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Julia, please call me Jack.
As much as we know about treating
disease, we know correspondingly little
about enhancing health.
It seems like we're in a losing battle.
The prophecy scroll may wake people up to
the advancing plagues in almost
every domain of our lives, and the slow,
dramatic decline of our planet.
It provides tangible actions for
individuals to
prevent this demise, and usher in a
whole new era of promoting health and
wellness, as well as support peace and
prosperity.
But this will occur only if we prove it
with science.
I welcome the conversation and the
controversy.
Dr. Killian Jack, the research you're
funding is radical.
You've even had threats, though for what,
measuring
the human spirit, using ancient documents
and research?
I guess I just don't understand what the
controversy is.
The researchers are simply applying
science to test
the wisdom of ancient text from the
biblical area.
Yet some call the research blasphemy,
other say it's heresy.
Some believes it's threat to modern
religion.
Most call it a bunch of hogwash and mumbo
jumbo spirituality.
Aren't you afraid of?
He interrupts here with an intense look.
Julia, I welcome scepticism and the
threats are
empty attempts at getting publicity for
their political cause.
Many had the same reaction with advances
such
as evolution, use of stem cells, global
warming.
They're missing the point.
Some people fear that science may prove
that some of the
basic tenants that underline faith and
beliefs are different than scientific
reality.
They also fear the political change that
may come with these new realities.
Well, they're fanatics, Julie concludes as
she sips her juice.
They have their own political and
ideological agendas to push.
Well, yes, perhaps.
But it's often that age old conflict
between science,
religion, and politics that can stir
people the most.
Kelian drinks his coffee after taking a
bite from his muffin.
Galileo, Newton, Darwin, and many other
scientists were all pros,
persecuted when the science conflicted
with the ideology of the day.
Religion seeks knowledge through
revelation, faith, and beliefs.
Whereas the scientific method relies on
reason and empirical observation.
Politics promotes whatever prevailing view
is held
dear by the power brokers at the time.
They often clash, particularly, as science
advances.
And either validates or refutes long held
practices and beliefs.
But I understand the death threats.
Well, people get their undies in a bundle
for many reasons, he laughs.
Then he says more seriously, well you've
seen the results at the Terme in Italy.
The human spirit is a powerful force and
the basis underlying most religions.
However, when you threaten their religion,
you've threatened them.
People are so volatile these days.
Nearly every city has violent protests.
Just look outside in the park across the
street.
People want change and social media
spreads the message so fast.
Suprisingly little things can trigger
widespread unrest.
We live in turbulent times, so I'm not
surprised some people take offense at this
project.
>> So Jim, catch us up on the story.
The slides show we're in the midst of a
big controversy.
What's, what's happening.
>> Well one of the colleagues of Dr. Ryan
Loftlynn is visiting town.
And she's attending a conference on the
research surrounding the last scroll.
>> Okay.
>> And Dr. Jack Killian is a presenter
from the National Institute of
Complimentary and Alternative Care.
>> 'Kay.
>> And he's presenting on the research
about using a biblical document.
The, the dead sea scroll, the last scroll.
>> Mm-hm.
>> As part of a research to determine
whether it's valid or not.
Or whether it does actually enhance your
energy.
>> Okay.
>> And it brings up a lot of protests and
controversy, and people aren't protesting
just about the controversy but also about
the changes that are occurring in the
world.
>> Right, [CROSSTALK] I noticed them
there.
Yeah, some of the troubles of the modern
age huh?
>> Right.
Exactly.
>> Mm-hm.
>> Wars, chronic illness increases in, in
abuse in hate crimes.
>> Mm-hm.
>> There's a lot of changes that are
occurring around
the world and there's a lot of protest
[CROSSTALK] both currently.
>> Okay.
>> And this is brought up in the book.
>> Okay.
And what is the discussion question for
this module?
>> Well the discussion question is really
focused on one of the controversies within
the
book and that is, when science conflicts
with religion or even politics, who wins
out?
Like some of the concepts with regard to
global warming.
>> Mm-hm.
>> When, and the same thing is true in
chronic pain.
>> Okay.
>> The biomedical model is proposed as the
solution to chronic pain.
>> okay.
>> When in actuality, doesn't work very
well.
>> Okay.
>> And so, both the story in the book and
the MOOC parallel this controversy.
>> And, is that what we'll be looking at
in this first module?
>> yes, right.
The, the idea, or the module is entitled,
The Dilemma of Chronic Pain.
>> Okay, great.
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