KRISHNA AND ALI

Tuesday, July 13, 2010

Krishna and Ali
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful. Krishna and Ali (a.s) The present subject under discussion is a controversial one and may annoy many of the Muslims ( hies and unnis) and !indus as "ell. But the pivot of my discussion are only those broad minded researchers "ho are ever in pursuit of truth and ready to imbibe truth ho"soever bitter it may be. #e$ardin$ the bitterness of truth the !oly %rophet of Islam said, &Al'ha(('u'murrun) Truth is bitter*

To s"allo" truth you have to first prepare yourself, and also you have to $ive effort durin$ the process of s"allo"in$, and even after $ivin$ all the efforts it sometimes re$ur$itates bac+.%eople "ith stron$ conviction do not fear in $oin$ throu$h even the "ildest and most radical of theories, just li+e a ocean e,plorer "ho tethered to a ship "ith a very stron$ rope, possessin$ a bi$ o,y$en cylinder, dares to $o into the abyss of the ocean in search of a treasure. -uran says, &!old you ti$htly to the rope of Allah "hich shall never brea+*

I am tal+in$ to those "ho are holdin$ the rope of Allah very ti$htly, and those "ho are in doubt of their $rip of the rope should avoid readin$ this piece of "ritin$. .ell, comin$ bac+ to the subject of discussion, Krishna and Ali'ibne'Abutalib (The first Muslim) are t"o different people, "ho e,isted in different periods in history. /ord Krishna "as born in some 0011 B2(rou$hly) and Ali (as) "as born in some 311A4.Both of them "ere the $reatest personalities of their times, both "ere $reat philosophers and both "ere men of 5od(spiritual bein$s),both "ere the bravest, both of them "ere +illed durin$ their prayer (Krishna "as +illed "hen he "as in yo$a meditation by an arro" and Ali(as) "as attac+ed by poisoned s"ord "hen he "as in prayer) both had an encounter "ith a sna+e at their birth etc.The "ord Krishna(+rish6one "ho di$s or plou$hs the earth,na6 peace,"ith control etc) means one "ho plou$hs or di$s the earth "ith peace,control and authority.!ence the meanin$ of Krishna can also be ta+en as one "ho has control on the earth(field) or in slan$ 78ather of earth.7And as a matter of pleasant surprise one of the popular name of Ali(as) "as Abu'Turab(father of earth)9this title "as $iven to Ali(as) by the %rophet of Islam(as) "hen he found Ali(as) asleep "ith sand coverin$ his "hole body(Ali(as) used to "or+ in fields and di$ "ells).Krishna is also +no" as :Ilapatye(/ord of earth) and Abu' Turab(father of earth) also means the same.Krishna is +no"n as : atyavacha(spea+er of truth) and Ali (as) "as $iven the title of : iddi(ue'al'A+bar(the $reatest amon$ truthful) by the !oly %rophet of Islam(as). Ali,in arabic,means ;The topmost<.It is mentioned in ;hadith(traditions) that the name ;Ali< "as

revealed(by Allah) to the !oly %rophet of Islam for his cousin Ali'Ibne'Abutalib.Krishna declare himself as ;Ali'the topmost< in chapter'=1 of the Bha$avat$eeta in the follo"in$ verses, The Supreme Lord said: O Arjuna, now I shall explain to you My prominent divine manifestations, be ause My manifestations are endless! "#$!#%& O Arjuna, I am the Atma"topmost'Ali& abidin( in the heart of all bein(s! I am also the be(innin(, the middle, and the end of all bein(s! "#$!)$& I am *ishnu"vishnu was the topmost'Ali& amon( the "twelve& sons of Aditi, I am the radiant sun"topmost'Ali& amon( the luminaries, I am Mari "topmost'Ali& amon( the (ods of wind, I am the moon"topmost amon( the ni(ht luminaries'Ali& ! "#$!)#& I am the Sama *eda"sama veda is onsidered as the hi(hest amon( the vedas ,topmost'Ali& amon( the *edas+ I am Indra"topmost'Ali& amon( the ,evas+ I am the mind"topmost'Ali& amon( the senses+ I am the ons iousness"topmost'Ali& in livin( bein(s! "#$!))& " I shall now mention -Ali- in -"&- to onvey the meanin( .topmost& topmost'Ali I am Shiva"Ali& amon( the /udras+ "I am& 0ubera"Ali& amon( the 1a2shas and demons+ I am the fire"Ali& amon( the *asus+ and I am Meru"Ali& amon( the mountain pea2s! "#$!)3& Amon( the priests, O Arjuna, 2now Me to be the hief, 4rihaspati! Amon( the army (enerals, I am S2anda"Ali&+ I am the o ean"Ali& amon( the bodies of water! "#$!)5& I am 4hri(u"Ali& amon( the (reat sa(es+ I am the monosyllable OM"Ali& amon( the words+ I am 6apa"Ali& amon( the 1ajna+ and I am the 7imalaya"Ali& amon( the immovables! "#$!)8& I am the 9eepal tree"Ali& amon( the trees, :arada"Ali& amon( the sa(es, ;hitraaratha"Ali& amon( the <andharvas, and sa(e 0apila"Ali& amon( the Siddhas! "#$!)=& 0now Me as > h haihshrava"Ali&, born at the time of hurnin( the o ean for (ettin( the ne tar, amon( the horses+ Airaavata"Ali& amon( the elephants+ and the 0in("Ali& amon( men! "#$!)?& I am thunderbolt"Ali& amon( the weapons, 0aamadhenu"Ali& amon( the ows, and the upid"Ali& amon( the pro reators! Amon( the serpents, I am *aasu2"Ali&! "#$!)@& I am Sheshanaa(a"Ali& amon( the :aa(as, I am *aruna"Ali& amon( the water (ods, and Aryamaa"Ali& amon( the manes! I am 1ama"Ali& amon( the ontrollers! "#$!)%& I am 9rahlaada"Ali& amon( ,iti-s pro(eny, time or death amon( the healers, lion amon( the beast"Ali& and the <aruda"Ali& amon( birds! "#$!3$& I am the wind"Ali& amon( the purifiers, and Lord /ama"Ali& amon( the warriors! I am the shar2"Ali& amon( the fishes, and the <an(es"Ali& amon( the rivers! "#$!3#& I am the be(innin(, the middle, and the end of the reation "Ali&, O Arjuna! Amon( the 2nowled(e I am 2nowled(e of the supreme Self "Ali&! I am lo(i "Ali& of the lo(i ian! "#$!3)& I am the letter .A."Ali& amon( the alphabets, amon( the ompound words I am the dual ompound, I am the endless time, I am the sustainer of all, and have fa es on all sides "or I am omnis ient&! "#$!33& I am the allAdevourin( death "Ali& and also the ori(in of future bein(s! Amon( the feminine nouns I am fame "Ali& prosperity, spee h, memory, intelle t, resolve, and for(iveness! "#$!35& I am 4rihatsaama"Ali& amon( the hymns! I am <aayatri"Ali& amon( the mantras, I am Maar(sirsha ":ovemberA,e ember& amon( the months, I am the sprin("Ali& amon( the seasons! "#$!38& I am the fraud of the (ambler+ I am the splendor of the splendid+ I am vi tory "of the vi torious&+ I am resolution "of the resolute&+ I am the (oodness of the (ood"Ali&! "#$!3=& I am *aasudeva"Ali& amon( the *rishni, Arjuna"Ali& amon( the 9aandavas, *yaasa amon("Ali& the sa(es, and >shanaa"Ali& amon( the poets! "#$!3?& I am the power of rulers, the statesmanship of the see2ers of vi tory, I am silen e amon( the se rets"Ali& and the SelfA2nowled(e"Ali& of the 2nowled(eable! "#$!3@& I am the ori(in"Ali& or seed of all bein(s, O Arjuna! There is nothin(, animate or inanimate, that an exist without Me! "See also ?!#$ and %!#@& "#$!3%& There is no end of My divine manifestations, O Arjuna! This is only a brief des ription by Me of the

extent of My divine manifestations! Is not Krishna tryin$ to say(in code lan$ua$e) that he is Ali,the topmost in every aspect>

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?o" it may be ar$ued that,"hen Krishna is sayin$ he is :Ali(as): did Ali,at any point of time in his life, declared himself as Krishna..ell ,I am (uotin$ a hadith form the boo+ :Kau+ab'e' 4urri:,pa$e.no 03@'03A,"hich runs as follo"s, It is narrated thgrough Ammar-e Yasir, Jabir bin Abdullah, Malik-e Ashtar and Miqdad Aswad al Kindi, that when Imam Ali [s] was proceeding towards haam [!or the battle at i!!in], he stopped and turned his horse awa" !rom the direction o! haam and looked around !or quite some time and then proceeded in one direction [awa" !rom haam]# $is companions were astonished at this and asked him the reason !or the change o! direction# Imam Ali [s] replied: "I see what you are unable to see, for the hidden [Ghaib] is screened from your eyes. There is a monastry in this forest in which a Christian on! is waitin" with the sword tied around his waist and is ready to blow the trumpet. I want to brea! his sword and shatter his trumpet to pieces. If you are with me then follow me". #e, alon" with his companions then proceeded to the place where they found the monastry and the hermit. The hermit was attracted by the luminiscent face of Imam Ali [s] surrounded by his companions. The herimt as!ed: "$, %ou &air Gentleman where are you comin" from'" Imam Ali [s] replied : "I am comin" from adina and we are proceedin" to fi"ht a battle at (haam" The personality of Imam Ali [s] so impressed the hermit that his heart was illumined with faith. The hermit as!ed: "$, you, %oun" man with the efful"ent face are you an an"el or a human bein"'" Imam Ali [s] replied: "I am a human bein" and a Guide to the )*inns and leader of the an"les" The hermit said: "In the +ible I ha,e read the name as Taab Taab. $ you the -fful"ent $ne, Is that your name'". Imam Ali [s] replied: "Taab Taab is the name of uhammad the Chosen $ne [ ustafa]. y name is (antiyya". The hermit as!ed: "Is your name mentioned as eet eet in the Torah'" Imam Ali [s] replied: " eet eet is the name of uhammad the Chosen $ne [ ustafa] and my name is Aeliya" The hermit as!ed : "Are you the essiah who has descended from the s!ies to alli,iate the melancholy and sorrow of the deni.ens of the earth'" Imam Ali [s] replied: "/o. I am not 0esus, but 0esus is one of those who adore me" The hermit as!ed: "Are you oses come down with his staff to show his miracles to man!ind'" Imam Ali [s] replied: "Iam not oses but oses is one of those who lo,es me" The hermit said: "&or God1s sa!e tell me your name and your descent ["eneolo"y]" Imam Ali [s] replied: "In e,ery country and community I bear different names. The Arabs call me #al 2Ata and search for me in this title. The people of Tayif call me Tahmeed. Amon" the eccans I am !nown as +abul +alad. The deni.ens of the s!ies write my name as Ahad. The Tur!s call me +alya and the 3an"is call me a*eelan. And the #indus call me 4ishen 4ishen. The &iran"is call me #ami Isa. And the peopl!e of 4hataya call me +olya. I am re!nowned in Ira5 as Ameerun /ahl. In 4hurasan I am !noewwn as #aider. In the first firmament I am !nown as Abdul #ameed. In the second fiermament I am !nown as Abdul (amad. In the third firmament I am !nown as Abdul a*eed. In the fourth firmamwnt I am !nown as 3ul 26laa. In the fifth firmament my nanmew is Ali al 2Aalaa. The Glorious 7ord has

made me sit upon theThrone of Authority [ usnad8e8Imaarat] and desi"nated me as Ameerul ominin. The Chief of the two worlds [4hwa*a8e8)o8(araa] uhammade ustafa [s] named me Abu Turaab. y father "a,e Abul #asan as my a"nomen and my mother "a,e the a"nomen Abul 2Ashar" There are many false alle$ations(that he "as a "omaniser,he "as :ma+han choor:etc) attributed to Krishna and similarly there are many false stories attributed to Ali to the e,tent that a $roup of Muslims used to curse him(as)(5od forbid) from the pulpit as their reli$ious duty(Imam BAhmed' ibne B!ambal stopped the cursin$ of Ali(as) from the Cummah'sermon).Krishna "as a $reat orator and his boo+ of sermons is called & The Bha$avat 5eeta*.Ali(as) is considered as the $reatest of Muslim orators and his antholo$y of sermons is called &?ahjulbala$ha'pea+ of elo(uence.* If you read ?ahjulbala$ha and Bha$avad'5ita you "ill find the same tone, same spiritual ener$y and the same philosophical fre(uency and many of the pearls of "isdom are common to both.

8i$.=.The script of :DM: in ans+rit resembles the script of :Ali: in Arabic. If you read 5eeta from chapter 'E alon$ "ith the sermon of &Bayan* of Imam Ali(as) it appears as if both of them are one personality e,istin$ in different periods of time. Because in 5eeta Krishna says & I am a$una Brahman(5od "ith attributes'not real, the real true 5od is formless and cannot be conceived and is called ?ir$una Brahman)(=)) Ali (a.s) in his sermon of Bayan says I am the face of Allah which shall not perish: Krishna says & I made the creation*(F)) Ali (a.s) says I raised the seven heavens and established the earth with the permission of almighty Allah )Krishna says &I am the soul(atma)*(0))Ali (a.s) says I am the Rooh (atma so!l) )Krishna says &I am the rites and ritual of scriptures*(@)) Ali (a.s) says I am the salat(prayer)" #a$at" %a&& and 'ihad(holy str!ggle) of a tr!e believer: Krishna says & I am the buddhi(intellect) "hich differentiates bet"een truth and falsehood*(A)) Ali(a.s) says I am (!r)!an(differentiator of tr!th and falsehood):Krishna says &I am time*(3)) Ali(a.s) says I am the reg!lator of time: Krishna says & I am the syllable ;DM<*(G)) *he a!thor"+r.+!hammad ,eelani" in his boo$ -+ and Ali proved that the syllable -+ is Ali beca!se in .panishads it is mentioned that -+ is /ag!na Brahman (0ot ,od) and the meaning of -+in /ans$rit are" the hand of ,od" father of earth and power of ,od which are the e1act synonym of 23ad!llah4" 2Ab! *!rab(father of earth) 5!watte 6arwardigar which are again titles given to Ali by *he %oly 6rophet of Islam. Krishna says &I am 5od<s thunderbolt, "hich descends on the "ic+ed*(H)) Ali says I ma$e the clo!ds and prod!ce the th!nderbolt" and ma$e it fall on the enemies of Allah ) Krishna says &I am the be$innin$, the middle and the end of every thin$*(E)) Ali says I am the beginning and the end of every thing: Krishna says &I am the 8i$ tree*(=1)) Ali says I am the (ig and the -live: Krishna says &I am the scriptures ever "ritten*(==) )Ali says I am the master of previo!sly reveled boo$s and the %oly 5!ran: Krishna says &I "ill be comin$ a$ain and a$ain to establish reli$ion*(==))Ali says &I had been send by 5od in erst"hile times in different forms and a thousand nations "ere destroyed for not believin$ in me*. I have (uoted only those parts of the sermon of :Bayan: "hich are similar to those of :The

Bha$avat$eeta and hence, my readers may be tempted to presume that the sermon of Bayan is just a copy of :5eeta:. But the reality is,the sermon of Bayan contains "ords of $reat scientific "isdom "hich are no"here found in the Bha$avat$eeta.8or instance Ali says, 7I am standin$ in the s+ies "here only souls are able to travel and I am the only :one: "ho is able to breath there.7 ?ahjul'Asrar) ermon of Bayan,pa$e,=EF The $reat astronomer :Cohannes Kepler: in his fictional "or+ 7 omnium (4reams)7 predicted that animals could not breath bet"een the earth and the moon.Dnly in the F1th century, it "as prooved that space is "ithout o,y$en, and that "e cannot breath in space.This scientific fact should be enou$h to establish the validity of sermon of Bayan and that it is not just a copy of 5eeta. As the 5eeta is older than the sermon of Bayan it "ill be irrational to presume that it has be copied from the sermon of Bayan.Cust findin$ a H11 years old copy of $eeta,and subjectin$ it to datin$ study(by 5ei$er Muller counter),shall solve the issue . There are people "ho declared themselves to be 5od, but despite of sayin$ such hu$e thin$s both,Krishna and Ali(as) denied themselves to be 5od(Krishna says to Arjuna in chapter'=F that he is a$una Brahman and the real formless 5od is ?ir$una Brahman and the real $oal of life is to reach ?ir$una Brahman(8ormless 5od).The amaIin$ similarity of tone and subject matter of 5eeta and the sermon of Bayan "ill be a topic of research for both the !indu and Muslim philosophers.

Only Islam is the ultimate truth

The follo"in$ hadith is mentioned in 7Kitaab'ul'Mubeen7 by Mohammad+han Kirmani, 7Dne day the Dmar ibn Khattab "as copyin$ the traits of %rophet Mohammad (sa") from taurait (torot),the boo+ of Ce"s, as he "as "ith a Ce"ish scholar..hen the !oly %rophet of Islam came to +no" of this, he (sa") became very an$ry and said to Dmar) 7Jven if Moses "here here and you 7D: Dmar "ould have follo"ed him instead of me then you "ould have turned an unbeliever.7 Accordin$ to the above hadith Islam:s verdict is al"ays the final one and only Islam should be follo"ed.If there are common points bet"een 5eeta and Islam then Islam should be follo"ed and not 5eeta9there is a rule that latest is preferred over the old.And out of Krishna and Ali, Ali should be follo"ed and not Krishna. #eferences (=)5eeta,ch'H9=F'=0,ch'E)@'3,ch'=F)0'@,ch'E)=G (F)5eeta,ch'E)=H'=E,ch'E)== (0)5eeta,ch'E)=3,ch'=1)F1 (@)5eeta,ch'=1)=1'==,ch'G)=1 (A)5eeta,ch'==)0F (3)5eeta,ch'E)=G,ch'G)H (G)5eeta,ch'=1)FH (H)5eeta,ch'E)=H (E)5eeta,ch'=1)F3 (=1)5eeta,ch'=A)=A (==)5eeta,ch'@)G'H

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