5 Reasons Why Every Man Needs Partner Dancing

By Samseau Partner dancing can be found in almost every major city. The dances and styles vary, but most cities have one of the follow three types of partner dancing:

Salsa/Bachatta (almost impossible to go to a Salsa dance without Bachatta being played) Swing Tango

In any major city, one or two of these types of dances will be popular enough to use as a springboard to meet women. Why should a man care? Here are 5 reasons: 1. He likes having sex with women much younger than he is. Many partner dancing venues do not serve alcohol. Do the math. When are women in their prime? Combined with the love women have for dancing, these non-alcoholic venues end up with a large pool of young women. Places that serve alcohol tend to be more club like, which isnt always an advantage. The women are older yet just as slutty as they were during their college years, so these clubs can be fruitful. But older girls arent as satisfying, and club environments tend to produce lots of bitch-shield type behaviors from women you approach. Older women still frequent non-alcoholic venues, but they usually dance with much older men. Its kind of funny to watch 50 year old men pick up women in their 30s, but for all I know Ill be doing the same thing someday. 2. He likes to date women hotter than he is. How far can dancing game go? You tell me.

Ramona Staffeld & John Lindo NADC 2004

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But surely, you think, this is just dancing. Its not like hes banging her. She isnt actually attracted to this fat bastard, is she?

Forward to 2:00:

MADjam08 Invitational J&J Allskate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=makFLJ75eY
Maybe hes just a beta at heart who doesnt really try to get laid very often. But if he wanted to, he could. 3. He hates dealing with cockblockers. Many women travel to these events alone. Dancing requires a carefree attitude thats hard to fake. One truly cannot be afraid of being judged by onlookers, or by the dance partner, on his dance moves; all insecurities must be removed. Most men, and most women, have a lot of trouble doing this. Thus the women who tend to partner dancing scenes usually are the adventurous, free-spirited types that do things solo. Id say the ratio is 40% single, 25% couples, and 35% groups, but these girls in groups can easily be separated from each other as guys ask them to dances. Then its just you and her. Getting her out of the venue is easy if she came by herself, and if she came with friends shell go tell them, provided youve swooped her well enough, Hes safe, and her friends wont judge or care if she leaves with you. 4. He likes to date outside of his race. E.g.:

The Rhythm Is Jumpin 2011 - Rising Star Invitational J&J - Jamin

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With those skills this black dude could smash more white birds than most white dudes ever could. By targeting specific types of dances, a man can target different demographics of women. Do some research to find the kind of women youre interested in. E.g. Salsa for Latin/Asian

girls, tango in Japan, swing for Jewish/white girls, etc. My most exotic notch right now is an Armenian notch. 5. Fat chicks disgust him, and he doesnt ever want to be fat himself. Most fatties dont think about going to a venue where they have to physically exert themselves for a few hours as a good time. The women at dance venues arent always lookers, but less than 10% of the women at my dance venues are overweight (always go to venues where young girls are. Duh). And I know these girls are getting a good workout, because I know I am too. Compared to most bars and clubs, dancing venues blow away the competition in terms of quality. One hour of dancing is at least as rigorous as one hour of jogging. Dancing is an easy way to do a cardio routine. Instead of running on some dirt path or a treadmill, you can be holding a girl 8 years younger than you while she laughs and squeals as you burn calories. 6. Dance game is the ultimate back burner game. A man doesnt need to be a professional dancer to benefit from dancing. After the initial month or so it takes to learn the basics of the dance, he needs to practice his new dance once or twice a week to continue to improve. A typical dance lasts 1-2 hours. Thats 2-4 hours a week. As he improves his dance skills, his ability to pull will also improve. As he goes to dances, he will keep himself in shape and healthy. He will have access to fit, young women. All for 2-4 hours per week. Its so easy to maintain and make a habit out of, that it leaves lot of free time open for a man to pursue his own interests outside of getting laid, which in turn keeps the game from becoming stale. Dancing game is easy, and best, to do in moderation, which means any man can keep it up indefinitely. As an experienced player, youll see dance game as one of the best avenues to score. Read Next: Dance Floor Game Using Music to Get Laid

Dance Floor Game using music to get laid

By Samseu. http://www.rooshvforum.com Table of Contents I. Introduction II. Playing on the Floor III. Closing IV. Misc

I. Introduction
I was never a good dancer growing up. I never took classes or understood what dancing was. I skipped my high school prom (but I attended the second one because the first one was called off by a bomb threat and a friend hooked me up with a blind date for the second one (yes she was fat and yes it was terrible)). To me dancing was just moving around erratically, holding the attention of everyone in the room, placing yourself in situations where it seemed like your performance was being judged; by any rational measure, dancing was for retards. And yet I now find myself possessing a notch count consisting of many dance floor lays, with the realization there are not many things more pleasurable than dancing with a beautiful girl. The Dionysian rush of music, alcohol, and hormones provides a fun and reliable method of meeting future sex partners that satisfies both my libido and logos. So Id like to share what I think is good dance floor game.

What is Dancing? Dancing is nothing more than the art of matching body language to music. The earliest civilizations recorded show song and dance were a part of everyday life, serving almost any purpose; such as funerals, war dances, celebrations, religious ceremonies, and mating rituals. Dance has been a universal feature of all human tribes and cultures throughout history. It is completely reasonable to assume that dancing has been part of human existence for much longer than what the written word has survived to tell us. This supports the thesis of dancing as an evolved mechanism connected to the core emotional and linguistical processes of a human being. Im sure the best answer to the question of What is Dancing? would be able to answer the following questions as well: What is speech? What is thought? What are emotions? What is

language? All of these functions are fundamentally tied and if one could figure out the proper answer to any of these questions, they would also have the answer to dance.

Why Dance? For the same reason any man learns game. Dancing is just another subset of game; similar to how you talk to her, how you dress for her, and how you treat her on a date. Learning to dance can also be frustrating as hell, just like all the other aforementioned games. However, dancing skills hold a special niche in the gaming quiver. You dont need to be the greatest dancer alive. You dont need to be good looking. In fact, good dancing will circumvent bad looks for almost any man. Unlike talking to girls, which is often boring and painful due to the average girl being as interesting as a doorknob, dancing is fun, playful, and exciting. Dancing provides an avenue of seducing girls beyond your normal caliber as well, which brings us to the greatest part of dancing: Beautiful girls enjoy dancing. The majority (70%+) of boner inducing girls (6s and up) will go out to dance clubs from time to time in order to soak up attention and glorify the most valuable possession she has: her body. Hell, even most ugly girls like to dance. Ask any person over the age of 30: Do girls like to dance? I will buy you a drink if they say no (seriously). And despite this common knowledge that girls love to dance, most men are terrible dancers, if they dance at all. Dancing also involves high energy music that is great to listen to for its own sake. If you enjoy music, dancing will place you in situations where you listen to lots of music. Therefore, you should dance floor game if you enjoy music and want to increase your odds of banging attractive girls.

II. Playing on the Floor

Unlike for men, dancing is an instinctive feeling that comes to girls in the throng of a throbbing crowd moving to roaring music. A females experience with dancing is completely different from a males experience. Men naively see dancing in terms of its social functions; its use in acquiring things (popularity, girls, attention, etc.) or enjoying music with many other people. Girls view dancing as a self-glorification of their body, the most valuable thing they have to offer. As a girl expresses herself to music she literally places her sexual appeal on display, her beauty serving as an enhancement to the overall aesthetic experience. Girls are absorbed into music like men are absorbed into hobbies: each behaves with the act as a purpose in itself.

Your goal as a man, should you seek to score on the dance floor, is to enhance the current aesthetic feeling a girl is part of. To do this, you must direct her body to move to the music in ways she never imagined; the girl must follow a mans lead to new aesthetic and erotic experiences. When a man makes a girl feel captivated by his presence, it is said that a man has a strong connection with her. This is what you want. If you can build a good connection with a girl, it is much easier to move her to more intimate locations. But before we get into the intricacies of building a good connection, lets start with the basics.

Two Uses of Dance Game 1. Talking to a girl, and then dancing with her. 2. Dancing with a girl, and then talking to her. The order is extremely important. If you talk to a girl before dancing with her, you arent doing dance floor game. You are merely using dancing to create attraction and desire between both of you, something I encourage anyone who has the option of a dance floor available to them. I often pick up girls with talking and move to dancing to make her hot for me. I always manage to use some form of dance if it is available, since I know I have the skills to really impress her and improve my odds of seeing her again or bang me that night. So far, all of my night game lays have involved dancing. For the purposes of this guide, I am not going to be talking much about the first use of dance game. This is because proper dance floor game occurs in loud clubs where music is being pumped in at all directions and the only purpose of going there is to dance. Talking is basically not an option because everything is so loud that the only person you can talk to is within a few feet of your immediate vicinity. I admit talking game is king. The trick is to find venues where talking is not very practical, so that dance floor game supersedes talking game. There are four types of venues: bars without dance floors, bars with dance floors, clubs with dance floors, and dance clubs which are 70%+ dance floor with very little possibility for talking that also have bars to serve alcohol. My focus is the latter category.

What Makes a Dance Club? Any dance club you attend must pass the following prerequisites: - Good DJs - A small to medium cover charge

- Nowhere to escape the music Do not go to non-dance clubs, which usually have high cover charges over $10 and areas divided between the dance floor and bar. You want some kind of cover charge to keep out roving packs of dudes who would go there just to hang out and listen to music. Additionally, dance clubs have an added advantage of scaring away men who cannot dance. In spite of these advantages, there will still be nights with a greater male to female ratio. Do not try to use dance floor game in any club or bar that plays shit songs like this:

or lame rap tracks that put you to sleep:

or just about any 80s hit (Like a Prayer, anyone?). If the DJ is playing well known crowd pleasers, and not mixing songs together, you arent in a dance club. If the DJ sounds like he could be playing the radio, you arent in a dance club. If you are in a dance club, you hear songs like this:

mixed with songs like this:

Or maybe the beat from this track: UNAVAILABLE

mixed with the lyrics from this:

with a transition into the next track that sounds like:

Understand that my taste in music is not what you need. You can be at a salsa dance club, or a swing dance club, or a hip hop club, etc. That is irrelevant. What you need is a dance club that plays interesting music with lots of variations in the rhythm and song structure. Without this, its impossible to show off fun dance moves that separates you from anyone else in the crowd. You need innovative DJs that let your express your creativity, or else its just going be a lame hump

and grind mosh pit that only the tallest meatheads will stand out in. Your dancing is limited by the music given to you. Dont waste any time in awful venues, do your homework and find the best ones that match the criteria I listed above. In the Club The average guy at a dance club has nothing to offer to the dance floor. Hes unable to contribute to the atmosphere so that more people would come in and dance with him. Of the men with poor vibes, most are wallflowers; some are pillars that just stand around the dance floor giving a girl an occasional grind; and a still smaller, and sorrier, pool of select individuals have the honor of being the creepy dancer all the girls avoid. Then there are the men who get how to vibe to a dance club. Of these men, some use the connection they build with girls on the dance floor to build a connection with her off the dance floor in order to sex her. These are the men with dance floor game. These are the kind of men who can swoop a girl two hours after meeting her, who overcome most shortcomings with crazy dance moves that leave a girl spinning and asking, Who was that? In order to be this kind of dancer, you need to be able to vibe to the feeling of the club, and then use this vibe to approach girls, whether they are alone or in tightly knit groups, dance with them in a manner that gets them very interested in you, and then close them.

Vibing Sounds like a chapter out of Bang, doesnt it? Vibing in a dance club is nothing more than the ability to understand the music and move your body in accordance with the rhythm and beat of the music. Before I approach any girls in a dance club, I will be leaning against a bar, sipping my drink and moving my body in subtle ways to the music. As girls buy their drinks Ill chat up a few of them and maintain composure. Taking the time to match the rest of the dance clubs vibe ensures my dancing has a powerful delivery, and avoiding bad moves later in the night. I think it is very important to show up at least one hour before things become crazy in the club or else you will not be able to approach girls as effectively. Its also very possible that talking to a girl early on in the night could turn into your lay, but in general I find dance clubs to be poor venues for talking game due to the high energy of the crowd and loud music. Even still, if a conversation is going smooth, just take her to the dance floor and show her a good time. A man with a good vibe feels the music move through him, and becomes an expression of the music itself. By his vibe you can clearly tell he is enjoying himself, happy to communicate the music through his motions, directly enhancing the aesthetic atmosphere of the venue and drawing

women into his world. Developing a good dance vibe is the most important thing to do if you want to pull girls off the dance floor. Unfortunately, if you are new to dancing, developing this vibe is the most difficult part of dance floor game. It can only be learned though a subconscious absorption that comes with many nights (a small estimate: 40+ nights) of dancing. Experienced dancers can quickly feel out the vibe of any given dance music and are able to synchronize themselves into a crowd effortlessly, but it requires great skill to pull off.

Learning to Vibe In order to learn how to vibe, it is recommended that you do two things: 1. Learn structured dances. 2. Dance on your own. To give an example, I learned how to vibe by going out to dance clubs with the simple opener of Hey I like your energy. Lets dance. Id say 9 out of 10 girls rejected me on this approach, but when I got an okay from a girl, Id proceed to rub against her for a few minutes before the she excused herself to do something else. But after a couple of months with zero results I decided to change my dance a little bit: Id move my shoulders to the beat of the music as I grinded to her. And she danced with me for a little bit longer. Then Id try moving up and down to the music, while running my hands up alongside her body. Soon I was twirling the girl around so instead of her grinding me in the same direction all the time, I would grind her ass, then her crotch, then her ass, etc. I soon combined these moves with slight variations. Based on how girls would respond to me, I would change my dance moves accordingly. As I became more confident with my vibing ability, I decided to take swing dancing lessons to see if I would do well there. Although swing dancing was fun, the partner dancing moves I learned there was the real value from the classes. I recommend for any man aspiring to seduce girls through dance moves to take two months of a structured dance just so he can incorporate some of its style into his own. But dont waste your time trying to be the best swing, ballroom, or salsa dancer. Being the best at a structured dance takes years, and only yields mediocre pussy of pedantic girls who are obsessed with that one type of dance. As Bruce Lee mixed and combined various martial art forms, you too should be creating your own dance style learned from as many genres of dancing as possible. This will yield faster results and more control over when and where you can dance, which will mean more and better quality girls in the long run. Your target girl is one who isnt too amazing of a dancer herself, but someone who may have

taken a few classes in her lifetime and likes to dance for its own sake. A girl whos an expert dancer usually will not be impressed if you do not match her preconceived notions of what good dancing is, while a girl with no experience in dancing will be impossible to lead. You want a girl whos danced enough to follow your moves, as this type of woman is the most seducible. Ideally you want to be able to show her some moves shes never seen before and create a strong first impression. Learning to dance is no different than learning how to talk to a girl. Just as there are certain conversational techniques that produce sexual outcomes when talking to a girl, there are certain movement techniques that produce sexual outcomes when dancing with a girl. And to figure out these moves through trial and error is pretty much the only way, but you can have a huge head start by taking partner dancing classes. So vibing is learned through hard experience and the learning curve can be greatly reduced by taking lessons.

Moving Around, and Approaching Once the club heats up, and you see somewhere around 50% of the people inside start to dance, its time to finish your drink, say goodbye to your buddy/buddies (if you went with any), and move through the crowds to find your lucky girl. By this point your vibe should be on frequency, and dancing to the music should be come naturally to you as the DJ lays out some tracks. As soon as you leave your post at the bar, you should be solo dancing to the music. If you need inspiration for your solo dancing ability, watch break dancers or the guy in this video: (See 48 seconds and 3:07 for amazing footwork) It can be difficult to break out hot dancing when there are people from wall to wall, but just be mindful of who is around you and bust those moves out, baby. You dont need to be too impressive; you just want to be eye catching enough that any girl who sees you will think Hes pretty good. If you get stuck behind a group of people who arent letting you move, simply place your hand on their upper back, right below their shoulder, while moving forward and they will move. If you want to be polite, you can say pardon me or excuse me as you pass by. I dont know why this technique is so damn effective but it gets people to move 99% of the time, even giant monster steroid fiends. Ive been using it for years. While you gently push through crowds, keep an eye open for attractive girls. If the girl seems to be even remotely separated, shes game. This basically means shes by herself and willing to dance. The opposite is when girls form a tight circle, usually with birthday or bachelorette parties, to shut out the rest of the club. You can break into these circles but first lets talk about how to approach single girls.

Lone Girls Whenever I see a man run up to a girl and start grinding, I just shake my head. The approach to a girl should always be head on, unless her back is turned and seems preoccupied with something else. Just poke her on the shoulder to get her to face you, or wait for her to turn around. If shes facing you, start dancing with a bit more energy, but not too much, and see if she feels your vibe or not. There will be a number of indicators to show you should go for her hand: - She starts dancing with some more energy of her own - She locks eye contact - She steps towards you - She smiles If she turns her back to you, theres a 65% chance shes not interested but dont let it discourage you. Take a step back from her and observe if there are other girls nearby to approach. Approach them and if they arent any good come back to the girl who turned her back on you and gently go for her hand anyways. The idea is to go back to girls who reject you and see if theyve changed their mind. When asking for a girls hand, be creative. Sometimes I hold my hand in front of her, palm up, as if Im expecting her to put her hand in mine. Other times I just grab it from below. Still other times Ill put my hand out, pull it away, put it out again, and just when shes about to put her hand in my Ill circle my hand around hers before going to my next move. All of this depends on what Im feeling and how Im dancing. Once you have her hand, give her a twirl. LOL THIS IS THE TWIRL TEST!!!1 If she twirls enthusiastically, shes cooperative to your lead and is amicable to building a connection with you. The PUAs like to call this a compliance test, but in dancing terms were going to see if she can follow your vibe. If she doesnt twirl, take it as a huge warning sign and step back from her. Do a little bit of solo dancing in front of her to see if she vibes along with you at all, and then try to do the twirl again. If she still doesnt spin, guess what: you will never bang her. Dont be fooled into thinking that just because you dance with a girl youre even close to getting in her pants. You need to see if she can follow you, or else there will never be any sex. Should she fail to twirl after your second attempt, keep dancing with her while looking for new girls. Usually, at a dance club, I can manage to have a good dance with a girl for every 3 approaches and a full 80% of women will give me some kind of dance, even if its a shitty one. It took me a long time to get here, around one year of practice, so be prepared for many (at least 500?) rejections. Its just a matter of making sure you dont give a rats ass about what happens. However, you must remember to use your rejections to your advantage. To understand why you need to know the

concept of preselection bouncing.

Preselection Bounce, and Handling Rejection Preselection is the idea from evolutionary psychology that women desire men who are desired by other women. Preselection bouncing applies this concept directly to dancing: it is when you hop from one girl on the dance floor to the next. It works because if girls in the vicinity see you dancing with one girl, they will be more open to dancing with you. But this is only true if the girl you are dancing with is really enjoying her dance with you. If shes laughing and all over you, its very easy to start dancing with another girl: just use the momentum from girl A to power into girl B. This usually means you are ending the dance prematurely with girl A, so its only a move to do when you are with a girl you know you will never bang. In other words, theres no real connection between you and the girl youre dancing with, or you are uninterested in her. So use dead end girls as a pawn to your queen. To take advantage of a rejection with a preselection bounce, continue to solo dance in front of her without touching her, and do your best to get her more involved with you. Usually girls love to dance so much that they will at least give you some of their attention. Many girls who will not let you twirl them will still grind with you also, so these girls are also able to make you look desirable on the dance floor. Just remember that her grinding on you means shit, and that unless theres a genuine dance connection with her you will never bang her. So capitalizing on the girls who have no possibility of giving you sex is important to make sure you can move seamlessly through the club. Make sure you leave her first and not let her turn her back to you instead. If, at any time, a woman harshly rejects you and refuses to even look to your way, or shakes her head at you when you try to take her hand, you want to act like youre the one rejecting her. To do this, just hold your hand in front of to her face with the halt motion, as in the Talk to the hand because the face doesnt understand middle-school thing. I dont know why this works, but sometimes girls will feel the need to revalidate themselves to your move and then proceed to dance with you. Additionally, other observers will think shes the weird one and youre getting rid of her. You wont be able to bang these girls but at least you can use them to bounce to another girl. Another type of rejection is when girls say Im/Were just here with my friends, to which I always reply, What, you guys dont know how to dance? and start dancing with them anyways, including going for her hand. Unless the girl physically moves away, ignore all shit tests and dance. Preselection bouncing also means you will have to dance with some ugly girls from time to time, as it just isnt possible to dance with only pretty girls and still manage to hop from girl to girl. You will run into some fat chicks or girls with busted faces, but dance with them anyways and show them a good time. After all, ugly girls have souls too (I think). Just give them a quick twirl or two and be on

your way.

Groups of Girls If it is a tight group of two girls, dance with them both before singling one out for some more involved dancing. The same goes for groups of three; try to dance with them all by giving each one a twirl, and then single out one as your target. To approach groups of four or more, a little more strategy is required. You want to have danced with some solo girls before hitting a large group, but this isnt always possible if the club happens to be filled with girls night out parties. Sometimes, although thankfully infrequently, there are wall to wall birthday and bachelorette parties, and your first approach must be on the group. Regardless of your preselection value, the #1 rule of groups is to dance with the group leader first. Usually this is the prettiest, oldest, the birthday or soon-to-be bride bachelorette girl, and if you can make her have fun the rest of the group will be open to your advances. It can take some balls to get to the point where you can approach the hottest girl in the room/group, but just remember shes another piece of pussy on the dance floor that hasnt shown any sort of importance to your life and you should treat her as such. The problem with dancing with the group leader is that you will not always have her attention right away, and a direct approach to her will usually result in rejection due to her perceived superiority relative to everyone else around her. She might also be on the other side of the groups circle from where you are and theres no easy way to get to her. The best way to break into a group, for 80% of situations, is to walk directly into the circle and solo dance in the middle to hold their attention before grabbing the group leaders hand for a dance. Below is a visualization of what I am talking about:

The green dot is you, and the leader of the pink circle of girls is identified. Youve turned your back to the ugly girl by herself and are looking at the group of circles in the center of the room. You need to dance with the leader before you can dance with any of the other girls in the group, so you must show your alpha acumen by walking right into the middle of them for their judgment. A

lot of the time girls are impressed enough by the balls to do such a move, but if you can actually dance well they will be cheering and laughing at your moves. Be provocative with your moves and after holding the groups attention for 30 seconds to 1 minute, go for the group leaders hand. Pull her right into the middle of the group as you dance with her, and show everyone what a capable dancer you are. Sometimes you will be able to dance with group leader without having to solo dance for the entire group, just by catching her from the side and starting to dance with her. If you can do this then you are also golden. Once you win approval from a group leader, proceed to move onto other targets and see if any of the other girls have a connection with you. Usually the leader of the group, although she might be the hottest, is a poor prospect to game because of her superiority complex. Still if you have a good connection with the leader then proceed to game her anyways. The exception to this rule is if the group leader is the bachelorette or birthday girl, as everyone in the group will cockblock you should you try to go after her. If the leader of the group rejects you, then just move away from the group because there is no way youll dance with any other group member. Ignore them all and go for other girls.

Therefore So, in summary, a good approaching game would be you moving through the club towards attractive girls by becoming a dancing machine, leap-frogging your way through the girls and crowd via the preselection bounce. Note that preselection bouncing is unnecessary in certain dance venues where there is an expectation of girls dancing with you no matter what, such as at a swing, ballroom, or salsa event. Bouncing is for clubs where girls are more likely to reject a man than they are to dance with him.

III. Closing
Lets face it. The whole point of dancing with girls is to find a way to bang them. After all, while dancing might be pleasurable in itself, sex is still the ultimate release. The goal of closing a dance is to move her into what Mystery called the comfort stage of the seduction, that is, where you can talk to her without any distractions. This will help her feel very trusting with you so you can bang her later. Once you get how to vibe to music, this is the most difficult part to master.

Building a Connection

So, youve got a girl who took your twirl and gives eye contact. You pull her in close and place your right hand on her hip and the left holding her right hand. Before twirling her away, you smile, releasing her hip and holding onto her hand to display some solo moves before twirling yourself into her. Once up against her you give her a half-twirl so her back is against you while you grind her up before finishing with an out-twirl again. You then separate yourself from her and let go of her hand to do some solo moves in front of her before extending your hand with the expectation she will grab it again. Once she does, you pull her in for a dip to the left side of your body while she wraps her arms around your neck and grips your body tightly. Raising her back up with another twirl, you run her hand down the side of her body and crouch low enough to bring your face in between her breasts before standing back up. Afterwards you gently push her away by the center of her chest and do a double-twirl, so you both twirl at the same time, and finish with both your hands on her hips so she can grind up and down you. She loves it, and so do you. She moves down lower on you, and when she rises back up the side of her head is pressed against yours. Her cheeks are warm against your face. You take her chin and pull her in for a kiss, but are denied. Unfazed you give her a dip in the opposite direction you dipped before while lifting her right leg in your left hand. She lets out a gasp as you pull her back up while your body is facing her sideways. She tries to grind against you but you circle around her with some fancy footwork and then twirl her in close to you again while you put a hand behind her neck and to go for a second kiss attempt. She gently turns her head to the right but this means nothing to you because you know shes getting hotter by the second. You then do another half-twirl and place one hand over her lower stomach and the other alongside her breast while she grinds her ass against you. You hear a crescendo build up in the music you are listening to, so you turn her around to face you and then wrap your arms right below her buttocks and pick up into the air. She spreads her legs around your waist and grips tight as you lean down a bit while spinning counterclockwise. You place her down with a twirl and step in for a reciprocated kiss. Youve successfully built a connection. Building a connection comes down to how well you can lead her, and how well she responds to your lead. The more synchronized your dance moves are with the music, and the more varied your moves are, the better a girl will connect to you. As she feels your vibe, she will grow physically more interested in you, which you must capitalize upon by landing a kiss. The kiss determines if she accepts your dominance as a man, and as the above example shows, Ive kissed girls without ever talking to them. Ive fucked girls without exchanging names!

Keep in mind that some girls will be easier to build a connection with than others. Dancing, at the end of the day, is still a numbers game, because some girls will feel an instant connection to you while others think you are a total weirdo. The natural variation women have towards you will be very apparent when you notice that some girls love dancing with you and others will not even look at you. The game is still the game. Remember, just because youve built a good connection on the dance floor means nothing if you do not use this momentum to talk to her, preferably somewhere a lot quieter. But to do this, you want talk to her as you dance with her. I do not recommend talking to a girl until after youve kissed her, or until shes started to talk to you, or until youve been dancing with her for over fifteen minutes. I usually wait as long as possible to see if she talks to me first, which often happens within a few minutes, in order to determine if her interest in me is sufficient to warrant my pursuit of her.

Talking on the Floor Dance floor conversations are very different from regular conversations. Because the music is so loud, your conversations cannot be intellectual or complicated, they cannot have sarcastic humor, they cannot be about topics that are too serious or exciting. They should be simple, direct, and have light humor. A good rule of the thumb is that you talk to a girl on the dance floor like you would text her, at least at first. For example, a girl Ive been dancing with but have not kissed yet leans in close to my ear and asks for my name. Im Samseau. Whats your name? Im Erica. Nice to meet you, Erica. You from around here? (Note that if I had started the conversation, I would ask if shes from around here. Asking Where are you from? is perhaps the best opener to have with a girl on the floor, because it tells you so much about them with few words exchanged.) Yeah I live in XYZ. <make some comment about where shes from> <she willfully responds, then returns the question:> Are you from around here? No, Im from ZYX. What brings you to the city? Same reason it brought you here. *she smiles+ Yeah, I know what you mean. At this point in the conversation, now is a good time to tell her a story about some place youve been, or to talk about the scene youre in, etc. Afterwards keep dancing with her and go for a kiss. But keep the conversation short, and each sentence under ten words. See Bang for possible conversation threads.

Handling her Friends It can be very difficult to kiss a girl when shes around her friends. Fortunately, women will often let their friend become isolated with you once they see shes enjoying herself with you. Her friend will mysteriously disappear, probably to dance with a man of her own. However, this also means your interaction is on a short timeline. Once a girl becomes separated from her friends, it will be

inevitable that she will want to go and find her friends. So when youve got her isolated in the crowd, you need to move fast and go for the kiss.

The Cockblocker The opposite of when a friend leaves you alone is when she cockblocks you. Instead of giving you and her friend some privacy, she will instead try to dance between you two, or pull her away from you. The best way to handle cockblocks is with prevention. If you see her friend staring at you or looking pissed off, ask the girl youre dancing with So what does your friend think of me right now? If the girl youre dancing with says anything that isnt a positive assessment of you, such as I dont know, you want to step towards the potential cockblocker and start dancing with her, just to show her that youre a fun guy who can be trusted. After giving her a few twirls and maybe a dip, Ill move back to her friend who was the original goal. The threat of cockblock is diminished after this.

What if I Cant Isolate her? If her friends never leave, because it is a birthday or bachelorette party, or some other reason, you will have to be a douche-bag and just go for a kiss even if it means she feels a bit like a dirty slut for having a make-out with a stranger in a dance club. But, once you get the kiss and her friends are around, do not go for it again. One kiss is all the info you need, so keep it smooth, playa. Even with a girl who is isolated I will not kiss on more than three separate occasions. For 80% of situations, it is better to kiss less, not more. This is doubly true if shes around her friends. One kiss around her friends and she feels the shame, two kisses and she must reject you to save her reputation with her girlfriends. One or two kisses are all you need to get the bang, so I usually never go above that unless the girl Im with is having a blast and Im really enjoying her company.

I Kissed her. That Means Ill Bang herNOT! Kissing a girl today in America means nothing. Ive made out with over seven times as many girls Ive banged. At one point it was getting so bad that I forced myself to stop making out with girls because I realized that kissing was counter-productive to getting laid. I made this meme in honor of sloppy make-outs:

Three Types of Closes 1. Venue Change 2. Outside Pull 3. Number Close Always start with the first and work you way down to the third. Getting a girl out of a club to talk with you is extremely difficult. If shes around her friends moving her outside can be a herculean task. But regardless you should try if the connection is strong. For example, after youve danced with her for twenty minutes and scored a kiss, and had a good 510 min conversation on the dance floor, you want to move her to another location. You know Ive enjoyed dancing with you but its difficult to talk in here. Theres a small bar across the street where we can talk without yelling. Lets go there. If she doesnt accept, simply say Well I need to cool off lets go outside. (If you smoke, heres

the line where you ask her to join you for a smoke.) If she still doesnt accept, its time to reject her. It can be difficult to reject a girl after youve put in so effort, so the best way to reject a girl is with a number close. Say Okay I understand but Im still going outside to cool down. Give me your number and we can meet another time. After she gives you her number, dial it in and let it ring a few times. Then say Text me so I know you got my number and walk outside. Wait a few minutes, and then go back inside and continue dancing with new girls. This number close is an amazing way to screen out flakes. If shes into you, she will text you. This ensures that girls you get rid of through a number close still have the opportunity to demonstrate their interest to you. If a girl youve kissed but refused to venue change or walk outside texts you after getting your number, then Id say its still worth taking her out for a date. This number close is also useful for another type of situation. Lets say youve been dancing with her, and she says Hey I need to get back with my friends, it was nice dancing with you, or Hey I need to go to the bathroom, or some other reason to leave you, do not think for a second she will ever come back after doing whatever she claims to be doing. These are generally rejection moves girls use to avoid bruising a mans ego. However, if Ive been having a very good dance with the girl, and weve kissed, then I will still say to her Hold on, give me your number before you go, and follow it up with Text me so I know you got my number. Theres a low chance of success with this girl but she may end up being a winner. If you want, a few days later you can text the girls who dont text you back. But I will make a prediction: less than 5% of the girls who do not text you back will ever respond to your texts. If all you can do is move her outside, then proceed to game her like youve moved her to another venue, but be quick as a girl will usually only stay outside with you for 5-10 minutes. Hopefully youve taken my advice and kissed her before youve gotten her outside so you can work on logistics to see if you can bang her that night. If it doesnt look like a possibility, number close her but dont ask her to text you. If shes interested shell text you. If you do manage to get her to another venue or outside, then youre all set. Now its just regular talking game and you can start off the conversation with any of your normal routines or topics that you would run on a girl if you were to meet her anywhere else. You were having the third most fun tonight out of the girls Ive danced with, or You were the third best dancer Ive seen tonight, or Youre the third best girl Ive danced with tonight, is a fun way to start a conversation with her. At the other bar you can choose to buy her a drink if you really want to, but usually Im so tired from all the dancing that I just order some water. If things go well at the new venue or outside, try to go for a same night lay. Offer her some drinks at your place but I have to be up early. Or see if she needs a ride home and offer to give her one. Stuff like that. Usually, if you can get her to move to another venue, you have very high odds of

seeing her again for at least a date. Concluding Thoughts Dance floor game is only meant to be an alternative to regular talking night game. It isnt any particularly more effective than other types of game, but it has major perks in the higher quality of women and adrenaline pumping environment. I personally love dancing because I find it much more fun than talking to the average girl who has nothing interesting to say or a sense of humor that couldnt make a toddler laugh. I think its easier to find the motivation to pursue a girl once youve had a good dance with her. Notice that my entire game is built around moving a serious volume of women; you should be dancing with 20+ girls each time you go out, easily. Either you find a girl to bang for the night (rare) or have 2-5 kisses with 1-3 number closes (common). More often than not logistics make it impossible to meet up with some girls that you kiss. Dance floor game is the opposite of talking game because you start with physical attraction compatibility, and then move to emotional compatibility. This process may not be for everyone but I think if youre a young guy, under the age of 25, you owe it to yourself to hit the dance floor for a few months and see if youve got any talent, for it could quickly translate into a new avenue of poon. Ive seen guys who got good in their twenties continue to swoop young girls right through their thirties and early forties.

IV. Misc
This section is for subjects that didnt properly fit into the organizational structure of the game plan above.

Menstrual Cycle Girls seem to go out to dance clubs when ovulating. The amount of times where I meet a girl in a club and the next week I see her shes on her period and Ive seen the evidence to confirm they were, in fact, on their period has happened too many times to be a coincidence. I remember one girl I had a two week fling with was on her period the second time I saw her. Three weeks after that, I saw her go out dancing in search of new cock exactly four weeks after I initially banged her! This seems to match the theory that women ovulating go out to look for an alpha fucking, but the flip side of this coin is that when they are menstruating they prefer beta cuddling. This can be a problem because if you fail to bang a girl within 4-7 days of meeting her at a dance

club, shell be menstruating and her sex drive will be greatly diminished. So, for example, say you meet her on a Thursday night but do not take her out till next Tuesday or Wednesday, there is a good chance shell be menstruating. She will be moody and less horny. So always try to move fast with these dancing girls as the window for opportunity tends to be short. Once you fuck her the first time her period shouldnt be an issue for future fucks.

Lifting If you are an avid lifter with some muscles to show for it, dancing game is a fantastic way to display your hard work in a non-bragging manner. When she feels the tautness of your skin against your bulging chest and biceps, she will feel much more attracted to you. With strength youll also be able to move her around easier on the floor for big moves like dips and lifts, giving her a sense of security that your power provides. Lifting complements dancing like lifting complements beach game.

Shoes Dont wear nice shoes if its a crowded dance club, which it should be if you want to increase the odds of a bang, because they will get destroyed. My $40 Converse sneakers are completely trashed after a few months of dancing so theres no way Id go in with my $100 Bostonians.

Ear Plugs Many nights of loud dance music can seriously destroy your hearing. I recommend buying some inconspicuous earplugs that you can put on once in the club. Find some small plugs that no one will notice in the darkness.

Flakes and Game-playing You can make out with a girl, she will be all over you, and she will text you back but still evade you. Sat, 10:55am Hello! We met at club thurs, danced together. I like your style, we should def dance again sometime!! Jana Sat, 2:36pm hey jana glad you had fun, we should meet again sometime mon any good? Sat, 2:39pm I have 11 hr shift Monday so that is not good for me. Every day is busy next week but

perhaps theres a time. We had so much fun dancing, we didnt want to leave! Theres no way for me to follow this up with any future dates, and she leaves the possibility of meeting up squarely in her power. This shit happens all the time, so always assume shes a flake. That way you can feel pleasantly surprised when you meet up with her again. I also avoid meeting girls at clubs again. If you cant get a one-night stand the first time, dont expect anything different to happen the next time you see her out on the town. Just go for the date.

Dance Moves If you notice, I didnt mention many dance moves you should use. I cant give away all my secrets

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speakeasy Wrote: This was a tour de force. You could've probably turned this into a PDF and sold it. And that's the shit: I don't to be just another PUA who sells his eBook telling everyone HOW TO GET LAID OMFG!!!!!! And the reason I don't need to do this is because I left the most important part out of the above guide: How to dance! Judging from the interest this post has received, I think I'll move into a way to profit off this by getting some club footage of me in action, using that as a promotional vid, and then releasing some instructional videos on how to dance, vibe, etc. There are moves I use on girls all the time I didn't mention at all, that really get a chick hot for you. There are moves on how to trade girls for other girls directly when you have a circle around you. There are ways to use your arms to create tension without touching her. Etc. (06-13-2011 05:46 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote: I loved your post. The only problem: there are no places like that in my town. Everything is about generic bassmassacred grind stuff. Still, we do have outdoor salsa nights, which are a good start (even though women there are more about showing off than actual interest, but still...) Just try to isolate those girls from the dance floor before you go for a kiss.

2. I would start with partner dancing classes, such as swing. Partner dancing is easier to learn than solo dancing. Don't worry too much about the school because dancing isn't about the school, it's about your personal expression. 3. 1. You can't judge dance floor game from one night out. But I'm glad you had a good time. At the very least when you go to a dance club, even if you don't get any good prospects, you can still have fun. 2. How good are your dancing skills? If I start dancing with a girl, chances are she'll stick around because she will be having so much fun. Some girls are just sticks in the mud and have shitty personalities, but if a girl is enjoying a dance with you it's not hard to dance with her for at least ten minutes. MOST girls, if they aren't interested, will just turn you down and not dance with you at all. But if they accept your advances and start dancing, the ball is in your court and it's your game to lose.

3. A girl holding her drink? I'll start dancing, she'll be like "Wow" and then I'll take her drink out of her hand and put it down on a table. If she resists, I'll tell her "Put down your drink and then we'll have a REAL dance."

Kukku Wrote: i dance popping and people usually love to see me dance they even cheer and form a circle, but when i try to dance with a girl alot of the time they tell me that they cant dance like me and that im too good Yeah yeah, I get this all the time. Tell her, "Just follow my vibe." or "I'll make you look good." or "Relax, this is easy." She's just following you once you start partner dancing, so she doesn't need to be a good dancer. As I state in the main post, your ideal target lacks any kind of serious dancing experience. Quote:Your target girl is one who isnt too amazing of a dancer herself, but someone who may have taken a few classes in her lifetime and likes to dance for its own sake. A girl whos an expert dancer usually will not be impressed if you do not match her preconceived notions of what good dancing is, while a girl with no experience in dancing will be impossible to lead. You want a girl whos danced enough to follow your moves, as this type of woman is the most seducible. Ideally you want to be able to show her some moves shes never seen before and create a strong first impression.

Quote:A basic club dancing checklist would consist of: -"same two step with a lil twist' as 50 said. Use this when dancing to hip hop songs, RnB and other slower 4-4 beat music -basic house music shuffle, to use with the mainstream house songs that will be played, especially for earlier in the night before the crowds squeeze away all the room -basic sway and grind swag, for the rare slow dancing moments or during breakdowns in other genres -party rock, high energy hop and arm movement bit, to play during soungs by LMFAO and similar acts, or during high energy moments of other genres -basic latin music moves to go with the pop-salsa songs you will hear in mainstream glitzy venues -a 'girl twirl' move to go with the above You've got only one partner dancing move in there. You need lots of partner dancing if you want to reliably pull girls out of the club. And don't worry about matching the style of the music with your moves; you're the man, you're in charge, so be creative and make new moves for the music.
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Quote:If you go to SERIOUS dance clubs, and I go to them for the music, you won't find too many girls to impress with your moves. And if you aren't a serious dance student, you will be outclassed in most of those venues too. Plus, it almost seems like serious dance clubs frown upon guys like us coming in there trying to just pickup. they almost have a very asexual vibe, except for partner dance specialties like salsa, swing, etc. I would love a venue list for some of these places in major cities to see if I'm understanding the kind of venues being suggested. I took swing dancing in college, it was fun, but it's not very sexually charged. I don't know what a SERIOUS dance club is, I just know about venues where there are lots of girls dancing. And I always impress girls with my moves. My suggestion is to keep searching in your city for a better venue, and, once you find this venue, use partner dancing moves with the girls there and go for the kiss.

6 scorpio Wrote: Just got home from a small club, one with a small dance floor. Had a good time, but I didn't close. Overall, I don't think these venues are great for a few reasons:

- Girls alternate too quickly between dance and drink. Spitting game can be interrupted with her friend grabbing her to dance. Grinding can be interrupted to head to the sidelines. Loud music is tough to talk over, but not loud enough to make it impossible. - Cockblock action from her friends. Was thinking it's easier if the girl is lost in dancing. Granted, it's weekend action... so you got a lot of 'amateurs' roving in groups.

1. You can't judge dance floor game from one night out. But I'm glad you had a good time. At the very least when you go to a dance club, even if you don't get any good prospects, you can still have fun. 2. How good are your dancing skills? If I start dancing with a girl, chances are she'll stick around because she will be having so much fun. Some girls are just sticks in the mud and have shitty personalities, but if a girl is enjoying a dance with you it's not hard to dance with her for at least ten minutes. MOST girls, if they aren't interested, will just turn you down and not dance with you at all. But if they accept your advances and start dancing, the ball is in your court and it's your game to lose.

3. A girl holding her drink? I'll start dancing, she'll be like "Wow" and then I'll take her drink out of her hand and put it down on a table. If she resists, I'll tell her "Put down your drink and then we'll have a REAL dance."

7 Kukku Wrote: i dance popping and people usually love to see me dance they even cheer and form a circle, but when i try to dance with a girl alot of the time they tell me that they cant dance like me and that im too good

Yeah yeah, I get this all the time. Tell her, "Just follow my vibe." or "I'll make you look good." or "Relax, this is easy." She's just following you once you start partner dancing, so she doesn't need to be a good dancer. As I state in the main post, your ideal target lacks any kind of serious dancing experience. Quote:Your target girl is one who isnt too amazing of a dancer herself, but someone who may have taken a few classes in her lifetime and likes to dance for its own sake. A girl whos an expert dancer usually will not be impressed if you do not match her preconceived notions of what good

dancing is, while a girl with no experience in dancing will be impossible to lead. You want a girl whos danced enough to follow your moves, as this type of woman is the most seducible. Ideally you want to be able to show her some moves shes never seen before and create a strong first impression.

8 blurb Wrote: How sweaty are people in dance clubs? I imagine that with all that dancing, you're going to break a sweat or two. Also, what do you do about sweat and smell? Take a break? Use baby powder? More cologne?

Sometimes I sweat like an ape, but thanks to baking soda there's no smell. I try not to approach girls when really sweaty but I've brought a girl back to her place despite being sweaty. I try to avoid being too sweaty by going outside to cool off once in awhile.

9 el mechanico Wrote: Samseau, this is a great thread! What do you think about just bussin out and dropping some old school breakin' and owning the floor?

Works great; I do it all the time. You need the space to do it though. But if you have the skills and the space... own that shit! Like I said in the main post, the pattern to pick up girls on the dance floor is always the same; solo dancing to get attention, then partner dancing to build a connection.

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RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid Here's a fun dance move you can use to get a girl turned on to you!

Step 1: Face your partner, hold her hands loosely to each side of you. Step 2: Without letting go of her hands, twirl her with your left arm and keep your right hand holding on to her. Step 3: If you've executed this move correctly, her back will now be against your front. Her arms will be crossed in front of her and your hands will still be holding onto her hands. Pull her in close to you so she's grinding against you. Step 4: Lean her body to the left, slightly dipping her. Her right shoulder should rest on your left shoulder. She should be able to turn her head to face yours. Step 5: Now lean her body to the right, slightly dipping her. Her left shoulder should rest on your right shoulder. Step 6: Twirl her back to face you with your left arm.

This dance move is quite basic, and yet most girls will be very impressed when you bust it out on them. Try it out!

11 Chad Daring Wrote: Sorry if this was already asked here, but I have one big weakness on the dance floor and thats hand-in-hand dancing. Things like twirling and just moving together botch my flow up crazy. I'm fine when were not connected and just facing or dancing closely to one another, but as soon as she grabs my hand it all goes to shit. I feel like I'm losing out on a lot of potential approaches because I cant just take a girls hand and whisk her off. What a good way to remedy this? Just practice and fuck up till I'm better at it? Or is there something I can research to give me better knowledge? Also classes (unless they're free) are out due to financial restrictions.

A lot of colleges offer free dancing lessons of many types. I personally got many free swing dancing lessons. Other than that, keep practicing homie.

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RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid That video is amateur. I talk about opening with a twirl from the get-go: so basic. I can't believe that guy charged for his shitty seminar to say "SPIN AND IN".

First of all, opening with a twirl is pathetic bullshit. It's the first dance move you need to do, but it's not how you open. You open by offering the girl your hand. And before you offer your hand, you should be doing some good solo dancing to display your dancing prowess. If she doesn't take your hand, then you find another girl. This is how you avoid being beaten by her boyfriend/friends. I go solo to dance clubs everywhere and I only get attacked by crazy bitches once in a blue moon. I've never come close to being seriously injured. Offering your hand allows a girl to turn you down in case her roid'ed out boyfriend is nearby ready to beat your ass, or her physco girlfriend's have a knife in their pocketbook. Just offer your hand and see what her reaction is. Besides, how low-value can you be if you just charge in and start dancing with her? Offer her a dance, but you don't need to force her. Either she accepts or you can move on to another lucky girl. No loss for you. Ironically, offering my hand doesn't protect me from girls who aren't sexually interested in me. I'm at the point where girls with boyfriends will still dance with me, just because they want a good time. It's actually pretty annoying when I go for a kiss and a girl points to her boyfriend on a bench watching me, or shows me her ring, or tells me she has a boyfriend and is just out with her girlfriends.

It got to the point where I needed to reject girls as often as they reject me, so I could find a girl bang and not waste time. To reiterate. You move through the club while dancing. You see some cute girls. Dance your way to them. Dance next to them, and when she looks at you, offer her your hand. She either takes it or shakes her head. She takes it, you open with a twirl. She twirls, you've got her following your lead and you can dance. Now the ball's in your court. Time to impress her with your moves or go home to masturbate. I'd say, since writing the original post, I still use 95% of it. It works, it's gotten me 10 lays this fall alone. But if you notice, the structure of dancing to get laid is simple; it's the dancing which is the secret. That's the part that's not included with the guide, and it's the part no other dating guru's will offer because they suck at dancing. I gave out the dance floor game for free because this is simple shit most guys could figure out on their own after a few months. The real challenge is in how you dance with a girl, something which I've been perfecting. Once I've got a good grasp of how to teach it to others, I'll make a video about it.
13 Samseau Wrote: That video is amateur. I talk about opening with a twirl from the get-go: so basic. I can't believe that guy charged for his shitty seminar to say "SPIN AND IN". that's funny to me too cause it's no big deal at all however men are pussies so someone in charge needed to show them where their balls are at

(11-21-2011 03:31 AM)Samseau Wrote: First of all, opening with a twirl is pathetic bullshit. It's the first dance move you need to do, but it's not how you open. You open by offering the girl your hand. And before you offer your hand, you should be doing some good solo dancing to display your dancing prowess. If she doesn't take your hand, then you find another girl. This is how you avoid being beaten by her boyfriend/friends. I go solo to dance clubs everywhere and I only get attacked by crazy bitches once in a blue moon. I've never come close to being seriously injured. maybe, i don't know. i don't like it cause i feel weird waiting for her to accept my hand.. - i put responsibility in her hands in a 'do you want me?' fashion - she usually needs to see how good i dance before she can accept my hand. and i don't really dance like it's more like, let's say, i enjoy myself. it's wild and unpredictable moves like grabbing girls, shaking our asses, dancing with 3 girls together, jumping to the chorus of the song, tossing girls etc.

- essentially it's a time waster for me as too many i've been in that situation where i offered her my hand like a perfect gentleman and danced with her for 15 minutes having a blast only to be politely informed that her BF is cool enough to let me fool around with her a bit. however everytime i go hard like tim i know right away whether she wants me or not. i know that when she backs off immediately it's gonna flop. i've had girls giggling waving their hands in motion of "no no no" saying "no, not like THAT". that's my que. she would dance with me like friend with friend for hours but not like man with woman. i'm thankful for that information. i know right away what's up. it's screening. also, i 've never been in fight cause when he BF confronts me i respectfully and instantly back off, validate him that he has such cute GF and everything is cool. like "yeah she IS very attractive and really WANTED to dance with her. props for having such cute GF man, respect". people respect me as i handle it like a man like. it's great how being respectful and cool like that eliminates all of the trouble. - i noticed that girls are not impressed that much when they see a guy peering and obviously seeking signals to make a move. yes it's polite etc but not exactly the "omg god!!" experience i want to create for her that she will gossip and boast about for the whole week with her girl friends. they really just want to be taken (by someone cool obviously). but again, that's just me good luck

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RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid You can offer a girl your hand without looking like a beta. For example, face your body away from her, and extend your arm out to her from the side. Or you can hold your hand up like you want a high five, but then grab it as she reaches for it. Or you can touch her shoulder then move your hand down to her side near her hand, and lightly pull it in. The point is not to just run up and start grinding/dancing, that has never gotten me a lay. I'm sure some guys have gotten laid, but the rate of return on that has got to be abysmally low. On the other hand, I've had some very hot girls come up to me and start grinding me, which is obviously okay. Offering your hand seperates you from most men in the club. It keeps their guard down and actually keeps your value high, since you aren't investing much time or energy right off the

bat. Which is more beta: a guy running in like a party animal, going crazy and flirting, or a guy who just offers the hand to see if there's any interest before taking things further? Why waste time?

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RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid umm.. yeah.. maybe. all of this 'which is more beta/alpha' BS is irrelevant to me AS LONG AS i'm carefree and give girls some real excitement. i like what i do cause me and girls find it fun which is exactly the purpose of the party anyway. nobody can say "oh another needy lame ass" when they see me with happy girls laughing, dancing and having a blast with me. PS. alpha/beta speculation is quite similar the mindset most men have when they go out. they really really want to hit the club and pick up chicks but when they're inside they get massively stuck in their head worrying about the right performance (impressing others) and how they come across others instead of not giving a fuck and being the party others can enjoy.

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Quote:nobody can say "oh another needy lame ass" when they see me with happy girls laughing, dancing and having a blast with me. No, they are just gonna think you're another crazy party guy at the club. Why should they want to bang you as a result of that? Compare that to offering her your hand, so now you are leading the dance, moving her as you please. She's following your lead, and you get to put her in whatever position you want. Tell you what man, next time you're out on the dance floor: Do your regular thing. But when you see a girl you're interested in, offer her your hand. Then move her into a twirl. See what happens.

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Bill - I wish I knew the best spots around the world for dancing pickup. A goal of mine is to explore the world and find these places. What you'll notice is that different types of dances are dominant in different regions, Salsa in Latin America, Swing Dancing in Westernized countries, for example. Hip Hop dance classes, and dance classes in general, are no substitute for solid practice. You need to dance as much as possible without worrying about getting laid at first if you want to succeed at dance floor game. If you want, take a few classes from an instructor but always quit them after a month. If you want more instruction, find different instructors. The best way to improve dancing skill from instructors is to learn from many people. Furthermore, as far as where you should go: Use your mini-retirement to travel to many places and visit major cities with known dancing centers. Usually capital cities are best for this, but not always. Going off the beaten-path to find good dance centers will bring you more hot pussy due to less competition from other dancers. Finding good dance venues is 40% of the challenge of having good-dance floor game, but once you do it's literally tons of pussy in the promised land.
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Quote:Samseau, do you feel comfortable with a wing man who has no dancing skills respectivly with a girl who cant dance? So the wing and girl each have poor dancing skills? Well, it doesn't really matter how good her skills are. I've picked up girls who suck at dancing. In fact, they usually make the easiest lays because they are so impressed by your dancing talents that they themselves lack. It makes them feel feminine in awe of your skill (or something... who the fuck knows how dancing works?). So if the wing man can't dance and he's with you at a dancing venue, I just hope he has some other form of game that works well in super-loud settings. Talking game can work, but the environment really works against you.

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RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid Samseau, what Do you think of developing fame through dance. This is now over the top but even 5% of this guys fame level would make everything easier. Btw this guy is from germany and gay.

keyword: camillo laurcella He has 25k likers in facebook through dance. That is more than many celebrities. RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid I looked up him, he's really good. Looks like at least 10 years of practice on his part. It's not his moves per se that makes him a good dancer, it's his explosive energy and distinct style that really sets him apart. He's only into solo-dancing, however, where I think partner dancing is by far and away more effective for the average man. Remember, you don't need to be so good at dancing that you can give classes. You just need to be able to look better than most other dancers at the club and better than 97% or so of the other men the girl you're dancing with has been with. There wouldn't be a point to dance floor game if you had to be as good as Camillo Laurcella.
20 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid (08-06-2012 02:32 PM)mental Wrote: Sorry if it's been answered somewhere, but search hasn't given me concrete answers. While I can dance good with confidence in clubs, I'd like to know which dance is best to learn for a typical club. In addition to swing (which isn't taught in any of the dance schools here), which is the best dance to learn? I'm guessing salsa but I'd like recommendations. Thanks in advance.

Club dancing is all about creativity and expressing fresh new moves. In particular, learning how to break dance will separate you from everyone else. Break dancing itself won't get you laid, but it will teach you how to move your body in new ways that will impress women.

21 Samseau Wrote: Club dancing is all about creativity and expressing fresh new moves. In particular, learning how to break dance will separate you from everyone else. Break dancing itself won't get you laid, but it will teach you how to move your body in new ways that will impress women.

Thanks. I already dance pretty cool I think (shoulders + arms + legs moving to the rhythm) but it gets stale pretty quick, so I was planning to take dancing lessons so I would get more moves to combine and all that, and also I started to really enjoy dancing in clubs. So, would you recommend to learn first salsa or break dancing? I hear salsa a lot here on RVF but I like as much advice as possible.

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RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid You'll get more mileage from learning partner dancing first. Partner dancing is the key to getting laid. But in most club situations, girls aren't going to want to dance with you unless you're extremely good looking or have good dance moves. So first and foremost learn how to partner dance well, then step up your game with some break dancing. I have no idea what's popular in Bosnia, but take the dance that's most popular there. Generally speaking, you need to learn the dance that's popular with the younger girls. Where I live, Swing dancing gets a lot of teenage girls as well as early twenty hotties. Salsa gets girls between the age 25-35, and tango gets old wrinkly women between 45-65. That's why I learned swing.
23 MrXY True Player Post: #90 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid All I know is some basic steps i learned from books and youtube and i get told I am a good dancer. Posts: 1,866 i am not a good dancer in fact, but since most guys can't dance at all i sort of Joined: Jan 2012 look good by default Reputation: 24 And it is a huge advantage with women

24 I'mWaitingForTheMan Chubby Chaser Post: #91 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid (08-13-2012 05:21 PM)MrXY Wrote: All I know is some basic steps i learned from books and youtube and i get told I am a good dancer. Posts: 481 Joined: Apr 2012 Reputation: 1 i am not a good dancer in fact, but since most guys can't dance at all i sort of look good by default And it is a huge advantage with women

This. Probably been covered before but most guys absolutely suck at dancing just like the majority don't know anything about game. Even being moderately able to move yourself will set you above the competition.

25 XXL Alpha Male Post: #92 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid all i've been doing lately was just moving my hips on the dancefloor, smiling and oozing fun vibe and that's basically IT to get enough attention. value in da club = fun. Posts: 1,070 Joined: Sep 2011 it's kind of crazy, like when i sometimes hear some people saying they can't Reputation: 27 dance and stuff.. i can't dance myself at all. i just enjoy moving to the music very often doing something according to the lyrics. and when m.jackson come up i dance more like a stripper or something haha. it all comes down to having fun and approaching as soon as you get welcoming eye contact. that's it. as long as you clearly have a good time, dancing skills are irrelevant. for less smooth dancefloor game it's key to hold frame like a motherfucker. yesterday i did that 'hand of god' move (reaching out hand palm up and pulling the girl in close to you if she grabs it), i got good EC, i reached out my hand and she just froze looking at me for good 5 seconds. i didn't flinch but inside i was like 'oh shit she's strong' and she finally gave in, cool little scene in the middle of the dancefloor. so.. basic moves, comfort in your own skin, smile (HUGE), fun and that's all it takes

26 RandalGraves Chubby Chaser Post: #95 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid

Obamas Victory Dance Posts: 535 Joined: Sep 2011 Reputation: 1 This guy's moves are pretty sick. I want to learn how to dance like that. When I'm out at the dance bars, I can get my enthusiasm up during a good song, but I don't know any good moves. I generally dance in the basic left-right two step but I'm going to try to adapt some moves here to change it up. Any inspiration or advice from more advanced dancers?

27 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid (01-05-2013 09:46 PM)soup Wrote: My sense is that good dancing she shows that you have no tension in your body and that energy can move freely through you. So, you've got nothing to hide and are comfortable wielding power- her comfort and attraction buttons get pressed at the same time. And, you are giving her a preview of what the sex will be like. I try to make sure that all my movements, including my arms and hands are generated from my pelvis/lower abs; I want her to know that my sexual energy is so strong that it radiates from my crouch into my limbs. I try to stay limber, and let the rest of my body act solely as an amplification for my core.

Pelvis and shoulders. Those are the most sexual parts of a man's body when dancing. Focus on those two when you want to get hot and heavy.

28 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid (02-01-2013 02:25 PM)kenny_powers Wrote: Awesome thread. I'm going to see Avicii tonight in DC: http://www.clubglow.com/ Supposed to be about 10,000 people there. Any advice for a huge EDM party like this?

Go nuts and escalate hard 29 Nascimento Wingman Post: #103 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid Hey man, I've recently started getting into this dance game stuff. I think I am quite decent now. Posts: 637 Joined: Nov 2012 Reputation: 5 I have had no schooling or education whatsoever.. I just found videos by takesomecrime on youtube and I saw that he was having so much fun dancing, and if he is, why couldn't I? So I tried to model his dancing and found myself having fun with it, that is how it started. Here are a couple of my favourites, and its a style I try to imitate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RB31QfqmX8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG8lRQNYnkQ I have probably gone clubbing ~30 times the past 7 months, since I turned 19 (age requirement here). When I started dancing, I met a couple guys, professional dancers, at this place I was frequenting. These guys are GOOD, and I'm assuming they are at a very similar level to you. They do dancing mostly for fun though, not to pick up girls. Although if they wanted to, the amount of pussy they could get would be endless. Anyways, over time these guys, now my friends, have actually started telling me how I am actually dancing pretty well now. And over the past week, my confidence has shot up, because girls are now approaching me while I dance solo, grinding on me and cheering me on. After that happened, I have started pulling them in to dance, and spinning them, picking them up and such. I've also started hearing the following - your dancer aren't you? How many years have you done this? Do you take classes? All stuff I'm sure you've heard thousands of times, but it makes me think I am on the right track. Here is a video that shows what I have been doing, although I still need much more practice to become as efficient and smooth as these guys. From 6:00 to 9:30:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z92ehuQ92lc What do you think of this style above here? And also, your comment about the shoes.. Should I just wear my converse sneakers to dance, does it even matter? I ask because I have been using my decent looking shoes: http://imgur.com/Xop44. I feel as if I wear converse though I'm just wearing what every other dude is wearing. But most importantly, my question to you.. would you say it is all about exposure? I don't have time to get into any classes, although I want to become as good as I possibly can. I am vibing with the music, and am getting better at moving with the beat. But would you say with enough exposure, willingness to learn, and combine that with a fun attitude while dancing and the ability to not give a shit.. Is that all you need to become excellent at dance floor game? I want to know if this is an investment now, so that within a few months or a year I can finally start to pull and be the best dancer at the club.

30 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid (02-01-2013 04:38 PM)Nascimento Wrote: Here is a video that shows what I have been doing, although I still need much more practice to become as efficient and smooth as these guys. From 6:00 to 9:30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z92ehuQ92lc What do you think of this style above here?

Those guys are doing it right. You should aim to be similar to them. Quote:And also, your comment about the shoes.. Should I just wear my converse sneakers to dance, does it even matter? I ask because I have been using my decent looking shoes: http://imgur.com/Xop44. I feel as if I wear converse though I'm just wearing what every other dude is wearing. It's up to you - how much money do you want to waste? Also there are cheap shoes that look decent and aren't converse.

Quote:But most importantly, my question to you.. would you say it is all about exposure? I don't have time to get into any classes, although I want to become as good as I possibly can. I am vibing with the music, and am getting better at moving with the beat. But would you say with enough exposure, willingness to learn, and combine that with a fun attitude while dancing and the ability to not give a shit.. Is that all you need to become excellent at dance floor game? I want to know if this is an investment now, so that within a few months or a year I can finally start to pull and be the best dancer at the club. It's all practice. You can get lessons from the dancers you've already met. Just keep practicing, it's around 80% subconscious, and before you know it you'll be swooping girls instinctively. 31 guerrilla Banned Post: #109 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid There are two types of clubs in my region: 1 is hip hop and the other is this new EDM. There is no trance or dance club music, only hip hop and neo-EDM. Posts: 647 Joined: Feb 2013 Please, oh wise Samseau, give me some guidance on how to feel this type of music, get into its groove and throw down some basic moves to help me with the girlies. I find that I'm in just such a different headspace and I cannot connect, much to my detriment. These are two tracks as examples of the two types of clubs: 1) hip hop

I see mostly the freak grind and reverse grind goin on in the dance floor with this, but whenever I've tried to break the ice by nonverbally initiating the grind it fails. 2) EDM mainstream remixes Beyonce- check on it remix The crowd at these clubs is infinitely cooler than the trashy crowds at the hip hop club, but this music f'n confuses me more how to move whether or not I'm hanging with Molly that night LOL!!!!! A couple weeks ago I tried to just do "what felt natural" and be totally NOT self-conscious and move like I thought I

saw others move to this type of beat, and wouldn't-you-know but it repelled the girls. Quite the opposite of the desired attraction I sought. Thankfully this was at a club I infrequently visit a couple hours away from my hometown.

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RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid I would stick to the EDM club. As for dancing it, look for the good dancers and then incorporate it into your own style. Everyone sucks when they start to dance.
33 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid (02-24-2013 01:01 AM)guerrilla Wrote: Yeah, but there's only 1 EDM club and like 6 hip hop clubs. The hip hop clubs are trashy but the girls can be pretty hot. Tips to thuggin it up?

Learn some bboy? That's pretty much the only dance that will impress at a hip hop club, and even then it's no guarantee. Hip hop clubs aren't good venues for dance game, it's probably suited more for a tall jacked dude who wears baggy pants. Quote:But what do you if you sweat? It's pretty warm in the dance clubs, especially in the summertime. Even with air conditioning..a few hundred people dancing and heat from the lights and electronic equipment. I'm in ok shape. Not an athlete. But when I dance with any kind of moves...I get sweaty. My dress shirt gets sweaty and then it's well...not good. I've picked up girls while sweaty. I've also grossed out girls while sweaty. I try not to dance too hard unless the girl I'm with is into me. When you first start dancing, keep your movements light so you don't break out in sweat too much. When you find a girl that likes you, it's okay to dance harder and sweat more. As long as she's sweating it doesn't matter if you're sweating.

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Quote: When you find a girl that likes you, it's okay to dance harder and sweat more. As long as she's sweating it doesn't matter if you're sweating. Posts: 637 Joined: Nov 2012 Reputation: 5

This. Yesterday, I was just dancing and screwing around with my buddies when I saw a group of women I had interacted with previously. I pulled one of the girls in to dance, and she was very receptive, we were close grinding, I was spinning her, picking her up etc. I started to sweat like crazy, but so did she, and if anything that just added to the emotion and tension of the moment. I escalated body touching and her facial expressions were just ecstasy, I had her hand behind my neck and it was a pool of sweat. By the way, I can vouch one again for this dance floor game.. I was able to pull a couple nights ago because of it. Greatly aroused her, had her extremely attracted, so I just told her she should leave with me, and she did. I love dance floor game.

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RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid I lift girls all the time! It's a great litmus test to see if she's down to bang. If she gets pissy or angry when you try a lift, you know she's a cunt to be avoided. However if she giggles and smites or screams, then you know you're giving her the gina tingles and she's ready to be gamed.
36 Nascimento Wingman Post: #131 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid ^^ That's a very interesting test for compliance. I never thought of it that way. On another note, the lift-makeout is the most exciting part of dance floor game, that I have found thus far.

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37 RE: Dance Floor Game using music to get laid (08-04-2013 06:56 PM)Nascimento Wrote: ^^ That's a very interesting test for compliance. I never thought of it that way. On another note, the lift-makeout is the most exciting part of dance floor game, that I have found thus far.

It depends on the venue. In a club setting this is a standard go-to move I use often. In a place where there are "regulars" in a salsa club or swing club, I keep the PDA out of the equation. Far more effective to save kissing for once you're at the next bar or your apartment.

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