The E-Cat's Meow

by Thomas Conover
9/12/2014
The Roaring Twenties, coming between World War I and the Great Depression, were full of ebullience and
confidence. Americans lived it up, blissfully unaware of the dire times that lay ahead.
The light-heartedness of the decade produced a torrent of slang. For instance, Sol Steinmetz, author of
Theres a Word for It, writes that the Twenties gave us words such as wow, gaga and nah. Instead of
saying the best, flappers (flamboyant young women) and their dates said the bees knees, the cats
meow or "the cats pajamas.
According to Wikipedia, Thomas Aloysius Dorgan is generally credited with either creating or popularizing
such words and expressions as "dumbbell" (a stupid person); "for crying out loud" (an exclamation of
astonishment); "cat's meow" and "cat's pajamas" (as superlatives); "applesauce" (nonsense); "cheaters'"
(eyeglasses); "skimmer" (a hat); "hard-boiled" (a tough person); "drugstore cowboy" (loafers or ladies'
men); "nickel-nurser" (a miser); "as busy as a one-armed paperhanger" (overworked); and "Yes, we have no
bananas," which was turned into a popular song.
Dorgans successful career as a cartoonist demonstrates how one can turn adversity into opportunity.
When he was 13 years old, he lost the last three fingers of his right hand in an accident with a factory
machine, according to Wikipedia. He took up drawing for therapy. A year later at the age of 14 he joined
the art staff of the San Francisco Bulletin.
An inspirational story like that is truly "the cats meow.
http://www.gjsentinel.com/blogs/whats_in_a_word/entry/the-hep-cat-behind-the-cats-meow
On March 24th, 2013, Andrea Rossi made the following statement:
"(THE NEW GENERATION OF HOT CATS IS MADE BY A TWO STAGE SYSTEM, MADE WITH AN ACTIVATOR
WITH RESISTANCES COUPLED WITH A KIND OF CHARGE, WHICH ACTIVATES THE E-CAT WITH A DIFFERENT
CHARGE). THE EFFECT IS STUNNING, WE SAW IN OUR PRIVATE TESTS, AND HAS BEEN REPLICATED BY THE
THIRD INDIPENDENT PARTY."
The following blog excerpts have been posted to inspire us and remind us of where we have been, and in
my opinion, constitute .... The E-Cat's Meow
Andrea Rossi
March 24th, 2013 at 10:53 PM
DEAR GEORGEHANTS:
YOUR COMMENT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OPENS THE GATE FOR THE FOLLOWING
INFORMATION:
THE TESTS OF THE THIRD INDIPENDENT PARTY HAVE BEEN COMPLETED YESTERDAY.
I DID NOT ATTEND, THEREFORE I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY THE RESULTS, THAT WILL
SURELY BE PUBLISHED BY THE EXAMINATORS, PROBABLY AROUND THE HALF OF
APRIL. I MET THE 11 PROFESSORS AND EXPERTS THAT MADE THE TESTS AND THEY
WERE VERY POSITIVE. ONE OF THEM TOLD ME WE GOT EVIDENCE THAT THE
EFFECT IS REAL BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT. I COULD NOT GET MORE
INFORMATION, BECAUSE THEY NOW HAVE TO ELABORATE THE DATA TO PREPARE THE
PUBLICATION. ALL THE PROFESSORS SAID THE TEST IS GONE WELL, VERY WELL.
THE LAST TEST ENDED AFTER 120 HOURS OF UNINTERRUPTED OPERATION OF THE
REACTORS ( THE NEW GENERATION OF HOT CATS IS MADE BY A TWO STAGE SYSTEM,
MADE WITH AN ACTIVATOR WITH RESISTANCES COUPLED WITH A KIND OF CHARGE,
WHICH ACTIVATES THE E-CAT WITH A DIFFERENT CHARGE). THE EFFECT IS
STUNNING, WE SAW IN OUR PRIVATE TESTS, AND HAS BEEN REPLICATED BY THE
THIRD INDIPENDENT PARTY.
NOW WE PASS TO THE INDUSTRIAL ENGAGEMENTS: WE HAVE TO DELIVER OUR PLANTS
BY THE END OF APRIL.
WARM REGARDS,
ANDREA ROSSI
Frank Acland
May 16th, 2013 at 8:17 AM
Dear Andrea,
You have mentioned a number of times that efficient electricity
production with hot cat plants is a current priority for your team.
Realistically, what do you estimate the cost of electricity production to
be with the technology you have developed?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Andrea Rossi
May 16th, 2013 at 2:08 PM
Dear Frank Acland:
Realistically, very low, but before giving number I prefer to do the
thing.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven N. Karels
May 16th, 2013 at 11:00 AM
Dear Andrea Rossi,
1. Have you run the Cat & Mouse configuration for multiple hours? If so,
how many hours?
2. Have you run the Cat & Mouse configuration at temperatures higher than
350 degree Celsius? If so, what temperatures?
3. At 350 degrees Celsius, what stability level (temperature deviation)
do you see?
Andrea Rossi
May 16th, 2013 at 2:06 PM
Dear Steven N. Karels:
1- we have a module working 24 hours per day that has to complete a 180
days test
2- yes, up to 1 000 Celsius
3- +/- 5%
Warm Regards,
A.R.
gio
May 15th, 2013 at 10:04 AM
Dear Ing. Rossi
about the mouse: is it fixed inside the cat?
Warm regard
gio
Andrea Rossi
May 15th, 2013 at 9:40 PM
Dear gio:
No, it is not.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Andrea Rossi
May 13th, 2013 at 8:05 AM
To the Readers:
I am receiving many comments that continue to make the same questions
regarding the system Activator-Ecat. Honestly, I have already explained I
think very well what I can say about this issue for all I can explain, so
I just invite to read what I have written in these last 7 days about it.
I will not answer to questions equal to the ones I have already answered
to for lack of time: in this period we are under strong pressure and I
have the time only to answer to new questions.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Andrea Rossi
May 11th, 2013 at 6:56 PM
Dear Ron Stringer:
The Activator pays for itself, having a COP around 1.02, so its
consumption of energy has not to be accounted for in the balance of the
E-Cat, because it produces enough heat to pay for its own consumption
with a 100% efficiency. The COP of the E-Cat is therefore net of the
Activators consumpton. The COP of the E-Cat, as a matter of fact, has a
zero at the denominator, but we rate it between 100 and 200 considering
some parasitic consumption of energy, also bacause infinity makes no
sense in Physics.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hank Mills
May 10th, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Dear Andrea,
Thank you tremendously for sharing information with us about the new
mouse/cat configuration before the report is issued. You have no
obligation whatsoever to share any information with us, but the fact you
do is very much appreciated.
1) Does the cat and mouse both utilize separate electrical resistance
based heating elements, or is the resistance element utilized by the
mouse/activator the only source of external heat in the entire ECAT?
2) Does the mouse/activator provide the RFG (radio frequency generator)
stimulation for both itself and the cat, or only itself?
3) When the activator/mouse is being driven or turned on, is there any
power being supplied directly to the cat?
4) I cant help but wonder if there might be something being transferred
from the mouse to the cat other than heat and radio frequencies that
helps in the activation process. Is only heat and radio frequencies used
to activate the cat?
Thank you.
Hank
Andrea Rossi
May 10th, 2013 at 8:32 PM
Dear Hank Mills:
1- the only source of external energy is the resistance of the Activator
2- confidential
3- no
4- confidential
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Bernie Koppenhofer
April 21st, 2013 at 12:45 AM
Dr. Rossi: For the last two plus years you have steadfastly held to the
E-cat producing no more than a COP of six. With your new mouse cat are
you willing to say the COP can go higher than six? Thanks
Andrea Rossi
April 21st, 2013 at 8:48 AM
Dear Bernie Koppenhofer:
Not impossible.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Silvio Caggia
April 19th, 2013 at 12:52 PM
Dear Andrea Rossi,
I am very glad of the latest two-level e-cat model (the one with mouse
and cat).
I imagine a multiplicative effect on COP, still maintaining an high
safety level.
But why not follow the suggestion of Angelo Branduardis song Alla
fiera dellest?
This means extend the sequence: after mouse and cat you add dog, club,
fire, water, ox and so on :-)
Seriously Imagine an onion like architecture, with the mouse inside, and
various layers around
Good Work!
Andrea Rossi
April 19th, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Dear Silvio Caggia:
Good suggestionactually, we are working on it.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Koen Vandewalle
April 8th, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Dear Andrea,
It remains very impressive to read about the continued improvements on
your creations.
In order to avoid multiple repeats of questions and remarks, Ive been
waiting a while. But now, some questions are coming into mind.
1: Does the mouse in the newest version of the E-cat do more than just
replacing the gas burner of the gas-cat version ? Honestly, It is very
difficult to understand a gas-cat without chimneys on the container or
on each one of the reactors.
2: You stated that the second cat-stage can be both: e-cat and Hot-Cat.
Even more: the next 1MW thermal plant deliveries will be immediatly
released with mouse and cat combined systems. Does this mean that de
thermal plants have Hot-Cat cores, and that the former cores (with
cooling fins) are obsolete and abandonned?
3: How much more expensive is this new system (in estimated percent) per
MW? In investment and in refueling and labour costs, both for initial
manufacturing and service ? The intention of this question is this: if
COP was 6, and the price was 1.5M, then if COP now becomes 18 (just a
number), and the price becomes 2.5M, it would be a huge improvement. Do
you think it will be better than what I write ? Would you call this
latest improvement better or huge or more a quantum leap?
4: do you have something that works nearly at the performance of double
self sustaining mode (or enhanced driven mode) ? (Ad impossibilia nemo
tenetur, but maybe something very close)
5: You stated that now the modules are 1kW instead of 10kW. This makes me
think of a device that has the size and power of an electric paint
stripper. These handheld devices are capable of producing an air flow of
500C and flows of some hundred litres per minute at nearby atmospherical
pressure. Does this downsizing of power per Hot-Cat mean that you have
found the best fit in power density for heat exchanging with gaseous
fluida and that you are about to produce electricity using a very
efficient Carnot cycle?
6: Does this perfect fit, if it is correct as mentioned in 5, mean that
it can be expected that small scale electricity production will be a
viable option in the near future, if and only if some urgent
administrative and mostly juridical issues are solved ? In that case, I
would like to replace my earlier reservation with this upgrade. At any
cost within my personal range.
I hope there are some positive answers.
Best Regards,
Koen
Andrea Rossi
April 8th, 2013 at 4:23 PM
Dear Koen Vandewalle:
1- no
2- no
3- there are no variations in price; the other questions are premature
4- I do not understand the question
5- yes
6- yes, but remember the reserve due to the safety certification issue
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Andrea Rossi
March 28th, 2013 at 9:59 PM
Dear Prof. Joseph Fine:
1- please wait the report
2- same as above
3- same as above
I am very sorry, but I want not to give the numbers we got from our
private tests before the publication made by the scientists of the Third
Indipendent Party based on their own indipendent tests . I think this is
deontologically necessary.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Joseph Fine
March 28th, 2013 at 5:48 PM
Andrea Rossi,
In your latest two-stage (Cat and Mouse) reactor configuration, I was
curious about operation of the self-sustaining mode (SSM). (Curiosity is
bad for cats, they say.)
1) If external power is shut off to the Mouse in SSM, is the Mouse able
to keep the Cat active for a significant time interval?
2) Is there a typical average or maximum time that the first stage Mouse
operates in SSM? Or does the Mouse operate continuously but, in SSM,
auxiliary heaters to the second stage are turned off and on?
3) Does the newest generation Hot-Cat operate in Self-sustain Mode (SSM)
about 50% of the time (as before), or is the time in SSM different?
Congratulations to all are in order,
Everyone is looking forward to the future reports.
Joseph Fine
John L
March 26th, 2013 at 10:54 PM
Hi Dr. Rossi,
Does the soon-to-be first civilian 1MW warm E-cat plant have this new
two stages Cat and mouse system? Or this is only applicable to the Hot
cat?
Andrea Rossi
March 26th, 2013 at 11:55 PM
Dear John L:
It will be applicable to all, but the plant we are going to deliver in
April is close to be ready, no time is left to modify it. The next plants
will have the new generation of reactors. Good question
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Andrea Rossi
March 25th, 2013 at 8:31 PM
Dear Dr Joseph Fine:
1- no, just to give the idea of something that wakes up a Cat: the mouse
activates the aggressivity of a Cat
2- no, are not reversible
3- I can say that 1 MW of power stays in 3 cubic meters
4- different scaling will be necessary, but the 1 kW modules are very
perfectioned
5- both
6- same as in 2
Happy Holy Day to you and all our Readers
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Joseph Fine
March 25th, 2013 at 2:54 PM
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Congratulations to you on your new generation of kittens.
I hope they will grow healthy and strong.
In your response to Steven Karels, you said three Hot-Cats are being
tested.
Each Hot-Cat has 2 stages a 1st stage activator (or MOUSE) and a 2nd
stage E-Cat 1 kW-Th module.
1: Is the first stage called a Mouse because it is so small?
2: Can you feed heat back from the 2nd stage to the first stage (Mouse)
to help activate the MOUSE? ( to make the mouse squeak.)
3: How big (or small) and how heavy (or light) is the current (two-stage)
1 kW module?
4: Do you plan to have 1000-1 kW modules or can you scale up the size of
the modules to 5 kW, 10 kW etc. That is can you scale up this technology
to 10 MW instead of 1 MW without having 10,000 1 kW modules?
5: Can the newest module be driven by natural gas or by electric heaters?
6: If heat is fedback from the 2nd stage to the MOUSE, does that enhance
the time duration/stability of the self-sustain mode?
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=791&cpage=3#comment-663393
Best regards to you, your family, your team and Readers for a Happy and
Holy Day.
Joseph Fine
Robert Tanhaus
March 25th, 2013 at 5:16 PM
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Wonderful!!
I have two questions.
1. Was the Hot Cat in Pordenone of the same model as the Hot Cats in the
3rd party test now?
2. Did your new partner helped you a lot designing these two stage
reactors?
Thank you,
Robert Tanhaus
Andrea Rossi
March 25th, 2013 at 8:13 PM
Dear Robert Tanhaus:
1- no, we revolutioned the technology separating the activation from the
E-Cat, making 2 separated apparatuses in the same house: mouse (
activator) and Cat. This has enhanced the efficiency of the E-Cat. Has
been an idea I got during a night of fever and asma attack I couldnt
sleep, it worked.
2- He is helping manufacturing the plants
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven N. Karels
March 24th, 2013 at 7:02 PM
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Regarding the independent third-party testing, you stated But my Cats
are good, Im sure they are working well
Questions:
1. How many eCats did you provide to the third party testers?
2. Were they nominal 10kW output power reactors?
3. What flavor of eCats (Thermal, Hot or Gas-fired) were provided?
Andrea Rossi
March 25th, 2013 at 8:03 AM
Dear Steven N. Karels,
The new technology of the Hot Cats has revolutioned the system we had
used before. Please wait the publication, afterward we will talk of this
issue. Basically, we have no more a reactor or a cluster of reactors, but
each reactor is coupled with an activator: lets make this model: the
activator is the Mouse, which makes the Cat run. The Mouse has his own
COP which is more than 1, the Cat is a surprise.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Joseph Fine
August 21st, 2012 at 10:22 PM
A.R.
I meant that the hot side would be in direct contact with the exterior
wall, not beneath the exterior wall.
J.F.
Andrea Rossi
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 AM
Dear Joseph Fine,
Yes, I agree. The primary goal is to make electric power to self sustain
the E-Cat, and then get infinite heat energy. With the Hot Cats this road
is open.
Warm Regards, dear Prof!
A.R.
Francesco Toro
August 22nd, 2012 at 3:04 AM
Dear Ing. Rossi
You made a good question:
Specific suggestions?
Well I really appreciate it!
To help us understand and be able to really help I just get you three
simple questions:
1) The heat concentration to be administered must be at the level of the
dart of the flame of a gas burner?;
2) transport and heat concentration by means of a carrier fluid that
interacts with the venue to be heated can disturb the reaction priming?;
3) if the carrier fluid is a disorder, it is necessary to heat by
irradiation light (or infrared)?
I think the answer is not too demanding for the secrecy of the invention
Thanks for possible reply.
Warm (1200C)Regards
F.T.
Andrea Rossi
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:30 AM
Dear Francesco Toro:
1- yes
2- no
3- no
Thank you for your help,
Warm ( 1050C) Regards,
A.R.
Francesco Toro
August 20th, 2012 at 4:32 AM
Dear ing. Rossi
Your answer number 3:
3- no (he,he,he)":
Buthe,he,he or Ah,ah,ah?
The difference is subtle.
I think:
Ah,ah,ah!
Best regard
F.T.
Andrea Rossi
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:30 AM
Dear Francesco Toro:
1- yes
2- no
3- no
Thank you for your help,
Warm ( 1050C) Regards,
A.R.
Luca Coppola
August 22nd, 2012 at 4:59 AM
If the heating time is not too long you could think to some pyrotechnic
device. With the proper shape you can concentrate the energy in a single
point.
Andrea Rossi
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 AM
Dear Luca Coppola,
Yes, we are working on it,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hermano Tobia
August 22nd, 2012 at 7:51 AM
Dear Mr. Rossi,
as far as you know, could the science/technology behind e-cat be used to
build new kind of weapons ?
Best Regards
Hermano Tobia
Translate
Andrea Rossi
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Dear Hermano Tobia:
I do not think so, because our reactions are too slow to be applicable to
a weapon ( luckily).
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Joseph Fine
August 21st, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Andrea Rossi,
Please see: http://www.powerchips.gi/technology/pcalc.shtml
Power Chips consist of an array of nano vacuum tubes/thermal diodes. They
are thermionic and not thermovoltaic devices.
If Hot-Cat modules can be designed to use PowerChips with some hardware
both above the exterior surface of the outer cylinder wall (cold side)
and beneath the exterior surface of the outer cylinder (hot side) and a
gap between them, then PowerChips might be able to drive electrical
heaters in each of the modules. The cold side, of course, can not be in
direct contact with the exterior wall.
Unfortunately, Power Chips have a rectangular/(cubical) geometry not a
cylindrical one.
But perhaps someone can work this out.
Permit me to speculate wildly, or maybe practically.
For the sake of argument, and Im not arguing but presenting an idea, let
us say that thermionic conversion can yield 40% efficiency. This can
happen if the temperature difference were 500 degrees C. (Cold side 100,
hot side 600.) The 40% factor is 70% of Carnot efficiency.
On average, each 10 kW module requires 1.66 kW of heat, so 100 modules
require 166 kW.
40% of 1 MW is 400 kW, and requires 166 kW of electric/(gas) heating.
(This assumes 50% of modules are in Self Sustain Mode and the others use
3.33 kW.)
Instead of 166 kW of electric or gas heat to yield 1 MW of heat with an
output of 400 kW-electric, only 1.66 kW of electric or gas heat energy is
needed to produce a net 400-166.66 kW = 233.3 kW of electrical energy.
(For a conversion factor of 45%, there could (?) be a net of 283.3 kW.
Thats a factor of 233.33/1.66 = 140 vs. a factor of 6. Possibly,
infinite once the startup drive can be put in standby. And thats for
electricity. Heat is still available as part of a Combined Heat & Power
scenario (CHP).
PowerChips (TM) are not quite ready to patch onto Hot-Cats, but this may
happen in the near future.
Maybe.
I am amazed this may be possible.
Best regards,
Joseph
Joe
March 8th, 2012 at 3:00 AM
Dr Rossi,
1. Must the E-Cat be cold before the fuel rod can be safely removed?
2. If so, is there a safety mechanism that is incorporated into the E-Cat
that will prevent removal at any other time?
3. Will you continue to work at raising the temperature of the reactor
from 260C even though you have achieved this important milestone?
4. What do you believe to be the next milestone for the E-Cat?
All the best,
Joe
Andrea Rossi
March 8th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
Dear Joe:
1- yes
2- yes
3- not a priority
4- self sustained using self produced electricity = infinite energy: the
dream of Tesla (and mine).
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Luca Salvarani
March 1st, 2012 at 9:58 PM
Dear Andrea,
Since e-cat requires electric power, which is very expensive in some
countries (expecially here in Italy) its crucial to get also the
electric power production as soon as possible. The first generation will
enable substantial savings but only the second generation will trigger
off the revolution.. On this you have talked about 2 years after the
first generation domestic e-cat, but recently you have also achieved some
improvements in the electric production for 1 MW plants. So I wonder if
this could take less time, maybe 1 year. Thank you!
Andrea Rossi
March 2nd, 2012 at 8:32 AM
Dear Luca Salvarani:
I agree, also because the production of electricity will make the COP
infinite, if we consider that in a system of E-Cats one makes the power
to drive the others.
Warm Regards,
A.R.