up the materials during her
next
delivery run to your SCIF this week, probably on Wednesday. Can you
please
inform your SCIF managers and appropriate Commission staff to have the the
materials ready.
I regret any inconvenience our oversight may cause you. Many thanks. Pat
This may contain information exempt from mandatory disclosure under the Freedom of
Information Act (FOIA).
Mike Hurley
From: Bonnie Jenkins
To: Philip Zelikow
Cc: Team 3
Subject: FW: Schultz Report - Terms of Loan Arrangement (FOUO)
FYI:
Bonnie
Original Message
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 11:52 AM
To: Bonnie Jenkins; Dan Marcus; Steve Dunne; Graham Giusti
'Brian.H.Hook@usdoj.gov1; Dalton, William, Mr, DoD OGC; Sweatt, Susan, COL, OSD-USDI;
Eaves, Jennifer, LCDR, OSD-USDI; Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI
Dan, Steve, Bonnie,
I regret to inform you that we are deferring a decision to allow loan arrangements for our
restricted-read-access documents, such as for the Schultz document, as below.
As you probably know by now, we have identified what appears to be sensitive and highly
classified information in Staff Statements #6 and #7. This situation causes us concern.
I am hopeful that through the DoJ we can agree on appropriate security arrangements to
ensure adequate protection of classified information. Once that is done, hopefully in
short order, we would be happy to reconsider any loan arrangements you desire. Pat
Original Message
From: Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI
To: 'Bonnie Jenkins1; 'dmarcus@9-llcommission.gov1; !sdunne@9-llcommission.gov1; 'mhurley®
9-llcommission.gov'
OGC; Jones, Dawn T, LtCol, OSD-USDI; Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI; 'Brian.H.Hook@usdoj.gov'
Subject: RE: Shultz Report - Terms of Loan Arrangement (FOUO)
Bonnie,
Yes, the Shultz report will be included in the Friday delivery. The Schultz document is
being provided to you on a loan basis for up to 30 days. The same groundrules apply to
this document that apply to other restricted-read-access documents. That is, any notes
taken based on the document should not quote portions of the document verbatim; notes
should be properly classified; and no copies of the document, in whole or in part, should
be made. Please call me if you have any questions. Pat
Original Message
UNDER SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
5000 DEFENSE PENTAGON
WASHINGTON, DC 2O3O1-5OOO
NOV 6 2003
INTELLIGENCE
MEMORANDUM FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, NATIONAL

COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON
THE UNITED STATES
Dear Phil:
In response to the November 5, 2003 request of Vice Chairman Lee

Hamilton, the Secretary of Defense has asked me to forward to you the following
schedule to comply with the Commission's requests.
NQRAD/NEADS/Department of the Air Force Materials

The NORAD tapes of interest to the Commission contain 46 channels.
NORAD is currently transferring the information on those channels to compact
disks. Those CDs are scheduled to be delivered to the Commission as indicated
below. The schedule is determined by the real-time process by which each 6-hour,
40-minute channel can be recorded onto a CD.
CDs containing:
• 10 channels were delivered November 5, 2003
• 8 channels are scheduled for delivery by close of business November 10,
2003
2003
2003
• 18 channels are scheduled for delivery by close of business November
19, 2003
The Department of the Air Force has assured me that materials responsive to
your request will be delivered to the Commission not later than November 15,
2003. The materials will be delivered earlier if they become available.
Detainee-related Materials
In your October 31, 2003, memo, you laid down a preferred order of
delivery for detainee-related materials. In fact, the accelerated production of
responsive materials will be facilitated by providing materials to you when their
processing—reviews, redactions, excerpts, etc.—has been completed.
• DODIIRs: The first batch of deliveries to the Commission is

scheduled for close of business November 15, 2003. Deliveries are
scheduled to be completed by close of business November 26, 2003.
• MFRs: The first batch of material extracted from the MFRs that is
responsive to your requests is scheduled for close of business
November 19, 2003. Deliveries are scheduled to be completed by
close of business November 30, 2003, with interim batches of
materials delivered earlier if they become available following the
DOD review process. The MFRs are longer in length and more
complex than the IIRs.
• ASPs: In light of the priority the Commission has given to the

URs/MFRs, as the processing of them begins to wind down, resources
will be shifted to processing the Analyst Support Packages and other
materials responsive to your request used to support "reason to
believe" determinations. I believe the processing of these materials
will be expedited by employing staff familiar with the subject matter.
We will provide information derived from these sources that is
responsive to your request, relative to the individuals you have
specified, as it becomes available. I will provide you a production
schedule for that effort by close of business November 14, 2003.
Policy Materials
Policy materials produced in keeping with DOD's procedures—including

reviews and redactions—will be delivered in a sequence beginning with responsive
historical, collateral-classification materials (January 1, 1998 through December
31, 2001), followed by responsive current collateral-classification materials
(January 1, 2002 through November 5, 2003), finishing with responsive materials
that are sensitive compartmented information or part of special-access programs
controlled by DOD (January 1, 1998 through November 5, 2003). Delivery is
scheduled as follows:
NOU-06-2003 17:34 P.04/04
• Historical collateral-classification materials: close of business November

15, 2003
• Current collateral-classification materials: close of business November
22, 2003
• SCI and SAP materials: close of business November 26, 2003.
The delivery of policy materials entails DOJ review before being delivered.
The delivery schedule for those materials, therefore, could be affected by DOJ's
review. We have made arrangements, however, with DOJ to expedite its review of
these materials, and DOJ does not anticipate delay.
I will discuss with you any special handling requirements—for classification

or other reasons—as they emerge. If the schedules above are or can be accelerated
I will inform you. If complications create reason to believe a scheduled delivery
might slip, I will inform you as soon as it comes to my attention.
Throughout DOD, additional staff have been applied to responding to your

requests.
As the Secretary of Defense made clear in his discussion with the Vice
Chairman and Senator Gorton on November 5, 2003, he has instructed all DOD
components to be responsive to the Commission's requests and to proceed as
rapidly as possible to assist the Commission in meeting its deadline.
Stephen A. Cambone
Copy to:
Secretary of Defense
Deputy Secretary of Defense
Secretary of the Air Force
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
General Counsel of the DOD
The Special Assistant to the Secretary of Defense
Director, Joint Staff
Chair, National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
Vice Chair, National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
Senator Gorton
TOTflL P.04
Guardian | US defends role for evangelical Christian Page 1 of 1
US defends role for evangelical Christian

Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Friday October 17, 2003
The Guardian
The Pentagon stepped up to defend the high-level appointment of an evangelical Christian general who has
described America's "war on terror" as a struggle between Judeo-Christian values and Satan.
Lieutenant General William Boykin, a veteran of the elite Delta Force, is to head the hunt for high-profile targets
such as Osama Bin Laden and Mullah Omar as the deputy under secretary of defence for intelligence.
But the appointment became a source of embarrassment to the Bush administration yesterday after details
emerged of the general's sermons to evangelical Christian groups depicting the "war on terror" as a religious
crusade. "We in the army of God, in the house of God, kingdom of God have been raised for such a time as this,"
Gen Boykin told an audience last year, according to an investigation in the Los Angeles Times.
The impression of a Christian holy warrior is reinforced in other speeches quoted by the Los Angeles Times, in
which Gen Boykin likens Islamist radicals to the Ku Klux Klan who do not represent the true faith.
The general delivered some of his sermons in military uniform. At one event he described a standoff with a Somali
warlord in these terms: "I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an
idol."
He also said the George W Bush's presidency was ordained by God. However, President Bush is unlikely to
appreciate the bulk of the general's comments, which defy the administration's claims that the campaign against
terrorism is not a war against Islam.
Yesterday the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, said Gen Boykin was a fine soldier. Although he told
reporters he had not read Gen Boykin's remarks, Mr Rumsfeld said he could not prevent military officials from
making controversial statements.
Muslim groups in the US said yesterday Gen Boykin's comments go even further, reinforcing the notion in the
Arab world that the Bush administration's rhetoric on terror is mere camouflage for a larger project of subduing
Muslim and Arab nations.
Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4776582-103602,00.html 10/17/03
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:16:31 -0400
From: "" <bjenkins@9-11commission.gov>4f
To: "" <pzelikow@9-11 commission.
Cc: "" <mhurley@9-11 commission,
Subject: Action Item for DoD
Philip,
Mike and I had a couple of interesting briefings today on Anti-terrorism and

Force Protection, and the new ASD for Homeland Defense. At the end we sat down
with Pat and other DOD reps and realized we need you to weigh in on a few
things.
1. we were advised that Steve cambone will brief the AQSL to you only. Mike
would like to know if he could be included in that briefing as he was carrying
out some of these operations in Afghanistan and is therefore already aware of
some of these activities.
2. Regarding the ROE brief, they need to know in more detail what you require.
Do you want a briefing on ROES regarding operations in Afghanistan for pre 9-
11, or both pre 9-11 and after 9-11? They would also like to know more
specifics on what you would like to hear on ROES during the brief (while Mike
and I believe we know, we would feel more comfortable if you would provide more
specifics that we can pass on to Pat). I spoke with Karen about your schedule
and she said you are only free on Monday and late Tuesday afternoon. I passed
this information along to them.
3. CENTCOM will do the brief on contingency planning (and what was on the shelf
prior to 9-11). DCS is awaiting to hear from CENTCOM to see if they can do it
by VTC or have someone come here. They prefer to have someone come here to do
the brief. Also, they would prefer not to do this brief next week since they
would like more time to do a more comprehensive brief than they can prepare for
next week, is this suitable for you or do you want something briefed to you
next week before you leave for foreign travel?
Thanks,
Bonnie
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 10:05:42-0400
From: "" <mkara@9-11commission.gov>^
To: "" <team3@9-11commission.gov>4P,"" <team8@9-11commission.gov>4|
Subject: Commissioner Gorelick followup
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Bonnie, et al, I talked to Lorrie this morning re DoD/JCS. She has good
insight and contacts. Attached paper contains essence of the discussion. She
has a nice rolodex, as well
Miles
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 07:04:13-0400
From: "" <bjenkins@9-11commission.gov>4P
To: "" <bjenkins@9-11cornmission.gov>4|
Cc: "" <dhyde@9-11commission.gov>4P,"" <jkephart-roberts@9-11cornrnission.gov>4|,"" <prundlet@9-
11 commission.gov>^,"" <bgrewe@9-11commission.gov><i'',"" <Team3@9-11comrnission.gov>4P
Subject: PC Briefing
Folks,
I hope you all had a relaxing holiday weekend.
I am in the process of planning a posse comitatus briefing for interested

Commission members and Jamie Gorelick (if she wants to attend). While I intend
to invite the DoD specialist, I am also interested in inviting someone who can
give a basic background on PC as an introduction to how DoD is today
functioning in the CT world and the limits of PC. I would like to know if any
of you know of an academic or another specialist who might be able to do the
basic backgrounder on PC.
Thanks,
BJ
Quoting " " <bjenkins@9-llcommission.gov>:
> Folks,
>
> Team 3 is having a very informal gathering with Jamie Gorelick this Wednesday
>
> at 2:00 at 21st. We are going to discuss some of her specific concerns
> regarding DoD preparedness to protect the homeland against terrorism both
> prior
> to 9-11 and today. While the discussion will likely focus on the role of DoD,
> I
> am inviting those of you who have expressed an interest in the area of posse
>
> comitatus.
>
> Best,
>
> Bonnie
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:48:24 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4P
To: "" <bjenkins@9-11commission.gov>4l
Cc: "" <dcampagna@9-11 commission.gov>9
Subject: Re: DOD Docs
Bonnie:
Just wanted to update you regarding DoD production of documents, per your note.
I spoke with Diana. She said that we now have in our possession (here at K
Street) some documents responsive to our paragraphs 10 and 15.
Diana is going through many boxes of recently arrived documents and will log
these in as she works her way through what has been delivered.
Mike
Quoting " " <bjenkins@9-llcommission.gov>:
> Mike,
>
> I looked at the document request list I forwarded to you. After reviewing the
>
> list, I know what is supposed to be at K street. I already have responses to
>
> paragraphs 6 and 11. Please ask Dianna if she has received any documents in
> response to paragraphs 5, 10 and 15. The list says they have been delivered.
>
> The responses to the other paragraphs are still not delivered to K Street
> (according to the list Pat sent). She can begin to check and I can get back
> to
> her on it when I get back.
>
> Best,
>
> Bonnie
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:23:29 -0400
From: "" <bjenkins@9-11commission.gov><ff
To: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>^F
Subject: DOD Docs
Mike,
I looked at the document request list I forwarded to you. After reviewing the
list, I know what is supposed to be at K street. I already have responses to
paragraphs 6 and 11. Please ask Dianna if she has received any documents in
response to paragraphs 5, 10 and 15. The list says they have been delivered.
The responses to the other paragraphs are still not delivered to K Street
(according to the list Pat sent). She can begin to check and I can get back to
her on it when I get back.
Best,
Bonnie
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From: "" <bjenkins@9-11commission.gov>^
To: "" <mhurley@9-11 commission.gov>4?
Subject: Fwd: DoD Status Update - 22 August (FOUO)
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Mike,
Please check with Diana to see if any additional documents from Request #6 has
arrived. I already have the responses to the budget requests (they are in my
office - I think it is paragraphs 6 and 11). Please keep Kevin posted.
B3
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:46:36 -0400
From: "Downs, Pat, MS, OSD-USDI" <Pat.Downs@osd.mil>
Reply-To: "Downs, Pat, MS, OSD-USDI" <Pat.Downs@osd.mil>
Subject: DoD Status update - 22 August (FOUO)
To: "'dmarcus@9-llcommission.gov'" <dmarcus@9-
llcommi ssion.gov>, "'sdunne@9-llcommi ssi on.gov'" <sdunne@9-llcommi ssi on.gov>
Dan, Steve,
Enclosed is courtesy copy of our most recent update on the status of
document and briefing requests.
I will be out of the office from Monday, 25 Aug. thru Thurs., 28 Aug. Ms.
Janet Edghill will fill in for me during this time. She can be reached at
703-614-4665 and is copied on this e-mail. You can also contact Ms. Faith
Corson at 703-614-7671.
Should you have any new requests f9r information or interviews during this
time, please send them to Ms. Edghill with a copy to Col Susan Sweatt and
Ms. Corson. Thanks. Pat
«Document Status - 8-22doj-pmd.doc»
Pat Downs
OUSD(I)
3C-281 Pentagon
703-695-1860
This may contain information exempt from mandatory disclosure under the
Freedom of information Act (FOIA). Exemption(s) may apply.
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9/11 COMMISSION DOCUMENT & BRIEFING REQUESTS
22 August 2003
Document Request #1
ltem# Short Title Status

OSD/CCG Delivered 7/25.
Logs
JCS CAT logs Delivered 7/7. (Included NMJIC intelligence logs (1C
ORCON-release approval obtained 7/2)
JCS CAT logs delivered 7/15.
Air threat Poss. Executive Privilege. Draft transcription
conference call completed 7/11. JCS/NMCC QC review of transcript
completed 7/18. Delivered to OGC/document
processing facility on 7/22. Transcriber revised
transcript based on JCS QC on 7/31. Reviewed by
DoJ 8/1. Under White House review as of 8/6.
JCS RoE Delivered 7/15.
NORAD RoE Delivered 7/7.
JCS DDO logs Delivered 7/15.
NORAD Cmd Delivered 7/7.
Dir logs
NEAPS logs Delivered 6/16.
1st AF logs Delivered 6/16.
DoD After NIMA report delivered 6/3.
Action Reviews AF, Navy, JCS, AT&L/DARPA, WHS/PFPA reports
delivered 7/15.
Navy submitted 110 pages of materials responsive to

1-10 provided by LANTFLT, PACFLT, and NAVEUR.
Delivered 8/8. Navy also delivered 367 pages from
OPNAV N09B (NAVHISTCEN) and BUMED, to
document processing facility on 8/12. Estimated
delivery 8/25.
NORAD reports delivered: 7/25.
Site-R After Action reports delivered 8/8.
Additional JCS item as of 7/31: JCS Historian

timeline/other 9/11 data. Data being compiled.
JFCOM: Received by Joint Staff on 7/29. Need to

confirm delivery.
NSA reports compiled. Access granted to Commission

1
August 25, 2003
staff.
USUHS: Submitted 15 AARs relevant to this request.

Delivered to document processing facility 8/15.
Estimated delivery 8/25.
NORAD re-tasked. Checking for Col Scott/ 1st

AF/CONR materials.
Negative replies: DIA, USMC.

NORAD/FAA Delivered 7/7.
protocols
WSs&WCTF NORAD/LEA Delivered 7/7.
protocols
comms on 9-11
m NORAD/LEA Delivered 7/7.
comms on 9-1 1
JSS radar files Delivered 6/2.
DoD ORG Delivered (various dates in June)
• charts
PwlslliiRlf DoD phone Delivered 6/2.
books
1-18 Joint NSA - Under review by Commission staff (Mr. Scheid)
Intelligence at Ft. Meade. Draft MOU in coordination with
Inquiry Commission.
Materials NRO - One document. "B1 level. To be delivered to
Commission SCIF.
NIMA - Delivered 7/1 1 .
DIA - Approximately 20 binders delivered 7/1 5. 3
boxes identified from DIA as Joint Inquiry material. All
binders have been delivered.
Defensive Initiative Report delivered 8/1 .
August 25, 2003

Document Request #2
ltem# Short Status

Title
Naval Set 1: Master Index of Interviews delivered 7/7.
Historical Set 2: Complete transcripts of 32 interviews of civilian
Center support groups (with release forms) in document processing
9/11 facility.
Holdings Set 3: 50 oral histories, audio and transcripts of GS and
military personnel. Conducted by Navy historians and
reserve detachments. In document processing facility.
Set 4: Remaining Navy digital files: 167 oral histories, audio
only, military and GS personnel. Also, abstracts for all Navy
interviews. Also, some interviewee photos, military and GS
personnel. Also, Army oral histories sent to Naval Historical
Center to date. In document processing facility.
Set 5: OSD, USAF, USMC interviews (in transcript) and other
records resident at Naval Historical Center and on loan. Also,
Navy oral histories available on tape only (to be converted to
digital format beginning 7/24). Also, text from Contemporary
History and Operational Archives. Also, classified (SECRET-
level) digital records (CDs). Estimated delivery to document
processing facility: 8/7.
Met w/Commission staff (Mr. Dunne, Mr. Shaeffer), NHC,

DoD OGC, and OUSD(I) 7/24 - to reach agreement on
interview protocol release. Agreement:
Step 1: Begin processing Navy oral history abstracts for
release to Commission (part of Set 4). Delivered to
Commission 8/1.
Step 2: Schedule meeting of all DoD historians to provide
assistance to Commission staff in prioritizing their research
efforts relative to interviews. Meeting held on 7/31.
Historians agreed to prioritize their organization's oral
histories and will provide status updates to USD(I).
Step 3: Draft LOA provided by Commission (Mr. Dunne) to
USD(I) regarding handling of remaining interview materials.
Accepted by DoD, 7/29.
E-mail reminder to all historians (8/12) -- due date 8/13.

Army and OSD materials expected to be delivered to
document processing facility on 8/15. Other historians
requested additional time due to the fact they are also
reviewing the NHC manuscript. Expected delivery to
document processing facility on 8/18.
August 25, 2003
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8/18-22: Received historian priority lists from NHC, USMC

and OSD. Priority lists and subsequent transcripts will be
ready for Kevin Shaeffer on 8/27 at the document processing
facility. Priority lists will be faxed to Kevin Shaeffer on 8/25.
Draft of NHC Transcript will be delivered to document

processing facility, in CD format, on 9/8. Require quick
turnaround for estimated delivery to Commission by 9/10.
Provided overall status update to Kevin Shaeffer via phone

on 8/22. Will meet with Mr. Shaeffer on 8/27 at document
processing facility - to review his priorities and requested
materials in Set 2 as well as prioritization lists.
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August 25, 2003
Document Request #3
ltem# Short Status

Title
Detainee DIA sent materials responding to original request and first
&» report
info
supplement to document processing facility on 8/6. The
materials have completed DoD review process. Delivered
8/15.
3,2nd DIA delivered second supplement to document processing

Splint facility on 8/15. Under review.
August 25, 2003

Document Request #4
Item Short Title ORG/POC Status

4-1 Sign Events/Phone JCS JCS: Significant event conference tape was
Conf. submitted with Doc Req #1 (Item 3).
Tapes or transcripts
A transcript of conversations within the DDO
office was located and provided 7/28.
Related issue: 9/1 1 NOIWON conference

call. JCS search negative 8/6. CIA checked
- negative 8/6: NOIWONs not recorded by
DIA. CIA checked with WHCA - negative 8/6:
NOIWONS not recorded by WHCA.
8/12 - called Miles Kara to inform him that

NOIWON tapes were not located. He
requests that we also check with NIMA and
NSA as well as getting a list of orgs who
participated in the call. USD(I) re-checking
with NMJIC first.
•Wif! C-130Acft @ NGB/ANG Delivered: 8/8 including crew list and debrief
Andrews AFB on 9- (AF/XOHP reports (mission and Intel)
11 Mr Huddleston * High-priority for Commission staff (Mr. Kara)
/Mr Hurckes)
4-3 NORAD phone NORAD Arrived FEDEX to JCS on 8/20. Sent to
confer on 9-1 1 document processing facility on 8/22.
4-4 Additional 9-1 1 NORAD Arrived FEDEX to JCS on 8/20. Sent to
phone confer document processing facility on 8/22.
4-5 NEAD Transcripts NORAD Arrived FEDEX to JCS on 8/20. Sent to
4-6 NEAD acft wing NORAD NORAD compiling materials.
transcripts
4-7 Air Force Base NORAD NORAD compiling materials.
Responses to
NEAD
4-8a. Pilot Logs NORAD NORAD does not believe such logs exist.
NORAD rechecking. Will provide written
notification/justification.
4-8b. Pilot Logs Re-tasked to Received Follow on request by Miles Kara -
AF/ANG via email on 8/4. Commission is now
August 25, 2003

(AF/XOHP requesting "Pilot names, and current

Mr locations."
Huddleston/
Maj Corgan) AF/XOHP has requested fm ANG. ANG has
not located pilot logs, but obtained additional
(AF/XOHP information that XOH delivered to the
Mr Document Processing Facility 8/14. Other
Huddleston) than pilot names, the documents were more
like those in DoD Request 4, Item 6 (Forms
781, pilot interviews and events logs)
NORAD does not believe such logs exist.

NORAD rechecking. Will provide written
notification/justification.
4-9a. Air Traffic Control AF/XOHP Langley Tower Log delivered to document
Logs Mr Huddleston processing facility 7/22. Need to confirm
/Maj Corgan delivery.
ACC and NGB confirmed ATC logs for
requested bases were destroyed per SOP.
4-9b. Air Traffic Control AF/XOHP Received further amplification from Miles
Logs Mr Huddleston Kara, Commission staff, on 8.4.
/Mr Hurckes "Commission learned at Andrews Tower that
flight strips are held for 15 days unless there
is need to hold them further for investigation.
If someone is telling us that they were
shredded, then we need a piece of paper
explaining why flight strips for 9/11 were not
held and why they were routinely destroyed
even though the SOP allows that."
AF/XOHP requested on 8/5 that ANG see if

they can locate this information. ANG has not
located additional logs.
NORAD rechecking.
NORAD Logs- NORAD Delivered 8/15.
VIGILANT
GUARDIAN
4-11 DoD Exercises JCS Arrived FEDEX to JCS on 8/20. Sent to
4-12 NORAD's NORAD Arrived FEDEX to JCS on 8/20. Sent to
AMALGAM VIRGO document processing facility on 8/22.
01/02 Exercise Estimated delivery 8/25.
4-13 OSD docs on USD(P) Search for documents underway to include
7
August 25, 2003
NORAD Mission electronic data tracking system, as of 7/22.
Re-tasked to broaden search parameters --

based on 7/24 meeting with Commission
staff. No Documents found as of 8/22 -
continuing to search.
itH DPG/CPG re USD(P) Delivered: 7/25.

NORAD
flNMI JSCP re: NORAD JCS Deliveries: 7/28 and 8/8.
JSR re: NORAD
JWCA re: NORAD
4-16 IPL JCS Delivered 8/1 5.
Requirements Rpt
4-17 NORAD Cong. NORAD Delivered 8/1 5.
Testimony
4-18 DoD acft IVO NYC NORAD Per NORAD/NEADS (via Mr Palmer), NEADS
and Wash DC does not have access to the information
required to fulfill task. 84 Radar Acquisition
(AFB Hill) may be able to do data reduction to
determine military aircraft (Mode II) were
flying 150nm from NCR to NYC during the
time period requested. NEADS however
would be unable to correlate the Mode II with
aircraft type and tail #s (i.e. ownership could
not be established).
v^^mms^ 1. JSR radar tapes JCS 1 . Provided to document processing facility on
2. NMCCIogs 7/28.
3. CMOC logs 2. Provided to document processing facility on
4. NEADIogs 7/28.
5. 1stAF/CADR 3. Provided to document processing facility on
logs 8/8.
4. Provided to document processing facility
on 8/8.
on 8/8.
H NRO exercise on 9- NRO Delivered 7/1 5.
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4-21 Pentagon 9-1 1 USD(P) Not in WHS/PFPA files. USD(P) SO/LIC
emergency drill SO/CT search in progress, nothing found to
date.
4-22 DoD medical USD(I) Initially tasked to WHS/PFPA files. Spoke
training scenario Janet Edghill w/Mr. Jester, PFPA, 7/24. Retasked to
DiLorenzo Clinic 8/6. Briefing provided by LT
Avilaon8/12. Delivered to document
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processing facility 8/14. Estimated delivery

8/25.
4-23 LTC Deskins NEAD NORAD Per NORAD/NEADS (via Mr Palmer),
logs positional logs for the Mission Crew
Commander, the Senior Director, and the Air
Surveillance Technician were provided to the
Special Commission 5/21 . Personal logs do
not exist.
4-24 FAA notification to NORAD Arrived FEDEX to JCS on 8/20. Sent to

NORAD on 9-1 1 document processing facility on 8/22.
4-25 NMJIC SDO log JCS Delivered 7/7. (Part of Document Request #1 ,
Item 2)
4-26 NSOC SDO log NSA Possible Executive Privilege issue. In
coordination with DoJ/NSC as of 7/28.
4-27 NIMA imagery logs NIMA Delivered to document processing facility
7/18. Contains some "B" material, to be
handled separately. Non-"B" materials
estimated delivery date: 8/29.
w ANMCC SDO logs JCS DDO and most subordinate position logs are
not available. Logs from CWO and Site-R
personnel are located and were delivered 8/8.
4-29 NEACAP SDO logs JCS Delivered: 8/8 and 8/15.
4.30
•HEP TRANSCOM SDO JCS 6 TRANSCOM Ops Officer logs delivered
logs 8/15.
4-31 ACC SDO log ACC Delivered 7/25.
(AF/XOHP)
4-32 NORAD Reg 55-1 1 NORAD Requested document was superceded
approx 5 years prior to 9/1 1 . Copy will be
provided as well as the CON PLAN in effect
on 9-11. Delivered 8/1 5.
4-33 SECDEF, WHS, USD(P) USD(P) schedules delivered to document
DEPSECDEF, and processing facility 7/18. Estimated delivery:
USD(P) schedules 8/25.
for 9-1 1
•BR NSA data NSA NSA providing Commission staff access to
the information as of 7/30.
•Sim JCS DoD threat JCS Delivered: 7/25.
level
4-36 JCS/DoD Order to JCS Delivered: 7/25.
DEFCON 3
August 25, 2003

Document Request #5

AA Flight 77 ACC Delivered to Document Processing Facility on
(AF/XOHP 7/22. Delivered: 7/25.
Mr Huddleston
/Mr Hurckes)
m Langley
Activity
ACC
(AF/XOHP
Delivered to Document Processing Facility on
7/22. Delivered: 7/25.
Mr Huddleston
/Mr Hurckes)
Hi! Otis AF ACC Delivered to Document Processing Facility on
Activity (AF/XOHP 7/22. Delivered: 7/25.
Mr Huddleston
/Mr Hurckes
National Guard
Bureau
NY Acft ACC Delivered to Document Processing Facility on
• Activity (AF/XOHP
Mr Huddleston
/Mr Hurckes
HBP Overall ACC Delivered to Document Processing Facility on
scenario (AF/XOHP 7/22. Delivered: 7/25.
Mr Huddleston
/Mr Hurckes
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August 25, 2003
Document Request #6
Item Short Title ORG/POC Status/POC

6-1 OSD/JCS UBL and CT JCS/J3&J5 Partial JCS data provided to document
policy briefings and docs USD(P) processing facility on 7/28. 3 x disks
1/1/98-19/20/01 WHS/Larry containing Focal Point material require
Horner special handling and access. OSD and JS
coordinating. 1 classified disk delivered to
Document Processing Facility on 8/22.
USD(P) to compile by 8/15. Distributed to

Policy Pocs primary search underway in
SO/LIC and ISA - 7/22. Located
approximately 408 pages thus far for
delivery to document processing facility on
8/13. Electronic search complete,
individual offices working on hard copy file
searches. Rolling production in progress
as of 8/22.
WHS delivered 33 documents to

document processing facility on 7/23/03.
Three more documents were delivered on
7/31/03. Search completed.
Under review.
6-2 SECDEF/JCS JCS/J3 JCS: 3 documents were located however,
policy/docs on general USD(P) SAP and FP access needs to be
CT policy WHS/ Larry coordinated prior to document delivery. 3
1/1/98-19/20/01 Horner x disks containing Focal Point material
require special handling and access. OSD
and JS coordinating. 1 classified disk
delivered to Document Processing Facility
on 8/22.
USD(P) primary search underway in

SO/LIC and ISA - 7/22. Approximately
254 pages have been located to date and
will be delivered to the document
processing facility on 8/13. Electronic
search complete, individual offices
working on hard copy file searches.
Rolling production in progress as of 8/22.
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August 25, 2003

document processing facility on 7/23. Five
more documents were delivered on 7/31.
Search completed.
8/12: Navy delivered 38 pages of OJAG

memoranda to document processing
facility re: legal authorities in CT field on
8/12. Estimated delivery 8/25.
Under Review.
6-3 SOCOM/CENTCOM or JCS/J3&J5 JCS: GENICOM has requested an
OSD/JCS strategy USD(P) extension until 8/25 to facilitate their
papers WHS/ Larry search. SOCOM initial search did not
Re: JSOC Horner identify any documents but are continuing
1/1/98-12/31/01 to search. J3 has no responsive
documents. SAP review.
USD(P) to compile by 8/15.

Distributed to Policy Pocs primary search
underway in SO/LIC and ISA - 7/22.
Collection in progress; delivery to
document processing facility to start 8/18.
Electronic search complete, individual
offices working on hard copy file searches.
Rolling production in progress as of 8/22.

document processing facility on 7/23/03.
Search completed.
Under Review.
6-4 OSD/JCS papers for JCS/J3 No JCS documents were identified
Pres/VP Transition USD(P) responsive to this request.
Team WHS/ Larry
RE: Terrorist Orgs Horner USD(P) to compiled by 8/15
Approximately 7 pages have been located
thus far. They will be delivered to the
processing facility on 8/13.
WHS searched and found no documents

pertaining to this subject area.
12
August 25, 2003
Under Review.
6-5 OSD/JCS and JCS/J3 JCS has no data to support. CENTCOM
CENTCOM docs USD(P) requests extension until 8/25 to facilitate
RE: Navy Forces WHS/ Larry search.
Horner
Navy tasked to fleet 7/25. Delivered 3
documents to document processing facility
on 8/12. Delivered final responsive
document 8/21.
USD(P) to compile by 8/15

Collection in progress; USD(P) has not
located any documents related to this
subject.

SECDEF Budget USD(C) Delivered to document processing facility
Re:CT 7/18. Delivered: 7/25
1998-2001 Materials:
1. FY2001, FY2002, and FY2003
President's Budget Request for CT
Activities. Prior to FY01, DoD did not
specifically identify CT in the budget
requests.
2. Spreadsheets, briefings, and
documents from September 12, 2001 to
present concerning intent to transfer,
reprogram or seek supplemental funds for
CT.
3. FY 01/02 Emergency Supplemental, FY
02 Supplemental and FY 03 Supplemental
requests to Congress.
6-7 UK meeting info USD(P) USD(P) compiling.

WHS/ Larry
Horner WHS searched and found no documents
6-8 BMD Commission MDA Confirming AT&L delivery to document
report/Annex AT&L processing facility.
Negative reply: MDA
6-9 USD(I) authorities DA&M DA&M delivered 3 documents to the
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August 25, 2003
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Search completed.
wjJilSJi OSD/JCS, DoD IG DoDIG Ten reports compiled 7/1 7
CT/FP Reports and Delivered to the document processing
Audits JCS facility: 7/25.
Joint Staff delivered 13 CDs to document

processing facility on 7/28 (address Force
Protection and Antiterrorism reports and
training). Delivered 8/1 5.
SECDEF corresp. USD(C) Delivered to document processing facility
RE: CT/FP supplemental 7/18. Delivered: 7/25.
funding
6-12 SECDEF/JCS corresp. USD(P) USD(P) Collection in progress; delivery to
ToDCI WHS/ Larry document processing facility to start 8/8.
Horner
WHS delivered 1 to document processing
JCS facility 7/23/03. Search completed.

processing facility on 7/28, which address
Force Protection and Antiterrorism reports
and training. A SAR documents was
identified however, SAP and FP access
needs to be coordinated prior to document
delivery.
Under Review.
6-13 SECDEF/DEPSECDEF USD(P) USD(P) Estimated delivery to document

and DCI meeting WHS/ Larry processing facility: 8/15.
agendas Horner
WHS delivered 4 documents to document
processing facility 7/23. One additional
document delivered on 7/31 . Search
completed.
Under Review.
6-14 SECDEF tasking on CT USD(P) USD(P) Estimated delivery to document
andFP processing facility: 8/15
1/1/98-9/20/01
WHS delivered 2 documents to document
processing facility 7/23. Search
completed.
Under Review.
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m DIA Products on 9-1 1 DIA OLA Delivered 8/1 5.
6-16 COCOM Intel Req. for DIA OLA Delivered to document processing facility
CT and FP 8/5. Expected delivery 8/25.
1/1/98-9/20/01
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Briefing Request #1
Short Title Status

Request
#
NMCC Completed 7/21.
9 Commission Staff, 3 USDI staff, and 1
OGC staff attended.
Included NMJIC tour.
Briefing Request #2
Request Short Title Status

#
1 DoD CT Collection Completed 8/21 .
&HD
statutory/legal
authorities
Briefing Request #3
Short Title Status

Request
#
1 PFPA overview of Completed 7/22.
9-11 reaction 2 Commission Staff attended and 5 USD(I)
staff.
Briefing Request #4

#
1 Criminal Investigation Task Army is Executive Agent for CITF. Completed 8/22.
Force (CITF) use of law
enforcement and
intelligence data in CT work.
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August 25, 2003
Other Briefing Requests

#
Counterterrorism Overview Completed 8/21 .
Background Briefing - in
preparation for Commission
staff visits to GENICOM,
SOCOM, JSOC.
NSA Briefing Request #1

#
NSA CT collection Completed: 7/17.
statutory/legal
authorities &
sharing

#
NSA 2 NSA processes Need to check status with NSA.
and requirement
taskings from 1C.
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:07:16-0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-1 "(commission.gov>^P
To: "" <pzelikow@9-1 "(commission.gov>^
Cc: "" <bjenkins@9-11 commission.gov>9
Subject: Fwd: Additional Detailed Briefs
Philip:
I agree with Bonnie's list (below) of additional briefs we should request from
DoD, following-on to what we learned in the 4-hr general brief yesterday.
I would also suggest adding:
A brief on AQSL (Steve Cambone commented this would be a sensitive one, having
to do with plans re AQ leadership);
A brief on ROEs;
A brief on what Steve Cambone called cpg's related to CT (campaign planning

guidance—this has to do with what commands needed to be planning for the
future, contingency planning, etc.)
Can you think of any others?
Please let Bonnie and I know, and Bonnie will work with Pat Downs to schedule.
Thanks,
Mike
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:29:27 -0400
From: "" <bjenkins@9-llcommission.gov>
Reply-To: "" <bjenkins@9-llcommission.gov>
Subject: Additional Detailed Briefs
To: "" <mhurley@9-llcommission.gov>
Mike,
In looking at the list of available detailed briefs that can be provided by

OSD, I would be interested in the four. Two relate to our focus on DoD and
homeland defense, one relates to the new duties of SOFs in CT, and one on the
Strategic Plan we heard so much about yesterday. The four I recommend
are the following:
1. Creation of ASD (Homeland Defense)

2. NORTHCOM and UCP Changes
3. National Military Strategic Plan for CT
4. SOF Realignment and Resources.
Best,
Bonnie
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:29:27 -0400
From: "" <bjenkins@9-11commission.gov>4|
To: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4f
Cc: "" <pzelikow@9-11commission.gov>4|
Subject: Additional Detailed Briefs
Mike,
In looking at the list of available detailed briefs that can be provided by

OSD, I would be interested in the four. Two relate to our focus on DoD and
homeland defense, one relates to the new duties of SOFs in CT, and one on the
Strategic Plan we heard so much about yesterday. The four I recommend
are the following:
1. Creation of ASD (Homeland Defense)

2. NORTHCOM and UCP Changes
3. National Military Strategic Plan for CT
4. SOF Realignment and Resources.
Best,
Bonnie
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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:57:01 -0400
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To: "" <pzelikow@9-11commission.gov>4|
Cc: "" <skaplan@9-11commission.gov>'S',"" <mcoleman@9-11commission.gov>^
Subject: MFR on Feith Briefing
Philip,
I finished the write-up (MFR) on the stimulating :-) briefing given to us by

U/S Feith on Monday. Please review it and let me know if you have any
comments. You can find it in shared/team3/team3 briefing memos/MFR Briefing by
Undersecretary Feith.
Thanks,
Mike
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CHAIR DOD BRIEFING REQUEST NO.
Lee H. Hamilton
VICE CHAIR The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
Richard Ben-Veniste
requests an orientation and briefing on how the Northern Command is
structured and prepared to conduct operations to deter, prevent and defeat
MaxQeland threats and aggression aimed at the United States and its territories within
Fred F. Fielding the NORTHCOM area of responsibility. The briefing should also include
the following:
Jamie S. Gorelick
Skde Gorton A. How NORTHCOM operations will interact with relevant federal
agencies, such as the DHS, FAA, FBI, TSA, NORAD, and the National
John Lehman
Guard in carrying out its missions; and
Timothy J. Roemer
James R. Thompson
B. Posse comitatus legal constraints in relation to the carrying out of
NORTHCOM missions.
Philip D. Zelikow
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR The requested briefing is for general background purposes only and will
not be a substitute for later interviews the Commission and its staff may
wish to conduct. Please schedule this orientation and briefing at the
earliest possible date.
August xx, 2003 Daniel Marcus

General Counsel
TEL (202) 331-4060

FAX (202) 296-5545
www.9-1 lcommission.gov
Meeting with DoD
Tuesday, August 12, 2003
Steve Cambon
Lt Gen Jerry Boykin
Philip Zelikow
Bonnie Jenkins
Kevin Scheid
Mike Hurley
Tasks
• Pull together JI interviews of DoD people (Shelton, Hamre)
• Work with Gen Boykin to set up foreign travel
• DoD: will organize people to advise us where we should go

Need same input from CIA
Proposing visit to commands got the attention of higher levels of DoD which responded
to find out what we really want, and then prepared a new specific briefing for us.
11 August 2003
Document Request #1
Item # Short Title Status

OSD/CCG Delivered 7/25.
Logs
JCS CAT logs Delivered 7/7. (Included NMJIC intelligence logs (1C
ORCON-release approval obtained 7/2)
JCS CAT logs delivered 7/15.
Air threat Poss. Executive Privilege. Draft transcription
conference call completed 7/11. JCS/NMCC QC review of transcript
completed 7/18. Delivered to OGC/document
processing facility on 7/22. Transcriber revised
transcript based on JCS QC on 7/31. Reviewed by
DoJ 8/1. Under White House review as of 8/6.
JCS RoE Delivered 7/15.
NORAD RoE Delivered 7/7.
JCS DDO logs Delivered 7/15.
NORAD Cmd Delivered 7/7.
Dir logs
NEAPS logs Delivered 6/16.
1st AF logs Delivered 6/16.
DoD After NIMA report delivered 6/3.
delivered 7/15.
Navy submitted 110 pages of materials responsive to

1-10 provided by LANTFLT, PACFLT, and NAVEUR. .
Delivered to document processing facility on 8/1.
Delivered: 8/8.
NORAD reports delivered: 7/25.
Site-R After Action reports identified in search for logs

have been reviewed and delivered to document
processing facility on 7/28. Delivered 8/8.
Additional JCS item as of 7/31: JCS Historian

timeline/other 9/11 data. Data being compiled.
JFCOM: Received by Joint Staff on 7/29. Delivered to

document processing facility 8/1 (check?).
NSA reports compiled. Expected to be delivered to the

Commission by 8/15.
1
August 12,2003
USUHS: Identified 14 AARs relevant to this request.

Undergoing final approval; expect delivery o/a 8/11.
Negative replies: DIA, USMC, 1st AF/CONR.

Re-tasked 1st AF/CONAR (re Col Scott brief).
protocols
NORAD/LEA Delivered 7/7.
protocols
comms on 9-11
NORAD/LEA Delivered 7/7.
comms on 9-11
JSS radar files Delivered 6/2.
DoD ORG Delivered (various dates in June)
charts
DoD phone Delivered 6/2.
books
Inquiry Commission.
Materials NRO - One document. "B" level. Still to be delivered to
Commission SCIF.
NIMA-Delivered 7/11.
DIA - Approximately 20 binders delivered 7/15.
3 boxes identified from DIA as Joint Inquiry material.
All the binders have been delivered and of the three
boxes all but approximately 800 pages.
Other materials already reviewed by Commission staff
(Mr. Kara); delivery is low priority for Commission (per
Mr. Kara) - being indexed.
Defensive Initiative Report delivered 8/1.
August 12, 2003

Document Request #2
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Title
Center support groups (with release forms) in document processing
9/11 facility.
Set 4: Remaining Navy digital files: 167 oral histories, audio
only, military and GS personnel. Also, abstracts for all Navy
interviews. Also, some interviewee photos, military and GS
personnel. Also, Army oral histories sent to Naval Historical
Center to date. In document processing facility.
Set 5: OSD, USAF, USMC interviews (in transcript) and other
records resident at Naval Historical Center and on loan. Also,
Navy oral histories available on tape only (to be converted to
digital format beginning 7/24). Also, text from Contemporary
History and Operational Archives. Also, classified (SECRET-
level) digital records (CDs). Estimated delivery to document
Met w/Commission staff (Mr. Dunne, Mr. Shaeffer), NHC,

DoD OGC, and OUSD(I) 7/24 - to reach agreement on
interview protocol release. Agreement:
Step 1: Begin processing Navy oral history abstracts for
release to Commission (part of Set 4). Delivered to
Commission 8/1.
Step 2: Schedule meeting of all DoD historians to provide
assistance to Commission staff in prioritizing their research
efforts relative to interviews. Meeting held on 7/31.
Historians agreed to prioritize their organization's oral
histories and will provide status updates to USD(I).
Step 3: Draft LOA provided by Commission (Mr. Dunne) to
USD(I) regarding handling of remaining interview materials.
Accepted by DoD, 7/29.
August 12, 2003

Document Request #3
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Title
Detainee DIA sent materials responding to original request and first
report supplement to document processing facility on 8/6. The
info materials have completed DoD review process.
Expected delivery date 8/12.
3,2nd Second supplement-request received 7/31. Data searches

Splmt underway.
August 12, 2003

Document Request #4

Sign Events/Phone JCS JCS: Significant event conference tape was
Conf. submitted with Doc Req #1 (Item 3).
Tapes or transcripts
office was located and provided 7/28.
Related issue: 9/11 NOIWON conference

call. JCS search - negative 8/6. CIA
checked - negative 8/6: NOIWONs not
recorded by CIA. CIA checked with WHCA -
negative 8/6: NOIWONs not recorded by
WHCA.
C-130Acft@ NGB/ANG Delivered: 8/8 including crew list and debrief
Andrews AFB on 9- (AF/XOHP reports (mission and intel)
11 Mr Huddleston * High-priority for Commission staff (Mr. Kara)
/Mr Hurckes)
4-3 NORAD phone NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
confer on 9-11 beginning: 8/5.
4-4 Additional 9-11 NORAD Data being compiled Estimated delivery
phone confer beginning: 8/5.
4-5 NEAD Transcripts NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
beginning: 8/5.
4-6 NEAD acft wing Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
transcripts beginning: 8/5.
4-7 Air Force Base NORAD Data being compiled Estimated delivery
Responses to beginning: 8/5.
NEAD
4-8a. Pilot Logs (personal NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
logs) beginning: 8/5.
Confirmed with Miles Kara on 8/3, that this
request is for any personal logs the pilot kept.
4-8b. Pilot Logs (personal Re-tasked to Received Follow on request by Miles Kara -
logs) AF/ANG via email on 8/4. Commission is now
requesting "Pilot names, and current
locations.
AF/XOHP retasked ANG on 8/5 to obtain this

information.
AF relays that Gen McKinely/1st AF, already

gave a similar briefing to the NGB with this
info OCT/NOV 01. Info was passed to JIC
August 12,2003
and should be in the JIG materials.

4-9a. Air Traffic Control AF/XOHP Langley Tower Log delivered to document
Logs Mr Huddleston processing facility 7/22.
/Mr Hurckes ACC and NGB confirmed ATC logs for
requested bases were destroyed per SOP.
Miles Kara confirmed on 8/3 that the
Commission is looking for "flight strips" kept
by the Towers.
4-9b. Air Traffic Control AF/XOHP Received further amplification from Miles
Logs Mr Huddleston Kara, Commission staff, on 8/4.
/Mr Hurckes "Commission learned at Andrews Tower that
flight strips are held for 15 days unless there
is need to hold them further for investigation.
If someone is telling us that they were
shredded, then we need a piece of paper
explaining why flight strips for 9/11 were not
held and why they were routinely
destroyed even though the SOP allows that."
AF/XOHP retasked ANG on 8/5 to see if they

can locate this information.
4-10 NORAD Logs- NORAD Delivered to document processing facility: 8/8.
VIGILANT
GUARDIAN
4-11 DoD Exercises JCS Data being compiled by NORAD. Estimated
delivery 8/5.
JCS and SOCOM have no data to support
this request.
4-12 NORAD's NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
AMALGAM VIRGO beginning: 8/5.
01/02 Exercise
4-13 OSD docs on USD(P) Search for documents underway to include
NORAD Mission electronic data tracking system, as of 7/22.
Re-tasked to broaden search parameters -

based on 7/24 meeting with Commission
staff.
Estimated delivery: 8/8.
DPG/CPG re USD(P) Delivered: 7/25.

NORAD
JSCP re: NORAD JCS Deliveries: 7/28 and 8/8.
JSR re: NORAD
JWCA re: NORAD
August 12, 2003

4-16 IPL JCS Delivered to document processing facility: 8/8.

Requirements Rpt
4-17 NORAD Cong. NORAD Delivered to document processing facility: 8/8.
Testimony
4-18 DoD acft IVO NYC NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
and Wash DC beginning: 8/5.
4-19 1. JSR radar tapes JCS 1 . Provided to document processing facility on
2. NMCCIogs 7/28.
3. CMOCIogs 2. Provided to document processing facility on
4. NEADIogs 7/28.
5. 1stAF/CADR 3. Provided to document processing facility on
logs 8/8.
on 8/8.
on 8/8.
Wf NRO exercise on 9- NRO Delivered 7/15.
11
4-21 Pentagon 9-11 USD(P) Not in WHS/PFPA files. USD(P) SO/LIC
date.
4-22 DoD medical TBD Initially tasked to WHS/PFPA files. Spoke
training scenario w/Mr. Jester, PFPA, 7/24. Retasked to
DeLorenzo Clinic 8/6.
4-23 LTC Deskins NEAD NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
logs beginning: 8/5.
4-24 FAA notification to NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery

NORAD on 9-11 beginning: 8/5.
NMJIC SDO log JCS Delivered 7/7. (Part of Document Request #1 ,

•1 Item 2)
4-26 NSOC SDO log NSA Possible Executive Privilege issue. In
coordination with DoJ/NSC as of 7/28.
4-27 NIMA imagery logs NIMA Delivered to document processing facility:
7/18. Contains some "B" material, to be
handled separately. Non-"B" materials
estimated delivery date: 8/8
ANMCC SDO logs JCS DDO and most subordinate position logs are
• not available. Logs from CWO and Site-R
personnel are located and were delivered to
Delivered: 8/8.
NEACAP SDO logs JCS Delivered: 8/8.
•
August 12, 2003

• TRANSCOM SDO
logs
JCS TRANSCOM Ops Officer log delivered to
document processing facility 7/31.
4-31 ACC SDO log ACC Delivered 7/25.
4-32 NORAD Reg 55-1 1 NORAD Requested document was superceded
approx 5 years prior to 9/1 1 . Copy will be
provided as well as the CON PLAN in effect
on 9-1 1 . Delivered to document processing
facility: 8/8.
4-33 SECDEF, WHS, USD(P) USD(P) schedules delivered to document
for 9-1 1
NSA data NSA NSA providing Commission staff access to
—
the information as of 7/30.
JCS DoD threat JCS Message was provided to document
• level processing facility on 7/22. Delivered: 7/25.
JCS/DoD Order to JCS Message was provided to document
™ DEFCON 3 processing facility on 7/22. Delivered: 7/25.
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August 12, 2003
Document Request #5

AA Flight 77 ACC Delivered to Document Processing Facility on
(AF/XOHP 7/22. Delivered: 7/25.
Mr Huddleston
/Mr Hurckes)
Langley ACC Delivered to Document Processing Facility on
Mr Huddleston
/Mr Hurckes)
Otis AF ACC Delivered to Document Processing Facility on
Mr Huddleston
/Mr Hurckes
National Guard
Bureau
NYAcft ACC Delivered to Document Processing Facility on
Mr Huddleston
/Mr Hurckes
Overall ACC Delivered to Document Processing Facility on
scenario (AF/XOHP 7/22. Delivered: 7/25.
Mr Huddleston
/Mr Hurckes
9
August 12,2003
Document Request #6

6-1 OSD/JCS UBL and CT JCS/J3&J5 Partial JCS data provided to document
policy briefings and docs USD(P) processing facility on 7/28. Under review.
1/1/98-19/20/01 WHS/Larry
Horner USD(P) to compile by 8/15. Distributed to
Policy Pocs primary search underway in
SO/LIC and ISA - 7/22. Collection in
progress; delivery to document processing
facility to start 8/8.
WHS delivered documents to document

processing facility on 7/23. Additional
documents were delivered on 7/31.
Search completed.
6-2 SECDEF/JCS JCS/J3 JCS: 3 documents were located; however,
policy/docs on general USD(P) SAP and FP access needs to be
CT policy WHS/ Larry coordinated prior to document delivery.
1/1/98-19/20/01 Horner

processing facility on 7/23/03. Additional
documents were delivered on 7/31.
Search completed.
6-3 SOCOM/CENTCOM or JCS/J3&J5 JCS: CENTCOM has requested an
OSD/JCS strategy USD(P) extension until 8/15 to facilitate their
papers WHS/ Larry search. SOCOM initial search did not
Re: JSOC Horner identify any documents but are continuing
1/1/98-12/31/01 to search. J3 has no responsive
documents.


processing facility on 7/23. Search
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August 12, 2003
completed.
6-4 OSD/JCS papers for JCS/J3 No JCS documents were identified
Pres/VP Transition USD(P) responsive to this request.
Team WHS/ Larry
RE: Terrorist Orgs Horner USD(P) to compiled by 8/15

6-5 OSD/JCS and JCS/J3 JCS has no data to support. CENTCOM

CENTCOM docs USD(P) requests extension until 8/15 to facilitate
RE: Navy Forces WHS/ Larry search.
Horner
Navy tasked to fleet 7/25. Expected
delivery to document processing facility on
8/13.


SECDEF Budget USD(C) Delivered to document processing facility
Re:CT 7/18. Delivered: 7/25
1. FY2001, FY2002, and FY2003
requests.
CT.
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August 12, 2003
6-7 UK meeting info USD(P) USD(P) to compile by 8/1 5

WHS/ Larry Distributed to Policy Pocs primary search
Horner underway in SO/LIC and ISA - 7/22.

6-8 BMD Commission MDA Awaiting reply from AT&L.
report/Annex AT&L Negative reply: MDA
6-9 USD(I) authorities DA&M Estimated delivery date 8/8
OSD/JCS, DoD IG DoDIG Ten reports compiled 7/17
CT/FP Reports and Delivered to the document processing
Audits JCS facility: 7/25.

processing facility on 7/28 (address Force
Protection and Antiterrorism reports and
training).
SECDEF corresp. USD(C) Delivered to document processing facility

™ RE: CT/FP supplemental
funding
6-12 SECDEF/JCS corresp. USD(P) USD(P) Estimated delivery to document

ToDCI WHS/ Larry processing facility: 8/15. Collection in
Horner progress; delivery to document processing
JCS
WHS delivered 1 to document processing
facility 7/23/03. Search completed.
Joint Staff delivered 13 CD to OGC on 28

Jul, which address Force Protection and
Antiterrorism reports and training. A SAR
documents was identified however, SAP
and FP access needs to be coordinated
prior to document delivery.

and DCI meeting WHS/ Larry processing facility: 8/15. Collection in
agendas Horner progress; delivery to document processing
12
August 12, 2003

processing facility 7/23. One additional
document delivered on 7/31 . Search
completed.
1/1/98-9/20/01
processing facility 7/23. Search
completed.
6-15 DIA Products on 9-1 1 DIA OLA Delivered to document processing facility
8/5.
6-16 COCOM Intel Req. for DIA OLA Delivered to document processing facility
CT and FP 8/5.
1/1/98-9/20/01
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August 12, 2003
Briefing Request

#
1 NMCC Completed 7/21.
OGC staff attended.
Briefing Request #2

#
1 DoD CT Collection Scheduled for 8/21 at the Commission Staff
&HD headquarters
statutory/legal
authorities
Briefing Request #3
Short Title Status

Request
#
1 PFPA overview of Completed 7/22.
staff.

#
NSA CT collection Completed: 7/17.
™ statutory/legal
authorities &
sharing
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August 12, 2003
9/11 COMMISSION BACKGROUND BRIEFINGS
OUTLINE
• USD(P) Feith meets with Executive Director Zelikow
- Overall DoD Concept/Policy on the War on Terrorism
• Policy/Joint Staff Background Briefings (4-5 hours)

- Introduction
~ Introduction of participants (Commission staff, OGC, OUSD(I),
OUSD(P), Joint Staff)
— Agenda
- Broad Overview: DoD and Combating Terrorism (CT)
- - Historical Context from Pre-Desert One
- - Evolution of Anti and Counter Terrorism policies
The information will be presented by the OUSD(P) and the Joint Staff in the
following three phases:
Phase 1: DoD CT Policy and Posture Pre 1998 Africa Bombings

Phase 2: DoD CT Policy and Posture 1998 Africa Bombings - 9/11, 2001
Phase 3: DoD CT Policy and Posture 9/11, 2001 - Present
Each phase will address: /?/«,, qh\
- - National Guidance
- - DoD Guidance and Authorities (e.g. ROE)
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- Organizational Changes ' '
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- Context/Key Events
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Thomas H. Kean
CHAIR Memorandum
Lcc H. Hamilton
VICE CHAIR
For: Major General James A. Hawkins, USAF
Richard Ben-Veniste
Vice Director, Joint Chiefs of Staff
Max Clebnd
From: Philip Zelikow
Frederick F. Fielding Executive Director
J.imie S. Goreliclc
Subj: Proposal for August Site Visits to USCENTCOM
Slade Gorton (and SOCCENT), USSOCOM and JSOC
John F. Lchnwn
Date: August 5, 2003
Timothy J. Roemer
James R. Thompson
Per our telephone conversation today, please find attached the proposed
itinerary and plans for travel to the above-mentioned military sites. The
proposed plan includes briefings and meetings. Please contact our POC
Philip D. Zclikow
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR Bonnie Jenkins at 202-331- 4078 if you have any questions.
I. Proposed Travel Sites
A. Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC)

Location: Fort Bragg, North Carolina
B. US Central Command (USCENTCOM)

Special Operations Command, CENTCOM (SOCCENT)
Location: McDill Air Force Base, Florida
C. US Special Operations Command (USSOCOM)

Location: McDill Air Force Base, Florida ^
y
II. Proposed Travel Dates: Sunday. August 17 - Thursday, August 21, 20Q3_ * ^
A. August 17, evening: Depart Washington, DC

B. August 18: Begin one-day visit to JSOC
C. August 18, evening: Travel to Florida
D. August 20 - 21: Visit USCENTCOM and USSOCOM
E. August 21, evening: Return to Washington, DC
We propose to begin each site visit with briefings and conclude by meeting
with the Commander and any other members of the Command the
Commander deems appropriate (for example, possibly the J3 and J5).
301 7'1' Street SW, Room 5125
Washington, DC 2CH07
T 202.331.4060 F 202.296.5545
HO 756 P.3/3
AUG. 5.2003 5:08PM
08/05/03
in. Proposed 9-11 Staff Participation
Philip Zelikow, Executive Director

Mike Hurley, Commission Staff Member
Bonnie Jenkins, Commission Staff Member
W. Proposed Briefing, Subjects

A. Briefings on operations and contingency plans for CT from January 1,1998 to
September 11, 2001 ;l
B. Briefings on operations and contingency plans for CT from September 11, 2001
to the present;
C. Information on the Joint Interagency Action Coordination Group (JIACG);
D. Briefings on ongoing activities with partners in CT military operations and plans;
and
E. Briefings on changes to the chain of command structure in SOCOM, CENTCOM
and JSOC on CT issues following 9-11 and how these changes affect the chain of
command within CENTCOM (CENTCOM and SOCCENT) and SOCOM
(SOCOM and JSOC).
In addition, SOCOM specific:

A. Mechanisms adopted by SOCOM to streamline and expedite the decision making
process;
B. Information on the Campaign Support Group (CSG); / / ' / Jj
C. A copy and a brief on the National Campaign Plan; and ' £ * * " ^^l^-
D. The role of JSOC within SOCOM.
In addition, CENTCOM and SOCCENT specific:

A. Briefings on special operations plans for CT within the CENTCOM AOR; and
B. The role of SOCCENT within CENTCOM. , „
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In addition, JSOC specific:

A. Briefing on JSOC interaction with the special operations paramilitary of the
CIA while in the field. — /<W -^ n
V. Proposed Meetings
General Abizaid USCENTCOM Commander

General Brown USSOCOM Commander
Major General Daly JSOC Commander
Brigadier General Harrell SOCCENT Commander
1 "CT* in this document refers to counterterrorism issues related Usama bin Laden, Afghanistan (including the
Northern Alliance and/or the Taliban), Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Sudan.
'
^ UNITED'
Thomas H. Kean DOD BRIEFING REQUEST NO.

CHAIR
Lee H. Hamilton
VICE CHAIR The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
Richard Ben- Veniste
requests an orientation/briefing from the Joint Intelligence Task Force-
Combating Terrorism (JITF-CT) on the following topics:
MaxQeland
Fred F. Fielding 1). How the JITF-CT was organized to provide intelligence to DoD
regarding a possible terrorist attack prior to September 11, 2001;
Jamie S. Gorelick
Slade Gorton 2) How the JITF-CT is now organized to provide such intelligence
following the September 11 attacks;
John Lehman
Timothy J. Roemer 3) The types of intelligence support provided to DoD and its military
components, including support to CT operations in Operation Enduring
James R. Thompson
Freedom;
Philip D. Zelikow
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR 4) The single database that contains terrorist-related intelligence and law
enforcement information in a single repository, enabling detailed link,
pattern, and trend analysis; and
5). The interaction of the JITF-CT with the DCI's Counterterrorism

Center, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Terrorist Threat
Integration Center.
This request is separate and distinct from the Commission's Briefing

Request No. 2 for information on the statutory and other legal authorities
relevant to the use of military forces for homeland defense and security
activities within the United States. Please schedule this
orientation/briefing at the earliest possible date.
August xx, 2003 Daniel Marcus

General Counsel
TEL (202) 331-4060

FAX (202) 296-5545
DoD Briefing Request No.
The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States requests a
orientation/briefing from the Joint Intelligence Task Force-Combating Terrorism on how
the Task Force was organized prior to September 11, 1991 to provide intelligence to DoD
in preparation for a possible terrorist attack. The Commission is also interested in how
the Task Force is now organized to provide such intelligence following the September 11
attacks. Please schedule this orientation/briefing at the earliest possible date.
August Daniel Marcus
General Counsel
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Subject: Fwd: DoD Attendees at our 7/24 Meeting (U)
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:45:23 -0400

From: "Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI" <Pat.Downs@osd.mil>
Reply-To: "Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI" <Pat.Downs@osd.mil>
Subject: DoD Attendees at our 7/24 Meeting (U)
To: "'sdunne@9-llcommission.gov1" <sdunnei9-llcommission.gov>, "'mkara@9-
llcommission.gov'" <mkara@9-llcommission.gov>
UNCLASSIFIED
Miles,
As you requested, the following lists DoD personnel who attended yesterday's
meeting:
USD(Intelligence)
Mr. Richard Haver
Ms. Patricia Downs
Ms. Faith Corson
Ms. Janet Edghill
Ms. Marilyn Blackmon
Ms. Stephanie Brewer
DoD OGC
Mr. Stewart Aly (Legal Counsel)
Ms. Sharon Gainor (Legal Counsel - Document Processing Facility)
Mr. Harvey Dalton (Intelligence)
USD(Policy)
Mr. Robert Doheny (SO/LIC)
JCS
Col Susan Kuehl, USAF (J3/NMCC)
CAPT Hal Dronberger, USN (CJCS Legal Counsel)
Maj Jeanne Meyer, USAF(CJCS Legal Counsel)
Lt Col Marshall Mantiply, USAF (J5)
DIA
Mr. Robert Berry (General Counsel)
Mr. Sal Ferro (Congressional Affairs)
Good weekend. Pat
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9/11 COMMISSION DOCUMENTS BRIEFING REQUESTS
July 24, 2003

Document Request #1
Item # Short Title Status

1-1 OSD/CCG Compiled in document processing facility. Possible
Logs Executive Privilege identified; under review.
(Correction from previous edition.)
1-2 JCS CAT logs Included NMJIC intelligence logs (1C ORCON-release
approval obtained 7/2), delivered 7/7. JCS CAT logs
delivered 7/1 5.
1-3 . Air threat Poss. Executive Privilege. Draft transcription
conference call completed 7/1 1 .
NMCC review of transcript completed 18 Jul.

Delivered to OGC/document processing facility on 22
Jul.
Transcriber to revise transcript based on JCS QC.

1-4 JCS RoE on Delivered 7/15.
9/11
1-5 NORAD RoE Delivered 7/7.
1-6 JCS DDO logs Delivered 7/1 5.
1-7 NORAD Cmd Delivered 7/7.
Dir logs
1-8 NEADS logs Delivered 6/16.
1-9 1 st AF logs Delivered 6/16.
1-10 DoD After NIMA report delivered 6/3.
delivered 7/15
Navy: Est delivery of additional reports (if found) 7/31
NORAD reports being indexed for delivery - estimated

delivery: 7/23. Site-R After Action reports identified in
search for logs are being reviewed, expect delivery to
OGC by 28 Jul
JFCOM: Awaiting signature by Adm Giambastiani who

is traveling until Friday , 25 Jul. He has package with
him. No update available until 28 Jul.
Negative replies: DIA, USMC, 1st AF/CONAR.

NSA to deliver directly to Commission by 7/18.
1
July 24, 2003

protocols
1-12 NORAD/LEA Delivered 7/7.
protocols
1-13 NORAD/FAA Delivered 7/7.
comms on Sept
11
1-14 NORAD/LEA Delivered 7/7.
comms on Sept
11
1-15 JSS radar files Delivered 6/2.
1-16 Various Delivered (various dates in June)
organization
charts
1-17 DoD phone Delivered 6/2.

books
Inquiry Commission.
Materials NRO - Being indexed. Estimated delivery: 7/21 .
NIMA- Delivered 7/11.
DIA - Partial Delivery (binders): 7/1 1 . Remaining
binders delivered: 7/15. Other materials already
reviewed by Commission staff (Mr. Kara); delivery is
low priority for Commission (per Mr. Kara) - being
indexed.
July 24, 2003

Document Request #2
ltem# Short Status

Title
Center support groups (w/release forms) in document processing
9/11 facility.
Set 4: Audio only interviews conducted by Navy. Also,
abstracts for all Navy interviews - expected in document
Set 5: Digital files for remaining Navy conducted interviews.
Expected in document processing facility: 7/30.
Set 6: NHC-held Army, AF, USMC, OSD conducted
interviews. Expected in document processing facility: 8/4.
Set 7: Related materials being transferred from Navy
Archives for indexing prior to release. Estimated delivery
beginning: 8/5.
Meeting w/Commission staff (Mr. Dunne, Mr. Shaeffer),

NHC, DoD OGC, and OUSD(I) set for 7/24 - to reach
agreement on interview protocol release.
July 24, 2003

Document Request #3
Item # Short Status

Title
3 Detainee Under Interagency review.
report
info
Document Request #4

4-1 Sign Events/Phone JCS JCS: Significant event conference tape was
Conf. submitted with Doc Req #1 (Item 3). No
Tapes or transcripts additional info available.

office was located and will be provided by 28
Jul.
4-2 C-130Acft@ National Forwarding an article from NGB Historian
Andrews AFB on 9- Guard Bureau files; continuing to search for additional
11 information requested.
National Guard Bureau suspense to AF/XOH
7/18.
* High-priority for Commission staff (Mr. Kara)
4-3 NORAD phone NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
confer on 9-1 1 beginning: 8/5.
4-4 Additional 9-1 1 NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
phone confer beginning: 8/5.
4-5 NEAD Transcripts NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
beginning: 8/5.
4-6 NEAD acft wing Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
transcripts beginning: 8/5.
4-7 Air Force Base NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery: 8/5.
Responses to
NEAD
4-8 Pilot Logs NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery: 8/5.
4-9 Air Traffic Control ACC Possible problem ATC logs normally
Logs destroyed within 90 days per SOP. ACC
checking to see if info was retained.
July 24, 2003


4-10 NORAD Logs- NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
VIGILANT beginning: 8/5.
GUARDIAN
4-11 DoD Exercises JCS Data being compiled by SOCOM and
NORAD. JCS has no data to support this
request. Estimated delivery: 8/5.
4-12 NORAD's NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
AMALGAM VIRGO beginning: 8/5.
01/02 Exercise
4-13 OSD docs on USD(P) Info request distributed internal to Policy
NORAD Mission search for documents underway to include
electronic data tracking system, 22 July 2003.
4-14 DPG/CPG re USD(P) Delivered to document processing facility

NORAD 7/18. Estimated delivery: 7/24.
4-15 JSCP re: NORAD JCS JSCP and JSR were provided to OGC
JSR re: NORAD document processing facility on 22 Jul.
JWCA re: NORAD JWCA data being compiled. Estimated
delivery: 8/5.
4-16 I PL JCS Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
Requirements Rpt beginning: 8/5.
4-17 NORAD Cong. NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
Testimony beginning: 8/5.
4-18 DoD acft IVO NYC NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
and Wash DC beginning: 8/5.
4-19 1 . JSR radar tapes JCS Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
2. NMCCIogs beginning: 8/5.
3. CMOC logs Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
4. NEADIogs beginning: 8/5.
5. 1stAF/CADR Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
beginning: 8/5.
Data being compiled. Estimated delivery: 8/5.
4-20 NRO exercise on 9- NRO Delivered 7/1 5.
11
4-21 Pentagon 9-1 1 USD(P) Not in WHS/PFPA files. USD(P) SO/LIC
date (22 July, 2003).
4-22 DoD medical TBD Not in WHS/PFPA files. Re-task to WHS.
training scenario
4-23 LTC Deskins NEAD NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
4-24 FAA notification to NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
July 24, 2003


NORADon9-11 beginning: 8/5.
4-25 NMJIC SDO log JCS Delivered 7/7. (Part of Document Request #1,
Item 2)
4-26 NSOC SDO log NSA Action to be completed. Estimated delivery:
7/18. Possible Executive Privilege.
4-27 NIMA imagery logs NIMA Delivered to document processing facility:
7/18.
Estimated delivery date: 7/23

4-28 ANMCC SDO logs JCS DDO and most subordinate position logs are
not available. Logs from CWO and Site-R
personnel are located and will be delivered by
28 Jul
4-29 NEACAP SDO logs JCS Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
beginning: 8/5.
4-30 TRANSCOM SDO JCS Data being compiled. Estimated delivery

4-31 ACC SDO log ACC Data being compiled. Estimated delivery:
7/25.
4-32 NORAD Reg 55-1 1 NORAD Data being compiled. Estimated delivery: 8/5.
4-33 SECDEF, WHS USD(P) schedules delivered to document

for 9-1 1
4-34 NSA data NSA Estimated delivery directly to Commission:
7/18.
Sent to Document Processing Facility on
7/18.
4-35 JCS DoD threat JCS Message was provided to OGC document
level processing facility on 22 Jul.
4-36 JCS/DoD Order to JCS Message was provided to OGC document
DEFCON 3 processing facility on 22 Jul
July 24, 2003

Document Request #5

5-1 AA Flight 77 ACC Estimated delivery 7/25.

7/22.
5-2 Langley ANG Note: Info may not be available. Activity not
Activity recorded on 9-11 - Not SOP to record info.
ACC poc is still re-checking for data.

7/22.
5-3 Otis AF NGB Estimated delivery 7/25.
Activity National Guard
Bureau Delivered to Document Processing Facility on
7/22.
5-4 NYAcft NGB Estimated delivery 7/25.
Activity
7/22.
5-5 Hijacked acft NGB: Estimated delivery 7/25.
acty Otis, Langley C130 from Andrews will have Air Mobility
and Andrews Command Input since this Minnesota ANG C130
AFBs. was flying ANC mission. Aircraft had unusual
involvement in 9-11 events since they were
witnesses to Pentagon attack (ref Doc Req #4-2).

7/22.
7
July 24, 2003
Document Request #6

6-1 OSD/JCS UBL and CT JCS/J3&J5 JCS to compile by 8/1
policy briefings and docs USD(P)
1/1/98-19/20/01 WHS/Larry USD(P) to compile by 8/15. Distributed to
Horner Policy Pocs primary search underway in
SO/LIC and ISA 22 July, 2003
WHS to compile by 7/24

6-2 SECDEF/JCS JCS/J3 JCS to compiled by 8/1
policy/docs on general USD(P)
CT policy WHS/ Larry USD(P) to compile by 8/15
1/1/98-19/20/01 Horner Distributed to Policy Pocs primary search
underway in SO/LIC and ISA 22 July,
2003
6-3 SOCOM/CENTCOM or JCS/J3&J5 JCS to compile by 8/1

OSD/JCS strategy USD(P)
papers WHS/ Larry
Re: JSOC Horner USD(P) to compile by 8/15
1/1/98-12/31/01 Distributed to Policy Pocs primary search
2003
6-4 OSD/JCS papers for JCS/J3 JCS to compile by 8/1

Pres/VP Transition USD(P)
Team WHS/ Larry USD(P) to compiled by 8/15
RE: Terrorist Orgs Horner Distributed to Policy Pocs primary search
2003
6-5 OSD/JCS and JCS/J3 JCS/CENTCOM to compile by 8/1

CENTCOM docs USD(P)
RE: Navy Forces WHS/ Larry USD(P) to compile by 8/15
Horner Distributed to Policy Pocs primary search
8
July 24, 2003

2003
6-6 SECDEF Budget USD(C) Delivered to document processing facility

Re:CT 7/18. Estimated delivery date: 7/24
1. FY2001, FY2002, and FY2003
requests.
CT.
6-7 UK meeting info USD(P) USD(P) to compile by 8/15

WHS/ Larry Distributed to Policy Pocs primary search
Horner underway in SO/LIC and ISA 22 July,
2003
6-8 BMD Commission MDA Awaiting reply from AT&L.

report/Annex AT&L Negative reply: MDA
6-9 USD(I) authorities WHS Data being compiled.
Estimated delivery date 7/25
6-10 OSD/JCS, DoD IG DoDIG Six reports compiled 7/17

CT/FP Reports and LTCOL Estimated delivery to document
Audits Tennison/ processing facility: 7/21
SOLIC DoD IG continuing to check on additional
documents for delivery.
Expect SO/LIC SO/CT to provide copies of

the reports by 25 Jul. ,
6-11 SECDEF corresp. USD(C) Delivered to document processing facility
RE: CT/FP supplemental 7/18. Estimated delivery: 7/24.
funding
6-12 SECDEF/JCS corresp. USD(P) USD(P) Estimated delivery to document
ToDCI WHS/ Larry processing facility: 7/21
July 24, 2003


Horner

and DCI meeting WHS/ Larry processing facility: 7/21
agendas Horner

1/1/98-9/20/01
6-15 DIA Products on 9-1 1 DIA OLA Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
to document processing facility: 8/1 5.
6-16 COCOM Intel Req. for DIA OLA Data being compiled. Estimated delivery
CT and FP to document processing facility: 8/15.
1/1/98-9/20/01
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July 24, 2003
Briefing Request #1

#
1 NMCC Completed 7/21.
OGC staff attended.
Briefing Request #2

#
2 DoD CT Collection Confirming availability week of 28 July.
&HD
statutory/legal ^ J^ V&
authorities
Briefing Request #3

#
3 PFPA overview of Completed 22 July.
staff.
Received hard copy briefing.
11
July 24, 2003

#
NSA1 NSA CT collection Completed: 7/17.
statutory/legal
authorities &
sharing
12
July 24, 2003
WITHDRAWAL NOTICE
RG: 148 Exposition, Anniversary, and Memorial Commissions

SERIES: Team 3, 9/11 Commission
NND PROJECT NUMBER: 52100 FOIA CASE NUMBER: 31107
WITHDRAWAL DATE: 11/18/2008
BOX: 00003 FOLDER: 0006 TAB: 1 DOC ID: 31205836
COPIES: 1 PAGES:
_ RESTRICTED
The item identified below has been withdrawn from this file:
FOLDER TITLE: Hurley's [Dept. of Defense] File
DOCUMENT DATE: 07/03/2003 DOCUMENT TYPE: Letter
FROM:
TO:
SUBJECT: DoD Document Request No. 6
This document has been withdrawn for the following reason(s):

9/11 Classified Information
WITHDRAWAL NOTICE
Jamie Gorelick's issue
Are we getting the documents?
Remember to make the points to DoD about Jamie Gorelick's issue

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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:28:43 -0400
From: "" <bjenkins@9-11commission.gov>4P'
To: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4J
Subject: Re: The Admiral Siglar Briefing
Yes, and I do believe thatthe priority issue (tied with having enough people
die to make it important) is going to be one of the findings of our team when
this is all said and done.
Bonnie
Quoting "" <mhurley@9-llcommission.gov>:
>
> Bonnie:
> I apologize. I only just read your notes on Adm Siglar's briefing. It was
> buried under the blizzard of paper on my desk.
> I read them closely this morning. What he said was very, very interesting.
> I
> think many of his points we will hear again and again: that CT was just one
> of
> many competing priorities; that it took 9/11 to move it to the head of the
> list, etc.
> We will definitely benefit from scheduling a formal interview of Adm Siglar.
> Thanks to you and Dan for meeting with him. Great work!
> Mike
>
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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:37:03 -0400
From: "" <mhurley@9-11commission.gov>4P
To: "" <bjenkins@9-11 commission.gov>^,"" <dlb32@georgetown.edu><P,"" <dbyman@9-11commission.gov>4P
Cc: "" <team3@9-11commission.gov>4P
Subject: The Admiral Siglar Briefing
Bonnie:
I apologize. I only just read your notes on Adm Siglar's briefing. It was
buried under the blizzard of paper on my desk.
I read them closely this morning. What he said was very, very interesting. I
think many of his points we will hear again and again: that CT was just one of
many competing priorities; that it took 9/11 to move it to the head of the
list, etc.
We will definitely benefit from scheduling a formal interview of Adm Siglar.
Thanks to you and Dan for meeting with him. Great work!
Mike
http://kinesis.swishmail.com/webmail/imp/rnessage.php?Horde=6e3f79a9f02ffce501efa47a9... 7/18/03
07/17/03 Bonnie D. Jenkins
Background Interview with Adm (ret) Sigler

Former CENTCOM/J5
July 10, 2003, 10:00am
Interviewers: Dan Byman and Bonnie Jenkins
Adm. Sigler served in the CENTCOM/J5 position until March 2000.
Overall question - was the military engaged regarding the issue of CT prior to 9-11? The
general assessment is that it was not.
Sigler: That is an interesting question. If the belief that the military was not engaged is
correct, then why was it not?
A terrorist attack against the US was a matter of when, not if. Many were saying this. So I
when the problem comes, one would be ready if one made the right investments in '^
preparation. It was hard to get this resourced because so many other priorities existed.
The question is, how much was enough at the time if a major attack had not yet occurred?
What could we have afforded not to do in preparation for an attack?
Many were talking about and looking at the issue. We were doing things at CENTCOM.
CTjwas one of many priorities and it did not jurnpjojhejiead_of the list until after 9-11._
If we blame anyone hereTithas to be the peoplewho did know. Some knew but were not
given a voice or were not talking loud enough. Were the CINCs pounding on the tables?
Clark knew the system and was working the system and yet he could not get the US to do
what it is doing now. This is indicative of anorganizationa] problem and maybe not a
problem because people were not doing their jobST^—•
There was a SOCENT liaison located at CENTCOM but working for the J3. SOCENT
was working the CT problem hard. But the problem is that the CIA, FBI and local law
enforcement was not showing SOCENT enough information. Yet, SOF was always in a
stovepipe doing their own thing and was very secretive. The SOF work in CT issue was
so highly classified that many did not know about it. Many were working hard on the CT I
but the issue had not reached a critical mass and they could not force the issue if there
wasjio jtttack. Now after 9-11 they have been joined with the combmeoârmed forces,
and we have a better idea of what SOF is doing. T~ ~~
The SOF was focused on al Qaeda and the UBL. UBL got briefed twice a week and there
was concern in CENTCOM about the threat. I believe there were several messages that
went from CENTCOM to OSD about CENTCOM's concerns about al Qaeda.
There were competing priorities for CENTCOM. The first major competing priority was
Iraq and^jadflam. There were many on-going military operations, for example, Desert (^- • ~ A
Fox. These were very time-consuming. The second competing priority was the Theater L gjfr. r6"^
Engagement Plan (TEP) now called the Theater Security Cooperation. This was also very a '
time-consuming. Also there is the normal day-to-day tasks in addition to other
contingencies that arise in the AOR.
There are two types of plan processes. The first is the deliberative,(J5) and the second is
the crisis action plans £J3). There are five different plans within J5.
1. Operations plans. There are two types:
a. those fully fleshed out
b. those not fully fleshed out
both are on the shelf and we can pull them, update them and execute them
when there is a crisis;
2. Concept plans. These are based on the following idea: "I have identified a
problem and I need to know how to deal with it." CT was a con plan.
Plans can be either top-down or bottom-up.

Top-down: Comes from OSD or JCS (via OSD)
Bottom-up: More interesting. "We have a problem and we must deal with it."
Iraq provides a great example:
Top-down: The Iraq plan for taking out Saddam was developed in 1999 based on a
statement by Albright that we can no longer live with Saddam.
Bottom-up: The J5 asked what if he goes away either because we take him out or due to
any other reason? What does that portend for Iraq? We told JCS we would develop this
plan. Once developed, it must be blessed by JCS and OSD.
So, J-5 developed both plans. The first one (take him out) went through more iterations
than did the "life after Saddam" plan. ^>
We did have a CT plan. We had 27 plans and CT was one of them. Again, the problem
wasjwjiere was thejMJQrjty? Where did CT fit into the overalllicherrieTQinny watch we
also had the embassy bombings. Should that have beerra~waKB=npJcall? It occurred
overseas and not many Americans died. We realized we were on an up-ramp regarding al
Qaeda but we were not at the level yet to devote national assets required andto reorganize
the bureaucracy the way we needed to in order to^ address the issue. -$t—-^ "
An attack was inevitable and we could not reorganize ourselves to prevent it. We needed /I
to do more. The problem is therefore three fold: „ ft /&/v£ > ? ^t/i?^1-*
1. the way we were organized , f^> ^<(j^J^ ' I '
2. too much on nyj pTate ^
3. there were no priorities ^
Were plans discouraged because some feared that by having them they would become
self-fulfilling?
Possibly.
Not all agencies of the US government are organized or culturally able to do the types of
planning DoD does. But the war on terrorism is an interagency problem (financial, legal,
diplomacy, nonproliferation, etc). The military is supposed to be the minor part if it is
done correctly. -
Did the military not trust Clinton?
If so, not on my level. I did not detect that on Zinni's level or in the JCS. It was not that
way at CENTCOM.
Is there adequate actionable intelligence to assist the military in developing their

operational plans in this war against terrorism?
Actionable intelligence is based on intent and not capabilities: what will the actor do with
the capability? The ability to act based on actionable intelligence changes over time. It is
dynamic. The line has switched since 9-11 where military action can take place based on
less actionable intelligence than before 9-11. But if the military acts without adequate
intelligence, it will get in trouble if the operation fails. If the 1C does not provide the best
intelligence, the 1C will be blamed for not being able to provide the warfighter with what
he/she needs to conduct operations. Actionable intelligence will never be perfect.
Any direct contact with Clark or the NSC while at CINCENT/J5?

No.
Who else should we speak with?

Talk to the guys who've worked in the J3 at CINCENT
1. LTGEN (ret) Tom Case, AR Was J3 and DCINC. His deputy who was doing the
actual day to day stuff (still on active duty) was Al Harms.
2. VADM Al Harms, now Commanding Admiral, Chief of Naval Education and
Training
J2 CINCENT
1. Bob Noonan, now the Director of Army Intelligence
At SOCENT at the time

1. General Toney
Adm Sigler is not aware of any change in plans or update of plans following the embassy
bombings. We should speak to J3 folks for that information.
There is a general distrust among military officers regarding plans. Some of it is cultural
and some of it is codified. The military is action oriented and generally does not prefer to
rely on plans.
Another suggestion: CENTCOM is an unusual combatant command. It is a very busy

command. It has been in existence for 20 years yet it has had 22 major contingencies. It
also has no forces assigned to it. It would be interesting to speak with other combatant
commands (e.g., EUCOM and PACOM) to see how they worked the CT issue in their
theater.
Weinberger Doctrine
Six tests the US should meet before committing military forces:
One: The United States should not commit forces to combat overseas unless the particular
engagement or occasion is deemed vital to our national interest or that of our allies;
Two: If we decide it is necessary to put combat troops into a given situation, we should
do so wholeheartedly and with the clear intention to winning;
Three: If we decide to commit forces to combat overseas, we should have clearly defined
political and military objectives;
Four: The relationship between our objectives and the forces we have committed - their
size, composition, and disposition - must be continually reassessed and adjusted if
necessary;
Five: Before the United States commits combat forces abroad, there must be some
reasonable assurance we will have the support of the American people and their elected
representatives in Congress; and
Six: The commitment of the US forces to combat should be at a last resort - only after
diplomatic, political, economic, and other efforts have been made to protect our vital
interests.
Beyond The Weinberger Doctrine wysiwyg://134/http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1995/CST.hl
Union and the emergence of the United States as the world's
only remaining superpower is a fundamental fact. The result
however; is a very complex and different world.
The Soviet Union, which dominated almost every aspect

of America's security strategy is gone. In its place
new countries have been born all across Eurasia. All
of them are struggling—struggling to become
democracies, struggling to develop market economies and
struggling to develop multiethnic societies. 1
In this post Cold War era, the use of military means to
pursue our national interests are becoming more and more
complicated. We continue to ask ourselves the same
fundamental question presented by former Secretary of
Defense Caspar Weinberger: "under what circumstances, and by
what means, does a great democracy such as ours reach the
painful decision that the use of military force is necessary
to protect our interests or to carry out our national
policy?"2
On 28 November 1984, while addressing the Washington Press
Club, then—Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger proposed
the following six major tests to be applied when we are
weighing the use of U.S. combat forces abroad:
(1) The United States should not commit forces to

combat overseas unless the particular engagement or
occasion is deemed vital to our national interest or
that of our allies....
(2) If we decide it is necessary to put combat troops

into a given situation, we should do so wholeheartedly
and with the clear intention of winning....
(3) If we do decide to commit forces to combat

overseas, we should have clearly defined political and
military objectives....
(4) The relationship between our objectives and the

forces we have committed—their size, composition, and
disposition—must be continually reassessed and
adjusted if necessary....
(5) Before the United States commits combat forces

abroad, there must be some reasonable assurance we will
have the support of the American people and their
elected representatives in Congress....
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x/ger Doctrine wysiwyg://134/http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1995/CST.hl
(6) The commitment of US forces to combat should be a

last resort. 3
These six points now comprise the tenets of what has
become known as the Weinberger Doctrine. The doctrine
provided a legitimate framework for the commitment of
military forces during the latter stages of the Cold War.
Additionally, it still provides a legitimate framework for
those situations where our national interests are considered
vital to our national security.4
In this post Cold War era, our current national security
strategy of Engagement and Enlargement identifies several
national interests that are categorized as being less than
vital to our national security. It is precisely for this
reason that I propose we need to go beyond the Weinberger
Doctrine. We need to utilize a different set of criteria
when determining whether to use military force in these
situations!
The current state of world affairs and the use of military
force also requires us to address the War Powers Resolution.
Several arguments exist concerning the impracticality of the
resolution and that it is even unconstitutional. In this
post Cold War era, the resolution will continue to be
tested.
Our national security strategy of Engagement and
Enlargement recognizes that "our nation can only address
this era's dangers and opportunities if we remain actively
engaged in global affairs."5 The global interdependence
created during the Cold War, has critically linked our
national security to events and access overseas. We learned
after World War I that the United States can not afford to
abandon its allies and resort to isolationism. As stated by
Mr. Weinberger, "Stark isolationism quickly would lead to a
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Interview with Dave Ochmanek and Thomas Longstreth

June 30, 2003
Interviewers: Dan Byman, Bonnie Jenkins and Alexis Albion

Location: RAND
Suggested Publications: The Joint Staff Officer's Guide 1997 AFSC Pub 1 and the
Doctrine for Planning Joint Operations 13 Apr 95 Joint Pub 5-0 (we have both of these)
There are two different types of military planning processes at the Pentagon:
1) the deliberative planning process, which follows a formal structure (as outlined in the
Joint Staff Officers' Guide) and results in operations plans and contingency plans.
Rumsfeld is changing some of the planning process now. Note: there is some
civil/military tension. It has come to a head with Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz; and
2) crisis response planning, which follows a less formal, reactive structure with no formal
rules. This varies by administration.
In general, planning goes from various civilian officials, to the JCS, to the CINCdoms.
The CINCS construct the military plans. The CINCS are responsible for developing
operations plans for their own regions based on the guidance received. Other military and
civilian officials review the plans. In reality, however, the procedure is constantly
interactive and constantly being revised. Most plans have a two-year cycle and are
reviewed by the SecDef every two years. Plans are very hard for most civilians to
understand, let alone to assess. It was very hard for the NSC in particular to get its hands
around military planning issues.
There are 3 different types of plans:

1) operations plans w/ TPFDDs1 (most detailed)
2) contingency plans w/ TPFDDs (less detailed)
3) contingency plans w/out TPFDDs (least detailed)
The "op" plans, of which there are less than half a dozen, are quite large, numbering
thousands of pages. There are more contingency plans, and even more of the minor
contingency plans.
CINCS - they always have opportunities to influence the policy process. It is not always
just top-down. The CINCS are responsible for the warfight so they want to influence
resource allocations. Joint monthly readiness reviews by the CINCS was established
because the CINCs wanted more say in resource allocations.
CINCENT is a busy CINC. It believed Afghanistan was a "backwater" country. It did

not put their best people on the "Stans" and there was also a lot of "deadweight" on the
"Stans." The focus of deliberative planning effort was on N. Korean and Iraq rather than
counterterrorism.
1 Time-phased force and deployment data (TPFDD): This is the Joint Operation Planning and Execution System
data, non-unit-related cargo and personal data, and movement data for the plan.
SOCCENT was the key for deliberate planning regarding SOF in Afghanistan. A
problem with SOF is that they are very secretive and this secrecy makes it hard for them
to coordinate with others. SOFs are very compartmentalized so we don't know where
they are or what they are doing.
The 1993 bottom-up review did list terrorism as a major concern. The military was to focus
on terrorism and prepare for dealing with potential terrorist threats. This led to a DIA
assessment of the threat. But from 1993-1995, the focus was more on hostage rescue and
state-sponsored terrorism. In 1998, the threat assessment was broadened to include force
protection for foreign deployed troops, e.g. in Bosnia there was tremendous concern
regarding Mujahedin attacks.
On September 12, there was apian on the shelf for Afghanistan. While prior planning
was done, as noted earlier, not much attention was paid to Afghanistan. The plans on the
shelf were likely those used as the basis of planning for Enduring Freedom. So, there was
some work done because they were told to plan something.
There was criticism that the Clinton administration was spending resources doing silly
things (e.g., taking children to school, rather than focused on warfighting. There was also
a concern that the administration got involved in military action that contradicted the
Weinberger Doctrine. Perry got it right when he said to use force when interests are
commensurate with the costs and risks involved. The Perry approach was that every case
is to be assessed on its own merits (use the military and assets when the risks are weighed
against the threat to US interests). However, there was no 9-11 yet so our "image" was
not going to deal with a war and it was difficult in that case to energize the Pentagon (ie.
serious threat needed to justify action). Now you have 9-11. Costs and risks of inaction
are too high. This administration is much more forceful with the military.
Did the military trust Clinton to use force responsibly? Yes, they disliked Clinton until
they saw Rumsfeld ©.
Tom: Never had a bad experience. The military planners did not resent me because I was
a democrat. However, there was some evidence of military suspicion of the Clinton
administration, but it had little effect. A bigger issue was simply military resistance to
civilian officials doing planning.
The Clinton White House was only going to spend a certain amount of political capital on
the military. After the "gays in the military" issue, they were only willing to push the
military but so far. They wanted the military and defense not to be a problem (ie. did not
want crises and the military in general, to be an issue). They also did not want to spend
too much money.
The military does not always present extreme options such as Tomahawks versus full-
blown invasion. At USAF, they developed five to six air options before the conflict,
recognizing the importance of flexibility.
At the upper levels, it is very much personality driven. When Clinton came in, it was
tense. There was a suspicion of Powell. The administration had not worked with the
military before. This was exacerbated by the Somalia and Bosnia situations. Over time,
the Perry-Shalikashvili relationship was great, but before that there was tension. Cohen
had a good relationship with the Chairman but a bad relationship with the Combatant
Commanders.
Intelligence
Intelligence reform in the 1990s emphasized intelligence support for the warfighter.
There were numerous institutional and interagency changes, and technological
investments, to encourage this. However, to get a major change in collection, you need
high-level civilian attention (need high-level SecDef attention).
Intelligence has many assets and involved agencies. A great deal of time and effort has
been spent improving intelligence to help the warfighter. It is much better now. Iraq is an
example of the success of this. Once the war started, there were huge improvements.
How can we prioritize what is needed from intelligence? One way to address this is to
have more interaction between the military and intelligence. There are now more
representatives from the agencies embedded in the military staff. We need to continue
having liaisons.
The 1C now has more innovative techniques. A lot is ad hoc (going around the system).
Overall however, the 1C is not quick enough to adapt to the new threat. The 1C must
think creatively of going after high value targets.
Other general notes

August 98 - very few people knew about the missile strike beforehand.
Did we have contingency plans with the UK for Afghanistan?

Tom: we have worked with the UK a great deal in the past. Note: while Tom stated we
have a long history working with the UK military, he did not specifically say we had
worked with them on contingency plans for Afghanistan.
Communication between the White House and Pentagon is pretty bad sometimes.
While the NSC advises the president, to second guess the CINCs is very unusual. As
noted, it is hard for civilians to assess large operations and plans.
CENTCOM is an army-dominated command, so it is not surprising their options were

land-heavy.
Lessons Learned
What are the lessons?
Dave: should have invested more in threat assessment. More HUMINT. How has intelligence
changed to ensure the right people have the right information?
There was a failure of the government to understand the threat prior to the attack. What
resources were devoted to learning more about this threat at the time? Was there resistance to
understanding the threat? Where did this resistance come from and what lied behind this
resistance? This is really an inside the beltway issue.
Tom: should have had more interactions with guard, reserves, state and local 1st
responders. Should have focused on communications, training, equipment, and other
difficulties.
What did the military do well?

Tom: Engagement in the region. There was great payoff for the small investment of
engagement in Uzbekistan and the low level ties to other Central Asian states, which
allowed us to establish relationships. This paid off even though the Clinton
administration was criticized for these engagement efforts. The military to military
contacts were useful. There were exercises carried out by the military (CINCENT's
regional strategy) in Central Asia and Pakistan in the '90s. The intelligence community is
now much better focused to support the combatant commander. It was an important part
of the earlier regional strategy. This was immensely helpful when we were trying to get
troops into the region.
Future Interview Recommendation

Recommends talking to Ed O'Connell at RAND who did targeting at CENTCOM (regarding
DoD's ability to go after novel threats, going after high-value targets, targeting for OEF2,
etc).
My questions:
1. Was there or was there not something on the shelf?
2. Where did the communication gap occur? Principals, CINCs? Why was Afghanistan
a "backwater" issue when the President, Clark and Tenet kept saying terrorism was so
important and were asking for military options?
3. More information on JSOC's position on these issues.
4. Did the military just not want to engage?
- what are the real underlying reasons for this lack of desire to engage or to be
creative in developing plans despite the request to do so.
5. Are we wrong? Did the military really provide the best options? Was the intelligence
simply not adequate for the warfighter?
6. How can I get access to the "plan" that was on the shelf?
7. What about the USAF plans referred to (more information needed)?
2 Operation Enduring Freedom.

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In response to the November 5, 2003 request of Vice Chairman Lee

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Navy submitted 110 pages of materials responsive to

NORAD reports delivered: 7/25.

Site-R After Action reports delivered 8/8.

Additional JCS item as of 7/31: JCS Historian

JFCOM: Received by Joint Staff on 7/29. Need to

NSA reports compiled. Access granted to Commission

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USUHS: Submitted 15 AARs relevant to this request.

NORAD re-tasked. Checking for Col Scott/ 1st

Negative replies: DIA, USMC.

Defensive Initiative Report delivered 8/1 .

August 25, 2003

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Met w/Commission staff (Mr. Dunne, Mr. Shaeffer), NHC,

E-mail reminder to all historians (8/12) -- due date 8/13.

August 25, 2003

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8/18-22: Received historian priority lists from NHC, USMC

Draft of NHC Transcript will be delivered to document

Provided overall status update to Kevin Shaeffer via phone

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3,2nd DIA delivered second supplement to document processing

August 25, 2003

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