This document provides advice on various methods for reducing negative thinking and improving mental health and discipline. It discusses cognitive behavioral therapy, psychoactive drugs, existentialism, and various authors and techniques. For specific problems, it recommends assessing the nature of the issues and considering solutions like CBT, relaxation, analytical thinking, memory techniques, flow, goal setting, and daily practice.
This document provides advice on various methods for reducing negative thinking and improving mental health and discipline. It discusses cognitive behavioral therapy, psychoactive drugs, existentialism, and various authors and techniques. For specific problems, it recommends assessing the nature of the issues and considering solutions like CBT, relaxation, analytical thinking, memory techniques, flow, goal setting, and daily practice.
This document provides advice on various methods for reducing negative thinking and improving mental health and discipline. It discusses cognitive behavioral therapy, psychoactive drugs, existentialism, and various authors and techniques. For specific problems, it recommends assessing the nature of the issues and considering solutions like CBT, relaxation, analytical thinking, memory techniques, flow, goal setting, and daily practice.
so I may be way-off the mark. "[R]educing unnecessary negative thinking or unpleasant feelings connected to worthwhile endeavors". I can only guess what you mean here. Are you alluding to fear? Pessimism? Procrastination? Laziness? What do you deem "worthwhile endeavors"? Quitting smoking? Losing weight? Abstaining from a paraphilia? Completing a degree? Being a better husband? Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) has been thoroughly researched and demonstrated to be effective for the treatment of the most common neuroses, including depression. CBT can help with anxiety and "negative thinking". There are many -- both scholarly and popular -- books on CBT that are readily and cheaply available. Some troublesome behaviours in some people respond well to psychoactive drugs. If you have a mental disorder i.e. an "Axis I" or "Axis II" disorder (eg. mood disorder, anxiety disorder, impulse-control disorder, borderline personality disorder) then you'd be wise to see a psychiatrist. CBT and drugs work especially well together. Are your problems "existential"? I think that anyone who survived a Nazi concentration camp with mind intact has something useful to say about mental health. To that end I'd recommend Viktor Frankl (Frankl, V. (1959) "Man's Search for Meaning"). Logotherapy -- the field founded by Frankl -- may be useful. Frankl has much to say about suffering and adversity. If you are Christian then the writings of the Christian Existentialists such as Kierkegaard may be also be useful. No you won't get cute techniques from Frankl and Kierkegaard and you won't have your vanity fed by being told you have magical powers. You will, however, find deep consideration of the issues that occupy any mature mind that has not succumbed to narcissism or decadent stupor. If your problems are fluffy middle-class one's -- eg. "I don't go to the gym regularly" -- then collapsing anchors, the swish pattern and propulsion systems may be of use depending on the nature of the problem (and in the case of the Swish and propulsion systems, capacity to visualize). (In case you don't know these are NLP techniques). Self-discipline is a lost virtue and it is a key part of self-mastery. You can't buy it and no one can develop it for you. Is this your problem? Self-discipline entails some asceticism and the temporary suspension of your hedonic instincts, i.e. you must be prepared to experience some mental and/or physical discomfort and even pain. If you are not injuring yourself then you have no excuse. Quitting smoking by going "cold turkey" won't harm you. Sure, its uncomfortable and unpleasant but the discomfort will pass. Squeezing out that last repetition of your last set of squats won't harm you (if you know what you're doing). Sure it will be mentally and physically draining but that will pass. It's a matter of being prepared to endure discomfort/pain in the short-run for the purpose of a medium/long-term gain. Expecting and/or pursuing a life of pure pleasure is sheer folly. Look at Bandler: a fat, unhealthy, coke snorting, narcissistic, debauched, gin-soaked turd that lives in fantasy world. Come to think of it there are a disproprtionate amount of fat fucks amongst NLP trainers. I wonder whether this reflects a general absence of self-discipline and naive hedonism. >In other words, what methods, authors, work do you feel is worthwhile >to engage with my money and time or you found personally beneficial for >yourself. It is difficult to provide relevant recommendations when you've provided so little detail regarding your problem(s) (not that I expect you to post your personal details on Usenet). I believe I've already provided a list regarding persuasion products so I won't repeat that here. I think Kevin Hogan's books and tapes are worth your time and money as are those of Bodenhamer/Hall. (Hall is much maligned by the rogues on this NG. I won't defend the low production quality of Hall's books, they are replete with typographic errors. However, the content is good. Hall is an academic and his writing is suitably scholarly. Contrary to the popular opinion on this NG, Hall (and Bodenhamer) write lucidly. Their "The User's Manual for the Brain: The Complete Manual for Neuro-Linguistic Programming" is an exemplary introduction to NLP. Complaints that Hall can't explain things and such should be read as "I can't understand anything technical, I can understand only popular psychology books". These complaints about the difficulty of Hall's writing typically come from uneducated simpletons that are unaccustomed to rigour and technicality. Anyone that has been to an NLP seminars -- that is intelligent -- can confirm that the majority -- no not the totality, the majority -- of the participants are knuckle-heads, they are typically in sales, marketing, telemarketing, "life coaching" and "change work". Some are a rung lower, barkeeps and such. Yes, as unpalatable as it may be to some, the bulk -- the bulk, not the entirety -- of those that attend NLP seminars are as thick as pig shit. Sure some may be cunning and predatory but this is different from being intelligent. These typically self-proclaimed "people persons" have little or no capacity for comprehending _anything_ technical. Study the responses to my posts and my rebuttals if you doubt this.) Mainline psychology has produced a goldmine of practical findings, eg. Csikszentmihalyi's work on "flow" and Eckman's work on emotions. If you want specific recommendations you'll have to provide specific questions/problems. Progressive relaxation is useful. Any book/tape on self-hypnosis will teach you this. Many "problems" disappear if you learn to think clearly and improve your concentration. There are many good books on clear/critical/analytical thinking. The Teaching Company has a great course on argumentation and reasoning. For concentration and focus look to exemplars. Dominic O'Brien and Andy Bell are both world memory champions and both have books/tapes. The dual induction/multi-evocation CDs put out by Carol Erickson (yes, Milton Erickson's eldest daughter) are good. I hasten to add that -- unlike Wendi (with an "i") Friesen -- she does not have CDs that will turn you into a "cock and hair farmer" -- as Penn Jillette put it on the episode of Bullshit!. Depending on your problems these may be useful. Does this help? I have provided a broad and general response to your broad and general quations. Joe Bloggs 1/27/05 "JLA" <jlafor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1106770292.257979.297730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... - show quoted text - Hi, I read Myron's response and there is much in there for you to filter through so I'll add only a few comments. The Hall and Boddenhammer series he suggests is very good, and yes it is void of mystical association like much of the other bullshit scam artists peddling NLP are famous for, written more for a technically minded person. As far as discipline goes I practice Aikido. All that Myron says about discipline and overcoming some of the mechanical nature of the mind is true. It's not easy, and Martial Arts may not be of the best interest to you. There are many practices that can help develope some discipline and control of your mind. Csikszentmihalyi's coined the term "flow state" and for me he is the cornerstone and the authority on this state. He gives plenty of examples on how to induce and keep the flow state on a daily basis through rudimentary daily tasks. As I stated below, I use a breathing method to initiate and keep flow. It's very easy once it becomes regular, and that's the discipline side of things. There are days I simply don't "feel" like doing it, but I do it anyway. The results always supercede any (non)reason for not doing so. I'm not an expert on NLP, but given the quality of some of the self-proclaimed experts like Randall (who says he has been studying NLP or psychology for 30 years) I think I have a good grasp of what it can and cannot do. For one, it cannot cure ADHD (see James Harris' posts as an example). For some minor state changes, to increase motivation, etc, there are application in NLP that are indeed useful. For more therapeutic applications I would say seeing a professional who has a good grasp of some NLP modells, as well as qualified professional training, would be your best bet. What I've found is imperative with all "change-work" (whether minor belief, or motivational strategies) is having well defined goals, reasonable ones. That might be a bit repetetive for you to hear - it was for me - but until I started doing so no amount of "swishing" or the other really did it for me. I'd venture to say that all these "new" and improved methods of improving oneself include the basics on goal setting. That is, if they want to be successful over the long term. Finally, doing something small everyday to work towards your goal is imperative, and setting time aside to do so is necessary. There is much in Robert Nideffer's writings that deal with this. ---------------------------- largely agree with what you write about Robbins. However I am loath to praise him because he uses the same methods that cult leaders use to gather and subdue followers. In MacLean's triune brain jargon, Robbins puts the neo-cortex (seat of reasoning) to sleep with all the dancing, shouting, cheering and jeering and engages the limbic-system (seat of emotion) and reptilian brain (seat of basic drives). This feels good, it excites and agitates but is ultimately disempowering. Choice comes from thinking not from emoting or the basic instincts. Emotion and basic drives (for sex, food, survival, shelter) rob you of choice. Robbins' seminars don't stimulate thought, they suppress it. In the context of a self-improvemnt seminar this is wrong. It boosts repeat custom and tape-set sales but doesn't really serve the customer. I am fully aware that many people like to be told what to do, to not think, to have no choice and hence minimal responsibility. However, irrespective of their screwed preferences I maintain that these people are not behaving in a manner consistent with their own best interests.
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