No Topics On Fake Victims - Injuries - Actors Allowed

No topics on fake victims/injuries/actors allowed
By Ken Doc on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 6:38pm
*** READ THIS BEFORE POSTING IN THIS FORUM *** Based on a poll conducted among group members, the majority of us, including all admins, agreed on a consensus that discussions of fake victims, injuries, and actors are debunked effectively and will not be entertained here. Bringing up topics of this matter will be grounds for thread deletion and/or removal from the group. Pretty much the only rule here, and no insults, spamming, advertising, etc. Thanks. Below are a summary of the poll and its results. ______________________________________________ A poll was posted in this group on whether to allow discussion about "Fake Victims". It was pinned to the Top of this page for 48 hours and the results were a landslide. The final tally on May 16th, 2013 at 12:00pm est was YES's - 20 (30.8%) and NO's - 45 (69.2%). It is in the best interests and Group consensus that "Fake Victims" discussion will no longer be tolerated in this group. We feel that it is divisive, distracting and discredits all the hard work researchers have contributed to the page. Not to mention a total lack of respect to the victims that were injured and killed on that day. If new evidence does emerge that "Fake Victims" were used in the Boston Bombings, it will be brought forth and discussed more. Thank you for being a member of the Boston Marathon Bombing Think Tank. The Admins. Source: Here is the poll: https://www.facebook.com/groups/138645896321937/143500469169813 Screenshot: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=589221971096356& ========================== There is another Group that has been created for discussions that do include the possibility of "Fake Victims". You are all free to join this group if you still wish to discuss it. Truth Be Told - The Boston Marathon Bombing http://www.facebook.com/groups/125712067631411/
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May 16, 2013 at 6:39pm Like
Dany Carmady If anyone with PATIENCE can come assist in this group... it would be good.
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John Blithe I am all set! I hoping we can now focus on the CIA - FBI links to family and suspects. And the coverup by government.
May 16, 2013 at 11:16pm Like 3
Leisa Irwin Those people try my patience, sorry ;]

May 17, 2013 at 12:17am Like 2
Dany Carmady Yeah... I'll make a last ditch effort but I can't be responsible for evidence people won't look at.
May 17, 2013 at 12:23am Like 1
Ken Doc I can't do it Dany, sorry.

May 17, 2013 at 12:32am Like 1
Nicolas A. Safiannikoff whats up ? appart from a quick 5 hour sleep

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Dany Carmady I may hit you up to point me in the right direction for info to share with them Ken.
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"No offense but this false flag actor Boston Bombing explanation article above, if true, is so fing devious and whack, that I can only compare it to THE TRUMAN SHOW because its the only way your false flag theory makes sense. These actors at the false flag Boston Bombing scene get carted off to a studio and continue their false flag acting scenes at the studio with everyone playing their part at the hospital including victims, husbands, wives, relatives, funeral home directors, EMT drivers, doctors, nurses, ect, ect, ect, stop the world I want to get off now! and I assume at Sandy Hook Elementary, everyone there were actors, including the dead children, their mothers and fathers, teachers police officers funeral homes directors, ect, ect, ect,? Amazing! Come up with a better more believable story once everyone leaves these false flag scenes because I want to know where the dead children are from Sandy Hook and where these fake Boston Bombing actor mother/daughter duo are holed up in what fake hospital in what studio where?"
May 17, 2013 at 2:21am Like 2
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May 17, 2013 at 3:26am Like 3
Leisa Irwin I was talking about the people who push "actors" actually, Just WHO is doing this? It's not every day "truthers", imo.
May 17, 2013 at 3:27am Like 2
Leisa Irwin hey i think it all brought that kid down, look on his page. Chris is not a grown man. watch his video to his brother. it's on his page. I feel totally bad. my eyes make water.
May 17, 2013 at 3:38am Like 4
Leisa Irwin I just want to leave him alone. What can he do about any of it? get jeff to talk to people?
May 17, 2013 at 3:41am Like 2
Dany Carmady It's confusing every day truthers though.

Leisa Irwin I'm still formulating an outline of what i see. it is hard to do. look from up in the sky at the suggested timeline back to these boys coming here.
Leisa Irwin too many questions. like, Who really lived in Cambridge, in the "dumpy" apartment house?
Leisa Irwin Who rented said apartment? in whose name? who paid for it? I'm suggesting they did not run their own lives in America.
May 17, 2013 at 3:54am Like 1
Leisa Irwin younger was a student. Who paid for him to go to CU?
Leisa Irwin I just don't think Chris has any answers for us. he knows as much as we do. that his brother got badly hurt and could have died. he knows that. but what else could he know, just saiyin'. super saiyin'.
May 17, 2013 at 3:58am Like 2 Chat (Off)
Nicolas A. Safiannikoff thanks for that smart observation Leisa Irwin, thats why i laugh on people asking him too much questions, what the hell is he suppose to know ? but i'm sure he has an opinion to share
May 17, 2013 at 4:07am Like 1
Dany Carmady Chris is a mega sweetie with a clean heart. I hope he is ok.
May 18, 2013 at 8:05pm Like 1
Abu Hassel Dany I can understand the frustration with people blind for evidence. It's a natural response from a person that has sub come to brainwash. I've been convincing people for years about the real 9/11 story and most don't even want to look at evidence. The official 9/11 story is so ridiculous that even the laws of nature contradict their story, still most don't want to know. When they can fool 90% of the population about the biggest crime of the century, imagine how easy it is for them to do what they are doing now. The second I found out about the Boston bombings I knew something was really wrong. When it would have been a real attack with two bombs of that type, the timing of the explosions would have been different, the load of the devices would have been different and the casualty list would have been a lot longer. The man that just got shot and killed is just another drop in the bucket, of course he was executed but no one will officially question the official story. We are at war and the enemy is one that comes from within.
May 22, 2013 at 1:47pm Like 1
J Ust Gary Are any of you on the BBFF group? Or have you seen/heard where they're at with their theories now? I'm on there spectating. And let me just say, wow.
June 1, 2013 at 8:24pm Like 1
John Blithe Let's here it? Many of us are banned from that group, including myself.
Dany Carmady Banned for sticking to my guns that Jeff Bauman was a genuine victim. Ken was pre-banned.... because he's 'that awesome'. Lol.
J Ust Gary Hopefully they don't have spies here that will report me?! Lol because it is fascinating to read that groups stuff. Basically, everything is fake. It's all digital cgi. Jeff wasn't at the game. The crowd was cgi. The bombing happened on a sound stage with cgi. All the 9/11 victims were cgi. Basically, everything is cgi except what you see with your own eyes. And even then, what you see could be fake because there are actors too. They haven't got into holograms yet I don't think. But that has to be next. good times.
Lyrantha Jen L lol Those people are cooked.

Lyrantha Jen L I told you that group was a false flag. They're all stupid to the exact definition of stupid. They have no capacity for thought, much less critical thinking, and it's surprising that they even have enough intelligence to just survive day to day - eating, pooping, avoiding walking into doors. Just dumb as rocks I tell you
Dany Carmady I'm sorry but it HAS to be government controlled kooky opposition. That is WHACKED!!
Lyrantha Jen L It's really a miracle everyday that they're capable of living.
Dany Carmady I feel proud I got blocked now

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Leisa Irwin the whole thing is one big lol, somebody has to be "real" because the boston marathon is "real"! It can't be all CGI Is only the here and now "real"? I'm reading this, I'm typing this, is it live, or...?
Dany Carmady They cannot be genuine in any way shape or form. Government PsyOp all the way. IMHO
Leisa Irwin To make you think that NONE of it is doctored is surely the goal. Some of it may be. Who knows 'cept them that did it?
Lyrantha Jen L It's a CGI within a CGI within a CGI. It's multiple levels, you see.
Lyrantha Jen L C G I C E P T I O N
Amanda Sedell ^^^^ YO HAVE ME ROLLIN

Amanda Sedell "eating, pooping, avoiding walking into doors " aaaaahahahahaha
Kingsley V Evans I'm proud to say I'm banned from the 'Boston False Flag' group. I've got pictures of things like Carlos with lots of blood on his trousers, Jeff Bauman in shorts (with legs), and I don't know if I should post them here.
June 7, 2013 at 5:50am Like 3
Amanda Sedell We already have seen them. No need:) are they STILL on that? They havent found the truth of it. They literally make it up as they go. And ppl follow this. Just let that sink in......
June 7, 2013 at 9:58am Like
Kingsley V Evans On another group, when I respond to proven disinformation they will post more proven disinformation as a punishment. They don't care of it's repeating the same old lies, they just want to mess people up for being un brainwashed.
Christopher Kairnes I don't know how I ended up in any of these groups, including this one. I must have said something to warrant my involuntary enlistment. As far as I am concerned, it doesn't matter if there were actors on scene or not. I have seen some pretty incredible videos, which made me question every angle of that event. The end result is the important thing and that is all that matters. The criminal de facto federal government is going to continue to carry out it's insidious agenda regardless. Martial law and/or violent revolution/ civil war is in Our future. The bottom line is I don't trust anyone, especially the criminal de facto federal government. Believe what you will, just be prepared for the worst.
Kingsley V Evans If you don't trust anyone then I guess you must have played 'count the mind control methods' in all those videos that tell you what to see before they show you traumatising pictures huh?
June 11, 2013 at 3:20am Like 1
J Ust Gary Lulz on these last 2 comments. Peek a boo

Kyle Sebastian I got a question, what are we allowed to talk about here?
Ken Doc Anything related to Boston that does not include the disinfo claims of "fake victims/injuries/actors". As clearly stated in this document.
Anthony Jacob Woolston So we aren't allowed to talk about fake victims even though the entire event was filled with fake victims and crisis actors?
June 20, 2013 at 11:25am Like 1
Anthony Jacob Woolston Looks like I'll have to talk about fake vcitims and crisis actors in this group. I don't deal with rules, definetly when the rules tell me I cannot bring up a certain issue when I have the right to speak about it everywhere!
June 20, 2013 at 11:25am Like 1
Kingsley V Evans You lost your rights when your fellow malicious liars abused them and tried to over run every group which allowed all 'viewpoints' whilst banning genuine researchers on their own. Deal with it.
Anthony Jacob Woolston No I did not loose my rights. I am excersising my right of freedom of speech, therefor I have it.
Anthony Jacob Woolston There were fake victims and crisis actors at the boston bombing the entire thing was a false flag event. I doubt the bombing even happened at all. IT is so easy for the media to manipulate everyones pecerception.
June 20, 2013 at 11:49am Like 2
Dwight MC Anthony, you have the right to remain stupid. Everything violating our rules can and will be used to boot you. You better take the fifth.
June 20, 2013 at 11:49am Like 1
Ken Doc You see Anthony, this is OUR group, not YOUR group. If you can't abide by OUR rules..... then GTFO.
Kingsley V Evans Sorry, I didn't explain myself thoroughly enough, you're in the scum ghetto along with Westbro Baptist church. No reasonable person believes what you're saying, so don't expect to be treated as an equal by people with integrity.
June 20, 2013 at 11:52am Edited Like 1
Kingsley V Evans You don't keep your right to free speech by repeatedly telling children it's safe to get into stranger's cars and using every mind control method at your disposal whilst your doing it. The same applies to an attempt to say there was a multi billion dollar MK experiment at Boston and it was perfectly safe. Occam's razor says the real MK op is you.
June 20, 2013 at 12:11pm Like 1
Dwight MC How stupid are these 'don't infringe on my first amendment' people? You don't have the right to exercise your freedom of speech on someone else's property against the will of it's owner.
Kingsley V Evans If 'free speech' meant searching for photosensitive epilepsy sufferers and following them around with strobe lights and calling yourselves 'the real epileptics' whilst you were doing it, people wouldn't want 'free speech'. All rights are conditional. Reasonable vigilance can over ride them as well as tyrants.
Kyle Sebastian Is anyone able to inform me on things that isn't related to "fake victims/injuries/actors"? I am new here.
Amanda Sedell This whole page bro. Look around.

Tyranny Gofukyoself How can you call this a "Think Tank" and then ban talk of actors? OH wait, this is a KEN DOC Group...now I understand...
July 4, 2013 at 5:47pm Like
Amanda Sedell Its called LOGIC. See ya!

July 4, 2013 at 5:56pm Like 1
Ken Doc "Ken Doc Groups" don't promote disinfo. Beat it.
July 4, 2013 at 6:40pm Like 5
Roger Hyde I do wish all these trolls would stay under their bridges.....
July 16, 2013 at 2:44am Like 2
Robin Justice Lyrantha Jen L; AT LAST!!!! Thank you for being the voice of reason and intelligence. It is a refreshing change from what goes on so often, not only here but elsewhere.
October 5, 2013 at 8:33pm Like
Gary Tokar If you truly believe that no victims were fake how do you explain Jeff bauman? The man had both legs blown off survived well over 5 mins without medical help? Also was the black woman near him taken first when his injuries were worse? Also why was she taken on a stretcher and Bauman taken in a wheelchair? I am no doctor and I would no better than to do that. I think you are doing people a huge disservice by refusing to speak about this. It has not been debunked. If you were really after the truth you would turn over every stone no matter how implausible.
Kyle Sebastian I watched the news on this. There wasn't a single news station that had the same story of events as to what happened. I remember it starting out as a bomb and ending as a pressure cooker. Like seriously? You gotta be really fucking dumb to believe it was real.
October 15, 2013 at 11:58pm Like 1
Robin Justice The bomb's major component was a pressure cooker. It was one and the same. How obtuse must one be to understand that? <Head Smack> Obviously someone who has never ever seen an IED in his life.
October 16, 2013 at 3:29am Like
Kingsley V Evans Geoff Bauman was conscious and applying pressure to slow his bleeding. There were a lot of medics close by because it was at the finish line. I think a lot of people have survived losing both legs with less immediate medical attention. The actors theorists (I should say dogmatists actually because I've yet to meet one who can be reasoned with) said Geoff was Nick Vogt one day, then they said Nick Vogt could not exist because he would have died when he lost his legs. Why aren't they accusing each other?
Gary Tokar That is not true. I watched the footage from the explosion and he was NOT receiving any kind of medical attention for atleast 5 mins. There is no way someone could survive a double amputation that long without medical help. He would have lost a massive amount of blood. And no he wasnt applying any kind of pressure to his leg. I saw all the photos of people milling about not even paying attention to him. Like I said there was a black woman who received attention before he did as well a stretcher and Bauman gets a wheelchair. That is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. You cannot sit someone upright who is bleeding out below the waist and expect them to survive well over 5 mins without medical attention. Actors were used, sorry if you can't accept it. If the bomb was powerful enough to kill people yet couldnt break the second pane of glass on the Lenscrafters store? Finally if so many people lost limbs in the bombing why is there only one photo that I have seen with an amputated limb? Dozens of people supposedly lost limbs that day there should have been limbs all over the place and there was not.
October 16, 2013 at 9:14am Like 1
Kingsley V Evans It's possible that you don't know injuries to the torso could have triage priorities over injuries to the legs, and it's possible that you don't know where the femoral artery is which was where Geoff was pressing when he was holding a leg, but if you believe no one ever survived losing both legs in an explosion, when they do, even when they lose their legs above the knee so bleeding would be heavier, then 'sorry if you can't accept it' as you said. You're not going to waste any more of my time.
Gary Tokar Bauman was not applying pressure to his wound he was putting on prosthetics. also he would have lost consciousness from shock and bloodloss. the woman that was taken away on a stretcher before Bauman also lost a leg. She did not have a torso injury. yes you can survive a catastrophic double amputation if you receive immediate medical attention. This did not happen in Baumans case. The man rolls around on the ground for 5 mins while everyone around ignores him, than he is put into a wheelchair which would exacerbate his bleeding since his wounds are below the waist. Any first year med student can tell you that. You are wasting my time with your naivety
Dwight MC Jeff was putting on prosthetics? Gary, show us one photo of Jeff without his legs before the Marathon.
Robin Justice Gary; It is rather difficult to take you seriously when you can't even read or comprehend the rules clearly stated at the very beginning of this thread. "BRINGING UP TOPICS OF THIS NATURE WILL BE GROUNDS FOR THREAD DELETION AND/OR REMOVAL FROM THE GROUP. PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY RULE HERE." What did you do, fall down and smack your little head on the pavement? Why don't you stop wasting all of our time with this pathetic drivel? If you simply cannot help yourself from espousing this sort of nave idiotic garbage about the victims, go do it somewhere where it is wanted and tolerated. For if you can't soar with the eagles, you might as well fly with the loons.
Kyle Sebastian I'm pretty sure this is the first group I have never had my name mentioned or threatened with a ban.
Kingsley V Evans I agree, it's pathetic drivel. Looked at all the footage and never saw a tourniquet? It's time wasting at best.
Robin Justice Kyle; I did not mention your name at all, only Gary's. But if the shoe fits.
Kyle Sebastian Usually the shoe fits with me. I just wanted to state I am proud of myself for being in a group this long without being banned
Kyle Sebastian You all are a great group of people!

Gary Tokar Show me one person that had a similar injury such as Bauman and survived. Also If so many people lost limbs that day the street and sidewalk would have been covered with them and they were not. It is hard to take you seriously when you will not follow the truth wherever it goes or no matter how crazy it sounds. Calling me pathetic or a loon is an ad-hominem attack since you cant refute what I say
Gary Tokar If no actors were used,Robin Justice what do you think happened?
Robin Justice Gary: You said, "Finally if so many people lost limbs in the bombing, why is there only one photo that I have seen with an amputated limb? Dozens of people supposedly lost limbs that day there should have been limbs all over the place and there was not." You seem to be blithely unaware that any and all limbs are not severed on the spot. A limb can be so badly mangled, its vessels shredded, its blood supply irreparably compromised, that the full amputation is done surgically at the hospital, AFTER the bombing. Therefore, no "limbs all over the place." Also, it was not "dozens of people who lost limbs that day." It was 16. Get your facts straight. Un-frigging-believable.
Dwight MC Gary, your raising of questions that have been answered repeatedly a long time ago is appreciated here. You will have to do some research yourself.
Gary Tokar I understand that but where were Baumans legs? There is not one pic of legs anywhere near him or anyone elses for that matter. I have done my research and that is my conclusion. What about the man in the sunglasses near Bauman That was barely injured or the people with "shrapnel" holes in their clothing but no wounds? So if no actors were used what do you suggest happened? No one here has offered me any proof no actors were used, jus ad hominem attacks on me.
Amanda Sedell yes there is

Amanda Sedell i guess you didnt look hard enough extensively go through it ^^^
we've researched this
Amanda Sedell http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/boston-8.jpg

Robin Justice Gary; No attacks on you. Just asking that you have the decency to abide by the stated rules (rule actually) of the group. Why is that asking so much of you? Do the rules not apply to you for some strange reason? If so, that is very disrespectful to the group. But then again, if you don't respect the victims, why should you respect the clearly stated rule or any of us?
Gary Tokar Show me. All everyone has done was tell me that it has been debunked yet offer no proof of it.
Amanda Sedell there is entire files up there ^^^^

Amanda Sedell go to another group if you wish to talk this non sense disinfo STILL
Gary Tokar I am asking for the proof you guys claim to have seen and you cant show
Ken Doc Stop wasting your time on people like Gary. I just banned him. Obviously he cannot read the rules here.
Amanda Sedell
Kingsley V Evans I said I wasn't going to waste any more time on it, so thanks for making that easier.
Robin Justice Gary; If you care so much to see the proof, then take the time to go back over the threads of this group. No one here owes you their time or effort. Besides, you repeatedly claim ad nauseum that you do your own research. So, go do it already. Enough is enough.
Robin Justice Thanks, Ken! It was really trying patience to have a bartender hold forth like an expert on medical and forensic information.
Robin Justice Kyle; Just curious. Do you usually get banned from groups for some unknown reason?
Kyle Sebastian No, I wasn't serious about that.

Kyle Sebastian I'm in so many groups It's even hard sometimes to keep up with all the notifications.
Robin Justice Good to know. Thanks!

of cousrse they were fake it would take a really dumb person not to see the fake blood
it was an inside job everyone knows that but not everyone shows it
Kingsley V Evans No, it would take a really dumb person to look at a tiny minority of photos where the colour has been turned up by newspapers and say that means more than most of the unedited pictures where the blood looks real. Also, clotting blood can look bright and pale anyway.
so you believe Jahar's guilty then Kingsley V Evans ?

because i'd love to know why?!

Kingsley V Evans Don't tell me what I believe. Where did I say real injuries means Jahar did it?
well it usually does and i'm saying what you believe im asking
*not saying asking

it's weird how those who think he's guilty don't actually admit it
Robin Justice If you are intelligent enough to speak 7 languages at age 15, then you should be able to clearly read the rule above that says "No topics on fake victims/injuries/actors allowed. Bringing up topics of this matter will be grounds for thread deletion and/or removal from the group."
fine and i'm not 15...i'm trying to speak truth for my friend who's being falsely accused of something he couldn't have done! because he wouldn't even touch a fly delete me if you want but i won't let you tell me or post that my friend is guilty or post evidence suggesting he is!!!
Robin Justice Well, your own profile states your birthday as 1998 so you might want to start with the truth there for starters. I assumed you were telling the truth about that simple fact of life.
October 29, 2013 at 6:26am Edited Like
Kingsley V Evans Well I get very angry about the way people close to Jahar got taken in by BS about fake blood, from prats who iether never saw arterial blood on a road to know what it looks like, or just didn't care. It discredits Jahar's supporters.
Robin Justice You are entitled to your opinion. However, this page only has the one rule and it applies to everyone, including you. How can you expect anyone to
take you seriously when you start off acting as if the page rules don't apply to you for some inexplicable reason?
don't stalk my profile and what was that about people close to Jahar?
i respect that but don't show evidence that points towards jahar being guilty
Robin Justice I didn't "stalk" anything. It's there for anyone to view.
okay but you don't know me

Kingsley V Evans I didn't stalk you're profile. If you think they arested the wrong person, look for things which will stand up in court, and pay attention when people are discussing things, for and against.
Robin Justice You are right. I do not. However, I do know that you are breaking the rules that you seem to think are supposed to apply to anyone but you. Why is that?
I don't and idont think you understand what I am trying to say

by saying all this stuff you making it as if jahar is guilty

Robin Justice The start of this thread not only clearly states the rules but also states that there is another group where this sort of "fake victims" nonsense is up for discussion.
nonsence?
Robin Justice Yes, nonsense. The victims and their injuries are very real.
Robin Justice To say otherwise is denying reality.

reality??? if you want to talk reality then lets start...because that is not reality! reality is accusing a 20 year old and shooting at him when he's unarmed Boston armed forces should be ashamed of themselves what an embarrassment and taking the life of an innocent man taking a mothers children away from her than accusing the person they've murdered for crimes that can 't be arsed to solve! that's the truth of todays reality and to be fair it makes me sick!
Robin Justice You mentioned that Jahar is "your friend." Do you actually know him personally? Because there are many people who also know the victims and their families as well and to say that they and their injuries are fake shows a serious lack of empathy and decency on the part of anyone saying such things.
Kingsley V Evans Carlos Arredondo is awesome. I don't trust people who say he's a fake. I can understand it if they watched some dodgy youtube films whilst they were hysterical because they love Jahar, but it doesn't mean they're telling the truth, it means they saw some lies that messed them up whilst they were vulnerable.
Robin Justice If we don't know for a fact yet that he is guilty, how can you know for a fact yet that he is innocent? Just because you know someone doesn't mean that they could not be capable of doing terrible acts. If that was so, no murderers would ever have mothers, fathers, siblings, friends, etc., and they do.
of course I do since my childhood!!! how do you think I felt seeing my best friend on TV being shot everywhere!!! and i don't have no remorse for the victims because no one shows remorse towards Jahar or Tamerlan people continue be conditioned by the media and believe whatever they drain into your brains
yes actually because I know Jahars true personality

you don't and he wasn't smirking in court his face was like that because the pricks that shot at him shot through his cheek which meant he had to have surgery there
he is innocent I know that and so does Allah

Robin Justice Well, that's some moral equivalence you have going there. You think that the whole world is against Jahar although he has literally thousands of supporters so you decide to have no empathy for the dead or injured. That makes no sense whatsoever and is about as cruel and callous an attitude as a person can have. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying such a despicable thing.
Kingsley V Evans If you really know Jahar then be careful who your friends are, some of the people who want him blamed are devious and they will pretend to support him whilst they try to lead you into saying things that embaress the cause.
I know the supporters ffs! and really I think not! i think the armed forces that shot at an unarmed teenager should be ashamed then blaming him for running over his own brother! what bullshit...and it does make sense if no one even cares about my loved ones then why should I care about theirs!
Robin Justice Your "friend" is still alive. How do you think the families and friends of the dead victims felt seeing their loved ones caskets being lowered into the ground? How do you think the family and friends of the injured, especially the 16 amputees, felt watching the pain and agony of their loved ones' injuries? Your lack of sympathy for your fellow human beings is appalling.
Robin Justice There were no "armed forces." Armed forces means military. He was shot at by law enforcement officers.
Kingsley V Evans As far as I know, the best evidence is Jeff Bauman said the bomber had a 'five o colock shadow' (slightly unshaven) and the pictures of Tamerlan on the day are clean shaven. In my opinion, that's good evidence to support Jahar, but it's drowned out by morons who do more harm than good.
October 29, 2013 at 6:47am Edited Like
"friend" that's the way you address him?! your such a hypocrite...and No i don't care the way my people are killed cannot even be compared to the merely 3 people dying in a blast when thousands die in syria and palestine why does everyone seem to go blind when that happens?
Robin Justice Why should you care about them? Have you ever heard the term, "Two wrongs don't make a right?"
because they are people fellow human beings!!! like you said
and they are my people i'm not going to sit here and let them kill my people!
Robin Justice You are the one who called him your "friend" at the beginning of this conversation. I was merely referring to him in the exact same way that you did yourself. Why are you taking offense where none was meant?
Kingsley V Evans Are people who seek the truth and do it honestly your people as well?
because you put it in speech

like who? Kingsley V Evans ? what o you mean

Robin Justice No one on this thread ever said that what is happening in Syria and Palestine is moral in any way, shape, or form. I certainly did not nor would I, ever.
but i'm just stating a point that 3 people ie in Boston an the whole world seems to care so much but there's thousands of other dying and no cares as if they are blind to that or something
Robin Justice You said you are not going to "let them kill your people." Who are you referring to when you say "them?"
Kingsley V Evans I'm wondering who you mean by your people, people with virtue? people who follow a book? all of humanity? people you agree with? etc. etc.
muslim people are my people i'm a muslim

and Robin Justice the countries letting it happen

Robin Justice The fact that there were 3 doesn't make their deaths any less wrong or immoral.
no it doesn't and by the way theres a post on here showing jahar running without his packpack i wonder what that person's trying to say???
Robin Justice I have no problem with peaceful Muslims whatsoever. I have a Syrian friend, a Somali friend, Saudi and Afghani friends, amongst others.
good that is good but I don't like it whenever a bombing or something happens a muslim has to be frame for it
and luckily all the other times i escaped but this time it was someone who is very close to me which affects me still to this day not knowing whether i'll get to see him again
Robin Justice I don't care if it is 3 people in Boston, a Pakistani child caught in a drone strike, Sunnis killing Shiites, an immoral war in Iraq, Saddam gassing the Kurds, the Soviets invading Afghanistan, Malala Yousafzai being shot in the face by the Taliban, honor killings, Joseph Kony slaughtering women and children in Africa, or 19 guys flying planes into building and killing almost 3000, murder is wrong and immoral, period.
Kingsley V Evans I lived in a British Islamic area for 8 years, I had as many as three attempts at converting me per day, but never any violence or threats for not being converted. I think the media give a false impression, muslims can be very peaceful and live in harmony with everyone else.
Robin Justice What if the Muslim(s) in some cases wasn't framed for it but actually did it? Even in some cases went public and admitted it, even bragged about it? What then?
then that's that but it i don't disagree with what they do

and yes Islam is a good religion maybe if you did convert you realize how peaceful it is...and they don't use this terrorism to convert people they use it to get a message across to these ignorant people
Robin Justice Why is that? You expect us to condemn any of our people if they do something wrong but refuse to condemn yours if they do the same? Isn't true hypocrisy? One set of rules for others and a separate set for you and your people? Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it and the sooner that good and moral people realize this and practice it, the world will become a better and safer place for all of us.
Kingsley V Evans I don't like terrorism. It only takes a few terrorists to give corrupt democracies an excuse to kill a million peaceful muslims.
maybe if the government listen when they speak there is no need for bombs but these people are ignorant an don't listen when people
speak out
Robin Justice Are you actually saying above that you agree with Muslim terrorists killing innocent people? Really? How can you say such a thing?
Robin Justice Which government? The U.S. government?

I have nothing against them...they want to fight for their religion if they say stop no one listens so i believe that actions speak louder than words
and yes the US government

Robin Justice So what if a group of avowed Muslim terrorists planted a bomb near your home, school, place of work or went on a shooting spree as in the Kenyan mall attack last month and killed or seriously injured someone you love very much? Would you have "nothing against them" then?
Robin Justice Who is it exactly that you think the U.S. government should be listening to? Americans? Muslims? Muslim Americans? The governments of other countries? Who?
nope...because if it was the case of the mall I would not be shot because they told all muslims to leave and i'm a muslim soooo..yeah
Robin Justice Why exactly does any religion have to be "fought for?"
the freedom of people and at the moment it seems to be muslims only

Robin Justice The mall attack was one case only. What about the other scenario I asked you about? It's happened in England before. Bombs on the subway and on buses.
oh yeah 7/7 well in that case I still dont have anything against them becasue I already know what it's like to lose close people it happened to me 6 month ago! when I was planning to go back home with them to visit family an friends and i coulndn't because one was dead and the other could barely talk
Kingsley V Evans Islam as a protection racket for 'people of the book' That doesn't work anymore, it just gets all muslims killed indescriminately by the thousands. People should use their heads more and be more careful who they believe.
yes they should and people should be careful what they accuse muslims of because if you go a step too far people get killed
Robin Justice So, once again, you are using moral equivalence here and saying that two wrongs do make a right?
because they do look long term into things

Robin Justice You are really saying that you think that the killing that has already occurred, mush of it that has been claimed proudly by professed terrorists, is just fine and dandy with you? Did you always feel this way or just since this past April?
April, before that i even wanted to go to times square with him but now I don't even want to set foot on that filthy place
Robin Justice Yes, the U.S. looks "long term into things" as well. Just ask Bin Laden. Oh, that's right. We can't ask him anything anymore, can we?
Robin Justice Why do you still refer to it as "home" if you feel that way about the U.S.?
Robin Justice Or "that filthy place?"

home is "chechnya"planning to go back there

an on trip to times square

Robin Justice Why plan on it? Why not just go? Having too much fun enjoying Western freedoms there in England perhaps?
what?
we were planning on going back to chechnya

then to times square we can't just go because it takes transport an tickets to get there
you think we were plotting something?

and what is western freedoms in engand?

Robin Justice I thought that you were an architect in Great Britain. That is what your own profile states. You do know what is on your own profile, don't you?
yep i moved to london about a month ago to ecape all the hate
and reproters and interviews

Kingsley V Evans Britain doesn't have a constitution protecting freedom, it just has a media that likes to say things that are difficult for politicians etc.
ok but i was escaping form boston not england

Robin Justice So a minute ago, you were confused when I mentioned Western freedoms in England but now you remember that London is actually in England. Interesting.
i was asking what you meant by western freedoms/

Robin Justice Did you also work as an architect in Boston?

Robin Justice Great Britain is a Western culture. Therefore, Western freedoms, just like the U.S. Doesn't anyone take civics class anymore?
ok but i am not free here it's horrible i'm just here for small time then it depends on what happens to jahar regarding what i will do
Robin Justice If it is horrible, why did you go there? What do you mean, you're not free? Are you in a British jail or under house arrest? If not, then you are free. Lastly, why does the outcome for Jahar have so much to do with where you intend to live and work on a more permanent basis?
to escape i told you already

Robin Justice Were you born in the U.S., Great Britain, Chechnya, or some other country?
and no i'm not and regarding to outcome if they give jahar death penulty then i might find myself in the same position
thats just a clue for what i'm going to do

and i was born in chechnya

Robin Justice To escape all the hate, you said. Unless you went around telling everyone he is your friend, why would anyone even bother you at all?
yes getting hate letters with disrespectful pictures and it's only reently iv'e been open about knowing him
Robin Justice Why would Jahar's getting the death penalty mean that you would die? Clarify, please.
something I intend to do
Robin Justice How did the letter senders get your address? What kind of disrespectful pictures, if you don't mind me asking?
maybe I will be in the position of getting the death penulty or maybe somethingless
like cartoons of Jahar an his brother and even zubaidat

Robin Justice Are you saying that you intend to kill yourself if he gets the death penalty? What if he just gets life in prison? I'm intrigued.
i'm saying i will be in a position where people may be deciding whether i get the death penulty
Robin Justice You fled the country and traveled across the Atlantic Ocean because of cartoons? Unbelievable.
Robin Justice Well, don't keep us in suspense. What's your big idea?
yes it made me so angry and i used cry myself to sleep i still do the horrific images of what happen to jahar dont leave my mind
i dont wanna say becasue you will not like at all

Robin Justice You seem awfully angry for a woman.

Robin Justice It doesn't matter if I like it or not. Go ahead and be honest about how you truly feel.
I am of course angry
you don't agree with this at all i'm not going to say on public
if it gets out then I will be kept an eye on then my plan won't work
Robin Justice No horrific images about the little 8 year old boy blown to bits though, huh?
Robin Justice Private message me, then. You don't have to say it publicly at all. I can respect that.
no of course not just my best friend being covered in blood and having millions of metal plates in his hand and arm and his face with stitches all these scars will be there forever they won't go away
i'm telling you that if i tell you you will report me

Robin Justice No, I won't.

i know you will not like

i think iv'e given enough clues

in the same position that jahar is in now

i can see you message but not reply

one second i have plan

Robin Justice Just type and hit "reply." Are you having computer problems?
yes
later on inshallah will sort out proble,

Robin Justice Not sure what you mean. Can we talk in private or not?
yes but later and i am recieving messages

we can talk privatly

tryto add me
Robin Justice O.K.

John Blithe I would also like to talk to you in private. Many questions.
okay then John Blithe

only on my other account i talk in private

John Blithe OK, can you add me, please?

i try but it says follow only

i messaged you check other

John Blithe OK I will check.

alright
did you get?

because i don't have you as a friedn my message will be in other file

John Blithe OK mobile Facebook doesn't allow me to check other. Facebook is useless. I will check at lunch at home.
okay then let me know

John Blithe Will do!
Greg Burton Then what good is a discussion?

November 19, 2013 at 7:41pm Like
Dan Spak If you can't talk about that, then does this group actually believe the "official story" of the Boston Marathon Bombing? I don't get it.
December 29, 2013 at 8:22am Like
Dany Carmady Dan it was discussed exhaustively for a month. Once people were satisfied real people were injured, it got tiresome. We encouraged people still unconvinced to create other groups. It was slowing down discussions on other stuff. I am still happy to discuss it although I'm a bit rusty. If you look back to early threads there was some awesome discussion. It's only a group. Not a court decision! Lol.
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Leisa Irwin Those people try my patience, sorry ;]

Ken Doc I can't do it Dany, sorry.

Nicolas A. Safiannikoff whats up ? appart from a quick 5 hour sleep

Search for people, places and things

Marty West Why you still talking bout actors?...let it go.....

Dany Carmady It's confusing every day truthers though.

Lyrantha Jen L lol Those people are cooked.

Dany Carmady I feel proud I got blocked now

June 1, 2013 at 9:04pm Like

Amanda Sedell ^^^^ YO HAVE ME ROLLIN

J Ust Gary Lulz on these last 2 comments. Peek a boo

Amanda Sedell This whole page bro. Look around.

Amanda Sedell Its called LOGIC. See ya!

October 16, 2013 at 12:34pm Like

Kyle Sebastian You all are a great group of people!

Amanda Sedell yes there is

we've researched this

Amanda Sedell http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/boston-8.jpg

Amanda Sedell there is entire files up there ^^^^

Kyle Sebastian No, I wasn't serious about that.

Robin Justice Good to know. Thanks!

so you believe Jahar's guilty then Kingsley V Evans ?

because i'd love to know why?!

*not saying asking

okay but you don't know me

I don't and idont think you understand what I am trying to say

by saying all this stuff you making it as if jahar is guilty

Robin Justice To say otherwise is denying reality.

yes actually because I know Jahars true personality

he is innocent I know that and so does Allah

because you put it in speech

like who? Kingsley V Evans ? what o you mean

muslim people are my people i'm a muslim

and Robin Justice the countries letting it happen

then that's that but it i don't disagree with what they do

Robin Justice Which government? The U.S. government?

and yes the US government

the freedom of people and at the moment it seems to be muslims only

because they do look long term into things

Robin Justice Or "that filthy place?"

home is "chechnya"planning to go back there

an on trip to times square

we were planning on going back to chechnya

you think we were plotting something?

and what is western freedoms in engand?

and reproters and interviews

ok but i was escaping form boston not england

i was asking what you meant by western freedoms/

Robin Justice Did you also work as an architect in Boston?

to escape i told you already

thats just a clue for what i'm going to do

and i was born in chechnya

like cartoons of Jahar an his brother and even zubaidat

i dont wanna say becasue you will not like at all

Robin Justice You seem awfully angry for a woman.

i'm telling you that if i tell you you will report me

Robin Justice No, I won't.