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LAV/ OFFICESOF DONALD KILMER
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126l LincolnAvenue,Suite111
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Telephone: 4081998-8489
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Attornev for Plaintifß
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F'ORTHE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF' CALIFORNIA.
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RUSSELLALLEN NORDYKE and CaseNo.: C 99 04389 MJJ
13 SALLIE ANN NORDYKE,dbaTS TRADE
SHOV/S,JESSB. GIJY, DUANE DARR, DECLARATION OF DUANE DARR.
t4 V/ILLIAM J. JONES,DARYL N. DAVIS,, PlaintÍff.
TASIANA WERTYSCHY-NI, JEAN LEE,
l5 TODD BALTES,DENNISBLAIR, R. L.
t6 (Bob) ADAMS, ROGERBAKER" MIKE
HearingDate:
FOURNIERandVIRGIL MoVICKER.
t7 HearingTime: 9: sÒ 4.tkî,:,"
Plaintifß,
18 Judge: Martin J. Jenkins
ri\ vs. Courthouse: U.S.Court House
t9 450GotdenGateAve.
SanFrancisco
20 MARY V. KTNG,GAIL STEELE,WILMA California 94102
CHAN, KEITH CARSON,SCOTT
2l HAGGERTY,The COI-INTYOF
ALAMEDA, and The COUNTY OF
22 ALAMEDA BOARD OF SUPERVISORS,
þ Defendants.
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@ I, Duane Darr, declareas follows:
8 9. I am a proud member of the gun culture and regularly attend gun shows throughout
) 1 0 10. I was a memberof the Silicon Valley NRA Members' Council. That associationhada
l5 11. I believe that this work is especially important given the current interpretation of that
t7 12. I believe that the "right to keep and bear arms" is a core political right that can be
/*"'\j 18 conveyedvia the possessionof firearms at a gun show for the following reasons:
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L9 a. Possessionof a gun at a gun show supportsmy belief that the "right to keep and
J convey "the right to keep and bear arms." This includes attending
10 c. It is also my firmly held belief that my possessionof guns at a gun show can
T2 gun control activists, and people who are neutral on the issue, that gun owners
15 King that guns are "icons of patriotism." I just reject the implication that this is
16 something to be ashamedof.
{ 18 where they are in dangerof becoming extinct - I am supporting the National Rifle
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27 working for grassroots gun rights, making financial donationsand recruiting new
Donald Kilmer
Aftomey at Iåw 28 members.)
126l Lincoln Ave.
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I b. When I see fellow membersof the gun culture possessingfirearms at gun shows,I
2 am reminded that I am not alone in my belief that a virtuous and anned citizenry
4 threat to liberty.
5 c. When I seefellow membersof the gun culture at gun shows,who are able to
6 acquire and possessfrrearms,I am reminded that the United Statesis one of the
7 few countries in the world that extendsrights and privileges to all membersof
i ' . ) 10 "keep and bear arms" I am reminded of how important the right of dissentis in
1l this country. Thus the conflict of ideas regarding the very nature of acquiring and
20 to hunters and gun owners. I did not believe him. But I understoodhis message.
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Þ' I have personally witnessedformer NRA President Carleton Heston raise an
22 antique SharpsRifle over his head and simply state: "From my cold deadhands."
23 With no other words said, his possessionof the firearm while simultaneously
5 attending a gun show and exercisingtheir rights under our constitution to speak,
6 symbolic of being a free citizen of this republic. "We the People" have
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7 inalienable rights. are the sourceand causeof those rights. If we delegateto
8 the governmentour ability to use force for collective selÊdefenseand insure our
9 safety under our penal codes;then it is the citizens of this great republic that are
10 the fountainheadof law and thus the final repository of liberty. Furthermorethe
11 delegation of rights does not extinguish those original rights that exist and which
t6 at gun shows, exercising their right to "keep and bear arms", I am also witnessing
20 demonizedand tough new gun laws are passed. This kind of reactionary
22 as criminals. (For a good example of this, seeDefendant Mary King's July 20,
23 1999 PressRelease. She inaccuratelyrecounts facts from the Pomona gun show,
24 but admits that the Alameda Show has no such problems.) Seeingthe legitimate
25 gun culture ofcollectors, vendors,hobbyists, and hunters attend a gun show is the
27 the Defendantsin this caseadmit that gun shows are not a source of crime in
Donaldl(ilmer
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1 1 4. I have personally witnessed,over the past 10 years,the closing of many venuesfor the
2 "gun culfure." Many storeswhich used to carry firearms have been closed or zoned out
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J of existence. Shootingrangesin the Bay Area have been closed. Gun shows have been
5 Alameda County. Although I am supportive of Russ and Sally Nordyke and consider
6 them good friends, I would never attend a gun show that did not permit its patrons,
7 exhibitor and vendorsto possessand/or display actual (as opposedto pictures of)
8 firearms. The idea that a gun show can take place without guns present is nonsense.
10 actual guns (as opposedto pictures of guns) at gun shows,abridgesmy right to engagein
23 currently own antique firearms that were used during the Civil War. [circa: 1860
24 through 18651.
7 (3) Gun shows are not just a place to buy and sell ftrearms,but for the
I4 following ways:
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18 written descriptionsare wholly inadequateto this task for the
t9 reasonsstatedabove.
25 Flayderman.
5 d. I would assertcategorically that a "gun show" where actual guns cannotbe shown
6 is a fraud upon the public and a perversionof the English language. Preventing
7 the public from viewing actual guns at gun shows stifles education,retards
8 advancesin the arts and breedscontempt for firearm regulations that might
t0 r6. Finally, attachedas Exhibit D is a copy of a public speechI gave in support of gun shows
1l in Contra Costa County on March lg, lggT and the internet cover page for that speech.
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America that the forgoing is true and correct and that this declarationwas executedin SanJose,
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6th Edition
By NormFlayderman
D B IB O O K SI,N C .
ABOUTTHE AUTHOR
Undoubtedly the world's besr-known antique arms dealer and
authority, Norm Flayderman's name has become synon)Tnous
with historic weapons of all qpes.
Having handled almosr..if notall...antique arms existing, Flay-
derman possessesa prodigious amount of information which he
has shared freely with his fellow collecrors. The "Acknowledge-
ment'section of almost anv anúque arms book published within
the past decades carries his name, often as a m4jor contributor.
Norm has received more honors and oftìcial recognition than
any other professional dealer or collector in his field. An
acknowledged arms historian, he acts in an advisory capacity to
some of the most prestigious,A.merican museums and historical
societies.He is StaffArms Consultant by U.S. Army appoinrmenr
to the famed Springfìeld Armory Museum, Arms Consultant by
Lr.S.Marine Corps appoinrment ro the Marine Corps Historical
Center, Washington, D.C. and Quantico, Virginia, and Arms
Consultant by Legislative Acr and Govemor's appointment to the
State of Connecticut for their historic weapons collections. He
most recently received appointment to the Board of Overseersof
the U.S.S. Constitution Museum ar rhe Navy Yard, Boston, Masr
achusetts. He has the unique distinction of being the only arms
, ruthority on the editorial,/advisory staffof all three major nation-
al collector publications. Incluclecl among rhe mosr notable col-
lections he has oflicially appraised or caraloeed are rhe lt¡esr
Point Museum at the U.S. Military Acacleml', the famecl Win-
chester (lun Musetr¡n at New Har,en, Oonnecticut, ancl Cody,
\À'roming, the ()etrysbtrrg National Mr¡scum, the venerable Colt
Factory collection at Hartforcl, Con¡recticut, the renow¡red
Kindig collectio¡r of Kcnttrckl,rifles and extensil'c a¡ms and mili-
taria collections at t¡e Cowbol' Hall of Fame, Oklahoma City and
the Sn'rithsonian I nsti tution, Washi ngton, D. C.
\{'idelv knor+n ancl respected irr collecting circles in the United weapons that have appeared in narional publications. His multi-
Statesand abr<¡ad,Norm's catlogs enjoyed the longest consecu- faceted career has often been a subject offeature articles appear-
tire run of any eler issued in the antique arms field...1l7 editions ing in national magazinesand the iopular press ovel- the råa¡s. A
over their 40-year span. The detailed descriptions in them, little known facet of his interest is that in \¡!'orld War I ariadon, a
appearing with the earliest issuesin the 1950s set neÌv standards fìelcl in which he is also considered a competent authorin..
for the hobby. In his five decades of actively buving, selling and The outdoors holds a special fascinatiån for Norm. Ée is a^s
appraising American and European weapons he has handled a much at ease behind the sighrs.of a big bore double-rifle as he is
remarkably broad spectrum of antique and historic firearms, in his professional career. He has stalked big game on safarisin
including some of the grearesr r¿riries. It was his sincere interest manv countries of Africa, rvhere he bagged recorcl trophies;
in the entire range of them that was the stimulus to amass the while Europe, Scandinaria, Canada and Icelancl have ofteri been
immense storehouse of knowledge that is reflected in this book. on his hunting and fishing itinerar¡'. Norm is among the handful
An impressive range of accomplishments for an exceptionally of Americans ro hare hunted high in the CaucasusMotultains of
active career. Add to this a hitch in the U.S. NaW in WWII as an southern Russia and the desolate Gobi Desert of Mongolia and
aerial photographer and later as an officer in the U.S. Air Force. Siberia. Hr,rnting expeditions in the Himalaya.s of Indiã, poland
l\{ore recently, in the 1980s,he served 4 years as Civilian Aide to and Turkey were recently followed bv sporting reks in the
the Secretary of the Army, in which capacity he often represent- "Southern Alps" of Nerv Zealand,and the Australiãn Outback.
ed the U.S. Army and the Secrerary on ofücial businessand func- Each day holds something new and di-fferent for Norm. -{s one
tions. Graduation from Boston University and an earlier of the most knorvledgeable hisrorians in the field of ¡\merican
profession in photography all played important roles in his wide swords and edged weapons he is currentlv working on a manu-
rangrng c¿ìreerm antrque arms. script about thóse subjècs; one which shóuld pro*'e a fine com-
Norm's interests are legion. His book, Scrimshnuand Scrimsha,n- panion to this FI,AYDERLIAN'S GUIDE TO Al,il'IQW AXLERIC"N
d¿rs; Whalzsand Whalemm (the indigenous folkart of the Ameri- FIREARMS. Over the years he has amassed great amounts of data
can whalemen and the history of whaling) is considered the for other pet research projects in the arms field, most kept on
definitive treatise on the subject. He has authored two other "back burners" because of his bus1,schedule. Hopefullr-. they,
books in the collecting field and numerous articles about antique too, will find their way to print in the not too distant future.
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l{ asicto the understanding of the monetaryrralueof antique look alike.A slight differencein markings,placementof screws
¡, arms is the fact that søted figures are purely arbitrary, and or seemingly minor parts all play highly important roles in
thgre is no such thing as a fixedprice. The distussiotrof gurt identification. The reader is urged to check all these minor
ralues is highly subjective-as often are the v¿Iuesthemselves. technical points in the text accompanyingeachmodel after he
Socialand emotional factors often afiect ar¡object'sworth and has identified his piece from the illustration accompanying
in some c¡u¡esto a very great degree. Rarely indeed will trvo that texL To repeat again, the mere fact that a gun does not
expertslook at a specimen and arrive at the exactsamedollar appear listed in this work (or is apparently unique) does not
valuefor it. With tïe more often encounteredguns,thosesame necessarilyindicate it is either a pricelessrarity or an unknown
two expertsmost likelywould arrive atapricewithin l0 percent model. One should conclude that the specificpiece certainly
of each other; the disparity would rarely be more than 20 possessesan interesting potential and is well worth further
percent. A number of reasonsaccount for the seeminglack of research into its background and identification. Although this
consistencyin this hobby as opposed ro rhe more clèar cut, book doescontain more descriptions,modelsand r¡¿rianttypes
definable ñelds of coins, stampsor books.The primary factor than any other of its type ever published, gapsare inevitable.
is the sizeof the field itself, gun collecting doesnot havénearþ
the following of the latter three hobbies, nor does it hrvê TIIE WORD "VAL['E"-A DES(RIPTION
anyruherenear the percent"ge of full-time large dealersissuing
standard catalogs.The smaller known overall market and thé Intrinsic w.lue and monetary r¡alue a¡e often inseparable to
looser interpretation of prices becauseof less published or the collector. The highly subjectivenature of the former and
otherwise mainøined standardsby professionalscombine to the generalnature of this work precludesa discussionof it, and
make for a decidedly more eccentrit market. Equally impor- we shall conf¡ne ourselvespurely to the latter.
tant is the fact that firearms do not neatlyfill a definitegrariing According to Webstø's NanWorld,Dìdìonar;r Value" is "...afair
categoryas do stamps,coins or boolc; this is made even morè or proper equivalentin mone¡ commodities, etc., for some-
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e complex by the mechanical functions which weaponspossess. thing sold or exchanged;fair price. The worth of a thing in
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$ þtly, guns feature many more variables and irregularities money or goodsata certain time; market price. The equivalent
than either stamps,coins or books; most important among (of something) in money. Estimated or appraisedworth or
these are historical associations,inscriptions, manufacturinf price; valuation." The Roget'sIntrnational Tlusaurus allows
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nariations,factory accessories,restorationsand engravings. interchangeable use of value with '...wortÏ, rate, par value,
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In order not to discouragethe reader at this poiñt, it mãy be valuation, estimation, appraisement, money's worth, etc."
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further quite emphaticallyand accuratelystatedthatjust abo,lt Thus, it is obvious there are many interpretations as to what
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every w€apon made does fall within distinct price guidelines comprisesvalue.
É and price categories.These figures are determineã by what For the purpose of this particular work, it is important to be
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previous-weaponsof the same type have brought in the open more specific in the use and definition of this key word. In
market, by-nrhatclosely similar weaponsposséssinga similar order to do so, modification must be made to "fair market
degree oJ demand and rarity have brougirt, or in ùre case of value," a more legalisticsounding term which hasbeen quite
9x-uerr¡ely rare, infrequently traded guns what they would suictty defined (by the DepartÍient of the U.S. Treasury in
bring basedon experiõnce and in the iiew of the influencing their publications concerning appraisals) as "..-the price at
factors discussedwithin this section. which the propert)¡ would change hands ben'r'eena willing
buyer and a willing seller,neither being under anycompulsion
CORRECT IDET$TTFICATION to buy or sell and both having reasonableknowledge of the
relerrantfacts."
Fundamental to establishingvalue is accurateidentification Since there are no rigid fixed rules or formulas in arriving
of the gun. The mere similarity of a piecein contour and shape at the price of an antique or collector's firearm, it maybe said
to _o_nepictured herein or in another referencework, is hardly that the "fair market v¿lue" of such arms is determined by
sufïìcient to conclude that the specimenis identical. Looks are consideringall factorsthat reasonablybear on determining the
dgceivingwhen it comesto determining the fine points of gun price and which would be agreed upon between the willing
identification and, consequently, laluã; jumping at conãlu- buyer and the willing seller who were not under any Pressure
sions is often dangerous and costly. As will be ieen in the to act.
thousandsof guns listed in this book and the many hundreds Having thus injected the word "price" into the discussion,it
of photographs, there can often be great v¿riancesin price may be lõgically assumedthat a current value in U.S. dollars
within a singlemodel or type-which io the casualobserverall. has been assigrredto all guns in this work. It may further be
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factured (conseouentlv their greater availability)
present a quantity manufactured.
solid combination of itributes for collector
demand. Other A curiousand intriguing reality of rarity is the fact that a gun
influencing factors are associationwith historical -,
even6, in- tha.t.was the most impractical and poorþ made during its ti"me
triguing mechanical fearures,a wealth of
f"tìirn.a marcrial and henceunpopular and manufacturedin butsmdlquantity
it easyto co[ect ana iaentry in all its may b9 found to be in this presenr day one of the rarest and
,*:::lï,"T_(making
vanauons), or a very reasonableor low price seeminfly incon_
sistentwith other pieces. sometimesmostv¿luableof collector'sitems,At the samedme
Reducing-theeñtire subject to its very simplest the well made piece in its day, which enioyed substantial
terms: With_ popular sale,often standsin the shadowof tiré former on the
out demand for a piece, iegardless.dr. ri,ï,
it not only will hobblst markel This fact is purely an often inconsistent
bring a very low doliar value,î"t urr Ueeqffi
ãiffrcult to sell. obsery¿tionand is not by an), means a maior determinant in
2. Raritv price; the demand factor stili weighsheaviiv.
It can thus be seen that althõugh.rariÇ
T-.^1:::ii?_: g.:l"ttion will sufficefor our purposes: defined, exrenuaringcircumstancesãxist ls rather simply
"...me qualrtyor condition o-fbeing rare (not frequenily wúich st onglyaträci
found; that rariry as ir relates to pri¡e and are not merely
scarce;uncommon; unusual); specifically,rrrao*.rroa.sr, ïé¿ irrto
city,etc." scar_ numbersoriginally produced.
In gun collectine rarity may alsobe said to
be the frequency -'ÀLo-.rsr,
3. condition
with which u spetiintn ii enéountered.Tñ
ìt ort rr, d,rr rroi last in order as a factor influencing y¿rue,condi-
always'in direct relationship ø 'rt. q"""îäes
in which thai tion-is tt e most often discussedand used word
particular item wasoriginalf'produceä. in relarion to
In a great many
this is simply determinãd; ø't i"tt"".", *n"å"*ai.rì"'a.pttr cases price. Eventhough more objectivein nature than the demand
havebeen made on oarticut"r"r*r, *âå.io.yorgovernmènt ãr'äry r"oors, the subject,atthough easilydefined (....man-
or other records håve been tttti;;;.ì;;;;exact ner or ótate.ofbeirrg,"ú.Uit r), has consiáerablemargin for
quantities dinferencesin opinión as to whar rhat *stateof
produced of specific models rt"ut ¡t"" å.i..*ine¿.^on being" actuary
piecesit is quiìe simnle to atttt-i"ã tàrä,i"î such ;. õ;." a piece is lessthan .facrory new" and the
ori'F fulther that
oi g.o ã*r"y from that condirion, rhe greater the disparity
the various models'and:"lq'Pt;' wihìnä" "react for filãå
*."pons- ärofiñio.rrabãutit.Basichumanfactorsstronglyaffectopin-
which little or no research data'exists,
th.ä.gr.. i""-ä¿ often tend to cotár,rrog-enq tney cannot be dis-
purely subjectiveand is basedo" titrttt "åo.ityl, of counted.Theseileroftheg'nhasanaturalpropensitytorean
*t.-experience
individualswhohavehandledthosesameit.-rroi"torrgti-.
(and are familiar with the fttd;;.y;;tt'*îLn ,ã**¿r over-estimationo-r overdescription of condition-
,h:y3ËË;i *îiË ,r,. buyer is diametricauy opposed and unresscarried
on the market)' or' in some cases,ishighlysp_ecuúÛäl*
basedonly on traditional (and someti;;i;;;".""s) "*äy*rrt.rnLtiorr";;;t;.eptibletosarespitches,wourd
tors'beliefs'Thepassageoftimeandtheinfluxofagrea;;;; collec- norínally tend to underr¿té condirion. It is at this iuncture rhar
new collectors (irooefìrily i"tr"ái"g -""fãìrig.rrt gãåä'rr"trr.a bantering, often playing a domínant role
in
and researchers)shãuld äottcn.re if,. päérr.. students i."rrã.tionr-preceding the sare of any piece,
evolvesinto a
õrcontinuaþ Ããîäi."r.¿ and at times ill-humored debate!
'^'iî;r.
publishing fresh data on American ^tiriq""ir*;;.
contributionswilldispelandtott"ttt"tvi-li:::T3ltt"t"*, fiäZ is good reasonfor the redundancy in our discussion
lng tJrepresentdav collector a much moíe rhroughout this book; the subjectcannotbe
accuratepicrure of treäted "rgri..g"gi.rion
lightly or without a certain amount of repetition in
the relative rariw óf any i"divid"al
Merely knowiie the quantitie-si""ut ;i";;'- order to- impress the reader with its importance. ,{s earlier
i.r, a piece was manu- discussed,a ãecided
facnrred is an insùfücierit basisror po.iti*ty trenJ noticeable in collecting has been
åstaurishing-rela- täÇà*i"g.ondirion-consciousness
tive rarity' several models *ti"'uorr.'iZrI"-"¿. of the market.This is nor
quantities yet are still considered-
"t iniu.ge ;H;;",,lgu.gv¡ory.stgradesdo-notenjoyanypoputarity,
quite *... r*..ñã"i;;å: iä. t.y o:.iaedry do, but coilectors havebeenjustlyeducated
ples are the various smith & wtit""t
Ã"å.
under contract for the Rr1ssi11
L *d i;;kü;;".rnmen-ts
but a handful being retained i" rh. U;-iædTätes_gerreratty
3a "-p"r*.à ü#'"*ortæLtu.eãotrr.lrrn¡..ttostriverowardsgetting
with ttre finest conditioned specimensand are thus in a constanr
srateof "upArading." lt wilt ¡e found that wirh some models
onlyaveryfewofiheoriginall-rugequantitieshav-efiltåedbaci
into the collecting market' rhe"cdlt ã*î ä¿ fluctuarions in degreesof condition often increase
¡er¿an ,itle is consider- *ñi.r''*rrri¿9oÞ]y.
aDIyscarcerthan its ouantity of production Each make and tlpe of gun musr be
*o.rl¿ irr¿i.",",
"" ',tä"äË-",,¿
j;õä individually. A general rule-oÊthumb is: The grearer
:"'üf$ï::'ig:l*'*lm;:'li:t"m,ç"R;;;;; í theprice
change
with
pi-lïl?¡;;*i;.¡*",tdü;iJ.#ìrå.åËäi ": "p.Ço.*.,
Jträi:,..,"iliå.ïffä.*:.".îil1*.l*iJn
rnconsrstentasit chansesfrom oñe degree
o"fconditiorito thá iJË*-rã*..i;ã-,JËilä;å,
next' This occasionalli occurs with a those unfamiliarwirh antique
ñodel manufactured in
very large quantities att¿ ttitl .eaaity sr"r'äa is of extreme importance: ori.ginatfinirhthat aþþears
rounã-;;;-;;iË-..;; ,?.i.ïfirh ,n"u bepresmei at au costs.Any
markeg yet considered scarce,if not rar., in a conditiãn creaningshourd be
that only approximatet lery ã*..iä¿
t.r-, trr, lF t" o."resr of care so as nor to desrroyany of
belnuJor tlæ d¿finitions f.:og:qãiãt;rt"."iÑne ,rr"ii"*¡"i"g finish. Many otherwise fine pieceshavebeen
th" ñRA Co"¿¿r¿o" sìà"d"rd, tu;lt. .""riJå*ury lessenedin vaiire becauseof promiscuousover_
"f
Excellent eximples r.ir..t.
marked colt sinsle Action Army ^Cårr-o*fää;;';. martiriÇ ;Ëtr;
Revälve*; ,hi *äËäi "î.îirT,.r"''ramongthenuancesofunderstandingcondition
marked smith & wesson-singÉ action lÀ*.ri..rrr"
'schofìelds'" ará isjffigtheamountoforiginalfinish;inthemajorityofcases
as well as the Mod?l la¡g a;¿ iaäs sn"Çr
cussion cavalry carbines' All these i.î ,iËîr"tr.,,rrg although orhers inctude casehardenins,brown-
*ttt À"ããl' r¡a19n1blr ing,-nickel or silver plating, etc. Merery establishingor accu-
large quantitiés' widelv issuedand ort
.t t.uwy.rs.ed:4,iF few, r"iér/lrti*"ting rhe percentage of fïnish remaining is not in
if an¡ left in the arsånal stores ;il;-á;;¿,
¡r.t no*". i".rïqîi,. sufücient. A feature that must arsobe taken into
#.î?åtrif
ì'vearand use'In ;f,::åïäff"'r:5'::rïTî";iiþig
theseinstancesthe rarityráctorasit âtrects
iöo,tör"" isthecondition
ofthatoriginar
finish;
whether
dh"d;r;;'ä"î i;1ilä;ïä['r-:äi:1'äåi #il::il::
iäi.îå¿ormärred,etc.TheidenticaIPercenta8eoforiginal
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finish can fall into severaldegreesofcondition. The knack for one-worderswould often be used in catalogingfirearms' Al'
estimatingfinish is quite easilyacquired,but it doesnecessitate though unsatisfactory,they were at least accePtablefor the
actual first-hand experience in seeingand handling the guns most part with no loud grumblings from collectors.This was
themselves. especiallytrue with the less expensiveguns, mzrnyof which
Another interesting observationon the eccentricitiesof the numbered under $50 in those days.As the field grew and the
gun market with respect to "condition" is that the two most demand becamegreater (and consequentlythe prices), the
readily sold typesof guns, and thosewhich experiencethe least need for more detailed descriptions,especiallyfor mailorder
sales¡esistance when they are logically priced, are both the sales,wasquite apparent.It wasone thing to sell a gun for $10
cheapestguns in the worst condition and the very finest guns or $20-if the purchasing party found the piece below his
in the ultimate degreesof condition. The defectivepiecesare expectations,he merelykeptit, sinceto makethe returnwasn't
attractiveboth for their extremely low price and the fact that wolth the trouble. However, with prices ascending,buyers
they havea tremendousfollowing of devoteeswho eqioy doing becamemuch more discriminating, and itwasworth theirtime
their own home gunsmithing (receiving either cashor thera- to send thosemore valuablepiecesbackt Thus, in this dayand
peutic profit). In the caseof the finest piecesthey eventually age, there has evolveda very elaboratemeansfor describing
reach the end of the line and never become alailable again. antique and collectors'firearms accuratelyfor mailorder sales,
The bestquality guns are vanishingfrom the activemarket and and this has generally been the outgrowth of the qntem used
are the subjectof heavycompetition. The greatbulk of antigue in the author's own earlier catalogs.No standard Pattern is
guns availablefall into the condition categoriesbenrreenthese followed by all in the hobby, and there is very little likelihood
two extremes. The "in-betrn¡een"are generally most readily such will ever be the case.The general format developedto
available and are more often "churned" or turnedover bv the describe a firearm is a breakdown into rr¿rious comPonents,
many collectorsin the constant processof upgrading. describing each separately.Thus, for an antique revolver, after
the basic description including barrel length and any special
.TANDARDS FOR GRâDING CONDITION mechanical features or markings, there should be individual
details given for the percentage and condition of original
To understand v¿lues as shown throughout this book, it is finish remaining, the ¿rmountand location of rusting (almost
essentialto establishwelldefined guidelinesforr¡ariousgrades every piece has some even to a minor degree); the condition
of condition. This subject has such wide latitude that a great of the metal, of the markings, and of the grips and the me.
diversion of opinions has alwaysexisted as to what should and chanical functioning of the piece. Any special defects (or
what doesconstitute each degree ofcondition changeaswell attributes!) should also be noted. The buyer is thus lessapt to
as what words should be used to name these degrees. Likely be disappointed after seeing the piece, and the seller will
the subject will never be resolved for the simple matter that minimize the amount of items returned to him witl¡ letters of
firearms have so many variable factors that no one or t$¡o disappointment"
simple words can easily encompasstheir overall condition. As The National Rille fusociation through its committeeson
was stated earlier, once a piece is less than "factory new" and arms collecting has establisheda set of standa¡dsspecifically
as near perfection as possible,opinions as to the exact condi- for antique guns. Although all the words used in these stand-
tion of that piece will vary considerably. ardsor their definitions are not in everydayuseby all collectors
In piractice,i.e., mailorder sales,advertisements,catalogs, or dealers,theseNRA guidelines are the closestto a code that
etc.,simpleone or two word descriptionsof condition havenot the gun collecting ñeld has. They are listed here with the
been found satisfactory.Up to the 1950sor so, these short permission of the NRA
(.-') CONDIT¡ON
STANDARDS
FORANTIQUE
FIREARMS
SIXTHEDITION 27
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E¿¡ry
30 FLAYDERMAN's
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pointing out a few of the more obviousviolationsand how they Where a very fine conditioned piece has been clearly-refin-
ished in ttt"-pt to fool a coliector, the question of intent
---tt¡e bã.detected.
miqht "t should be given original fin-
may be raised. Cårefuti'nsþection
Uati. tenet which follows has proven itself valuable on
ishäs in all cases to äscertaintheir originality.
.o.r"O.tt occasionsand is one which the author Persona\
Examine the gun in a good, strong light- (daylight prefgr-
r"Ur.¡U"t to and recommends: If in doubt, if a piece looks
wrong or has something about it that you cannot Put your ably); should the finish be suspect,a few other areasrequrre
fingei on, if itjust doesnot add up in y.ourmind, the chances closåstudywith a magnifiing giass:( I ) Look for scratchmarks
gun is-wrong-pass ít by. Very-likely a few good pieces or especiá[y light ruit pittinþndernçath the finish' If either
"r.",ft.
mav be
"mistedthis la)', but the law of averageswill prove the is prËsent,ii aÏt ftenni¡od tñe gun hasbeen refinished' Prior
oáti.. a sound one. The mere fact that in looking at a gun to'putting on original factory finish mo-sqmetal Parts are
äne has an uneasy feeling is usually sufücient to indicate polished ãlean and s-ooth and are free of any rust pitting or
somethingis wrong. Whether or not one can Put his finger-on iiny pockmarks.In almosteveryinstancescratchesand pits are
thesevibãtions is unimportant; the worst one can do at that ac{úitea after the gun has naã its original -factoryfinish' -(2)
pointis w to rationalizeiomething thatis badinto being good, Loäk very closelyaiatt edgesand markings.In order to realize
ånd hereís*here thoseoldwives talescome into playlike ""'it's a quality refinish, the mãtal must be cleaned and polished
sot to be good becauseof where it came from" or ""'no one *róroughty. In so doing some sharpnesswillusually leave.the
iould takã the time to make that kind of fake" or "..'the price edgesfmost noticeablJon octagonbarrels),and.the markings
is so reasonableit couldn't be wrong." Emotions may causean arJoften lightened or evenpaniallyworn away.With markings
otherwiseastutebuyer to becomecarried away,makingexcuses once sharp'and deep, the édgesof the die struck impres'sion
to rationalize very obvious telltale clues such ascolor changes, are quite ôft"tt tonttã.d and smoothedover' (3) On revolvers
patin-a,signsof pitting, etc. If time permits and other krrown standard with roll engraved scenes on the cylinder' a very
äxamples-areaiaitaUte for comparison, there is certainly a careful inspection of th-isfeature shouldbe madefor sharPness
lood'basis for verifiing the piete thoroughly. Often when and clarity.Anywear,especiallyifuneven,beneatha blue finish
'confronted with the chillenge of a possiblefake, one's hopes .would cléarþ indicate ihe piece wastampered with and very
of what one would like the gun to be takesprecedenceover likely refinished.
goöd judgment. In other words, the buyer becomeshis own
worst enemy. B. MARIqNGS AND NTJMBERS
The pathi down which the expert restorer-and fo¡ger have
traveleåare many.The subject ii one which has been treated Markings are critical featuresinjudging rarity and value of
in print frequentiy over the yearsand is certainþworth a mqior an antiqué gun and should be carefullyscrutrnized'Numbers
studyone aäy.Foilowingare somepointswhich the authorhas are equally critical, but only on specificmakes of guns-not
fouid to be-the most pertinent in the matter of alterations' all. Róom'for wrongdoing existsin each area, andit may be
Someotherfactors involung restorationsandfakesare beyond generally said that ihe altération or "imorovement" of mark-
the realm of our coveragehére, but are worth bearing in mind' i-ngsis usually done with the intent to deceiveand p-ossiblyeven
Theseinclude suchintriguing subjectsaswelding, brazingand de-fi'aud.The matter becomesrather hazy though, once the
barrel stretching (that is, restoring shortened barrels to their gun leavesthe originalwrongdoer's handsand is traded down
original length), alteringgunsfrom one model to another and the line. Whethei the original parry who made and sold the
reriorking centerfrre revolvers to rimfire models (as in a very piece told the next buyer what had been done is very much a
few typesãf Coltsand Smith &Wessons).The readerwill often moot point by the time the piece has been in general circula-
heaimerition of using X-raysto detect certain typesof fakcs' tion and pasied through a few hands. At that juncture the
This is an excellentmèthod, but due to general inaccessibility importance for the purPosesof this book is not to comment
and time limitations it is not utilized with any degree of on the gun's unethical manufacture,but how the unsuspecting
purchasermay detect thoseincorrect marksor numbers which
f j ,Èequency.
Änorc'to bear in mind on polishing ànd refrnishing:When õonsiderably detract from r¡alue and rarity. An inexpensive
confronted with a gun that has been heavily polished or has pocket magni$ing glassis an indispensableaid and should be
been entirely refinished, a danger signal should flash in one's þan of every collector's tool kit. Inspect all markings thor-
mind. Both of these.features,although not indicating the item ôughly; the more important they are for the gun, the closer
has necessarilybeen tampered with, should call for a closer they should be studied.Checkfor sharpness,depth and clarity'
inspection.Polishing and refinishing can conceala multitude If the gun is heavilyworn but the markingsare sharp 1d gf_ea1'
of iins. By removing the normal patina and aging of the gun, this obvious inconsistencyindicatesthat some work has likely
the faker can obscure r¡arious areas that might have been been performed. Markings should showthe sameevenwear or
worked over and such arms should be closelyinspected' rust pitting and corrosion found on the rest of the gun.
Restamping or "freshening" the markings is not n_ormal]-y
A.REFINISHING consideied an assetor an improvement and most often will
deÛact from the value.Worsestill, any altering of markings to
Refinishingantique gunsis generallyfrownedupon; in quite ones that never appearedon the gun is completely fraudulent.
a few instancèsit actuallydetractsfrom value,resulting in a less Where remarking hasbeen done with die stampsitwill easily
desirableand lessvaluableitem (eventhough good money has showup under a magni$ing glassasinconsistent.In most cases
beenspentfor the refinish). The practirceof ry1king 1_relatively where die stampsare usedbyforgersto re-mark or fraudulently
worn gun, or one that has been heavily used,look like new is mark a piece, they are singleor individual dies, and the letters
rathei incongruous, and the effect on the gun is quite the will appèar quite unevenwhen magnified. The original manu-
same.Any antique item, especiallya gun, used,and no longer factuiérs normally had stamps or rolls made on complete
new,should look its age and stand on its own merits.Reñnish- singledieswhich had averyeven,regularappearance.Itshould
ing is akin to taking aì SGyear-oldman and dressinghim in be iemembered, though, that the rarer and more v¿luablethe
thé clothes of a teenager. Such a gun is, of course, simply piece, the more effortìhe exPertforger will expend to fake iq
detectedand, for the most part, has the samevalue refinished ihus, in some casesentire dies simulating those of the manu-
asunrefinished.However, the restored statushaschangedthe facturer have been made. Fortunatelythe use of these sophis-
weapon'sdemand and desir¿bility on the collectors' market. ticated dies is rare in comparisonto the single stamp method.
32 GUIDE
FLAYDERMAN'S
If the forger has freshened or re-marked the piece by hand have bee.n especially
prolifìc with fancy engraved guns while
engraving in, a similar style to the original die jtamp, tiris wiU the inscribed
presentation pieces have become moË frequent
quite easilyshowup urrder a,magnifyingglass;the cånsistency only in recent
ye-ar-sas historical specimens have acquiied a
ot ttre_handengraved markings are quite obviouslydiffereni greater degree
ofdemand and significance, The presence of
than those of the stamped mãrkings. If well done, the hand either fancy
engraving or historic inscriptions loiboth) aads
engraved marks might fool the naked eye when not viewed considerably
to the value of any gun, and hence, it is in both
closely,.but.areimpossibleto srand up unãer magnification. these areas that special care should be given in judging origi-
Another investigatoryavenuefor the verificatiõn of authen- nality. It does
take experience and practice to distinguish goõa
tic marking-sis any sign of age appearingwithin them, a detail from bad,
and fortunately the mqjority of fakers leave telltale
seenbest with magnification. If a gun haswear of any type, its clues and
are inept enough to allow for quick and easyspotting
markings should show the exact samepercentageof wéaì and of their handiwork.
fu in any group of craftsmen (the word ii
normal rust, pitting or corrosion, dents,scratchmarks or mars used here loosely),
there are degrees of talent; it is with the few
ofany form found on that samearea ofthe gun proper, clever, artistic workers that one must rely on the most expert
The collecting world has been consistentf wamed about a eye to differenriate
^ a bad piece.
few specific_typesof American anns which Éavebeen forged A few basic details to check are: (1) The style ofengraving.
and regrlarly appear on rhe marker. This book will cail süch Some styles
were not used in the period of manufacture whil,e
piecesto the readers'attention whereverpossible.A few ofthe others are purely modern in form, shape and desþ and even
most notorious types are worth discussiõnhere. Most often appeaf incongnrous
on antique guns. The word style applies
seen and most often written about is the Model lg42 percus_ to both decorated
and engraved guns as well as to the présen-
sion.U.S.rnartial pistol
þearing ?almerto Armory{olumbia, tation or historical inscriptions on them. Several styles of
S.C,' markings.Counterfeit diei were made by someunnamed lettering
are purely modern in form and appearance and
forger to resemble the original markings foí t¡is model; the therefore
could not be contempo¡Ìrry on antique guns. The
forger took the standard Model lg42 tj.S. pistol with either study
of known original specimens as well as considerable
Johnson or Aston markings; ground them offon both barrel literature on the subject is helpful in determining background.
and lock and then restampeã rhese parts with the false pal_ (2) The
wearand aging on either the engraving-or theìnscrip
. ) metto markings, afterwardsaging the gun. Armed with fore_ tion should
be consistent with the rest of the gun. Some
Il"*l9OS. and awareness,rhese1!n: are quite easyto spoL e1q-aved or inscribed specimens have been refinished, many
The dies do not match the ori_ginalpalmetto ma¡ki"gr.*"';try
of them in gold and silver plating. Remember, refinishes often
and, as is the casewith most fákes,the faker cannoiperfectly cover
a multitude ofsins beneath, some ofwhich can no longer
achieve the aged patina on the metal. To detect this lattei
be seen. When these refïnishes appear on deluxe specimens,
teature, though, does take some experiencein distinguishing
they should serve as a warning to inspect the gun clôser.
betr¡'eenfalseand genuine patinas.
_ Asecond gun known to havehad its marks counterfeited is D. RECONVERSIONS
the Model 1842 boxlock U.S. Navy_p-ercussion pistol bearin!
"Deringer - Philadelphia" markings.Here too théfaker
hashaã The subject of reconversions often creates heated, emo.
ores srmrlar to the original made. By taking the more often
tional discussions. One such topic of debate is that of restoring
encountered Ames marked 1842 pistols, removing the lock_ flindock
guns that were converred (c. 1830s-l840s) to thé
plate markings, and restriking-therirwith the Derinþer die, he
percussion ignition system and have been returned to their
has made a more r¡aluable(if undetected) piece. Ãgain,
the original flintlock condition by gunsmiths in this modern era.
key features ,9..,ï¿y a1etfe sharpnessof íhL markin"gs,their
The practice has iæ protagonists and its antagonists. Although
pistol's overall condition and thã patina reconversions-are by no means thought
:îîï,.".y Tir¡^rhe
ot the mehl. Of course, the very best method is to have unethical, it is strongly
a suggested and recommended that the fact of reconversionLe
genuine specimen for comparisón since spurious markings
made known by the seller. Ethical codes suggest an internal
would not match the originaì when closelyviewed.
lock marking by the restorer to indicate such lork. Only with
yp"."f S-"_lnot infrequently seenwith fake markings are the
i ' ) { considerable rarity has the author encountered a specific
sized Henry. Dgrig.l'Philadelphi4 percussiõn pistols instance of such markings being made. As for disclosure to the
||:y
teaturing agent/dealer barrel stampings.On riiese the lock a¡rd buyer, that
can be likened to the other repair and restoration
?:eech-markings (of the maker) are usually genuine. Further work previously mentioned in which thê whole matter be-
appearsin the section pertaining to deringer pistols; comes a moot point
it^.H:"
me pK9 matkings are normally detected in the samemanner once the gun is in general circulation and
as has passed through three or four hands. By then whateverwork
on ttle toregoing Palmetto and Deringer tlæes.
was performed has either been accidentally or purposely for-
Serial numbers are critical øth cãrtaín models and makes gotten,
and the piece must stand on its own ounuard appear-
of guns while on others they bear very little importance. The
ance. As with other restoràtive work-there are good woilimen
most noteworthy make where serialsplay a proirrirrerrtrole
i, and bad workmen. A hack's handiwork is quite obvious; and
the Colt. Where serial numbers are requiräd to match one
the m4jority of the pieces encountered are amateurish. It is
another and are part of the valuation_pioc.r., tne stampinls
with the work of experts that the buyer must be especially
should be looked ar very carefully. Ni¡mberi ãre subject to
careful; quite proper it is to say that all flintlocks should be
deceptivepracticesand aiterationsio improve value;a few fine
'ihe inspected closely.
points about them are worth noting. subject has been There is no firm formula for pricing a gun that has been
at length-in the textuat *iæ¡"1accJmpanying the converted from flintlock
1t::::::_9 to percussion. On U.S. martial hand-
Liolt section of this book, to which the reader is re-ferrã¿.-tt¡is
guns or longarms percussion conversions can vary from 40
samediscussionas it perrains to Colt is applicable to all other
percent to 70 percent of the price of the piece for the same
guns in which numbers are important.
model in flintlock; it is dependent on the relative rariry and
demand for each individual model. With other Çpes of arms
C. ENIGRAVING AND INSCRIPTIONS
such as very fine Kentucky rifles or guns ofexceptional qualiry
or possessing unique features, the fact of a conversion may
,1.
_ -Iî
worked l,eas of gngraving and inscriptions the forgers have affect value to an even lesser degree; each piece must be
with considerablesuccessfor quite a few yeãrs.They ev¿luated on its own merits, importance and special attributes.
SIXTHEDITION 33
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The price differential between an original flintlock and a singledetail is in itself conclusiveevidenceof restoraúonwork.
restored flintlock is often considerable,no matter how fine the As an example, consider the matter of touchhole; on original
job ofrestoration. But a reasonableand accuratereflecúon of flintlocks thè touchhole wasenlargedfrom veryheavywearand
the general feeling of the collectors' market is that a fine use to the point where rebushing was necessaryduring the
restoration to aflintlock enhancesboth the appearanceaswell period ofits original use.Thus, it is necessaryto take all factors
as the value of the gun. Collectors and dealers in general, into account when passingjudgment on flintlocks.
though, are quite emphaticin stating that no matter how good
the restoration to flintlock, that piece is never worth the same E. BORES: RERIFLINGAND SLEEVING
as the original flindock specimen.Generally its v¿lue should
be that ofthe percussionconversionplus whateverchargesare Boresare an important e\r¿luatingdetail of sometypesof arms.
involved in restoring it to flintlock, plus possiblya small pre- When this feature plap such a role, it is important to watch for
mium or percentage above that if the work is of excellent inconsistencieswhièh would indicate alterationshavebeen made.
quality. Thus, if a flintlock U.S. musket is worth $750 and that With many of the later single shot breechloading ta¡get rifles or
sàme-piece as a percussion conversion is worth $250, the lever-action repeating rifles, calibersa¡e often marked (but not
specimen that hasbeen reconvertedprobably would be worth on the barrel by the factory.A primary checkwould consist
anyrvherefrom $325to $500depending on the quality and cost "l*yt)
of veri$ing that the gun is in is originat marked caliber and
of the restoration.When a restored piece is being offered and chambers a round for which it was originally intended. If not,
priced as an original flintlock, the questionable practicesand there are clear indications that the bore was either shot out,
intent of the seller arise. A few basic procedures helpful in rerifled and rechambered to soniething elsecloseto the original
distinguishing reconversionsare: (l) Alwaysremove the lock caliber, or possibly changed at the whim of the original owner
completely. (2) Closely examine the type of flashpan and during its period of r¡se.In either event,price is seriouslyaffecæd
method of attachment to the lock. That part Presentstl¡e most in terms of the weapon'scollectibility. The piece certainly contin-
diffrculty to the restorer, and it is there where the most obvious uesto havevalue, but the figure is considerab\rlessthan if in the
., 'løle signsand defectswill appear. The primary stepwould original "asmade" caliber.
f . to ascertain what type offlashpan wason the gun originally; The most often encountered bore alteration is sleevingor
with martial flinttocks a simple matter to check from several relining. The original barrel is reamedor bored out, and a new
illustrated books and articles.The method of attaching the pan liner is inserted and rifled to the desired size.Generally this
and its general appearanceand ñt are clues which suggesthow sleeving or lining was done to suit the personal taste of the
long it has been on the gun. Remember that the flashpan is owner/shooter, whoseconcern wasmore with its functioning
one part liable to much wear and to black powder corrosion; than its collector's appeal.However,relining merely to better
the latter should be consistentand even on both the pan and the appearanceand quality of an antique or collector's piece
the surrounding lock parts, all details quite evident when the is not unknown. Only rarely is it possible to determine the
lock is removed. Other telltale clues are the false aging or acid reasonsforreboring or relining on a gun, but usuallythis was
aging colors on the inside of the lock (if a new Pan has been to take the place of or cover up a barrel defecr
frtted), and possiblythe absenceof anypitting or rust corrosion In many casesrelining work is obvious and telltale signs
on the inside of the lock, particularly when such signs are indicate the nature of the work. Most noticeableare the marls
visible on the exterior of the pan iaelf. (3) Other lock parts seenat the muzzle or the breech of the barrel liner itsel4 the
should be closelyinspectedfor aging consistentwith the rest small seamvisible benÂreen the huopiecesof metal. Fine weld-
of the lock. However,suchsignsin themselvesdo notpreclude ing, though, can concealthis, and it is then a matter of verifying
that the piece is original as some of these pafis could merely the rifling and the caliber. This may be diffrcult and is not
be replacements.(4) A key factor in establishingoriginality of alwayspossible,but other sþs may serveastip-offs that some-
a flindock is the touchhole, an areawhere the restorersoften thing hashappened. If one is familiarwith the rifling of certain
çail miserably. Normally on converting to percussion, the flint- manufacturers,then looking down the bore is sufücient to give
/'. i !k touchhole was enlarged considerably in order to affix a clues that the piece is suspect;liners rarely match original
.rärge metal part (drum or bolster) to hold the percussion rifling. Kentucky rifles and other muzzleloaders are often
nipple. To restore this back to flintlock, the large aperture or found with smooth bores (astheir rifling wasshot out by use),
hole left by the nipple and drum has to be closed and a new and liners will sometimesbe found. Besidesthe telltale clues
touchhole bored. Often one can easilydetectsignsofthe larger of seammarks at the muzzle,a good tipoffis condition of the
hole having been bushed with telltale signs where the new rifling, usually perfect and like new and thus inconsistentwith
metal has been fitted. In other casesclever welding and aging the normal overall wear of the rest of a piece which likely had
can concealsuchclues.The bestway to veri$ the touchhole is its bore shot out.
to remove the breech plug and tang from the barrel and The more a gun's v¿lue is dependent on bore, the more
examine the area from the inside. This, though, is quite diffr- detrimental to price will be a lining or sleevingjob. Relined
cult to accomplish and sometìmes is not worth pursuing. breechloading arms of modern vintagewould havetheir value
Another method is the X-ray,a rarely used technique because lessenedconsiderably whereas the more antique or mr¡zzle-
of its inaccessibilityaswell astime and cost factors.The touch- loading pieces (of course, depending on the type) are less
hole itself must be looked at closely, and if the gun shows affected,Two casesin mr¡zzle-loadingarms where sleevingor
considerableuse and wear from firing and the touchhole is relining alters the price drastically downward are with heavy
tiny with sharp edges,there is a decided inconsistency;nor- percussionbench rest slug rifles or fine target rifles. With both
mally the touchholewearsand enlargeswith the greateruseof typesrifling and bores are critical and specimensare actively
the gun. (5) Verification of the fit of the lock should be sought becauseof the quality of their rifling and the makerst
carefullystudied.Somereconversionshavebeen cleverþ made names that appear on them. Any alteration of bores affects
by merely installing a completelynew and original flintlock to price strongly.
the gun. Besideschecking the area of the touchhole as pre-
viously discussed,the endre aperture or mortise in the gun F. AGINGAND PATINA
srock that holds the lock should be carefully scrutinizedfor
new cuts or filled in areas. One of the most often used words in antique collecting in
All the foregoing are but the most obvious checkpoints; no general and guns in particular is "patina." The dictionary
34 cutoE
FLAYDERMAN's
T defines it as'-.any thin coating or color change resulting from
F
value. Theymaybe simplypart ofavery legitimate restoration
age, as on old wood; a fine crust or film on bronze or copper; orblending-overofaveryminorand honestrepair.Where they
is usually green or greenish blue and is formed bv nátural attempt to hide and conceal factors likely to significantly
oxidation." For arms collecting purposes, patina is ihe color influence the value of that particular weapon, they are very
formed by natural aging on wood or metal. It is to collecting much indicators to the buyer that he should proceed with
4 wh_aq is to whisky or wine. A collector's practiced eyé caution.
-ag_ing
quickly learns discern genuine patina formedbnþ by genu-
_to
ine aging vs. a false or faked patina caused by chemical or õther G.REPRODUCTIONS
agents. The knack for knowing patina is acquired through
experience and involves quite a few subtleties; none of them
Quite a few faithfully copied, modern made reproductions
diflicult to masrer. It may be likened to a jeweler with the of anúque arms are on today's market. The great majority are
acquired talent of discerning various shadesof coloration to of antique Colt revolvers, but others are based on Remingtons,
seeking the ultimare blue-white in a diamond. With practice Sharps, Smith and Gallager carbines, Civil War 186l muskets,
and exposure, the art can be skillfully mastered. the French Model 1763 Charleville musket, the famed British
AII woods and all metals age differently. As they age, they flintlock Brown Bess musket and many individually crafted
agquire color changes. In woods this is usually by absorption Kentucky rifles and pistols. More will come as muzzleloading
of pains, dyes, stains, grease, dirt in the hand that has rubUed shooting, the fast growing hobby in the fìrearms field, contin-
it and any other number of materials, changing humidities and ues to mushroom. All these reproduction guns have been
temperatures, Iight,
1!r and bmoke, etc. With metals, patina is made with the most honor¿ble intentions for the v¿st black
usually caused by oxìdation; in iron, aging brings rust causing powder market, including those groups specializing in battle-
a turn to brown; in brass or copper, the turn is to a very darÈ field skirmishes and reenactments. As to be expected, the
greenish color. There is no single exact shade or coloration of temptation was great for the untalented faker to try his hand
various patinas; just general tones and ones to which the with these reproductions, and thus a small number of spurious
practiced eye very much responds! examples have found theirway to the antique gun market and
The subject of aging and parinarion is covered in quite a few a¡e sold as originals. They are found with the modern makers'
-
books on antiques in general and in the Harold L. peterson markings removed and in a beat-up, battle-worn appearance
work Hottt Do You Knou lt's Old? in particular; the reader is with applied false patinas..Faked reproduction guns represenr
referred to these reference works. Our intention here is merelv neither a threat to the collecting world nor to the forewarned
to advise of the imporrance of this fearure and the fact that collector, and in every case known to the author, the buyer
patinas are the source of highly important clues io both resto- exercised the most imprudentjudgment in acquiring such a
rations and fakery. piece. As a mqjority of the reproductions are Colts, the subject
Perfectly matching age patina is practically impossible; a few is treated in greater detail in the text accompanying the Colt
very expert workmen have come close (and those that might section of this book, to which the reader is referred.
have done so are obviously so good that no one as yet has bé=en
able to telll).In the process of restoration it may 6e necessary BIBLIOGRAPHY
to clean metal orwood in the area repaired to the pointwherå
patina is altered or destroyed; the *Ackerman, k O. &re and Rcþair of Muzzl¿Load"ers.
þatina musr ìhen be re- Albuquer-
stored- Thus, if a piece under careful inspection shows rr¿ri- que, New Mexico: Muzzle Loader's Library, 1966.A small24
ances in patination, this is usually a good sign that alterations page monogtaph directed to the person who can accom-
were made and further investigation is in order. A standard plish thejob with but basichand tools.
agent for aging on iron is acid. In var''rng strengths *Ackley, P. O. HomeG,m &re and Reþair.Harrisburg, Pennsyl-
1tincia-t
and formulas acids create parterns of pitting wÉch"are geäer- vania: The StackpoleCompan¡ 1969. A manual that has
ally inco.rrect, differing dècidedly from thã normal p"o gone through numerous printings, Contains some good
terns still present on the gun. "S;
material on repairsand maintenance of collector guns.
i') Again the waming is repeated here that the buyer should be
extremely wary of pieces that have been polished bright or
*Angier, k H. FirearmBlueingand,Brouning. Harrisburg, Penn-
sylvania:The StackpoleCompan¡ 1936.Practicalmanualon
refinished. Whatvery likely happened is thai repairs weremade
the chemicaland heat coloring of aII barrel steelsand other
where itwas impossible to match patina and thus, the restorer gun metalsfrom earliest soft carbon to the latest"rustless."
merely destroyed all existing patina giving the piece a new and Basic@tn Repair,SimplcHottrTo Method,s. Los Angeles:Petersen
consistent finish to conceal the work. Publishing Company,1973.Written for the beginner;shows
in itself is a very desirable finish, particularþ on iron someof the stepsnecessaryin getting started.Somesections
.Patina
when it has turned a nice, smooth, even browniih color. devoted to antique restoration.
Although caused strictly by rusting and aging over the years, Bish, T. L. Hom¿&tnsmithingDigest,srd Edition. Northbrook,
mese shades of brown are often very rich, and they lend the Illinois: DBI Books,Inc., 1984.Wide coveragefrom repair-
Piece averymellowpleasingappearance, There are no maxims ing, modi-fring,converting to maintaining andjust "tinker-
on acceptable patina, very much a matter of personal prefer- ing" with firearms.
ence, but a general consensus is that when aþiece has a fine *Bro¡vnell, k GtnsmithKlzËs.Montezuma, Iowa: F. Brownell
patina, it should certainly be left intact and in no way marred
& Son Publishers,1969.Varied accumulation of shortcuts,
or destroved.
techniquesand commentsby professionalgunsmiths.
The cieation of false patina is usually by means of a *Burch, M. Qtn Careand Reþøir.New York: WinchesterPress,
chemical. With iron the tã¡hnique is mosi ofíen some type 1978. Step-by-step*how-to" in words and photos on
ol:u:tilg or combination browñing and rusting solutioáïf gunsmithing techniques.
which the formulas ur" n,-t*e.or-=s. Their prirpose is to *Carmichel, . Do It YounelfGunsmithi.ng.
J New York: Harper &
create in a few days or weeks an appearance eqúal to what Row, 1977. 40 do-it-yourselfinstallments by the respected
would normally require years of h-onest use or äging. With shooting editor of OutdoorLife.
woods, stains and varnishes are usually used to ai=teript the +Chapel, C. E. Conþl¿teGuid¿To Gunstnithing:Gun Careand
same thing. These processes are.not necessarily detrimental
Repaàr. Cranbury,NewJersey:A. S. Barnes& Co., Inc., 1962.
to an antique gun, nor do they necessarily detract from
Has gone through many printings. Wide coverirgefrom the
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.45-70Springfield
Introduction
This book is intended to help the collector determine if the .45-70
Springfield which he or she intends to buy, or already possesses,is
authentic and correct for the period in which it was manufactured.
The prices of .45-70 Springfields are rising quickly as they gain
nertr recognition among collectors. A .45-70 carbine from the
so-c¿IledCuster Period (prior to June 1876)is easilyworth several
thousand dollars. Certain later period .45-70s are approaching
similar price levels. Whenevera commoditybecomesthis valuable,
plenty of unscrupulous people appear willing to forge and fake to
steal your money. The fake .45-70 SpringfÏeld Carbine has been
the scourgeof the beginning collector for more than forty years.
With this book in hand you can no,fl examine each separate
oomponent of a .45-70 Springfield rifle, cadet rifle, carbine or
round rod bayonet rifle and determine when each and every part
was manufactured and indeed, whether it is a "real" or "fake"
.45-70Springfield.
To assistyou, we list each oomponenton the following pagesand
show you how to identiff its pe¡iod of manufacture.Obviously, a
rifle manufactured in 1884 would not have been issued with a
Model 1877rear sight.
We have given measurements in decimal inches only because
i ) many dimensions are too fine for the English system.We suggest
you acquire a 6 inch machinist's scale at a hardware store, which
measuresin 10ths and 100thsofan inch. The techniquesdescribed
may not follow good engineeringpracticesbut they do reduce the
amount of disassemblyrequired.
A word of caaÍrbn:The period in which the .45-70 Springfield was
manufactured(1373-1893)was an era of financial instability, tighr
money and tighter government budgets. When a particular
.45-70Springfield
Note: The authors have included a form at the end this book
to assistyou in docuinentingyour .45-70 Springfield. The
form may be freely copied and distributed. The authors
would appreciatereceivinga copy of your completed form
for our computerizeddata base on .45-70 Springfields.
The information will be used to improve knowledge of
this fine American military arm. And it will also be used
to revise later editions of this book.
Finally, the authors strongly suggesrthar you equip yoursetf with
the following aides when anaþing a .45-70 Springfield, or
considering one offered for sale: small tape measure, 6 inch
{" ", machinist's scale, screwdriver with interchangeable narrow and
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wide blades, magni$ing glass-preferably with a built in
light-and bore light. And, sinceit is not possiblero c¿¡rryaround
a library describing the .45-70Springfield, this book.
We hope this book proves helpful. We would appreciate any
comments,or informationyou might care to add.
.45-70Springfield
After circa serial #60,000, the letters are 0.130 inches high and
the eagleis 0.270 inches high. If measuredfrom top of the
"'V' to the bottom of the eaglq the overall height should
be 0.560inches.
Examine the area around the sight stud carefully. The join of
the stud to the barrel should be almost invisible. During
manufacture, the sight stud was inserted into a milled
cutout in the barrel and brazed in place. If the barrel is
i i not worn or pitted, a squarisharea surrounding the sight
stud should be detectible only by its different texture.
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.45-70Springfield
BreechBlocks
Breech blocks for the .45:70 Springfietd rifle, carbine and cadet
are identical and interchangeable.The breech block assembly
consistsof the following parts: Bre€chBlock, Breech Block Screw,
Cam l¡tch, Cam latch Spring, Firing Pin, Firing Pin Spring
(omitted circa serial #85,000), Firing Pin Screw,Thumb Pieceand
BreechBlock Cap.
There are sevenvariations of the .45-70Springfield Breech block.
¡':-.';;, Appearance
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The breech block was machinedto shapefrom a single metal bar.
The hole,s for the firing pin and the c¿m latch assembly were
drilled. The firing pin hole anglesdown and to the left so that the
point of the firing pin projects from the front center of the breech
block.
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Hammer-
Bridle and
Tumbler
Spnn*
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Mainspring
The mainspringwas for-
ged from spring steel,
then hardenedin oil and
tempered. No changes
were madeto the main-
springduring its service
life.
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.45-70Springfield
This butt plate was used from circa serial #155,000 to the end
of production.
Butt plate screwsare 1.5 inches (bottom) and L.Z inches (tang)
long.
NOTE: Watch for fake cadet rifle butt plates made from
reshapedrifle butt plates. The tang length and width and
the positioning of the screwholes are the same.If you see
(. grinding marks and uneven edgeswhere the butt plate was
_) narrowed and shortened, it was not manufactured at the
National Armory.
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.45-70Springfietd
Stocks
Stocks that have been refinished will often show rounded edges
and sanding marks. Examine suspectedareas with a magniffing
glass.Metal parts inlerred into .45-70Springfield srocksare always
slightly below the surface in fine to new condition fïrearms.The
wood may have worn down even with metal parts on .45-70
Springfields that have seen hard service.If the metal parts project
above the surface and stock edgesare rounded, the stock may have
been refinished.
Stock cartouches,or some part of them, should be visible on all
but the most service-wornstocks. Inspection cartouchesare often
worn partially away on carbinesby the action of the carbine sling
snap hook which generallyrubbed a groove behind the sling bar. If
the subinspector's cartouche or the fïring proof (script p in a
circle) is not visible, check the stock carefully for signs of
t , j refinishing.
NOTE: The authors are aware of at least trvo sourcesfor ,.fake"
cartouches. Original c¿rtouchesproduced very fine lines when
stamped into the stock. The fake cartouches produce heavy lines
and often depressthe wood around the borders.
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ProhibitionistsAttemptto B .GunShowsat ContraCostaCountyFr ìrounds Page1 of2
Following is an excellent article by one attendeeand the text of a speechby Duane Darr which drew a
standingovation.Enjoy ...
' -.\ Proponentsof the ban included the usual cast of charactersfrom Handgun Control, Inc. and its spin-offs:
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\., ,.1 Legal Community Against Violence and the Pacific Center for Violence Prevention. Their allies, the
Contra CostaCounty League of Women Voters and the OaklandÆastBay Junior League,addedthe
local flavor to the gun grabbers'San Francisco-basedroad show.
The low point of the evening came when Andres Soto, of the Pacific Center for Violence Prevention,
menacingly pulled a dummy hand grenadeout of his shoulderbag, stating he purchasedit at a gun show.
Two sheriffs deputiesstood poised restrain Mr. Soto should the need arise. The crowd remainedcalm.
"'\ Obviously, Mr. Soto missed the irony that flourishing even a dummy hand grenadeat a public meeting
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\-.-./ is a direct, violent threat to public health and safety. Shameon you, Andres!
Coming on the heels of Don Gage'svictory in the Santa Clara County Supervisor'srace, the Contra
Costa County Fairgrounds Board decision to continue gun shows underscoreswhat gtassroots citizen
action can do to make a difference. Kudos to Fair Board membersJeff Weidemann, Tom Cogburn, Paul
Lamborn, Louis Mangini, Lynette Tanner and Jack Roddy.
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Good evening;
I notice in the room the usual representativesfrom the various anti-gun show groups - Handgun Control,
Inc., the Legal Community Against Violence, the Pacif,rcCenter For Violence Prevention, Californians
For ResponsibleGun Laws, etc. However, tonight, they look a little uncomfortable.You see,open
public hearingsare not what they prefer. They would rather meet behind closed doors with local
officials when giving their presentations;thus, avoiding public discussionand questioning of their
statements.That is how they operatedwhen they came to my county, SantaClara.
They know they have no evidence showing that the Antioch gun show is detrimental to this community.
The fact that they can form a coherentsentencecontaining the words gun show, youth violence, and
crime is not proof that a connection exists! They are attempting to convict you people of the community,
who attendthe gun show, of contributing to the problems of this county, while failing to presentany
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) evidenceagainstyou.
I will limit my remarks to only documentedbenefits and risks to this community by the Antioch gun
show. Anything less would be hearsay,speculation,or innuendo.
Documentedbenefits:
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risksto this communityby gun showsat this Fairgrounds:
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Documentedrisks, none! Not one documentedrisk.
Last year, Handgun Control's Assistant Director Barrie Becker (who is now the Executive Director of
the Legal Community Against Violence) went on record as admitting "...there are not yet definitive
studiesdocumentingillegal salesat gun shows,...."
But let's talk about the real reasonthey are here tonight. It is their simple minded belief that guns cause
violence. Once this dogma becomesaccepted,the focus is directed not at criminals, but at legal
purchasesby law abiding citizens. Their approachpurposely blurs the distinction between the legitimate
and criminal use of firearms.
Our battle to reduce crime and violence is then deflectedto their elite lead crusadewhich attemptsto
increasingly restrict or eliminate legal salesby any meanspossible. The weaponsthey use include
misinformation and collusion with council membersand supervisors.Progressin their crusadeis
measuredby the number of local ordinancespassedand gun shows banned,rather than crimes prevented
and casessolved.
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