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F irstoff,in this issuewefinally present
theresults of the"PollF orWom en"in the
punkscenethatappeared in issue#4
. I t
obviously strucka sorenerve,becausewe
received over1 0 0 extrem ely long,detailed,
and em otionalresponses (m orelike
essays)
. Ruth,Lynn,Erikka,and Anna
haveworked long and hard to assem ble
bits and pieces of theseletters into
groupings thatareaccurate
representations of m ostreplies. I tis a
fairly long and serious piece,butgiven
theincredibleoutpouring thatlittle
questionairreevoked,wehopeyouwillbe
m orethan curious to seewhatm otivated
thatbarrage.
F inally,to thosein thepunkscenewho
would liketo seeitsplitbetween East
Coastand WestCoastF uckOff!
There' s good and bad points to any scene,
and any person . Allthis nitpicking,
chauvanism ,and attem pts to createrifts
overnon-existentorsuperficialm atters is
bullshit. Thepeopleinvolved in this
constantnegativity aredoing a betterjob
of fucking overthescenethan the
governm entorcops evercould
.

Tim
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1
MRR,
Whattheguy from theband called
theCLI TBOYS wrotein thelastissue
aboutgays m adem y day,becauseI am
gay and also a punk. I ' vegotso m uch to
say aboutthis thatI can hardly thinkof
whatto say. F irstof all,youknow how
certain punkposeurs ruin things forus all
becausethey do whatthey thinkothers
willthinkis coolinstead of doing what
they really wantto do
. Well,thesam eis
truein thegay world. There' s a certain
segm entthatlikes to go around flapping
theirwrists aboutand talking likegirls.
They disgustm e
. OnenightI cam ereal
closeto sm ahing a whiskey bottleovera
certain guy' s head becausehewas like
that
. His wholelifeis fluttering aboutin
his apartm entwatering his plants and of
coursehaving sex.
And so letm etry and m akeyousee
whatit' s likeform e
. F irstof all,I would
betyouwould find ithard to believethat
a gay person could likehardcorem usic.
Well,a typicalonewouldn' t
; they couldn' t
becauseit' s notcoolin thegay scene.
And so in thegay world I ' m notliked,but
I ' m popularcuz I ' m young and good
looking,butas a person I ' m hated
. So lots
of good looking guys turn into realflits,
butI can' tfoolm yself so I know why
som eonebothers to takem ehom e-just
looks-that' s all
. Theway I attractcrowds
atgay places,and thethings peopletell
m e,m akem eawareof how good looking I
am . Butit' s notim portantto m e
. I never
do anything to lookgood
. Som etim es I
im aginebeing a Shaun Cassidy typerock
starand doing critically com m ercialsongs
and m aking m illions so thaton yours I ' d
buy trucks and instrum ents and stuff for
hardcorebands and keep itallrealsecret
so I can m akem oreand m orem oney and
startlabels and things. And then just
beforesom eChristm as,I ' d com eoutwith a
greathardcorealbum ,butyouwouldn' tbe
ableto tellthatfrom thecoverso allthese
m others and stuff would go outand buy it
fortheirignorantlittledaughters who love
m y im age. Then Xm as m orning they open it
up and geta m essagetelling them what
fools they wereforfalling forallthatshit
and thatthey can stop drooling overm y
old album covers causeI don' twantto
havesex with them anyway.
Anyway,backto being a hom osexual.
Theones of us thatdon' tturn into theflit
m inority arepretty cool
. Mostgays can,
by being different,accepta lotof
differentthings. I f only I could askyou
to im agineif youweregay forthenext1 0
m inutes,I thinkyoucould learn a lot. But
m ostof youcan' tdo that. I n fact,I bet
som eof yougeta weird feeling justseeing
theword "hom osexual"
. I ' m starting to tell
a lotof people(intelligentones) aboutm y
being gay. Hom osexuality is a problem .
And fora problem to befixed,a change
needs to bem ade
. Gays can' tchange
. I tis
nota choice. So society m ustchangeit' s
attitudes
. Letitstartwith this generation.
Nexttim eyouhearanyoneknocks gays
tellem yourbrotherwas gay and hekilled
him self,and then breaktheirnose
. Please
respond in MRR as to whatyouwould do
if yousaw m eata hardcoreshow wearing
a shirtwith m essages on this subject.
Rem em ber,no m atterwhereyouare,I live
in yourcity.
DearMRR,
Thegood news in this area is that
therehas been a realglutof good
hardcoreshows in severallocalclubs
(Trenton,Philly) . Thebad news is the
surfacing of such negativeattitudes
towards hom osexuality thatI feelsom ething
m ustbesaid aboutit. I don' tthinkit' s
im portantto nam ethebands involved or
theindividuals; I am certainly nottrying
to draw parallels between thesebands and
hom ophobia. I havewitnessed such vocal
attacks between bands and audiences,
where"hom o","faggot",and sim ilarm ore
graphic slurs havebeen exchanged,thatI
feela pointm ustbem ade
. I t' s hard to
understand thatsom epeoplein this scene,
who areostensibly working againsta
system of oppression,would resortto such
childish and truly insulting ways of
attacking each other. I ' vebeen to 4 shows
in thepastm onth where,to varying
degrees,thesekinds of attacks were
m ade,with thebands resorting to the
m icrophoneto loudly decry the"faggots"
in theaudience. I know notallpeoplewho
go to theseshows 1 iavethis attitude,but
thosethatdo seem to run loud. An
otherwisededicated person I know who' s
involved in this scenetold m ea story
abouthow heand som efriends trashed a
"faggot' s"housebecause"hewanted to
fuckourfriend". I f onewants to sm ash
som ething,I ' m sureany person with a
consciencecould find som ething betterto
railagainstthan hom osexuality. "F aggot"
is as insulting and ignoranta term as
"nigger"and relays thesam em iddleclass
fearand fascism
. I don' tunderstand this
attitudeand I ' m wondering if itis
prevalentin otherareas besides this one.
I fearso
. I haveconfronted peoplein
bands and audiences aboutitand find that
no onecan explain this attitude-I ' veheard
theexplanation thatit' s justthething to
do,I don' tknow why I do it,I ' m
brainwashed . Open youreyes to this--it' s
gotto bechanged beforewefallprey to
thesam eignorancewearefighting
against
. Replies encouraged. Joanne
Pfleiderer/70 5 CentreSt/Trenton NJ
0 861 1
DearMRR,
I thinkit' s tim esom ebody speaks up.
I can' tbelievewhat' s happening with the
idea of punk. Punkstarted outas an idea
forus to breakoutof them old we' vebeen
placed in . A way to do whatyouwant
; a
rightto beyourself and notwhatsom eone
elsewants youto be
. Notto beintim idated
into believing otherpeople' s ideals even
though youdidn' twantto.
Now

thecom pleteoppositehas
happened . I nstead of falling into the
confines of "norm al"people,punks are
trapped into being punks. Atthenext'
show yougo to,lookaround . Everybody
looks thesam e
: shorthair,com batboots,
ripped jeans,a T-shirtwith a band' s nam e
on itora crossed-outswastika,and a
blackleatherjacketwith stickers and
whateverelsethey could find around the
houseto puton it. Thenationalpunk
uniform
. They allthinkthesam e: Kill
cops, ' Reagan,

and nazis,

long live
anarchy!! So m uch forbeing an
individual
. Hey,I haveno personality and
no m ind,so I ' llhaveto m im ic som eone
else
. Mohawks arein now,I hopem y crew
cutgrows outsoon so I can getone. Such
peoplesound likem iddle-aged wom en ata
beauty parlor. "Whatshould I do with m y
hair?Should I getitcutorletitgrow
out?"Givem ea break!'
And allthis "I hate"
shitis getting
really boring
. I don' tknow how m any
thousands of anti-Reagan songs I ' ve
listened to. AtfirstI thoughtsom ething
was being done
. I was wrong . I was fooled
with therestof you. I f youreally hate
Reagan,go outand do som ething
. Don' t
sitand com plain abouthim with allyour
friends who also hatehim . I '
m notexactly
a big fan of Mr
. Reagan,butallthose
stupid anti-Reagan songs accom plished
nothing . Anti-Reagan,nuclearwar,and
racism songs areallcheap,safeprotest
songs
. Rocksongs arejustas bad because
they sing songs aboutthings alltheir
listeners agreewith
. Thereis no threat.
Alm ostevery punkagrees with thatstuff.
Why don' tyouplay thosesongs forpeople
who don' tagree. What,areyouafraid of
being ridiculed?When was thelasttim e
youheard a m iddle-aged m an say,"Boy,
M.D.C . wereright,thosedarn cops really
arebad
."?Allthosesongs do is giveus
som ething to talkaboutatshows. I ' m sure
by now peoplereading this aregoing,
"Boy,whatan asshole
. F uckyou!"That' s
theirloss. They aretheones you' llsee
nextyearwith thelatestin punkfashion.
F ashion is a waste
. Don' tberuled by
clothes.
SteveStepe
1 1 0 34 W . Doogan
Willow Springs,I I
60 4 80
Hey Tim & gang,
How ya doin?Okhere. I justwant
to offersom eof m y thoughts on theanti-
politicalthing . A recentcontigentof kids
around herehavedecided they want
politics outof punk. I treally doesn' tm ake
any senseto m e
. I personally don' tbelieve
in SOCI ALI SM as itcauses a dependency
on thesystem and I believepeopleshould
beindependentfrom thesystem (any large
system ) butI don' tseesocialistic ideas in
them ag . I also wondered abouthow
m onopolistic Max RR would beas itgets
big,peoplehaveto realizeitis notthe
gospelof punk
. ButI can' tdeny thatitis
a very good m ag,interesting and
inform ativeand shares m y concerns for
this planet
. Theseem bryonic brains that
devoteso m uch tim eto putdown political
thoughtshould com eoutof thewom band
realizehow periled theecosystem s of this
planetareand only with som econscious
raising and less apathy is therehopefor
futuregenerations. As ourlakes and
rivers and land is system atically killed off,
as m oreand m orecities areevacuated from
dioxyn dum ps and theones responsibleare
governm ents and corporations playing
gam es with ourlives,peoplethatcan' tsee
thatand don' twantto do som ething (99%
of hum ans) aresickin thehead. As I
haveneitherthedesireortheability to
fightthesysytem from within thesystem
(lawyer,politician,m ass m edia) I ' m happy
thatthis alternativem edia cam ealong for
m eto express m yself ("punk",
"underground",whatever) . I t' s been fun
butit' s also been a lotof workand m oney
on m y part. Som etim es itcan be
disheartening butI occasionally hearfrom
peoplewho appreciatetheeffortand that
m akem efeelgood.
Hey,yourcritics and theresthave
therightto theiropinions butI thinkit
m akes them lookpretty stupid. And with
thecom bination of ignorantand apathetic
peopleitm akes youwonderaboutthe
chances of any future.
Thank

god

forthinking and
concerned peoplelikeMaxim um R&R.
Keep itup,
VinceRansid
PO Box F 68
Akron,OH 4 4 30 8
Dear M RR,
I just read yourarticleon the
DI CKS. I tm adem eill! F irstthey say that
nobody
fully understands com m unism and
Marxism ; then they say that nobody cares
aboutpolitics. Well,now I know why they
callthem selves DI CKS. I fully understand
thatcom m unism works forthepeople(that
arein thegovernm ent) . They say that
they don' t liketheSoviets orChinese,but
they supporttheideas behind them . What
if I am religious?Youstupid com m ies
wouldn' tletm e. celebrate
religious
holidays . Whatif I decided to hold a
peacefulrally againstsom eof the
governm ent' s policies?You' ld lockm eup
and m aybeassissinatem e! Boy,is that
freedom . You say you' reagainstfascism ,
butyoupracticethesam etactics and
ideals. Yourkind of governm ent kisses ass
m orethan ours! I don' twanta governm ent
thatplans m y future,and tells m ewhat
I ' m bestsuited for. I f I wantto sell
pencils on thecorner,then that' s theway
I ' ll

do

it-not

through

the

planned
governm ent.
I ' m an anarchist,becauseI believeall
governm ents suppress thepeople. Anarchy
is theonly truefreedom
. No society,
except the
oneI chooseto belong to, no
rules thatI haveto follow thatI don' t
believein. I f som eonewants powerand
tries to takeover,that' s his right. But
it' s also m y rightto stop him . I f youhave
no centralized populace,how could anyone
takeoverand why would they?
I livein thesuburbs of Detroitand
know allthesocial diseases thatcan be
caughtin a centralized bullshitgovt. I ' m
sickof everyonetrying to plan m y life,
and I don' twant peopleliketheDI CKS
planning m ineand therestof theworld' s
either. Liveyourlifeforyou! My rules
form e!
M eanwhile, g ot oshows, support t he
bands, be ant isocial, andlove your
neig hbor (evenifhe isafucking
preppy-t rendy).
Sincerely, Dave "Dog bone"
Dave,
Judging
by yourexam ples of what
constitutes "freedom "-being ableto sell
pencils on a corner,yourability to
celebratereligious holidays,etc-I m ust
assum ethat, your
"anarchy" aside, you
feel
"free" herein theU .S . Based on this
prem ise, I ' d liketo m akea few com m ents.
F irst,there' s a differencebetween
"true"com m unism and thesham com m unism
espoused by theU.S .S.R. and China.
Truecom m unism is as idealistic as the
anarchism yousay you
believe
in
. Marx' s
conceptof com m unism was envisioned to
takeplacein countries that already had
heavily developed industrial bases;
countries that
already gonethrough the
capitaliststageof production growth,and
had a tradition of supposedly dem ocratic
institutions. Then,heclaim ed,itwould be
possibleto havea revolution thatwould
radicalizetheway all thosegoods (that
wereproduced fortheprofits of a few)
would bedistributed. I n otherwords,
capitalism changed theway goods were
m anufactured (m ass production),capitalism
changed theway thatpeoplerelated to
each other (econom ically and socially),and
capitalism puttheprofits
of all those
peopleinto thehands of a very few (who
would then havethereal power,the
controloverwho could run foroffice,
TweedleDum and TweedleDee)
. F orMarx,
com m unism m eanta way to redistribute
thosegoods equitably,redistributethat
power, and m akeit m oredem ocratic
and
less alienating.
Buthis idea was thatthis could only
happen in already developed econom ies . All
of theso-called com m unistrevolutions that
haveoccurred havetaken placein
underdeveloped nations,places where
feudalism was stillthedom inanteconom ic
system (wherecapilatism had notyet
succeeded in radicalizing production),
wherecapital(which is necessary to
expand production) had notyetbeen
accum ulated . So these"com m unist"
revolutions were(are) trying to both do
thecapitalaccum ulation thatcapitalists
norm ally perform ,and im plem entthesocial
reform s Marx pictured,atthesam etim e.
This m eans enforcing thewageslavery
thatcapitalism dem ands in theearlier
stages of econom ic developm ent(which
gives thesegovernm ents a bad nam e-they
justify this by needing to m odernizetheir
econom ies so thatthey can com pete
industrially and m ilitarily with capitalism ),
and then trying to reducethedevestating
socialaffects of thataccelerated rateof
development . So, ineffect , t hose
g overnment sare bot hcapit alist and
socialist , or"st at e capit alist " .A ndwhile,
t ooureyes, living t here wouldn't be very
enjoyable, t he people inmost oft hose
count rieshave neverhadit bet t er, and
cert ainlywouldn't have faredbet t erunder
capitalism

at

that

stageof ' capital

accum ulation' .
O ne more not e .While t here's no
denying t hat t he so-called"communist "
count riesare repressive t ovarying
deg rees,
most oft hempale incomparrison
t ot he so-called "freedom loving " count ries
int he ThirdWorldt hat t he U .S
.props
up.I n Poland, laborleaders
andst udent s
are somet imesjailedandharrassedfor
t heir opposit ion, but inTurkeyand
Guat emala, bot hst rong U .S.allies, t he
labormovement hasbeeneliminat ed-eit her
jailedand
t ort uredandmaimed, or else
out rig ht murdered.That 'smuchworse a
violat ionofcivil libert ies, andit 'sbeing
done
inyourname! You may not read
about
t hisin t he corporat e media, for
obviousreasons, but wit hall t he
"freedom"
you have, it surprisesme t hat
you haven't foundout about it
.I should
t hinkt hat 'ssomet hing t hat wouldreally
out rag e you, being muchmore close t o
home .I t hinkt hat t hing saren't g oing t o
chang e fort he bet t erunt il people t ake
responsibilit yfort heirg overnment , no
mat t erwhat t it le (communist , anarchist ,
democrat ic)it callsit self
.I t 'snot enoug h
t o"live mylife forme" .We int he
developed worldare inamuchbet t er
posit iont odot hat , aswe are not just
emerg ing fromfeudal slavery, povert y,
anddisease, anddohave aherit ag e of
"democracy" .I t 'snot enoug ht osay"in
t he meant ime, g ot oshows, et c"
.The real
fig ht ishere, now. "Powert ot he
people"
is anold
cliche, especiallyinyour areaof
Det roit (M C 5), but t he ideabehindit st ill
is vital.

Tim Yo
DearMRR,
Som esad truth,butI ' m writing in
responseto J. Jollies letterin issue#6.
Hem entioned som ething aboutMinneapolis' s
recent(butno longer) benefits atthe
UpperDeckforseniorcitizens,butI
thinkhem eantthe"Punks Against
Poverty"gigs. Wellthesad truth is that
nobody really knows wherethem oney went
forsure
. I havea good idea. Butthe
reason I ' m writing this letteris thatI
don' twantcreditto go to theclub,
because
itwas a scam and others should
becautious and lookinto wherethem oney
goes from benefits,so itdoesn' tgo into
som efatwealthy bastards' pockets.
F orsom egood news,1 4 or1 5
bands,including HOSKER-DI ) raised $2,0 0 0
fortheChildren' s Hospitalin Mpls.
Grum py,Mpls
Correction
: Wehad an incorrectaddress
listed lastissueforKoekrand fanzinefrom
Holland
. Thecorrectaddress is Albert
Cuypstraat1 0 0 -2 achter/1 0 72 CX
Am sterdam /Holland .
MRR,
My nam eis Rob,and I ' m thesinger,
songwriter,guitaristfortheband MONEY
DOGS . I used to play forNO THANKS,
butsplitfrom them causethey wanted to
bem ore' hardcore'
,and I don' tcarethat
m uch fortrends
. I am including to youthe
zineKa-boom ,which I worked on in the
hopeof getting som epeopleinterested in
surviving as a specis fora few m ore
years
. Wehand them outfree
. I t' s crazy
how no onereads any m ore,causethere' s
so m uch coolstuff to pickand choosefrom
in books
. I havejoined a group loosely
labeled "Hardcores AgainstTheU
.S . I n El
Salvador"which has started in NY
. A
really coolbunch,butdid youevertry to
get4 0 punks to agreeon som ething?
MONEYDOGS havebeen keeping a
low profilein thecity causewedon' twant
to play regulargigs-hatethatfuckin Rot&
Rolland allthebullshitthatgoes with it.
I really don' t' wantto m akem oney fora
bunch of m afia scum bags by entertaining a
bunch of drunken bores
. WhatI ' m talking
aboutis socialand culturalrevolution,or
fuckit,I ' m staying hom e
. I workreally
hard trying to getpeopleinterested,so
its notlikeI ' m a prim a donna
. Weare
looking forfriends thatareinterested in
changing thestatus quo
. TheNYscene,
untilvery recently,has been nothing but
theworstexcesses of Rot& RollB
.S. with
bands yelling "I hateyou
" and sm ashing
anyonethey don' tlike
. I tis changing
though.
I would liketo sharesom eof m y
ideas aboutchanging thestatus quo:
1 )
Tax revolt. 50 %of ourtaxes financethe
defense,in it'
s questto end lifeas we
know it
. Partof theother50 %goes to
financecorporatebailouts and thepollution
of ourplanet
. Tax revolthas been used
by theRightto takefrom thepoorand
giveto therich
. A carefully orchestrated
effortto educatepeopleaboutprecisely
wheretheirtax dollars aregoing
(corporatedeath state),along with som e
very fam ous peoplewilling to betax
m artyrs would bea start
. Show people
through ouractions thatweareacting
from concern,and notoutof greed
. This
plan would requirereaching practically
everyonein theU .S
.,butthepayoff
could bea dism antling of the' m achine' . I t
cannotfunction withoutfinancing.
2)
Starta strong and viableculture
outsideof "straight"
culture,thatwill
show Am erica how fucking bankruptand
death oriented ourcultureis
. Recognize
thatallof ouractions arepolitical,and by
this seethatalldealings with "straight"
culturearesupporting thatculture
. F or
so-called ' radical' bands to join theregular
rock& rollbiz is to say onething and do
another
. Thatbullshitaboutgoing through
"WarnerBros."to reach "thepeople"is a
fuckin lie,causetheonly _m essage
reaching "thepeople"from thataction is
"go along,look,thecorporations are
getting hip".
DearMRR,
I would liketo thankyouforprinting
m y letteraboutSSTRecords
. After
hearing theirreasons fornotsending their
records "Everything WentBlack"out,I
feelI owean apology to SSTand BLACK
F LAG forthegrief I havebroughtthem . I
did finally receicem y order,so I feelI
did getthrough to them
. I was confused
when I saw the"Everything. ."album in
thestores in January,yetcould notget
therecord tillMay. I did notknow that
thereleases I had seen wereim ports. I
can sym pathizewith SST,yetI don' tthink
they should haveadvertised this forsale
withoutthem eans to fulfillan order. So in
theend I seeI was nottheonly one
getting fucked over. .
.SSTm usthavea
soreass from theUnicorns horns!
Ed Sewall,Connecticut
RobUrie
60 0 1 0 th Ave#4 RS
NY,NY1 0 0 36
MRR,
So where' s therevolution?I m ean,we
allagreethatthesystem ,the"Am erican"
m entality,and thegreedy backstabbing
verm in thatitbreeds should com eto an
end
. Weallfeelthatit' s tim efora
change. Big fucking deal! So what!
How can anyoneto expectchangeto
happen if wedon' tuniteand workfor
change?So far,thehardcoresceneseem s
to besm othering itself
. The"Oi' s"hate
the"Punks",the"Punks"hatethe
"Skinheads",and everyonehates "New
Wavers". god,I hatelabels! Everyone' s so
wrapped up in bigotry and labels,and in
them eantim ethesystem continues to grow
and infest. I t' s stillthere! Thethreatof
waris ever-tightening its stranglehold ,
and when thebom bdrops,we' llallstillbe
arguing aboutourfucking stanceon m usic
and drugs
. .sheesh!
Who fucking cares if you' restraight
edgeornot?I ' m slightly warped on the
edge' s,butif I wantto takedrugs and
sm okecigarettes,then that' s m y business.
Who cares if youwearleatherand chains,
orskinny ties and wrap-around
sunglasses?Thepointis thatitdoesn' t
fucking m atter. Whatdoes m atteris that
wegetsom ething done
. Thegovernm ent
would likenothing m orethan to seeus
divided am ongstourselves.
Thehippies didn' tquitem akeit.
They turned on,tuned in,and copped
out. They fried them selves too m uch on
drugs,and finally burntout
. They did,
however,sticktogether,and protestin
largenum bers. they found theirstrength
in m ultitudes. They neverachieved their
ultim ategoal,butthey had such an im pact
thatthenation was staggered.
I livein Lansing Mich
.,and thereis
a battleexisting between theLansing kids
and Detroitkids. Detroitpeoplefeelthe
Lansing youth aretoo political,and the
Lansing peoplethinkthattheDetroitkids
arefullof shit. Tesco Vee(of MEATMEN)
has his own personalgrudgewith som e
peoplein Lansing,and takes itouton
everybody here
. With allof this
happening,itcreates chaos. Chaos gets us
nowhere. By theway,Chaos and Anarchy
aren' tthesam ething.
This crap has to stop . Eitherwe
uniteand m oveon,orthehardcorescene
willfadeaway justlikethehippies. I t' s
tim ewecalled ourselves on this shit. Now
thatwe' vehad itthrown in ourfaces,will
wewipeitoff,and dism iss itfortheshit
itreally is,orwillwecontinueto letit
keep piling up and finally consum eus all?
Action speaks louderthan words!
Morbid
DearTim ,
ThoughtI ' d letyouin on thesad
news
. I guess you' llstop putting outthe
m ag,and doing theshow now,huh?
ZI GGY
WhileI ' m writing can I justsay I
thinkyouguys aredoing a greatjobon
theshow and on them agazine. I don' t
agreewith too m any of youopinions (who
does,right?) butas long as youdon' ttry
to forcethem on people,they' reokay with
m e.
Also,I ' m a blackpunk,and I geta
lotless abuseatshows now,than I did 3
or4 years ago and if youguys arein any
way responsibleforthat,you' vegotm y
gratitude. Thereseem to bem oreof us
now too,I even saw a blackskinhead at
theMI NOR THREATshow. (Oi,blood!)
So anyway, keep up thegood work,
punkout,berad.
Ed F ortenberry
Clayton,CA
PA REN TS oC PU N K C K 5-P'hZ
DearM RR,
I am feeling pretty down on m yself . I
was juststrangled (notto death),and I
alm ostcom m itted suicide. Overwhat. I am
glad I didn' t. My m om gotm y reportcard
today and therewas one"F "in U.S.
History. Thatis m y first"F "I ' vehad in
m y life
. This was only a quartergrade,
notsem ester,so I could getup to a low
"B". Allof m y othergrades wereabove
Average,butthatwas expected of m e.
When I gotall"A"s they didn' teven get
excited
. Butwhen an "F "appears on the
reportcard,watch out
. Notonly was m y
lifethreatened,butI was told anotherof
them any tim es to getthefuckoutof the
house
. Then when I am ready to leave
they say,"Wheredo youthinkyou
' re
going?"And yourem ind them thatthey
told youto fuckoff and say,"I f youleave,
we' recalling thepoliceand you' llbein
JuvenileHall."So whatthefuck. They' re
assholes
. They say Punkhas doneitall.
They havebeaten theshitoutof each
other. My stepdad' s a Psychom aniac (he' s
theonewho tried to stranglem e) . And m y
m om is an aggressivelady. Shecould
probably kickWattle' s ass forJello Biafra.
Anyways. F orthelast4 years allthey
everdo is putdown m y opinions. She
hears m y m usic playing and she' llcom e
and listen to theword "fuck"
. So now I
purposely play "This is m y Life"by 7
Seconds and turn up thepartwhereit
says,"Getoff m y fuckin' back"
. I t' s nice
and clearand shegets them essage. This
m ay sound likea punkattitudelikeI
wanna bea truehardcorepunk(if there
is such a thing anym ore) . Pleaseprintthis
becauseParents of Punkers aren' tso
innocentand wonderfulthem selves.
Signed,
Pretty Boy
Ontario,Ca.
P-t a
DearMRR,
I ' m a punkand I ' m proud
. People
don' tunderstand us
;they thinkweareall
juveniledelinquents with hostilepasts and
no futures. That' s nottruein m ostcases.
I ' vebeen a punkforthreeyears
(Actually,youcould say I ' vebeen oneall
m y life)
. I neverreally listened to any
otherkinds of m usic beforeI listened to
punk.
.they didn' tinterestm ein theleast.
They arephony. .notoneof them com es
from theheart. Punkrockis m orethan
m usic,it' s a way of life,and I don' tm ean
itin thesensethatyouhaveto havea
m ohawkorwearan earring
. Youcan bea
punkby living yourlifeforyou,and not
forotherpeople. This is notsuppossed to
bea fucking srm on,it' s sim ply a content
individualexpressing his view abouta
subjectthatheenjoys very m uch . I f those
peoplewho labelus as troublem akers
really looked atus with open m inds then
how could they possibly hategroups such
as 7SECONDS and MI NOR THREAT?I ' m
really lucky,I guess
. My m om and dad
don' tgivem eany shitaboutm y
appearenceorbeliefs onebit
. They
understand and allow m eto befree; and
I ' m only a juniorin high school. I love
them very m uch and haveno hassles
whatsoever. I know peoplewillthinkI ' m
weird by saying that,butso fucking
what!
Thanks,
PatLongrie
23781 Pesaro
Laguna Hills,Ca 92653
P .S . Anyonewho wants info on what' s
happening in So . Cal
.,pleasewritem e.
Also,send coolflyers form y walls! I ' d
appreciateit!
To theguys atMaxim um R&R,
I t' s good to havea m ag thatdeals not
only with them usic sideof punk,butthe
social,econom ic,and politicalsides. Even
thoughtI ' m only 1 6,I ' m interested in this
partof life,probably becausethey' rethe
parts thatsuckthem ostaboutit. I agree
thatthereshould bem oreunity between
races,butit' s notalways whites on the
bad side. Atm y ex-schoolsom ebig jock
Sam oan who m adeMr. Tlooklikea 98 lb
weaking started som eshitabouthow he
was gonna killthepunx atourschool.
This gotthejocks on his sideand then
thebeaners (notMexicans) started shit.
And wedidn' teven know theguy!
Anotherthing is fuckgangs. They' re
as bad as cops orthearm y . Who cares if
1 8 of youcan kickm y ass orkillm e.
Anyhow if peoplewould drop theirm edia
induced prejudices,m aybein a generation
we' d behum ans.
Liked thearticleby Noisebush in
no .5. I wentto a bookstoreand found out
TheAm erican PoliceStateis outof print. I f
anyonewants to getrid of itorsellit
(cheap,I ' m notrich) contactm eplease.
Keep up thegood work. RichieRich (he
he)

1 278 N. Vallejo War

Upland,CA 91 786
SA0.1 EADRows
UP
MRR,
I ' d liketo apoligizeon whatI said in
m y lastletter. Peopledo haveother
opinions on thebands they likeand dislike
and I haveno rightto im poseon those
opinions. I thinkthat,personally,your
m agazineis really helping thepunkscene,
bringing info aboutbands and otherthings
from around theworld . Seeing that
your
m ag expresses opinions from peopleI hope
no m orepeopleabuseitlikeI did.
Thanks,Ted Edeson (Jarhead)
DearMRR,
I ' m a 1 3 yearold punk/skinhead
whateverthefuckyouwantto callm e.
WhatI ' m writing to youaboutis the
conceptof anarchy. Personally,I think
it' s a good idea,butitwould neverwork
becausethere' s always som eonewho' s
going to fucksom eoneelseover,and how
areyougoing to berid of violence.
There' s always som efrustration and/or
hard feelings againstsom eoneor
som ething . WhataboutMao and China?
They havesharing everything,butthe
m ilitary governm entcontrols it.
Secondly,aboutthis all-outattackon
religion-m e,I ' m agnostic,butthat' s as far
as itgoes. I f youtake,forinstance,El
Salvador,youhavem en likeOscar
Rom ero,a priest,who was assassinated by
thegovernm entforasking forbasic hum an
needs. Butthen again,on m y way to
schooltheotherday,I saw this kid about
8 years old,standing therewith his
m other. Shehad herhand on his head,
saying "Bestowem y child,with a thousand
prayers". I m ean,that' s fuckin stupid.
Onem orething . I ' vem eta few nice
cops,butthem ajority havebeen assholes.
I wantto becom ea lawyer,despitewhat
peoplesay. Adios,
Marcel(Duracell) Colbert
Madison,WI
P .S . I ' m 8th gradeclass president,and in
aband called theCHOI RBOYS
. .
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DearMarcel,
Glad to seeyoung ' uns likeyourself
outtherethinking aboutthings
. As to
yourpoints aboutanarchy-itis hard to
im agineourfucked up society suddenly
becom ing supportableof an idealistic
set-up likethat
. Changetakes a long
tim e,and anarchy won' tworkuntilm ost
peopleareready to acceptresponsibility
fortheworld . Thattim em ay com e
eventually,and untilthen,personal
anarchy (taking responsibility yourself,
foryourown actions) m ay bethem ostwe
can hopefor
. As to China,itis an
im perfectsocialexperim entthathas vastly
im proved thenear-starvation levelof m ost
peoplethatexisted beforetherevolution.
But,onceagain,itproves thepointthat
peoplecan' tchangeovernight-thatittakes
generations to instillorstress new values
of cooperation . Old habits diehard . Also,
China does nothavea m ilitary
governm ent. As to religion,I thinkm ost
punks objectto the' sheep' m entality that
religion instills-thenotion thatm atters are
outof ourhands,thatweshould accept
this m essed up world withoutquestion,
and waitfora betterafterlife. Thereare
m any ' religious' peoplewho perceivetheir
roleas oneof activist,liketheBerriganns
here,orpriests in Latin Am erica who have
joined therevolutions becauseof their
belief in justice. I tis usually thereligious
hierarchies thatareoutto preservethe
status qou. F uckthem .

Tim
O N EVI EWF0.0M C I ;I C A 6O
M RR,
I am writing to voicea very sm all
annoyanceI have. A few weeks ago I saw
MDC and theirsetwas great
. Theproblem
was they wouldn' tplay onesong without
preaching to us fora half an hourfirst. I
find this insulting . I f MDC claim s to
recognizepunkas peoplethinking for
them selves,then they should play m usic at
theirconcerts and notpropagandizeand
lecturetheaudience. That' s whathigh
schoolis for.
TheCLI TBOYS did thesam e
thing
. . .thatis untiloneyoung m an spoke
up and told them hewasn' tinterested in
being assaulted with theirfucking
opinions. This broughttheirserm on on
how "punks don' thaveto wearleather"
(really?I

thoughtitwas a law or
som ething) to an end.
I t' s pretty hypocriticalforbands to
say they supportfreethought,and then
geton stageand telltheaudiencehow to
think.AnneCooperm an/Highland Park,I L
ANo"tHF R
VtSTq EAI TI RELy
Dear M RR,
I ' m writing to youbecauseI ' m afraid
punkis dying fast. MaybeI ' m wrong,and
I hopeI am ,butm orethings pointto
death than life
. Herearem y reasons:
When I firstgotinto thepunkscene
about2 or3 years ago,I was so happy
. I
had finally found a m usic scenethatm ade
m efeelreally com fortable. I thoughtthat
this m usic and attitudewould changethe
world
. I thoughtthekids would actually
havetheirsay. And peoplewould listen to
us and m aybereally givepeacea chance.
I guess I was wrong.
Today in theU.S .,especially herein
Chicago,thewords wesang haveno
action
. They arejustwords-em pty words.
I m ean atfirst,punkfilled a really large
gap in m y life. I wasn' tinto the
drug/boozerockstarshit,and I hate
disco,so I found punk. I had finally
found a scenewhereI could havefun,but
atthesam e-tim edo som ething
constructive. I always had theideas of a
new society in m y head,butpunkput
them into focus
. I really appreciatethat,
and always will. I ' m afraid now,the
constructiveaspectof punkis gone
. F un
is them ain thing,and has taken the
involvem entout. I know in this fucked up
world it' s hard to havefun anym ore,
anywhere-butI thinkthat' s thepoint
everyoneis m issing
. Why can' twehave
fun?Why can' twedo whatwewant?
What' s stopping us?What' s thesolution?
SeeI ' m afraid no onecares to find out.
F orexam ple,M.D.C
. played herein April,
and beforethey wenton thesingertalked
abouttheproblem s and troubles weface
herein Am erica,and why weshould rock
againstReagan. During this tim e,people
weretalking and yelling likehewasn' t
even there
. Oncein a while,you' ld hear
peopleyell"Shutup and play"or"Go get
fucked". I twas likethey didn' twantto
hearanything bad-itwas likea party or
som ething
. Youm ay thinkitwas nothing,
butit' s happened before. I talways seem s
thatthebands thatsay them ostlyric-wise
areputdown them ost
. This is really sad.
Punks today justseem thoughtless
and uncaring and unfriendly. I seefewer
and fewerhandshakes and less and less
hugs . And when was thelasttim eyouhad
a good thought-provoking conversation at
a show?Orwhen was thelasttim eyou
saw som eoneputtheircutelittleslogans
into action?We' renoteven a m inorthreat
guys,wakeup!!
I ' d justliketo end by saying thatI
hopepunkproves m ewrong
. I really do
hopeitencourages peopleto careabout
oneanother,and to seebeyond thewalls
and boundaries society builds around us.
I tcould startwith ypuand m e
. Onething
to rem em ber,don' tavoid arguem ents!!
Som eonem ay getsom ething and learn from
it!! Well,tillotherwiseproven,I ' llleave
punkas is-m usic with greatpotential,but
nothing m ore. I m ay giveup on punk
m usic,buttheideas I willalways treasure
and pass on . OrganizeAnd Survive!!
John Jankowski,Chicago
DEA R M RR,
I ' m writing this letterin responseto
John Hurt' s (No. 6) com m ents to
Plenet
Boy' s letterin issue5. Who thefuckdoes
John think
heis, som edivinegod who
gets to call
som eonetrendy fordyeing
theirhairand piercing their
eyes.
Personally,
I thinkit takes a lotof guts
to lookthatwild and takealltheshit
peoplehaveto give,and notbowing to
peer pressureto look"right"
. I think
PlanetBoy is being him self,contrary to
John' s letter
. Thereis no way weare
going to haveunity
between punks if we
arealways calling peopletrendy and
poseurs. I f they have
theguts to look
wild,letthem lookwild.
I f they aredoing
itforpunkand
whatpunkstands for,let
them do it and
don' tgivethem any shit.
They get enough
shitfrom this fucked up
society.
Mike
I m pastato,Pasadena
Hey,

PR O - VW:
Justthoughtwe' d drop youa line
whilewe' reon theroad. Theothernight
theDEADKENNEDYS played a show just
outsideof Boston
and weallwent. I twas
a good show with a lotof peopleand
excellentsupportbands (PROLETARI AT,
F REEZE,JERRY' S KI DS) . Thenightwas
going along greatuntilsom eonegothurt
in thepitwhiletheDKs wereplaying.
Jello stopped theshow,and had thehouse
lights turned on untiltheguy was carried
out. Hehad a lotof help and cooperation
from thecrowd,and theguy gota big
hand as hewas carried out. Theband
started up again and itlooked like
everything was going sm ooth when it
happened again . Jello stopped theshow,
and with thehelp and cooperation of the
crowd and a coupleof cops,everything
was underway again . I really justwanted
to writeand applaud theaction taken on
thepartof theDKs,theprom oters,and
thepeopleof Waltham . I twould' vebeen all
too easy to ignoretheentiresituation and
possibly
lose
thelives of two people.
Stuckey,TOXI C REASONS
A ril- DK 's
Dear M RR,
Biafra forM ayor? N ot surprising
.H ope he
winssoall can see
what he reallyis.I t is
heavilydoubt ful t hat ifhe winshe'll
resig nandabolishg ovt .(H e ranin
1980-Ed.).
C aliforniaU berA lles.. .Fault y
Product sbroke? Wit hsome oft he most
market able commodit iesinpunkdom t oday?
Where'st he punchline? Fault yProduct sis
anindie? U rn, no:-A lt ernat ive Tent acles,
manufact uredanddist ribut edbyFault y,
man.anddist .byI .R.S ., man.anddist .
byA &M , man.anddist .byR.C .A
.Get
it ? Lookit up, orask
East BayRay.
That 'swhyhe doesn't condemnmajors
(M RR#6).
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appearance
(likeSTYX
orsom ething) at$9 in advance! (like
STYX) . So whatif theirbusiness m anager
wrotean article(MRR #3) advocating
percentagepaym ents (which resultin lower
ticketprices) Who said they m eantit?
Guess they did not. Setup by
Alexander-Ham m er Productions (who rum or
sez m ay beconnected to them afia) . Now
thathardcoreis a m arketablecom m odity,
A-H Productions havebeen setting up lots
of HC shows herewhich (1 ) rip off bands
(2) rip off fans (3) were1 9 and aboveage
wiseuntilrecently (4 ) peoplewho lefthad
to pay again to getbackin
. TheBeacon
Theater
neverhas HC shows. itain' ta
regularclub. Thanks alotJello.
Anyonewanting to write,unite,do
som ething,orcom m unicateanything,etc,
pleasewrite,OK?EdgarTejaratchi/1 64 0
AstorAve/Bronx NY 1 0 4 69
fLESPO nfSES
Edgar,
You' vebroughtup m any good points
here,so I called MikeVraney,theDK' s
business m anager,and asked him to
respond
. Heread m any facts and figures
and rationals overthephoneto m e,and
I ' m presenting them hereforyour,and
others,exam ination
. Thesearehis
statem ents,as transcribed from hastily
written notes.
F irst-theNYshow
. I thad been
planned,and fellthrough,at3 other
locations-all
of which had a $6
ticket. I t
was hard to find a 20 0 0 capacity place,
and theBeacon
was a "forced situation".
F orone,it' s a union establishm ent,which
m akes form uch highercosts
. Expenses
alonewere
$1 1 ,0 0 0 . Thatis the
justification on the$9 ticket
. Therewere
less than 220 0 paid adm issions
. Therewas
a guarantee,based on theprobabledraw,
of $4 0 0 0 to theKENNEDYS
. Outof that,
they wereto pay theopening bands
. They
paid thosebands a totalof $1 60 0 ,and
afterVraney' s cut,theDKs m ade$3325.
This m ay seem likea lot,butitbalances
againstothershows on thetourthatwere
break-even propositions
. I n thosecases,if
thegross was less than expected,the
opening bands stillgotpaid by theDKs
whatthey had been prom ised
. I n chicago,
they played 2 gigs
. Thefirstwas packed,
butthesecond had only 1 0 7paid
adm issions
. Vraney paid thebands outof
thefirstnight' s take,and paid A.O .F . an
extra $1 0 0 becauseVic'
s am p gotdestroyed
thatevening . Conversely,if thegross is
m orethan expected,as in Minneapolis,the
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. TheHUSKERS got
$30 0 m orethan prom ised.
Therewas som econtrovers raised by
a fanzinein Boston abouttheWaltham
show . He(theeditor) asserted thatthe
DKs got70 %of thedoor,and theopeners
werepaid outof the30 %leftto the
prom oter,thePROLETARI ATgetting only
$75
. Vrariey denies this . Theticketprice
was $7advance
. Thedealwas a guarantee
of $250 0 ,outof which the' DKs would pay
theopeners . I f thetotalgross was over
$570 0 (which itwasn' t),theDKs wereto
get70 %
. Theproduction costs (hallrental,
security,P.A
.,beer,perm its,ads,
printing costs,etc) totaled $3250 . Thatis
a high costtoo,butVraney wanted this to
bea good sounding show,with cool
bouncers,thatcouldn' tbeshutdown by
thecops
. They could havedonea $5 show
attheChanneland m adealotm orem oney
overall,butBiafra didn' twantto play in
thatcorporatecluband theirbouncers
havea bad rep
. I n theirm ind,betterto
charge$2 m oreand geta together,fun
show . (to yourm ention thatHam m erand
Co
. in NVC arem afia,Vraney says no
way,and thatm any peoplein thescene
workthere) . Anyway,thegross in
Waltham totaled $4 780 ,less than the
production costs and guaranteeadded
together. Vraney paid the3 openers $20 0
each,gave$4 50 of theguaranteebackto
theprom oterso hecould atleastbreak
even,paid $1 0 0 fora

m icrophone
JERRY' S KI DS broke. I nstead of theDKs
getting $250 0 ,they ended up with $20 50 .
Aftertheabovecosts,Vraney' s cut,etc,
theband itself got$1 350 . Again,that
looks likea lot,butVraney says that
when a band gets bigger,so do thecosts
(fulltim ebookkeeper,booker,roadie,
sound m an,etc
.)
. TheDKs often stay in
hotels,often travelby air,and that' s
wherea lotof them oney goes.
Onceagain,I repeat,this is Mike
Vraney' s

explanation

of

the
behind-the-scenes financialworkings,
which hefeels arenecessary to understand
beforecom ing to any conclusions aboutthe
m atter. I hopethis helps . Tim Y
I also asked Biafra to read overallthis,
and respond to allthepoints hefeltwere
notfully covered
. Thereweresom ehefelt
weretoo personally degrading to validate
by response,buttheeconom ic questions
required m oreexplanation
. His points are
as follows:
1 )F aulty Products was an independent,and
was notm anufactured ordistributed by
I .R
.S
. orAEM orRCA. I twas created by
som epeoplewho worked atI .R .S. when
Jerry Moss(theM of A&M) refused to let
theDEADKENNEDYS go outthrough
I .R .S. unless they changed theirnam e.
Oneof thereasons F aulty wentbrokeis
becausethey wreseperate,and didn' t
havetheA&Ms and RCA5 to bailthem out.
2) I n oneof theshows,eitherNew Yorkor
Boston,itcosttheDKs $250 0 to pay off
thebarnotto sellbooze,in orderto let
an all-ages show happen.
3)
I f you' regoing into a clubsituation
wherethere' s a PA already setup,a
staff,etc,theoverhead is going to be
lowerbecauseyoudon' thaveto pay fora
one-shotrentalof thehall,PA,lights,
crew,etc . On theotherhand,m ostEast
Coastclubs play dirty gam es,havekiller
bouncers,and chargeas m uch orm ore
m oney as arented hallshow.
4 ) I t' s getting harderand harderto rent
halls atall
. Prices haveskyrocketed
becauseof owners fears of trashing,
vandalism ,ala Quincy . 5)Sweetheartdeals
with police(hiring off-duty cops as
security as a m eans of stopping thepolice
from raiding and closing down theshow) is
anothercost. I n D.C. this wasn' tdone,
and theF ireMarshallcam ein and tried to
shutitdown .
MRR :
Youhavea fineproducton your
hands. I thoughtI ' d writeand debatewith
youa little.
F irst,Anarchistthinkers likeBakunin
tend to confusem ebecausethey seem so
contradictory. I n otherwords,rejectin
practicewhatyouem bracein theory.
Bakunin states (as m ostanarchistthinkers
do) thatthestateand thegovt
(presum ably capitalistrun) is them ain evil
and m ustbeelim inated. To involve
yourself in politics,then,would bea
betrayalof principle,yes?Thething to
do,according to Bakunin,is to organize
theworkers and abolish thestate,abolish
allauthority,and replaceitwith a
cooperating,autonom ous com m unity. This
notonly sounds cooland radicalbut
appeals to young,bored intellects who
foreseesom ekind of im m ediateGrecian
utopia
. Anarchy sounds likea great
concept,buthow can a society of even
two individuals existunless som eautonom y
is sacrificed?Ratherthan labelm y political
beliefs,I attem ptto express whatI believe
in . I believein a justsociety builton
ideals,butnotrun by them . I suggest
som eF rederich Engels fora realshotin
thearm .
Second,Vic Bondi' s "TheF earof
F reedom

certainly

fended

itself

to
Orwellian fatalism . . .and why not?!
Sub-Urban Am erica really doesn' tprovide
too m any positiveoutlets forallour
creativeenergies. So they rem ain dorm ant
and areeventually replaced by hatred or
even worseperpetualdifferentialism
. Our
leisuretim e,liketheworkplace,is
becom ing m echanicaland routine. Middle
Am erica spends a greatdealof its m oney
on shitthatwillneversatisfy,sim ply
becausethey havethem oney and feel
com pelled to spend it. Whatthis alladds
up to is thatwe' vecom pensated ourown
individualselves foran extra carin the
driveway and a hom ecom puter. We' ve
becom ea society which no longerwishes to
bechallenged. Whatwillweim partto our
children?Hopefully m orethan a senseof
falsehope,
Now to m usic. .
.Adm ittedly punkm usic
was them ain reason I boughtMRR . . .And
beforeI sign off I should m akea plug for
m y radio station (WVCR 88F M) . I ' m really
pleased with theprogress we' vem adethis
year. I n thepastsix m onths orso the
station has gonefrom two hours of punk
and hardcorea weekto aboutten hours.
Personalfavorites areDK' s,MDC,
anything on theCRASS label(especially
OMEGA TRI BE),BAUHAUS,JOY
DI VI SI ON,and MI NUTEMEN . . . and thelist
goes on. Thanks foryourtim eand keep
subverting Am erikkka.
SteveClark
25 SpruceSt.

Albany,

NY
1 220 5 P .S . Anyonewilling to talkand/or
debateaboutm usic,politics,education and
is nottoo coolto thinkthatwriting letters
is bullshitcan drop m ea line. Stupidity
likeapathy is annoying.
DearMRR,
Andy Wendlerof theNECROS m ust
havebeen really hard-up fora song when
hewrote"Take' Em Up",featured on their
new single. I m ean this guy m usthave
really dug to thebottom of them anurepile
to com eup with this one
. With allthe
problem s going on in theworld today,is
this thebestyoucould com eup with,
picking on disabled people?Areyoureally
thatconcerned thatdisabled peopletake
up a few parking spaces?Com eon
Wendler,youcan do betterthan that. I ' ve
been into punkforabout4 years now,and
six m onths ago I lostm y leg to cancer.
Does thatm akem eany less "punk".
Losing m y leg hasn' tstopped m efrom
putting outa com pilation tapefrom San
Diego (OurBlow Out) orgoing to shows.
Whatif som eonein yourband losta leg,I
guess you' I d justshoot' em ,right?I used
to liketheNECROS,butafterhearing that
onesong,m y "ConquestF orDeath"single
can now befound atthelocalland-fill,
along with theirfirstEP . Rem em ber,
disabled peopledon' twantany sym pathy,
justa littlerespect. We' rehum an beings
too
. . .H .C . Cunningham /1 81 2 Edgem ont
St/San Diego CA921 0 2
P .S . Any disabled punks feelfreeto write
m e; I ' d likehearing from you.
DearH .C.,
I too feelthatsong was extrem ely
insensitive
. I ' m notagainsthum orous punk
songs,butalltoo often thetargets of that
"hum or"seem s to bethepeoplein life
who' vealready gotten theshittiesthands
dealtoutby fate. That' s too easy
. On the
otherhand,I thinkyou' veover-reacted a
bitby condem ning theNECROS com pletely,
totally,and foreverbecauseof onesong.
I tis understandablethatyourpain from
thecancerexperiencehas caused quitea
reaction on yourpartto thatsong,but
hopefully thatreaction,likethecancer,
won' tspread unchecked
. Thanks for
m aking a very im portantpoint. TY
6)Thecom m entthatweshouldn' tplay the
Beacon causeit' s "nota regular
club"-thereweren' tm any regularclubs
thatwould haveus. Theones thatwould
weretoo sm allto accom odateeveryonewho
would wantto com e,and thatwouldn' tbe
fair.
7)We' vewitnessed som eincrediblebrutality
by bouncers attheChannelin Boston.
They m ay say "undernew m anagem ent",
butit' s thesam eowners who tolerated that
for3 years.
8)Onething thatneeds clearing up is the
reason wegetlargepercentages and large
guarantees orapproxim ations in advanceis
becausewepay theopening bands outof
ourm oney to besurethey getpaid atall,
and paid well. Wehad an experiencein
L .A. wherewehad a prom oterwho said he
paid RF 7$20 0 as was planned,butonly
paid them $22. Wewanted to avoid thatin
thefutureto m akesurethebands geta
decentcut. Often tim es we' llgo on justa Mm e
. RR
percentageorwithouta written contract
justas an actof faith .

Ed~~wafs
9) I n thelong run,attheend of thetour,
weended up losing m oney,which doesn' t
affectm eas m uch,as say Darren (the
drum m er) . I couldn' t
very wellarguefor
rebates during ticketprices wefound
offensivewhen Darren was looking at
having no m oney and looking forward to
getting kicked outof his apartm entwhen
hegothom e
. Technically,thereis our
airfareand hotelcosts,butit' s nota big
enough partof them oney to jackthe
ticketprices up
. Thatbasically com es out
of them oney wewould havem ade
Rbo,ie
anyway-theresultbeing,this tim earound,
wespentit.
LI KE AMACHI NE
Technology runs a dem anding two way
ie4 street
. On onehand,thedem ands of
societ yforamore amenable environment
4
creat e a need whicht echnolog yfulfills.O n
theotherhand,thecreated technology
dem ands society adjustto its particular
m ethods of solving society' s problem s. The
crux of this dichotom y is thattheaffectof
0 7
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Am erican
journal.W .A
.R . is headed by Tom Metzger
of F allbrook,Calif . Heis a form eractivist
in oneof theU.S
. Naziparties,form er
Grand Dragon (stateleader) of the
Kniqhts of theKuKlux Klan (oneof at
least5 Klans activein' Calif7,form erheaa
of theindependentCalifornia KKK
. While
head of theKlan in 1 980 ,hewas
nom inated as Dem ocratic candidatefor
representativein the4 3rd district(parto
Riverside,suburban parts of San Diego,
and allof I m perialCo
.) . Although helos
thegeneralelection,hestillpulle1
,(50
`
0 0 0 of thevote
. PeterWerner
Alter llippingpast

~~~
someMexican jibber-jabber
youcomeontoa famous
preacher rrappingup another radio ministry
program. He reminds his 'flock' that they
need not worry about the evil and degener-
ation they see all around them. After all,
they are going to be raptured up into the
clouds any minute now. In the Meantime, he
says, keep praying for Israel and all chose
'chosen ones'.
Havingenough of that opium, youstumble
ontoa discostation and flippast it fast.
On tothetalk shout station. 0h,nol Not
another On theAir Sex Therapist? When this
Jewess is done, she's followed by a Jewish
financial expert,who's followed by a Jewish
foreign affairs expert
. Jewish experts seem
to abound even morethan Jewish stand up
comedians . ..
But its music we'reafter.The1e's
Barbara
Streisand on theEasy ListeningStation.
After that comes a sweet stringy arrange-
ment of John Lennon's "imagine", reminding
youthat Y okoOneis wealthier than the
Queen of Tarts.
In disgust youturn totherock station.
Sometimes its not too
bad .

They play 'The

Mall" and a few others you like
. Finally
tired of listening thru the bad ones wait-
ing for those that are halfway decent, you
go dialing for a good ole' C and
M.
After a half hour or soyou'refeeling
dissatisfied; why does everythingsound so.
uh, kosher? Because, JoeSixpack,
it is
kosher, just likeany other part of the
music industry,
a
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i
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possiblethattherationalproducts of
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aboutpost-industrial econom ics . Weare

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who does notm erely duplicatetheworkof

m an ; indeed, already
ithas becom ea
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dilem m a,becausem an is by naturefallible,
and does notdo wellin lockstep system s .
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worth in thefuture?How m uch com passion
willoursociety feelforindividuals whose
actions run countertheflowchart?
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Rather,thegreatdangerof thenew
technology lies in its application,and the
extentto which weprojectourown values
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upon it.

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becom es thedom inantm ores of thefuture,
it' s becauseweallow them ethod of our
technology

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thinker,replaced as a m atterof policy,by
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furthered by a technology which is the
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4
rush forthatwhich runs fasterand
sm oother,weignorethebasic factthat 0 0
hum ans,in general,do notrun fastand
sm ooth.
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o
industrialagewas in living a m echanical
existence,than thegreatdangerforour
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m en areas affected by thesolutions to
theirproblem s I s they aretheproblem s
them selves,and theparticulartechnology
they em ploy to solvetheirproblem s is
bound to im press them with its particular
character. F orinstance,theindustrialage
produces notjustm oreindustrialgoods,

neas o wonerw ateffectthis new

buta m oreindustrialm an ; a m an who

technology willhaveon us. Unlikepast

wants industrialgoods,who enjoys the

technologies,thecom puterdoes notm erely

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arelooking towards technology to cureus

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Am erican Resistance),theW .A.P .A. (White
Political

Association)
yeyour avb rit esinger is
eally from t heb ackwoods,
n
coal- miner'sdaught er, or t he
son of Dust
Bowl O ak . ies. But
t heir managers,
producers,
and promot erst end t o
b et he.
kinky- haired, push Jewsfrom
t hecit y, who t ot allydet est
~ n
mtnwl labor,
Soit goes ..
Whether its
Rock, Country,Disco
Classical, Gospel, of Easy Listening,
there always seems to be plenty of
Jews around to manage,produce, direct
and of course, hand out the awards . No
wonder it all seems to sound the same
It's themoney yousay- a Jew rill
always beout for thebuck . But there
is moretoit than that. In thefield
of brainwashing, music is a powerful
detergent. In an appealingmusical
format, ideas that relax and change
theattitudes of people, havetheir
effect
. "Get IntoReggieCowboy'.
Consider thesocalledRunk Rockers.
?her 7uys comeoff withban?Mares
like"TheLivunp, Abortions" and'SIX'
(Millions of Dead Cops) . They arenot
mainstreamor,Swpular .Theyareappe1-
ling t o a segmgnt of disayst ed.Whit t
youth .ThePunks record with obscure
companies or out of someone'sgarage.
Not much moneytobemadeout of
this set,but there's still'thet-
.tluence" .Andwouldn't_ypuknow it,
whenMr,Punktunes in tohis favorite
syndicatedRadioshod,p,Lpi ck.s ups
Maxim.ar. Rock'n Rollaugarine, he's
eirgundertheinfluenceof a -ghetto
aj politicallyminded Jews' :TheJe.s
areworried about
all
the'neo- na: :'
,nd racists whohaveappear,:on the
punkscene. (That as if they arenet
Jew rasuscs)
And that's shy youcan just keepv-
ino around the dial
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I yerhanded outby theband REDTI DE
F irstof allwe' d liketo say weknow
hereis a certain faction of yououtthere
ho areheretonightto hearthebands
lay,butdo notsupportthebenefit' s
fforts to raisem oney forthelegaldefense
f theVancouverF ive. Wehavewritten
his letterto express ouram azem entatthe
ttitudes of so-called punks,new wavers,
rteests orbasically poseurs . Poseurs m ost
youhavearrived herein your
ashionabletrappings yetdisplay a
undam entalignoranceoran appalling
pathy towards thesocialand politalissues
hatareconcerned here. Political
wareness and activism aresom eof the
rucialcom ponents of the"punk"m essage.
edo notdisputeyourrights to your
eliefs and thevocalization of them ,(if
ou' retheones thattaketim eoutof
iscussing thelatesttrend orhairstyle)
uttoo m any of youare
isinform ed,m isunderstand theissues,and
rem indlessly spouting rhetoric. Thereis
arm oreatstakeherethan whetheryou
pprovetheactions of theVan . five. I n
short,itseem s m ostof youhave
succum bed to the"authorities"hopeto
transform thelegalproceedings into a
politicalpageantand m orality play aim ed at
arm ing thecitizenry and putting a
dam peron thedistinctively-autonom ous
WestCoastpoliticalm ovem ent.ltis the
hieghtof irony when the"punks"prefer
to m outh establishm entplatitudes and not
fora m om entstop,and try to discern the
realissues. Wewantto m akeitclearwe
renotplaying heretonightbecausewe
thinkpeopleshould blow up. dangerous
substations,butbecausewearealarm ed at
heauthorities attem pts to m akean
xam pleof thefiveinorderto discourage
oliticalactivism .Wearealso alarm ed by
hetrial-by-m edia by thefactthatwhile
hefivesitin Oakhalla thepoliceand the
rown prosecution havebeen em ploying
im e-tested techniques,rum ors,innuendo,
I d faced lies-to attem ptto im plantin the
I nds of thepublic thespectreof an
anarchist"terrorconspiracy com posed of
networkof cells across Canada benton a
ram pageof destruction". And weare
specially alarm ed by thedenialof
relim inary hearings fortheaccused,thein
actthey areto betried separately for
onspiracy,thereby influencing the
utcom es of subsequenttrials afterthe
irst. Wefind this frightening becausewe
s politically concerned and active
ndividuals areafraid of theram ifications
his hardlinewillhave. Willthosewho
iscuss privately in theirown hom es the
estructiveness

of

certain
licies(envirnm ental,nuclear,etc .) and
aking directaction becharged with
onspiracy and trundled off to jail?There
s no doubtanti-nuclearactivists arenow
aving som epoliticalpunch ,public
oncern is now getting harderto ignoreby
hem edia,and whattypeof action will
heseauthorities begin to practiceagainst
hoseoccupying bases and sites,against
hosewho areplanning non-violentwork
toppages(directaction),such as the
ctivists atLitton?Againstthosewho are
orking and fighting in every way they
n?
m ay a e,irec
m eans peopletaking directcontrolover
som easpectof theirlives on eitheran
individual,sm allgroup orm ass (such as
Ghandiand his followers did,and as the
blacks of Am erica achieved) levelresisting
thedictates of authority and circum venting
theestablished channels of power. I nstead
of relying on bosses,bureaucrats,cops,
and politicians; peoplerely on them selves
and theircollectivepower,realizing that
thegreat"problem solvers"arereally part
of theproblem . Directaction is different
from direct"political"(sym bolic) action,
which is m eantto influenceorwin power
through indirectm eans. Som etim es political
action is them osteffectivem eans to solve
a particularproblem ,especially if the
opposition is so strong thatdirect
confrontation would besuicidal. To take
directaction is to assertyourrightand
ability to m akeim portantdecisions
affecting yourlife. To setyourown goals
and priorities--withoutasking perm ission,
and withoutapologizing,independentof
and even in defianceof authority. Direct
action isn' tjusta tactic . I t' s thevery
m eans to createand sustain a freesociety.
Theonly way to learn to befreeis by
acting freely."(Quotes from TheOpen
Road) Sitdowns,wildcats,illegalprotests
orm arches,blockades,boycotts,strikes,
sabotage,

occupation,

Polish Solidarity
Movem ent,

squatting,

absenteeism ,
shoplifting,(rem em ber,wearenot
advocates of alldirectacitons) fareor
rentrefusal,recycling,co-ops,pirate
radio stations,CRASS,graffittiareall
form s of directaction . Blahblahblahblah . I
hopethis noterelays ourthoughts to the
few of youwho haven' ttorn this up yet.
Doubtless wewillrecieveboos and
negativefeedbackon theform and content
of oursongs,to thoseconcerned,
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F inally m y Seattlescenereport. Afterall
thebands business and various things like
thatI havefinally found tim eto letyou
know som ething abouttheSeattlescene
otherthan theF ARTZ (They areand were
a greatband)
. Ok,youm ay haveheard
butif youhaven' t,hereitis
; Blaine,
singerfortheF ARTZ who changed their
nam eto TEN MI NUTE WARNI NG has been
thrown outof TEN MI NUTE WARNI NG.
RUMOURS say thatTEN MI NUTE WARNI NG
wantto go backto hardcoreinstead of the
greathardcore-m etalthey havebeen
paying .

o nows
had their"Struggle"tapeoutand aresoon
releasing a LP with theACCUSED. They
haveboth goneto thestudio and are
awaiting pressing . Both bands plan on
going on tourthis sum m erand hopethe
LP com es outm id-sum m er. I tm ay beon
"F atal Erection"records who havealready
released the"Poison I dea"EP . Other
bands thataren' tcom ing outwith
som ething butareworth m entioning are:
BOOTBOYS area very Oiinfluenced band.
They arevery sincereand worth hearing
from . Maybein thefuturea release. I
hopeso. F I RI NG SQUAD area young
hardcoreband with Ted (Tex)-Guitar,
Alex-Bass,Eric-Vocals, and Pete-Drum s.
They have2 tracks on thecom pilation tape
"WhatSyndrom e". DERANGEDDI CTI ON-A
band from Montana who arem oving to
Seattle. They havea 1 5 song cassette
which should bereleased by July. I twill
becalled "No Art,No Cowboys,No
' Rules". I twillbe
$3
.0 0 from : Deranged
Diction 1 4 1 9 N.E . 66 Apt. 2 Seattle, WA
98115. The membersare Jeff-Bass,
Bruce-Guit ar, andSerg io-Drums.Theywill
lose t heirsing erwhent heyleave
M ont ana
but will findone inSeat t le .M R.EPP- A re
an artsy band with theHardcores, butI
don' tthinkthey areartsy becausethey
are
too originalto beclassified as "artsy".
They havea singleoutand who knows
what' s next?SI LLYKI LLERS-I ' m notsure
if theseguys aretogetherstill becauseI
haven' theard m uch from them butthey
havea 4 trackEP and 2 cuts on the"What
Syndrom e"tape. Other bands that are
around butdon' thavea chanceto play
becauseof som ereason oranotherare:
SI NNERS,they haveplayed onetim eat
Munros. YBCB,they aretheold HOBO
SKANKwho changed theirm em bers and
theirnam e. CYO,they havealso play one
gig atMunros and puton a very good
show foronly beingto gethera shorttim e.
DEPRI VED,theseguys arefrom Tacom a
and haven' tplayed yet. Theirplans areto
play . As faras fanzines,noneexistin
Seattle,butthey do com eand go. Youcan
purchasetheREJECTORS "Struggle"tape
by sending $2.0 0 to : THE REJECTORS
1 20 7S . W. 1 52nd Seattle,WA 981 4 8.
F uturearetheREJECTORS/ACCUSEDLP
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y gnary bruises,an erem ig be/
civilcasehere. A civilcasem eans m oney,
m aybem oney to open a realclub. I ' m sure
this is nottheend of thestory though.
I ' d liketo hearfrom anyoneelsewho has
filed charges againstbouncers,and thei
results
. Theonly way anything is going too
changeis if wedo itourselves.
Sincerely,K.E .C.
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DearMRR,
Thoughtyou' I d liketo hearaboutthis
recenteventin Portland scenehistory.
TheStarry Nightis a large(80 0 +) club.
They don' thavem uch localm usic(only
largedraws) and they hatepunks unless
they can m akealotof m oney off us . The
shows arealways overpriced,thebouncers
arenotoriously cruel
. This is theclubthat
pulled thepoweron I GGYPOP and didn' t
wanttheDEADKENNEDY' S becauseit
wouldn' tbea ten dollarshow . I worked
thereforthreem onths,and am oneof
m any peoplewho' veyetto bepaid.
This story began when weheard
abouttheRAMONES/D.O .A. show-ten
dollars,no localbands. This was notthe
firstshow priced outof punkrange
. We
sataround and bitched aboutitalot. I t
was tim eto DO SOMETHI NG. Theday of
theshow,whilesitting around Dirge
Manor,weturned off theT
.V .,m adesom e
signs and posters, and wrotesom e
handbills asking fora boycottof Starry
Night
. I n hindsight,I realizethatwhile
Starry Nightis a fucked club,this show
and theproblem s with itwerenotentirely
thefaultof theclub. Theprom oter,John
BauerConcert,and theRAMONES and
DOA sharecreditforperm itting this kind
of sell-outto perpetuateitself . Sm ells like
thesam eshitto m e,justnew fashion . Who
Anyway,m ostof thepeopleI talked to in
frontof theclubagreed "yeah,this is
fucked,butwhatarewegonna beableto
do"?Som ecopped to therockstarattitude,
"butthis is theRAMONES and they' re
worth it"
. Therewerealso rockjocks who
justm indlessly accepted thesituation.
"This is theway rockand rollis,and you
can' tdo anything aboutit".
Bullshit! Wecan do som ething about
it. Wedon' thaveto go to theseshows,we
can hold biggerdem onstrations nexttim e,
orhavealternativeshows thesam enight.
I was very surprised attheeffectwei
had on theclubowner
. Hecalled the
4
police,who cam eand said therewas
nothing they could do aboutus
. Wewere
I /ff
legal. Hethen spenta considerableam ount
of tim eon thesidewalk,venting his anger
4
atus and looking likea scared asshole
. A
roadiefortheRAMONES nam ed Mondo cam e
outand said he' d ' putus on theguestlist
4
if wewanted . Wedeclined . Thatwasn' tthe
point. Hesaid thathethoughtwhatwe
O
weredoing was great,and weshould keep
itup
. Allin all,itwas a pretty positive~

MONTEREY
thing . I ' d liketo hearfrom anyoneelse/

Allof us punx in Monterey arereally

who has donethis kind of thing.

4
fuckin pissed aboutlam eTim Gallaher' s
scenereportin MRR#6
. Hem akes itlook
Whilewewerestanding in frontof ,4 likeitsucks here,butitdoesn' t
. He
theclubwesaw thebouncers rudely ejecti n
doesn' tsay shitaboutthebands-fuckhim .
this guy nam ed Mr. Hipps. Hewas lim p as
4
Here' s whatit' s really like. BI OHAZARDis
3 bouncers werethrowing him down the/stillalltogether-they didn' tkickouttheir
stairs. I had m y cam era and gotsom e

bassist
. A new band,originally from
shots. Mr
. Hipps didn' teven know whatSkeeno,now playing in Monterey is
hehad done,and theclubwouldn' ttell~DI STEMPER
. PUBLI C PROBLEM was still
him
. They had his girlfriend inside,and
d shredding,buta coupleof days
ago they
wouldn' tletherleavefora while. He
brokeup,whatlooks like,forgood.
decided to callthepoliceand filean 4
Bum m er
. Thereis anothercoolband that
assaultcharge
. Thewholedealis stillin /fornow is M
.P .(Military Police)
. They' re
thered tapestage. Mr. Hipps and his looking good
. E.O .T.W
. is stillplaying
witness,m e,had to go to theD.A
.' s ,(they shred)
. Ham steram a,a localzine,is
officeand m uddlethrough layers of
4
trying to presenta show with alllocal
bureaucracy . I t' s going to takea while/bands and probably F ACTI ON That' s it,
beforethis thing is resolved,butit' s

Allthepunks in Monterey exceptTim

worth it
. Anyway,theD.A. tookphotos of ~Gallaher.
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*SKAI DS . SKAI DS (SkateKids Acquired
*I m m uneDeficiency Syndrom e) is running
ram pantnotonly in thebig cities butalso
*outin thesuburbs. SKAI DS attacks the
*skating im m unity system and gradually
*breaks itdown untilallresistanceis gone,
leaving theaffected person unableto
* resistskateboarding. Thrasherskateboard
*m ag seem s to belargely responsiblefor
*this recentoutbreak
. Notonly havethey
released a com pilation tapeof bands
* heavily infected with this disease,butalso
* held 2 "skatenights"attheend of May.
*Onewas attheTool&Diewith J
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OLVI DADOS,SKOUNDRELS,F ACTI ON,
* and MI NUS ONE . Theotherwas atOn
* Broadway t he next nig ht andfeat ured
*
BLACKATHLETES,BI G BOYS,DRUNK
I NJUNS,F ACTI ON,MI NUS ONE,and
* SKOUNDRELZ . TheF ACTI ON (San Jose)
* arereally im pressive,lotof talentthere,
.*checkouttheirnew ep. BI G BOYS are
pure,unadulterated fun,fun,fun! F unk
* itup! DRUNKI NJUNS haveto beseen to
* bebelieved! I m aginea band of Pushead
*
drawings com eto lifeand you' llbepretty
closeto thevisualim pactof this group.
>f Unfortunately,rum orhas itthatthey
*
m ysteriously disappeared on theirway
*
backto theirhom etown in North Dakota
aftertheironly liveappearanceever.
* Hm m .
New

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NATI ONAL
* DI SGRACE,PARANOI DRABBI TS from
*
Lodi,GENI CKSCHUSZ (ex-m em bers of
*
NAPALM from Germ any),SLUTS (m oving
herefrom New Orleans),F UTURE RUI NS,
* and CRYPTfrom MillValley.
Otherbits of info : CODE OF HONOR
and VERBAL ABUSE areworking on vinyl
* in thestudio,as is LOS OLVI DADOS
. MDC
*
and DI CKS stillouttouring,as is D
.R.I .
*
WHI PPI NG BOYalso hits theroad.
DOUBLE CROSS was supposed to tourwith
* them butran into som eproblem s,they
*
m ightcatch up to them laterif they get
*
things straightened outand/orputout
som evinyl
. PARI AH willhavea new album
*
outsoon on Poshboy Records,very good
* effortby them . ANGSThas a new 1 2"out
*
on Happy Squid Records.

TheCom pound,a truly alternative

shopping m all,is stillopen,contrary to

*
reports lastissue
. Things I dokbleakfor
*
its continued existencebutitis still
hangin' in therefornow.
*
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shows in a m onth was setin May,with 24
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MRR : Youallgo to Stanford?
ALL: Yeah.
ST: I graduated,gota jobnow.
MRR : Haveyougotten shitcauseyou' re
' collegekids' ,dueto any anti-intellectual
bias in thepunkscene?
E : I thinkit' s m oreof an anti-affected
intellectualstance,than againstpeoplewho
arelearning forthesakeof learning.
Also,peoplerespected us forbeing punks
from Stanford,which is thelastbastion gf
conservatism in Northern California
. I t' s
easy to bea punkfrom UCLA,butit' s not
coolhere.
ST
: Also,I thinkthere' s been a trend
lately of kids going backto school,to
learn
. I thinkit' s a good experience,
becauseyoum eeta lotof differenttypes
of peoplethere.
MRR
: Steve,you' rein the' realworld'
now. Whatdo youdo?
ST
: I teach ata privateschool
. Wehavea
few punks there
. They' repretty coolto
m e,letm edo whatI want
. .notlabelling
m eas a ' punk' .
MRR
: Areyouableto havean effecton
any kids.
ST: There' s about6 or7kids thatcom e
overto m y house. Wesitaround,drink
coffee,and talk
. Onekid,I gavea
haircutto.
E : Youplayed thetapeforthem
ST
: Yeah,and gaveoutm y m agazinein
class . There' s a kid in m y schoolwho
prints it form eactually.
MRR
: What,by theway,do youteach?
ST
: Biology.
MRR : Oh m an.
ST
: I thinkit' s them ostim portantthing.
I tm akes youunderstand theworld around
yourealwell. I try to getthekids to
thinkaboutthings,notjustm em orizethe
chem icalprocesses,etc . F orinstance,
when you' rehungry,why areyouhungry?
Or,if you' vebeen up allnight,why do
youfeellousy?I t' s fascinating . I tcan
open slotof avenues of thinking.
MRR : Changing thesubject
. .on your
album ,youhavelinernotes by Malcolm X.
Why?
E : I ' vebeen reading slotabouthim
. I was
talking to a friend aboutwho you
respect. . .thecriteria forrespect. As I see
it,if I can seem yself living m y lifethe
way thatperson did. . Malcolm X. His
fatherwas killed by theKKK,his fam ily
was broken apartby statesocialservices,
his m otherwas placed in a m ental
institution . Hewas really a brightstudent
in high school,buta whiteteachertold
him to becom ea carpenterorsom ething,
whilewhitepupils with lessergrades were
encouraged to becom elawyers,etc. So he
dropped outof school,wentto Boston,got
into thewholesub-culture,drug thing,
tried to anglo-sizehim self
. Hestraightened
his hair,gota conk
. Hegotbusted
eventually,wentto jail. Heultim ately got
into theNation Of I slam ,becam e
self-taught,self-educated,and by thetim e
hegotoutof prison,hehad stopped
sm oking,stopped drinking,stopped doing
drugs,cutoff his straightened hair
. He
then presented to WhiteAm erica,back
then,a choice. Youcan do things the
easy way,ordo things thehard way. You
had Martin LutherKing on onehand,and
on theotheryouhad Malcolm X,Stokley
Carm ichael,and theBlack
Panthers .Before,Malcolm X hadn' tbeen in
favorof desegregation,becausewhitem an
was notforit. So hewas forBlack
Nationalism . Butwhen hewentto Mecca,
hesaw peoplewho werewhite,blond hair,
b

e-s

isn' tr--a ' w

Am erican' attitude
. So,if youdon' t
consideryourself partof this Am erican
m ass of idiots,I thinkyoucould getinto
Malcolm X.
MRR
: So he' s oneperson that' s had an
influenceon you.
E
: He' s had an influenceon m e,Eugene. I
don' tknow abouttherestof theband.
D: Well,I grew up in WestGerm any,and
everyonealways said "Am erica' s so great,
so free". I do seea lotof that,butitalso
oppressive,a lotof old peoplecontrolling
it
. I t' s notjustReagan him self,butthe
wholesystem .
SAM: I ' m from Billings,Montana,where
things area littlebitslowerthan outthis
way
. When I cam eheretwo years ago,I
had neverseen punkrockbefore
. I twas
new form e
. I ' m stillin a transitional
period . I haven' tbeen contributing a
wholelotto theband in term s of lyrics,
becauseI ' m stilltrying to find things out.
E: My m otivation is notjustsum m ed up by
Malcolm X
. whatI ' m trying to do with the
m usic . . .it' s kind of a twisted Zen m ission.
I was telling Steveabout' satori' ,which
roughly translated m eans ' a kickin the
eye' . I t' s a way to attain consciousness.
Peopleoften askus "Whatdo yoursongs
m earq"Well,whata song m eans to m e
should really haveno bearing on whatit
m eans to you. That' s how religions fall
into traps. They presentsom ebody with
youshould believein A,B,and C ."
When som eone' s presented with that,
they' rerobbed of theexperienceof going
through a thoughtprocess wherethey can
arriveatA,B,and C them selves. So you
havepeople
on TV,orthePope,ora
Jonestown kind of thing,becausein
Am erica things arepushed as being easy.
Am ericans are
really soft. Youcan pop
bon-bons into yourm outh,usea
disco-twisterwhilewatching TV,and lose
1 0 pounds in aweek.
ST: A lotof tim es,in ourlyrics, wetry
on purposenotto m akeitclearwhatwe' re
talking about,even though it' s usually
based on a realexperience. Makeit
diffused. Yousee,young people' s m inds
areso activeand open to new things. I n
m y class,forinstance,I can tellthem
anything,and they' llbelieveit becauseI ' m
theteacher
. So in Am erica,everything' s
so easy,so packaged. . .packaged
salvation. .com eto Church on theseHoly
days,and you' llgo to heaven.
MRR : Don' tyouthinkit' s thatway
everywhere?
SAM : I thinkin theThird World countries,
wherethestandard of living isn' tso high,
peoplerely on theirreligion a lotm ore,
and itbecom es m oreof a way of life.
There' s a lotm oreatstake.
ST: I seeeverything thatway,notjust
religion . Politicalbeliefs.
MRR : Given thatwelivein this country,
do youseeany realistic hopeof anything
changing sincethings areso easy, people
so lazy,thatthereisn' tany m otivation?
E
: Well,basically you' vegotto com eto
therevelation thatlifeis difficult.
Nothing' s easy.
ST
: Youcan geta lotof pleasureoutof
thatdifficulty though.
E
: We' vedesired that
. Butforthatto be
a standard,I don' tknow whatwould have
to happen.
ST
: Yeah,in theshortrun it' s easy to
taketheeasy way out,although in the
long run thatjustadds up to a shallow,
vapid life.
MRR
: So relatethis allto punk.
E : I n Dante' s I nferno,youhavethepeople
in thefirstcircle,doom ed to run around
chasing a flag.
.theindecisiveones.
Anotherflag willcom ealong, and. . .So,
whatI seehappening is this rallying cry
of "Thinkforyourself". OK,thinkfor
m yself
..
ST: ThinkI wanna go. . .drinka beer.
MRR
: Wellhow is thatany differentfrom
whatyou' vebeen saying abouthow people
haveto struggleto thinkforthem selves?
ST
: That' s som eonetelling youto think
foryourself
. I t' s like,"Repeatafterm e".
E : You' vegotto thinkaboutthinking for
yourself . What' s called for,in lyrics,is a
subtlerapproach
. How m uch spacedo you
haveforcreativethoughtin a song that
says "fuckreligion"?There' s gotto be
m oreslack,notparty lines.
ST: I seethesystem of thepunknetwork
as being receptiveto ourideas
. I seesom e
kids thinking forthem selves . Creative,
insightfulthings thatdon' thappen in any
otherm ileau. Go to a rockshow
. Then go
to a punkshow
. Therearekids therewith
literature
. Som etim es it' s really crap,but
stillthey' redoing som ething
. Som etim es,
though,itis parrotactivity.
E
: I seeallthatas being m uch m ore
productive. Butbeing in a band,if I had
letit,would havem adem eless intelligent.
Yougetso involved with getting shows,
booking,buying instrum ents,who likes
you,who doesn' t
. Yougettrapped.
Whereas a m agazineis an individualeffort
in som ecases. Mine,itencouraged m eto
t,-tan --nd has
.
ST: Even thenuts and bolts of it,how
big its going to be
. I seethatas a
conceptualleap in itself.
MRR : So you' resaying theprinted m edia
is m orestim ulating?
ST
: Orartwork. Butsom etim es I ' ll heara
song that' lldo thesam ething . .a real
cleverthoughtthat' s donein a positive
way
. Also,it' s theenergy of kids,that
focused attention thatis really
refreshing. Som eof us aretrying to
channelit,in a way,down in San Jose,
by starting a B .V .O . Adrian,Ara,
Cavilan. Me,yeah,I could do it,but
theseotherguys areso energetic,
constantly generating ideas . That' s what
keeps m efrom falling into thatrut,that
easy way of doing things.
E : By theway Tim ,whatdid youthinkof
ourrecord?
MRR : I liked itactually,I was
..
ST
: Surprised?
(Laughter)
MRR : Well,I hadn' tseen youguys since
beforeyourlasttour,and when I had,I
had gotten som ewhatbored dueto the
length of thesets. E: Yeah,wesaw a
video tapeof ourselves,and wegotbored
watching thetape.
ST"So wecutouta lotof thesongs we
allhated ..
E : And shortened thesets. Thestuff
we' redoing now is even differentfrom the
record
. We' reconstantly changing . Now
we' reeven delving into 60 ' s R&B and
psychedelia. Wedo whatwewant.
MRR : Anothersubject. I read onceabout
how som eguy claim ed youguys were
sexist.
ST: Som eguy atStanford who had his
head up his ass
. Hetookonelookatus,
and painted us as sexist,racist,ageist,
and fascist. We' renoneof that.
Personally,I ' m very anti-sexist
. I n any
scenethough youseesexism .Lookat
R .E.O .,STONES-vicious,raspy sexism .
Thesexism portrayed in punkalotof tim es
is tongue-in-cheek,which is not
necessarily good . .it' s likeracistorsexist
jokes. .notas bad as realsexism ,butit
engenders thesam ething . Orthesexism
is sortof unconscious,which I considerto
bem oredam aging and dangerous. Also,I
can' tseethesecertain guys in thescene
who cutthem selves off from } of the
population . .peoplewho haveideas.
energy,who areinterested in thesam e
things,butarecutoff becausethey' re
wom en.
E : Whathappens is peopletend to
generalizefrom individualexperiences. You
havetwo shitty relationships,and you' re
ready forthis kind of thing . A lotof itis
thatlockerroom jockm entality. I t' s
m aintained outof habit.
ST: I t' s easy to hang around with justthe
guys and slip into thatm ode,talking shit.
E
: They' renotso m uch talking about
wom en as they arejustgiving a reflection
of them selves as m en.
ST: Any sortof sm allgroup thatis
exclusivebreeds thatkind of problem .

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\MRR : Youguysareveteran band ..
%S
: Webegan as theMESS,backin ' 77or
\so,doing m ostly covers,caused weall
%surfed. then I read an articleby Robert
%Hilburn in thepaperabouttheSEX
`PI STOLS show in S .F . Atthesam etim eI
\had an existentialism class-I swearto
%God-and in thatclass therewas a guy
%from theSCREAMERS and guys from a few
otherbands . Allthesethings influenced
\m e,

in

thefallof ' 77.

I tbrought
\everything togetherthatI had been living
%thelastthreeyears. I wanted to bea
\rebel,and grew m y hairlong-I thought
t
il t being ahippie wasrebellious, but t hen
%realiz edwe were wayt oolat e .Soat t hat
point I cut myhair, andst art edwrit ing
orig inal mat erial .That bandlast edforsix
\mont hs, andt henint he spring of'78we
%met some oft he orig inal punkst hat hung
out at t he C ant erburyandt he M asque,
%andwe st art edt hisbandcalledt he
\ EX TREM ES, whichwent onforacouple of
;years.That g ot t ooart yforme, andI
%quit , asM arkdidsoonaft er.Thenwe
%st art edYO U TH BRI GA DEaft erSkinhead
%M anor, endoft he summerof'80.
\MRR : Youhavea pretty unusualsound for
an

Am erican

band .

it' s

definately
%Am erican,butthere' s a British influence
`too.
\S : F irstof all,we' reCanadians. Maybe
`thathas som ething to do with it. Welike
\to thinkthat. But,peoplearealways
`trying to dividethewholething up into
\hardcore,punk,this and that. Personally,
%it' s kind of ridiculous . I t' s allpunkas far
%as

I ' m concerned.

Yeah,

thereare
\differentstyles and sounds,and if you
`wantto putyourself into a category,fine.
%Mankind

tends

to

try

to

sim plify
everything,so peoplehaveto do it.
\A
: Wejusttakethem usic welikeand
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thatinto ourm usic . I likea
\variety of m usic-everything from C & W,
classical,alotof jazz.
\S: Hewas going to play with LEVI AND
THE ROCKATS.
\MRR : Helooks likeit.
%S : Peopleliketo associateus with "Oi"
\stuff . We' reinto thechantthing . We' re
\into vocals . to m e,them ostim portantpart
%of them usic is thevocals,causethat' s the
\lead instum ent
. I tshould stand outabove
\everything . I t' s really im portantto havea
%m elody.
\A: So itsticks in yourhead.
%S : I don' tlikeallthrash bands. I like
\MI NOR THREATbecauseI thinkI an
\"sings". I n alotof thrash bands,the
\singersings whattheguitarplays,and
% there' s nothing to distinguish thetwo.
\Sam erhythm ,sam em elody. Lately,slot
%
m orehardcorebands arestarting to get
\m elody in theirsinging . it' s alrightif you
yell,butthere' s gotto bedefinition
%between vocals and guitar. I t' s hard
%enough to hearwhatpeoplearesinging.
Wewantto beableto havepeoplehearthe
%vocals.
A
: Alotof bands,when they startout,
\try to com plicatethings
. Too m uch,itjust
\sounds likenoise
. We' renow trying to
\sim plify it. MRR
: That' s yourm usical
approach .

How

aboutyourm essage
\approach .

I s thatsom ething allthree

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MRR- Now

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Markarestarting to writem orestuff . We

tend to agreeon things. I ' m m ore
outspoken
. Thebasic thing is wewantto
havefun,and ourfundam entalm essageis
to bean individual. Whatitry to put
forward in m y lyrics is to m akepeopleuse
theirm inds.

You' vegotto educate

yourself if youeverwantto change
things.

There' s

no

other

way.
Narrowm indedness,discrim ination,
hatred .
.everything wethinkof as bad in
theworld .
. is a productof ignorance. They
say thatm ostpeoplearesheep,and
ignoranceis bliss. and in a sensethat' s
true
. Butreligion is really responsiblefor
alotof that
. Western m an has lived for
thousands of years underreligion ;it' s been
thedom inantforcein his life,untilsay
starting with theRenaissance. I n thelast
few hundred years it' s gonetowards
science
. Sciencehas taken away that
' security' which religion provided
. The
religion thing was "I f youhavrfaith,
you' llgo to heaven". Youknew therewas
som ething betterafteryourlife
. Them ain
fightin lifeis you' regoing to die,so life
seem s so m eaningless
. Theonly thing you
know forsureis thatyou
' regoing to die.
So religion gavelifesom esortof m eaning.
Religion answered thequestions that
couldn' tbeanswered
. And then science
destroyed thatsecurity
. I n a sense,that' s
scary
. Butitalso gives you
freedom -freedom of choice
. And thatputs
theresponsibility on yourself,on m ankind.
Heused to putGod atthecenterof the
world,butnow he' s puthim self atthe
centerand has no oneelseto blam e.
MRR
: I tseem s thatoneof
them ain
aspects of
punkwas a rejection of the
religious,sheep m entality
. Now in L.A.,
wefind religious "born again"punks
. I sn' t
thata contradiction?
S : That' s ignorance
. I t' s a sm allhandful
of people.
MRR
: Well,whathappens in L.A. always
spreads.
S : Peoplewillonly noticethatbecauseit
is such a contradiction.
MRR : So yousaid thatsciencewas wiping
away allthis,yetreligion seem s m ore
entrenched than ever
. .MoralMajority here,
I slam ic F undam entalists there.
S
: Peoplearegoing backto religion
becausesciencehasn' tanswered
everything
. Darwin wiped away theidea of
m an being created in God' s im age. Science,
in a way,only gives youm orequestions,
notanswers. So lifeis a search for
m eaning
. I t' s a strugglebetween rational
and irrational,overcom ing youranim al
beginnings
. Thereason peoplego backto
relig
ion is becausethere' s no security,
being supplied by science.
MRR : Tiethis into punknow
. Why would
som eonewho has this education,these
ideas,bea punk?
S : Ourwholeband philosophy is that
rock' n' rollis forkids. itwas,in the
sixties,m usic by kids forkids
. Butit
becam ebig business; record com panies
tookover. allthosekids who started out
as m usicians becam em illionaires
. itbecam e
a security thing . Wecouldn' trelateany
longerto whatthey ,weresaying . when
punkcam ealong,itwas m usic forour
generation . I tgavekids thechanceto
express theirideals through m usic.
MRR : Partof yourspecific m essageis a
positiveview. How do youm aintain thatin
lightof theprevalent' no future' attitude
of punk?
A
: A lotof peoplejustcom plain,siton
theirasses,and don' tdo anything to help
MRR
: Whataresom eof thethings people
can do,oryou' redoing by exam ple?
S : Again,them ostim portantthing is to
educateyourself . I gnoranceis yourworst
enem y
. if youcan getsom ething outof
school,go ahead. I ,m yself,can
. alotof
peopledon' t. You' vegotto getpastall
thebullshit,and pulloutof itwhatyou
can . Read books,read everything you
can . Alotof peoplecan' tfucking read.
That' s totally ridiculous,

it' s the20 th
Century
. Also,a lotof peoplethinkthe
early punkbands wereallcynicaland
negative
. it' s true,in a sense,butitwas
also a parody of society,especially in
England . Punks justreflected society,to
an extrem e. Am erican punkm usic is m ore
positivebecauseit' s a differentsociety.
Youcan do slotof things here. Youcan
express yourself in a band . I n L.A.,
that' s nottoo easy,causeyouhavethe
cops trying to closedown alltheshows.
Even though itseem s likethere' s no
hope. .
.I havea kind of cynicaloptim ism .
Existentialism ,to m e,puttogetherm y
wholelife. Theseguys,in World WarI I ,
theirwholecountry was taken overby the
fascists,and itseem ed liketherewas no
hope. Them ostatrocious crim es in history
werecom m itted,and yetthey stillhad
hope,stillfought
. You' vealways gotto
fight. That' s whatlifeis allabout,to find
som em eaning,even in thefaceof the
world seem ing likeit' s aboutto blow itself
up . That' s theonly thing that' s going to
giveyourlifem eaning . You' vegotto
push. Youcan' tgiveup. That' s why
AlbertCam us said thebiggestcop outin
theworld is suicide. You' vegotto fightto
betterthings,to beresponsible. Every
person is responsibleto him self,and,as
an exam pleto allm ankind,he' s responsible
to everyone. Oneshould actaccordingly.
That' s m y basic philosophy .
B .Y .O . (B etter Youth Organization), ano
how it functions within that philosophy?
S : Going backto thebeginnings of the
L.A
. punkscene. I twas literally "1 0 0
Punks",as GENERATI ON X said . Meand
m y brotherweream ong thevery few ' kids'
involved
. Mostof theolderpunks thought
they wereallgoing to getrecording
contracts . .a few did,X,GO GO' S . .but
m osteventually dropped -out
. So when the
surfers and skaters becam epunks,wesaw
allthis incredibleenergy and power,and
thought"God,if everyonewas united".
Theolderpunks weresaying "F uckthe
new kids,they' rea bunch of poseurs".
That' s a bunch of shit
. My philosophy is,
if you' rein itnow,that' s whatm atters . 5
m inutes or5 years,it' s yourattitudenow
thatcounts. So punks weregetting caught
up in this territorialbullshit. They think
thereareso m any punks. When they get
outof thescenethey realizethat99%of
theworld doesn' tknow anything about
punkrock. I f they could keep thatin
m ind m oreoften,things would bea lot
betteroff . So wewanted to geteveryone
united . Westarted Skinhead Manor,butit
didn' treally workout. Werealized you
couldn' tgetanything donewithoutm oney.
Youhaveto havesom ekind of incom e,
capital. So itfellapart. then wegotthe
band going,and then Godzillas. I twas the
kids who ran it,kids who booked it,kids
who bounced it,kids who cam e,kids who
played . I twas greatfun. Unfortunately it
folded dueto policepressures,and the
guy didn' thaveitlegalin thefirstplace.
Butoutof thatcam ea really positive
attitude,and BYO really tookoff . Wegot
som em oney outof that
. Butwegaveup
on theidea of uniting everybody,cause
werealized if thathappened,things
wouldn' tbethesam e
. Theenergy level,
thetension . .youcan' tgeteveryoneto
thinkthesam e. Try to getpeopleto%
express theirideas,

butrem ain an ;
with otherpeople. So ratertan trying
to unitepeople,wetried to stop the
outsideexploitation
. Try to takethe
business into ourown hands. Wetook
exam ples from peoplelikeSST,what
Maxim um RnR is doing up here,F rontier,
independentlabels,peoplewho areputting
on shows them selves. Trying to do allthat
in one
. So basically,itbecam em oreof a
business

oriented

thing

than

a
philosophicalthing . I twas m oreforthe

peoplethatweareresponsible,we' renota
bands thanthekids,although it' s forthe

bunch of fuckups.
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kids in thatallthem oney wegetis
regenerated

into doing m orethings,s

keeping them oney within thescene.
MRR : Whataresom eof theseprojects?
S : Wehavea record com pany,to putout\
new bands. Weputon shows wethinkare
fair. New bands geta chanceto play on
com patablebills,thepriceis fair,the
sound system is good,and kids won' tget\
hassled . Outsideprom oters takethem oney
away,and don' tgiveanything back. We\
don' tdeny thatwedon' tm akem oney off
things,butwefeelif we(BYO) workour
b
asses off,we' reentitled to m akesom e
m oney off it.
A : I t' s definately notcharity.
S : We' retrying to setup a networkthing \
across thecountry,uniting thebusiness
aspectof thescene
. Then bands can
travelaround thecountry,can find a BYO \
orsim ilarorganization,who would put
them

up,

getthem gigs.

self-\
supporting thing . Thewholepurposeof
this is. .thekids m akethem usic,thekids \
com eto shows,so thekids should do itall
on theirown . Thepurposeof this is show \
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MRR : How long has yourstore,Toxic
Shock,been around,Bill?
B : Since' 79 . I wanted to createa place
forpeopleto getalternativem usic,other
than going alltheway to Zed in Long
Beach orsom ething. (Pom ona is 4 0 m iles
outof L.A.),Thechain stores wouldn' t
touch thestuff . I wanted to giveexposure
to thebands thatwereputting stuff out
butdidn' thavegood distribution.
MRR : Things aregetting betternow,
distribution-wise. Can youhold your
own?
B : Yes,and we' veventured into m ail
orderthelastcoupleof years. I t' s
expanded quitea lot. There' s peopleout
therein Alaska,etc.,who can' tgetthe
stuff, who arehighly interested in m usic
thatsays som ething m orethan whatthey
hearon theradio. Wewon' tsellm ajor
label stuff, likethenew X album . I f
they' regonna sel: outto a m ega-bucks
corporation,they don' tneed no help from
m e. I wantto help bands thataregoing to
stickto theirprinciples,struggling under
a lim ited budget.
MRR : Has thestorehad any im pacton the
growth of thePom ona scene?
B : I don' tknow..
Alltherest: Yes!
B : Well,recently we,ourband PEACE
CORPSE,did a streetshow in Pom ona,
authorized by thecity as partof an "arts
fair",wepulled it off, afterthey
dism antled thestagewewereto play on,
by m oving in frontof thestore
. I tworked
really well. Weeven had peopledancing to
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. MK:
Does thestorehelp m akem orenew kids
awareof punk?
B : I ' veseen a lotof m etam orphisis . Som e
kid willcom ein and say "punk' s gonna
die,and whatareyougonna do then?"
Nextyearhecom es in with a m ohawk
asking forthenew EXPLOI TEDalbum . I ' ve
also seen ' instant' punks revertbackto
theirold potparties and VAN HALEN
too . . . justto beaccepted and avoid
confrontation.
J
: Thestore' s a good way to exchange
inform ation too.
MRR : How' long has theband been in
existence?
B : Meand Julianna started out2 years
ago with a coupleof previous m em bers,
underthenam eMOSLEM BI RTH . I twas a
parody of thetrend of ' horrorrock' bands
in L.A. atthetim e.
J : I twas rightafterRoz of CHRI STI AN
DEATH ' left' ourstore.
B : Therewererip-offs and drugs around,
etc . To getthatbad experienceout of our
system ,westarted MOSLEM BI RTH. . .a
naturalreaction to thatexperience,and
' horrorbands' in general-that
philosophy. . .and theirstupidity,laziness,
idolizing death and sleep.
(laughter)
B : Wedid onegig likethat,then broke
up . . .death is part
of ' death bands' ,right?
Then werevived ita yearlaterwith
Tracey and Angie.
MRR : Why?
B
: I wanted to starta record labeland
docum entwhatwedid,and giveexposure
to otherlocalbands thatgetzero
exposure,even in L.A. zines. So wedid a
com pilation of i
tbands,"NoiseF rom
Nowhere",thatfeatures alllocalgroups
-MOSLEM BI RTH (now PEACE CORPSE),
KENTSTATE,MODERN I NDUSTRY,and
MANSON YOUTH.
MRR : So is theband no longera parody
B : Wecovera of o othersulec s.
J
: That' s why wechanged thenam e.
MRR
: Whataresom eof thethings your
trying to getacross?
B : I t' s thebasic them eof getting people
to thinkaboutthings,which has been said
a thousand tim es already. Westillliketo
injecta bitof hum orand cynicism into our
lyrics. Like' old peoplearedying on the
streets' .
T: Condom inium s.
B :
Bag ladies, Quincymediapunks..
J : Life inGuat emala.
B : Yeah,"PresidentI n Cam ouflage"is
abouttheir' leader' Rios Montt,who' s
financed by m oralm ajority typeF alwell
goons. I f peopledon' tconform to his
born-again Christianity,they m akecorpses
outof them . . . .theI ndian population.
MRR
: I n what ways do youfeelyourband
is setapartfrom others?
T: Physically,we' reso farfrom L.A.
I solated . B: Between Riverside,L.A.,and
OrangeCounty,allof whom havetheir
own scenes. J
: Plus,weplay a different
variety of m usic.
MRR : Onething thatm akes youdifferent
is thatyouhavetwo wom en in theband.
How does that affect you?
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7SE C~NI )S
Shile the s oldier s its to atale on f oreign s oil thinking of hone girls
All he wants is to get out alive to s ee his home one more time
Mos t Americ ans s it around watc hing t .v . not worrying about the f ighting
All I know is that Americ ans , they are s o lazy and I hate them
CEO
: There' s a lot
. They sneakacross the
borderand com eto San Diego to seeus.
We' reready to help anyonewho can com e
up,butrightnow it' s fucked causethe
cops arereally down on us.
MRR : Area lotof thepunks in San Diego
realyoung?
CEO : Yeah,likegram m arschoolage.
There' s onekid who used to sing forthe
SKULLBUSTERS who was about9,and he
used to bring allhis friends to theshows.
I t' s really cool,butwehad a placeand
thecops cam eand pulled thecurfew bit.
They pulled up at1 0 PM with theirriot
gear.
TRA: They always havetheirclubs out,
no m atterwhat.
MRR : Whatelsedo youdo?
CHR : Wedo band stuff allthetim e,
writing letters. Wealways writebackwhen
peoplewriteto us.
MRR : Areyoustillinvolved with B .Y.O .?
CHR : Westilltalkto them ,butwehaven' t
doneany shows up therewith them .
MRR : Would youstarta San Diego
B .Y.O .?CEO : I twouldn' twork; people
down therereally don' tgivea fuck.
Fighting boys heading of f to war one more time to def end the nation
The modern warriors are out to kill with their brainwas hed minds s itting in a
c hop p er
They hover over the killing zone getting reedy to land and s tart the attac k
In the name of god end c ountry they kill all lif e to get medals of glory
Can' t you s ee what' s wrong with them,
it' s the middle c las s lif e that they lead
They' re too bus y worrying about how c ool they were to worry ' about the f uture
Mos t p eop le in the s tates don' t really know or c are what' s hap p ening
So you bes t p rep are f or the draf t its inevitable, no more good times
You wonder about the governments and why they Aare wars c aus e they rea
p
I . really
don' t
want, realty don' t want us ' round.
Arethereany otherindepenent
labels down therebesides yours (Nutron
Records) .CHR : No.
CEO
: 50 51 areon vinyl,butthey broke
up
. Mostof thebands down theredo
som ething,and then breakup,which is
really lam e. MRR
: Arethereany otherSan
Diego bands thatarereally happening
rightnow?
CHR
: MANI F ESTDESTI NY.
MRR
: How is yourEP doing?
CHR : I t' s doing OK
. Weran into problem s
with ourdistributor-and I usethatterm
very loosely
. Welearned a lotof valuable
lessons painfully.
TED
: We' restilltrying to gettheEP out.
Therearea
lotof areas thatdidn' thave
access to it.
CHR : Welost $50 0 0
lastyear.
CEO
: Butwe' restilldoing it.
CHR
: We' vegonetoo farto quit
. Theonly
way wecould turn backnow is to kill
ourselves
. We' vecom m itted ourselves too
m uch
. Wedon' tcareif wedon' treally get
any m oney forit,becauseit' s jus
im portantthatpeopleenjoy itand are
really listening.
CEO
: Wewantto say things,and it' s fun,
butit' s notjustforfun
. We' retrying to
putsom ething across,butwe' renottrying
to preach,becausepreaching is dull
. I f
youwantthat,youm ightas wellgo to
church
. TED
: We' reidealists and realists.
Fighting boys have no c hoic e
but to f ight, f ight, f ight, f ight
Fighting boys going out on the s treets
and go wild
Fighting toys have no c hoic e
but to f ight, f ight, f ight, f ight
Fighting boys have no c hoic e
but to f ight, f ight, f ight, f ight
Fighting boys going out on the s treets
and go wild
dam s
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b rS
TheBATTALI ON OF SAI NTS havebeen
around for3 years,form erly underthe
nam eof theNUTRONS
. Theircurrent
line-up is
:George-vocals,Chris-guitar,
Ted-drum s,and Travis-bass
. They have
an 1 8-sonq album dueoutin August.
I nterview by Erikka and Brian Edge
MRR : Whatareyoursongs about?
CEO : Well,som earepolitical..
TED: They' recom m ents on society.
CEO : I ' m notpreaching oranything
. I ' m
saying to takenoticeof certain issues,
likereligion . Therearea lotof things
thatbotherm eaboutreligions and
governm ents. Butyoucan' tsay a country
can run withouta governm entbecauseit' d
betotally fucked up. There' s a way of
doing itright,butthis country is totally
fucked up.
MRR : I s ittotally fucked up in San Diego
too?
CHR : I t' s worse. I t' s a lotm orelax in
S.F . Youcan walkaround up hereand the
cops don' treally hassleyou.
CEO : I n San Diego,they' rediscrim inating
in certain theaters,notletting punks in.
TRA: Therearea lotof problem s in El
Cajon,whereI live. Therearecowboys,
and punks getbeatup forwalking down
thestreet. I used to go to school,butI
don' tanym orebecauseit' s really bad
there.
MRR : Aretherem any punks in San Diego?
CHR : Thereareabout350 -4 0 0 ,butthey
can' tkeep a clubopen steadily,m ainly
becauseof cops.
CEO : When they havea clubopen,people
who go thereusually fuckup.
TRA: Therearealways assholes who are
going to wreckit; thebathroom s are
always totalled. GEO : Yeah,let' s yankthe
urinals off thewall.
TED: Let' s breakthewindows.
TRA: Becausewerepunkrockers.
CEO : And thelocalbands com plain about
having always to open. They ask,"can we
play afteryou?"We' vebeen around fora
while,and westillopen fora lotof
bands. I tdoesn' tm akeany differenceto
us,wejustwantto play . And theseguys
justwantthestatus of being in a band
and "doing a lotof chicks,m an",and all
this othercrap which m eans shitto us
causewe' retrying to build som ething.
MRR
: Why don' tyouplay outof town m ore
often?
TED: I tcosts m oney.
CEO
: Rightnow we' rerealbrokebecause
CHR : George' s houseburned down
. We' re
going to tourwhen ourrecord com es out-
alloverthecountry and Canada.
CEO : MaybeEurope.
TED: We' reworking with Creenworld and
they' vegotconnections in England.
MRR
: Do yougetm uch im putfrom the
Mexican scene?
CEO
: Oh,weplayed in Tiajuana.
CHR
: They threw bottles atus
. They
attacked a friend of ours and m y
girlfriend,so I jum ped off thestageinto
thesecond row.
CEO : Then westarted playing som em ore
and bottles wereflying by ourheads.
MRR
: Arethereany Mexican bands?
CEO
: Therewas one. ..
CHR : LOS NEGATI VOS.
TRA
: They did SEX PI STOLS covers.
M R
: Aretherem an Mexican unks?
Weknow how screwed up itis,butwe
also liketo seeitbetter.
CEO : I wouldn' tliketo seetotalanarchy,
becausethat' s crap
. Nothing could work.
Trash would bepiling up in thestreets.
TED: Youneed to havesom ekind of
control.
MRR : Whatdo youm ean?
TED
: Peoplehaveto havesom esortof
m orals and sensibilities. They gotta have
com m on sense.
CEO : A lotof peopledon' thavecom m on
sense. That' s why they havegovernm ents,
butthegovernm entis m adeup of
individuals who arefucked up too
. A
hum an being is a hum an being,and if
they' regoing to getgreedy,they will.
MRR
: Whatkind of m usicalinfluences do
youhave?
CHR : Onething thatreally pisses us
off
is thateverybody calls us heavy m etal.
Thereason they say thatis becausewe
can play ourfucking instrum ents.
CEO
: Weplay "AceOf Spades"becausewe
likethatsong. I ts a greatsong.
CHR
: There' s som ething to thelyrics.
There' s also this energy charge.
TED: I likem usic that' s going to kickyou
in thechest.
CHR
: I adm itthere' s heavy m etal
influences
. I havea lotof jazz influences
too.
TED: So do I .
CHR
: I ' m really into Jeff Beck,and AI
DiMiola
. There' s a lotof bands outthere,
and I really likethem ,thatcan' tplay
theirinstrum ents. Therearea lotof
bands thatstarted outthatway,and they
turned outreally good becausethey built
theirown stylethatway
. MRR : Whatare
theothers' influences?
TED
: Tony William s.
CEO
: Thereareso m any. I really like
DI SCHARGE,G.B .H
.,alltheheavy
punk. .MI NOR THREAT
. Theinfluences go
way back.
CEO,TED,CHR
: NEW YORKDOLLS!
CEO : I likeJOYDI VI SI ON.
TRA: I likeOzzie; I grew up on BLACK
SABBATH.
MRR : Any parting shots?
CHR : We' vebeen trying to tellpeople
this-we' refrom San Diego,notL.A. We' re
notfrom L.A.,werefrom San Diego,and
we' reproud thatwe' refrom San Diego
becausethereain' tnobody elsefrom San
Diego.
WritetheBATTALI ON OF SAI NTS at:
Nutron Records/20 1 5 MeadeAve/San
Diego CA921 1 6
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PH O EN I X
I 'mg oing t oramble onforaverylong
t ime int hisscene report , soplease bear
wit hme .C urrent event s: FrankDiscussion
wasbackint ownandrecordedmat erial for
anewFEEDERZ
LP .I t
will include some
oldmat erial andsomwnew.BamBarn
played drumsfort he st udiosessions.The
LP will be on Placebo Records, aswill t he
re-released"Jesus" EP wit hanewcover.
The GEEZ ERS have runint osome big
problems.Grant isnowhere t obe found.
The name maychang e, but one t hing is
forsure, C huckandK evinwill keep
playing
t og et her, possiblywit hM arkon
drums.A t least t here wasnoviolence.
JO DY FO STER'S A RM Y hasanalbumout
now
.Yes, it sfinallydone, andjust in
t ime .A ft ert ouring C alif., t heywill head
east int heircool school bus, t hankst o
PlaceboRecords. C O N FLI C T, t hat Tucson
band, just recordedabunch ofsong sfor
an album. N o
release dat e yet .They are a
g reat bandnow.A newband, st ill int he
format ive st ag es, isGreg M ohawk'snew
one .Theyhave aslig ht lyBrit ish
heavy-met al sound, andhave a full set of
originaltunes. NRA (NO REAL
ALTERNATI VE) is getting tighterand
gaining fans
. I hearthey havesom e
Calif.
shows lined up . JR. ACHI EVEMENT is now
atthestagewhereI thinkitwould be
good forthem to getsom eoutof town
shows . A littleexposureand experience
would do a lotforthem . They shouldn' tbe
trapped in Phoenix . ButMI GHTY
SPHI NCTER should. They dress in wom en' s
clothes (how could they!) . They break
stuff on stageTcrageous punkviolence).
They sm earfakeblood and m ake-up on
them selves (yick!) . Then they m akea
wholebunch of noisewhilethe"frony
blob"of theband scream s nasty,nasty,
words atthecrowd. I t' s allaboutas
shockino and daring as a Gidgetre-run.
ARKANSAS
Dear Sirs ,
I gotyourm ag in them ailtheother
day .
Whata greatone! I really dug it. We
haveno sceneherein Arkansas. Som e
localbands,butallarerock. No punks
here. PLASMATI CS played hereonce
. The
REDROCKERS,WALL OF VOODOO and
other"New Wave"shitareplaying here.
Thereason I am writing is becausewe
havea hall-"Hallof I ndustry"on
F airgrounds (cap . 2,0 0 0 ) Wehave
"New
Wave"gigs there,butI talked to the
m anagem entand they said som epunk
groups m ightbeableto play som etim e.
Theirnum beris (50 1 ) 224 -221 1 -Any
punkbands thatareinterested callthem
and tellthem thatTom Caufied from
Vilonia gaveyouthenum ber. Please,we
need gigs!! I likeMDC,F EAR,BLACK
F LAG,SCREAM,MI NOR THREAT,etc.
Hopethatyouguys willprintthis and I
hopethatsom ebands willcallm eorthe
ConcertCo . My address is:
Tom Caufied
Rt1
Box 1 55
Vilonia,ARK. 721 73
(50 1 ) 796-364 2
Thanx and punkers unite
P
.S
. I ' m starting a band,butwearen' tall
togetheryet.
KANSAS CI TY-Things arereally picking
up in this old cowtown,and wenow have
an excellentscenethatis continually
growing and has a com m unalfeelto it. We
areputting on ourown all-ages shows now
too,and areattracting a lotof out-of-town
bands
. Wewantto especially thankDI E
KREUZEN who played F REE at2 parties.
Morebands need to adopta sim ilarattitude
aboutwhy they aredoing whatthey are
doing . LastweekK.C . had it rs 1 stAnnual
Sum m erSlam ,which was a benefitput
togetherby allthelocalbands
. The
proceeds areforceiling fans forthehall
werent. 7bands played :CAUSES,TI LT,
BROADCAST,

DRUNK

ALCOHOLI CS,
MORTAL MI CRONOTZ,CHOKE,and
TUNNEL DOGS
. Thelast2 aretheonly
high-powered bands-CHOKE play very
good punkrockwith dark,evil-sounding
progressions,and TUNNEL DOGS,who
started as a CLASH coverband,have
developed into an extrem ely fastthrash
band who arerefreshingly original,and do
som ething differentevery show. The
MI CRONOTZ arekinda RAMONESish and
area lotof fun. Moreand m orezines are
popping up. There' s Radioactive
Waste/8959
E 83rd Terr/Raytown Mo
64 1 38,Gizm osis/371 8 StateLine#1 /K.C.
MO 661 0 3,and I ssue. A new m ag,K.C.
Scarshould beoutsoon. That' s itfor
now
. Rem em ber,Congress sucks. Keith
Glim m er
P .S. I f any bands wantto play K.C
.,call
DaveHoward at(81 6)531 -8750
Edit
. note-thanks to MattBram lettetoo for
his help.
I Ps a' punkby num bers orm ula
for being
'repulsive punkers' . It has
all been done
better and
years ago; remember the
FEEDERZ? Lead
thing Ron doesn't have the
guts or creativity that the FEEDERZ did in
their heyday . I guess that's fluff said.
Wait, not fluff said
. Doug Clark plays
guitar in MIGHTY SPHINCTER and
VICTORY ACRES and MAYBE MENTAL
. He
has rare
moments in M. S . , but the overall
stupidity of the band holds him back . He
really shines in the other 2 projects . When
you watch Doug play, you know
it's the
first
and probably last time you
will hear
many noises .
He has a sound and style all
his own.
Tony Victorwon' tbedoing any Mad
Garden
shows untilthem iddleof the
sum m er
. DecadenceNightclubetteis
fighting financialproblem s
. Zines: besides
m ine,thereis Lexicon Devil(1 37E.
PebbleBeach/Tem peAZ 85282) and Notes
FromU nderg round(5820 W
Virg inia/ Phoenix A Z 85035)andDadI nH is
Favorit e C hair(923EM orning st arTempe
A Z 85283).
M ichael C
Phenis
527W13t hSt
Tempe A Z 85281
JAM SESSION
WITH MEMBERS
OF ALL
THE LOCAL BANDS !
BaldYo
ut hs
A t t ac
k
Scot sGuar
ds
Carlisle, E ngla
nd
About
20
youths
known
as
"skinheads" because of their hair-
cuts
attacked
membe
rs
of
a Scots
Guards band with iron bars and
clubs yesterday, after taunti
ng
theta
about their kilts
. police re-
ported
.
They said 11 bandsmen
and
one civilian were treated for cuts
and bruises at a hospital
. Pol
and
several youths were arreste
d
were being question
ed.
The trouble flared while the 44
member band was preparing to
play at a summer fair at the Carlisl
e
racetrack in northeastern En
gland.
Witnesses said the gang of
youths began joking about the
bandsmen's kilts and
clubs then
a
from
with
bars
and
nearby buildings Spectators scram-
bled for safety as
fightin
g
.
moved in to
break up the fig
The Scots Guards bandsm
en
are British army soldier
s.
A ssociat edPres
.
SoRRY,BUT
NO CN EG"S
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Hello! Anotherinstallm entfrom Chicago.
F irstoff,Chicago is pretty m uch the
centerof theMidwest,m aking itthem ost
accessable cit yfornewmusict obe
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exposed in.The scene bywayofpeople is
* really g ood;a
t ig ht compact unit ofpeople
* working t og et hert oput onshowsis
* g rowing const ant ly, whichisreallyhelpful
*
because it g ivesusachance t osee bands
* we probablywouldn't ot herwise see.
*Thebands herearefriendly,too.
*ARTI CLES OF F AI TH help thescene
t remendously bydoing most oft he work
4 fort he hall showsaswell aslet t ing
bands
stay attheirhouse.
A
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OK,now onto wnat' s happening with the
bands
. NAKEDRAYGUN arelying kinda
low,waiting forthereleaseof "Basem ent
Scream s",their1 2"EP forRuthless
Records
. Lookforit,it' s great!
ARTI CLES OF F AI TH aregoing on tour
again,theirnew 7"EP "Wait"should be
outany tim e. Dorian,ex-orparttim e
guitaristforBLOODYNAI LS (who m ay or
m ay notbreakup becauseof this) is now
with A.O .F .,m aking them a 5-piece,while
Vic takes overon vocals. ENDRESULTare
suppossed to puta 7"3-song EP outon
Affirm ation in thenearfuture. The
ANTI -BODI ES arekinda undecided on
drum m ers,they m ighthavefound a
perm anentoneby now though . Both END
RESULTand theANTI -BODI ES areon
Affirm ation' s MasterTapeVol. 2
com pilation . EVI L EYE orEVI L I (form erly
theJUVENI LE DELI NQUENCE) havean
"officialbootleg"tapefloating around
town . Theirnew bass player,Dave,is
also thebrotherof Keith,drum m erof
NEGATI VE ELEMENT.NEGATI VE ELEMENT
arethinking aboutanotherrecord-they
m ightdo itthem selves this tim e. RI GHTS
OF THE ACCUSED' s 7"8-song EP "Mean
PeopleSuck"should beoutsom etim eon
com p . cassette,havebeen playing around
pretty regularly. They havea cool7"
3-song EP outon BlackMarketREcords.
New bands-K.G.B . (Kitty Guts and
Brains) areplanning on a 1 25 song
*cassettein thefuture. Songs include
.' SquirrelSong","F un With My Buns",and
*theirclassic "I HateSauerkraut". Lookout
forthem . F ORCEDALLEGI ANCE,Oi!
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theirm usic . TheDRI LL,Chicago' s first
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done-contactSickTeen m ag) . They have

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fun backthen,and areeven m orefun

state.
now
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Markle/P .O . Box 91 MishicotWI 54 228

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latesttrend,I watch thenews and go out%
to seebands.
I ' m a greatfollowerof I .N.R .I ,a new \
hardcoreband with superbpotential
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pickup fora while,then slow down . I t' s;
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theseslow periods I detest

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and creep to thecity to m ix with allthe4

poseurs. They uniteto takepartin the\

observanceof us
. To them it' s sheer
joy. .
.to us it' s perverse. They liveoff \
ideals and values setby them edia.
They' reallxeroxed copies of a prejudicial\
stereotype.
T. Parliam ent

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June3 was proof thatN.E .W
. (North
Eastern Wisconsin) can truely supporta
\growing

subculture.

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gig,

a
\first-of-a-kind forGreen Bay,was an
%all-ages show held abovethe"1 4 Lanes"
\bowling alley. About1 0 0 peopleshowed up
with ages from 1 1 -69
. Thefirstband up
\was JOHNNYMUCUS ANDTHE TOADMEN.
I ts notoften thatyougetto see7th and
8th graders takea stand.
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.Great
`song swit h, fromwhat I couldt ell, lyrics
\about being g rounded, ourbuddyRon,
andt he ot hert hing skidst heirag e are
\concernedabout .Theirfolkslet t hemst ick
`aroundforawhile andt heylearnedalot .
\I t ' st oobadnot enoug hpeople wit nessed
\t hem.t heycouldbe subversive lit t le
b4 rodent s
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MRR,
\I ' m 1 7and livein Milwaukee. You' ve
\heard a lotaboutthescenehere,butnot
%m any personalviews. So I ' d liketo pitch a
\bitch abouta few things. I go to an
Nall-girls school,and if thatisn' thard
S enough on theof nerves,I ' m theonly
punktoo . I gethassled a lot,and fights
\aren' tuncom m on(justlastm onth I broke
`m y hand punching som echickbecauseof
\herwise-assed attitude) . I don' tgetalong
4
with the majority of the kids, but a fewof
\the teachers are O K. I try not to engage
myself with school too much-it makes me
\nauseated. M y "peers" are imperialistic
social fanatics. I nstead of worrying
whetherornot I 'm keepingupwith the
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Tomt he ownerisveryracist ,
extrem ely sexist,and a prim eexam pleof a
capitalistpig Anyway,enough slagging.
Please,anyonecom ing through Ohio,write
orcallfora show,oursceneis growing
and weneed yourhelp!
DearMaxim um Rockand Roll,
I ' m justwriting to letyouand your
readers know aboutourallages clubhere
in Colum bus,OH!So farARTI CLES OF
F AI TH haveplayed with thefuture
bringing theDI CKS,NECROS,TAR
BABI ES,BI G BOYS,etc
. . . Wewant
anyonethatis planning on being in Ohio
to callorwriteand schedulea show with
us!
I would also liketo letpeopleknow
abouta localbarherecalled Mr. Browns!
DON' TPLAYTHERE!
Thanks,
ScottCrucifucks
Scott& Mary
PO Box 81 51 -A
Colum bus,OH 4 320 1
orcall(61 4 ) 888-7994 and leavea m essage!
I .N.R .I
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Although the E. Lansing scene has been
somewhat dead since last October (when
Tesco Vee of the MEATMEN left for D. C . ),
the CRUCIFUCK S have played around town
a few times . They have recently been
I
touringaround with the R ock A gainst
R eaganTour
. CR UCI FUCKS also have put
out a 9-songcassette which includes all
theirclassics like "Hinckley Had A
Vision", "D emocracy Spawns Bad Taste",
"Legal Genocide", etc
. I t only costs $ 3and
comes with lyric sheets, flyers, and a
bumpersticker, and is well worth the
money . A fewgigs have beenhappening
THE STATE
CRUCI F UCKS

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around thestatethough . SS DECONTROL
played Ann Arbor,with opening bands
GROUNDZERO,THE STATE,NEGATI VE
APPROACH,and theNECROS
. Therewas
good attendanceand no fights. CI RCLE
JERKS played Kalam azoo . Two noisebands
(yawn) opened followed by VI OLENT
APATHYwith theirnew line-up
. They
sound m oreheavy m etalish now
. Theshow
tookplaceatan old gym on theWestern
Univ
. cam pus,and theskatepunx feltat
hom ethereas therewas a hugeskating
rinkon theupperlevel. They alm ost
knocked overthevideo crew though . Oh
yeah,I help workon a weekly hardcore
show on thecablepublic access TV
channel. Any bands with videos on either
Beta or3/4 "video cassettes (if need be,
VHS form atalso) areencouraged to send
them in ; we' llgladly includethem on the
show. Tapes willbegladly returned (help
with postageappreciated) . Thanks!
And them idwestscenelives on
. Pete
Elias/1 1 0 4 N . Hagadorn Rd/E
. Lansing
MI 4 8823.
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Records
. F irst,let' s run down whathas
recently been released . SS DECONTROL
putouttheirsecond EP,"GetI tAway"
. I t
is a m uch strongereffortthan "TheKids
WillHaveTheirSay",with theproduction
giving clearerway to Springa' s vocals.
Also,theaddition of second guitarist
F rancois helps incredibly. SSDis leaving
forthewestcoastin m id-July and will
touracross thecountry on theirway back
hom e
. And speaking of going on theroad,
theF .U.' s arelining up their"world
tour". They' llbeheaded straightfor
Canada,then on to California,and
hopefully m aking a fullcirclebefore
returning to Boston . I tstarts attheend
of Augustand finishes up around Labor
Day . Ok,backto thegrooves
. PSYCHO
has finally released theirrecord,sim ply
entitled "8-Song EP"
. I t' s on theirown
label,called Ac/xtion Records. Thereare
only a thousand copies circulating,so
m akesureyoubuy itwhen youseeit.
Also,PSYCHO is putting togethera
cassette-only com pilation,and interested
bands areencouraged to send theirtapes.
Thosearetheonly two disks to havecom e
outof Boston in thelastcouplem onths,
butthere' s a shitload m oreto com ein the
nextfew. TheF REEZE' s third vinyl
offering should beoutin anothercoupleof
weeks. Talkaboutprogress: theirfirst
record was a single,then they cam eout
with an ep,and now a fullalbum is ready
forpressing on Modern Method. I twas
doneon sixteen tracks and sounds a lot
betterthan an thin . the' veeverdone
.
M I SSI O N O F BU RM A
TH EPRO LETA RI A T
SS DEC O N TRO L
JERRY'S K I DS
N EGA TI VEFX
TH EFREEZ E
TH EF .U .'
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YO U TH
C O RPS
DYS
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(ETC .)
liveperform ances,I would say I ' m looking
forward to hearing whatthey can produce
in thestudio m orethan any otherband at
this m om ent
. Oneotherrecord worth
m entioning is SMEGMA ANDTHE NUNS'
single
. I t' s called "We' llStealYourMoney"
and that' s allI ' m going to say aboutit.
And it' s only availablethrough them ail.
I n otherband news: I MPACTUNI Tis
taking som euntim ely tim eoff,because
theirdrum m er,Julie,is in California for
the

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on y six songs tey know how to play),
MI SRULE,NMA,POSTMORTEM (nam e
changeis needed),DXA,and CANCEROUS
GROWTH . Alltheaforem entioned bands are
com prised of high schoolkids,exceptfor
CG. And finally,oneadded note: we' ve
gotto giveim m ensecreditto producers
Jim m y Dufourand LouGiordanno for
spending m any hours with m any of these
bands and m aking them sound theirbest.
Withoutthehelp of thesetwo guys and
theirstudio,Radiobeat,theBoston scene
would suffergreatly.
I n tim e,
Shred
contactforinfo,shows,whatever: c/o
F rontalAssault,33 Adam s Street,
Littleton MA0 1 4 60 4 (61 7) 4 86-3927
LO U GI O RDA N O I JI M M Y DU FO U R/ M I C K
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GA N GGREEN -t erminal amput at on
TheSLETARI AT' s album is stillin te
works,butalm ostready afterm orethan
six m onths of recording
. Hands down,its
going to beBoston' s hottestrecord ever!
Rightup therewith MI SSI ON OF BURMA' s
"Vs". Backto theF .U
.' s,anotherrecord
should beoutin tim eto coincidewith their
travels. Theirfirstep is virtually sold
out,and thenew album willprobably be
on X Claim ! again
. DYS has received th-
m asters fortheirdebut. I haven' theard it
yet,butit' s supposed to behundreds o
tim es betterthan theirearliesttapes,
which-in a word-ruled! LASTRI TES is
ex-NEGATI VE F X vocalist,Choke' s,new
band
. They havenotplayed liveyet,but
intend to releasea record beforethey do.
That' s a switch. STRANGLEHOLD,a rock
and rollband sim ilarto early SLF and
CLASH,is trying to getthings togetherto
releasean ep ortwo . F rom theirexciting
JERRY"S KI DS areplaying outa lot,but
as faras I know,haven' tbeen in the
studio fora while
. They' veperm anently
added ex-GANG GREEN guitarist,Chris
Doherty,replacing DaveAronson . They
sound very intenselive,likea cross
between GBH and MOTORHEAD. By the
way,it' s official: GANG GREEN has broken
up. Brand new hardcorebands include
STP (who' vegiven oneradio station three
differenttapes of differentversions of the
N az i

reunion,

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n) Other youths protesting a Nazi SS veterans' reunion battled W
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people were sent to the hospital and seven to jail.

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spiked hair and studded bomber jackets
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Ls.
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Bad Hersfeld's main square chanting, "Naas Go Home!"
They were protesting a reunion of 500 veterans from
two of Adolf Rider's crack SS regiments and a separate
meeting of a neo-Nazi group, The National Socialist Action
Front-National Activists.
At first, the protesters, from trade unions and anti-
fascist, left-wing and Jewish groups
. paraded peacefully
through the small spa towel of Bad Hersfeld on the River
Fulda, 80 miles northeast of Frankfurt
. Some were survi-
vors of the Nazi Holocaust.
Demonstrators said the trouble began when a Volks-
wagen bus full of uniformed geo-Nans pulled into the lot
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and some demonstrators began throwing paint-filled bat
loons at the bus.
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they protected the fascists, and that made everybody
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taken away in an ambulance.
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CONNECTI CUT
H ere's
aquickupdat e fromt he N ut meg
\ st at e
.First ofall, we're nolong eraone
clubst at e .A naft erhoursclubcalledt he
%A nt hrax isnowopen, due inpart t oa
`successful benefit
.I t 'snot act ually a new
%club, but
one which hasbeenreborn. I t
`closedint he fall due t ofinancial
\ difficult ies
.Bandswhowisht oplayt here
\
cancall BrianSheridanat (203)34 8-7983.
Thebands can usually crash attheclub
5 (it' s run m orelikea hangout) if they
\don' thavea placeto stay
. Also,the
% booking
duties atPogo' s has changed
\hands
. Anyonewho wants to play there
\can callm eat(20 3) 375-94 30 orBillat
\(20 3) 375-281 3 . Wecan usually find a
\crash forbands who need itatPogo' s as
well
. Thebestniteto play thereis
Saturday,and atAnthrax on F riday.
ire
\HOURS OF TORTURE
With thatoutof theway,a littleinfo on
thebands. F irstof all, wewelcom eNO
MI LKON TUESDAYS to ourlistof bands . \
Both CI A and REF LEX F ROM PAI N have\
recorded EPs,which should beavailable
by thetim eyou read this. Thedisks were\
both recorded atPresenseStudio in East
Haven
. Thereason I ' m m entioning this is \
becauseitis often difficultto find a
studio thatknows how to dealwith
hardcore. I recom m end this placeto any
area band . They giveyou a greatam ount
of freedom atvery reasonablerates,and 4 4
capturethesound thatyouwant. Also,\
ourarea com pilation entitled "This I s
Bridgeport,NotBotswannaland"should be
availablevery soon,probably in tape\
form . F orany info orbooking possibilities
forConnecticutbands,callorwritem e. \
404 That' s aboutitfor now . . .Bands-m ake
Connecticut

stop!!!

Jeff

R/1 80 0
Huntington/Trum bullCT0 661 1

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H ardcore isalimit edt hing here ;asin
limit edt ot he imag inat ion.N o, t here are a
fewfairlydecent bands.N O FU N , a
% collegeband thatplayed ' 77stylepunk
covers and som eoriginals,havebroken
%up. Otherlocalbands includeN.O .H.
(NATI ON OF HATE),an em erging thrash
\band ; ROMAN SHADES,a hard-edged
pop-punkband; and theWARDS,who have
\existed in m any form s since' 78 . The
WARDS (personified by
lead singerT.
\Curley) can essentially takecreditfor
%breaking thebarriers in thepunkscene
\herein Verm ontby speaking outagainst
%the

college

conform ist

attitudethat
\pervades this basically peacefuland
\untroubled area,by running provoking
and funny ads in thelocalpapers,getting
%thrown outof bars becauseof the"thrash
ordie"attitude,and releasing theonly
N (as yet) thrash garagepunkEP in this
;area. I t' s a ten song EP titled "TheWorld
N.O.H.-NATI ON
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Ain' tPretty And NeitherAreWe". They
ran form ayorwith theirissues clearly
stated
: fighting to conservetherights of
streetm instrels was oneissue
. They also
try to puton all-ages gigs. Thehardcore
bands thatplay herehavea sm all
dedicated audienceranging fron "no edge"
to "straightedge"
. A m ajority though just
stand around cracking lam e,childish
rem arks instead of participating and
listening
. Butto each his own,I suppose.
Oh yeah,forgotto m ention PUBLI C
DI STURBANCE,a young skateboarding
thrash band . Whathardcorethereis here
seem s to appealto thehigh schoolkids.
That' s good.
Wehavehad som eoutof town bands play
here(OUTPATI ENTS,DEEP WOUND,ALL
WHI TE JURY,and PANI XQUADfrom
Mass .,and M.D.C . and D.R .I . from S.F .
on theRockAgainstReagan tour) . Things
arepicking up around here,butthere' s
still
a long way to go . Meanwhile,we;ll
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has itthey areworking on a tape.
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debut. ABUSE aretrying to clean up their
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had CRUCI F I X (twice),M.D.C.,DI CKS,
D.R.I .,SS DECONTROL,F REEZE,and
PROLETARI AT. Attendancehas been
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wereD.R .I .,COUNTERF ORCE,AGNOSTI C
F RONT,REAGAN YOUTH,and M.D.C.
M.D.C. havem anaged to play m oregigs in
NYoverthepast2 m onths than thought
hum anly possible. Nextup is a report
on som eof thenewerbands around New
York. Tim and I wanted to givesom e
differing coverageto thescene,and Javi
of Big City wentto workon it. That' s it
fornow. LyleHysen
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NEWSLETTER
B .T .J. s tands f or Better Youth Crganization .ee meet every
Sunday af ternoon at M21 7 Bowery . at 3 .Anyone is welc ome to c ome
to the meetinga
.Try to bring $2 with you .oe need the money to
c over exp ens e. involved in p utting on s hows .
What is the B .Y .O. about? we want to do s hows f or the s ake of
kids and mus ic , not f or s ome barownere liquor p rof its .** are
c ommitted to doing only all-ages s how ., to not s erving alc ohol
at gigs (bec aus e we want to do all-ages s hows , and bec aus e it
is amajor c aus e of violenc e and vandalis m at s hows .)
.and to
not dis c iminating agains t anyone bec aus e of rac e . s ex . age . or
hairc ut.
Our s hort-term goal is to p ut on ac oup le benef its this s ummer.
with both N .Y . and out-of -town bands .to rais e money f or our
long term goal
. whic h is to rent or buy ap ermanant hall,hop ef ully
with rehears al s p ec . . and n p lac e f or out-of -town bands to c ras h.
The Calif orniaB .Y .O . has done all this and p ut out the Someone
lot:heir Head Kic ked in c oop ilation.Fhilly B .Y .O
. has had a
um m erin ew orm eans o sunny
days
and a flood of out-of-town bands.
Along with thathoopla,som einteresting
developm ents havehappened rightherein
oi' NY.
Thebig news is thestartof a NYB.Y.O.
TheNY-BYO began on,(whatm any
considerto bethewrong foot) by
boycotting theGreatGildersleeves club.
F orsom ereason (m oney I ' m sure),Great
Gildersleeves listened to theB .Y.O .' s
dem and of ending a no-readm ittancelaw,
and,m ostim portantly,to m akeGreat
Gildersleeves all-ages. TheB.Y.O . has
severalotheram bitious plans which were
stated in thedebutcopy of theNY-BYO
fanzine.
Vinyl-wise-theURBAN WASTE EP has been
outforsom etim enow,and its first
pressing is sold out. A second pressing is
in theworks,sans MobStyleRecords and
on theirown Wasteland Records.
Differences with MobStyleled Urban Waste
to takem atters into theirown hands. They
plan on re-EQing theirrecord,as wellas
doing

som em inorchanges

in the
packaging. AGNOSTI C F RONT(BYO
forerunners) haverecorded an EP on Mob
Style. Also recorded is a CAUSE F OR
ALARM EP . There-form ed UNDEAD(with
leaderBobby Steelebeing thesole
survivor)have beendoing some recording .,
all .t ut rolice harrassent closecit - t heymayalreadyhave
A lbumsare int he worksbyREA GA N g ot t en
anewone
.M opefully. ..e canlearnfromandavoidt his.
YOUTH and NI HI LI STI CS,and a 1 2"by
theBEASTI E BOYS.
CRUCI AL TRUTH havere-form ed and
changed theirnam e. No m orethrash for
thoseguys
. VI RUS,which features Patrick
and Natz,ex of theUNDEAD,as wellas
Jerry William s,ex of BLOODCLOT,played
theirNew Yorkdebutrecently,and all
reports werepositive. Anotherband who
m adean im pressivedebutareRI NG OF
GLORY,who played theirfirstgig atthe
R .A.R
. benefit. Otherbands who played
quotes from theiralbum ,and theband
played a wholesetfrom a truckm oving
slowly through m idtown Manhattan
. The
highlightwas stopping in frontof the
Em pireStateBuilding to play "John Wayne
Was A Nazi". I twas greatto seepunks,
hippies,regulars,everyoneactually
skanking,orsortof,in thestreet.
I ntenseday forus all. I n m ay alone,we
had M.D.C .,NECROS,CRUCI F I X,CI RCLE
JERKS,CRUCI F UCKS,in town,butcould
only geta few shows off . Wein theNY
scenewho careapologizeto thesebands.
Butallis notlost,becausem eand a few
otherpeoplein town plan to buy a hall,
with a central# forout-of-town bands to
call,so wecan provideprom o,lodging,
etc. Things arelooking up here. I t' s
funny-thepeoplewho com plain them ost
abouttheNYsceneareusually ever
around-they livetoo faraway. Sincerely,
John Watson/1 66 NorfolkSt#2B/NYNY
1 0 0 0 8
OUTI N JULYOUTI N SEPT.
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; c op y o' f your f avorite Big City 45
Send $3 .00 f or p os tage,p ac kaging and ac op y
1
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LO O K O U T FO RGFA O N
TH EWEST C O A ST SO O N
A few words from NYC
. F irstbeing the
M .D.C
. paradeup 5th Ave,which was in
anyone' s opinion,thebestshow fora
while
. WhiletheNYC Policeescorted
M.D.C
. up 5th AvefortheannualYippies
Day parade,Davewas harshly yelling
S AWAGE
CI R CLE
A O '
OutNOW
OUT IN DEC
:o far, we have suceeded in getting Great Guildersleeves
to do
all
ages s hows ,at leas t when high bard guarantees do not p revent it)
to p er-it p eop le to go in and out during s hows
. and gotten rid
of one doorman who has s led p eop le at the door .This s uc es s is
rood but we have to keep in hind that its s till Guilders leevee
and that its s till not the ideal p lac e to s ee aband .That is why
we' re trying t ^this s tuf f .The Guilders leevee boyc ott has been
attac ked as " des truc tive to the s c ene" ,bec aus e it might have
led to Guilders leevee not booking any more hardc ore
.Thie dus t
p oints out that running s hows ie too imp ortant to leave to b.f .-
..
.amen and barowners who are more c onc erned with their liquor
s ales than anything about how the s how goes
. and who would rather
jus t f orget the whole thing than ris k their liquor p rof its by doing
all as s as hown
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1 am rea y fuc ing p
ss . My ange
grows with every lie,with every m ovein
hefam iliarsad story
. I t' s thesam eanger
I feltas I watched napalm ed children in
VietNam ,thesam eI feltas I watched
planes bom bthepresidentialpalacein
Chile
. Again itwells up insideof m eas I
etch ourgovernm entunm askits trueself
I n an orgy of terrorand sabotage,that
exposes us to theworld as a fraud
. And
sadder
yet,theU.S. m edia,whether
wittingly orunwittingly,plays a vitalrole
in this sad spectacle.
I t' s ourgovernm ent' s barely-concealed
efforts I n Nicaragua thatlead m eto write.
Through econom ic strangulation,open
m urder,and a barageof propaganda,the
Reagan adm inistration is bringing thefull
weightof U
.S
. pressureto bearon the
Nicaraguan revolution.
I t' s tim eto review theU.S .' s rolein
Latin Am erica,exposeI ts currentefforts
in Nicaragua,and lookatwhatitis that
theNicaraguans havethatstrikes such
fearin Washington . I t' s also tim eforus to
realizethatwe' retheonly ones who can
stop this insanity.
I n onesense,Reagan is rightto fear
theNicaraguan revolution,forit' s a beast
hich heis unableto even vaguely
com prehend-apopularm ass uprising that
em powers theworkers
. I t' s success will
definitely inspirethosesuffering underthe
U.S.' s puppetdictators in otherLatin
m erican countires. I n fact,italready
has .
ButwhatReagan and his advisors
(his chief counsellors forLatin Am ericaare
reputedly Jeane"Boom Boom "Kirkpatrick
nd William "What' s Nam ibia"Clark) should
askthem selves is whatm akes this regim e
so powerful. A recentvisitorto Nicaragua
provides partof theanswer: "Allof the
m ass organizations in thecountry are
organized from thebottom up. This is
whatm akes I tso hard to subvertorbuy
off
. I f they wereorganized from thetop
down,itwould bequiteeasy fortheU .S.
to sim ply buy off theleaders ."
And whathavetheSandinistas
ccom plished thatinspires such loyalty?
TheNew YorkTim es in a Decem ber30 ,
1 981 article,was obviously im pressed with
their

gains

in

elim inating

system atic
governm entcorruption,I n directing
overnm entservices to thelong-neglected
poor,in providing freem edicalservices
forall. Efforts haveespecially been
concentrated in ruralareas. Measles and
polio havebeen virtually wiped out),and
in providing access to thegovernm entby
I I levels of society.
Butitis theirinternationally
recognized education program thatis the
ostim pressive. I n threeshortyears they
havereduced illiteracy from over50 %of
hepopulation to 1 1 %. As oneobserver
notes,"Alleducation has an agenda.
UnderSom ozatheagendawas subjugation
to thegovernm ent. Today theagenda is
understanding im perialism . TheSandinistas
nderstand thepowerof education,and
this is really going to pay off forthem in
thefuture
. The' contras' (U.S . backed
counterrevolutionaries) also understand
this,and thatis why so m any of their
attacks aredirected againstteachers in
ruralareas."
Reagan attem pts to sm earthe
Sandinistas as com m unists,and itis true
thatsom ehavebeen heavily influenced by
Marxism ,butpragm atism and nationalism
arem uch m oreim portantin determ ining
theirpolicies. When they cam eto powerin
1 979,they inherited acountry whosesocial
structurehad been devastated by both
civilwarand earthquakes,a country
hosesocialinstitutions nad witnereo
undera half century of dictatorialrule,a
country whosegeopoliticalsituation was
such thatm any im portanteconom ic factors
wereoutof theircontrol
. Theirsuccess
as been in adapting to theseunique
elem ents,though m any of theirdecisions
would m akeMarx roleoverin his grave.
They haveform ed a strong alliance
with theCatholic Church,thesinglem ost
im portant

social

organization

in

the
ountry . During therevolution,the
grassroots church stood with thepeople
againstSom oza,and thepeoplearevery
roud of their"People' s Church."Many
riests play an

ctiveroein the
I
I
SanI nis a go ernm enteen toda
. ut
afterapparentgains,progressives within
thechurch areunderattackfrom
conservatives higherup.
Archbishop Obando y Bravos in
Managua,forexam ple,opposes the
Sandinistas,and thePope' s visitearlier
this yearwas carefully orchestrated event
designed to em barass theSandinistas and
end thepoliticalrolethechurch had been
playing in thecountry
. As oneJesuit
noted sadly afterthevisit,"We' vetried
hard to build bridges with theyouth of
this country
. Thepopehas broken those
in onefellswoop."
An Am erican nun,sisterMarjorie
Tuite,recalled thepope' s m ass in Managua
sadly as shewatched them ood of the
crowd of nearly half a m illion turn from
"loving
obedience,
to confusion,to anger"
as thepopecondem ned theleftistpriests
and nuns.
TheSandinistahavealso attem pted to
m aintain apluralisteconom y thatincludes
capitalists. I ndeed,60 %of theeconom y
rem ains I n privatehands. Theironly
alternativeto this unorthodox alliancewas
to watch thebusiness peopletaketheir
m oney and fleeto Miam i,leaving the
econom y in ruins.
ASandanistaexplains how they hope
theirplan would work,"I f itwerenotfor
I m perialism wecould talkto thebusiness
sector,establish rates of profitbased on
theirproductiveexperience,and say to
them ' This is thenew situation in
Nicaragua.' And with thepopularpower
therevolution has,thesebusinessm en
could acceptitas a realconsequenceof
thepolitical phenom ena thatNicaraguahas
lived through."
To keep theeconom y m oving,the
Sandinistas areworking with them iddle
class,butthey aretrying to keep
capitalism on aleash,tem pored by socially
consicious values. Though necessary,this
is adangerous road. I n Chile,theC .I .A.
was ableto exploitdisaffection in the
m iddleclass to destabilizetheAllende
governm ent. They areusing thesam e
strategy in Nicaragua.
On April27th,Reagan delivered his
sim plistic Latin Am erican speech to the
U .S.,painting a
bleak pictureof
encroaching com m unism to justify the
m urderand carnageheis inflicting on the
Nicaraguans. His speech was carried live
on radio and television throughout
Nicaragua. Peopleeverywherediscussed it
in detail.
Thenextnightthey responded.
1 50 ,0 0 0 people,m any of them brandishing
clubs,rifles,m achetes,orany weapon
they could find,gathered in Manag'
ua' s
m ains squarechanting "No pasaran"-
"They shallnotpass"-to theirwillingness
to defend theirgains.
I ronically,justtheweekbeforethe
U .S
. StateDepartm enthad refused a visa
to Tom as Borge,theSandanistaMinisterof
theI nterior,who had been invited to
speakatuniversities in theU
.S.
Now I askou--Who' s free?
a
.S.Policy
Reag anandhisfoolsare at t acking
t he N icarag uansont hree mainfront s--
wit h propag anda andpsycholog ical t act ics,
wit heconomicsanct ions, andwit hopen
assist ance t obandsofdisaffect ed
N icarag uansandex-membersofSomoz as
N at ional Guard.N icarag uat odayI st he
C .I .A
.'smost ambit iousoperat ionsince
t heir1973workinC hile.
Their propaganda is aim ed firstat
convincing theworld and U.S. citizens
thattheSandinistas areonly thevanguard
of thecom m unistthreatthatis engulfing
us
. This oft-used,butcom pletely
bankrupt,argum entwas sum m ed up
recently by Congressm an Gerald Solom on,
"I can tellyou,if weend covert
assistancewe' reselling theUnited States
of Am erica down thedrain
. I f that
happens allof CentralAm erica willbe
I nvolved,and then ournation willbe
severely underdirectattackfrom possible
ballistic m issies sitting 4 0 0 m iles from our
border
. And lettheAm erican taxpayer
thinkaboutthis,Who willbepaying the
costs forthem illions of refugees and
I llegalaliens com ing into this country,and
whatwould betheresultof Am erican
working peoplelosing theirjobs becauseof
theinflux of m illions of m orepeoplelike
wehad with theCubans orHaitians?"
Whileconvincing theU.S . workers
thattheirjobs depend on m urderin
CentralAm erica,ourgovernm enthas also
exploited therelocation of theMiskito
I ndians (which theSandinistas claim was
m adenecessary by them ilitary actions of
thecontras),thepope' s visit(wherethey
wentoutof theirway to welcom ehim ,only
responding when heattacked thepeople' s
church
.),and thedefection of Eden
Pastore,a hero of therevolution (through
charism atic and an excellentm ilitary
strategist,Pastoreinsisted on being in the
lim elight) to portray theSandanistas as
power-hungry

m aniacs,

intent

on
subjugating theNicaraguans.
TheU.S. I s also attem pting to
intim idate

the

Nicaraguans

in

a
carefully-orchestrated series of m ock
m ilitary m aneuvers and am phibious assaults
I n neighboring Honduras
. Also,as I write
this,U.S
. advisors arearriving in that
country to establish a new training base.
This accom panied by alm ost-daily flights of
oursuper-secretSR-71 spy planes over
thecountry in addition to constant
surveillancefrom land and sea
. ."
Can allof this intim idation haveany
othereffectthan to m aketheSandinistas
extrem ely paranoid?By driving them to
becom em oredictatorial,Reagan hopes to
discreditthem and createtheim pression
thatallleftistgovernm ents becom e
dictatorial. Thankfully,theSandinistas
havebeen able,so far,to avoid his trap.
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EconomicSanct ions
This is Reagan' s trum p card--one
thathas alm ostalways worked in thepast.
When theSandinistas cam eto power they
inherited 51 .6 billion in foreign debts,the
highest percapita debt in Latin Am erica.
Each yearthey m ust pay outa billion
dollars justto keep up thepaym ents on
this sum . This I s extrem ely difficultsince
thecountry' s exports bring in only 54 50
m illion a year. Therestm ust bem adeup
in foreign aid and loans.
YettheSandinistas havekeptm aking
theirpaym ents in an effortto stay within
thewestern banking orbit. TheU.S. is
I ncreasing thepressureby launching what
oneem bassy spokesperson term s "an
econom ic attackdesigned to killthe
revolution."On theday this is being
typed,theSandinistas haveannounced
thatthey can notm akethenextpaym ent
on theirdebt. This I llustrates thepower
of Reagan' s attack.
TheU.S. is pressuring othernations
and internationalbanking institutions to
withhold from m aking any loans to
Nicaragua. TheWorld Bankhas already
given in to this pressure,refusing to fund
any developm entprojects therein 1 982,
though they had always worked in the
country before. Reagan has been m uch
less successfulin Western Europe,where
Nicaraguacontinues to find them ajority of
its aid.
Reagan has also attem pted to sabotage
theeconom y by cutting down on
Nicaraguan im ports into theU.S . This
techniquewas quitesuccessfulin Cuba
(sugar),Chile(copper),and Jam aica
(bauxite),butfortunately Nicaragua' s two
m ajorexports,coffeeand cotton,aren' t
wholly dependenton theU.S. m arket. Two
otherm ajorexports,m eatand sugar,
howeverwillbedrastically effected by a
U .S. boycott.
Pressureon theeconom y inevitably
leads to politicalunrest,especially am ong
them iddleclass,as every day necessities
such as gas,tooth paste,toiletpaper,and
cooking oilbecom eincrasingly scarce. The
C .I .A
. hopes to fan this unrestinto open
rebellion.
The conservat ive H erit ag e Foundat ion,
whichhasanI mport ant role I nReag an's
foreig npolicy, out linedt he st rat eg y
precisely: "N icarag uanworkerscont inue t o
have anemot ional at t achment t ot he
revolut ionarymovement .Thisat t achment
canbe expect edt oweakenast he economy
det eriorat es.. ..There issome indicat ionof
g rowing broadly-basedsupport t ot ake
armst oovert hrowt he Sandinist a
g overnment andt hissupport could
I ncrease asfurt hereconomicproblems
develo' ."
tractMilita

Actions
According to theSan F rancisco
Chronicletherewere8,0 0 0 contras
operating within Nicaragua
. This num ber
should betaken with a bucketof salt,as
I twas fed to thepaperby theU.S.
governm entwhich has arecord of inflating
such figures . Theirstated roleis to
"interdictarm s being sentto ElSalvador."
Yettherehas neverbeen any
evidenceof arm s being ' interdicted .'
Rather,thecontras seem I ntentor.
terrorizing ruralareas and destroying the
country' s econom ic infrastructure--blowing
up bridges,burning crops,and m urdering
agriculturaltechnicians and teachers.
Rekha Basu,a U.S. reporterwho
toured northern Nicaragua and saw m uch
evidenceof thecontra' s workreferred to
them in TheNation as "brutal
' ndiscrim inateOffers' w t"rape,torture,
idnaping and m urder"theirpreferred
attics.
Carlos Nunez,a Sandinista leader,
hinks theU.S . is m aking abig m istakein
upporting thecontras especially those
roups m adeof Som oza' s ex-national
uardm en . "This is whattheAm ericans
on' tseem to understand . TheSom ozcista
om m itted such crim es during thewarthat
everwillany Nicaraguans accepttheir
eturn."
And,though 375 Nicaraguans have
een killed in thelastthreeyears,there
s very littlehopethatthecontras can
akeon theSandinista' s arm y . Theirrole
s sim ply oneof harassm ent,draining
um an resources,m oney,m aterials,and
nergy to keep theSandanistas from
ebuilding theircountry.
Therecentannouncem entby
ecretary Schultz in theU .S. press that
hecontras havea good chanceof
overthrowing theSandinistas by theend of
heyearis justanotherexam pleof our
edia' s willingness to play along with
eagan' s pschologicalwarfare.
Blatantm ediacom plicity has also been
videntin thecoverageof theC .I .A.' s
ttem ptto poison Sandinista F oreign
tinisterMiguelD' Estoto which resulted in
heexpulsion of C .I .A. station chief David
Grieg and two others from theU.S.
bassy.Thoug hI heardvag ue rumorsof
ideot apedmeet ing s, avial ofpoison, and
edible messag e paper(rat herdamning I t
seems), t he U .S.presst reat edt he whole
episode ajust anot her'diplomat icincident .'
O urag eous! H owwouldt he pressreact I f
t he N icarag uanst riedt opoisonJean*
K irkpat rick?
The O ut come
I t' s allso obvious,allof thehorrible
details,allof theatrocities perpetrated in
ournam es with ourm oney. So whatcan w
expectto betheoutcom eof ourcovert
war?WayneSm ith,theform erhead of the
U .S . I nterestSection in Havana provides
onescenario,"Thesecretwarwill
certainly solvenothing . I twillnotgetrid
of theSandinistas,ithas notinterdicted
any arm s,and itcertain! won' t' ressure
theSandinistas to hold elections . Quitethe
opposite. I ts resultwillbeto leaveus
withoutany I nfluencein Nicaragua,with
no controloverthecourseof events . . . . I
would say thattheReagan adm inistration
is leading us into a disasterof thefirs
m agnitude."
TheNicaraguans answeris m uch m ore
,
blunt,"I f theU.S . I nvades,wewillgrind
them into dust."
TheU.S. in Latin Am erica
OurMoralRight?
"I thinkweabsolutely havea m oral
rightto do whatwe' redoing I n
Nicaragua."This surprising adm ission by
Reagan' s advisorEdwin MeeseI I I (What
exactly arewedoing there?) is only the
latestexam pleof theself-rightous
I m perialism that has always m arked U.S.
policy in theWestern Hem isphere. Herear
a few otherexam ples wherewehave
exercised our"m oralright."
Nicaragua (1 926-1 933) U .S. Marines occupy
thecountry foralm ostseven years to put
down apopularrevolt(Led by theSandino
forwhom thecurrentrevolutionaries are
nam ed .) and installtheSom oza
dictatorship.
Guat emala(1954 )The C .I .A .org aniz esa
milit arycoupt oovert hrowJacobA rbenz 's
democrat icallyelect edprog ressiv
g overnment .Since t hiscoup, Guat emala
hasbeencont inuallyt erroriz edbyaseries
ofbrut al milit aryreg imes.
C uba(1961)The U .S.org aniz esandbacks
TT-BayofPig s I nvasioninanat t empt
overt hrowC ast ro.The invasionisa
complet e failure .Since t hist ime t h
C .I .A .resort st onumerousunsuccessful
at t empt st opoisonC ast ro.
Braz il (1964 ) The U .S.g overnmen
act ivelybacksamilit arycoupovert hrowing
t he popularlyelect edg overnment ofJoao
Gout art
.Goulart 'ssinwast ot alkof
redistributing theland,nationalizing
certain industires,and legalizing the
com m unistparty.
Dom inican Republic (1 965)
23,0 0 0 m arines
invadethecountry to prop up dictator
Juan Cabralwho is being challenged by
thedem ocratic forces of Juan Bosch.
Bosch had been elected presidentin th
country' s
firstfreeelections in 1 962, but
had been overthrown by Cabral
. Chile
(1 973) Theelected governm ent of Sa
via-ar
Allende,which had been attem pting a
peacefultransition to Marxism ,is toppled
by theC.I .A. Afterchoking the
governm entwith econom ic sanctions,and
providing

financial

backing

to

the
opposition,theC .I .A. resorts to a brutal
m ilitary coup thatkills thousands.
Revelations of theAgenciy' s rolein Chile
leads Congress to attem ptto regain control
overitby banning such covertactivities.
Obviously they' vefailed.
ElSalvador(1 983) With 55 m ilitary
aivisorsinn thecountry and ourpuppet
stilllosing,can theinvasion befar
behind?
This is justa quicksurvey of U.S.
policy. To listallof thetim es we' v
intervened would takeup too m uch
space. . . there' s Cuba (1 90 6-1 90 9,
1 91 7),
TheDom inican Republic (1 91 6-1 924 ),Haiti
(1 91 5-1 934 ),and Guatem ala(1 920 ) and on
and on. . . Even today,oneof ourLati
Am erican em bassy' s m ain functions I s to
m aintain an up-to-datehitlistof leftists
who can besnuffed outI n any up-com ing
coups . Phillip Agee(An ex-CI A Agent)
refers to this I n his bookI nsideThe
Con an ,"Each CI A station in iF Wester
Hem ispherecarries a listof leftists whom
thestation considers dangerous . The
LYNX Listis m aintained in casea local
governm entin tim eof crisis should askfor
assistancein theem ergency preventiv-
detention of dangerous persons ."
History tells us thatwewillsoon
send in thetroops . I f you' reof draftage
orin theservice,you' d betterthinkabout
I tand getinvovived to stop itbeforeI t' s
too late.
Much of theI nform ation I n this article
was adapted from "Ninety
Years of F orce
in Latin Am erica"which
appeared in I n
TheseTies,Aril 6-1 2,1 98
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.Bandsare
list edinalphabet ical
order.
N TI DO TE are :
Louie - vocals
Nunz -guitar
Brian -bass
Bliss -drum s
This Manhatten band has been togetherfor
aboutsix m onths
. Sincethen,they' ve
gotten a new singerand areplaying m ore
often now atA7,CBGB,Gildersleeves,
and Philly. They' verecorded theirdebut
single,which should beoutrealsoon.
Som e
song titles are"DieatWar", "Lifeas
One","NaziYouth","GotMeOn a Line",
and "Zero Mentality". They havea heavy
m etal thrash kind of sound,closeto the
BADBRAI NS,youcould say
.
M
BI TTER UPROAR are: Jim -vocals
Mike-guitar
Tom -bass
Jeff -drum s
A Staten I sland band who havebeen
togethersinceJanuary. They only played
two tim es so far
. This young band plans
on recording soon
. A livesong willappear
on thesecond Big City com pilation . Som e
songs are"They Cam eF irst",
"Neighbors","DifferentLikeMe",and
"F erry F ood"
.
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M ike - g uit ar
Phil-drum s
Adam -bass
This Rockland
band' s been togethersince
Novem ber
' 82 and haveplayed A7,CBGB,
and Mass. Currently recording a record
and arehoping to tour
anywherethis
sum m er
. They willbeon theBig City
com pilation also
. Songs are"Enem y","Bye
Bye","HeMy Dog",and "Mom m y' s a
Ghoul".
M
C A U SE,
FO RA LA RM are : A lex - Guit ar,
ug lyfaces
Rob- bass
Keith -vocals

M
Rob-drum s
This very intenseNYC thrash band has
been .ugetheras CF A sinceF ebruary.
Originally a N
.J. band known as
HI NCKLEYF AN CLUB . They' veplayed
Virginia Beach,Cleveland,Connecticut,
and Brooklyn besides in thecity
. Single
outsoon and hopefully a cuton theBig
City com p
. An EastCoasttourthis
sum m er. Songs are"I dentity",Second
Chance","Tim eto Try",and "Poison in
theMachine".
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C O U N TERFO RC Eare : Shelly- vocals
Lisa -
vocals
F rank-guitar
Rob- drums
Frenchy- bass
This Manhatten band has been together
since
F eb. and has only played twice,at
Aland Gildersleeves . Theband plans
buying a van so thatthey can tour
sum m er. No recording plans as yet
. S
M titles are"MiddleAgeDelinquency"
a Million","WhiteCollarCrim e",
M
and "C ount erforce"
.Rob fromC FA plays
drumsfort hemalso.
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Lifein theBig City (New York) is so
m uch easierform esincethere' s so m any
localbands to see. This scenedoesn' tlook
likeitwilleverdie. Shows happen alm ost,
every othernightorso . New bands are
com ing outon an
averageof a band a
week. Crucialintensified New York
hardcorefrom allparts of thestate.
Manhatten,Bronx,Brooklyn,Astoria,
Connecticut,and even Westchesterm ake
up theBoroughs of thefinestbands we' ve
got. Punkrock' s been around heresince
' 78,and ouroldesthardcorebands have
been gigging since' 81
. Who knows whatit
willlooklikein theyears to com e. There
arealm osttoo m any bands com ing outnow' .
I hopethey getenough gigs to support
them selves
. Thebands thatarecurrently
playing as often as possibleareKRAUT,
THE MOB,REAGAN YOUTH,HEART
ATTACK,ULTRA VI OLENCE,F ALSE
PROPHETS,UNDEAD,MI SGUI DED,
AGNOSTI C F RONT,URBAN WASTE,THE
ABUSED,and NO THANKS
. Unfortunately,
a few bands willm ostlikely neverget
backtogether. XKI ,SAVAGE CI RCLE,and
ARMEDCI TI ZENS
havebroken up for
good . Thenew bands m entioned in this
articleareonly a few of them any out
now . Allhavebeen around forno longer
than six m onths orso. Thenewerbands
thataren' tlisted areF RONTLI NE,MAJOR
CONF LI CT,GI LLI GAN' S REVENGE,
PUBLI C TOYS,PURE SKI SM,PSYCHOS,
T.D
.V .,and VI CTI MS OF SOCI ETY. I ' d
liketo thankallthebands that
participated with this project. Mirand Lyle
too. Keep itsteady -JaviSavage
HOLYTERRORS are: Steve-guitar
Joe-guitar

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Danny -vocals

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Jim -drum s
Theband is from Ridgewood,Queens and
havebeen togetheraround six m onths.
Besides playing som eparties,theband has
played Studio 4 ,Heckleand Jeckle,My
F ather' s Place,and CBGB' s
. They will
appearon theBig City com pilation also.
Song titles are"5$","Cops and Donuts",
M ",

p .'

Nonsense".
MURPHY"S LAW are
: Jim m y -vocals,bong
Alex -guitar
Harley -drum s
Adam -bass
This m ostly Drug Edgethrash band
started playing atthePlug ClubNew
Year' s Eve82-83 . Sincethen,they' ve'
played A7,CBGB,Philly
. They plan on
touring theEastCoastwith theMOB . A
tapeshould beoutsoon from this half
Queens,half Manhatten band . Songs are
"F un","SitAtHom eand Rot","I Gotthe
Bong",and "Skinhead Rebel". Harley
played drum s fortheSTI MULATORS and
BLOODCLOT. Jim m y was in theCAVI TY
CREEPS,Adam currently plays
bass for
AGNOSTI C F RONTal
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Kitty -bass
Tony -drum s
Blake - g uit ar
This NYC band has been togethersince
Decem ber. They' veplayed a lotrecently at
A7,CBGB,Gliders,Sin Club, and Blue
Moon
. They areputting outa singlesoon
and would liketo play everywhere. They
willhavea song on thenextBig City
com p
. entitled "Nice-N-Loud". Songs are
"Suicide","Johnny","Madhouse",and
"How Do You WantTo Die". Kit used to be
in XK I,K ILLER INSTINCT (R
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R QSIMAR S
AUTI STI C
*Greet ing sfromt he Garbag e St at e .A lot
*hasbeenhappening since I wrot e last .
*M ainlyt he birt hoflot sofnewbands.
*Despit e t he scene being very scat t ered,
*we've manag edt ocount over4 0 bands.
The onesI 'mmost familiarwit hare;
STETZ
SA C RED
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F ARTHEADS takeA.O.D
.' s antics onestep
further. Theirsongs
areaboutlove,
farts,and police
. And on a good night,
lovely farting police
. Som eof theirsongs
are"I t' s A F artache","TheF arts Blow
On",and "Sam m y
Davis' Eye". This
band
is destined to solvethegas crisis
.
SAMBO,STETS,and SANDI N F ACE
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That' s allfornow. Boy Georgeloves you.
F orm oreinfo,bookings,ordem os (send - 4
$3 forthem , and specify thebands) write:
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DEN I A L.A veryyoung bandt hat
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Theyare fast , creat ive, hardworking , and
*oast veryint ellig ent andhumorouslyrics.
Theirrecent
demo ishot t ert hanSerena
Dankinasee-t hroug hnig ht ie ._
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ADRENALI N O .D. havereleased and sold
outof their"Let' s Barbeque" EP . Wewill
berepressing real soon . GuitaristJim
F osterhas leftforgreenerpastures,and
has been replaced by roadieBruce
Wingate. PaulRichard is now playing
guitaras wellas singing . We' vebeen
getting a lotof shows lately,them ostfun
being on a recenttrip to Pittsburgh,
whereweplayed with locals REAL ENEMY
and Connecticut' s C .I .A. (whoserecord is
now out-buy it-bestEastCoastreleaseto
date) . We' verecently recorded forsom e
com pilation LPs,including "WeGotPower".
Rum ors of a livedoubleA.O.D. at
Budoken arefalse
. I t' s a tripleLP live
from theU .S. F estival.
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Torch . . . A new hangoutis RebelRouser* ,
record and bookstore. . .half-ownerSal is
supportiveof localbands and zines,and*
stocks allcoolstuff . A new addition will*
bea copy m achineforbands to useto*
m akeflyers,and zines to print*
issues. . .PeanutGallery is thenewestplace*
to book hardcore
. . .
.theShow Placein*
BEDLA M have t obe seent obe believed.
:They are a heavyband fromU niont hat
willm akeyoubusta kidney with laughter.
*Theirsinger,Jim Dunleavy,is a great
*frontm an
. He' s been called theF red
*F lintstoneof hardcore
.
Thebig thing at
*theirshows (besides Donleavy) arem assive
*pile-ons on top of him . Herecently carried
*1 3 punks,2 cops,a nun,and Sandy
*
Duncan' s fakeeyefor a new world' s
*record. They havea greatnew dem o,with
songs

like

"Buddy

F ucker"

and
*songs

Club". NEW JERSEY' S

F I NESTarea fairly new band thatis
*starting to pulltogether. They area fast
*thrash band with a good senseof hum or.
*They haveplayed Ohio,Conn .,etc,and
*arestarting to m akea nam efor

*them selves. They too havea dem o out

m essed up them ixes,picked only 4 good

*which is totally bitchin' .

bands forit,and m adethem pay to beon

Doveris now booking hardcore,and m ight,

*ROSEMARY' S BABI ES arean incredibly

it. I n Septem ber, the"Arm pitOf Am erica"

be

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*fastthrash band from Lodi. I haven' tseen

com p. willbeout,with alm ost30 N.J.

efforts. . .Zines around areSm ash Apathy!

,them yet,butI hearthey arequite

bands . Clubs arescarce,butexist. Other

P . Harnett/30 2 High St0 1 -37/F airlawn*

*awesom e. Theirlead singer,J.R .,is a

bands worth m entioning areMENTAL. NJ0 74 1 0 and m y Assassin Of Youth! P .O .*

*skinhead body builderthatm akes Mr.

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Photo by John
Othernews. .AUTI STI C BEHAVI OR' s EP is
notcom ing out. Butlookforones from
1 F CSEMARY' S BABI ES and MOURNI NG
NOI SE. The"Dirt" com pilation 0 2 called
"Hardcore
Takes Over"is out. DON' TBUY
I T. They ban hardcorefrom theirclub,
Editor,

which was
a sham ebecausethey' rean
Afterreading thelettersentin by

excellentband . Som epeoplejuststood

Ray fron AGNOSTI C F RONT(Jan-F eb' 83,

around wondering whetherthey liked itur

no
. 4 ) I was so glad thattherewas

notand others werewrestling and fooling

som eonewho really understood what

around with each other. Only about2 or3

hardcoreis about
. His letterwas great

guys danced.
and I feelthesam eway hedoes.

By thetim eADRENALI N O .D. (oneof

I ' m writing becauserecently I was at

thefew exceptions to theJersey Rule

a hardcorem atineeatCBGB' s,a New Yorkwhich says-Jersey rules,New Yorksucks)
tookthestageI was so fed up and
disgusted thatI walked out. I twas the
worstday forNew YorkthatI ' veever
seen .
Anotherbad thing aboutitallwas
thatitwas being film ed . I thinkitwas
supposed to bea docum entary typething
forEuropean kids showing whattheNew
Yorkand/orAm erican hardcoresceneis
like
. I don' tcareforthem edia and it
really pisses m eoff to seeallthosefuckin'
TV cam eras atshows. I feelthatthey' re
trying to exploitthesceneand thepeople
involved . This belongs to us and they
haveno business com ing in likethey do.
I ' m nottrying to say thatNew York
kids don' tgetoutof hand,becausesom e
of them do,butthoseJersey kids really
fucked things up . Notonly did they m ake
com pletefools outof them selves,butthey
m adeNew Yorklookeven worse.
My boyfriend Larry is guitaristfor
T.D.V . (THI RTEEN DAYVACATI ON) and
they' rea Jersey band,so youcan im agine
how hefelt
. Hetoo is anotherexception to
Jersey' s hardcoreRule. Heis oneof the
very few Jersey punks who liketheNew
Yorkscene. He' s no Nazion thedance
floorlikethoseotherkids were. Hefeels
(likeRay,m yself,and I ' m sureplenty
others) thateverybody should support
everybody and thatif thereareto beany
kinds of changes (social,political,etc.)
thatweshould allbeunited in ourfight
forthem . I thinkhefelt even worsethan
I did. I was really pissed off . I m ean,
shit,we' reallroughly around thesam e
a ewe' reallon thesam efuckin' 1

Stahen
I lard,New York
w
neary con s,an was s g y s

sows in
Phllly and m aking theiroW
atthebizarrelooking people. Thecops
gotdozens of iratephonecalls becauseof
theMise. Therollowing day,them ayor,
policecaptain,Bureauof Licenses and
I nsurance, and thezoning board contacted
theownerand realtorto tellthem to get
us thefuckout of therethat sam eday.
They did. Two m onths of
booked gigs had
to becancelled,but som ehappened at
the
new all-ages venue,LoveHall. They
decided to allow all-ages shows,butwon' t
deal
with Philly B.Y.O. Howard Saunders,
who knows thesepeople,and a sm allgroup
of friends,including peoplewho also work
forPhilly B .Y.O .,havebeen putting on
thoseshows. Bands can contact SteveEye
aboutLoveHall at(21 5)627-0 84 0 . Hecan
also becontacted abouthis video projects
and theskatecorescene.
club. Thebands on thebillwere:
MURPHY' S LAW(New York),SACRED
DENI AL(New Jersey),CI A(Connecticut),
and ADRENALI N O.D. (New Jersey) ..
Now,having a billwith New Jersey and
New Yorkbands is sortof taking a chance
becausea lotof Jersey punks hateNew
Yorktotally. Notallof them arelikethat,
butunfortunately therearen' tm any
exceptions . I t' s alm ostliketheway a lot
of D.C. punks glorify only D.C . bands.
They (Jersey) usually haveto com eto New
Yorkto seetheirfavoritebands because
m ostJersey clubs aretoo afraid,too
m indless,ortoo fascistto bookany
hardcoreshows. Them ostJersey' s done
forhardcoreis puttogethera com pilation
of Jersey bands. I twas totalexploitation
though becausetheclubinvolved refuses
to havehardcoreshows.
MURPHY' S LAW wereup first. They
arenotonly a good band,butthey havea
lotof fun. Mostly New Yorkkids were
dancing . Therewas absolutely NO fighting
orchaos
. Everybody had a good tim eand
gotalong . Now I don' tm ean to putdown
New Jersey,butas soon as SACRED
DENI AL wereup things changed
DRASTI CALLY. AlltheJersey punks there
started theirown version of slam m ing
which sim ply was sprinting around the
circlebeating theshitoutof everybody.
Therewas even som estupid jockasshole
who justwentinto them iddleto hit
people
. SACREDDENI AL werepretty good
atfirst,butthen they gotreally sloppy
and theJersey punks gotworse.
CI A otalm ostno responseatall
Sincethelast report,therehavebeen
m any changes
. F rom F eb. to m id April
m any out-of-town bands headlined gigs
thathelped raisethem oney to open the
Philly B .Y.O. hall. Severallocalbands
played too,usually attheirown expense,
to help thehall
. Thesebands wereRUI N,
I NF ORMEDSOURCES,AUTI STI C
BEHAVI OR,SEEDS OF TERROR,YD1 ,
F LAG

OF

DEMOCRACY,

CRI B
DEATH /BLUNDER

BOYS,

F I NAL
CONF LI CT,AMERI CAN DREAM (Bethlehem
Pa),and thenow defunctBABY
CULTURE . Thehallopened on April30
with localbands STI CKMEN,I NF ORMED
SOURCES,SEEDS OF TERROR,and the
HEATHENS,which broughttogetherHC
and non-HC punks. Therewere3
floors-oneforgigs,oneforskating,and
onefor
concessions/hanging out/m eetings.
Therewas also a basem entfor rehearsal
space. Theowner/landlord is a suprem e
assholewho m adeit
very hard to get,and
was always adding new conditions (the
worstbeing a big m andatory insurance
policy) .
May 1 was a m atineeshow,and thatwas
when theshithitthefan. Theshow itself
was great-CRUCI F I X,WHI TE CROSS,
MERCENARI ES,A STATE OF MI ND
. The
m ayorarrived to visitsom eoneatthe
Also,a izarreband called MORE F I ENDS
organized a coupleof party gigs in hom es,
and a benefitform edicalaid to El
Salvadorwith localbands. AMERI CAN
DREAM organized a show in Bethlehem to
bring them usic to peoplefurtheraway
from thecity. A sceneis now beginning
thereand is highly energetic. Thereare
now m oreLehih Valleunks om into
v ng asame si, sowy
t he fuckcan't we all just be friendsand
unit e?!! There'snoneedforall t he
st upid, senselessviolence at shows.I t 's
because ofassholeslike t hose Jerseykids
t hat t he mediaexploit usfort he pleasure
ofmoralist swholike t ot hinkofusas
wort hless deg enerat es. Fig ht ing wit heach
ot herprovesnot hing .I t onlyshows
ig norance .A lot ofkidsare sucheg ot ist ic
moronssoint ent ont rying t obe t he best
and t rying t o lookcool t hat t hey can' t
underst andhardcore'swhole purpose-
whichist ot hinkandact foryourself
(event houg hskinheadist urning int ot he
conformit yeverybodywant st oavoid)and
t osupport eachot her.Everybody'salways
screaming andpreaching A narchy! Peace!
andU nit y! andall t hat ot hershit .I 'm
calling it shit because t hat 'sall it seems
like now
.I fpeople pract icedwhat t hey
preached, noscene couldbe called
"fucked". We' d alluniteand fight
together--theway itwas always supposed
to be. I s thattoo m uch of a hassleortoo
m uch to ask?!! I f youcan' ttrustyour
parents orsociety and youhateRonald
Reagan and theMoralMajority and then
yougo to a show and fightwith yourown,
then youm ightas wellgiveitup because
with theworld theway itis,we' reall
we' vegot. Welosethatand welose
everything . Wewillhaveproven absolutely
nothing and hardcorewillbewritten off as
justanotherpassing fad. Then what?
What' ll everybody do,cry "boo hoo hoo,
what' d we
do
wrong?"!!
Com e
off it!! You
can' thaveitboth ways! Eitherforgetall
thedifferences between peopleand be
friends and uniteorstay a m indless Nazi.
and fuckitallup tillthere' s nothing left.
Makeup yourm inds already!! I know m ine
is-and I chooseto supporteverybody
becauseunlikesom eof youassholes I
know thatNO ONE RULES!!

Lynn
85 VeraSt reet
cont ribut ionsandproject s
.M anymore
people are nowmot ivat edt oexpress
t hemselvesby put t ing out new
sheet sand
z ines, andamaz ing st uffiscoming out .
Theyall seemt ohave veryposit ive ideas,
diversit y, andorig inal mat erial fromlocal
cont ribut ors.A nt i- A nt iisnow3issues
old, andcont inuouslyg et sbet t er
.C ount er
A t t ackhas2veryg oodissueswit h
impressive int erviewsandanalysisofM / TV
andpunkinmedia
.U p-roarreleasedit s
premierissue, aswell asLaboramnia
Vincit , andSlam6 Enjoy.A ll t hree are
g reat
.O t hernewz inesare being planned.
O lderz ineslike SurplusValue andPoseur
are st ill coming out
.There are nowseveral
issuesofSkat ecore .Die Young will
self-dest ruct aft er#4 , t he "kill Die Young "
issue
.A llisonRaine, edit orofSavag e
Pink, andRobbie Exploit are moving t o
C alif
.t ost art ananarchist punkcollect ive
wit hC RU C I FI X
.Theycanbe reached
t hroug ht he bandandwill cont inue Savag e
PinkandA STA TEO F M I N D.Terminal is
more est ablished, asoppossedt ot he
underg roundz ines, andst ill comesout .
Z eke, formerbassplayerofFLA GO F
DEM O C RA C Y, hasnowformedM cRA D .H e
wasreplacedbyC RI BDEA TH 'sdrummer,
Dave .C RI BDEA TH chang edt heirname t o
t he BLU N DERBO YS .SEEDS O F TERRO R
sing erSmall isrumoredt obe leaving t he
band.LI TTLEGEN TLEM EN have releaseda
3-song

EP

ent it led

"Suicide N ot es".
A U TI STI C BEH A VI O Rare nowwit ht heir
second

replacement bassplayerfor
long t ime memberC raig
.A ft ersome
difficult iesand"breakups" t heynowseem
st able andreadyt omove forwardag ain
(alt houg ht he EP isuncert ain)
.A ft er"law
andorder" fascist / racist FrankRiz z o's
unsuccessful comebackat t empt int he
mayoral race, Y DI chang edt heirsong
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SOCI AL PARASI TES (from Lehigh Valley)
was thrown outof schoolforwearing punk
bracelets.
Thecurrentstateof Philly B .Y.O. is
uncertain
. Many reacted strongly to the
eviction and left. Therestwantto work
on a localcom pilation LP . A localDJalso
announced plans forone
. I f Philly B.Y.O.
continues afterthecom p,itwillchangeits
nam e,as agreed to a whileago . Also,
som eof us areorganizing a benefitgig for
theVancouver5,who werepublicized here
recently when D.O .A
. spokeof them .
Ronald Thatcher/Philly BYO/P
.O .Box
4 ' 1

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were most ot he elaware punkshang
out forshows, andt heylist ent oM aximum
RnRonPhil!'' ,
K DU .There isa
D E LA WA R E
I ncase you don't knowwhere Delaware is,
I t 'sahemorrhoidt hat hang soff
Pennsylvania.The scene here ispret t y
small, but isconst ant lyg rowing .A ct ually
I t 'snot bad, considering t here are only
t woact ual cit iesint he st at e .A sofnow,

t t
t here are 3punkbandsinoperat ion.
Y .I .A .fromWilming t on, P.O .W.from
N ewark, andS.D.S.(SalvadorDeat h
Squad)fromDover, not t oment iont he
I I I -fat edD.S .D.B
.A t present t here are
bout 60 punksint he st at e, andyet , t he
numberskeepg rowing .The onlyplacest o
layare assort edst eakhouses, movie
t heat ers, t he beach, part ies, et c
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Wellit' s been a long tim eand a lothas
appened sincethelastscenereport.
MI NOR THREATis backin town and in the
studio to rem ix and repackagethe"OutOf
tep"1 2". Also in thestudio areI RON
CROSS,being produced by LylePreslar;
F AI TH with the5-m an lineup; and
NI TEDMUTATI ON doing theirfarewell
dem o.
-F AI TH
~~`~,aaaaGOVERNMENTI SSUE' s "BoycottStabb"1 2"
is is out,soon to befollowed by a 4 -song 7"
EP,featuring Brian Bakerof MTon
guitar. MARGI NAL MAN and
NSURRECTI ON areduein thestudio
soon . TheDOUBLE-O EP is outon R&B
Records . OutsideRecords' "Mixed Nuts
on' tCrack"com pilation LP,featuring
several

lesser

known

D
.C .

bands
(NUCLEAR CRAYONS,MEDI A DI SEASE,
ATE F ROM I GNORANCE,and the
now-defunctUNI TEDMUTATI ON,SOCI AL
SUI CI DE,and CHALKCI RCLE) is in the
tores now. Also outis a 3-song EP by NO
TREND,and a 7"singlefrom D.C .' s own
heavy m etalgods,THE OBSESSED.
ENB (Eric' s New Band) has finally changed
theirnam e. .
.to DOVE . MI NOR THREATis
onceagain a fourpiecewith Brian m oving
backto bass and Steveplaying guitarin a
new band with ex-DOUBLE-0 and UNI TED
MUTATI ON m em bers
.
Thefirstin,hopefully,a string of varied
shows tookplaceattheWilson Center.
F eatured bands wereENB,SCREAM,BODY
COUNT(slightly ska influenced),MI CHAEL
ENKRUMAH and theI SRAELI TES (reggae),
and
;STATI C DI SRUPTERS (funk) . STATI C
Dstoletheshow with theirD.C. style
go-go funkand had practically everyon
dancing . Anotherdiverseshow was the
OutsideRecords m atineeatthe9
:30 Club.
Theshow gaveexposureto severalbands
thatwould norm ally havea difficulttim e
getting booked . UNI TEDMUTATI ON took
thehonors with a com pletely chaotic and
frenzied setsom ewhatrem iniscientof a
VOI Dshow. Theonly otherband that
really stood outwas NUCLEAR CRAYONS,
who m anaged to drivepeopleoutwith their
grating "noise"and m anic yells.
Last,butnotleast: bands thatwill
leaving this faircity forthethrills of
touring : MARGI NAL MAN areplanning a
shortm idwesttour. SCREAM and G.I . wil
betouring this sum m er. . .seperately. NO
TRENDarealso doing som esortof sum m er
tour.
F inally,Kent,drum m erforSCREAM,got
m arried,and G.I . havea new bassist-Rob,
ex of ARTI F I CI AL PEACE .
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The Richmondscene isreallyyoung and
fullof energy,with alotof up and com ing
new bands. Good sceneand good kids.
Virginia Beach has a scene,no club,and
half a band . Thepunks hereusually drive
the21 hours to gigs in Richm ond . I f any
bands wish to play here,youshould
contactDeetNovak, 925
N
. Plantation Dr,
Virginia Beach,VA 234 54 . Phone
1 -80 0 -4 81 -4 64 5. Mostbands pass them up
causethey don' tknow there' s a scene.
They' rem orethan starving forany kind
of punks to play here.
I m iss S.F .,and willbebacksoon.
Anarchy and Peace. Love,Kenji
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RI C H M O N D
Oneof Richm ond' s best clubs (who booked
hardcorebands),
the538 Club,gotclosed
down becausethey losttheirliquor
license. Butif allgoes well,itwillopen
again soon . Anotherlocalbar,Going
Bananas,
is having HC every Wednesday
night-usually a touring band and
2 local
bands.
WHI TE CROSS has a few m orecopies of
theirdebutEP available,with new vinyl
im m inent. HONOR ROLE/GRAVEN I MAGE
tapeis availablenow. Both thesebands
ripp. Buy this tape-send a few bucks to:
m en Rollins/ 84 1 3
Michaels Rd/Richm ond
VA 23229 .
DEATH PI GGYis now only a
fond m em ory (sorry I an) . SingerDave
Brockiehas gonebackhom eto Arlington.
Boo-fuckin-boo! Bob. and Russ are
form ing a new band,tentatively nam ed
CREMAI NS. Cliff and Dobey willalso be
form ing a new band . So we' velostone,
gained two. Notbad.
Me,Cliff,Dobey,and Bobhaveourown
HC radio show called theHardcoreHourOf
Power. I t' s on F riday nights, 7-1 0 PM.

year. They wantto keep thekids away so

interest,and began lashing outsongs left

Any bands with dem os,records,etc,can

they can have' norm al' custom ers com eto

and right. Sothira really puton a good

send m aterialto m y address and we' llplay

seelam erockbands. Anyway,after

show . They played two encores.

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m y firsttasteof Virginia punk
recently,ata placecalled Benny' s in
Richm ond . NO LABELS from Raleigh
played. They sound kinda likea SoCal
beach band,and havesom every hardcore
songs and a good following . Then GRAVEN
I MAGE from Richm ond played
. They' rea
good thrash band,and have
a 1 4 song
tapeout. Thekids herearevery fun
loving,non-violenttypes who arevery
cool. They had anotherclubcalled the
Casablanca,butitchanged owners,and
thenew ones d n' tallow punks to play
becausethey saw som ekids with spikes
diving off speakers ata DK' s gig herelast
GRAVEN I MAGE played,on .. . .eWHI TE
CROSS. I can' tsay enough aboutthis
band
. They' rereally hot,and had
everyonethrashing . Afterthem ,S.F .' s
own F ANG played,as they aretouring
Am erica with CRUCI F I X
. Thecrowd kinda
liked them ,butdidn' texactly understand
them . CRUCI F I X was greeted with jeers,
butafteronesong they had thecrowd' s
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Despitethecom bined influenceof Jam es
WASH DC-July 4 . I tcouldn' tbestopped.
Watt,Nancy and Ronnie,WayneNewton,
and opposition from rightwing "fam ily"
organizations,theshow tookplaceover
theJuly 4 th weekend
. TheDEAD
KENNEDYS,

M.D.C .,

D.R .I .,
CRUCI F UCKS,CAUSE F OR ALARM,
C .I .A.,TOXI C REASONS,and m any other
finesocially and politically awarem usicians
and speakers converged on theLincoln
Mem orialfor2 days of cross-cultural
stim ulation.
Theearly m orning sun beatdown bright
()and hotJuly 3,as theR .A.R . road crew
ifinished assem bling theP .A. scaffolding
around thecaravan' s flatbed truck. People
had already
begun arriving,staking out
shady spots neartheReflecting Pool.
TOXI C REASONS gottheliveschedueleoff
on therightfootwith a tight,high-energy
setin theearly afternoon . Several
speakers of varied politicalinterest(m ostly
pro-pot-in m y opinion,a big wasteof
energy on a peripheralissue) interspersed
sets by New York' s C .F .A. (an excellent
1 0 -m inutesurprise),theCRUCI F UCKS
(putthefearof Doc in everybody),
D.R .I . (hotterthan ever),and a few
otherartists.
Thesun m ercifully wentdown during
M.D.C .' s set,m aking things easieron
everyone. By now a few serious diving
injuries had already been sustained,but
Klaus F louridetookthecrucialbailof the
slipping from thebackof the4 - day,foot
()stage,and landing likea cat! TheDKs
L played a frenetic 4 0 m inutes to a crowd
estim ated

at

20 0 0 -250 0 .

Though

the
l
udiencehad been solar-soaked for1 2
hours,they putso m uch jam into m usic
appreciation thattheswelling ranks of the
U .S. ParkPolicesatup to takenotice.
They had been picking off lonecelebrants
I I day (itgotworseon the4 th) . Biafra,
tonepoint,gestured towards the
ashington Monum ent,noting how m uch it
looked likea KKKhood. And itdid,
loom ing overus with starkforbiddance,
helighted spirethatfigures prom inently
in any view of Am erikkka' s capitolcity.
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shewhacked m y neckrepeatedly with the

Texas,and both willreturn to San

edgeof herhand,likea karatechop,only

F rancisco

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theOn
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Broadway, brakes squealing

. Also on that
discovered thestash of
20 0 0 Millions of

billareCAUSE F OR ALARM from NYC and

Dead Cops badges when Ron and

theincom parableDI CKS.

roadperson Charucki rounded
thecorner.

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Theofficers m adea few m orethreats and
insults,then told m eto "getthefuck
outta this park".

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Thetourhas seen its ups and downs,
from obscurebeginnings in thecountry' s
southern and m idwestern regions,to a
m obileperform anceon a flatbed truckup
New York' s F ifth Avenue(thewrong way).
By thetim eM.D.C. joined thecaravan in
Madison on April23,theCRUCI F UCKS and
theR .A.R . crew had m any m isadventures
to relate. Porky and Gigifrom S .F . had
been arrested and held in La Grange
Texas fora week,theirlives threatened
repeatedly by thevicious (perhaps bored)
locallaw enforcem entthugs
. I t' s incidents
likethis which inspirelyrics like"Let' s
killthefucking pigs if they getin our
way/I t' llseta good exam pleforthe
children of today/I t' llkeep ' em outof
troubleshooting pigs afterschool/And
wasting cops willbetheheroes golden
rule"(CRUCI F UCKS)
. AtleastTexas
wasn' tallbad,as Austin was reported to
bea high pointof theearly segm entof M
thetour.
I n Madison Wisconsin a well-organized Hash M
Bash on thesteps of theStateCapitolsaw
a big crowd gethigh to thediverseM
sounds of Magic Slim and theTeardrops
(of Chicago) and M.D.C . Hundreds of M
joints rained down from a helicopter. I n
DetroittN

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July 4 found theD.C. Sm oke-I n organizers
.cam eoutto sneer
. I n Cleveland,the
eyeing thesky nervously . I trained on the

DI CKS werebrilliant. I n Am herstMass we

potparade
. No livebands played the

wereshutdown by theU Mass Student

flatbed down Pennsylvania Ave. to the

Council,using thecops,butthecrowd
WhiteHouse,forvarious reasons. Ours

surrounded Y.I .P . generators,and after

was theheavy threats advanced by all

m uch negotiation,them usic was backon.

kinds of law enforcem entagencies,to the

Conservativestudents paraded on the

effectthatlivem usic m eantviolent

fringewith theAm erican flag . Though the

intervention. On theF ourth of July,D.C .

Yippies arepoorly organized and fight

stood forDirectConfrontation
. Theissue

am ongstthem selves m ostof thetim e,they

wasn' tworth going to jailfor
. Backatthe

do m anageto stirup lots of struggle,and

Lincoln Mem orial,things wentfrom soggy

occassionally throw hugefreeparties that

to soaked as R
.A.R . stubbornly stuckto
scheduele,

braving

rainstorm s

that*l
laul'i
tem porarily stopped theWayneNewton tax

t,
funded patriotic extravaganza taking place
in theshadow of theMonum ent
. "Rain on
Wayne"was therallying cry of the
afternoon

am ong

m em bers

of

the1 UW
"undesirableelem ent". Culturalfriction

~
was assured by thecloseproxim ity of the
1 5H~~Q
two groups of revelers
; thepigs only m ade
two groups of revelers
; thepigs only m ade
itworse
. I was oneof m any subjected to
verbaland physicalharrassm entby the
U .S . ParkPolice. I was approached by a
strange,heavily builtin shorts,sunburn,
and Halloween m asklooking forreefer
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LJUBLJANA
Well,let' s begin with som eboring dull
data. I tallstarted herein late' 77when
thefirstpunkrock(and I do m ean "rock")
band,PANKRI TI ,played live. PANKRI TI
m eans "bastards". They arestillin action,
have2 LPs out. Thelyrics aregood,but
them usic is m uch too "norm alrock".
Sure,influences cam efrom England and
Am erica' s "m entally retarded brothers"the
RAMONES,and then. . .blah,blah,
blah . . .you know whathappened. Atthat
tim e,weare
talking abouta triangleof 3
cities:Ljubljana,Rijeka,and Zagreb. They
liein thewestern partof thecountry,1 20
kilom eters from each other. Butthere
weren' tm any bands;onein Zagrebcalled
PRLJAVO KAZALI STE (Dirty Theater),and
a few in theother2 cities. Therewas
PARAF and TERMI TI from Rijeka,both
im portantin term s of thescene' s
developm ent. P .K. soon turned com m ercial,
and today m ostof theZagrebbands area
pileof crap,although therearea few
non-com m ercialones . F rom 78-80 things,
um m ,progressed. Wegotsom enew
bands
:92(the
policetelephonenum ber),
who later becam epopish . Therewas
BULDOGI (Bulldogs),standard punkwith
naivelyrics,butthey' venotbeen heard
from in a year. BERLI NSKI ZI D(Berlin
Wall) arequitea weird band,very
innovative. They wentthrough m any
personnelchanges,and finally brokeup.
LUBLANSKI PSI (Lublana Dogs) areslower
punk,butoneof them ostpopularbands
around in ' 81 . I n ' 79 also,thescenein
Belgrade
livened up too. Thatwillbe
covered in a seperatearticlelater.
thecurrentscene. n juJana ere
aresom e
new bands.
OTROCI SOCI ALI ZMA
(Kids Of Socialism ),VI A OF ENZI VA are
both sortof post-punkish,and thelyrics
of O
.S . arereally intelligent. CAO PI CKE
(HiCunts) area very originalband,
charachterized by shortsongs,and two
basses (no guitar) . O!KULTarethe
fastestband around now,and theirlyrics
arevery clostto workers' reality . There
area bunch of hardcorebands now in
Belgrade,
and as I said earlier,we' llcover
that seperatel .
Abouttherecords here. There' s notm uc
interesting . Only a few punkrecords were
released . Majorlabels don' twantto deal
m uch with punk,and independents have
problem s . PANKRI TI has two 1 2"records,
PARAF has 2,and thereare2 com pilations
out,as wellas a few Belgradeband
releases . Hard to getim ports. F ew foreign
bands com ethrough heretoo . Wesaw
DI SCHARGE in ' 82 though. Becauseof a
lackof suitablevenues,weonly haveone
ortwo good shows herea m onth . As for
zines,therearen' tm any . Mostare1 0 -20
pages of xeroxes . As to them edia; the
press basically ignores punkbands,but
wehavea progressiveradio station here
in Ljcalled Radio Studentthatcovers the
alternativem usic scenefrom it' s
beginnings. They play m ostly English
stuff . I f any of yououttherewould be
willing to send records orcassettes,they
could beplayed here. Sincem ostof what
they play has to beboughtby individuals,
wedon' tgetto hearm uch U .S . hardcore.
They play theMaxim um Rock' N' Roll
com pilation and theF .U.' s "KillF or/

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Christ"EP . Theonly really wellknown

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m ustalso m ention

them edia' s
. .,
F LAG,
and F LI PPER . Thesm allerU.S
. /interpretation of punk
. Theirpictureof it
therewas a "
hardcorebands areknown justto a sm aller

is ugly. Unfortunately,nazi
contingentof punks who arereally /punk"affairabout2 years ago
. Som e
interested in theU.S . scene
. So help us /dum bpunks thoughtitwould begreatto
out. My address is attheend of this

m akesom eracistnazim anifesto,etc . But

re' rt.

thepolicefound outaboutit,m adea big

search,

etc .

About1 2 peoplewere
involved,butonly 2 werearrested,but
0
00
~weren' tin jaillong . So them edia painted
this pictureof punkbeing racistand
totalitarian . Becauseof this generalization,
punks areviewed as "scum of theearth".
Nowadays thesituation is a bitbetter. I n
0
myopinion, one big problemist hat punx
aren't unit edandI haven't not icedmany ,
const ruct ive ideasamong punksaround
here .The police ;I haven't hadany
confront at ionswit ht hemanddon't knowof
anypunkswhohave (ot hert hant hose
st upidnaz ipunks)
.Recent ly, anot her
g roupoft hemt houg ht it wascool t obe
"naz is" .A not herpolice searchfollowed.
But anyway, "t he onlyg oodcop. . . ." .H ey
don't t ake me t ooseriously, t here perhaps
is a nicey -m on' 1 0
t_
I n ' 81 ,thescene
"decentralized". Som e
ood
bands form ed in thetowns around Lj.
KUZLE (Bitches) and SUND(Scum ) in
I drija,60 km from Lj
. Then,I NDUSTBAG
(untranslatable) and STEKLI NA
(Rabies) in'
Metlika
. This is a really sm alltown 1 0 0 km 0
from Lj
. And finally,BACI LI (Germ s) from
Novo Mesto,near
Metlika. Allthesebands
werefasterand m oreenergetic than the
earlierbands
. Unfortunately,m ostof these,
nbroupt oo. ds`
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BERLI N SK I Z I D
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Anotherthing . Yugoslavia is a federal
state; m eaning itconsists of 6 republics'
and 2 autonom ous provinces
. Thereare3'
languages spoken heretoo. Every m ale/
m ustfor1 yearjoin thearm y as a training
process to defend ourcountry in caseof,
war. I haveto go this October. Really
nice. And this "training"is suppossed to'
behonorand duty. F ucking duty. This
deresses m e.
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I
oursceneis sm alland unorganized,
things keep im proving . Many bands
areputting outtapes,and today wehad
thefirstrealhardcoreband in Lj. play.
They' recalled STRES DRZAVNEGA
APARATA (Stress Of TheStateAparatus).
They sounded likeSEKUNDA from F inland
to m e,and a bitlikeDI SORDER,but
unfortunately I couldn' thearthelyrics.
Now,here' s som einform ation on Yugoslavia
itself
. Wearea socialistcountry with a
policy of non-alignm ent
. I tis im portantto
understand-Yugoslavia is notunderthe
controlof theUSSR ((liketheother
countries in theEastern Bloc)
. Yugoslavia
developed its own independentway after
WW1 1 . Butthereareproblem s here. We' re
suppossed to havea self-m anaging system
thatm eans everyonecan takepartin
decision-m aking
. Workers areto
self-m anagetheirenterprises,as are
m unicipalities. . Thesystem works on
paper,butthereality is different
. I thas
OK
. That' s itfornow. I f anyoneas any
questions,pleasewrite(if possible,please
add about$.50 forpostageforanswers.
Thepriceof postagehas risen dram atically
lately. Dario Cortese/Mrharjeva 7/61 21 0
L' .-etv' d Y .' sl. i
Punks herem ostly listen to English m usic,
becauseAm erican records costa lotm ore,
dueto im porttaxes. TheDEADKENNEDYS
arethem ostpopularU.S. band,butsom e
tapes havebeen circulating lately of
M.D
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.,MI NOR THREAT,"Boston Not
L.A.".
Ourm ain problem hereis lackof room to
practice, equipm ent, and difficulty in
organizing gigs dueto lackof independent
labels. Theroom forpracticing problem
m ay look trivial, but
for
us
itis tragic.
Say,how good can som eband becom e
withoutpracticing?Theequipm entproblem
is becausem ostpunks are1 6-1 8 years old,
and aredependenton theirparents. Need
I say m ore?Theliveshows area problem
dueto lackof enthusiasm in organizing
them , and thesound and equipm ent are
m orethan awful.
Belg rade hist ory.The most import ant from
'78-'81 are U RBA N A GU ERI LA (U rban
Guerrila), RA DN I C K A K O N TRO LA (Workers
C ont rol), RA DO ST EU RO PE(JoyO f
Europe), H U M A N I GEN O C I D(H umane
Genocide), TV M O RO N I (TV M orons).O nly
afewoft hese exist t oday, most having
brokenuporg one pop
.I n1981,
DI SC H A RGEcame here, andinspirednew
real hardcore bands.C I VI LI A N S were one
oft hem, but broke updue t oint ernal
differences.Theirsing ert henwent t o
PO SLEPRO C ESA (A ft erProcess), a
psychedelic/ punkband.The drummerand
guitaristsetup NEXROF I LI SA
(Necrophilia),who play a very fastkind
of heavy m etal/hardcore
. They havethe
bestpotentialof allthebands,butthey
too areplagued with practicing problem s.
ARHI USKA ZABAVA (ArchiveF un) was
am ong thefirstHC bands in Bg,buttheir
guitaristis in thearm y now. DI SI NF ECT
arealso HC,very loud,and without
practicespace. SOLUNSKI F RONTis one
band withoutthespaceproblem ,and are
thebestband around . They haveroom ,
equipm ent,and theconsequences are'
evident. Theclosestcom parison of them
is!!
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A real"classic
"
Denm arkis a relatively sm alland unknown
country. I t' s geographically surrounded by
a largebody of water,and Denm ark' s
closestneighborlies in thesouthern'
sector--Germ any . This m ay seem likea
som ewhatunlikely placeforthesuccessful
spawning of an underground punk
m ovem ent,butthinkagain. I thas a
thriving scene,with countless bands,
dating as farbackas 1 978.
Considering I was only on vacation over
thereforsix weeks,I twould notbe
appropriateform eto interpretthe
beginnings of Danish punk,and the
politics,so I ' llcontentm yself with just
reviewing them aterialI havebeen exposed
to.
"Paere Punk", acompilat ion t akenfrom a
seriesofshowsdone int he lat t erpart of
'78, document st he earliest bandsont he
scene : The LO ST K I DS, t he SO DS,
ELEK TRO C H O K , SLI M , K LI C H E, t he
BRA TS, DREA M PO LI C E, andN O K N O X .
Fromt hese 8g roupsonlyt he SO DS and
K LI C H Eremain, but anot her, DREA M
PO LI C E, isst ill kindofalive t hankst ot he
effort soft heirsing er, JohnnyC oncret e.
H e hasfundedt he release ofmost oft he
band'srecording s, "Demise/ Doomsday" 4 5,
andalive casset t e ent it led"C hrist mas
Chaos". Also,an independentlabel
released the"Johnny Concrete"EP,which
is DREAM POLI CE underhis m oniker. Most
of them aterialis pretty basic raw-edged
rockand rollliketheMC5.
KLI CHE has changed theirstylesincethe
early days. I cannotcom m entextensively
on it,becauseI was unableto getm y
hands on theirlatestLPs . Judging from
theonesong I heard on theradio,they
didn' tsound "sold out"orbad atall.
Theirtwo cuts on "PaerePunk"aretotally
cool.
TheSODS arethem ostincredibleband
thatI encountered in Denm ark. To say
they aredifferentfrom their' 77style
punkbeginnings isn' tsaying enough.
They' vechanged im m ensely,literally
splintering theirm usic,and arealtering
styles allthetim e. When I saw them they
sounded likea totally chaotic,yet
organized blend of noises thatleftthem
som ewhere
between F LI PPER
and the
RAI NCOATS . I could hardly believethe
SODS pulled off such a clashing cohesion
of m usic in oneset. They arecurrently
working on a third LP,butif you' rereally
into digging up obscurerecords,then look
for"Minutes To Go"and "UnderEn Sort
Sol". Thesearetheirfantastic first2
album s
. Also,if yousaw SORTSOL
touring in Am erica in 1 982,then you' ve
been treated to theSODS undertheirU.S .
The

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DESTRUCTI ON,ZERO POI NT,CI TYX,
theADS,theF RESHLYRI OTS,RAZOR
BLADES,

ANTI

SOCI ETY,

and
DI SRESPECTarejusta sm all
representation of thepresentstateof
Danish thrash-core. TheELECTRI C DEADS
areprobably them ostuniqueof thelot.
They havea girlscream ernam ed Bibi,
who with herhigh pitched,carries the
band very well. Theirdifferencethough,
lies in theirsound . I t' s incredibly fast
(no,notas fastas GANG GREEN),butit
does notreally wagean all-outguitar
attack. I t' s m orecontrolled,and sortof
pops along with them om entum of a bullet.
They have2 greatEPs on theirown
Electro Static Records,which willbe
availablethrough m y tine,F rontalAssault.
WAR

OF

DESTRUCTI ON

is

very
DI SCHARGE-influenced. . .heavy
guitar-bass-drum sound. Mostof their
songs arein Danish,butyoudon' thave
to understand thewords to havetheir
intensepowerannihilateyou. TheW.O .D.
cassette,"F ' Di",m ay also beavailable
through F A in a lim ited quantity. ZERO
POI NTwas reviewed in MRR #3.
"Experim entalpunk"was thelabeltheir1 0
song cassettewas given . Well,m aybea
few of thecuts aren' twhat-you' I d call
hardcoreor0 i,butforthem ostpart
ZERO POI NTis straightheads down
thrash . CI TYX is an interesting band
. On
their3 song singlethey havetwo fast
tracks on oneside,and an excellent
ska/reggaetuneon theother. This is
definately oneof m y favoritereleases from
Denm ark. CI TYX is also featured on an
EP with theADS (a benefitrecord for
squatters) . They have2 songs on here
thataregood and fast. Betterthough,is
thesong on theotherside,"Waiting F or
TheWar",which is a slow plodding
English Oistyled song thatsounds a lot
liketheDEF ECTS' "Survival".
TheF RESHLYRI OTS presenta variatio
to thenorm althrash sound in m uch th
sam eway ads New York' s F ALS
PROPHETS do. They also haveadde
keyboards to enhancetheirsound
. "Eno
Gay"is their22 song cassette
. RAZO
BLADES,ANTI SOCI ETY,an
DI SRESPECTareallgroups thatI can'
delveinto too m uch. Them aterialI hear
from them was lim ited to a coupleo
cassettecom pilations
. Here' s thebest
gotthough.

RAZOR BLADES wer

produced horribly,butthey have
a ver
harsh sound . Theirsongs areth
standouts on "Tom m orrow Belongs To Us'
cassette. ANTI SOCI ETYalso has a
overbearing rough sound dueto taus
production
. Som eof theirsongs rem ind m
f theF innish bands I ' veheard . Grea
song titles ("Hum an Robots"and "Maim e
To Death") to go along with equally grea
m usic
. This band deserves a lotof furthe
heckinin to.
~I seem s o .ean
easy way to
describea lotof theseEuropean bands,
butI can' tfind a betterexam ple
for
DI SRESPECT. Again,weakproduction
(which in generalflaws a great
deal of the
Danish stuff,as wellas allreleases from
around theworld) . Good songs though.
Danish punkis m ostly putouton
independent labels, likein theU.S. and
U.K. I rm gardz is clearly theleaderof the
DKI ndies. Theirreleases include: DREAM
POLI CE,CI TYX, BEF ORE, UCR,and
m ore. ReplikMuzikis also a steady
producer-of records,such as: SORT-
HVI DE LANDSKABER,and ENDOF YOUR
GERDEN . Decay Records haveputouta
coupleof greatcassettes that arehighly
recom m ended : "TrustANDOBEY,GODI S
LO VE and"
omorrow
:e ong soU s".
The formerfeat ures
RA TTU S(Finland),
FU N ERA L O RA TI O N (H olland), andW
.O .D.,
ANTI

SOCI ETY,

and
DI SRESPEC T(Denmark).
N oA arhusis
anot herindie producer
.Theirline includes
DREA M PO LI C Eand
DEFO RM ED.
N o
A arhusis
alsoa
fanz ine (sorry, it sin
Danish), but it swrit er, JohnnyC oncret e,
speaks andwrit esEng lish
.For more info,
writ e t ohimat N oA arhus,
Post box 3,
8381 Mundelstrup,Denm ark
. Another
fanzineto contactis YourGeneration
(also
in Danish) c/o
Steen Thom sen,Viggo
St uckenberg svej
25, 8210 A arhus,
Denmark. H e
sing sforZ ERO PO I N T, and
playsdrumsforW.O .D
.H e alsospeaks
andwrit esinEn
.lish.
I I
WAR OF DESTRUCTI ON
Sot hat 'ssix weeksoft he Danishscene . . .

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Shred, edit or, Front al A ssault
33A damsSt
Lit t let on M A 014 60
F RESHLYRI OTS
"Wakeup! Thecops aredown atthe
corner."Som eonepushes yououtof bed at
6 :30 AM. Down on thecornerare30
battledressed policem en,throwing into the
streetthebelongings of 8 kids who
squatted a houseforthelast5 m onths.
Hm m ,bettergettheothers. I run overto
ourneighbors,I LLEGAL 80 ,a punkband
from theprovinces thatm oved to
Copenhagen
. Of course,everybody is
asleep . Afterknocking for1 0 m inutes,a
guy with a m ohawkand leatherjacket
m arked "F ightSystem -F ightBack"opens
thedoor. Werun around thehouseand
find peoplesleeping in allsorts of
spontaneous m anners . "Wakeup! Thepigs
arehere!""Great,a riot!"Calm down,
and rem em beryourm ask(so youwon' tget
recognized on thecops ' riotfilm s' . I run
overto anothersquata blockaway. I t' s a
half blocklong and 5 stories high.
BI P-BI P-BI P .
.an alarm is ringing in the
backyard . Well,thoseold hippies really
know how to getorganized.
TU N N ELLO SN I N GEN
By thetim ewegetpeopletogether,the
houseis barely cleared and thefirstwall
has fallen
. So wescarethecops away with
rocks and burn thebulldozerthatdid the
dirty work. A lotof discussions. "Let' s
stop and havea strategy m eeting tonight."
"Hellno,let' s teach them a lesson-this is
a riot."Peopledressed in leatherjackets,
m asks,and helm ets,

startbuilding a
barricade. Rocks and concreteare
deposited in centralplaces . And thebattle
between 30 0 cops and an equalam ountof
squatters and punks goes on allday.
F lying rocks,riotsquad,plexiglass
shields,policedogs,burning barricades,
sm okebom bs . Thebattlegoes up and
down ;som etim es thepolicem ovebackout
of thestreet,som etim es thesquatters hide
in theirhouses
. F ortunately,ourhouseis
barricaded attheground floor.
A lotof talk
. "This shows them what
happens when they hassleus.""I feel
great,euphoric . "
"Stupid punk,rem em ber
today is a blast,tom orrow we' re
hom eless". "No,they' llnevercom eback
afterthis-thosechickens
."I try to retire
to m y room
. I tstinks of gasolineand
hashish,filled with people. "Policeand
m ilitary,beatup kids is ourjob,Police
and m ilitary,wedon' tgivea shitabout
you",a song by CI TY-X blares from the
speakers. Everyoneis shouting,high on
rioting and adrenalin .
.trying to relax over
a joint.
I n theevening itcalm s down . thepolice
haveleft. Wem ovethebarricades,and
putthebricks backinto thepavem ent. We
open ourillegalbar,som ebands
try to
play . There'
s a lotof drinking and
discussion . Who won?
"Youalready haveitbetterthan I did at
yourage".
Butwesay "F uckyou,I won' twaitform y
turn in oneof therichestsocieties in the
"' world . Youalready havea houseand a
garden,now I takem ine". With slogans
like:"Tom orrow is too late","Youhaven' t
gota chance-useit","A brickin theair
m eans m orethan a com m unistin the
parliam ent","No future-no exit". People
tookoverhouses and thestreets,creating
7
theirown lives.
3' Onelastjoke,and thejokeis always on
thepigs-allm uscle,no brains. When they
finally cam ewith 1 0 0 0 cops,water
-cannons,teargas,and big cranes to throw
30 of us outof Allotria,they entered
through thewallon thethird floor,just
undertheroof,becausethey feared a
rainstorm of concrete. Butno onewas
there. Wehad allleft,literally undertheir
feet. Wehad dug a 20 m eterlong tunnel
rightundertheroad they wereattacking
from . Wewentup through a cellaron the
oppositeside,and disappeared in cars. A
4 -1 1 1 otof fun . Them ayorand policenever
looked so stupid. Everyonewas laughing.
And wegota lotof supportfrom different
peoplewho liked theidea of squatting,but
hateviolenceand riots . So if youwant
a
A new breed squattes item ark
years ago,butsquatting is an old
tradition . Wehavea big area in thecenter
of Copenhagen,Christiania,where30 0 0
peoplehavebeen squatting for1 0 years.
Therearebars,restaurants,theaters,
m usic scenes,and thebiggestfreehash
m arketthis sideof I ndia. I thas been an
injection of nutrition and speed to the
punkscene. A lotof punks havebecom e
squatters,finding a placeto live,hang
out,play m usic. And a lotof squatters
havebecom epunks,infuencing thescene
away from m acho appeal,drug abuse,
profitand fashion . Thenew m ovem ent
started by trying to getatleastonefree
N
yout hcult ure house inC openhag en.A nd
aft erayearofmilit ant squat t ing and
riot s, we g ot aleg al house t hat noone can
t ake fromus.But t he movement g rew, and
people neededhousing , sowe st art ed
squat t ing ot herabandonedhomes, and300
people live inilleg al squat s.Thisisanew
approacht oasociet yinrecessionwit ha
lackofjobs, housing ,et c.Parent sand
g overnment t ell ust owait 10 yearsfora
possiblenew industrialboom ,takelower
+ wages forthesam ework,liveathom e.
Sum up. Onehouselost,butthey
squatted a new place. Two burnt
bulldozers. F orty wounded cops. Twelve
arrested squatters
. Broken bankwindows.
Riotin thecenterof Copenhagen for1 0
hours . I thinkit was a victory forthe
streetparliam ent.
Allotria,thesquatted houseI lived in,
was 1 0 0 years old . Thirty peoplelived
there,in a big com m une
. Their .ages
ranged from 1 4 -28,theaveragebeing
around 1 8 . Thehousewas squatted,or
liberated, for8 m onths
. Theground floor
was barricaded with concrete,iron,and
wood,and weclim bed in by ladder. The
windows werebarred with nets to prevent
teargas grenades from flying in. I n the
cellar was a rehearsalroom forseveral
groups. .REDLEADERS,OF F I CI AL PI GS.
Thebarwas opened atleast3 days a
week, with localfolkm usic,theater,
som etim es food,and,of course,a lotof
punk

bands . :CI TY-X,

SODS,
A.D.S .(AnotherDestructiveSystem ),
I LLEGAL 80 , W .O .D.(WarOn Destruction),
SOLDI ERS OF F ORTUNE(from Berlin)
. And
itwas free. Thepeopleliving therewerea
m ixtureof Skins,Punks,and Hippies,
with a lotof guests from allover
Denm ark,Sweden,Germ any,Holland,
I taly,etc. Wehad a great,spontaneous,
com m unication linewith allof Europe(let' s
seesom eyanks soon) by peoplevisiting
each otherallthetim e. Likewhen Ronald
Reagan wentto Berlin,a lotof people
wentto createa beautifulriotto welcom e
him . Thepeopleliving therecreated a lot
of valuablediscussions and bullshit
. Like,
"Who is rehearsing a m ixtureof
EI NSTURSE NEUBAUTand ANTI NOWHERE
LEAGUE at2 AM?","Did youbuy health
food again,wecan' tafford ityouold
hippie?","Why did youwritegraffition
thewall,I justspenta day painting?",
"You' regetting too hatefuland violent,
wiseup".
Butwealllived together,and learned
becausewehad thesam eaim :to createa
new counterculture,m akea new lifestyle
I n opposition to discos,burgers,m ilitary,
television junk,and apathy. Trying to
learn notto besexist,chauvanistic,stop
exploiting each other,giving up too m uch
dopeand alcohol. Creating a new m ilitant,
non-conform ist,anti-authoritarian attitde.
rebellion and counter-culture,
,step ahead of society. . .even
to crawlundertheirfeet.
OleSonderby Petersen
Thuresengade3-2 T
.V.
1 360 Kobenhavn C
Denm ark
MRR : How and when did theELECTRI C
DEADS start?
E .D. : Westarted a yearago. Wehad
anotherdrum m erand singerthen,butwe
couldn' tquiteagreeon whatkind of
hardcore/punkwewanted to play.
Therefore,wethrew them outand gotBibi
and Michaelinstead . thatwas in F eb. ' 82.
MRR : Whatgroups,if any,influenced
ELECTRI C DEADS?
E .D. : Atthattim eitwas m ostly English
stuff,butthen weheard "Jellybeans"LP,
and wethrew thetwo others out. They
werestillm oreinto theEnglish
stuff-DI SCHARGE and all.
MRR : Whatdo theELECTRI C DEADS songs
I
deal with? Areyoua politicalband?
E .D. : We' renot a politicalband, in the
sense,say, of CRASS or M.D.C. I ts
sim ply not possible
forus to agree
on one
certain

political

issue.

We' re

four
individuals with fourtotally different
viewpoints. We' rethebloody m iddleclass.
I n ourlyrics wetry to dealwith what' s
going on I nsideour,and otherpeople' s,
heads. Wehavea song called "0 .38",
which is aboutsitting in a station watching
trains
leave
forfar
away places
and
wishing youwereon oneof them ,but
knowing deep insideof youthatyou' llstay
whereyouare. And wehaveanotherone
called "BeforeYouHitTheStones",which
is aboutthetim eittakes when youleap
from the22nd floor' tilyouhitthestones.
And then,of course,wehavetheusual
shitsongs and lyrics.
MRR : How wereboth EPs recorded?
.D. : I twas suppossed to bea very low
budgetEP,butweended up with a very
largebilland a lousy sound dueto lackof
properrecording facilities. Thefirst
record was recorded overa P .A. system .
"Anti-Sex"was recorded in a studio and
has greatsound . Thereason wesay low
budgetis becausewedon' t haveany
record com pany backing us to pay our
expenses . Wehaveto pay everything
urselves. I t' s greatto beourown record'
com pany,butatthesam etim eit' s hard
for us notto beableto releasem ore
singles sincewehavem aterialfor2-3 LPs.
itwould begreatif a sm allcom pany would
eleasesom ething forus.
MRR :

What' s

it

like

being

a
"hardcore/punk"band in Denm ark?
E.D
. : Wedon' t m ikeany m oney atall.
Quitetheopposite,in fact. I t' s thesam e
orany hardcoreband here. I t' s totally
im possibleforus to liveoff ourm usic.
MRR
: Whatbands aregood in Denm ark?
E.D. : There' s a punkband called CI TYX,
who' s oneof thebestwethink. There' s a
lotof bands,butnotallof them aregood.
i
Ifvot iog changed anyt hing,
they'd make it illegal.
DI G' S U.K. REPORT
Hello gang,F irstthing to reportis that
wehavejusthad a GeneralElection here
in theU.K.,which has seen the
inherently m asochistic British public elect
Mrs. Thatcher' s ConservativeParty fora
second term of office. I say "m asochistic"
becausein spiteof record levels of
unem ploym entcreated by thepreceding
Tory (anotherword forConservative)
governm ent,as wellas' thevirtual
dism antling of theGovernm ent-provided
Health Serviceand otherSocialServices,
shehas actually been returned to power
with an increased m ajority overallthe
otherpo ital ic l

parties com bined . This

m eans thatitwillbeeven easierforherto
im plem entherright-wing policies,
including turning Britain into a launch-pad
foram erican cruisem issiles,and the
furthereradication of theWelfareState
(dole,pensions,etc .) . This election also
saw theeclipseof theLabourParty
(so-called "Socialist"party) dueto the
considerableNationalistic fervor generated
by theF alklands Warlastyear,which still
pervades thewholepoliticalatm osphere
here. TheLabourParty did howeverhold
onto its powerin theNorthern industrial
cities,which areits traditional
strongholds. I n addition,this election saw
theriseof theLiberal/SocialistDem ocrat
Alliance(left-of-centreparty) which did
extrem ely wellin term s of thepopluarvote
(i.e. thetotalnum berof votes castforit
was only slightly less than fortheLabour
Party) yetthis was notreflected in term s
of
representation in theHouseof com m ons
becausetheBritish "first-past-the-post"
electoralsystem (as opposed to the'
"proport ional represent at ion" syst em
adopt edinmanyot hercount ries)makesit
ext remelydifficult foranyup-and-coming
party

to

break

the
"Labour-Northern/I ndustrial" and "Tory-
Sout hern/ Rural" areast rang leholds.
A nyway, rat hert hanbore you all wit hany
more polit ical bulshit , I 'll g et backt ot he
U .K
.punkscene byreviewing ag ig at
Leeds,

4 th

Juneat

which

m any
up-and-com ing bands played . . .
Atthis pointin theproceedings therewas
a delay as am ps etc. werechanged in
preparation forthe2 "headliners"
. A
2-piececalled BLASPHEMYdid a 5 m inute
diatribebeforeANTI SECTcam eon
. I know
I seem to m ention ANTI SECTin every
reportI send,butthey area truly
awesom e/bonechilling band,atlastin the
"live"situation
. Theirsetnow contains 3
slowersongs which arem usically
uninspiring butcontain very im portant,
caring politicallyrics
; itis when they
decideto letrip with theirthrashiersongs
thatthepaintreally starts to blisterfrom
thewalls though,and pandem onium erupts
in thecrowd . I m agineDI SCHARGE m eet
F LUX in a wind-tunnel,theforthcom eing
1 2"should bea scorcher. F inally F LUX
them selves tookthestage. Starting with
thenow-fam iliar"New Sm ell"leading into
"TubeDisasters",they blazed thrum ostof
theirLP including thebrilliant"Take
Heed" and even threw in a coupleof
unrealeased new songs too
. As everwith
F LUX,itis ideas
and opinions they project
thatis of m ost
im portanceto them . The
uncom prom ising natureof theirlyrics and
theirplethora of anti-war/anti-vivisection
banners m eans thatno onein theaudience
can escapebeing confronted with the
brutal

realities

of

war/anim al
experim entation.
F inally in this report,I ' d liketo m ention
thatKalv and m yself arein theprocess of
getiting m aterialtogetherfora new U.K.
zinealong thelines of MRR,which will
hopefully havenationwidedestribution
here
. As usual,weneed contributers in
orderto m akeita success,so pleasesend
scenereports/gig reviews/tapes etc . for
review

to :

DI G/4 2

Hazelwood
Road/Nottingham /NG7

SLB/England and
we' llgetbackto you. Thanx.
Allthebestfrom Dig .
Band news: D.I .R .T. havesplit-rum ours
say they m ay bejoining up with POLEMI C
to do
som e"live"workand possibly a
record. Jon (drum m er) with
RUDI MENTARYPENThas been kicked out-a
lotof m ystery as to what' s happening with
them . BADBRAI NS arein theU.K.,
F ARTZ EP has finally been released here
("BecauseThis F uckin' World Stinks") and
has gonestraightinto thenationwidepunk
chartatno. 1 0 ,itcould betypicalUK
obnoxious punks loveof dated "shock"
titles butgenerally,I thinkm any
punks/peopleherearefinally interested
and arestarting to giveU.S . punks/bands
thechance.
Dig/l/and 4 others should bedoing a
m axi-zinewith a "m uch largerthan usual
in theUK"circulation,if anyonein the
States would liketo do a scenereport
(photos/flyers help a lot) /an articleof
som esort/orsend anything to bereviewed
then send to m e. Kalv/4 8 Chetwynd Rd ./
Chilwell/Nottingham /N99-5GDEngland . F or
possibleinclusion,m akecontact! !
NTHRAX
r
ese ayswocanenmelodyand
emot iont ot heirsong swit hpowerand
presence
.N ext were TWO M I N U TES O F
H A TE--anot herlocal band, ag ainwit h
female sing er, whost ruckavisually
st riking pose, looking like somet hing out
oft he long lament edSLI TS
.M usicallyalso
t hey were reminiscent oft he SLI TS,
playing mainlybass-heavysong s(t he
g uit arist , GU N C LU Bsing erlookalike,
seemed very
amat eruish).Tit lesofsong s
were mainlyt odo, wit hsex--"Lesbian
Lust ", et c.H ig hlyorig inal st ufft hese days
wheneveryt hing isant i-t his, ant i-t hat .
C H U M BA WA M BA playednext , anot herlocal
band, andfeat uredonC RA SS' Bullshit
Det ect or2LP.A phidA mebix described
t hese inM RR#5 soI won't g oint odet ail,
suffice t osayt heirpunkandt heat rical
st ag e mixt ure wasext remelyeffect ive.
U t ilising suchpropsasempt yT
.V set s
t heymade some chiling st at ement s.Great
band.N ext a bandplayedwhichfeat ured
t he well-lovedA N DY T ong uit ar;aft era
few songs ANDYThim self read a few a confusing people with their
poem s. TheI NSTI GATORS [played next
.
I
attitudes/everyone' s raving aboutwhata
This band looked incredibly young yet a brilliantliveband they
are
though. THE
they play really well. Theirinfluenceis
obviously F LUX,and to m y m ind they' re
trying too hard to beF LUX m arkI I ,to
thedetrim entof finding thierown
identity. Given tim e,theI NSTI GATORS
could develop into a fineband.
*1 .50 to getin was am azingly cheap,
considering that6 or7good bands were
dueto perform ,butit
was a D.I .Y. gig
organized by F LUX OF PUNKI NDI ANS who
wereheadlining,so it' s only naturalthat
itshould bevalueform oney
. F irston
wereI CON A
.D.,a localband,featuring a
fem alesinger. Thesereally im pressed m ea
lot,with powerful,punchy m elodic songs
with seem ingly political-typelyrics;
definately oneof a rarebreed of band
i~
r
The scene is growingmore these days,
r
with bands likeVI KI NGS,LARM,STANX,~~tl~~EfJ
KNAX

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CONTROL,

HAGAR

THE

WOMB,
SOLVENT-ABUSE,I CONS OF F I LTH,
D-F EKT,LOSTCHERRI ES,NAKED,and
loads,loads m ore-especially oneband Dig
m enyioned called ANTI SECT. I reckon this
band willbem ega-enorm ous-they have
intelligentlyrics,brilliant,well
thought-outhard,fastm usic,an aim .
They arevery serious in theirviews and
don' tjustsitbackand m outh italloff.
They careand arereally great,friendly
people. Moreand m ore,peoplearegetting
to know of thesebands,and they' llsoon
beup with them orewell-known ones.
Wedon' thavem any hardcorebands over
here-VI OLENTUPRI SI NG,ASYLUM,and a
few m ore. Allthesebands arevery active
and basically good exam ples of realpunk.
H abi.A N D
DearMRR,
r
I ' m a guy from Holland who likes
/U.S
. bands a lot(MDC,SS DECONTROL,
F .U.' S,GANG GREEN,F REEZE,etc .).
Anyway,I read in MRR #5 aboutDutch
/hardcore. WhatTony wrotewas good,but
heleftoutsom eof thebetterthrashers .
KRONDSTADT

UPRI SI NG,
AMEBI X,ANTHRAX,and SYSTEM,who
arequiteestablished now with singles out.
Butthere' s a hellof a lotof bands who
arereally greatwho haven' tm adethat
stageyet,bands likeU.K. ANARCHI STS
and POLI TI CAL ASYLUM from Scotland,V
bPeace. MickSlaughter/Obituary Zine/
PSYCHO

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people-arranging gigs foreach other,etc.
Many of thebands in thearticlearenow
broken up-PistacheB.V .,NI TWI TZ,
GOSPELF UCKERS,TRASHBAGS,and the
No F utureRecord shop (too bad)! I ts no
fun to go to gigs in Am sterdam causeof
theskins and som epunks wl' o beatyou
when youslam . I tisn' tso bad in the
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ROME
Sorry,butI taly isn' tjustgreatm asses of
pjzza and spaghetti
. Even wehavea
"scene". I t' s fairly large,and Werearen' t
too m any fashionable/violentjerks. Wealso
getourshareof shitfrom people
expecting punx to beas them edia
portrays them . Gigs by good bands aren' t
thatcom m on,buttherearea coupleof
clubs. Som ereally good bands arearound
though . NABAT,from Bologna,play Oi,
and arefun. SHOTGUN SOLUTI ON are
0 o,and haveopened forboth theDK' s
and DI SCHARGE . Butthebestis I
REF USE I T,from F lorence. They play
intense,upsetting m usic (sortof likethe
EATPUPPETS),and should beon Master
TapeVol. 2. Som edecentfanzines areput
outtoo
. Anyway,bands com eplay here.
Ciao.
CherylBrown

Alberto-VO 5-I acono

Via Crati,1 5

ViaSan Godenzo
00199 Roma, I t aly

00189 Roma,
I t aly
' P .S.

Here' s a livegig review-March

26-REVENGES, BLOODYRI OT,PETRI LI O,
KLAXON,NI GHTSEEKERS,SHOTGUN
SOLUTI ON,BRATS,F UN,NABAT. This
as thefirstgig of it' s typesince' 77-
' 78. . .9 I talian punkand Oibands foronly
about $1 .50 . Good deal,m ostly good
m usic,and a pretty bad sound system . A
m ediocreband,with a fem alesinger,
started
. Thecrowd wasn' tenthused,but
they had a few good tunes . Nextwere
BLOODYRI OT,a HC band singing against
heroin and foranarchy in I taly. Nothing
outof theordinary here,butthey did
seem to betrying to liveup to theirnam e.
PETRI LI O was theonly band today that
weren' tsporting theoverused black
leather/stud look
. They werevery good,
with shortsongs and an originalsound.
KLAXON followed,and thecrowd liked
theirpost-punksound . AnotherHC band,
theNI GHTSEEKERS played fastsongs and
therewas alotof slam m ing . SHOTGUN
SOLUTI ON area good band,butdidn' t
proveittonight. Afteronesong,the
singercuthis fingerbadly,and then for
som efucked up reason,theguitaristgot
outa fireextinguisherand sprayed iton
thecrowd,forcing everyoneto thebackof
thebuilding oroutside. Butas soon as
thefog had cleared away,everyonecam e
running backform ore. BRATS had
troublewith theiram ps,and then cam e
F UN,who havea m ixtureof
ska/Oi/reggae,butthey sounded as if
theirentiresetwas onelong song with a
lotof soccercheers in them iddle
. Only
thesoccerballs werem issing. Theshow
ended with NABAT,who weregreat. The
band and crowd alikewerefullof energy,
with a lotof slam m ing and pogoing,and
justabouteveryonesinging along with
theirsinger,Steno. Thehigh pointof the
gig.

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ism s
Shi

Rb cavooert o
ViaS
.I ppolit oN .8
50051 C ast el Florent ino
Firenz ';I t aly
STA ZI O NE

.
OtherI talian bands we' veheard about
PU N K S A GA I N ST SO U N DS(PSA )
RA WPO WER :Bolog na
BRA C C I O : Torino
C H ELSEA H O TEL

O SSESSI O N E

U PSET N O I SE
I M PA C T
WA RFA RE
TO X I C A L
C H EETA H C H RO M EM O TH ERFU C K ER
I REF USE I T
R .A .F .PU N K
4 11"g =
I RA H :Bolog na
SOTTOCULTURA:Bolog
KOLLETTI VO :Torino
BACTERI A
A N N A FA
lHere' s som einfo on I talian punkbands
sentto us by
Schiavo Roberto,who
istributes m any I talian records and tapes.
ROUGH :from Torino,in thenorthwest.
hey form ed in 1 981 ,and arean 0 iband.
They
areon Meccano Records.
rth. They also form ed in ' 81 ,and play
hardcore
. TheirEP is on Peggio Records.
NABAT
:from Bologna,in thenortheast.
I
They are skinheads, andst art edin'79.
They are onC .A .S .Records.
61O X I N A :from

Rimini,

also

in

t he
nort heast
.St art edin'81, t heyplayslow
hardcore . They appear on
t he "Skins&
i
ARRM
:m adein Com o,north I taly,near
witzerland. They sound likeUKhardcore.
RAPPRESAGLI A:from
Milan,in thenorth.
They sound like
HUSKER-DU and BLACK
orthwestI taly. F orm ed in 1 980 ,they are
am ong thebestI talian bands
. Thesound
is hardcore,and
they arewell-liked.
WRETCHED:from Milano,in thenorth.
i
Theysoundalot like DI SC H A RGE.
STA Z I O N ESU I C I DA :from
Florence inmid ,
I taly
. F orm ed in ' 81 ,and a favoriteof
I talian punks: .
1 1 ' lit
FLO R E NCE HC!SCHI A VO O NLE FT
*F lair. 04
4 wi:0C C R
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.T. South Np.an oMof th f. .o,!t. loam ,,
. I w Am wtun com p...aOutwant
to lay off Anrru.n ...ken ~n wdw to 6 .. .dranuP of bww wag
. ratty a&0 .d
I Elwtrom ctworkw,m South Nonaw.
lond
1 /1 0 of tMU
.S taw,South No,.. alto
lorh,dtttrtk.t
.y.
A N N I H I LA TE SEX RO LES
SURVEYF OR WOMEN-POLL RESULTS
com piled by Ruth S,Erikka,Lynn,and Anna
(Quot e fromalet t er.
"Thissong isforyou bit ches.You should

all be lying downwit hyourleg sopen."

--FI FTH C O LU M N , O nBroadway, Jan.8
"Thisisasong about g et t ing pussy
."
%
--BLA C K FLA G, O nBroadway, Dec
.19
\

"Just acouple ofcrude remarks,

rig ht ? A ndwomenhave more oppressive
\ t hing st odeal wit ht hananast yline here
andt here, rig ht ?
But wait aminut e . I fwhat punk
\ musicians say when
t hey're performing
\ doesn't count , t henwhat does?
Thinkhowlarg e musicloomsin
5
C alifornia'spunkcult ure comparedt o
%elsewhere .I nN ewYork, punksalsodo
communit yorg aniz ing ;inEng land, t heir
\ polit ical act ivit yrang esupt he scale t o
%quit e larg e demonst rat ions.But here, by
\ andlarg e, onst ag e behaviorformsamajor
part ofourst at ement t ot he world
.A part
\ formour media, it I S what we have t o
say!
Whichmig ht be okay, except t hat
%male (i.e
., most )punkbandshere seemt o
\ have avag ue andoft enflawedpolit icst hat
doesnot represent t he supposedradicalism
\ ofourcult ure .Thoug ht here are many
st rong polit ical song s, t hese rarelyg o
%beyondt he set t hemesofant idraft ,
\ ant inuke, andant iReag an--wit hC O DEO F
%H O N O R, M DC , andFA LSEPRO PH ETS
\ being among t he fewwelcome except ions.
%A ndI cant hinkofnoot hersong apart
\ formt he C O DE's"What Price WouldYou
%
Pay?" whose lyrics
explicit ly denounce
\ sexism.
Sowe have ont he one handa'
\ widespread failure t oconfront issuesof
sex equality,and on theother a low
\tendency by som em aleperform ers to use
%thestageto trash wom en.
\

I f westopped buying tickets to shows

bybandst hat g reet uswit hinsult s,
%t here'dbe a big reduct ionint heir
\ audiences. But I haven't seen
any
%part icularreact ion
.H owcome? Dowe fear
\ ourpunkcult ure isso weakt hat we have
%t orelyonswag g ering , mindlessmale
\ bravado? A re we solaz yt hat inst eadof
%working out ourownpolit ical st andards
%we'll fall
back
on akind ofH ell'sA ng els
\ ideolog y? O risit just t hat womenhaven't
%yet facedt he needt o st at e ourbeliefsand
\
make our demands wit hin
ourownscene?
%

What ever

t he

reason

forour
\ sit uat ion-- wit hliberat ionofwomenbeing
%not just alow priorit ybut pract ically
\ unheard
ofwit hint he confinesof
\ punk--one t hing isclear.I fwomencan't
k, funct ioninpunkinrolest hat are not
%deg raded,
t henpunkcult ure deservest o
\ fail
And itwillfailin any caseif punks,
male andfemale, leave ourimpulsesof
rebellionag ainst societ y
onjust t his
%level--t he

level

of

impulsive
rebellion--inst ead offorg ing aset of
politicalideas thatbegin,instead of end,
4 with resistanceto thebom b,thedrat,
\and the
president.
\

Thetim eis pastforbeing em otional-

cult ural rebelswit hout a cause .We
need t o
\ creat e a
polit icst hat count ersourcorrupt
societ y
wit h aprog ram t oorg aniz e around
\ and
t ost rug g le for.We shouldremember
%t he uproarinEng landlast yearwhent he
\ H ouse of
C ommonsat t empt ed t ohalt t he
promot ion
anddist ribut ionofC RA SS's
"H owDoes I t Feel (t o be t he M ot herof
\ 1000 Dead)?''
The g overnment failedt o
stop it--because
thepunks wereorganized
to gettheirm essageacross. Sure,itto as
work,and we' rebusy,m any of us,m aking
ourown contributions--perform ing in m ixed
orfem alebands,working in m edia,
production, etc
.
And som e
of us stilltake
tim eforsitting on theedgeof thestage
watching m aleperform ers bleatou
sentim ents better suited to Marines in a
foxhole. Becauseafterall,it' s theaction.
I guess it depends on what you think
is at stake. I f youridea is to tag along
fortheride,youm ightas wellsitback
and enjoy it. Butif youhad a notion that
weweresupposed to livewhatwe
believed,this is whereto start.
I f wom en wantto changetheway we
gettreated in punk,wewillhaveto push
fora politics m oresharp, m oreresolved,
m oreradical, than whatwehavenow. And
to do that,wem uststartby taking up,
within ourown culture,a strong and
independent stance: a politicalstance."
* ***************
I N I SSUE NUMBER F OUR WE PRESENTED
A QUESTI ONAI RE WHI CH I S ABOUT
WOMEN,BUTNOTNECESSARI LYONLY
F OR WOMEN. THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN
OVERWHELMI NG,WHI CH HAS LEADUS TO
BELI EVE THATTHI S I S AN I MPORTANT
ANDTI MELYTOPI C. THE PRESENTATI ON
OF THE RESPONSE TO THI S SURVEYI S
NOTONLYF OR WOMEN,PUNKWOMEN,
OR "THE SCENE". I TI S A DI SCUSSI ON
OF I SSUES THATAF F ECTWOMEN,MEN,
ANDRELATI ONSHI PS
; SOME OF THESE
BEI NG DEF ENSI VENESS, PEER PRESSURE,
CONDI TI ONI NG,AGE,VI CTI MI ZATI ON,
RESPONSI BI LI TY, ANDMANYMORE
UNDERLYI NG EMOTI ONS WHI CH WE
COULDN' TPOSSI BLYADDRESS F OR LACK
OF SPACE . WE WI LL PRESENTTHE MAJOR
TOPI CS THATCAME UP I N THE
RESPONSES
THATWE RECEI VED
I LLUSTRATEDWI TH I NDI VI DUAL QUOTES
F ROM THE LETTERS WE RECEI VED. THI S
I S
AVERY
PERSONAL SUBJECT,WE HOPE
TO KEEP I TPERSONAL.
SO M E

WO M EN

C RI TI SI Z ED

TH E
QU ESTI O N A I RE I TSELF FO RBEI N G
I N SU FFI C I EN T FO RTH ESU BJEC T A T
H A N D.WEA REN O T PRI N TI N GTH E
QU ESTI O N A I REBEC A U SE TH ERESPO N SES
A S A WH O LEWEN T BEYO N DTH E
QU ESTI O N S.
*
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Languageis perhaps thefirstthing
to revealtheeffects of theinfluences
around ; thelanguagein yoursurvey
prom pted
closeexam ination--thedefinition
of "im age" is: an im itation,copy. A
drawn, paint ed, et c., especiallyasat ue.
odernsociet yfeedsusaconst ant flowof
mag esoft he worldandourselves.These
imag esreaffirmone anot hercreat ing a
t ot alit ywit hit sownint ernal log ic.Eachis
seeming lydist inct fromt he ot her, int hat
ch
has its own requirem ents; dress,
language,occupation,politics,to nam ea
few. By choosing an im agewebecom e
nothing m orethan a reflection of theim age
presented
. A collection of socialform s well
practiced,even to ourselves. I tseem s not
only haveyou boughtinto this form of
bankruptcy, butyou,assum eother(all?)
m . ..

.
me, myse finclued, don't want
buyin.we don't everwant societ y
mediat e inself-examinat ion.
OKclass! Now thatyouhaveyour
dictionaries open to "im age"
; flip backto
"C"forcontentand read . Happy with
whatonehas oris; notdesiring som ething
m oreordifferent,satisfied
. I tsounds like
youthinkthis is an idealstate
; that
withoutitwear4 "lacking". Would you
haveus allrem ain in such a stagnate
existence?Thewilling victim s of them any
splendors of dom ination?And why choose
m aledom ination in particular?I t' s so trite,
and wehaveso m any other"m asters"and
"m istresses"m eting outourdaily ration of
"bondage" and "discipline"to choosefrom .
How can som ething called a "scene"
beworth m aintaining?Doesn' tthatword
revealthetheatrecreated?Wherethenext
bestthing to being "on-stage"is "being
back-stage"?
Pressureto behavein any specific
m annerdoesn' toccurwithoutlike
pressure,and only when acceptanceis
desired . Requirem ents m ustbefilled,and
im agem aintained.
Allin allI found your
survey banal,
patronizing,

superficial--an exercisein
pseudodialogue
.

Your

thinly

veiled
prom otion of som e
exem plary
fem ale-punk-lifestyleyou
seem to feel
quintessential,is no m orethan a styleof
pseudolife,and upholds everything thatis
represent at ion ofapersonort hing
;

not alive
."
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EVEN TH O U GH WEREC EI VEDTH ESE

bandmembersexpect edmore t hanjust t oA LTH O U GH TH ESEWO M EN FELT TH A T

C RI TI C I SM S O F TH EU SEO F TH ETERM

be int erviewed
.I t houg ht it wasst upidEVERYO N EH A S BEEN BRA I N WA SH EDTO
"SELF I M A GE" A LO T O F PEO PLE TA LK

t hat t heyjust
aut omat ically assumedt hat SO M EEX TEN T, M A N Y FELT TH EY WERE
A BO U T SELF I M A GEA N DH O WTH EI R

because I 'mawoman
.But overall, I 've A BLETO U N LEA RN O RRELEA SE
"SELF I M A GE" I S DETERM I N EDBY TH E

foundt he at t it ude very casual and TH EM SELVES - SO TO SPEA K - FRO M

RO LES A N DI DEO LO GY A N DC O N DI TI O N S

recept ive t owardsa"female fanz ine

H S

O I N
O F SO C I ETY A S A WH O LE .I N A DDI TI O N ,

edit or" ."*

A LOT OF THE EXCERPTS TO F OLLOW

am very nappy witm y seI m age.

TA LK A BO U T REJEC TI O N O F TH ESE

"I oft en(always?)felt insecure, M y

cont ent ment isdue obeing accept edas
C O N D TI N S RE
p
DO N '

unconfident andunassert ive, but I 'mnot I

am byall my friends here .I t is also
#
* ~t

4 # t # # * # * * * * * * sure ift hisis due t o female

condit ioning because I like t he way I am."

I lave alwayseft insecure wit h my

orit it 'sjust me .

. There are no
self-imag e because I feel I am very

female
membersinany
hardcore
bandsin
different from
most women. I am not a

t he Det roit
area. (I know ofa
female
lesbian,
I love men, but I feel like I want

drummerinFLESH C O LU M N fromneary
to do m ore
than theusualthings,justlike

Windsor,Ontario)
. This really bothers m e
a lotof m en do. I feelm oreclosely related

,Maybeevery fem ale

is likem e,
supposing
t o
ment han women inmyt houg ht

someone else
has more g ut sort alent t o
do
pat t erns.I am not
a
very
frillyand

it ."
fem inineperson,and I identify with the
m oreintelligentof thepunkfem ales I
know. I am responsiblefortheway I am ,
butalso I thinksociety has broughtm eup
to repress m y desires in life
. I feelvery
unhappy and on thevergeof depressions
som etim es becauseof this. Wom en are
broughtup to hatethem selves . So they
hurtthem selves in a lotof ways
because
of this. Som etim es I thinkI should have
been
a m an, only becausetheway is
paved forthem
better. I havea few m ale
friends,now,finally, who arevery
pro-fem ale. I feelI ' m half m ale,half
fem ale. Best of both! I s that
androgynous?"
"I find thatin thesceneI usually
m ove
in that thereis stillan extraordinary
am ountof sexism considering thatwe
address so m any problem s . WheneverI try
to m akepeopleawarethatthey areacting
in an offensivem annerto m ebecauseI ' m a
fem aleitseem s that I receiveam entalpat
on thehead and a superiorsm irk. I do m y
bestto m akepeopleawarewithoutbeing
too aggressive
orangry butit' s very
difficult becauseI am angry. I don' tlike
being treated likeshit becauseI ' m fem ale."
"I also find thatI haveproblem s
being taken seriously on a business level
becauseI ' m fem ale
. I workwith an
organization

called

Youth

Culture
Product ions t hat isanon-profit
org aniz at iondedicat ed t omaking sure t hat
alt ernat ive musicst aysalive
because oft he
prople whoare int oit
.We t ryt opromot e
autonom y and creativity . I find that
wheneverI ' m trying to workwith bands
through this organization
thatI ' m either
dism issed as an airhead ora groupie
becauseof m y sex.
I feelthatsexism is a
prevalent
problem in oursociety and thatbecausewe
forthem ostpartworkwith a subculture
thatdeals with society in a way that
challenges thestatus quo and narrow
archaic m odes of thoughtthatthis should
beoneissuethatis addressed, butitnot.
I feel that instead of m aking progressions
in this
area weareregressing and I feel
thatoneof thereasons thatwehave
regressed is theem ergenceof hardcore
m usic."
"I was broughtup to explorem y
curiosity and thinkform yself. I tnever
occurred to m ethatm en and/orsociety
would
expectwom en to bevery different,
alm osttheopposite
of m en (i.e.,weak,
em otional,irrational),and expectcertain
behaviors, etc., . whiledenying us
therightto do a lotof things. I tsim ply
neveroccurred to m e
. TillI looked atthe
"realworld". I thoughtthat
everybody
could do as they pleased and even though
sinceI ' ve
com eto seethata lotof the
world is run on a differentbasis than
that,that' s how I live. I putoutm y own
zine(and am working on starting an
alternativenewsletterto try to wakeup
"O fcourse t here isabit ofsexual
oppressioninpunkmusicbecause punkis
expressing howyou feel about life andsex
isabig oppressioninourlivesand
cult ure
.Since t he majorit yofpunksare in
t heirt eensit isanevenbig g erhang -up.
O ursociet yput swayt oomuchemphasis
onsex andt he t eenandjust plain
sex---you aren't amanunt il you have
experiencedsex ;you can't be awomant ill
you have hadanorg asm
."
"I amreallyconfusedabout really
what I dobelieve in
.But , here'safew
point st hat all ofyou canunderst and,
blat ant ly
.25 M I LLI O N people
(adult s)int he U .S.are "funct ionally
illit erat e" (t hat 'sone out ofeveryfive),
and30 M I LLI O N are bordering illit erat es.
Wit ht hisinmindandt he mediawit hit 's
overt TomSelleck-fucks-t he-women
-
raw-and-hardat t it ude, it 'snowondert hat
womenare t reat edlike packsofpudding t o
be g obbledupat t he man'sdesire and
t hent ojust belchout what wasnot
want ed."
"Pressures to follow typicalfem ale
behavior--in straightland?Very m uch so
and I do as a m atterof econom ic survival.
I workwith thepublic and
m akem oretips
waitressing in a dress with straight
m ake-up on.
I n m y scene?I n an anarchist
society? Sarcasm aside, I personally choose
notto bearound peoplewho thinklike
that. I know m ales and fem ales in the
scenewho acceptthetraditionalroles
. I ' m
notsureif thebehavioris a conscious
decision forthsem en and wom en ornot,
butitusually m akes m efeel
ill.
"Grant edt hese successst oriesare
womenwhoeit hermade it luckywit h ag ood
commercial g immickorworkedt heirbuns
off.
I amcont ent wit hmysmall
cont ribut ion, mycreat ive out put being t he
fanz ine I put out
.I DO N O T feel
t hreat enedbymalesinanyway, anddo
not considermyselfafeminist .Sex has
not hing t odowit ht he wayI feel .I am
feminine cause I have t it sandat wat andI
canbring babiesint ot he world.I 'dmuch
rat her be neut er
.Wouldn't t hat ma- e 'TTT'a
t o T~easie~forall? 5
"M ost oft he t ime, I 'mcont ent wit h
myselfimag e ;however, int he past I had
beenrat herinsecure, ast he ot herlit t le
g irlsaroundme seemedsoeasilyt og lide
I nt ot he nat ural boy-craz y, passive,
feminine role .I have neverbeenboy
craz y, andpeople wouldaccuse me of
lat e-blooming , orjust being plaincold.
Thiswasnot t he case, as
I Tound
out lat er
.You see, my"Problem" wast hat
I love women, not men--andI wasn't a
"lat e bloomer" eit her, aseveryone
t houg ht .I just didn't realiz e where my
nat ural inclinat ionslay.I didn't discover
t hisunt il t he ag e ofsixt eeen.Thislat e
discoverywasmost lydue t ot he
st ereot yping ofg aywomen--i.e
., big , fat
bulldykeswit hslicked-backhairand
t at t oosont heirmeat yforearms.I didn't
associat e myselfwit ht hisment al pict ure ."
"What ist he st ereot ypical female
behavior? Tog oout all dressedup, t obe
ast at ue, t olookperfect , t ocombyour
haireveryminut e, flirt lookforand
I mpressg uys? Well, I ft hat 'swhat you're
g et t ing at , I don't feel anypressure ."
"I
am notsurewhat a stereotypical
punk- fem aleis. I sortof getthis im age
of a girlwith ratty hair,red lipstick,
sm acking gum ,wearing tightblackpants,
high heels,and sneering . F ortunately I
havenotseen anyonelikethis--oh wait,
m aybeI did when the"PUNX"wereon
CHI Ps,ha,ha! I don' tfeelpressureto
dress oractany certain way. Oneday I
m ay weartorn blackjeans,tucked into
com batboots,a torn sweater,lots of studs
and spikes and bem istaken forColin of
G.B.H. Ha! Thenextday I m ay weara
m iniand high-topped tennies. Thenext
day m aybea blacklacedress and high
heels. Punkform eis an outlet. I can say
and do whatI feelas long as I don' t
interferewith anyoneelse. I am justm e.
Takeitorleaveit. I feelno pressure.
Punkis som ething insideof m e,and itwill
always betherewhetherI am wearing m y
studded leatherjacketora bikini
."
I personally
try to avoid traditional
m aleand fem alestereotypes
. They' reso
dam ned

lim iting

on

the

individual' s

"I don' tfeelany pressureto dress or

personalit y
. I t hinkavoiding st ereot ypical

act like at ypical "female punk".I wear

behaviorissomet hing apersondecidest ot he same kindofclot hesasmost oft he
do
. I know it' s easy form eto retortto

guys do-usually Levi' s,t-shirt,com bat

aut omat ically inst illedfromchildhoodrole

boot s, leat herjacket (ifweat her permit sl,

models orst yle
.

chainsonce inawhile . Some ot her

g irls
Remember,
int he words ofC RA SS :

dresst hat way, but alot oft hemdon't

.I
"you t ookme and made
me aM A N by

g uesst hey're afraidt hey will lose t heir

m aking m estrong,thepowerof this

"fem inine"appeal. I really don' tcarehow

land/Youtooka wom an and taughther

they dress; I thinka lotof them would

she' s less/A slaveto thestrong,no m ore

liketo dress m oreliketheguys,but

than a guest/Youtaughtm eto love,find a

they' ve
been taughtthat"girls don' twear
m ateto take/A wom an to servebutyour

thosethings". I thinka lotof girls arein

them indless blobs of flesh in m y school),

loveis justrape."

itjustbecausetheirboyfriends are."
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"Yes,thereis definately sexualhappen to beboys to getittogether
oppression in punkm usic . Theguys
expecta rough,tough,leatherchick,
m acho im age,and thewom en areexpected
to be,
who knows what?As long as they' re
cool. Buttherearealways expectations . I
feelpressure,butI won' tadhereto it. 1
m e--alone."
8.7/ Top
unless youknow ' em already and if they' re
open-m inded! And also,I ' veneverseen or
heard aboutan all-girls HC punkband.
(Wedon' tneed m oreGO-GO' s crap!) How
abouta girlplaying guitarin a HC band
and notalways "thebass?"I was
surprised thatDEADLYREI GN had a girl
m em ber(A DRUMMER!) I hopem oregirls
startplaying m oreinstrum ents than the
"usualbass"ortheusualgirlsinger. And
I hopethereare(atleast) som e
open-m inded punkboys who' d accepta girl
as theguitaristordrum m erof a band
. I ' m
justwondering wherethey allare?!"
Girl/Beltorn
"Of coursethesceneis sexist. Every
sceneis sexist,generally
. Allonecan do
is liveas a personalexam ple
. I feel
PRESSURE to actin
a way that' s
constantly awareof negating these
stereotypes,
notthrough annihilating m ale
bullshitbehaviorbutthrough
behaving as
a sentientindividualwho' s not
wrapped up
in sexual/sexuality preoc
cupat ions.Tucson
isn' t really m uch of
a fashion scenefor
anyone
. I won' t wear short,shortskirts
ortightclothes and high heels because
they' reuncom fortableand im practical
."
"Somet imes I g et t he feeling t hat
some
femalesare just on t he scene
t obe
g roupies

for

t he

easily

accessible
m usicians
. I f youjusthang around
gawking ata band instead of listening,
enjoying and understanding them usic,
then you are
justplaying thestereotypical
"punkette"role
. I ' m notsaying don' t
socializeand havea good
tim ebutit' s
im portantto bem orethan a pretty face
and a good
fuck. I wouldn' tbesatisfied
with that involvem ent
in thescene. But
I t' s up to youto liveyourlifeand m y
life' s up to m e! No onerules,

butm y
rules rulem e
."
"I don' tfeelany pressureto behave
in any stereotypical way whatsoeverwith
theseboys becausethey are
allm y little
brothers. I ' m about1 0 years olderthan
m ostof ' em . I ' m notgroupie/girlfriend
m aterialand I ' m notm om . They can' t
figureitout. Good! Now let' s try to be
friends."
"I m ustadm it,I do haveanxieties'
aboutbeing a wom an and getting older. I
m ean, willI beableto diveoff stages and
thrash when I turn 30 ?Actstupid if I feel
likeit?See,guys can getaway with that
shitm orethan wom en . Thereis a certain
conductthatwe,as wom en,aresupposed
to follow,especially olderones . I just
hope
thatas I getolderm y m ind willstill
rem ain open to theyoungergeneration,
thatI won' t beso set in m y ways thatI
ignorewhatthey' retrying to tell,notjust
m e,butallof us who areolder
. Afterall,
in a few years,m y son willbea teenager,
and god knows whatthatgeneration of
youth willbelike."
"Getting into punkhas been them ost
significanteventof m y life--otherthan
having a baby. I would definately haveto
say thatthewholepunkm ovem enthas had
an im pacton m y life--its m usic,its dress,
attitudes, ideals. I ' vepretty m uch had to
redefineand restructureeverything that
I ' ve
always believed or was taughtto
believein (sorry folks,thebrainwashing' s
worn off) . I only hopethem ovem entis as
strong orstrongerwhen m y son turns a
coupleyears older. I ' d liketo seethe
youth of Am erika becom em oreunited,not
justpunx,butallyouth. I t' s theirworld
and I really believeit' s in theirhands to
changeit."

am
; to Offend
"I play bass in a punkband. I have
never been afraid to play an instrum ent,
exceptgrowing up fem ale. .yourparents
don' tpush youto play electric
instrum ents . I havebeen playing for2
years now (bass),and guitarlonger.
Therearea coupleof bands who haven' t
letm eplay,and I thinktwo thirds of the
reason is becauseI ' m fem aleand itreally
hurt! They arehardcorebands and areon
a heavy m etalcrotch rocktrip which I
thought weweretrying to get
away
from ".
"I ' vealways wanted to bein a band.
I f m en don' tlikewom en in bands,fuck
them ,they' retheones being
ignorant--we' vehad to livewith 5 or6
years of "m aledom ination"in bands . More
wom en should getinvolved and help open
som eeyes,and m inds".
"I play in a band thatis nothardcore
butsom ewherein between thatand punk
in term s of speed and sound. My band
usually plays to thesam etypeof crowd
thatsees hardcorebands and weworka
lotwith bands thatarehardcoreand we
find thattherearestilla lotof false
expectations aboutus becauseweare3/4
fem ale. I can' trecallthenum berof tim es
when I ' vem entioned thatI ' m in a band
and theinevitableresponseis "Oh,you
sing!"They' realways confounded when I
say "No,I play bass."We' vealso run into
situations wherepeoplehavejustbeen
"No,

I ' m

notintim idated to do

really fucking gross in theirintim ations

anything (tough shitattitude) . I ' veseen

aboutus,i
.e.,"Youguys don' treally

theattitudein others thatyou' renotcool

practicewhen youpractice,do you?You

if you' renotin a band . That' s a bunch of ' justfuck,right?",or 1 i
Thatwas really

shit"

good thatthoseguys broughtin those

*How Not

girls, it must be a really good draw. "

Therewas consternation when itwas
' explained thatthesituation was reversed
and thatitwas "girls"who had broughtin
theguys."
I am involved!! I sing forCONF LI CTin
Tucson,writeforzines and run ourm ail
ordertapeand info business! I t' s fucking
great! I am doing som ething creative,
som ething I feelgood about
. I know lots of
girls who havenothing to do buttake
drugs,drinkand livefortheir
boyfriends
. I can' thandlethis sortof life
form e! I always haveto bedoing
som ething orI feellikeI ' m going to
explode!"

"Atfirst,I had troublereconciling

m yself to m y hom osexuality
. I tried to be
wholly fem inine,which was uncom fortable
and unsatisfying. I know now thatthere
areboth "m asculine"and "fem inine"sides
to m y nature; I feelthatboth areessential
ra
t omyindividualit y."
"Yes,I ' m happy with m y self-im age. I
havealways had extrem ely shorthair,
and,being 5' 1 0 ",peopledo notice
. I
realizethatI am allI have,so I m ightas
wellbeproud of m yself--so I stand up
straightand also stand up forwhatI
believein . Thefactthatwelivein a
basically m aledom inated society doesn' t
botherm e."
A LOTOF WOMEN DI DTALK
SPECI F I CALLYABOUTBEI NG A F EMALE
PUNK. THE DI SCUSSI ON RANGEDF ROM
BEI NG ACCEPTEDBYONE' S F RI ENDS,
HAVI NG TO "ACTCOOL",ANDBEI NG OR
NOTBEI NG I N A BAND.
******
"Sexualoppression in thescene?I
really thinkthata lotof girls would like
to go outon thefiancefloor,butfeel
pressurethat"girls justdon' tdo that".
They feelcom pelled to kickbackand
observe. I don' tfeelany stereotyped
behaviorin which I feelcom pelled to go
along with. I f I wantto havefun and
dance,I will-I don' tcarewhatanyone
thinks
. I don' tfeelcom pelled to always
havea beerin m y hand,and speed in m y
pocketto becool."

"I am always afraid to play an

instrum entbecauseI don' tknow how to
play . I ttakes talent. I was being taught
to play a bass guitar,and when I couldn' t
getitright,theguy replied "Yougotno
balls"!"
"I ' veneverbeen afraid to play an
instrum entorbein a band
. I thinkthat
everyoneis a littleintim idated about
playing in a band . Everyonewants to be
accepted and praised".
"I ' veneverbeen afraid to play an
instrum entorjoin a band. I n fact,I
intend to get
a
band togetherwhen I get
"better-than-average"
on m y guitar,if not
boundlessly perfect. I am a 1 7-year-old
punkgirlwho used to wantto bea
drum m ereversinceI was about1 2 or1 3,
butwhen I was
about1 6,I rehearsed (as
a drum m er) with theseguys. I can say I
"Thereis sexualoppression from surewas discouraged to becom ea drum m er
guys,

be

it

unconscious

or

afterthat
. (I m ean I told ' em I nevereven
what ever-societ y condonessexismfrommen

haddrumlessonsbut t heyst ill insist edon

from theday they areborn . ButI ' llsay

rehearsing and itturned outto bezilch!)

thatin Akron theguys areforgirls being

I thinkif I wasn' ta girl,thesituation

them selves and everyoneis foreveryone. I

would' veturned outon a differentcourse.

only feelstereotyped when I havenothing

I justwanted to say thatit' s notso easy

"Thereis a certain pressureto

elseto blam eform y com plaints ."

fora girlto try to find band m em bers who

presentyourself in a certain way (ie. very

hip,very flashy in thesenseof knowing areoutto im press
. On theotherhand,
everything insideout,knowing allthe
' rightpeople' ,

etc
.) .

That,

I ' m not
interested in ."
"Onething is thatgirlskinheads (I ' m
notone),areconsidered lesbos,; that' s
shit! Plus som ethinkif girls wearjeans
and boots allthetim eand don' twear
fluffy dresses thatthey' redykes. AllI
can say to thatis I ' veneverseen m any
guys dress up in a 3-piece
suit."
"I stillam notclearon the
stereotypical "fem alepunk". I ' d say there
is onetypewherethegirls arefairly rich
and buy clothes thatcosta lotand that
t here are g irlswhoare "hard" andt oug h
t hat g et skinheads, wearleat herjacket s,
combat boot s, et c.I not herwords, want t o
looklike g uys."
"Wom en areslightly excluded from the
scene. ButI ,
m yself,haveneverseen a
decentfem alelead vocalist. I guess it
wouldn' tbetoo bad
. I "m glad to seem ore
and m orechicks in bands though
."
"I love t oslam, andI dog et afraid
wit hall t he 200-poundg uysout t here
seeing who'st he big g est dick
.Lot sof
t hemhave t heirbrainint heirleft ball
while slamming , andmost oft he ot her
t imes t oo."
"I slam to m y heart' s content. BUT
THOSE F UCKI NG LI NE-BACKERS OUT
THERE WHO MAKE OSCAR MEYER HOT
DOGS OUTOF ME,F UCKI N' KNOCKI T
OF F
. I ' d liketo seethebands designating
a song ortwo forwom en . I don' t careif it
is only reversesexism but,I thinkthata
lotof wom en havenevergoneon thefloor,
or pit. I do,does that qualify m efora
browniebutton?Seriously, I thinkitwould
befunny to do a song with justus lam e
twats outtheresm ashing
. Thinkaboutit.'
"H ow about awomen'scaucusofpunk
music? I hat e t o say it , but most oft he
male- dominat edbandsare redundant ly
boring .Yes, and
I knowt hat it isupt o
me t ochang e t hat .I hope I can."
******

******************

*********
NOW WE GETTO THE MEATYPART. A

and boots. Thesetrappings arenorm ally

"Som etim es when I flip through these

LOTOF THE HOSTI LI TYPREVELANTI N

associated with m achism o . Mostof theAm erican

punkzines,allI seearepictures
THE RESPONSES WAS DI RECTEDATMEN

hardcoresceneis dom inated by m en

. afterpictures of whatlooks likethesam e
ANDCONCERNS THE ALI ENATI ON WOMEN

Usually thestageand
dancearea is filled guy with an alm ost-shaved head,leaping
F ELTF ROM THEM.

by m en
. Takea lookatthephotozine"My and grim acing with a m icrophoneand no
******************Rules",noticeanything?There' s nota shirt
. I didn' t know that they cloned Jello
"People
whoscoffat t he not ionofa

sing le female int he whole t hing .I really

Biafrayet .God, it g et sboring ! Just

"m ale-dom inated society"--this is foryou :

don' tm ean whatI ' m saying to betaken as once,I ' d liketo seea photo of a girl
--when youhearof a band forthefirstan attackbutI ' m curious as to why playing a guitarand really working atit ."
tim e,withoutknowing who them em bers

hardcorem usic tookthefacades itdid . I s

are,don' tyou autom atically assum eit' s

itreally an alternativewhen forthem ost

all-m ale?

partiteitherignores oris downright

--why is itthata band with only m ales is

objectionabletowards wom en?I f you' d like

called "a band",whilea band with all

som eexam ples of thatcheckoutthe

fem ales is called "an all-girlband"?

com pliation album "LifeI s So Ugly,So Why

-
-in allsorts of circum stances,don' tyouNotKillYourself",orthenewestBLACK
justautom atically assum ethatsom eoneis

F LAG album with its poontang spiel(it' s

m aleuntilyoufind outthecontrary?

been pointed outto m ethatperhaps the

--why can' tm en wear
m ake-up and skirts?was tongue-in-cheek,butas a friend
--who wrote/writes thelaws,thebible,

said,how m any peoplearegoing to m ake

thehistory books,them edicalbooks,the

jokes aboutPalestinians being m urdered

newspapers,thetextbooks,etc. . . .???"

and who would thinkit' s am using?) I t' s

thesam esituation to m e. I ' m notsaying
"Thereis a littlesexualoppression

thatallthepeoplewho supportorplay in
buttheway youaretreated by them ale

hardcorebands aresexistpigs butI do

punks around heredepends on theway

thinkthatm any areguilty of justnot

youact. I t' s allwithin you. I behave,

thinking . Of courseitis notonly m en who

dress and acthow I wantand I havea lot
of friends here. I really likem y ' position'
(orwhateveryouwantto callit) in the
punkscene
. Thepeoplehereacceptm eas
a punk,notas a fem alepunkora girl
punkorwhatever."
"I t 'st oobadt hat we couldn't have an
alt ernat ive formofmusict hat hasall t he
energ yofhardcore musicbut wit hout all
t he t rapping st hat are normallyassociat ed
wit hmasculine t rait s.H ardcore musicsays
manyt hing ssubconsciouslyjust byI t s
appearance t hat are int imidat ing , especially
t owomen."
"I feel that alienation is a betterword
than oppression,wen describing the
Am erican hardcore/punk sceneatlarge
. At
least95%of them usicians arem en in their
lateteens/early 20 ' s. Them ostenthusiastic
fans of thesebands arealso m en, about
thesam eage,who crowd thefrontof the
stageand/orthrash. Theboys m ake
noise
areto blam e
. Wom en should re-thinktheirfortheboys
. I ' m notsaying I don' tlike
conditioning as well,especially in term s of them usic,m uch of itis great,butI feel
things likeslam m ing wherewom en are
notleftout. Does anybody eversing to m e,or
as visibleprobably becausethey' vebeen to theothergirls?"
conditioned notto do things thatare

"Actually,theonly com plaintthatI

excessively physical. As wellthough,

getis thatm y hairruins m y looks. As if

wom en should nothaveto shavetheirbeing pretty,oratleastattractive,m eans

"I feelthatallthetrappings of

heads and wearbig boots justto betaken

thatyouhaveto looklikesom ecrusty

hardcore

m usic

are

typically

m ale

seriously justas m en who areinterested in

snatch likeBrookeShields (I betthe

dom inated : shaved heads,leatherjackets

hardcoreshouldn' thaveto
."

Shields partstands forsom ekind of

rTeminine~prot eect ion,~I g uess/ g hat s/ why/ e/ / / / / / A n/ / inciden/ / / he/ / /
/ oured/ e/ / a/ M / A / ''~/ / / /.
.fF,/

4 Gre.I , ./ /
t hinkshe isarag )
.A ct ually, ifyou canM I SFI TS showlast fall (Sept
.82)really
believe t his, mymomt houg ht t hat it wasdist rubedme .The M I SFI TS were assholes
more o
.k.forg irlst obe punks, t hanforandkept pushing fans offst ag e . Thison
g uys
.I g uesst his had
t o
do wit h
g irl g ot pushedoffandt he boysinfront
somet hing about clot hes, orweirdness, aswouldn't let herland, t heyg rabbedher
est ablishedbyt he W.C leavers.I findt hat
breast sandrippedhershirt andt hen
people whodonot knowme t hink
t hat I amt hrewher back
onst ag e .Whenshe finally
ment ally ill .But , t hat 'so.k."

g ot off
st ag e, Glen said
"Get t hat g irl
backup here"and/or"Youguys are
alright",orsom ething stupid likethat
. I
left soon after
that."
"I really hateto say this,butI like
m alepunks betterthan fem alepunks,once
youcan setasideconstantsexual
obsessions. They arejustm orerelaxed
aboutthem selves (generally) and they
seem happieraboutbeing punks and hav
a m uch healthierattitudetowards m ean
thescenetoo . I know gigs haveto be
m orefun for them , becauseif itjust
LOOKS likeso m uch fun to be
outthere,
then itm ust
betwiceas good to do it."
"I think som eguys
arevery sexist
and thinkyouareonly thereto screw and
bea groupie
to them . Thatis ram pant
hereand everywhere. I try to avoid bands
with lyrics thatputdown and degrad
wom en,som etim es them usic is realgood,
butthelyrics suck
. Thereareso few
girls into
hardcorehereand they are
totally into their boyfriends
m orethan
anything
. I ' m TI REDof living through
som eoneelse!
Therearevery few girls
hereto talkto
. My m alefriends don' tgo
outwith girls they' rejustinto m usic . I ' ve
never understood this
phenom onon, they
seem
to haveno sex driveatall,orthey
wantto sleep
with you im m ediately. I have
a few who arereally good friends though
."
"I ' m pretty happy with m y self -im age,
and a lotof ithas to do with m aleopinion.
I was lucky to beborn fairly
attractiveso
I don' tknow whatit' s liketo feelugly in
thatsense. I ' d liketo say I don' tgivea
fuckwhatm en think,butI do."
"Maledom ination is nauseating to m e
because
I feelthatfem ales arethe
superiorsex,partially in responseto the
constraints society has forced them to rise
above.
I am m aterially satisfied by the
m ale-dom inated society,butm y
spirituality,in thebroadest
sense,is a
lifelong upward spiral
. I hatepeoplewho
areself-satisfied
."
"I thinkit' s o
.k.
forwom en to look
tough,etc .,as theguys do (I rem em ber
thecom m ents of "OH,I thoughtthatwas a
boy"), and I also liketo wear pretty
dresses and lookdefinitely "fem ale", butI
likediversification . Stagnation stinks like
a cesspool. I thinkthatitis greatfor
punx to datehetero-orhom o-,does not
m atter. Weallneed loveand com passion.
Afterall we' rehum an. But,gigs arenot
justforfuckin' picking up on people.
Som etim es punx area lotlikethepeople
weinsult. And really that' s notallthat
bad. But,think beforeyouact."
"I m ustm ention thatlastsum m er
when I was visiting Chicago I saw a band
(m ale) called theANTI -BODI ES . These
guys sang a very offensive(notto m ention
stupid) song called "Sm elly Crotch"which
was abouta girlwith aproblem . Well,the
song goes on and tells us about how she
tried a doucheand showered, etc.,butit
wouldn' tgo away. I didn' ttelltheguy
whatI thoughtof his song orhis m entality
so I ' d liketo now say "why don' tyoujust
stickto writing songs abouthow big your
dickis and why don' tyoustickto the
jockclubs and quitcalling yourself a
punk,youm adem eill."
"I don't reallyfeel anysexual oppression
except maybe fromafewsong sfromsome
oft he more comical local bands.For
I nst ance t here ist hisg reat bandcalledt he
A N TI - BO DI ES.Theyhave asong called
"SmellyC unt s" andwhenevert hey
int roduce t he song , t he sing erdoeshis
I mpressionofjust t hat .The g uysall have
ag oodlaug h, sure, but it 'skindof
embarassing forusg irlsout t here .I don't
t hinkt here issuchat hing as"women's
music" .Tome, musicismusicandit 'sfor
everyone andanyone whowant st ohear
it ."
"I thinkthings could regress if for
exam plebands likeMEATMEN and other
certain stupid attitudes getoutof
hand . I
m ean,even if theMEATMEN arejoking,
thatkind of joking doesn' t need to be."
LI F E I NTHI S SOCI ETT
OEM,ATREST,NiLI TTER
BORE NO NDASPECTOF
SOCI ETY EI MATALL
RELEVANTTO MMI I ONAN,
THEE Ew1 1 1 aTO CI VI C,
NI I OF D, RESPONSI BLE.
7MI I LL-SEEKI NGGI RLS OK
TO UNDERMI NE THE GOVERNMENT
TO EASE55MO EOGA"I ZE
TE SENSELESS . ARC0 AI C
LEGAL SVSTOI I MO I NI TI ATE
A' ORE EF F ECTI VE NE1 1 CO
a ENF OI CEENTI ,TO STOP
NE BLI NDACCECPT"SE OF
I NPtAI SI ALE EGI ANOL
I ODELS,TO E-EOI LATE
APATETI C F EMALE POPPETS
rNO DI STORT7I E I I NGO
NO I SPAI P NE EVOLUTI ON
OF NOE". ..
ANDTO
"I m ay livein a "m aleworld",butit
ain' tgonna m akem elay backand takeall
of this shit
. I don' thaveany grudges
againstm en
. Shit,I only feelthatwom en
m ustnottolerateany sexualhostility,or
perm issiveness . "
"My happiness
is notdom inated by
m ales
. Butin som eways m ales determ ine
m y contentm entjustas with everybody."
"Theonly tim eI wantto bea m an is
ata gig,because
let' s faceit,they have
m orefun. Sureyou
seegirls outthere,
butarethey really having fun?F rom what
I ' veseen,m ostgirls who go into thepit
havethis lookof sheerterror,
fuck-with-m e-and-I ' ll-scratch
-
your-eyes-out at t it ude t hat can't possibly
be funfort hem.The onlyg irlswhoI
t hinkhave ag oodt ime slamming are larg er
ones, at errible but t rue fact ."
"I am happy. I likem en and they
m adem ewhat
I am ,I m ean I grew up with
a coolbunch of guys
. Butthereis a
biggerm ajority of m en thatareassholes
m orethan wom en ."
"Society is
m ale-dom inated butI
surround m yself with strong wom en and
strong m en who acceptm eforwhat I am . I
don' thaveany tim eto wastetrying to
convertpeople. I ' d ratheravoid them or
blow them away
. I figuretha= they' ll
neverchange,why should they. I get
really angry when I can' tbulldozepeople
likethat. I won' tpretend to beservilein
orderto havea jobas an unpaid
m aid/prostituteto som ebody."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
O F C O U RSEA LO T O F WO M EN FELT
A LI EN A TEDI N GEN ERA L WH I C H
' SU PPO RTS TH E I DEA
TH A T TH I S SU RVEY
I S N O T JU ST A BO U T WO M EN
.H O WEVER:
SOME

WOMEN

F ELT

HOSTI LE
SPECI F I CALLY
TOWARDS OTHER WOMEN.
*****************
"I ' venoticed som ethings aboutwom en
in them ovem ent
. Theothernightwe
celebrated
Joe' s girlfriend,Andy' s,
birthday. Weweretalking abouta
lotof
things,and in the
conversaton she
expressed extrem ealienation from the
scene. Theideals
expressed by them usic
werenotconsistentwith theaudience' s
generalattitude. Shesaid thatif she
didn' tdress rightorbea certain way,
despiteallthelofty ideals,shewas
ostracized from hardcore' s socialcircles.
That' s som ething I ' vefound everywhere.
My sister' s biggestcom plaintaboutD.C.
runs along theselines
. I know thatthis
"fashion conscientiousness"is a general
fixtuream ong allgroups.
.She
adm itted as m uch,butthefactthatpunk
was theostensibleantithesis of this train
created a realdisheartening disappointm ent
in her."
are
"There
"I ' m a girland I ' m happy and
som etim es proud of thefact,buta lotof
"hardcore"girls seem to go outof their
way to betough,m ean,and bitchy. I ' ve
been hassled forbeing "too beautiful"
which
m eans I havetried to m akem yself
lookattractivein a differentway than
they do
. I m ean,youstartto thinkthat
youarea targetfora ratpackof snarling
skinhead girls justbecauseyouhave
HAI R,forgod' s sake. I ' veasked them
a
sim plequestion and allI getarethese
glaring looks and they curltheirlips and
som ebands
orindividuals say "I don' tknow"likeI am shitor
who display sexistattitudes in lyrics orsom ething
. This really pisses m eoff.
behaviorin punkm usic and/orourscene
. Thereis no need forpeopleto treateach
Butit also seem s there' s a greaternum berotherin such a rude,fucked way
. This is
of enlightened (non-sexist) m ales in punka fact
: Hardcoregirls aresom eof them ost
in generalas com pared to heavy-m etalintolerant,judgem ental,hung-up-on-their-
types orwhatever."

own fem aleness orlackof

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WLI/IIi/i/ii/i//iiiie/iii/i/iiiiiiF
.I.elAnIl/iAKeii
around.
I t 'sfucked, but I 'mnot g oing t o

t ypes"N ew wave slut s" andsoonbut

"I fyou mean"women's

music" as a
st opg oing t og ig sorlooking t he wayI do
because oft hem.I mean, Jeez us, I
t houg ht t he whole ideaofbeing apunk
andlooking sodifferent fromeverybody
else wast oshowalit t le t olerance and
open-mindednessfort hose different from
us, but some people make me wonder."

n
"I don' t know about sexual oppression
I n punkm uzak. I guess thereis,I ' ve
neverreally paid thatm uch attention.
F uck,there' s sexualoppression
everywhere, butI would haveto say,and
I ' m sureI ' d getshitfrom otherwom en
aboutthis,thatitcould bethatwom en
bring iton them selves
. Notall,m ind you,
but a m ajority of them . I m ean it' s so
m uch
easierto blam em en forourfailures
and neuroses than to blam eourselves.
Mostwom en I ' venoticed,punx,arevery
assertiveand aggressiveand that' s really
refreshing to see
. Lots of wom en singers,
m oregirls in bands.
. . .I ' d say the
m usic has given wom en m oreopportunity to
express

them selves.

Musically,

and
otherwise."
"Ah yes,onetypeof fem aleI ' vecom e
across is theleech/starfucker/nam e
dropper. She' s an insecuregiggling dolt.
Shegoes afterguys in bands. They feel,
they reach som esortof status when their
boyfriend is in a band
. I don' tlikeit.
Would they go afterthis guy if hewasn' t
in a band? No. Thenam edroppertalks
about this oneand that
: "Oh,I justtalked
to so-and-so on thephone,he' s a good
friend of m ine,we' rereally close",or"Did
youhear. . .",or"They had a fightand.
." and
so on . .This typeof fem ale
does notcareoneiota aboutm usic . She
only cares aboutherm akeup antes and
dress and aboutthelatestgossip
. She' s a
wolf in sheep' s clothing,and a threatto
MYsanity, ideals, and everyting I believe
in and stand for."
then I saw this oneguy (in a relatively
well-known Detroitband) m aking outwith
one. Or. . .ata UKSUBS show (Dec. 82)
held ata clubthatusually holds other
kinds of shows,a girl,nota scene
regular,was wearing a very shortdress
with half herbutthanging out. Several
hardcoreguys,4 or5,werecrawling on
theground following behind her,looking
up her skirt. I twas hard
to decidewho
looked m orestupid ordisgusting,theguys
orthatgirl."
"Several g irlswho were compet ing for
myt hen boyfriend hadt oldhimt hat he
shoulddumpme fort hem.Were t hese
womencog niz ant t hat we are punx fig ht ing
acommoncause, not eachot her? We are
not int he scene, supposedly, t og et
boy/ g irl friends
.O rare we? I s
Schopenhauer rig ht insaying t hat all men
andwomenhave t he primaryinst inct t o
fuck? A ndt hat ifit were not formorals,
we'dall be screwing int he st reet s.I bet
t hat t he M oral M ajorit ywould
LO VE t hat .
A nyway, I t hankt hose asswipest hat use
t he scene t oonlyjust ifyt heirownends.
Remember, all t hat you dohasimpact on
all people, andit will probably
come back
t oyou, especially ifyou fucksomeone
over, I 'll vouchfort hat ."
"A ll ofuswoment ake anhonest look
at ourselves, we will findt hat we are all
g uilt y.There are noeasyanswers, but I
doknowt hat womenshouldbe t here for
eachot herandt alk, andmost import ant ,
list en.
{I ~f*
we don't helpourselves, who
N
4 {
11TH ESU BJEC T O F WO M EN 'S M U SI C
TH ERESEEM EDTO BEA WI DEO PI N I O N ,
BU T TH EC O N SEN SU S WA S SO M EWH ERE
BETWEEN TH EREI S N O SU C H TH I N GA N D
TH ERESH O U LDN 'T BEA SEPA RA TE
C A TEGO RY .

BU T

SO M E

WO M EN
A DDRESSED

TH E

I SSU ES

O F
SEPA RA TI O N .SH O U LDTH EREBE
A C TI VI TI ES EX C LU DI N GM EN O RSH O U LD
WEDI SC O U RA GEBU I LDI N GBA RRI ERS
BETWEEN TH ESEX ES?
"Women'spunkisalabel t obe
avioded.Tomake adist inct ionlike t hat
wouldbe t oseparat e men'spunkfrom
women'spunk.Toseparat e womenfrom
menisst upid.Women'sproblemsare int he
long runmen'sproblemst oo, andvice
versa."
"Getoutthereand DO I Tfrom a
totally fem alepointof view. They appeal
to m y (basically negative) separatist
fem inistinclinations. I hategirlbands like
theGO-GO' s and such shitwho reinforce
allourage-old problem s. Thosebroads
should beoffed,quick."
"Wom en' s m usic is only in thesense
of wom en activistshows wherethewom en
putthem selves apartfrom
m en--segregation of thesexes"
"Wom en arethebackbone
of this
country,and I thinkit' s im portantas
wom en,wedo notseparateourselves as
yetanotherfaction in thescene,butwork
togetherallas one. We' reall
good people,
and I ' m gratefulforallthegood thathas
been done, and hopem istakes arelearned
from --
Wearethefuture,and let' s notwim p
out."
"I was only scared to play orbein a
band beforeI gotinto thehardcorescene!
"Norm al",as they putit,society m usic is
very intim idating to allinvolved,especially
wom en
. ButI ' vebeen in oneall-girlband
and am now starting to organizefora
second all-girl
. NotthatI wouldn' tbein a
band with m en butI enjoy theall-girl
t ype ofsoundorst ag e presence, no,
definit elynot .A lt houg hint he past ,
female musiciansdidt endt ousuallybe
involvedinmore ent ert aining , A M -ish,
pret t yt ype ofmusic
.I t hinksome
boundarieshave beenbrokenwit hDEA DLY
REI GN andU RBA N A SSA U LT .I t hink
female hardcore musicianst endt obe
scrut iniz edmore t hanmalesonst ag e ."
"There is"women'smusic" but so
muchofit (all ofit )isjust ant i-male
music.Reg ularmusicisn't "men'smusic"
sot here I snoneedt ocreat e awhole new
g enre ."
"WhenI heart he t ermWomen'sM usic,
I t hinkofH ollyN ear/ M eg C hrist iant ype
ofst uff.I t 'snot radenoug hforme,
alt houg h, t heydocovermanyint erest ing
issues."
"JoanA rmat rading , Pat t iSmit h, N ina
H ag an, t he SLI TS, t he RA I N C O A TS are
some examples, plusJanisJoplin, Joan
Baez , Pat Benat ar, Debbie H arrycang o
screw.WendyO
.isaveryhonest and
st rong lady
."
"I don't believe in"women'smusic",
"men'smusic", "black'smusic" orany
ot herseg reg at ing ideas.Punkist he
people'smusic
.I t isavoice ."
"There are female perspect ivesand
male views.A nyt hing I 've heardwit ht he
label of"women'smusic" hasbeenso
st ereot ypical folk-cot t on-birkenst ocks-eart h
t hat I couldpuke ."
"I grew up listening to Holly Near,
Chris William son,etc . I likea lotof the
m usic,butI som etim es feel that som eof
thewom en' s m usic (likethat) gets to be
extrem ewith thefem inistpolitics.
Som etim es to thepointthatI feel they' re
chauvinistic towards m en. I don' tlike
chauvinistic m en,and thesam egoes for
wom en . I haveno opinion on wom en' s punk
m usic, becauseI haven' theard m uch at
all"
"Somet imes I t hinkI 'mmore dist urbed
bywomen who perpet uat e st ereot ypest han
men
.Womenwhowearrevealing clot hes,
hig hheels, and lot s
of
makeup.
These
t ypes I see more at different shows, not
usuallyhardcore shows.I 'malsoconfused
by m ales in hardcorebands who callthose

idea."
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. I iron. Turning whatis destructiveand
A RESULTI NG CONCLUSI ON TO THI S

spitin thefaceof any oppressor

. I can do toxic into nourishm ent,becauseI refuseto
SU RVEY
I S TH A T A LTH O U GH WEA LL

anyt hing I decide t hat I want t o do.

Whoaccept
oppression ofanykind.Fearis
H A VE
PRESSU RES A N DC O N DI TI O N S

t ellsme "no"? The music"scene" isshit .

adrenalin.What causesfearshouldbe
THAT ARE
OUTSI DE OUR CONTROL,

Who thefuckcares?F ashion trends areaddressed directly

. I confrontm y fears.
MANYWOMEN F EEL THAT WE CAN HAVE

ways of oppression,suppression . Dem and

How to
livein this paternalistic
A DI RECT
I NF LUENCE ON OUR
LI VES .

changenow
. Music m usttranscend being society when thedefinitions havealready
EX PERI EN C E, PEERPRESSU RE,
PERSO N A L

t heirmusic, mymusic, man'smusic,

been made? I t ist ime forhumanit y(even

WANTS

AND

NEEDS

ARE

OUR

wom an' s m usic

. Butthem usic biz prefers thatword which is thebroadestterm for
RESPO N SI BI LI TI ES TO C O N TEN DWI TH
.

cat eg ories. Gaydisco, count ry'n'west ern,

usmammals, hasmanat it scent er)t o

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * old wave, new wave, wave g oodbye
t oall recog niz e it shumaness
.I t s female (t here
"Surethere' s sexual oppression, but

thatseparatism ,elitism . I happen to bea

itis again) and m ale-ness,to seewhatis

it' s everywhere. The
"hardcorescene"is

wom an. My genes,m y horm ones,m akeup com m only

shared, find reasons to
draw
probably

t he

least

biased

scene

my body, affect andinfluence what I am

t og et her anddirect ourenerg iest owards

A N YWH ERE, even t houg h t he quest ion is

and
what I do. I wrot e asong about El

real chang e .Enoug h

ofg het t ost hat
alwaysfloat ing around.I fwomenWA N T t o

Salvador, because myg ut hasbeenripped

separat e .Eonoug hlabelst omake me

be t reat edas"equals" t henwe should
st op

apart by what I have heard, read,

different fromyou .I knowwhoI am, I

whining and ACTlikeequals
. Thereis

witnessed of thatcountry. Whether1 am

don' t need outsideapprovalto exist

. 1
pressure, but I personallyhave never

womanorman, t he t rut hofA merica's

don't need aself-"imag e"

.I spit at
g one along wit h "st ereot ypical behavior"
.

involvement inEl Salvadorand

C ent ral

dominat ion.Fuck, aut horit y.M y real fear

Thestereotyping
in thesceneis that

Am erica,rem ains.

is of
people' s quietacceptance
of their
wom en should bealm ostlikea dike,but

Rockforpoliticalchange. I am

constricting environm ent

. Butthereis no
shouldg o fuckaround wit hanyg uyt hat

pot ent . A big problem exist swit h people

safe
place . . .We have all beendrivent ot he
looks ourway,that' s stupid. To repeat an

feeling them selves im -potent

. I can cause

brink,whetherweknow itornot.
overclichedst at ement , "I t houg ht hardcore

chang e .I canchang e myenvironment .

We have t osee ourselvesas

m eans being yourself". Well,if people

Opposition is everywhere. Good . I tm akes

com batants. Always questioning,never

can' tacceptyouforwho you are,then

m estrong . Chewing on rusty nails for

accepting blindly som eoneelse' s "truth".

maybe t hose people aren't wort h it .

O r eveno
row
Seriously
. Thereis a lotof "m ale

I
stereotyping"--99$ of thepunks and ;Ws
lookand actexactly alike; butno one
seemst ooupset about t hat ."

"
S O M E

M E N

J U S T
"H ardcore is seenasa"male

e",
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andt he womeninvolvedare usually llyseen
as som eoneto graborjust"oneof the
g uys".A bout ayearandahalfag ot he
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g uyswouldlookandmake comment s, but
we [women)st ayedandhadfunanyway.
Women, ifwe want anyt hing , have t ost ick
up forand stand by whatwebelievein,
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orelseyou' llseeyourdream s falldown on l
top of you."
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"I am involved in them usic scene. I
enjoy thesceneand havea good tim e. I
feelthatif
wom en want to bem ore
involved do it! Writefora fanzine,starta
fanzine,setup gigs in warehouses with
low covercharges. Youdon' thaveto be
in a band to beinvolved. Justgetup and
do it."
"I wantm oreaccess to thefem inine
spirit. They areprofoundly
"spiritually-connected" and haveso m uch
to teach us crippled m ales . F em inism is the
suprem eliberation of MEN
."
"I f weas wom en reinforcethe
traditional "wom en' s ways" wearecutting
ourown throats. Men loseouttoo . We' re
allgood atdifferentthings and can use
this to our advantageif wework
together."
"Wo-m an. A m aledesignated
appendage.
Why do thewords defining m e
and m y sex relatebackto m en?Thereis
no sem antic autonom y. I n theUnited
Kingdom ,languagewritten and spoken
establishes a castesystem
. Everywhere
m en' s useof languagehistorically restricts
thefreedom s of wom an through theways
they arenam ed. Men havegrown lazy,
seeing only whatthey wish to see
. Wom en
havetoo long rem ained quiet. Both have
suffered through theserestrictions.
' Wom en' s rights and wom en' s issues
areno longerm inorpoliticalitem s .'
Am I happy with m y self im age?
Stupid question
. O.K. Am I happy?No.
Should I behappy?Happy is a dum b
word . A lam epurposeorgoal. "Happy"is
a stateof no feeling,no seeing,forto
livein this world,in this ageof death,
how can onebe"happy"?Welivein a tim e
of rapid changeand ram pantignorance.
F or what wehavebecom e, angerrages.
No-thing is good enough.

' I

was

afraid

to

slam ' ,

claim s
punkette. ' I s theresexualoppression in

punk

m usic?'

theNational

Enquirer
inquires.
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ANGST-"NeilArm strong
" 1 2"EP
A severely underrated Bay Area band,ANGSTspecializes in
intricaterockarrangem ents buoyed by occasionally hilarious
lyrics
. Such is thecasehere--songs like"NeilArm strong,"
"Pig,"and theirsoon-to-be-classic "Nancy"havea listless
dem entia aboutthem thatallows them to cross theboundaries of
art-rockand funnypunkwith equalease
. A fineeffort,so buy
it
. (SS)
(Happy Squid--P
.O
. Box 64 1 84 --L.A. CA
90 0 64 )
ANTI -Defy theSystem LP
F lying in thefaceof theanti-political,anti-peacereaction,
ANTI fearlessly display a peacesign and a V-sym bolon the
coverof theirsecond album
. Thelyrics continuethe
counterattack,m eshing both generaland personalpolitics to
form an intelligentcom plem entfortheirattack
. Thesound here
is m orerefined and harm onic than thaton theirlastouting,
sortof likeearly CHANNEL 3
. (TY)
(New Underground--4 30 5 W
. 1 53rd St
.--Lawndale,CA ..0 260 )
ARTI CLES OF F AI TH -"Wait"EP
This new EP showcases A.O .F
.' s m usicalversatility
. "I ' ve
GotMine"is a relatively slow CLASH-influenced song with great
dynam ics and a quasi-psychedelic guitarthatsporadically
breaks into full-tiltthrash
; "Wait"
and "Buy this War"are
intense,distinctivethrashers with innovativeguitarinteraction.
A big step forward
. (JB)
Affirm ation--P .O
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BANG GANG -"SheRan . . . . butweRan F aster"EP
Musically com petentthrash with a quirky edge,butthe
lyrics. . .yuk. "4 X theF un,"likethecoverartand theband
nam e,revolvearound thejoys of gang rape. I supposeit' s just
anotherpunk"joke,"butin theoffensive6th gradestyle.
(TY)
(Matako Mazuri-350 6 Speedway #20 4 -Austin,TX 7870 5)
BENEDI CTARNOLD& THE TRAI TORS -"No MoreHeroes
. . ."
EP
Disappointing . Thenew B
. ARNOLDEP isn' tnearly as
appealing as theirold "KilltheHostages"release
. Stylistically,
thesehum orous songs rangefrom garagepunk("I Hate
Sports") to 60 ' s
jam s ("Hollywood") to silly ska ("WhiteBoy
singing Ska"),butthebiting satireand an innovativecover
conceptaren' tquiteenough to com pensateforthelacklustre
m usicalattack. (JB)
(Veracious--1 51 7E . Washington Blvd
.--Pasadena,CA91 1 0 4 )
BI G BOYS -Lullabies Help theBrain Grow LP
An excellentalbum by this long-standing Austin band . Solid
production enhances them any m usicalstyles this group bashes
outwith ease--thrash,funk,punk,pop,ballads,younam eit.
Thewords arebarbed and confrontational,and Biscuit' s singing
rem inds m ealotof theUNDERTONES' raspy vocalist
. I t' s a
good ' un . (TY)
(Mom ent--P .O
. Box 1 24 24 --Austin,TX 7871 1 )
BOLLOCKS -"Meditteran"EP
Eightnew songs from theband who previously released the
classic "AllRockStars should beDrafted"EP . Side1 features
six short,punchy,creativethrash-stylenum bers,whilethe
flip has two longer,slower,and m oreexperim entalsongs
. A
creativeoutfit. (TY)
(F etal--1 21 9 Robin Hood Circle--Baltim ore,MD21 20 4 )
BOMB SQUAD-"Children of War"1 2"EP
Thesecond BOMB SQUADreleasereally kicks ass . I t
features som ekillerolder-stylepunkand som em ore
thrashed-outnum bers,allof which aredelivered with zealand
com m itm ent,as arethelyrics. This sem i-obscureband does it
right! (TY)
(Bouncing Betty--2959 Latham Dr
.--Dallas,TX 75229)
BONDEDI N UNI TY-"Hellon Earth"cassette
This sounds likea liverecording
because
it' s hard to pick
outm uch detail
. Nonetheless,B
.I .U.
delivera strong thrash
onslaughtwith thoughtfulpoliticallyrics
. I ' d liketo seethese
characters getinto a studio
. (TV)
($3 to T
. Cote--60 Wildwood
Ave
.--Greenfield,MA 0 1 30 1 )
C .I .A
. -"God,Guns,Guts"EP
Really powerfulthrash with pronounced m etallic lead
breaks.
C .I .A
. m ay notbreakany new ground,butwith this debut
they provethem selves to beoneof theEastcoast' s best' new
entries
. Lyric-wise,"Com m ieControl"is pretty inane,butthe
othertitles m akea
lotof sense,which they backed up by
playing attheD
.C . "RockAgainstReagan"show
. (JB 6 TY)
(Shm egm a--556 Broadway,2nd floor--Bridgeport,CT
0 660 6)
CHANNEL 3 -AftertheLights Go OutLP
Moreof thatpop-punksound so characteristic of L.A.' s
Poshboy label. Theproduction quality contributes to CH 3' s
powerfuloveralldelivery,and thesongs areas catchy as
usual. I ' m nottoo thrilled by therom antic them es thatappear
here,and it' s depressing that another new band is covering a
sexistSTONES song,butthis album is pretty entertaining.
(TY)
(Poshboy--Box 38861 --L.A.,CA 90 0 38)
CREWD-"Gather' Round
" 1 2"EP
A finesounding debut
. I t' s gottheclassic SoCalpunky
thrash sound a la T.S .O .L
. and BADRELI GI ON,m ixing a hard
attackwith pop sensibilities and clean production
. They com e
off betteron record than thetim eI saw them live,when they
indulged in som eretarded sexistbanter
. (TY)
(Enigm a--P
.O . Box 2896--Torrance,
CA 90 50 9)
D.D.T. -"BraveNew World"EP
I really likethis debutreleaseby Atlanta' s D
.D.T. They do
two charged thrashers,two deranged post-punknum bers (side
2),and an absolutely fabulous 60 s-stylepsycho-pop song ("Mr.
Roger' s Neighborhood") thatrem inds m eof theearly LASTand
is vastly betterthan m ostof today' s self-conscious
neo-psychedelic m usic
. (JB)
(D.D.T.--P .O . Box 720 34 1 --Atlanta, GA 30 358)
CHOCOLATE WATCH BAND-Bestof . . . . LP
Now theseSan Joseguys really shredded
. They weream ong
thekings of 60 ' s raunch rock,excelling atstraight-on 60 ' s
punk,psychedelic freak-outs,and atm ospheric folk-rock.
Whatever,this album is allsuper-cool(exceptfor"Misty Lane"
and "TenderTrap"),sortof liketheearly STONES
. Go out
and getit. (TY)
(Rhino--1 20 1 Olym pic Blvd
.--Santa Monica,CA 90 4 0 4 )
CLI TBOYS -"WeDon' tPlay theGam e"EP
Them usic on theCLI TBOYS' debutis solid straightforward
stop-and-go thrash,butit' s thelyrics thatstand outhere. I n
this era of widespread punkjockattitudes,ittakes
alot of guts
to beltoutsongs like"Gay' s O.K."and
"Slogan Boy," butthis
Milwaukeeband isn' tafraid to tellitlikeitis (orshould be)
and facetheconsequences . Morepowerto ' em . (JB)
(F eedback--P .O. Box 1 8723--L.A.,CA 90 0 0 7)
A finetape' s worth here
. I trem inds m eof whata cross
between 7SECONDS and theVANDALS would sound like
. I
really go foritin a big way
. DERANGEDDI CTI ON are
originally from Missoula,Montana,butthey' verelocated in
Seattle. (TY)
($3 to J. Am ent--1 4 1 9 N .E
. 66th,apt. 2--Seattle,WA 981 1 5)
This new JONESES EP is a 50 /50 proposition
. Half of itis
really lam erockabilly-typeswillthatseem s to beaim ed atthe
STRAYCATS
' trendy audience
; theotherhalf consists of
raunchy guitar-oriented blasts in theHEARTBREAKERS m old,
and m akes itworth hearing
. Still,itshould havebeen a
(JB)
(Am erican Standard,dist
. by Rough Trade)
KI LLI NG CHI LDREN -"Certain Death"EP
Garagepunk(the
i
nstrum entation) m eets early SoCalsurf
punk(thevocals),drops acid (thep
r
oduction),and voila' I
really likethis 7-song debut
. (TY)
(
Grav
elvoice--P .O
. Box
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0 4 --Colum bus,
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FEEDERZ - "Jesus" EP
A reissueof theprovocativeF EEDERZ EP with a new picture
sleeve
. I n caseyouneverheard it,it' s gotinnovativesong
structures,m em orablehooks,and som eof them ostbiting,
"subversive"lyrics around . Theeasily-offended should steer
clearand stickto thetriteand predictable; allothers should
rush outand buy it. (JB)
(Placebo--5820 W. Virg inia--Phoenix, A Z 85035)
I MPOSTERS -"I nsideMy Head/King of Am erica"
"I nsidem y Head" is an excellentexam pleof ' 78-era
power-pop,with enough guitarpunch to justify the"power"
half of theterm . I tsucceeds in generating a bitof m isty-eyed
nostalgia,butthe
lam e
flip features disposablewhite
reggae-rock. (JB)
(Dublab--1 537A 4 th St.,Suite1 0 7--San Rafael,CA 94 90 1 )
I NSANI TY DEF ENSE -cassetteLP
This tapecontains fourteen songs thatshred m usically and
lyrically
. I t'
s an all-outthrash attackthatI highly recom m end.
(TY)
($2 & postageto P .O . Box 21 6--Centerport,NY1 1 721 )
JODYF OSTER' S ARMY-Valley of theYakes LP
LiketheircooldebutEP,J.F .A.' s album is chockfullof
superenjoyablethrash tunes. Theirsongs,whetherhigh-speed
blasts ortheoccasionalsurf-styleinstrum entallike"Baja,"are
perfectforhotfun in thesun--skateboarding,surfing,drag
racing and,of course,slam m ing and skanking. Them ain
im provem entherelies in thearea of production--theguitarhas
m oreedgethis tim earound . Even though they' refrom Arizona,
J .F .A. aretheCalifornia beach band of the80 s . (JB)
(Placebo)
MALI GNANTGROWTH -"Nobody Cares"cassette
A good tapewith original,intensethrash
. Thelyrics are
pretty darkand depressing,butsom ehow they don
' tcrush you
down,m aybebecausethey
'
reobliterated by thescream ing
fuzzed-outguitar
. (TV)
($2 to Self-Destruct--271 0 Pikes PeakBlvd
.--Louisville,KY
4 0 21 4 )
RI F LE SPORT-Voiceof Reason LP
TheGANG OF 4 aretheobvious referencepoint,butthese
guys add a m orepowerfuland raw guitarsound to thefunk
rhythm s,and occasionally breakinto m orethrashy structures.
Therecording is excellent
. (TY)
(Reflex)
SECRETHATE -"Vegetables Dancing"1 2"EP
I nstrum entally,SECRETHATE utilizean interesting variety
of thrash tem pos,although two songs havea Latin orfunk
influence
. Thelyrics areappropriately vagueand cryptic,a
New Alliancetradem ark
. (TY)
New Alliance--P .O . Box 21 --San PecTro,CA90 733)
Thenew MI SGUI DEDEP is louderand m orepowerfulthan
theirdebut,buttheoff-kilterdrum m ing tends to interruptthe
m om entum of thesesom ewhatdisjointed thrashers (especially
"Defy Standards")
. Mixing problem s areinvolved,though a
spirited am ateurish quality characterizes theentirerecord.
"Blacklist"has lyrics of considerablecontem porary relevance.
(JB)
(LyleHysen--8 WyngatePI .--GreatNeck,NY1 1 0 21 )
Anothersuperb7SECONDS release
. This new EP highlights
allof theirtraditionalqualities--raging thrash m usic,great
tunes,intelligentand inspirationallyrics (m orepersonally
oriented this tim earound)--and adds m oreguitarpower,som e
new m usicaltwists,and im proved production
. There' s a
very
noticeableMI NOR THREATinfluencein thevocalphrasing,but
this is stillSkeeno hardcoreatits finest
. (JB)
(Squirtdown--72 S . Patterson Pl
.--Sparks,NV 894 31 )
MECHTMENSCH -"Acceptance"EP
A m ixtureof fastand slow hardcorefrom a Wisconsin
aggregation with a closerelationship to theTAR BABI ES
. The
arrangem ents arefairly com plex,likethoseof DI E KREUZEN
and m y favecutis "Land of theBrave."Watch foran upcom ing
TAR BABI ES disc . (TY)
(Boneaire--31 1 S . F ew St
.--Madison,WI 5370 3)
SOCI AL REVENGE -"There' s Always
a Way Out"cassette
I t' s garagetapetim e
. Thatterm applies to both thesound
quality and thethem atic hum or
. SOCI AL REVENGE aren' treal
tight,butthey'
refun . (TY)
($4 to S
. Soriano--24 22 Rashawn Dr
.--Rancho Cordova,CA
95670 )
SUI CI DAL TENDENCI ES -LP
Blistering rougharsed Metalthrash! Untam ed havoc of
shim m ering propensity,thrusting wild whines of alarm ing guitar
wails into glass-shattering breakneckspeed as chilling vocals
by thestorm ing croonerMikeMuirclaw forth a devastating
attack
. SUI CI DAL TENDENCI ES area scream ing cycloneof
sheerpowerand determ ination,and this LP shows why they
havesuch a strong following . (Pus)
(F rontier--P .O
. Box 22--Sun Valley,CA 91 352)
Excellentguitar-oriented rockand roll
. This EP contains
threewell-crafted pop-rocksongs with good quasi-60 ' s hooks
(allof side1 and "Micro-WaveMother") and onefasterpunkish
num berwhich rips heavy cocaineusers ("Kola Sketch")
. Clever
and noteasily classifiable,theTAZERS deserveyourattention.
(JB)
(Tazer,no address,try Zed)
URBAN WASTE -"PoliceBrutality"EP
I ntenseadrenalineblasts with som echoppy,dischordantlead
breaks. URBAN WASTE createquitea guitarwall-of-sound,and
thesongs startto clickafteronly a coupleof listens.
They
also deserveto win an award forthefunniestand cleverist
"sexist"song in ages ("Banana-NutCake")
. Getit. (JB)
(MobStyle--24 6-1 4 54 th Ave.--Douglaston,NY1 1 362)
VATI CAN COMMANDOS -"HitSquad forGod"EP
Mediocreproduction hurts this otherwiseintensethrash
attack. Therearen' tany m usicalsurprises,butit' s delivered
with exceptionalpower,and thatm akes allthedifference. Good
debut. (TY)
(PregnantNunc/o Jim S
.--23 NearwaterLane--Darien,CT
0 6820 )
I seem to behaving a flashback
. I s this early PI NKF LOYD?
TheWATCHBAND?No,it' s a currentband that' s gradually
becom em oreoriginaland biting than thoseL.A. copycatpsych
groups. Theguitaretches notes green and purpleinsidem y
brain . PleaseshuttheWindow . (TY)
(Bring outyourDead--Box 1 60 951 --Sacram ento,CA 9581 6)
REPLACEMENTS -Hootenanny LP
Morevaried and experim entalthan theirprevious outings,
and itsuffers forit
. Overall,its notnearly as powerfulor
rocking
; thereareseveralbluesy orcountrified num bers in
placeof theirstandard raw blasts
. Thestandoutcutis "You
Lose,"which is great,infectious,and innovativerock' n' roll,
with a bass linerightoutof theMOVE
' s repertoire
. (TY)
(Twin /Tone)
VARI OUS ARTI STS -Viva Las Vegas cassette
F ivevaried hardcorebands appearon this Nevada sam pler.
SUBTERF UGE play m id-tem po British-stylepunk; TWI STED
MORALS OF AMERI CA havea slow hard sound with a wicked
raw guitar; theinfam ous M.I .A
. (who' verecently reform ed)
em ploy theirfurious thrash attack; F -8 sound prim arily like
full-on DI SCHARGE
; and SELF -ABUSE attend the7SECONDS
schoolof tunefulthrash . Great! (TY)
($5 to Marky--1 60 0 Rochelle#66--Las Vegas,NV 891 0 9)
VARI OUS ARTI STS -Mixed Nuts Don' tCrackLP
An excellentD.C
. com pilation which deserves a m uch wider
distribution than ithas so farreceived . I tcontains diverse
m aterialfrom a num berof relatively obscurebands,including
garagethrash by MEDI ADI SEASE,
raw experim ental punkby
CHALKCI RCLE and
theNUCLEAR CRAYONS,powerhouse
thrash in a Dischord vein by SOCI AL SUI CI DE,NEOS-type78
r.p.m . thrash by UNI TEDMUTATI ON,and garagerockby
HATE F ROM I GNORANCE
. Thegritty production accentuates the
good m usic,so lookforthis . (JB)
(Outside--31 1 1 F irstSt. North--Arlington,VA 2220 1 )
VARI OUS ARTI STS -
Ohm igod!Hardcorecassette
Thereareeleven bands on this latestcom pilation from
Chainsaw fanzine,m ainly from New Yorkstateand
en d nsylvania. I tcontains alotof thrash,som epunk,and som e
art/noisem aterial. Them usical
com petencevaries from band to
band,butm ostaregood
. They includetheREVENGERS,NO
THANKS,SOCI AL DI SEASE,WASTEDTALENT,the
F ATALI TI ES,SUBURBAN AGGRESSI ON,SMERSH,CRACKED
ACTOR,N.O .T.A.,and others. (TY)
(Chainsaw--P . O . Box 5356--Bethlehem , PA1 80 1 5)
VARI OUS ARTI STS -"SkateRock,vol. 1 "cassette
A cool collection of skateboard bands com piled by Thrasher
m agazine. Thepure"skatecore"sound--thrashed-out m usic with
m elodic
teenagevocals--is represented hereby theF ACTI ON,
J.F .A.,and theSKOUNDRELZ
; LOS OLVI DADOS and Canada' s
RI OT .30 3 offerpowerfulolder-stylepunk,theform erfueled
by a truly bone-crunching guitar,thelatterby engaging
choruses
; MI NUS ONE havea great60 ' s pop approach
(especially on "I _Rem em ber John")
; theBI G BOYS presentan
awfulthrowaway "rock"cut; and the"DRUNKI NJUNS"favor
slow m etallic songs with built-in tension . (JB)
(Thrasher--P.O .Box 24 592--S
.F
.C A 94 124 )
VOODOO I DOLS -"WeDig Nixon/Dead Air"
Entertaining garagepunkfrom F lorida
. I f "Nixon"is a
satire,it' s a good com m entary on gross ignorance
; if not,these
guys m usthavegotten "A' s"in theright-wing "Am ericanism "
coursethatallF lorida high schoolstudents haveto takein
orderto graduate
. "Dead Air"is fasterand considerably
better
. (JB)
(VeeDee--3622 Om arAve.--Tam pa,F L 33629)
WHI TE F LAG -S is forSpaceLP
Theseguys m ightbepunk' s answerto F rankZappa
. The
m usic ranges from garagepunkto heavy m etalto m etal-punkto
rockto thrash to experim entalstuff to justplain
ridiculousness,and is interspersed with talking,interviews,
and blankspace
. This album is sim ultaneously im aginative,
challenging,and dum bbeyond belief
. (TY)
(Gasa-Tanka--1 24 1 N
. Harper,Suite6--Hollywood,CA 90 0 4 6)
YOUTH BRI GADE -Sound and F ury LP
There-release
of this LP,sincetheStern brothers weren' t
too happy with thefirstand weredeterm ined to putouta true
quality product
. F eatures only foursongs off thefirst,and
when theseguys do som ething right,they go allout! This
totally enjoyablesliceof blackvinylis perhaps oneof thebest
records m oney can buy
. Lots of diversified touches,variations,
and good harm onies from punkrap to hardcorespeed and
energy,which has allthem elodies rum bling in yourhead
. When
yougetbored of therest,this perform ancewillstillresideon
yourturntable
. (Pus)
(B.Y .O .--P.O .Box 67A 64 --L
.A ., C A 90067)
VARI OUS ARTI STS -Posh Hits,vol
. 1 LP
A greatcom pilation of tracks from thevaults of Poshboy
records
. Therearem any gem s here,buttheCI RCLE JERKS'
"Wild in theStreets,"theCROWD' s "Modern Machine,"and
T.S.O .L
.' s "Peacethrough Power"rankas highlights in an
album which also includes chestnuts by AGENTORANGE,
BLACKF LAG, and U .X
.A. Good variety and quality m ake
this
record m andatory if you don' t have
theoriginalrecordings.
(SS)
(Poshboy)
WHI TE CROSS -"What' s Coin' On?"EP
This isn' tas m usically thrashed outas theirgreat7"debut,
butit' s stillpowerfulas hell
; in thatsense,itparallels the
direction thatS.S
. DECONTROL arecharting out
. The
production hereis
also m uch im proved
. I ' vegota feeling that
WHI TE CROSS willneverbeas good on record as I hearthey
arelive,butthis is stilla necessary addition to anyone' s
hardcorecollection
. (TY)
(Zero Degree--P .O
. Box 1 4 532--Richm ond,VA23221 )
ABRASI VE WHEELS -"JailhouseRock/Sonic Om en"
DEADMAN' S SHADOW -The4 P' s LP
I f this releaseis
repesentative, theA.
WHEELS arealready
in decline
. TheA-sideis a pathetic punky coverversion of
ELVI S' old hit; theflip is a
pedestrian Britpunksong with a
decentchorus. Whatever happened
to kickers like"Burn it
Down?"(JB)
(Clay)
ANTHRAX -"Capitalism is Cannibalism "EP
Penny Rim baud' s distinctiveproduction spices up fournew
com positions by ANTHRAX on theirsecond EP
. "Violenceis
Violence"and thetitletrackboastfasttem pos and a blistering
guitarsound which underlinewell-taken lyric concerns
; thetwo
cuts on theB-sidealm forsubtlereffects,with equalsuccess.
This is politicalpunkthat' s both unusualand exciting
. (SS)
Crass
ACTI VES -"Riot"EP
A rich,abrasiveguitaronslaughtprovides an aggressive
energy to this debut
EP
by theACTI VES
. Therecording seem s
a bitm uddy here,buttwo songs in particular("Riot"and "Out
of Control") suggestthatthis group can em ergefrom a
standard Britpunkstylewith catchy,change-of-pace
instrum entation .
Recom m ended .
(SS)
(Quiet)
CRASS -Yes Sir,I Wit! LP
This is a profoundly differentsortof CRASS album
. I t
counterpoints a thrashy,wild instrum entalbackdrop with an
extensivelyric essay attacking thepolitics of power,nuclear
escalation,
organized religion,and especially oursheep-like
passivity which allows itallto happen
. CRASS apparently feels
thattheirm essagehasn' tsunken in yet--hencethenum bing
m usic and em phasis on words--and they obviously hopethat
action willreplaceboredom and endless posing in the
ontem porary punkscene. (SS)
(Crass)
Jeff,thenexttim eyouassign m eto review som eso-so ' 77-
sounding U.K. stuff,youbetterm akesureit' s a 4 5,orI ' m
gonna forceyouto sitin yourroom and listen to itatfull
volum e
. (TY) (Ed .-Aw,poorTim )
(Expulsion)
DESTRUCTORS -"Wild Thing"1 2"EP
TheA-sidehereincludes slightly m odified versions of two
songs thatappeared on theirrecent"F orces of Law"7"
(reviewed in MRR #6) ; theflip has threefinenew thrashed-out
cuts which havethatdistinctiveDESTRUCTORS m ix,with its
highly exaggerated snaredrum and high-hat
. Add a Pus cover
and bettersound quality,and youend up with a dam n good
show . (JB)
(I llum inated)
DI SRUPTERS -Unrehearsed Wrongs LP
Easily m orepowerfulthan theirfirsttwo EPs,Unrehearsed
Wrongs contains som efinem id-tem po punkcom positions,
including "Gas thePunx"and a catchy re-working of their
classic anti-vivisection song,"Anim alF arm ."Som eof thetracks
seem repititious,butI enjoyed thepoetic changes of paceand
theguitar-heavy production
. Checkthis oneout. (SS)
RadicalChan e)
A pretty unrem arkablerelease. Allthreesongs arein the
' 78 U.K. styleand,though they'
readequately perform ed,no
realenthusiasm is deplayed and no cuts really stand out
. (TY)
(RiotCity)
ENEMY-"LastRites/Why Not"
Despitethesilly cover,this is probably thebestENEMY
releaseto date,m ainly dueto theexcellentB-side. "Why Not"
is a doubletim eblastwith a distorted guitarbacking thatleaves
theA-sidespinning its wheels in thedust. (JB)
(F allout)
F ALLOUT-Hom eKilled MeatLP
This is a bitbetterthan theotherU.K. records I was
assigned this tim e
. I tcontains som ethrash and som eolder-style
punk,allof which is delivered with considerablepower.
Personally,I likethelivetracks best--they havea totally
industrialquality to them ,sortof likehardcorem eets
THROBBI NG GRI STLE . (TY)
(F allout)
MAU MAU' S -"F acts of War"EP
TheMAU MAU' S providea strong argum entin favorof the
benefits of speed in m odern punkm usic
. They havefairly
typicalchord progressions,generic them es,and a rather
annoying vocalist,butsom ehow thefrenzied tem po com pensates
by keeping yourarm s and legs flailing about
. "F acts of War"is
a killertrack
. (JB)
(Pax)
M . MOORCOCK' S DEEP
F I X -"Dodgem Dude/StarCruiser"
Can old hippies stillproducegood m usic?MichaelMoorcock
proves thatthey can riseto theoccasion with "Dodgem Dude,"
a wonderfulpsychedelic blastwith loud guitars and haunting
background vocals
. A really excellentcut,notequalled by the
flip
. F licknifeis an innovativelittlelabel. (JB)
(F licknife)
REDALERT-We'
veGotthePowerLP
Oh yeah?Youm usthavelostitbeforeyourecorded this.
Actually,it' s notthatbad atall--I justcouldn' tresist
. There
area few decent"skunk"tracks here,butm ostplod along with
no specialspark
. (TY)
(No F uture)
G.B .H . -"Catch 23/Hellhole"
Good latesteffortby this m etal-punkoutfitthat' s quickly
gathering a bad rep as having an advanced stageof
"Rockstaritis
."TheB-sideis especially strong and
well-produced
. (TY)
(Clay)
I CON A.D. -"LettheVultures F ly"EP
Aftertheirexciting debutEP,this effortranks as a
disappointm ent
. Strong fem alevocals aream ply supplem ented by
a fairsong on theA-side("Say No"),butthetwo B-sides are
dism ally produced and sound alm ostas if theband didn' tcare
whatthey weresinging about--a lackof com m itm entthat' s fatal
here. Maybenexttim e. . . .(SS)
(RadicalChange)
LASTRI TES -"WeDon' tCare/Stepdown"
80 ' s Britpunkatits unim aginativeworst
. This band plods
forward uneventfully,spitting outhackneyed lyricalcliches
along theway
. I tsounds likethey don' tcare,so why should
anyoneelse?(JB)
(F licknife)
LOSTCHERRI ES -"No F ighting No WarNo TroubleNo More"
EP
A solid,com m itted 7-trackEP from Surrey' s LOST
CHERRI ES
. F em alevocals and a basic,well-balanced production
com plem entthis varied selection,butthestraight-ahead rockers
like"RealCrim es"and
"
Pain Relief"arethem osteffectiveof
thesehighly politicalcom positions
. A finedebut,even if "No
F lag"sounds foralltheworld likea punkversion of "O,
Christm as Tree
."(SS)
(Riot/Clone)
LUDDI TES -"TheStrength of yourCity"EP
Though nam ed aftera group of 1 9th-century rebels who
wentaround sabotaging industrialm achinery in Britain,these
LUDDI TES haveadopted a quasi-industrialpost-punkapproach
in theirm usic
. Herein onecan find m easured tension,a heavy
bass,interesting drum flourishes,and a som breoverall
attitude. Ratherabnorm al. (JB)
(Xcentric

Noise--1 7

West

End

Rd
.--Cottingham ,

N.
Hum bersideENGLAND)
REDLONDON -"Sten Guns in Sunderland"EP
REDLONDON play older-stylem elodic punk,which sounds
betterby virtueof its relativerarity today
. Theguitars havea
clean 60 ' s tone(courtesy of ATTI LA?),butultim ately the
m aterialfails to im press itself on yourconsciousness
. Decent
lyrics,though . (JB)
(Razor)
SYSTEM -"ThoughtControl"1 2"EP
I nveighing lyrics highlighted by a raunchy hard-edged
guitarsound which whines and grinds
. TheSYSTEM m akea
blend of m elodies and vivid rhythm s which aredistinctand
vivacious,a raw exhilarating sound sim ilarto ANTHRAX or
CRASS,butwith a strength alltheirown
. Good enjoyable
m usic . (Pus)
(SpiderLeg?)
XTRACT-"Blam eiton theYouth"EP
Standard m id-tem po U
.K. punk. Therearen' tany real
surprises here,butthetitletrackhas a catchy chorus and
"Boys in Blue"has a weebitof drive
. O.K.,butnothing to
writehom eabout. (JB)
(Pax)
MAJOR ACCI DENT-"F ightto Win/F reedo
m "
A severeearly CLASH influence,rightdown to theJoe
Strum m ervocals,m ars theofferings on this band' s second 4 5.
Thebetterof thetwo tracks is "F ightto Win,"an
fair
unadventurous ' 77-stylepunknum berwith a
uninvolving background choruses
. This kind of thing has been
donebetterelsewhere
. (SS)
F licknife)
RUDI MENTARY PENT-Death Church LP
Atlong last,a RUDI MENTARYPENTalbum
. This band
delivers theessenceof totalim agination into theirm usic,
lyrics,and art--com pleteoriginality . F ast,creativeand
haunting,thefascination continues with this overwhelm ingly
intensedisplay of lunging vocals,screeching guitars,enticing
bass,and roaring drum abrasiveness. Onceagain,thebrilliance
thatis R. PENT. (Pus)
Crass/Chor.us Christi)
SUBHUMANS -"Evolution" EP
Now here' s an English band and record thatI do like. Allof
this m aterialhas thatspecialfeelof intelligenceand
com m itm ent,whethertherock' n' rollof thetitletrack,the
thrash of "NotMe,"orthepowerchording of theunlisted
track. Oneof thebest,no doubtaboutit. (TY)
(Bluurg)
ULTRA VI OLENT-"Crim eforRevenge"EP
A finenew British thrash band
. Thestrong production
enhances theirtight,powerfulinstrum entalattack,especially on
"Dead Generation
."RiotCity has surpassed No F utureas a
quality label. (JB)
(RiotCity)
ANTI -CI MEX -"Raped Ass"EP
An exceptionalultra-thrash attackcan befound on
ANTI -CI MEX' s second EP . Theproduction is m uch better,and
theband is m uch m orecohesivethis tim earound
. Thesesongs
rankrightup therewith thoseof theSHI TLI CKERS and
HUVUDTVATT(theHEADCLEANERS) in theSwedish "shred
"
sweepstakes . A m ust. (JB)
(A-Records--Husargatan 5--4 1 30 2 Gothenberg--SWEDEN)
APOSTASY-"Pseudo-Punks"cassette
A well-produced yetraw rhythm -heavy band with a garage
feel,notunliketheirfellow countrym en,theSUBHUMANS
. The
lyrics areallpolitical,and arebestsum m ed up by theirnam e,
which m eans a "renunciation of previous beliefs,religion
. . ."
(TY)
($1 & blanktapeto Thrash Trax--1 1 0 671
1 4 6 A St.--Surrey
B .C . V3R 3V3--CANADA)
WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD
Thenewest(and possibly final) releasefrom LAMA displays
a reversion to theirpre-thrash sound--powerfulm id-tem po punk
with a heavy guitarattack. I suspectthatitwas recorded
beforetheiralbum ,butit' d bea superaddition to anyone' s
co(~ion. (JB)
(Johanna,dist
. by P . Tuotanto)
F RI TES MODERN -"6 Met"cassette
Six songs thatrageatthelistener
. There' s alot of MI NOR
THREATinfluencehere,in thatthesongs aredelivered with
incredibleforcebuthavem elodies and hooks galore. Greatstuff
thatm ustbeheard
. (TY)
(no address,buttry Vogelspin)
ROUGH -"Torino E' La Mia Citta"EP
F oursongs in thethrash/Oistyle,fasterthan m ostbutnot
as fastas theEXPLOI TED. Two songs arein English,and their
titles--"Riotin theStreet"and "Abuseof Power"--givean
indication of ROUGH' s them atic concerns. (TY)
(Meccano,dist. by S . Roberto)
RUTTO -"EiPaluuta"EP
A droning F innish garagepunkrecord . RUTTO' s songs are
extrem ely basic and nottoo fast,therecording seem s to be
taken from a portablecassette,and therearen' tany
outstanding hooks
. Them ostexceptionalthing hereis the
presenceof a fem alevocalist. (JB)
(I kbaldist. bP . Tuotanto)
SOCI ETY' S GRUDGE -To Hellwith Heroes cassetteLP
A 1 2-song debutthatshowcases a basic thrash sound
. I n
this instance,thefastcuts worka lotbetterthan theones that
startslow and build up. There' s som ething lacking here,likea
spark,butit' s stillworth a listen . (TY)
(Crossbones--1 50

F ort

St.--Winnipeg,

Manitoba

R3C
1 C7--CANADA)
S .P .K
. -"Dekom position"1 2"EP
S.P .K.,perhaps thepre-em inentindustrialensem blein the
world today,add traditionalvocals to this EP of
well-orchestrated percussiveand synthesized noise
. I tm ay be
m oreaccessibleand less affecting than theirground-breaking
Leichenschreialbum ,butit' s stillcontains extraordinary m usic
possessed of originality and,yes,genius
. (SS)
(Therm idor--729 Heinz--Berkeley,CA 94 71 0 )
STAZI ONE SUI CI DA -"Nuova Speranza
. . . " cassette
When STAZI ONE SUI CI DA thrash,it' s a wicked noisethey
m ake
. Unfortunately,they getbogged down too often in
horrific post-punkdepresso stuff thatdoesn' tdo m uch form e.
Greatsinger,though. (TY)
(dist. by S
. Roberto)
SUBHUMANS -No Wishes,No Prayers LP
Vancouver' s legendary SUBHUMANS delivertheirfirstrecord
in years,butit' s been worth thewait. An aggressive' 77-punk
stylem elds with strong lyrics to createbrilliantcuts like
"Am erica Com m its Suicide"and a very catchy version of
"Googolplex"; there' s even a killercoverof MENACE' s "Screwed
Up"to satisfy Britpunkenthusiasts
. Allwecan do now is hope
thatthey getbacktogetherand tour
. (SS)
(SST--P .O . Box 1 --Lawndale,CA 90 260 )
SUDDEN DEATH -cassetteLP
Thrash with a weird m etallic sound to it,alm ostlikean
electrified acoustic guitarorbass
. Som etim es itseem s
overcrowded--too m uch noiseatonce,too repetitive
. Theslower
thrash num bers havem oreim pacton this new cassette,but
personally I liked theirfirsttapebetter
. (TY)
(Crossbones--1 50

F ort

St.--Winnipeg,

Manitoba

R3C
1 C7CANADA)
T.S .T. -LP
I nvigorating thrash,com plim ents of this three-pieceSwedish
barrageof chaos. F rantic flailing of whining guitar
sledgeham m ers breakneckspeed,an invasion of energetic
rhythm s with toppling drum m ayhem
. Anotherstaggering
Swedish

band

that

delivers

Herculean

strength

like
HUVUDTVATTorANTI -CI MEX
. (Pus)
(River--Box 31 2--721 0 7Vaster-SsSWEDEN)
TERVEETKADET-"Kadet Suojelee" EP
A reissueof thefirsttwo T
.K. EPs (reviewed in MRR #3).
I f youm issed them thefirsttim earound,here' s yourbig
chance
. An am azingly raw sensory assault
. (JB)
($3 to P
. Tuotanto)
TERVEETKADET-LP
Believeitornot,T
.K. havedoneitagain
. Although side2
drags a bit(in relativeterm s),and thevocaland guitarm ix
isn' tquiteas piercing as itwas on theirpeerless "Aaretiin
Joulu"EP,this album is exhilarating in its intensity
. The
distinctivecom bination of paint-stripping vocals,flailing
guitars,and tightly-structured blasts of concentrated powerlift
T.K
. into a realm occupied by a few awesom em usicalentities
likeI NDI GESTI and DI E KREUZEN
. As M
. Bowles would say,
this is "shredsational,"so buy thefuckerim m ediately
. (JB)
(Propaganda)
UNTER DEN LI NDEN -EP
Thecoverwillfoolyou
. Stirring feedbackerupts into
screeching strikes of unrelenting acceleration
. Am azingly fast
exertions of detonating disorderfrom Sweden
. Packs allthe
punches of exuberantsplitsecond nitro blastings,with chaotic
guitars wild and frenzied,
savage
drum m ing,and vociferous
vocalpiercings
. Oneof thebestinternational7"ers out
. Thanks
to Jerker! (Pus)
(Am althea,no address)
VARI OUS ARTI STS -Als jeHaarMaarGoedZitvol. 2 LP
Twenty-threesongs by eightof Holland' s m any greatthrash
and punkbands. Thebands includePANDEMONI UM, the
HAEMORRHOI DS,ZMI V,theOUTLAWZ,NULL-A,theLAST
F EW,theAMSTERDAMNED,and B
.G.K. (who havean
incredibly hotdebutLP of theirown out),and thereisn' tone
lam etrackhere. Getthis today! (TY)
(Viig elspin--P.O .Box 70397--A mst erdam--H O LLA N D)
VARI OUS ARTI STS -"Kaaos--Lehden
. . . ."cassette
Seven bands appearon this com pilation puttogetherby
F inland' s Kaaos fanzine
. I tcontains som estudio dem os and som e
livereco Uings,and includes both better-known bands
(TERVEETKADET,theBASTARDS,RI I STETYT,KAAOS) and
newerup-and-com ing groups likePROTEST!,TAMPERE S
.S .,
and SI AN ANUS. Uneven butworthwhile
.

(TY)
(Saarinen--Jaakont ie 4 A s
.12--37800 Toijala--FI N LA N D)
VARI OUS ARTI STS -
"Tropical Viruses" doublecassette
Two 60 -m inutetapes containing all theprevious and soon-to-
appearBrazilian vinylreleases. TheseI ncludetheGrito
Suburbano LP (now outof print),theSubLP,theLI XOP ANI A
EP,the0 4 HO SECO EP,theupcom ing bCom er
s
o do F im do
Mundo livecom pilation LP,and theI NOCENTES EP . Anyonewho
cantafford to gettheindividualrecords should send forthis
atonce. Note: Thesong orderlisted on theinsertisn' t
com pletely accurate. (JB)
($1 0 cash to R' .
Lobo--RuaBarao deCapanem a 76,apt. 22--Sao
Paolo -0 5-. 0 1 4 1 1 --BRAZI L)
WRETCHED-"I n Nom edelLoro . . . ."EP
Thesecond release
by I taly' s WRETCHED. Lightning fast
disorderwhirlpools com pletely unrestrained destruction,as
wailing guitarbashes and shrilling raw vocals journey the
cranium into a bulldozing bom bardm entof m aniacalunhesitant
crushing speed
. I f you' rea fan of theNEOS,TERVEET
KADET,orDEEP WOUND,feelthecolossalquickness of the
WRETCHED. (Pus)
(Autoproduzione,dist. by S
. Roberto)
VARI OUS ARTI STS -Chaos in F ranceLP
Chaos Productions presents thirteen bands
from F rance. A
m ultiiucTeof differentnoises ranging from hardcoreto skin
chants
. Rem iniscentof English punkcirca 1 981 ,som etim es too
sim ilar
. Has a lotof powerand am bition,butneeds m ore
creativity. (Pus)
(dist.

by

New

Rose--7

Rue
750 0 6--Paris--F RANCE)
Pierre--Sarraz in
VARI OUS ARTI STS -Hardcore' 83 LP
Thelatestcom pilation from Propaganda varies in quality from
cutto cut,but seasoned
veterans I keRATTUS,VARAUS,and
theBASTARDS deliverthrashed-outsongs closeto theirbest
m aterial. Of thenewerartists,theMARI ONETTI and TAMPERE
S .S . seem to bethem ostprom ising,especially theform er' s
killer"Turha Arm eija
."With thirty-fivetracks by eighteen
bands,youjustcan' tlose! (SS)
(Propaganda)
VARI OUS ARTI STS -"Skins ePunks= T.N .T
."EP
Side1 is real m ediocre,
with DI OXI NA' s standard slow U.K.
punkand a ska tuneby ARRM,butside2 is a killer
. ARRM
returns with som eblistering stuff,NABATshowcases som efast
Oi,and RAPPRESAGLI A rips outstrong thrash
. (TY)
(C .A.S .,dist. by S. Roberto)
WASTE -"BlueNight"EP
Swirling guitars,spinning fastpsychotic grinds of explosive
vigor
. EnterWASTE from Holland,yetanother
approach to
quickdem anding hardcoreand punk,com pletely differentthan
AGENTORANGE orB.G.K
. WASTE areaggressive; an
onslaughtof butchering m ayhem bolts youto theelectric chair
with schizoid charges of outrageous fury
. (Pus)
(Prut,dist. by Vtielsin)
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