Q.

In your study, what was

the impact of faithful church
teaching in maintaining Common
law in a nation? Did you find
that as churches moved away from
faithful preaching. as American
churches have done, that there is
less interest in Common Law
within a nation?
A. Yes, very definitely.
Particularly in what are now
England, Wales and Scotland.
Ireland, however, is an unusual
and a very interesting case.
When Patrick, who was a
Bible-believing Briton,
preached the Gospel in
Ireland in A.D. 430 - he
got the people committed
to what was an ancient
presbyterian system of
church government.
They had a high respect
for the Moral Law, the Ten
Commandments.
Patrick then got the
Irish Druids, when they
were converted, to
expound to him the whole of their
Common Law {which goes back
aJrnQs.LtQ. 15QO. lkCL.IIDs ...
included a system that Americans
would recognize as
qualified-franchise republican
government -- under
contemporaneous local kings as
multiple regional governors.
St. Patrick saw to it that all of
this got written down. He then
eliminated those few elements
thereof that were irreconcilable
with Christianity. Next, he
incorporated the bulk of it -- being
thoroughly compatible with
Scripture -- into christianized Irish
Common Law.
Of course, this raises the whole
question as to how the ancient
Irish first obtained their Common
Law. It seems to me they learned
much of it from Hebrew traders
hauling gold from Irelandto
Palestine.
In pre-Christian days, Ireland
produced more gold than perhaps
all other countries in the world
put together. Very possibly,
much of the "gold which ended up
on Solomon's temple, had been
hauled there from Ireland.
In America, to the extent.that
churches faithfully preached the
in the Population Conference held
several months -ago in Cairo,
Egypt, it was the Muslims who
upheld the pro-life position while
the West opposed such a stand.
A. The strength of Islam is that
it is a monolithic religious system.
It insufficiently distinguishes
between the mosque on the one
hand and the Moslem state on the
other. It does, however, insist
that the two must go hand in hand
-- in tandem.
If one becomes a
Interview
with
Moslem, it is
understood
immediately that
one's religion is to
Dr. Nigel Lee
be intertwined with
one's politics.
Islam would claim
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to be theonomic --
in an unBiblical,
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non-Christian
sense. That,
who Ie counsel of God -- including
the Ten Commandments and its
application in art, science and
politics -- (he cOUtCsystem WaS- .
definitely further influenced for
good. Yet America had the
system of Common Law anyway.
One should just read American
coun cases from approximately
1750 onward, right down to the
Trinity case at the end of the
nineteenth century. Judges then
really did attempt to underline the
fact that America was indeed a
Christian nation.
Britain and America were two
of the last nations in the world to
go into decline in this mauer. Yet
that decline has been pretty much
confined to the twentieth century.
However, the rot has now gone
very far.
Q. It is interesting to note that
. without doubt, is its
strength.
Q. You had an interesting
experience in "South Africa
. recently;afterthedeath-ofyour
father.
A. Injuly, 1994, my phone
rang in AUStralia. My parents'
neighbor was calling to give me
some sad news. She said: "I've
got very bad news for you, Nigel.
Your mom [in her mid-80s] has
been rushed to the hospital. She
is very sick. You had better
come."
Can you believe it? Just
twenty-four hours later, the police
called me from the same town.
They said that my dad [also in his
mid-80s] had right then been
discovered almost dead in a pool
of blood behind the front door.
Some robber had beaten him up.
As I myself was then unwell,
22 THE COUNSEL of Chalcedon April, 1995
and had already made my travel
plans to come to America to speak
here in Atlanta during September,
I decided not to attend my father's
funeral. So I left Australia as
planned in September, and came
here to Atlanta (by way of South
Aftica).
When I arrived in South Afiica,
I thanked the police for all the
wonderful ways in which they had
helped in the investigation of my
dad's murder. I was quite
stunned to hear that they had
actually caught a suspect. I was
funher amazed to learn that the
suspect had made a deposition
that he and he alone had killed my
father.
To my funher amazement, I
learned that the suspect was being
held in a small country jail and
had not yet gone to trial. That jail
was just forty miles from where
my father was murdered, and in
the same small town where my
mother was hospitalized. In
God's providence, that was highly
remarkable.
I visited the suspect twice, after
having visited my mom in the
hospital. The police were very
anxious that I visit him. He had
the tight, however, to refuse to
receive me. Fortunately, he
agreed to talk to me. So I went
into the jail, and had the great joy
of seeing us both go down on our
knees -- as two wicked sinners
who both deserved to go to hell.
I told him: "If you die without
repentance, you will spend
eternity in hell. If you repent, I
can assure you that my father who
is a Christian will be the first
person to welcome you in heaven.
But understand this, whether or
not you accept Christ, I still
believe that if found guilty you
should receive the death penalty."
I prayed first, to ask for
forgiveness of my own fresh sins.
Then you should have heard this
guy next to me stan praying. It
went something like this: "0 God,
I am a wicked sinner -- do not let
Satan destroy me!" Then he went
on to pray about the cross, and
asked Chlist to forgive him.
It certainly came through to me
as a Christian prayer. TIlis was in
the presence of four policemen
who stopped their work, put
down their pens, and listened in
rapt attention to my conversation
with this fellow.
Q. Sin has consequences.
A. Yes, it does. I then urged
hinI: "Whether you get the death
penalty soon or whether youl1
spend the next twenty years or the
rest of your life in jail, you should
now evangelize everyone in the jail
that you can. Tell them about
this great] esus, Whom you have
professed to be your Savior!"
He then prayed for me, that
God would bless me in my further
trips to Britain and America, and
'that God would use me
powerfully. That was quite an
experience.
Q. Where can interested
readers obtain a copy of your
thesis?
A. It is not yet in plint. It
has, however, been submitted in
publishable fOlm. Those
interested shoul d contact
Whitefield Theological Seminary,
P.O. Box 6321, Lakeland, Florida
33807. Hopefully, it can be
published.
I have spent eight years, on
and off, writing this. I have had
the complete use of many
libraries, including that of the
Supreme Coun of Queensland. It
has massive resources --
panicularly in the areas of ancient
hish, ancient Icelandic, ancient
Celtic, and ancient Anglo-Saxon
documents. It also has much
other material (such as even a
facsimile of William the
Conqueror's Domesday Book.)
Much research has gone into
this mammoth project. This
really was pioneer work --
particular that portion of it dealing
with pre-Saxon times.
Q. What was most gratifying
in your research?
A. I would say the
strengthening of my conviction
that God has not left Himself
without witness. Basically what
God revealed to Adam in the
garden before the fall, He
continued to reveal after the fall.
This is clearly evident especially in
ancient Ireland and ancient
Britain, and in the countries that
came forth from those British Isles.
God has Wlitten His Holy Law
on the hearts also of even the
heathen. They are completely
without excuse. This is why we
are going to win this battle --
because God is keeping the
memory of these things constantly,
intact.
As the nations of the world
depart from this standard -- and
sadly even the English-speaking
nations are now so doing -- God
will come against them in
judgment. Yet in the end, they
will be propelled to get down on
their knees -- like the
previously-mentioned man in the
jail -- after a series of Wl'athful
visitations from on high. Then
they will go back to the Rock from
which they were hewn.
Q. You have great hope in the
future of Common Law?
A. Absolutely. There is really
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no other system like it. It is yet
destined to dominate the world.
It is upheld by the Constitution
of the United States, which is by
far the most influential nation on
the face of this great planet Earth.
Furthermore, also the biggest
country in the world after Russia,
is by far the largest Common Law
country in the whole world.
That is because approximately
half of Antarctica belongs to that
country - Australia. Indeed, well
over half of Antarctica is under
Common Law, being controlled
by Australia and New Zealand
within Austraha.
Q. What are some other
projects on which you are
currently working?
A. I have another huge
dissertation completed, but not
yet ready for publication. It is
against the test tube baby
program, which I believe
transgresses the law of God at a
number of points.
I also have a couple of other
manuscripts, one on paleontology
and the other on creation verSUs
cataclysm. Further, I have
completed several works on
baptism; on the question of
rebaptism; and on the status of
those that die in early infancy.
I also have a manuscript on
paedocommunion. Since
submitting it for a doctorate
several years ago, I have expanded
it to three times its original length,
and plan to work on it yet further.
I hope to get that into print
sometime. This is a real "live
wire" issue, panicularly here in
America. No doubt I will keep on
writing until I die.
Q. Thank you very much for
this interview, Dr. Lee . .Q
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