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Posted by: Bonita | August 10, 2014
My Personal Experience with Nu Skin The Company
with an Ulterior Motive
My phone rang. It was an unknown number.
Bonita here, I greeted as I picked up the phone.
Hi Bonita, this is Patricia!
Patricia had been my college classmate back at Ateneo. We worked on our senior year project
together, doing an operational and marketing project as a requirement for graduation. I have also
not been in contact with her for the last 12 years, only managing to see her at Starbucks last year.
Hi Patricia, I answered. How are you?
I know its been awhile since Ive been in contact, she said. Do you have time to talk?
Sure, I have only a few minutes, I said. Whats up?
Yeah, its just that I thought about you recently and I wondered if it would be good to catch up? Its just
coincidental since I saw you last time in Starbucks and we go to CCF together, she said. CCF stood for
Christs Christian Fellowship, one of the largest and most aggressive Protestant church in Manila
today.
Sure, that would be nice, I said.
How about Monday or Wednesday? she asked.
I think Wednesday would be okay. 5:30pm? I answered.
Sure, she said. Wednesday it is then at 5:30 pm. At Starbucks where we last saw each other.
I thought nothing of it then though found it weird when she texted me a confirmation of our
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I thought nothing of it then though found it weird when she texted me a confirmation of our
meeting.
Hi Bonita! Patricia here. See you Wednesday next week, the 6th, 5:30 pm at Starbucks!
Thanks and see you! I replied.
As I was busy with work, I thought nothing of it until on Wednesday morning when she texted
me to remind me about the meeting. People can be organized, and it was a breath of fresh air to
people who are less so.
But when I saw her on Wednesday, I came out of the catch up a little bit disappointed. Why? For
the following reasons:
1) She caught up with me not much that she wanted to know how I was, but instead, to tell me
about a wonderful entrepreneurial opportunity that was available, which turned out to be Nu
Skin.
After asking me about how I was after college, and how I met my husband, Patricia then shared
with me that she was working for a group called Nu Skin, and how interesting it could be if I
wanted to have more income.
I know youre an entrepreneur, Bonita. she said. My group Nu Skin offers you the opportunity to set
up your own business, make additional income. Look at me, its enough for me to quit my job and do it full
time.
As an actual entrepreneur, I wondered what she meant. According to the Merriam Webster
dictionary, an entrepreneur is a person who organizes and operates a business or businesses, taking on
greater than normal financial risks in order to do so.
Personally, I feel that an entrepreneur develops the product or service, and sells it to somebody
else. With Nu Skin, you are selling somebody elses products and services. In my book, we call
these people AGENTS, NOT an entrepreneur.
She then shared with me how multi-level marketing works: Basically, you recruit people Nu
Skin calls them distributors and you ask them to sell Nu Skin products with you, with you the
recruiter getting a cut on their sales.
The long compensation plan is detailed here: Nu Skin Compensation Plan
(http://www.nuskin.com/global/library/pdf/compensation_plan_details.pdf).
If you have no patience to read the 5-page document, let me summarize it for you. To make the
long story short, if you are successfully recruited as an Agent cum Distributor, you will get
products at a whopping 30% discount. For any recruit you have at the first level, you will be given
10% commission for every sale they have. On the second to the sixth level, 5% commission.
(https://namelessintaipei.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/nuskin.jpg)
Its basically a pyramid scheme where you profit from people below you. Depending on how
your recruits perform, your profit can reach millions, or so Patricia said if youve reached the
Blue Diamond level.
Long story short, Nu Skin employs GREED to recruit people who can recruit people to sell their
products. Products that are mostly for weight loss or for stem cell therapy, innovative
products that they say works but require you to try out first all at cheap packages of at least Php
24,000 for a month, and Php 75,000 for a program. Their weight loss program for example lasts for
90 days and costs Php 75,000, 6.25x the monthly wage of an average Filipino.
Honestly, I felt a bit suckered. Even more so when I realized the whole meetup was a ploy to
get me to listen to Nu Skins sales pitch.
I felt even worse when I came home and talked to Ben, my husbands cousin, who was also a new
Nu Skin recruit, and hence, was more forthcoming on the many sales strategies Nu Skin
distributors employ to find new recruits.
Ben told me that distributors were provided a script on how to get people to meet up with Nu
Skin agents.
They give you a script which tells you how to word the call, he shared. First, you have to smile while
making the call because people can hear your smile. Then you should keep the call short less than 5
minutes and the purpose of the call is to get the person to meet with you.
We arent allowed to say what organization we work for, he said. Just say youre part of a group and
tell them youd like to catch up. Then give them two options of date/time to meet up. Dont ask them when
they are free. Ask them a choice of two Day 1 or Day 2. That way, they would most likely to say yes.
I was dumbfounded as I heard Ben share with me what Nu Skin has been telling their agents.
Basically, the whole catch up was to get me to meet up so they can talk about their organization!
If Nu Skin wasnt such a bad word, my husband said, Then why do they even advise their agents to
If Nu Skin wasnt such a bad word, my husband said, Then why do they even advise their agents to
NOT mention their organizations name? If you were so proud of your company, why not let other people
know until youve fallen into their trap?
Good point.
I myself am proud of my own company, and I want all my other employees to be proud of their
work too. I would never advise my staff to dodge the question on where they worked if asked.
It saddens me that my college friend cannot even declare wh2)ere she worked until I was there
having coffee in front of her.
Its to stop close minded people from judging you immediately, Ben said.
Well, I can tell people where I worked and close-minded people will NOT judge me. So what does
that make of Nu Skin?
2) The purpose of the meeting was to invite me to their talk in Octagon Building in Ortigas.
And the talk was full of misleading marketing messages!
One of our members, Mr. Dennis Ong, is giving a talk this Thursday, Patricia invited me. You should
listen to him. He used to import PC hardware before computers became popular, and made a pretty buck.
But now hes doing Nu Skin and makes millions a month. As you can see, now that hes a millionaire, hes
not doing this for money but instead because he likes what he does.
The pitch is that Nu Skin provides you with passive income, a lot more money than if youve
worked on a traditional brick and mortar business. Honestly, I was curious I wanted to see what
type of organization can get my college friend to ask long-lost friends out for coffee to share them
wonderful opportunities to make even more money. I wanted to check out the organization that
seems to have an ulterior motive in every step.
I attended the talk.
The talk first dealt with how Nu Skin Products were in the forefront of technology, with
breakthrough products that help with anti-aging and weight loss. You want to have a stable partner
who can give you the products that works, the speaker said. With Nu Skin as a partner, youll have a
low cost of entry and high profit potential as we can give you products you can sell, and people will need.
(https://namelessintaipei.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/unnamed.jpg)
I dont have a problem with this. Personally, I believe that Nu Skin products arent bogus. You
cant be a listed company in the US if you market fake products. However, I do believe that the
company misleads their recruits.
Case in point, at last Thursdays presentation, they showed a Discovery Channel clip as an
introduction to their product. The Discovery Channel showed how people were much worried
about aging and many scientists were developing medicine to find the fountain of youth.
Heres the clincher: The Discovery Channel segment did NOT even mention Nu Skin or its
products! It merely talked about anti-aging and the search for the fountain of youth.
But immediately after the clip, the presenter showed a Flash presentation of Nu Skins anti-aging
product. As if the two clips were one and the same, and the scientists of the Discovery Channel
were endorsing Nu Skin and their products!
I was flabbergasted. This is truly misleading marketing!
Then Dennis Ong came in and talked about his background. He first started his talk saying he
wasnt in here for the money, and that he has more than enough to already live a comfortable life.
But then he shared that he is a graduate of architecture and how he decided to go to business
because architects dont make a lot of money.
(https://namelessintaipei.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/photo-1.jpg)
Wah, Nu Skin truly is a company full of conflicting statements. First you say you dont care about
money, then you tell me that Greed is good. Ano ba talaga, pare?
Then he talked about the principles of Robert Kiyosaki, author of Rich Dad Poor Dad. Paraphrasing
Kiyosakis book and seemingly convincing everyone that these ideas were his own, he briefly
talked about the principles of asset vs. liability, and how people should count on passive income if
they want to be wealthy and retire before the age of 65.
While talking, I was observing how in a room of 70, half of the room consisted of old agents who
would excitingly answer every one of Ongs questions.
Do you want to be rich?
YES!
Do you want to retire before the age of 65?
YES!
I felt it was weird that the whole setup was like a semi brainwashing process. Put enough
monkeys in the room, and the non-primates would think theyre monkeys too.
I also found it funny how new recruits were chaperoned to sit in front while their recruiters sat at
the back. The whole set-up was to make more converts.
Personally, I felt Ong spewed a lot of financial common sense that was mostly taken from the
book Rich Dad Poor Dad. Taken apart, it made sense, but if you really thought about it, a lot of
the things Ong said was misleading.
For example, he stressed the importance of having passive income instead of just putting your
money in the bank where its being killed slowly but surely by inflation. To have a passive income
of Php 50,000-100,000, you have to have a savings account of Php 30 million. This is WRONG.
You would need more than Php 30million to get an income of Php 100,000. Bank rate for savings
You would need more than Php 30million to get an income of Php 100,000. Bank rate for savings
is just 1.25% per annum. So to get Php 100K monthly income, youd need a savings account of
Php 96 million!
Two, I dont understand how passive income is related to multi-level marketing. Passive income
makes you money night and day, non-stop. Its like rent once you lease out your place, your
tenant gives you his monthly rent whether he likes it or not. Even if he doesnt stay in the place,
he still has to pay you. Same goes with borrowing money from the bank. Night or day, you still
have to pay for the interest.
Its radically different from multi-level marketing!
If people from your downline dont work, you get no income if you stop working. You and the
people below you would have to continuously work in order for you to get money. Once you and
they stop, the money also stops. And once it stops, unlike property which you can sell at a capital
gain, you are left with nothing except your savings.
This is not passive income, my dear. Which is why I am unsure why Ong would link passive
income to a multi-level marketing scheme, except maybe to dupe more people in signing up.
Two, he also talked about how Nu Skin gave him financial freedom.Because Nu Skin can be done
full or part-time, agents can control their own time.
After I got married, my priorities shifted. Ong shared. All of a sudden, I wanted to stay with my
family. Working hard for another corporation would not have given me the time or money to do what I want
which is to spend time with family.
This concept is once again true.
Working part- or flexi-time gives you more time for family and for other endeavors. But like any
other job, you dont work, you dont eat. So how hard you work recruiting for Nu Skin will
determine your income. The more you work, the more money youll have. So depending on how
greedy you are, there is a big chance youd be out schilling for Nu Skin products with your
friends instead of spending time with your family!
Ong continues on and on about misleading principles on how to get rich and how Nu Skin might
hold the key to being wealthy. The talk I think was 85% recruitment and 15% about the product!
Mercifully, we finally end the talk by spending the last 10 minutes talking about the
three products Nu Skin is endorsing that day The TR90 Weightloss Program, the R2 and the
Galvanic Spa, all of which was sold at a cheap wholesale price of Php 68,000 to Php 77,500. But a
starter kit would only cost you Php 24,000-30,000. Ong said for any questions, our distributor
friends would talk to us more about these products, then signalling the end of the talk and the
start of my one-on-one session with Patricia.
Again, I am amazed on how effective Nu Skins marketing can be. First, they bring you to the talk
to fire up your greed, then funnel you back to your distributor/recruiter who will share with you
how you too can be part of the Nu Skin family and make thousands and millions of bucks,
depending on how you worked.
3) The one-on-one session invites you to buy Nu Skin products for yourself, or to recruit
people you to know to buy the products.
You have to use it so you can believe, Patricia cajoled.
Im afraid Im not your target market Pat, I quipped pointing out to my 50 kilo frame. I am not in
need of weight loss, and I am too young for stem cell therapy of r2. My father has also blessed me with very
good skin. I have never been to a dermatologist in my entire life and have no need for a Galvanic Spa kit.
But you know of people who can use it, no?
I do, but I dont feel confident to offer them products as I am not a doctor, I answered. Personally, I
dont like to offer or endorse products I have never used, or to do so for personal gain. It makes
me feel as if I am using my connections for profit and I dont feel very comfortable about that.
If you can suggest to me 5 names of those who can potentially take advantage of these products
Patricia said.
I then asked how many Blue Diamonds the highest rank at Nu Skin the Philippines has.
15, Patricia answered. Dennis and his wife are two of them.
I nodded my head. Nu Skin has been in the Philippines for the last 15 years. Dennis has been at
Nu Skin for 15 years. As Blue Diamonds make Php 2.2 million per month, that gives the Ong
family at least Php 4.4 million of income if the statistics were true.
Dennis and his wife must be gazillionaires, I laughed. Why is he still working at Nu Skin?
Oh he stopped for three years because him and his wife wanted to make a baby, Patricia explained. But
stopping, well, you know what it does and yes, after AgeLoc came out, Dennis decided it was too good an
opportunity to pass up.
People work to have money. Once they have enough money, they stop. The Ong family, bless
their heart, are more hardworking. Or just greedy. Maybe its both. My theory is, like what Ive
said, multi-level marketing is not really passive income so once you stop, money comes in trickles
and you have to get back to the horse again.
So how long have you been doing this? I asked.
Oh a year Patricia answered.
Later, I learned from Ben that Patricia was already an officer and was doing Nu Skin for more
than a year. Maybe even a couple. Its disappointing how an organization somehow makes their
agents lie through their teeth.
To summarize, I have nothing against Nu Skin. I will not be like these bloggers who have
To summarize, I have nothing against Nu Skin. I will not be like these bloggers who have
written blog posts against Nu Skin distributors lambasting them. Scathing articles can be found
here (http://preciousmaiquez.wordpress.com/2011/11/29/doing-research-beware-of-a-certain-toby-
tangsoc/), here (http://nheyzhel8916.blogspot.com/2008/12/guys-beware-of-this-nametoby-
tangsoc.html), and here (http://bewareofnuskin.blogspot.com/2008/10/toby-tangsoc-scumbag-
behind-nse.html). But personally, if theres smoke, theres fire and the fact that Nu Skin tells
their distributors not to mention that theyre from Nu Skin is smoke for me.
Now again, let me repeat. I have nothing against Nu Skin.
But I do have an issue with the way they recruit new distributors.
Or the way that they mislead people into thinking this is an easy get-rich scheme.
Or the fact that they misconstrue facts with bullshit. I still cant get over the fact that theyve
linked the Discovery Channel clip with their product even though the clip didnt even mention
Nu Skin and their product!
Or that they try to blind people with greed. If your product is really good, you dont have to give
people a multi-level compensation scheme to market your products. Your products will sell
themselves for you. So if this is the case, why emphasize money and greed instead of product
knowledge in your training sessions?
In short, I dont like that Nu Skin is a company with an ulterior motive. It gave me a bad taste in
my mouth, and I felt bad hearing how experienced salespeople have to come up with misleading
facts to sell their products. I think it is unethical AND wrong.
So the next time somebody invites you for coffee, be wary. Nothing is an innocent as it seems.
To Nu Skin leaders and distributors, please be more forthcoming with your customers. We are not
idiots and we dont like to be misled. Your products, if they are really good, should speak for
themselves. Please dont give me a get-rich scheme because you and I both know there is no easy
way to get rich. You still have to work your ass off to get somewhere. And please stop with the
ulterior motives. If we do discover youre a Nu Skin distributor, then great! But please, please
dont ask us for coffee to catch up and then give us a pitch for Nu Skin.
You are better than that. Please do better than that.
For the rest of you readers, I think its better to watch this super short clip
(http://www.entrepreneur.co.za/this-billionaires-definition-of-success-will-surprise-you/) by
billionaire John Paul Dejoria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_DeJoria) on what success is
than to go to a Nu Skin pow-wow.
Happy weekend guys!
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This article summarizes up my thoughts on MLM:
http://www.timothytiah.com/2014/08/08/what-everyone-needs-to-know-about-mlm/
(http://www.timothytiah.com/2014/08/08/what-everyone-needs-to-know-about-mlm/)
By: Bonita on August 12, 2014
at 10:19 pm
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At last! Someone with a logical mind, the ability to write well, and the patience to tell the
entire story!
This is an excellent blow-by-blow account of what goes on before, during, and after a B.O.M.
(Business Opportunity Meeting)
I was a Nuskin distributor long ago, built a group of downlines, and made a bit of money
(emphasis on a bit).
The company is rock-solid. Some of the products are indeed fantastic and worth the premium
price.
Its the lousy distributors that mess up the companys reputation.
And it seems that the group called Synergy (the group Dennis Ong is a part of) hasnt changed
their recruitment style. The scripts and strategies remain the same even after over a decade.
I met some good friends in that group. But I also met a whole bunch of fake friends. Ugh!
Those were the disgusting ones.
Some facts:
About these ads
(http://en.wordpress.com/about-these-ads/)
Some facts:
Dennis is truly a brilliant entrepreneur. I estimate that hes making over 1.2M pesos per
month.
He and his wife are excellent salespeople, they could sell ice to eskimos, as the cliche goes.
Sandy, the person who recruited Dennis, is exceptionally shrewd. He has made well over
$2M (dollars!) from Nuskin alone, but he is also a smart investor in real estate, stocks, and
others, so he has probably multiplied that million dollars a few times over.
The Nuskin MLM structure can truly be considered a source of passive income. Im not
kidding!
It can be a source of passive income because
_ the upline Executive (thats what they call distributors who consistently hit the sales quota)
gets at least 5% commission from their downlines product sales.
_ Sandy has (in my estimate) over 30,000 distributors under him worldwide.
_ 30,000 multiplied by a small amount, say $20, per month is an enormous sales volume.
_ Multiply the sales volume by 5%, and you get his monthly income.
_ That doesnt include all the other cash bonuses and extra perks (which include all-expense
paid trips to exotic destinations).
_ To make it totally passive, Sandy can set up an automatic ordering system to purchase
products to hit his monthly quota of $3000 (only 10% of his income).
_ At a specified day of the month, commissions are deposited directly to his bank account.
_ Zero effort
But! A big BUT! One has to work as hard as Sandy (or Dennis) did, and be as dedicated as he
is. I saw how they built his team of distributors. It did not come easy at all! Hes just
harvesting the fruits of his labor.
I did not make it because I was not as dedicated as they were. Not even 10% of their level of
dedication.
Those dudes who made were willing to personally apply make-up, facial masks, and other
creams on senior citizens just to demo their products and sell a whole bunch of them
afterwards.
I quit because I did not like the person I was becoming. I became money-centered. Every time I
see a human being, I mentally calculate how much I can earn from him/her before approching.
I did not care if the sneaky tactics cause them to avoid me in social gatherings.
Friends, relatives, strangers, former enemies, it didnt matter. I would approach them all and
ignore the fact that I could piss them off.
That was not the person I want to be. So I gave it all up.
And looking back, it was one of the best decisions of my life.
If you want to know some specific insider details, ask away and I shall respond with what I
remember.
Its about time these shameful creatures get exposed.
Warning! Despite saying no to your friend, if you can still consider her one, expect a follow-
up call sometime soon.
By: Oldskin on August 27, 2014
at 1:13 am
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Reblogged this on Drei alquiros (http://dreialquiros.wordpress.com/2014/08/27/my-personal-
experience-with-nu-skin-the-company-with-an-ulterior-motive/) and commented:
Clap clap on this blog. I totally agree with this!
For this, your friend wanted to catch up. In my girl friends experience her friend wanted to
offer her a contractual job in their company. She even said that she got her resume somewhere
and heard that she was open to employment opportunities. AGK!
To know now that they actually have a f*cking script is just CRAZY!!!
By: dreialquiros on August 27, 2014
at 2:08 pm
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The same marketing strategh with USANA and ROYALE. Your experience, from a college
friend who wants to catch up until the marketing invite or talk from their upline, I also
experienced that. It is just that I was not interested so they did not get me as their new recruit.
:p
By: Jasmine on August 27, 2014
at 2:43 pm
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I encountered the same experience with my bestfriend when I was in grade school. She was all
nice and all yet she lured me into catching up turned marketing blah blah of the long gone GFI
and other networking that I forgot who apparently sells fertilizers! Why on earth would I even
buy fertilizers for plants.. Tsk!
By: Chel Nava on August 27, 2014
at 4:09 pm
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Most MLM are like this. They would spill out on you all the greediness and sometimes its so
frustrating to see that ordinary people are attracted into this kind of business. I am a user of
MLM products (supplements to be specific) but I can attest that the products are really
effective and good. What I dont agree about is the culture they are creating inside the
company and the kind of people who have become millionaires who dont have the ethics of
how to do a Real Sales and Marketing strategy. They will lure you into believing that it is easy
work and easy money when it doesnt really work that way. Hope a lot more people will come
into their senses that if u want to be rich, as you do not want to be taken advantage then do not
take advantage of others.
By: OpenmindedMum on August 27, 2014
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Is it USANA?
By: Waylon on August 28, 2014
at 1:01 am
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You brought me back to 2006-ish Pharmanex was how they brand it last time around. The
building was in Ortigas, Ericson tower/building to be exact.
I had a great time reading your blog!
By: Anonymous on August 27, 2014
at 8:16 pm
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This is true! I also have a friend from Ateneo who invited me to join the Nu Skin! She also did
the same thing to me and my boyfriend.
She first talked to me on facebook. She asked me to meet her up somewhere in katipunan. It
started from there. She and her partner discussed about Nu Skin. It sounded like a good
source of income.
She scheduled me again for another meeting to give her the membership fee (13,500). I
received the products and some forms. After a week, my boyfriend and I decided to quit
because we felt something wasnt right. So, i called her up that we had to quit. We talked for
like 2 hours, she was trying to convince me not to leave the group. But, i still insisted that we
had to. My friend told me to meet her in Octagon Ortigas so she can give me back the money.
When we went there, i was surprised. It is indeed the building of Nu Skin. She was really up
to something. Before she gave the money, she asked me to go to the seminar or talk about the
Nu skin. I said no. Ive made up my mind.
We were really pissed off because they were like forcing us to stay.
And now, ive read your blog. I am now so thankful that we left that Nu Skin thing.
By: Lala on August 27, 2014
at 10:38 pm
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Yeap. My experiences were with NuSkin & Usana. Having studied business and sales, I
already had an inkling of their strategies for selling, at the same time became a keen target for
them since I have the skills.
One thing that I didnt like in particular with Usana, for instance, is the constant display of
wealth or materialism esp in social media. I told my friend I am never the one to boast nor
be active on social media just for that purpose. I was told it doesnt matter bec there are part-
timers who dont even post any products on their fbs or their rewards are partners, but of
course compared to those who do, they dont earn as much, which wasnt told to me but based
on my observation. I didnt buy it.
Also, in Usana, one of their top earners who started the group Xtreme advised on what to do
about skeptic friends / connections, her answer was in the lines of, if they dont believe in
you, why waste time on them, move on to the next one. That left a bad taste, thinking that
that was exactly what my high school friend did. After having pitched to me and me declining
politely, she just disappeared, bec I am no use for her profitability. I dont really know where
they get the gall to risk goodwill of relationships. Im also not too keen with their hand sign,
its like an upper westside hood/gang sign, that you have to do in every picture and also the
need to always post flashy cars that are not really theirs but their coaches or uplines just to
have this facade of wealth.
My girlfriend in particular got a bit pissed off bec one of the dudes she met at Usana used her
bikini pic (she was invited to a pool party by her Usana friends, afterwards she realized it was
a ploy for her to join) in his profile without her permission. The pic collage was supposed to
show what a good life said Usana dude has. He had his picture in the center in a race car that
isnt his and other pics that included basically, girls, cars, vacation, family. She even barely
knew the guy! Hes lucky my girlfriend told me to ignore him.
70+% of it is smoke and mirrors I tell you.
By: Jed on August 27, 2014
at 10:54 pm
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Interesting read. Ive also received calls from my friends before, never reached the part where
they introduce me to Nu Skin, but its most probably the same company since they asked me
to go to Octagon but I declined. Theres also a part in their script where they flatter their
potential recruits. They told me they remembered me because I was funny and they thought it
would be fun to work with me. Pretty persuasive!
By: Baldo on August 28, 2014
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Hi.
I feel for you on sharing your experience on being invited to join your friends business the
wrong way. This is the reason mlm should be professionalized.
First of, Ive been distributing Nuskin & Pharmanex products since 2003. Though i do not
belong on the high earning distributors/executives of the company, I have earned substantially
on retail profits (buying & selling) and commissionable bonuses from the company as i
continue to do business with them.
After reading your entry I can see that your friend could have qualified you better to see if the
Nuskin opportunity was for you. This is the qualification process
1. Set up an appointment with the candidate and make it clear that the meeting is to talk about
business.
This part is mostly mixed with catching up. I personally dont like to mix business and
pleasure. If the meeting was about catchup, there should be no business talk. Business
transactions should be done in the office.
2. Present the business and show facts only, no hype.
Sit the candidate down on the Opportunity Meeting and let the candidate decide based on
what he/she understands of it. If she gets it, she gets it. Smart people dont need to be
convinced.
The discovery episode on epigenetics highlighted that companies are now capitalizing on gene
science to make better products. Though Discovery Channel Asia is not allowed to endorse
any brand or company, it is clear that Nuskins scientists, Dr Joe Chang and the Scientists in
LifegenTech were among the people that were interviewed. This is no surprise because the
business of capitalizing epigenetics has been pioneered by Nuskin. Other companies are also
starting to venture on this platform
3. After the presentation, kindly ask if the candidate wants to proceed.
If not interested, say your goodbyes.
If not interested but willing to refer, get recommendations.
If interested but need to think about it, set another meeting to discuss.
If interested and can start immediately, have them purchase a startup package and schedule
for training.
Like all opportunities, you can decline or accept.
Just a clarification on the GREED issue. There is nothing wrong wiith having money. The more
money you have, the more options you can do with it.
Options such as give more provision to your family, send your kids to a better school, give
more to the church, live life with less hassle, travel the world and see the world. The decision
to do good with more money solely lies on the person receiving the money. It is of the person
and not of the business that puts it to action. I have known people that became bad, arrogant
and self centered having more money. I also know a lot more people that are humble, more
patient and live purposeful lives having more money.
In my opinion, any entrepreneur who claims he is not desiring more money leading him to be
starting a business is a hypocrite. It goes back to the core idea that having money is not wrong
but loving it/ desiring more of it is.
I have been working with Mr Ong for the longest time and I could say he is but full of timely
wisdom in business. He and his wife are very private and humble people and based on what
you have said on this post, they communicate a CLEAR message that when you stop thinking
about money, you start to focus on things that are more important in life (whether it be
spiritual, family, etc)
Also on the 30M bank fixed deposit to earn 50-100k? If you took it literally, then you have
missed a very important message he was sharing. He highlighted this to say that it is more
difficult to SAVE 30M vs finding executives to build for a passive income stream. 30M might
be during his younger years bec he is now turning 40s.
The MLM business model is indeed an asset that which you build actively for the 3-5 years, it
will provide you with a passive, permanent source of income. This is not coming from me, but
from Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump. So its your words against theirs.
Lastly, Id like to point out that Entrepreneurs are not limited to START-UPS.
If you run a water purifying shop, who supplies you the water? the equipment? Given your
definition above, you are an AGENT of NAWASA.
If you run a mini grocery store, what products are you selling? Given your definition, you are
an AGENT of P&G, UNILIEVER, URC and JACK&JILL.
If you have a restaurant and sell chicken from Magnolia serve it and named your restaurant
Maxxs, arent you also an AGENT of Magnolia??
My point is this, There is no difference if your an agent, self-manufacturing or referring
individual. To be an entrepreneur is to be able to SPOT opportunities and create business in a
form of partnership, proprietory or corporation.
Business is a matter of understanding how everything is put together as 1 entity. Nuskin is a
SUPPLIER, I use their products to cater to customers on whatever means possible on a
professional level (that means, no back-biting, no underplay, no exaggerations, no false
claims), I earn profit from every sale. Nuskin gives me a commissionable bonus for ordering
by volumes.
********************
Network Marketing (MLM) is here to stay so rather than fighting it, seek to understand it
better. Because like it or not, marketing thru networks is and become the game changer of
ANY business.
By: Tom on August 28, 2014
at 8:15 am
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Exactly same points I have on Nu Skin. And I think they usually stay and get their prospect
recruits in Starbucks. I was almost invited by someone too and good thing I learned right
away that hes from Nu Skin. I declined in every attempt he made to invite me. Haha
By: bunsongpayat on August 28, 2014
at 10:23 am
Reply
I like how you backed up your article with very sound arguments. good use of logic! Perfect
way on how to mix both your opinion and fact. Keep it up!
By: Trish on August 28, 2014
at 10:32 am
Reply
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