Muhammad Umer (From Islamabad)

Student at COMSATS Institute of Information Technology,

M.A.Jinnah Campus, Lahore
4th Sep 2014

EXISTENCE VS CREATION OF GOD
I had too much debate on this topic since about 6 hours with an atheists
Physics Professor and from this debate i got too much believe in GOD even
more than my past life .I feel pleasure if you guyz take interest in this
topic and i give you some valid observations and conclusions which i
searched and observed logically NOT religiously
First of all this question is illogical becoz GOD exists.All of creation goes
back to the Creator Who created all things. No one created Him; He
created everything other than Himself. This is what makes sense and is
logical.
And according to science God has no need to have been created, since He
exists either outside time (where cause and effect do not operate) or
within multiple dimensions of time (such that there is no beginning of
God's plane of time). Hence God is eternal, having never been created.
Although it is possible that the universe itself is eternal, eliminating the
need for its creation, observational evidence contradicts this hypothesis,
since the universe began to exist a finite ~13.8 billion years ago. The only
possible escape for the atheist is the invention of a kind of super universe,
which can never be confirmed experimentally (hence it is metaphysical
in nature, and not scientific).
OK if let GOD is created by some other source then it means that that
unknown source is even more powerful than GOD then why this
"unknown" source produce GOD this "unknown" source can have powers to
control the universe alone and hence if this source let suppose who
produced that source and so on............ then all the system collapse and if
there are too many gods in this universe then WHY all of them are
confined to a SINGLE universe ? In this case they make there own
universes and can rule better But when thinking changes your mind
that's philosophy , when facts changes your mind that's science and when
GOD changes your mind that's Faith and when science founds no answer
we must believe in Faith .......!!!
Even the Big Bang theory does not explain where the initial energy came
from. It was already there and also theory does not explain why space is
expanding. It was already expanding.
Now if you try to make it reverse you will observe that when time
becomes negative and follows backwards then you will observe that
universe will contracts to it axis ,and at you will see that their is
nothing but vacuum exists so in Quran it was said We created universe
when their is nothing .
It means we have no evidence that who created the first matter / atom
(sub atomic particles : electron ,protons, nuclei ) Even cell theory and
different cell models could not explain who created first cell ? They can
only told us how a cell is formed from other existing cells .Even it would
not be defined clearly who first create them. Hence i have recently
searched there is flaw in LAW OF CONSERVATION OF ATOM / MATTER
Antoine Lavoisier stated that "The law of conservation of mass means
that the atoms of an object cannot be created or destroyed, but can be
moved around and be changed into different particles."
"If matter cannot be created or destroyed, then the universe was not
created" Then who creates first matter in this universe ???? First we must
define the states and logics which force is behind to create them first
then we can say that atom/matter cannot be created but it was created
before 1400 billions of years ago.
I must say that " The first matter was created but no one in this
universe creates this matter either it may be spontaneous change or
there may be spiritual forces exists but cannot be destroyed how ever it
changes from one form to another "
Truth is subjective , owing to our confirmation bias what one would
like to be true becomes self evident for that very person as the body will
notice only pointers in compliance with the stimuli it wishes to attain
,ergo; you simply say that is GOD and GOD exists
I read the titles and books and searched by own bases but i must say we
can do so much thing research Islam spread by the character of true
muslim not by battle and those are where muslim try to implement
islamic law with the help of sword,in those are after passing some period
it become the same which was in past so we just need to mold our
charter according to islam i have links , facts and figures to prove of
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