Hey Flash!

Actually, I think Simon said both things, that if they build

the new CERN ( the frst one didn't accomplish its purpose, to
allow the negative ETs trapped on Earth to escape), its
operation certainly would be bad or the Earth, but its purpose
would be to allow the negative ETs to leave the planet! There's
a window deadline or the new one though, and it loo"s
unli"ely they will be able to fnish building it in time to meet
the date! #resumably then, the ETs will die, as they cannot
withstand the new re$uencies here!
I hope I don't have to go back and read all of that %imon #ar"es
thread again too! ( I onder hat Simon and !ames "illiland ill say
about #$'s statements that the &antids and 'ion #eople don't
register on the ("ashic as living beings) %
From&http&''pro(ectavalon)net'forum*'sho)))s+$homas'page,
#hris& -Sure) .kay) $he /elon are a semi+physical race) $hey originate
in a "ala0y 1 if you look up at the night sky, the "ala0y is behind the
constellation of Sagittarius, but about 23 "ala0ies beyond the
constellation) Although, the /elon have access to several "ala0ies, like
the other semi+physical races do, they intended to stick to their on
Solar System)
4o, their %olar %ystem has two %uns * it+s a binary system *
and, eight planets) $hree orbit around one Sun, four orbit around
another, and the 3th planet orbits both Suns) I am trying to think of the
names of the planets5 $here6s a 7arduk, there6s a $iamat, and a
4ibiru) Nibiru is also called (nu, by the people that live on it!,
So in the alse annals that the (nnuna"i created or our solar
system, they said that there as a -ar8 beteen the planets of
$iamat and and 7arduk, and the asteroid belt and our 7oon is the
result, if I recall rightly) According to #hris, it as actually the e0plosion
of 9 planets from our solar system that created the damage
responsible for the asteroid belt and our 7oon, hoever) :as there
actually a -ar8 of the planets $iamat and 7arduk in the /elon
system;
<o planets have disagreements and =ghts;
:hat about comets that hit planets; <o they have -issues8 ith those
planets; !!
<oes #hris discuss in his books more of hat the /elon did ho ent
back in time and ere trapped over the centuries on >arth, after they
created the false annals; :hat =nally happened to them; :ere they all
able to survive to the current day (since he states they are basically
immortal, provided their bodies aren't destroyed) <id they go to 7ars;
I think I've read his comments on this, but I've forgotten no)))
#an he o?er any proof that "eorge :ashington and others of the
Founding Fathers lived on in the same bodies up until recently;
Is the giant 9 mile long ship on the dark side of the 7oon a /elon ship;
:hat is its history and purpose; :hat happened to the rest of the
cre;
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#hris& -$he biggest thing about -uman technology is that it is
destructive) So, in other ords, everything we do to build
something involves the destruction o something else! >ven,
doing something supposedly simple like taking oil out of the ground,
uses a massive amount of energy in order to do so, creates massive
pollution, and then reAuires massive more amounts of energy to re=ne
that oil into something e can use) . you loo" at the semi/physical
races, what they do is wor" with what is available on their
planet) So, if you ant to build a Bying saucer, for e0ample, they don6t
mine material in the ay that e ould) :hat they do is they wor"
on very psychic levels! (nd so, what they do is create a psychic
template or the shape o the crat they want to build)
And they use living plants to gro that shell) So, in other ords, the
plant gros C e0pands itself around the psychic template that6s been
built) So, its like an organic metal, almost) So, that6s the kind of
technological level that the semi+physical races ork at, hich is on a
very natural level 1 they only use hatever is available ithin their
environment) $hey don6t actually destroy anything)
And if you look at the propulsion systems that all the semi+physical
races use for their craft, they use the natural 0u1 o
electromagnetic energies that actually hold this 2niverse
together! I mean, forget about gravity) "ravity doesn6t e0ist) 3hat
we have is a conscious 2niverse that+s held together by
electromagnetic orces! %o they use those electromagnetic
orces as a means o propulsion! %o, in other words, they are
not ta"ing rom anything, they+re not destroying anything on
their planet, they+re not creating any pollution anywhere!
They+re using what is naturally available!
And the same, more or less, applies to the /elon) $he /elon technology
is based on that level, as ell) For e0ample, these 4&e+ computer
discs are actually made rom something li"e yeast! Again, that6s
the nearest I can come to in terms to hat e have available on >arth)
-
Henrik& .t+s a biological technology!
#hris& -Des, it6s a biological memory system, yes, that6s a good ay of
putting it) So, they put the ingredients5 hatever their eAuivalent to
yeast ould be put into a mold, and they psychically program that
mold) So, as that mold gros into the shape of the disc, it takes on the
imprint of hatever its been programmed to do) So again, its very
natural technology) Although, the5 /elons on their home planets do
mine for minerals C ra materials) Eut, again, they don6t destroy the
planet)8
#hris says above that the /elon are semi+physical and that they do not
destroy their planets , but then he contradicts himself and says the
/elon have used up everything on their planets) ))));;;
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#hris says that most of the souls of the humans on earth are actually
non+physical beings ho came here millions of years ago) Det there
seem to be souls here at all di?erent levels of intelligence, e0perience,
sophistication, adaptability, -soul age8, etc) 3hy is that) 3hat
about autistic people, people with 5owns %yndrome, etc! (re
those conditions a result o "arma) 6r are those semi/physical
souls who came here later and so have had a harder time
learning how to be more ully operational in physical bodies)
:ill the individual souls ho ere once part of a uni=ed soul, that
became -soul groups8 eventually reintegrate back into one uni=ed
soul; I think #hris spoke of group souls somehere, but the idea I am
aare of that the individual souls regroup again is from -$he 7ichael
$eachings8, if #hris is not aare of that systemFthere is lots of info
about it online)%
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#hris&->?ectively, they destroyed most o the lie on all the other
planets! Earth managed to survive, and what she did was to
adopt part o one o the planets as the moon, because we
didn+t have a moon prior to this e1plosion occurring! %o the
moon is there because the Earth wanted7 well, .+m not
entirely certain what she wanted7 so the moon is sitting
there, and having in0uence on Earth 8 the Earth is in0uencing
the moon, and all the rest o it!,9
:hy ere the to planets hich ble themselves up so unconcerned
about the damage they ould do to the rest of the planets; <id they
not realiGe hat the result ould be;
I don't remember no the sources of the theory that the 7oon is older
than >arth, and that, from the study of 7oon rock that has been done
so far, it appears to actually be from a di?erent solar system because it
doesn't match the rock from any of the other planet, asteroids, etc),
but I kno I've seen it and it seemed fairly ell researched) <oes
anyone remember ho as disseminating that information;
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Is #hris aare of the book :The Ringma"ers o %aturn;, by
Norman <ergrun; If so, hat does he think about it;
:hat about Ale0 #ollier's ork; <oes #hris think Ale0 got any of that
right, particularly the part about the Haa'taal; ( See&
http&'')ale0collier)org' %
<o the #reators of the Iniverse continue to direct involve themselves
in hat happens once the gala0ies are created, or is it essentially up to
the created to take it all from there;
:hy are the elites building so many underground cities;
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It as me saying it ould be a good thing for the negative >$s to
leave++ I don't think Simon said that, and I should have clari=ed that)
Apologies)
I didn't mean that it ould be a good thing to keep the ormhole open,
(ust good for the >$s to leave)
Eut I think I do remember pretty clearly that he said the =rst #>J4
didn't do the (ob)
So they have started construction on a ne one, and there is a narro
indo of opportunity for that one to ork, so it follos that the ne
facility may not even be built in time to be of use)
If that happens, presumably they are stuck here for a long hile,
though if that's true, I suppose e don't kno if they ill be able to
ithstand the ne, higher freAuencies on >arth)
I ould imagine they could create some technology that ould allo
for that, but apparently they are an0ious to leave at this point, and
certainly elcome to leave, too, from our perspective!!
$hat info may have been in one of the video intervies and not
transcribed or Auoted or ritten here by Simon, so the search engine
ouldn't ork in that case)
$hanks Flash, you are one of the good ones too)
As to trusting anything anyone has ritten here, you kno very ell by
no, I'm sure, that you have to use your on discernment)
:e can only speculate about this kind of information)
7aybe e are (ust going to have to learn to read the Akashic Jecords
ourselves)
4o, that ould really be interesting!
http&''pro(ectavalon)net'forum*'shothread)php;K33LK+An+Ipdate+.n+
.ur+>volution+by+#hris+$homas'page3
A Auestion has arisen from, to me, an unknon source through a
discussion forum) $he Auestion is about the di?erence beteen the
energies of the M*th Faction, this Iniverse and the /elon)
It is a fundamental Auestion hich I am surprised has not been asked
before) Jeally, I could rite a ne book to anser this Auestion but
there is not enough time available for that to happen so it is a matter
of ansering the Auestion in an essay format)
$he Auestion as this&
NI>S$I.4& I6m trying to clarify an understanding I have of -energies8
of the universe)
I understand from #$6s books that our universe as created ith the
idea of hat ould happen if everyone had free ill ith the rule of not
being able to take aay free ill from others) If everything is energy,
then our universe, along ith everything in it ould be created ithin
the energy of free ill) $he action of acting against free ill ould not
be possible because it6s not part of the -energy8) $he M*$H Faction
arrived ultimately -infecting8 our universe ith the ability to take aay
free ill)
4o, #$ states that the portal the M*$H Faction created is no closed
as of 9OO9, so no one can dra on these energies any longer) Hoever,
I assume that those energies still e0ist) In the books that I have read,
#$ does not state these energies infecting the /elon) I tend to think
they have, since they are e?ectively taking aay our free ill)
. we generate enough o the ree will energies as a mass
consciousness, then, will it be possible to reduce those with
the :inected, energies) .s this what those mass meditations
are aiming at) .s "eeping humanity in con0ict the :ood, or
these negative energies, which is what is "eeping this cycle
going)
Easically, I6m trying to make a correlation ith the energies of the M*th
Faction brought in and to comments from folks like Icke ho state that
the entities controlling the .lluminati promote con0ict, so they
can :eed, o= the negative energies humans give o=!
. the portal is gone, then we become the main source o ood
or those remaining with the :inected, >?th @action energies!
. believe it is un"nown i all >?th @action entities were
removed!
A4S:>J& $his is a comple0 Auestion hich gets to the heart of the
purpose and function of our Iniverse and our current state of
development as individual souls) $he answer also involves the
comple1ities o time, and how it is measured in di=erent parts
o our 2niverse, and how time relates to the Earth!
6ur 2niverse was Created >?,ABC,DBE,AEA years
ago (as o DF>D)! That is, the number o :human,
years ago! .n di=erent regions o the 2niverse, time is
measured in di=erent ways and this will become
relevant later!
6urs is the frst 2niverse ever Created and was constructed
around the energy patterns o 'reedom o choice') In other
ords, every soul that has been #reated to e0ist ithin this Iniverse
has absolute freedom of choice over their actions) $he only -limiting
factor8 is that no soul can act in such a ay as to remove the freedom
of choice of another) $hat -Iniversal Pa8 is absolute and inviolate)
Hoever, other universes have been #reated since ours) In all, telve
universes e0ist at the present time ith the apparent intention of there
being thirteen in total) I am not trying to speak on behalf of the
#reator, (ust e0trapolating information from the Akashic)
.n overall terms, these other universes have no relationship
with oursG they are not :multiverses, in a $uantum physics
sense but totally independent energy :envelopes, that are
imbued with energy patterns and characteristics that the
Creator wishes to e1plore!
The second universe to be Created e1plores the e1act opposite
o ours! .n other wordsH what i every soul within that universe
had the ability to remove reedom o choice) This second
universe was not very successul! The energy patterns rom
which it was constructed generated chaosG so much so that it
only lasted about >I million (human) years beore it began a
process o decline and collapse! This second universe does still
e1ist but is very close to annihilation and most o its
inhabitants have returned to source (the Creator)!
All of the souls that ere #reated for this second universe ere of a
-semi+physical8 nature) $his means that they had a physical form and
physical density and their souls ere integral to their bodies) In other
ords, their souls did not detach from their bodies but ere e?ectively
immortal in their embodied form) Their length o lie e1pectancy
was, e=ectively, as long as the lie o their universe!
"iven the chaotic state of their universe, the inhabitants tended to
form alliances and collect together in groups ith a common cause
(Factions%) Isually this cause as the storage of energy to hich they
had many uses but, primarily, the reason seems to be purely depriving
other Factions the use of that energy) Jiven the underlying
energies o this second universe / the removal o reedom o
choice / the @actions tended to become controlled by one
individualG someone who was more aggressive than others!
This aggressive individual would then orce the other members
o the @action into becoming :drones, / a situation not unli"e
the :<org, o the %tar Tre" television series! Each separate
@action was made up o one leader who turned all o the other
members o the @action into drones * there was no hierarchy,
Kust a dictatorship o one!
The e=ect o this energy gathering was to create a universe
made up o energy clusters with massive voids in between!
This is unli"e our 2niverse where energy is reely available
wherever you travel, whether that is within gala1ies or within
inter/galactic space!
3ith a universe so severely divided, it was impossible or it to
continue in e1istence and so it began a process o decline!
Those who lived within this second universe realised that the
decline and collapse had begun and they attempted to gather
together any and all energies to try to maintain their position
within their universe! Even with the pressures and urgency o
their universal collapse, they did not fght warsG there was no
history o violence between the various @actions! -owever, one
o the @actions realised that another universe e1isted and in
an attempt to gather as much energy as possible, they
constructed what our scientists would call a :wormhole,!
$he scienti=c de=nition of a orm hole is an energy :tube, that is
constructed rom two blac" holes positioned bac" to bac"! This
worm hole connected the second universe to ours with this
connection ta"ing place appro1imately A!C million (human)
years ago!
The beings that entered our 2niverse, the ("ashic calls the
:>?th @action,! $here appears to be to reasons for this name&
=rstly, that as the name they gave to themselves ithin their on
universe and secondly, our 2niverse contains thirteen races so to
mark their di?erence, our Iniverse also numbered them -M*8)
$he M*th Faction ere a semi+physical race) $his means that they
would be invisible to normal human senses! The semi/physical
races are constructed rom energy patterns that humans can
only perceive on a psychic level! .n appearance they were
about Im or >I oot tall and humanoid in orm! $heir skin as
reddish green in colour and very smooth and they ere androgynous)
$he only -markings8 they had ere a pronounced bony ridge that
e0tended from the top of their nose and across the top of the skull)
$heir eyes ere yello ith vertical irises) 6verall, a very reptilian/
li"e appearance)
Their purpose in brea"ing into our 2niverse was to collect
energy and transport it bac" to their own universe to maintain
their position within a universe that was in the early stages o
collapse! Jiven their history o energy gathering and stoc"/
piling in their own universe, they had developed technology to
achieve these aims and this technology they brought with
them into our 2niverse!
:hat is meant by -energy8 is a little diQcult to describe given
scienti=c lack of understanding) >nergy underlies, and is the basic
building block, of everything that e0ists) $his is ell described by
>instein6s $heory of Jelativity&
E L m cD
:hat this eAuation means is that&
> stands for energy
m stands for matter
c stands for the speed of light
.r& The amount o energy that is contained within solid matter
is calculated by multiplying the mass o a substance by the
speed o light s$uared! $o give an e0ample&
:ater contains to atoms of hydrogen combined ith one atom of
o0ygen) $o calculate ho much energy ould be released from the
hydrogen contained ithin one litre of pure ater (hydrogen bomb%,
the calculation ould be&
>Rmc9
>R O)MMM 0 2OO,OOO,OOO 0 2OO,OOO,OOO
>R MO,OOO,OOO,OOO,OOO,OOO (oules
:ater contains MMM grams of hydrogen or O)MMM kilograms and the
speed o light has been measured at AFF million metres
per second within our solar system!
Another ay of looking at energy and matter is that the speed at
which light travels determines the density o solid matter! As
the alchemist Mohn 5ee put it in the >Cth CenturyH
:(ny substance can be created by re0ecting light at
the correct angle,!
All of this comes don to the fact that everything that e0ists is
constructed of energy hich means that the M*th Faction found a
hole universe full, hen they broke into our Iniverse) $he ay in
hich they ent about gathering this energy and transporting it back
to their universe is not something I can describe, as we do not have
the vocabulary to describe the "ind o technology they used!
-owever, there is one device they used hich has become ell
knon, and that is a -black hole8)
Elack Hole by Allain via :ikimedia #ommons
Eefore the arrival of the M*th Faction, black holes did not e0ist in this
Iniverse) ( blac" hole is a region o e1tremely dense energies
that bend space and time so much that it draws energy into
itsel! The blac" hole connects one region o space to another,
but in one direction only! Elack holes can be likened to a drinking
stra) If you put a stra into a liAuid and then dra the air out of the
stra, the liAuid rises up the stra and, usually, into your mouth) Elack
holes ork in very similar ays e0cept they were specifcally
designed to draw energy rom the region o space around its
entrance and deliver that energy to a specifc region where the
>?th @action could :harvest, it! The energy could travel in only
one direction, it could not return down the blac" hole :straw,
to where it was collected!
<lac" holes were only ormed by devices constructed by the
>?th @action * they did not e1ist in this 2niverse beore the
>?th @action arrived! ( good indicator that the >?th @action
has been removed rom our 2niverse is the act that many
blac" holes have now been observed to eKect the energy they
collected bac" out through the collection end! &any blac"
holes have also been observed to collapse!
$he M*th Faction did not operate their energy -stripping8 devices
anyhere near to >arth but did considerable damage to other
areas o our 2niverse) So much damage was caused that it was
a closely argued decision between allowing our 2niverse to
continue in e1istence or to collapse it!
5ealing with the >?th @action was immensely diNcult! 3e live
in a 2niverse where the removal o reedom o choice is not
allowed and so dealing with beings who brought with them
energy patterns that were designed to remove reedom o
choice proved almost impossible!
The Thirteen beings who maintain the balance o energies
within this 2niverse took a great deal of time to =nd a means of
overcoming the M*6s energy patterns 1 e=ectively, they had to
create undamentally new energy patterns rom re$uencies
that did not e1ist originally in this 2niverse! In the end, the >arth
played a crucial role in overcoming the M*th Faction ith their eviction
from this Iniverse =nally happening in DFFD (human time)!
$his is here time becomes very confusing) The destruction o the
>? energies too" place in DFFD on Earth but D!I million years
ago in the region o the 2niverse most a=ected by the >?! @or
a more detailed e1planation o how time varies in di=erent
parts o the 2niverse, see my previous essay entitled :Time/
'ines,!
4eedless to say, time is also an energy and the range of freAuencies of
energy that e0ist ithin the Iniverse vary considerably certainly to a
far greater e0tent than e, humans, can currently comprehend) $his is
not a failing on our partS e (ust need the rest of the soul in the body
to be able to grasp the full range of knoledge that is currently not
available to us) $he most important aspect of the M*th Faction is that a
ay as found to destroy the energy patterns they brought ith them
and the reptilian beings that entered our Iniverse ere all evicted) For
more details of the M*th Faction see Hlanet >arth 1 $he Iniverse6s
>0periment and $he Iniversal Soul)
Hoever, the M*th Faction did have an impact on life on >arth) 3hen
the >?+s worm hole burst into our 2niverse, AA,FFF
souls rom the si1 non/ physical races were caught in
the blast! This means that they became contaminated
with energy patterns rom the >?+s universe * the
ability to remove reedom o choice! The ("ashic does
not record e1actly what happened to these AA,FFF! The
personal e1perience o each individual soul is recorded within
their 5N( and these e1periences are not ully downloaded into
the ("ashic until those individuals decide to return to the
Creator and leave this 2niverse! The activities o some people
can be trac"ed through the ("ashic but only because o the
events those individuals cause to happen!
Hoever, the >? energy patterns can be trac"ed, to a certain
e1tent, and so there is some inormation available about the
movements and activities o these AA,FFF!
Again, the strangeness of time plays a part in their story) $he =rst thing
to remember is that although these AA,FFF were contaminated
with >? energies, the choice o whether they made use o
those energies was entirely that o the individual! In all,
something li"e DI,FFF o these souls reKected the >? energies
and returned themselves bac" to the normal energy patterns
o this 2niverse! This meant that about O,FFF souls made a
choice to ma"e use o these energies that allowed them to
remove reedom o choice! .nitially, these O,FFF attempted to
use the >? re$uencies to fght against the activities o the
>?th @action but, ater a while, they were deeated and orced
to wor" or the >?! (t varying times, each one o these O,FFF
continued on their Kourney and came to Earth ta"ing on human
orm!
It must be remembered though that they were not reptilian in
orm! They were not reptiles hiding under a human s"in! 3hat
did mar" them out as di=erent were the changed energy
patterns they brought with them and it was these energy
patterns that, rom a psychic point o view, gave them a
:eeling,, and perhaps a :shadow,, o being reptilian!
The frst o these contaminated souls to arrive on Earth did so
around AAF <C and is better "nown as (le1ander the Jreat!
%ince then, all o these O,FFF souls have lived various human
lietimes and in each lietime they have made use o their
ability to remove reedom o choice! .n each lie time, these
individuals acted alone, building or themselves empires that
e1isted during their lietimes with the empire collapsing on
their deaths! 3hen they were born again into a new body, they
began their empire building anew! The only e1ception to this
was the establishment o the Patican * various #opes have
made use o >? energies they were contaminated with to frst
build and then maintain an organisation that wielded
considerable power over others over a period o almost D,FFF
years!
#ope 2rban .. calls upon the @ran"s to invade the more
civiliQed &uslim world, thereby causing fve centuries o
warare and the death o millions
S.IJ#>
It is important to remember this fact& each o those who were
contaminated with >?th @action energies usually acted as
individuals! They did not create organisations, such as the
.lluminati, as they did not want to share their power with
others! They all wor"ed by themselves and used their ability to
remove reedom o choice to bring power and wealth to
themselvesG the idea o sharing that power did not ft in with
the >?th @action+s energies!
Jemember, the inhabitants of the M*6s universe formed themselves
into Factions ith one very dominant leader in order to gather to their
faction as much energy as possibleS an inherently sel=sh viepoint)
:hen translated into >arth culture, those ho ere contaminated ith
M* energies also acted in very sel=sh ays) The contaminating
energies made it impossible or them to share their power!
$he M*th Faction e0isted ithin our Iniverse for (ust over M million
years) $hese are human years) 6ur solar system is
constructed rom energy re$uencies that are
compacted down to the point where they orm what
we describe as :physical, matter! These energy
patterns are so condensed that we perceive time,
light and matter in ways that are very di=erent to the
other regions o the 2niverse! 6ne million years to us
will appear to be one year or one second in other
regions o the 2niverse where di=erent combinations
o time, light and matter create other realities and
other perceptions!
The >?th @action was removed rom this 2niverse about D!I
million human years ago and all o their technology was
destroyed at the same time! To the semi/physical races, this
time period appears to be a matter o wee"s whilst to the non/
physical races it can appear to be li"e the blin" o an eye! Time
is strange stu=, certainly as ar as humans are concerned!
Jegardless of the huge range of time+scales involved, the M*th Faction
have been removed from the Iniverse and all o their energy
patterns have been removed with them! The last time that the
>?th @actions energies were made use o on Earth was in DFFDG
ten years ago! %ince then, those who were used to wielding
power by removing the choice o others have ound that they
can no longer orce people to ta"e actions against their own
choice!
$he M*th Faction energies no longer e0ist)
Human life, for the past ,,OOO years, has been lived here our ability
to choose our actions has alays been intact) Pooking back through
human history, it might appear as though there have been many
occasions here our freedom of choice has been removed but this is
not necessarily because of individuals making use of the M* energies
they ere contaminated ith)
Human lives have been lived hilst e0ploring the possibilities available
under $he Human Hlan) $hese lifetimes have been lived under the
direction of the higher self and the events that have occurred in each
lifetime have been planned by the higher self to gain the ma0imum
e0perience of living a human lifetime on >arth) %ometimes the plans
o the higher sel have placed us in situations where a choice
has to be madeH do we stand up to the bully) 6r do we give in
to what they tell us to do) <y :bully, . mean the li"es o
landowners, mine owners, mill owners, dictators etc! . we
ound our courage, we did not go along with what these bullies
told us to do! . we did not fnd the courage, it appeared as
though our ree choice was ta"en away rom us!
%o although O,FFF o the souls that were contaminated in the
blast o the >?+s wormhole did ma"e use o the ability to
remove reedom o choice, they were not necessarily
responsible or many o the ine$uities that many people
e1perienced during their lietimes! These ine$uities came
about by people ma"ing a choice and, in many instances that
choice was to not ma"e a choice but to do what someone else
told them to do!
.rganisations, like the Illuminati, did not make use of M* energies 1
there is nothing ithin the Akashic to support that vieS the Illuminati
do not have a M* energy signature 1 the .lluminati and the other
organisations they control, have been ormed by a di=erent
energy pattern!
$he /elon
6ur 2niverse is peopled by many, many trillions o souls! These
are the ree/acting and ree/moving souls and not the souls
who ma"e up gala1ies, solar systems or planets!
$hese free+moving souls divide into to groups&
$here are si0 -non+physical8 races)
$hese are souls that e1ist as pure soul energyG in orm they are
humanoid but they have no physical density! These si1 races
e1ist everywhere throughout this 2niverse and it is souls rom
these si1 non/physical races who ma"e up EE!E per cent o the
souls who have ta"en on human orm on Earth! 3e do not have
names or these si1 races! They are totally invisible to us, even
psychically, and their energy patterns are so ar above ours
that we cannot communicate with them, not even by
channelled means! 3e can only psychically communicate with
these souls when they in our solar system as they have
reduced and condensed their natural energies in order to
become human!
$here are also seven -semi+physical8 races)
$hese souls e0ist as physical beings but their bodies are considerably
less dense than ours) $heir natural state is ith the hole of the soul
ithin the body and their bodies e0ist for the length of time that their
soul e0ists) In other ords, they do not :die, in the sense that
humans die but can e1ist or many millions o years in one
body!
The seven races are these (they are not named in any
particular order)H
Crystalline, Jreys, <lues, %irians, NJC IO?, #leiadeans and
Pelon!
$his list might appear to be very short but these are their soul origins)
7ost of these races have spread out across many gala0ies and inhabit
many varied planets) :here they decide to colonise a ne planet, they
ill call into being a number of souls from the same origin to (oin them
from a -soul storage8 1 this reAuires a very comple0 e0planation hich
e have no room for here)
Pery oten when a new planet is colonised, those who have
colonised the planet will not use their soul origin name but will
ta"e on the name they use or that planet!
For e0ample&
:hen these beings have had channelled contact ith people on >arth,
they might have stated that they originate from the planet Tog) $his
statement ill be true, they are Togliths, but their soul origin could
be %irian and this has led to a great deal o conusion on Earth
as to who is who and where do they originate! This is why .
have always tried to stay with soul origins when describing
these races and their activities * to avoid conusion!
All of these M2 races have had contact and interaction ith the >arth in
one form or another over the history of the >arth) $he Sirians,
Hleiadeans, 4"# K3*, "reys and Elues have been visiting >arth, using
ships, for up to millions of years and their purpose has been
overhelmingly helpful and peaceful) Eut, one semi+physical race has
had other ideas and these are the /elon)
I am not going to give a detailed description and back+story to /elon
history as this has been covered by several of my books particularly
$he Human Soul, Hro(ect Human >0tinction and $he Annunaki Hlan; or
$he Human Hlan; Hoever, since the /elon began to inBuence
activities on >arth, members of several of the semi+physical races have
been investigating /elon history and /elon activities to try to get to the
bottom of hat brought the /elon to >arth and hy they have acted in
ays hich have attempted to remove freedom of choice) $his more
comprehensive history is no included ithin the Akashic)
$he /elon solar system e0ists is a gala0y that is tenty three gala0ies
distant from ours) It lies in a direction that is behind the constellation of
Sagittarius in our night sky) $he solar system is a binary system in that
it has to suns 1 one sun is a -red giant8 and the other is a -bron
darf8) $he description of both suns ould indicate that they are in the
process of decline and decay) In most solar systems, the sun is the
primary consciousness but in the case of the /elon system, the primary
consciousness is the main planet hich is called /elus) Also unusually
is the presence of a second primary consciousness hich is the red
giant sun)
In other ords, there is a dominant consciousness that forms the
primary planet and the hole solar system, /elus, and a secondary
consciousness that makes up one of the suns 1 e?ectively /elus M and
/elus 9) $he solar system contains eight planets and a number of
moons) $hree planets orbit the bron darf sun and four planets orbit
around the red giant sun) $he eighth planet orbits both suns) $hree of
the planets are inhabitedS the primary planet /elus, one planet called
$iamat and the planet that orbits both suns called 4ibiru) A fourth
planet, called 7arduk, as also inhabited until one of 4ibiru6s moons
collided ith the planet causing the planet to become uninhabitable)
$he names of these planets ill be familiar to anyone ho has read the
Annunaki story that has been translated by Techaria Sitchin) Hoever,
you need to note that the story of these planets applies to the /elon
solar system and not to our solar system 1 see later)
$he /elon peoples have divided themselves into si0 di?erent -races8)
$his race division seems to be along the eAuivalent of -religious8 lines
in much the same ay as e on >arth could call ourselves 7oslem,
!eish or Euddhist etc, the /elon call themselves& !(undaa, .a, 7ila,
!ohnaan, Annunaki and Hathor)
$he Annunaki live e0clusively on 4ibiru hilst the other races live in
-colonies8 spread out over the surfaces of both /elus and $iamat) $hey
are a technological and industrial race but have kept themselves very
much to themselves ithin their home gala0y) $hey have had very little
interaction ith the other races of our Iniverse as they seem to be
very insular and uninterested in hat occurs outside of their on
gala0y) $his is hy so little as knon about them before they decided
to make the move to our solar system)
$he /elus system as in a state of decline, the /elus consciousness
seems to have e?ectively given up on life and as sloly inding
don before returning to source) Hoever, one /elon ship left the
gala0y and encountered an energy Bo that as directed from the
Iniversal energies toards >arth) :hen the ship returned to /elus and
related the story of =nding the energy Bo, it caused a huge hiatus
that led the /elus M consciousness to believe that -he8 should follo
the energy Bo as the energy as mistakenly believed to come from
-"od8 and the /elon peoples had obviously been specially chosen by
-"od8 to follo this energy)
Instead of being a solar system consciousness that as in decline,
/elus M appears to have taken on a religious+like fervour no believing
that -he8 had been chosen by "od and the /elon peoples must be
-"od6s chosen people8) "iven these ne revelations, /elus M
encouraged a form of religious schism ithin the si0 /elon races and all
si0 races began to vie themselves as -chosen8 and the race ho
could arrive at the end of the energy Bo =rst ould be the chosen of
both /elus M and "od) $his schism meant that they set about building
bigger and faster ships than any of the other races to arrive at the end
of the energy Bo =rst)
If you contrast this ith human history, you ill see that on >arth e
declared ar on our religious rivals)
$he /elon, hoever, have no history of using eapons or of armed
conBict) It is important to remember this fact hen e go on to e0plain
/elon activities hen they arrived at our solar system) In other ords,
there ere no ars or battles fought, no -star ars8 or inter+galactic
ars, beteen the /elon and any other of the semi+physical races nor
did the /elon -attack8 >arth using ar+like eapons of any kind) It also
needs to be understood that no race ithin our Iniverse has ever
developed eapons nor have any ars taken place) It is only humans
ho have uniAuely chosen to kill one another)
$he reports back from the semi+physical races investigations into /elon
activities also state very clearly that the /elon have had no contact
ith, nor did they use the energies of, the M*th Faction) $o reiterate&
none of the si0 /elon races use any ar+like eapons, they have not
fought in any ars and they do not have access to the energies of the
M*th Faction)
/elus M as the =rst to arrive at our solar system 1 -he8 had left his
on solar system to be cared for by /elus 9 hilst the /elon races
developed ships poerful enough to travel to our solar system) He
arrived about M,OOO human years ago) $he =rst action taken by /elus M
as to attempt to displace the >arth6s consciousness) $his attempt as
repulsed by the >arth6s consciousness and by the >arth6s guardians)
It appears as though /elus M intended to be in charge of the >arth, and
the hole solar system, by the time the /elon peoples arrived here)
:ith /elus M re(ected by the >arth, -he8 leaves the solar system and
travels to other regions of the Iniverse)
$he =rst of the /elon ships to arrive at our solar system did so about
9OO human years ago) Although the /elon -armada8 as folloing the
energy Bo from the Iniverse, they sent o? numerous ships to make
contact ith the other semi+physical races) In this ay, they developed
a Auite detailed knoledge of the other races and their technologies)
:hen the /elon ships began to arrive, the >arth and the >arth6s
guardians ould not allo them access to the solar system) :ith their
access denied, each of the /elon races set about observing life on
>arth and each began to form a strategy for overcoming the >arth6s
guardians and the >arth6s ob(ections)
In order to carry out their studies, the /elon began to implant souls on
their ay to >arth ith -spy+are8) $hese ere observing and
recording devices hich ere implanted into souls ithout their
approval and ithout their knoledge 1 a ma(or act of removing
freedom of choice) As their knoledge of human life increased, each
/elon race developed di?erent strategies and then put those strategies
into play at varying times)
For e0ample& $he Annunaki travelled back in time to ancient Sumeria
of about K,OOO years ago) As stated in Sitchin6s translations of the
Annunaki story, they dictated a story to a Sumerian scribe) $his story
as actually a combination of the early history of the Hebre peoples
mi0ed together ith the history of the /elon solar system) :hilst
Sitchin has alays maintained that the Annunaki fantasy story is the
basis of the .ld $estament, there are sources of information that have
come to light in the last 9O years hich can disprove Sitchin6s theory)
Also, the .ld $estament is a history book based on the e0periences of
the Hebre peoples) It as ritten as a record of their e0periences
over a long period of time) As a natural part of riting this history, it
as added to as each phase as completed) In other ords, it as
ritten at a time hen the events described had been lived through
and, as such, as a record of those events ritten don by Jabbis 1 it
as not dictated to a scribe) Sitchin6s translations of the Annunaki
fantasy states that it as dictated as a complete story and not a story
that as ritten as it evolved in the same ay as the .ld $estament
as)
$he hole purpose of dictating this fantasy story as to make humans
believe that the Annunaki ere our creator gods and that the Annunaki
created us to be a race of slaves) :ith this story embedded into the
human consciousness, hen the Annunaki revealed themselves in the
present time, they hoped they ould be elcomed as our gods and
given anything they anted by humans) $he real basis of the .ld
$estament is to be found in the archaeological =ndings at "obekli $epe
on the borders of IraA, $urkey and $urkistan 1 collectively knon as
-$he #ult of Angels8) $hese =ndings totally disprove the Annunaki
fantasy story)
$he .a and 7ila used channelled messages in an attempt to persuade
people to allo them access to >arth) $hese seem to have been
centred mainly on the islands of Haaii) $he !(undaa began to adopt
various disguises here they masAueraded as members of the other
semi+physical races, again through channelled means) $he !ohnaan
also adopted various disguises mainly as $he "alactic Federation,
Ashtar #ommand, $he "reat :hite Erotherhood, etc) $hey also took on
individual personas such as Pord 7etatron (later changed to Arch Angel
7etatron% as ell as Pord Sananda (claiming to be the #hrist
consciousness% and many other individuals, Arch Angels and Angels 1
the source of their adopted Angel personas being the =ndings at
"obekli $epe)
$hey also made numerous claims to have returned to >arth to free
humans from the -prison8 e had been incarcerated in folloing a
series of inter+race and inter+galactic ars) Jemember, from above,
none of the Iniversal races have ever developed eapons nor have
any ars taken place anyhere aay from >arth)
$he Hathor also used channelled means to contact people) $heir form
of channelling as ith musical seAuences to help people to heal
illness) Ey building up a folloing of their healing music, the Hathor
persuaded a group of people to sink to copper+lined shafts MOOm (222
feet% vertically into the ground) $hese copper tubes ere =lled ith
programmed AuartG crystals and ere knon as celestoriums) $o
celestoriums ere built but only one became fully active) $he
celestoriums ere designed for one purpose 1 to be giant -tuning
forks8 that resonated at freAuencies that ere designed to evict the
>arth6s consciousness from the planet alloing /elus M to take control)
Fortunately, the >arth6s guardians stepped in and destroyed both
celestoriums before they could ful=ll their designed function)
/elus M, hoever, had di?erent ideas)
"iven that /elus M had been unable to remove the >arth6s
consciousness, -he8 looked around for di?erent ays to control events
on >arth) Humans have had a tendency to try and control others,
usually stemming from greed) $his is nothing to do ith the energy
patterns of the M*th Faction,although I am sure that individuals ho
used M* energies provided a role model for others)
:ith the rise of the poer of money, those ho controlled banking
houses became more and more greedy and develop a ant for poer)
.ne person ho had a need as 7ayer Amschel Jothschild ho, along
ith Adam :eishaupt, established the Eavarian Illuminati in M,,L)
:eishaupt became a target for /elus M and, in a process that could be
described as a -alk+in8 took control of :eishaupt) In doing so, /elus M
controlled the Illuminati)
$he Eavarian Illuminati orked ith many poerful people and set out
an agenda for orld domination 1 the total control of all life on the
planet) Ey engineering events such as the French Jevolution, the
American Jevolution and the Jussian Jevolution, the Illuminati have
e?ectively controlled all aspects of human life and human thinking)
:ith the backing of /elus M (a solar system+siGed consciousness%, they
have had access to suQcient energy to allo them to achieve most of
their goals) $he goals they have not yet achieved are very much
underay and this is hy e have seen such an increase of
government and military control in recent years)
Hoever, the race is on 1 can the /elus M controlled Illuminati achieve
all of their aims before the end of 9OM9 hen people return to full
consciousness; + 4o)
Iniversal Jeactions
$he founding energies of this Iniverse are those of freedom of choice)
All souls that e0ist ithin this Iniverse have absolute freedom of
choice to choose their actionsS the only thing that cannot be done is to
act in such a ay that it removes the choice of another to act freely)
$he activities of the /elon have clearly broken this la and caused
ma(or repercussions throughout the hole of this Iniverse)
$he actions taken by the /elon that have broken this Iniversal la and
energy patterns are these&
M) $he implantation of monitoring devices into people ithout their
knoledge or approval)
9) $he control of an organisation (the Illuminati% hose intention is to
totally control every single aspect of human life by taking aay the
choices of the individual)
2) Ey far the greatest act of removing freedom of choice as the
attempt by =rst /elus M and then by the Hathor of the removal of the
>arth6s consciousness against Her choices)
$hese actions broke Iniversal Pa and disrupted the energy patterns
of the hole Iniverse) If e on >arth ere not so close to completing
$he Human Hlan, the actions of the /elon ould have forced this
Iniverse to collapse in on itself and return to source 1 literally to
destroy this Iniverse)
$he /elon have not been contaminated by the energies of the M*th
Faction nor have they been forced to take any actions by the M*th
Faction) $he /elon acted on their on) $here is no clear anser as to
hy the /elon acted in the ay in hich they have) $he only
conclusions that have been reached is that 1 to put it into human terms
1 /elus M had some kind of -religious madness8 hich infected the rest
of the /elon races forcing them to see themselves as -"od6s chosen
people8 ho should travel to live on -"od6s chosen planet8 and this is
hat brought them to >arth)
7any attempts ere made, by the other races as ell as the $hirteen,
to make the /elon return to their home gala0y and leave the >arth and
our solar system alone) $he /elon made many promises hich ere
never ful=lled) $he result as that the ma(ority of the /elon race as
evicted from this Iniverse and no inhabit a ne solar system that is
free Boating in the non+universal void)
Infortunately somehere in the region of 2 million /elon managed to
avoid eviction) $he e0planation of ho they managed to achieve this is
immense and not something that can be e0plained here) $hese 2
million /elon have been consistently misleading and attacking humans
through channelled means in the hope that they can disrupt $he
Human Hlan6s conclusions and prevent humans from achieving soul re+
integration)
$hese remaining /elon are only capable of remaining around our solar
system because of the help that misguided humans are giving to them)
$hese are humans ho have been misled by the /elon ithout their
realising and ho continue to ork ith the bogus /elon organisationsS
like Ashtar #ommand, Arch Angels and Angels etc, providing the
remaining /elon ith suQcient energies to maintain their position in
this Iniverse and attack the >arth) $he problem is that these people
totally believe that they are orking ith beings'entities that are doing
good and so they choose to continue orking ith them even though
the beings' entities they are orking ith are /elon 1 this is an
e0ample of free choice in action and further proof of the /elon
deliberately removing freedom of choice) $here are thousands of
people hoping for, and asking for, some kind of alien intervention and
the /elon are presenting themselves as those ho ful=l this desire)
The Pelon are :eeding, o= these human energies)
$he /elon have been condemned to e0pulsion from this Iniverse 1 all
of the /elon) It is only the actions of some humans that are preventing
the Iniverse from returning to full balance) $he biggest problem is that
humans accept channelled messages ithout Auestion) -If it is from a
non+human source then it must be something good8) If I said to you
that the sky is green, you ould demand proof hereas if a channelled
source said that the sky is green you ould say -really; I alays
thought it as blue 1 but if you say it is green then I ill alter my
perceptions to accommodate hat you say8)
It is this blind acceptance of these kinds of messages that has alloed
the /elon to take hold of many thousands of people on >arth) Also, as
e approach the end of $he Human Hlan, many people have realised
that time is no very short and that there appears to be a great deal of
ork still to do) $hese people are hoping that -someone8 ill come in
and take care of all of their problems for them) Again, the /elon have
created =ctitious beings'entities that make empty promises to take
responsibility for human inactions and fears)
.ver the years, I have spoken to many di?erent kinds of channellers
ho claim to be orking ith one race or another) I have alays
suggested that they Auestion the source of these channelled messages
to =nd out if the source is ho and hat they claim to be) In the fe
instances here the channeller has challenged their source, they have
alays found them to be /elon) I have also spoken to a number of
channellers ho state that they are -uncomfortable8 ith the beings
and material they channel but have continued because the channelling
ork makes them -feel special8) In the years that I have been trying to
track don /elon activity, I have read a huge amount of channelled
material) $o me, virtually all of these channelled sources are obviously
/elon and every fe months, or years, the messages totally change
usually in a ay that is totally contradictory to the previous message)
Even the sources change their names! Ta"e or e1ample the
being who calls himsel &etatron! :-e, frst began calling
himsel :'ord &etatron, and described himsel as being an
:(scended %irian, who had returned rom the universe to
which :he, had ascended to undo the problems caused by an
inter/galactic war o many thousands o years ago in our
2niverse! .n recent months, this &etatron now describes
himsel as :(rch (ngel &etatron,! :-e, has changed rom
being an :(scended %irian, to being an :(rch (ngel, and yet
the messages :he, produces are accepted without any "ind o
challenge * you are either o %irian origin or you are an
:angel,, you cannot be both!
.n other words, the s"y is greenR
In normal life, e Auestion most of hat e are told but it seems that
hen e come to channelled sources, e seem to leave common
sense behind and blindly accept hat the source tells us no matter
ho ridiculous or suspicious the messages are) :e really do need to
stop doing this) It is the blind acceptance of the messages from the
/elon that is the cause of so many of the current problems on >arth)
<y :eeding, the Pelon human energies in this way, the Pelon
are able to maintain their position around our solar system and
resist the demands o the 2niverse that they be evicted! <y
:eeding, the Pelon in this way, it also allows them to continue
to control the .lluminati and the plans o the .lluminati are to
depopulate the Earth leaving AFF million people to be their
slaves * e1actly what the Pelon want!
The tragedy is that the vast maKority o those who blindly
accept channelled messages are those who claim to be the
most :spiritual,! The only way in which these fnal Pelon can
be ully evicted rom this 2niverse is by humans reKecting them
and their deliberate lies and giving their ull support to &other
Earth!
:e, humans, are here on >arth to =nd ansers to many Auestions and
e have been inordinately successful in so doing) In the last ,,OOO
years, e have orked very closely ith 7other >arth to =nd the
ansers needed to complete $he Human Hlan) $he Human Hlan is a
cooperative venture by the >arth and humans orking together and
the solution to >arth and human problems can only be resolved by the
>arth and humans) 4obody from outside can do anything on our
behalfS nobody can step in and solve these problems for us or to take
on our responsibility to ourselves and the >arth 1 to do so ould break
the free choice the >arth and humans made hen e began $he
Human Hlan)
:e have found the ansers e needed to =nd by humans and the
>arth orking together, even ith this situation of humans choosing to
support the /elon, there is nothing to prevent us from completing $he
Human Hlan and achieving soul re+integration) $his ill be achieved,
despite the problems caused by human gullibility and lack of
responsibility, before 9M'M9'M9)
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Pisa& #hris has been somehat psychic since the age of , and has the
ability to read the Akashic Jecords and I ant to elcome #hris
$homas)
#hris& Pisa it6s nice to be here)
Pisa& Povely, no in one of your intervies I did hear you talk about
having the ability Auite young to read auras) Dou seemed to develop
psychic ability Auite young but it asn6t really supported, and you
suppressed it somehat)
#hris& 4o) 7y mother had comparatively strong #hristian vies and so
anything that had to do ith psychic abilities as heavily froned
upon, to put it mildly)
Pisa& So can you really suppress it, can you do that kind of thing, can
you sitch it o?, or did you (ust stop talking about it;
#hris& Deah, it6s (ust like everything else, it as (ust a Auestion of not
orking ith it and trying to think of something else, you kno)
Pisa& So you could stop yourself from seeing people6s auras;
#hris& 4ot entirely, but I stopped talking about it, and didn6t really
develop hat I could do)
Pisa& And hen did that change for you;
#hris& :hen I as early 9O6s) I met someone ho as developing
themselves into their on version of Ymedium+ship6, and so, really, I
started to pick it up from there and investigate things much more
deeply) I found that I had, like a lot of people obviously, that I had a
very natural healing ability) :hich I then anted to develop as much as
I possibly could)
Pisa& And you mean (ust energetic hands+on kind of healing;
#hris& Dup) And, also like a lot of healers, I found that I had an empathic
response ith the people I as orking ith) In other ords, I could
feel hat their problems ere ithin my on body) Eut I6ve managed
to =nd a ay of 4.$ hanging onto those feelings, if you like, so that by
recogniGing that they eren6t mine 1 they ere somebody else6s 1 I
could get rid of them) A lot of healers have problems actually ending
up ith an accumulation of their clients6 problems)
Pisa& Deah, a very uncomfortable state to be in I6m sure)
#hris& Ah, yes very) And then I made a conscious decision one day to
get into hat people call Ypsychic surgery6) And so, that6s the ay I
developed along those lines) >ventually, hat I ended up being able to
do as to literally read inside people6s bodies, a bit like an 7JI
scanner) I could actually see in 2+dimensions and in real time hat as
actually going on)
Pisa& 4o hat e6ve seen here in Australia of psychic surgery is
footage from predominantly Indonesia, usually ith the agenda to
paint it as a fraud) It is people literally putting their hands in somebody
else6s body) :ere you getting to that point;
#hris& Des, and I decided not to) Again it felt to me as though I had a
clear choice) I could go either ay) I could go into hat they called the
intrusive psychic surgery, or non+intrusive psychic surgery, and I
thought of putting my hands inside someone6s body ould scare the
life out of me, never mind the one I6m orking on) So I thought I6m not
going to go don that route) P.P!
Pisa& P.P! I don6t actually blame you at all5 lol)
#hris& P.P! It is, you kno, Auite fascinating in the Hhilippines they do
have a tradition) Infortunately, you do also have a lot of charlatans
orking in those kinds of ay by secreting little blood clots, around the
place C all that sort of thing) So I felt that if I can ork ithout even
touching the people, then it6s proof to me that I6m doing hat I think
I6m doing, and it6s proof to the person I6m orking ith that e6re dong
something that is genuine but also di?erent)
Pisa& :hen it comes to the Akashic, though, I6m interested in a couple
of sort of practical aspects of the Akashic Jecord) :here does the
Akashic reside; If e talk densities, or dimensions, or realms + here
ould you say the Akashic lives;
#hris& Jight))) $here are actually multiple layers to it) So hat you
actually have is an Akashic of people, so on a human level) All the ord
Akashic means is YJecord6 so it6s pure and simply a record of events
that occurred) So there6s an Akashic that orks ith the >arth and ith
human activities) $hen there6s Akashic that orks at solar system
level) $hen there6s another layer that orks at the "alactic level, and
then obviously there6s then the overall picture hich is part of the
Iniversal Akashic)
So essentially, it6s recorded ithin a scienti=c ay I suppose you could
say it6s recorded ithin Space'$ime) It6s actually recorded ithin
energetic sirls ithin the actual structure of the Iniverse itself)
Pisa& So ho does this relate to hat e call the collective
consciousness;
#hris& Des, you could see the collective consciousness as being one
layer of the Akashic)
Pisa& So lets say, for an e0ample, the collective consciousness is an in+
the+moment repository of the potentials, as ell as the thoughts and
the various potentials as to the ay events could go, and yet once it6s
done, once it6s happened, it becomes part of the Akashic;
#hris& >ssentially yes) :e live in a Iniverse that is constructed of the
energies of Yfreedom of choice6) So literally every soul that e0ists ithin
this Iniverse has absolute Yfreedom of choice6 to choose their actions)
:hat you cannot do is to act in such a ay that removes somebody
else6s choice to act freely) So hat you have on a human level& :e all
have our Yfree choice6 so e e0ercise that free choice in taking the
decisions e do to carry on ith our lives) Eut once our decision is
made then a =0ed point occurs, if you like, and it6s that action that is
recorded rather than , as you say, the potentials and the possibilities)
Pisa& So if you anted to read potentials and possibilities, you6d look at
the layer that is the collective consciousness, and if you anted to look
at the history, you6d look at the level you call the Akashic)
#hris& uhmmm5 yes) (Paugh% It6s an immensely complicated Auestion)
I mean to anser properly)
Pisa& .)X) "ood anser) (Paughs%
#hris& Eut yes, that6s a reasonable summation of it) $here are alays
potential situations hich can and cannot occur, and then it depends
on hat choices made, either individually or collectively, as to hich
direction that potential is taken)
Pisa& :hen you say that you can 'read' the Akashic))) :ith regard to
language))) hat language is the Akashic ritten in; <oes it come to
you in ords; :hat does it look like; Is it in images;
#hris& It can be a combination of images, and it6s more like thoughts
than ords) So hatever language your brain orks in, or thinks in,
then it ould be in that form) I don6t kno ho other people ork but
for me, I have a very strong connection ith my on Higher Self) And
so, basically e ork together if you like to look for hatever ansers I
happen to be looking for at the particular time) $herefore, the ansers
come through the Higher Self and then into any room they can =nd in
this craGy brain of mine) And then my brain translates it into the
images, or ords, or thoughts, to =nd the anser)
Pisa& So ho much of it is left up to your personal interpretation; Ho
much do you bring to it;
#hris& Hopefully nothing) $his is hat I try to do) $he essential test to
me is to 1 if I6m looking for the anser to a Auestion 1 is to ask that
Auestion from about 9K di?erent directions) From as many directions as
I can possibly think of) So that hat I6m actually homing in on is the
reality of the situation 1 of hat actually did occur) Eecause it is very
easy to put an interpretation on it from your on lifetime6s e0perience)
And so I try very hard to avoid that by asking as many Auestions as I
can think of to try and ork out really hat the event as)
Pisa& :hen did you realiGe that hat you ere doing as reading the
Akashic;
#hris& Again, it ould have been sort of mid 9O6s)
Pisa& And ho;
#hris& (laugh% Actually I6ve never thought about that one) 7y very =rst
book + $he very =rst manuscript I ever rote 1 I really anted to look at
hat Human history as all about 1 :hy e6re here, hat e6re doing,
and hy e6re doing it) And so I set about on that really 1 of unraveling
hat is the reality of human history rather than the rubbish that is in
the history books) And so I (ust began on that process) It seemed a
perfectly natural ay for doing it at the time)
So obviously, it as me orking ith my Higher Self, and it as
presumably hatever my Higher Self had planned as the ne0t thing I
as supposed to do in my life as to get this manuscript) So, that's
ho I got started) And I6d come across something that as
contradictory to hat the history books say5 So I6d think about that
and then ask various Auestions around the Akashic, and then I6d =nd a
reference to it somehere) :hether it as to people I didn6t kno
speaking, like to strangers speaking on a bus, or hatever) I6d =nd
that they ere having a conversation about the point that I as trying
think about) .r, I6d pick up a book somehere and I6d =nd a reference
to hat I as looking at, and =nd that there as a con=rmation of hat
the Akashic said, rather than hat the history books said) And so,
really, it became a developmental process from that, and I found that
every time I did come up ith an anser to something, hich as
contradictory, someho or other it as con=rmed)
So then gradually over a fe years, I learned to recogniGe hat as
the Akashic and hat ere my on thoughts, and that I could trust
hat as coming from the Akashic)
Pisa& 4o one of the ords you use, and that I haven6t heard before, is
the ord '/elon') :ho are they; .r, hat are they;
#hris& :ithin the Iniverse there are M2 races of beings ho are, if you
like, human siGed) $heir souls have an energy pattern that ould
roughly correspond to hat humans are) So L of these races are
entirely non+physical) In other ords, they e0ist purely as a soul
energy) $hey have no physical form or physical density) Eut the outline
of the energy that they6re constructed from is basically humanoid) And,
VVZ of the souls that e0ist on >arth ho originate from these L races)
So e6re 1 essentially, all Humans are aliens in some respects if you
like)
Eut, then e have in beteen these non+physical races and the full
physical Human e have, hat the Akashic describes as semi+physical
races, and there are , of them) So these are the guys, ho IF.s, the
aliens, and the "reys, and all the rest) So, they6re all part of the semi+
physical races)
4o one of the semi+physical races calls itself /elon) 4o they
originate from a "ala0y that in the night sky is in the direction of the
constellation of Sagittarius) It6s about 29 "ala0ies beyond it) Eut in the
same ay that humans, you kno, you6re human, IYm Human, you
ouldn6t call yourself human) Dou6d call yourself Australian, I6d call
myself :elsh, or !eish, or "reek, or #hristian, or 7oslem, or hatever
it is + e ouldn6t say Human) And so the /elon themselves are made
up of L di?erent races in the same ay as Australian is one Jace,
:elsh is another race)
So the /elon divide themselves up in that same ay, and there are L of
them) $hey usually call themselves by hatever their race name
happens to be rather than call themselves /elon) $he L races are the
Anunnaki, the Hathor, !(undaa, !ohnaan, .a and 7ila) I6m sure a lot of
people have heard of the Anunnaki, a fe less people probably recall
the Hathor) Some ill have heard of the .a and 7ila, particularly in
Haaii I understand here the .a and 7ila have concentrated on in
their communications to >arth) And so that6s ho they really are)
And the /elon are a strange race in many respects in that they6ve kept
themselves very much to themselves) $hey didn6t travel out of their
home gala0y as it ere, unlike say the Hleiadians, or the "reys, ho
get pretty much everyhere hen it comes don to it) So the /elon
stayed ithin their home "ala0y, but someho or other had a
revelatory moment and decided they ould come to >arth and ith
basically the intent of basically removing people o? the planet so that
they could take over the planet for themselves)
4o, I kno that sound like the script from a YE6 sci+= movie but this is
hat they6ve been doing ever since for the last 2OO, or so, years)
Pisa& So, to recap + there are M2 races that are essentially human siGed
and the soul is human siGed)
#hris& Deah, human shaped anyay)
Pisa& L of them have no form, they6re (ust energetic and VVZ of
humans here on >arth are from these races) $here are then , that are
semi+physical , one of hich is called the /elon, but the /elon have
ithin it L races)
#hris& Des)
Pisa& So hen you say they had a revelatory moment to come here, e
ere already here then;
#hris& Des this only occurred 2KO years ago) 4o, let me rephrase that a
little bit + MOOO years ago it occurred in human time frames + MOOO
years ago they had this revelatory moment) It then took them LKO
years (ust to get here)
Pisa& So hat about the concept that e have been interfered ith for
a lot longer than that;
#hris& :hat do you mean + the Anunnaki story from Sitchin6s material;
Pisa& $hings like that))) Deah))) the interference on this planet goes back
MOOO6s of years)
#hris& Jubbish)
Pisa& .h .)X) (Paughs%
[Sitchin6s $ranslations of the Anunnaki 7aterial + A Fabricated Story[
#hris& 4o, 4o, I understand a lot of people believe in this very strongly
because of things like Sitchin6s translations of the Anunnaki material)
4o, I have read pretty much all of Sitchin6s books on his translations,
and I think the most interesting thing about it is + a proof, if you like,
that this is actually a fabricated story) It6s made up by the Anunnaki)
If you think of the .ld $estament hich Sitchin says it is the basis of
the Anunnaki story) If you think about the ay the .ld $estament is
ritten, hat you have is& it6s (ust a record, it6s a story book of all the
peoples that are ithin the story + ho they travelled, ho they
moved, and ho they ended up in #anaan) And that6s all it is) It (ust
says& this is hat e did and this is ho e did it + kind of idea)
If you research in translations hat virtually every section of hat the
stories says, this story is being dictated to a scribe) In other ords,
somebody turned up ith a full story already put together, and they6re
dictating that story to someone hose taking it don into clay tablets)
$hat doesn6t happen) 4ot if it is genuine history, then it doesn6t happen
that ay) It6s (ust ritten as people ho are undergoing and living
through it 1 it says ell e6re going here 1 Dou kno e6re travelling
from >gypt to #anaan, and this is the e0periences e have had along
the ay)
Pisa& :ell if the /elon only turned up 2KO years ago, as there another
presence here prior to them that came here to mess around;
#hris& 4o, not really) I6ll tell you))) I6ll give you a brief history of the
Iniverse) >ven Auicker than Stephen Haking can do it&
$he Iniverse =rst came into being roughly M* Eillion years ago, and
that6s about the only date the scientists seem to have got right, as far
as the Akashic is concerned) $he purpose of the Iniverse is& $here is a
#reationary Source out there + shall e say, hoever you ant to
describe it 1 ho had a thought& [:hat ould happen if;[ $hat6s about
the only ay I can describe ho these things ork) So 'hat ould
happen if'))) there ere souls ho had free choice and freedom of
movement throughout space ith all the energy patterns necessary to
support and sustain that life;
And that6s the reason for the Iniverse) Easically, hat ould happen if
every soul that as in this Iniverse had Yfreedom of choice6;
$he Iniverse is a #onscious Eeing + Its Another Soul +
It Has #hoices + It #an <o :hatever it #hooses to <o
So the =rst things to be created are))) the Iniverse envelope itself is a
conscious being, it6s a soul itself, made up of M2 separate beings, M2
separate souls) Eut then ithin that you have hat e look at as a
structure of a gala0y is actually a consciousness itself, as ell + its
another soul)
So everything that is ithin the Iniverse is alive) It has consciousness
and has choices that it can do hatever it is that it chooses to do) Eut
part of the purpose of the Iniverse as then to ork ith souls ho
are of this Human scale) So that e had choices to move freely around
the "ala0ies and have e0periences and e0plore hatever e chose to
e0plore)
Pisa& So that e ere compatible no matter here e ent;
#hris& Des) And that6s ho it as originally, and then these L non+
physical races said& -:e6re missing something)8 Dou kno& -e can
interact ith every other soul in the Iniverse, but e can6t touch
something, e can6t feel something physically8) And so a decision as
then made collectively ithin the Iniverse to think of& -hat ould
human life be like;8 So the semi+physical races ere brought into
being (as a sort of half+ay stage, as it ere% and then humans, or the
>arth started to form and our solar system started to form)
So basically, the L non physical races ere =rst created MOO 7illion
years ago) So you, as a soul, are MOO 7illion years old) $hen the semi
physical races came into being, ere created speci=cally to be semi
physical about 2O 7illion years ago) Eut in beteen, about *O 7illion
years ago, the solar system started to form, came into being, started
to look at hat kind of life it anted to have C ho it could e0press
life) So, I kno the scienti=c vie is that the >arth is * Eillion years old)
Eut that6s based on a meteorite that has come from somehere, no
one knos here it came from, that as found on the >arth a fe
years ago) $hey put it through some testing eAuipment and came up
ith a =gure of * Eillion years)
:hich I think is completely a lot of rubbish and actually scientists
themselves say it6s a complete load of rubbish, because hen
scientists =rst started orking out ho old life as on >arth , they
came up ith a =gure of 9K 7illion years and that6s hat the Akashic
says) $hat 9K 7illion years ago life started to develop on >arth)
Pisa& So does that mean that >arth Humans are the pinnacle of
evolution in terms of vessels that hold soul mass;
#hris& 4o) :e6re (ust another layer of e0perimentation ith choice) See
everything that6s souls that e0ist on this planet6s Iniverse is of human
scale is eAual) :e6re all the same) 4o one6s di?erent, hether e6re
non+physical, semi+physical or human) :e6re all essentially eAual) So
there6s no such thing as pinnacles of development) It6s (ust another
level of e0ploration of hat is possible)
Pisa& I guess hat I meant in terms of pinnacle is the most physical
vessel)
#hris& Alright in those terms& Des) $he human is the densest form of life
in the Iniverse, hichever ay you ant to look at that) <on6t forget
that everything is energy so e see our bodies ith the physical but
they6re not, they6re (ust highly compacted energy) So in those terms
humans are the densest form of life in the Iniverse) :e6re the most
highly compacted form of energy forms that e0ist)
4othing like a human e0ists anyhere else in the Iniverse) .nly ithin
our solar system can human life e0ist in the form that it6s in)
Pisa& So does that mean that all the >$s are essentially inter+
dimensional in terms of as opposed to e0traterrestrial;
#hris& Im))) they6re both, because >$s cannot e0ist in their normal
state ithin our solar system) $hey have to alter their energy patterns
and their physical density for us to see them) $his is hy you get so
many reports of IF.s suddenly disappearing from sight or you couldnYt
see an >$ inner eye kind of thing) It6s because their energy patterns
are entirely di?erent to ours) $hey don6t 4A$IJAPPD e0ist at the kind of
energy compaction levels that e e0ist at) So to come into our solar
system they have to actually alter their energy patterns Auite radically
to make themselves visible)
Pisa& And hat are your thoughts on let6s (ust pick a couple of ell
knon >$s that are supposedly here because the "reys and say the
Jeptiles) :hat are your thoughts on hy they6re here and hat their
agenda is;
#hris& $he "reys are an interesting bunch) So that6s your classic >$ you
kno (ust over a metre tall, grey skin and big black eyes) $hey don6t
actually have big black eyes, $heir eyes are actually bright yello ith
vertical irises) It6s (ust the energy patterns ithin our solar system
means they literally have to shield their eyes or otherise they ould
get damaged) So they basically ear eye shades)
$hey have physiological problems) $hey see their bodies as being
unstable and in the process of deteriorating5 and so, they6ve come to
>arth to learn about human physiology to see hether they can learn
about a more physical form that they can adopt to themselves to make
their body stronger) $hat is essentially hy the "reys are here)
Pisa& $hat sounds like nature made a mistake some ho in making
them)
#hris& 4o, not really because everything is an e0periment) 4obody
knos hat these things are) $his is hy e6re here to =nd out hat
happens) $he reason hy the semi physical races are there is to =nd
out hat happens) And so, as far as the "reys are concerned, that6s
ho they see their body in that they have slight problems ith it)
It6s not a ma(or problem, ultimately to sort the "reys out, but they6re
here as much out of curiosity as anything else to see hat they can
learn from humans)
Pisa& <o they pose any real threat to humans;
#hris& 4o) 4obody does other than the /elon) All the other races are
essentially benevolent to everybody else) $hey get on very ell) It6s
only the /elon) For some strange reason the /elon seem Auite biGarre
in their approach to things)
So the other races you6ve got the Hleiadians, again another semi
physical race) $hey act like the universal diplomatic core, getting
involved in pretty much everything that goes on ithin the Iniverse)
$hey are regular visitors back and fourth to earth and they6re very
human in appearance)
$he ne0t one is the Elues) Have you yourself come across the Elues;
Pisa& :ould that be the ones depicted in Indian culture sort of like the
blue <eities;
#hris& Im, no not Auite) In terms of living entities, the Elues are like
cartoon characters, or pantomime) $hey are very short and covered in
thick blue hair) Eut they are geneticists) $hat6s here their interests lie
is ithin genetics) Ho our genetics are built and ho they go
together)
Pisa& .h, is this hat :hitely Strieber described;
#hris& Im5 could very ell be) I can6t remember hat he as riting
about, um5 but there is these small blue characters but they ork
very closely ith the "reys because they6re trying to =nd the genetic
anser) So they visit the >arth Auite a bit as ell, and yes several
people have ritten here they had close encounters ith the alien
races) $hey have described the Elues and the "reys)
So you6ve got those and then you6ve got those ho come from Sirius of
course, and they6re very similar in appearance to the "reys but a bit
taller) $hey6re very friendly toards us and have had an aful lot of
contact ith people on >arth) $here6s a tribe of people in 4orth Africa
called the <ugong tribe ho have a very detailed history of Sirius 1
knon ell before any :estern scientists got there) So yes, they6ve
had close contact ith this Sirian race) And again, they6re very friendly)
$he people ho6ve had the most to do ith >arth, e don6t actually
have a name for because they6re name for themselves doesn6t
translate into any kind of >arth language) Eut they originate from a
star system knon as 4"#K3* ) So that is their catalogue number
basically) :hich is located in the night sky somehere in the arc of the
Hleiadian stars, but many gala0ies beyond the Hleiades) $hey are the
ones ho orked ith the >arth more than any other race, because
they are master geneticists)
So if the >arth ants a ne plant form, or a ne animal form designed
to ork on >arth, then she ould call in these beings from the 4"#K3*
star system and they ork closely ith the >arth to develop a ne
form of life) $hey really are superb at hat they do, ithout any
agenda, to help hatever planet reAuires their help)
4"#K3* star system
.bserver& :arrington #ollegiate
$elescope& Faulkes $elescope
Pisa& And hat about humanity herself) :ere they involved in the
creation of these di?erent races on >arth;
#hris& 4o) It is (ust bio+diversity) Dou kno people ere black skinned
live in hot climates because a black skin is most appropriate for a hot
climate) Pike people ith paler skins live in cooler climates because
that6s more appropriate to the kind of climate)
Pisa& Eut if VVZ of humans are from the non physical races are e
representing at least L of those races;
#hris& :ell yes, each of those races do fall into distinct races) So they
are in separate from each other) So yes, they ill be represented on
the earth as being slightly di?erent, but I mean e ouldn6t be able to
tell the di?erence) >ven a very good psychic ouldn6t be able to tell
the di?erence) Eut there is a certain amount of variation in human
form 1 and obviously look at the !apanese people, they tend to be fairly
short ith that sort of yelloish colour skin, and then you look at the
4ordic races hich are very tall ith pale skin) So, there are variations
that could reBect people coming from one of the L non physical races,
but really it6s much more to do ith human genetic patterns and
energy patterns ithin particular regions that create the variation in
human form)
Pisa& So you said the only ones that really pose a threat are the /elon)
Eut hat kind of threat;
#hris& :ell essentially they ant humans o? the planet) :hen they
=rst came here about 2KO years ago, as I said, they took a look at the
place and each of the L /elon races took on a di?erent strategy) So the
Anunnaki concocted a story hich is Sitchin6s translations) It6s based
on certain facts that they6ve also embroidered considerably to make it
look as though they are man6s creators)
So hat the Anunnaki hoped as that the humans at this time ould
get hold of Sitchin6s translations, and elcome them as our gods and
elcome them in hen they turned up, at the present time, that6s hat
it6s all about) 4o the Anunnaki story is a combination of stories so if
you go ay back into history hat you =nd is& $here is an
archaeological dig going on at the moment in a place called "obekli
$epe) :hich is on the borders of 4orthern IraA, southern $urkey and
$urkmenistan I think it is)
"obekli $epe
All that is there is an old temple comple0, hat archaeologists are
describing as the oldest comple0 ever found on earth hich they date
to being M*,OOO years ago, but the Akashic dates it as more ,,OOO
years ago) \Hlease 4.$>& #hris, in a private email to Herbert, corrects
his misstatement by clarifying this point, as he, in fact, meant to say
that the Akashic dates this comple0 at being M3,OOO years ago, putting
it in par ith the dating of the Hyramids of >gypt, South America, $ibet)
See post ] MK*)^ !ust don the road form "obekli $epe is the ancient
biblical city of Ir of the #haldeas, hich is here Abraham originated)
$he .ld $estament is all about Abraham and his descendants, and also
!udaism, #hristianity, and Islam) $hese all originated from Abraham)
$his area around "obekli $epe they called '>den') And, they ere
attacked by a race ho came from the north, ho they called 'gods')
So this is the origin here it says in the .ld $estament -$all Hale "ods8
coming from the 4orth and mating ith the locals) So hat you have
is))) em ) ) ) if you look at the people of $urkey and IraA at the moment
they are pretty much of the same appearance) $hey are of medium
height, dark+haired and olive skinned) So you can imagine people at
that time living in >den suddenly =nding themselves confronted ith
people ho are fair+skinned, fair+haired and something like 3 or V foot
tall)
Eecause hat these tall northerners ere, the people that invaded this
area around Ir de #haldeas ere hangovers from a di?erent human
race hich scientists called gigantopithicus) And they no longer e0ist
on the planet) So they have no <4A connection ith current humans,
ith Homo Sapiens) And so hat they did as to mate ith people and
create this ne sort of semi race that totally died out) $he local people
ho lived in >den actually attacked these northerners and they
destroyed them all, they killed them all, massacred them totally)
$his is the reason hy they left >den as to get aay from the fact
that they had killed their gods) $ravelled don into >gypt, and then
became the !eish race, hich then formed the .ld $estament and
these stories have been ritten as e0periences of hat they had
e0perienced as a race) So, that part of the Anunnaki story of these Y$all
Hale 4orthern gods6 came don C mate ith the inhabitants and they
create this ne genetic strain) $hen on top of that, ithin Sitchin6s
translations, you have planets that are talked about hich are actually
the planets of the /elon home solar system, and events that occurred
ithin the /elon solar system) So, the planet called 7arduk hit one of
the moons of another planet and dislodged a lot of that planet) Dou
kno that sort of thing)
And you also have a planet called 4ibiru ithin the Anunnaki'/elon
solar system) 4o, the /elon solar system has))) um))) V planets)))
(can't remember o? hand, its been a hile since I looked at this
stu?))))%, but V planets, and its got 9 suns) 4o, 2 planets)))er))) or)))
hichever ay it is; )))can't remember o? hand))) 2 planets orbit
around one sun, and * planets orbit around the other sun, and then
one planet orbits both suns) So it has a huge orbit and that6s 4ibiru)
And the Anunnaki originate on that travelling planet) And so, hat
they6ve done is to create a story that combines very early human
history C their on history to try and make us believe that e are their
creation 1 that the Anunnaki created us + but it6s a false story)
4o, I6m not saying Sitchin made it up for hatever reason, because in
fairness, having read all of Sitchin6s books, he has done his e0treme
best to translate these clay tablets that are ritten in Sumerian
cuneiform riting that have been buried in the sands for KOOO years)
So I6m not saying he6s rong, I6m saying the story itself is false)
Pisa& Eut if they6ve only been her 2KO years, e eren6t doing a real
good (ob it either before then so) ) ) Paugh
#hris& :ell if you ant to look at real human history, it6s very di?erent
again to ho the historians have reported it) As far as I6m concerned,
you kno, the early form of human life that appeared on the planet, I
don6t kno hat =gure they put to it these days 1 about *O 7illion
years ago or something like that, and e6ve sloly developed since)
And that6s not correct)
:hat e have is several di?erent forms of very early humans living on
the planet) $he >arth herself is a consciousness) She is a soul that
creates life, so the animals and plant life on the planet are actually a
creation of her6s) $he >arth, herself, actually chose and designed plant
and animal life ith the help of the semi physical race 4"# K3*) As
part of that, obviously she also developed human forms, because that
as the purpose of our solar system as to e0plore the potential of the
human body form)
4o every single planet ithin our solar system supported life at that
time) So, hen life began *O million years ago ithin our solar system,
every single planet had life on it) And there ere M2 planets originally +
not the V e currently have) And * of the planets disintegrated for
ant of a better ay of describing them, because if you think of a
planet as being a soul 1 a consciousness ithin it6s on right 1 then it
has the choice that every other soul in the universe has) And they
decided they did not ant to be a part of this Human >0periment) And
so they decided to leave the Solar System)
Infortunately, that created diQculties in that to of the planets
e0ploded and hat they did as to rip through the solar system and
destroy all life on all the planets other than >arth) >arth, herself, came
very close to giving up and e nearly lost all life on the planet at that
time) $his as 2)3 7illion years ago) So that6s hen the dinosaurs and
all life as destroyed 2)3 7illion years ago)
Eut the >arth decided to start again) At that time, hat she did as to
develop #ro+7agnon man) :hat you =nd is #ro+7agnon man is located
on every single continent at the same time) So, here
paleoanthropologists start digging around looking for old bones, hat
they =nd is that our ancestors, #ro+7agnon man, hich later
developed into Homo Sapiens originates spontaneously 2)L 7illion
years ago on every single continent) Eut they don6t ant us to kno
that) $here is an aful lot of hat is buried beneath the soil that
remains hidden Auite deliberately by scientists)
.n one level they don6t ant to do anything that contradicts stories in
the Eible and that is ritten into the charter of APP AJ#HA>.P."I#AP
ASS.#IA$I.4S around the orld) Also of course hat is underneath all
this cover+up is the Anunnaki story hich has been going around for a
very long time and higher levels of Freemasons for e0ample and
Illuminati =rmly believe in that story) And that is hat they6re trying to
present as fact to most people)
Eut hen you start looking properly at archaeological research and
anthropological research, you ill =nd that every single continent on
>arth had #ro+7agnon arrive spontaneously 2)L 7illion years ago)
Spreading Homo Sapiens (#ro+7agnon%
[Dou ill =nd that every single continent on >arth had #ro+7agnon
arrive spontaneously)))[
Human history as far as it is presented in its oQcial sense, is all a pack
of lies) It really bears no resemblance to the reality of hat has gone
on on >arth)
Pisa& Eut even if e (ust looked at the last MOOO years e really aren6t
doing a very good (ob of it, in terms of ars and ) ) )
#hris& .h sure e6re coming to that) So hat e have is 2)L 7illion
years ago e start o? ith #ro+7agnon man, and that developed very,
very sloly) I mean let6s face it you6ve got a nice life 1 you6re
andering around the planet free of oQcials, you have all the possible
plants to provide for you) 4o ars, no violence, no battles , no
animosity beteen peoples 1 :HD :.IP< D.I :A4$ $. #HA4">;
Pisa& $here6s no orrying about hat you ant to do hen you gro up
and hat you6re going to do to pay the bills) Paughs)
#hris& Paughs) So that6s hat they did) $hey didn6t need to develop)
I6m not criticiGing #ro+7agnon man, I6ve nothing against them, but
essentially they ere more like animals than they ere humans,
because they didn6t have a hole soul that as in the body) :hat they
essentially had as a group soul) So essentially, they e0isted on the
level of a mass consciousness) $hey e0isted ithin an earth
consciousness but they ere not individuals, themselves) :hat as
needed, or hat as part of the purpose of this Iniverse, as to =nd
out hether e could have individual Human Eeings, and #ro+7agnon
as very ,very slo in developing into a body form that could
accommodate the hole soul)
So hat e had as our friends from the 4"#K3* star system ere
asked by >arth to come in and investigate hat the problem as) :hy
as #ro+7agnon so slo in developing into a full human being) And
they took up residence on Pemuria) $his is here Pemuria comes from
in our mass conscious memories, that is, it as somehere here
humanity as investigated as to =nd out hy e ere so slo in
developing) Iltimately the Auestion as not fully solved even by the
4"#K3*, so collectively, but up to those souls ho anted to be a part
of hat as going on)
>arth decided to start another e0periment and e kno that
e0periment as Atlantis) Atlantis did e0ist) It as a ma(or continent that
spanned the coast of Ireland and the #aribbean basin and at the time
the continent of South America as much further out into the Haci=c
than it is no) So hat e did on Atlantis as to genetically manipulate
the basic body form of #ro+7agnon)
Pisa& :hen you say 6e6 hat do you mean ;
#hris& All those souls of the non+physical races ho anted to come to
>arth to e0periment ith hat it is like to be physical and human)
Pisa& So e ere doing that from a non+physical perspective though)
#hris& 4o, because hat e anted as a physical body) So e orked
ith #ro+7agnon6s body form 1 accelerated its development, and e
ended up ith a human body form that ful=lled all reAuirements that
the >arth had set for herself and that the L non+physical races had set
for themselves) :hich is a physical human being ho is capable of
accommodating the hole of the soul of one of the non+physical races)
4.: $HA$ HI7A4 E>I4" (in capital letters% as able to do so much
more than e are capable of doing no) So in other ords, it as
highly developed, of psychic capability, psychic potential) :e
communicated ith each other psychically) :e could communicate
ith all living things psychically) :e did very little in the ay of food
because the body as very much less dense than e6re used to, and
so far as the earth as concerned, e had achieved hat she had set
out to achieve) :hich as a perfect human being) $hat =lled all the
criteria of everybody ithin the Iniverse)
Pisa& So hat ent rong;
#hris& >nergy, unfortunately, and it6s alays, alays energy)
>verything comes back to energy in the end) :hat e found as that
the Y>arth herself resonates at a freAuency of ,)KL cycles per second
(or HG)% $hat base note freAuency of the >arth 1 the base or root chakra
of every living single thing on the planet resonated at ,)KL cycles per
second, but that freAuency as too lo a freAuency for the hole of
the soul to remain intact ithin the physical body)
Pisa& So at the time of Pemuria, you could incarnate ith the hole of
the soul, but you couldn6t hold it for long;
#hris& 4o not Pemuria but Atlantis) Atlantis is here e developed this
body formula) $he human ife span at the time of Atlantis could be
anything up to 9OOO 1 2OOO years) So you kno the old biblical one
about 7ethuselah living till he as VOO and something years old) $hat
as actually true)
Pisa& Having babies at 3OO and stu?) Paughs
#hris& Dea) So that as our life+span but e couldn6t hold the hole of
the soul ithin the body so e started losing some of the higher
psychic functions) And this is hen e started e0perimenting to see if
there ere ays around that) So there are people ho have very bad
memories of Atlantis, of genetic engineering and genetic
e0perimentation and all of that sort of stu?) $his is right at the end of
Atlantis , because hen e ere having problems people did
e0periment a lot, and e ended up ith all sorts of biGarre
combinations and gene structures ithin peoples6 bodies)
:e ended up in a situation here (this is a huge story but% e ended
up ith a bacteria hich e couldn6t control, and so hat e decided
to do collectively 1 so, all the souls ho ere on Atlantis at that time
collectively decided to prevent this bacteria from reaching other areas
of the planet) :e destroyed the continent) So literally e sank the
continent of Atlantis into the >arth6s magma core (KK&K,% to destroy
and contain this bacteria) And the >arth took *O,OOO years to recover
from that)
So, e destroyed Atlantis something like LK,OOO years ago)
Pisa& $his isn6t the Yblack goo6 is it;
#hris& :hat, the Yblack goo6 stu?; 4o) 4o) that6s something entirely
di?erent)
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So e destroyed Atlantis and it took *O,OOO years to recover and e
came back to the >arth 9O,OOO years ago) Ey e I mean all those souls
from the non+physical races ho anted to come back and continue
ith this human e0periment) So e came back to >arth and e started
again ith all of this)
And again e found that same problem) :e had that ,)KL base note
freAuency hich e tried several ays of overcoming) So this is hat
the pyramids, for e0ample, are for in >gyptian pyramids, South
American pyramids, $ibetan pyramids, and herever you =nd pyramids
on the planet) If you stood in the so+called Xing6s #hamber of the
pyramids, and you made a tone, a voice tone of a speci=c freAuency,
then the hole thing ould resonate at that freAuency, and you could
bring the hole of the soul back into the body)
It orked very ell for a hile but e started even having diQculties
ith that) So hat e decided to do tactically as to divide the soul
into 9) $he so+called higher self makes up about ,KZ of the total soul
and then there is the physical self hich makes up about 9KZ of the
totals soul) So hat e decided to do as to live a series of lifetimes
gaining knoledge as to hat freAuency e needed to alter our bodies
to, and the >arth needed to alter her freAuencies to so that e could
maintain the hole of the soul ithin the body) And bring the Higher
Self back in the physical body)
:e started doing this ,OOO years ago) It6s hat the Akashic calls $he
Human Hlan, so literally hat e are trying to do is become human
again, because as far as the >arth is concerned, for the past ,,OOO
years e6ve been SIEHI7A4, hich e0plains a great deal about
human history) And this is here e are at the moment) :e6re at the
end of that ,,OOO year period) $his is hat <ecember 9Mst 9OM9 case is
all about)
:e have orked out hat the ne freAuency needs to be) >verybody
on the planet has raised their freAuency) $his occurred in early
.ctober, 9OMM)
Pisa& So this ,)KL HG you mentioned, is that hat6s knon as the
Schumann Jesonance;
#hris& Des)
Pisa& And that6s the one that6s been rising)
#hris& Its raised) Des >arth raised her on freAuency back in 7ay, 9OOO
to hat the ne freAuency needs to be and that is 2)K kHG) :hich is
considerably higher than ,)KL HG) So, e6ve gone from ,)KL HG to 2KOO
HG) 4o, >arth made that change back in 9OOO and humans being
humans it took us MO years further to actually start catching up
properly, but by the end of .ctober 9OMM, e also had raised our
energy levels) :e had that freAuency parity back ith the earth at 2)K
XHG) And that6s here e6ve been for the past year at that 2)K XHG
hich means that e can no move on) So this is hat the end of
9OM9 is all about, the 7ayan calendar and all of that) :e are at the
point here e can end this Human Hlan) :here e can bring the
hole of the Higher Self back into the physical body)
Pisa& Sorry) Dou6ve (ust brought up so many things for me 1 .ctober last
year (9OMM% you say;
#hris& Des) .ctober 9Vth 9OMM as the actual date)
Pisa& So each individual has made a conscious soul choice)
#hris& Soul choice yes) Some have made it very consciously because
they are aare of everything) Eut for most, unfortunately, it6s been
only on a Higher Self level)
Pisa& $o either raise our on vibration to match the >arth and to stay
here, or to leave)
#hris& Des)
Pisa& I personally had an e0perience at this time last year sort of end of
August , September or here I felt a huge physical shift, or split, ithin
the collective 1 that people had made a choice at that point and this
could be the choice they made)
#hris& :ell actually the choice as made in MVVL by everybody
because there ere ne energy patterns back in MVVL) they have been
building up through the years to last .ctober (9OMM%)
Pisa& :ell maybe I6m (ust a bit slo on the uptake) (Paughs%
#hris& $hat6s the one! :ell in fairness e are operating at a freAuency
that is ell belo hat e need to be, and e are operating at only
one Auarter of our full knoledge and potential ithin the body) It as
inevitable that humans ould be slo in catching up ith things) $here
is no criticism for hat our activities are anyhere in the Iniverse)
$rying to understand hat it is e have been through because e have
been through one hell of a lot) Humans collectively have been literally
Ythrough the mill6) Piterally e have been through everything you could
possibly e0perience that could ever be on >arth) In order to understand
and =nd a ay of bringing back the hole of the soul back into the
body)
Pisa& :ell this is a sub(ect that has come up many times on the radio
sho that I do and in various intervies about the number of peoples
ho ould be choosing to leave the planet right no, and in the most
amaGing ays) Dou kno the suicide rate has gone through the roof)
I6ve had reports from both Federal and Pocal and State police that they
are under orders not to talk about ho many people are committing
suicide) $hey are (umping in front of trains and o? bridges and things)
Im5 murder suicides, freak accidents)
#hris& $o give you the kind of scale e6re talking about here, in MVVL,
according to the Akashic the population peaked at ,)* Eillion) $hat as
the human population in MVVL 1 never mind hat the oQcial =gures
say) .ctober of 9OMM, the Akashic said that the human population is
beteen 2)3 and 2)V Eillion)
Pisa& So ho can e be getting told it6s more than tice that, and
having it (usti=ed;
#hris& Hropaganda) It6s propaganda) It6s fear+mongering by the
Illuminati led government ants us to believe that e6re running out of
available resources, and that they need to take greater and greater
control over the population, so that they can control everything that
goes on) $his is hat the 4e :orld .rder is all about)
If you look at something like the "eorgia "uidestones in America that
ere built in MV,V and it says in 3 languages that the >arth6s
population must be reduced to a sustainable KOO 7illion) If you look at
the I4#>< agreement in Jio <e !aneiro in MVV9, it6s ritten into a
massive document that government policy of all the governments ho
signed this document to reduce the orld6s population to KOO 7illion in
this century)
Pisa& It gets mentioned in Agenda 9M too doesn6t it;
#hris& :ell yes, that Ys hat that document is + its Agenda 9M and the
Eiodiversity $reaty) So that is their stated aim to kill us o?, but that is a
/elon agenda because the /elon control the Illuminati) And the
Illuminati control various governments, Eildebergers, Freemasons, you
name it)
Source
Pisa& :ell there6s every reason to believe that the Illuminati have been
here, and orking behind the scenes, for a lot longer than 2KO yearsS
so if the /elon have been behind the Illuminati ) ) )
#hris& Dea I can understand this) I6ve done a lot of research into this
and there6s actually a book I rote ith a friend of mine, <ave 7organ,
called Hro(ect Human >0tinction hich e0plains all of this)
Pisa& $hat6s a catchy title)
#hris& Des, and unfortunately it6s very true) $he book e0plains here
the Illuminati came from, all the various levels of the Illuminati, various
organiGations that call themselves Illuminati) All the history + because
don6t forget + the Illuminati (ust means the [illuminated ones[ + ho
have more knoledge than any others) So you ill =nd religious groups
often call themselves Illuminati because they believe they have the
truth of hat the orld is all about) So they are more illuminated than
other people)
$he other side of it of course is that the one ho brings illumination is
Pucifer) $hat6s hat Pucifer means is 'the one ho brings illumination')
So you6ve got all of that stu? mi0ed up together as ell) So there is a
huge untold history hich is convoluted and really is a di?erent kind of
organiGation to hat the current Illuminati aims are and hat they6re
up to)
So ultimately, the Illuminati are also knon as the Eavarian Illuminati
hich as set up by Ansel Jothschild and Adam :eishaupt back in
M,,L) 4o :eishapt, if I can use a term that I really hate using
because I don6t like it, is a 'alk+in') $he thing that 'alked+in' to
:eishapt as a /elon) :hat it did as to take control of the Illuminati
at its inception, and that6s ho they gained control of it all because 1
ho can I put this; 1 I also remote vie) I can look at things from a
remote distance hich many =nd a problem) I don't =nd it a problem, it
comes Auite naturally to me)
I keep a very close eye on /elon activities (ust to =nd out hat6s going
on, and hat really is happening in all of this, and a couple of years
ago 1 I can6t remember the e0act date o? hand 1 $he Illuminati and the
/elon made a mistake hich alloed to be released a lot of information
that had previously been hidden in the Akashic) So I as able to pick
up hat had been going on and hat as going on then)
["eorge :ashington, hose elevation to the status of 'god' is recorded
on a frieGe in the Jotunda in :ashington <#[
>SS>4$IAPPD $H> IPPI7I4A$I :>J> <>S$J.D>< HHDSI#APPD !IS$ A
F>: D>AJS A".)
If you6re orking on a soul level rather than on a physical level, then
your life span is very di?erent) So this is hat the Illuminati ere all
about) /irtually all of the original members of the Illuminati ere still
alive 2KO years later as the Illuminati) And this is under the /elon
inBuence) So, literally, "eorge :ashington as still alive, as a member
of the Illuminati 2 years ago (9OOV%) I kno ho biGarre that one
sounds but that6s ho they did it and that6s ho they persuaded
people) If somebody comes to you and says& -I can make you immortal
in your physical body if you ork ith me and use the poers that are
available to me)8 $hen an aful lot of people ill go along ith that)
Dou look at the Jothschilds, the Jockefellers, hatever, they6re poer
craGy)
Pisa& And they all do seem to live to a decent ripe old age)
#hris& Des and this is hat drives them)) $hey have a huge drive in
them) $hey ant to hold on to the poer that they have) So, if an alien
turns up and says& -I can give you that poer to have a long life that
you crave if you ork ith me)8 And this is hat happened) So this is
hat happened ith the Illuminati) $hey ere taken over by the /elon
right at their inception)
Pisa& So hat do you mean they ere destroyed though 2 years ago;
#hris& Im it6s a very convoluted story that one, but essentially because
of these energy changes that are going on on the planet, then certain
things of /elon and Illuminati activity could not be maintained, and it
broke some of the energy patterns that the /elon ere using to
maintain their hold over the Illuminati, and by doing that it literally
ble some of the /elon energies o? the planet hich literally ble the
bodies of the Illuminati apart) Eecause they could no longer be
sustained by the /elon freAuencies)
So it6s basically that kind of process that ent on and as I say it as
only a fe years ago)
Pisa& Dou say this information as actually released into the Akashic)
:ere they actually able to hold information and stop it from being
released into the Akashic to be read;
#hris& Des, if you have suQcient energy potential, hich is hat the
/elon ere deliberately doing, using some of their energy patterns to
create a blank if you like ithin the Akashic or to not allo information
to be released of events) $hen yes, it can be done but it reAuires a vast
amount of energy over a period of time to do that) Eut this
unfortunately is hat they did) $he book Hro(ect Human >0tinction has
all the events and dates on this sub(ect)
So that6s hat happened and the pattern broke so that $H> IPPI7I4A$I
HJA#$I#APPD P.S$ $H>IJ H.:>J) A4< $H> "AH :AS FIPP>< ED
H.PI$I#IA4S)
Eecause you have a lot of politicians ho obviously kno about the
Illuminati and have been pushing to become members for a long time)
So you have a sort of political coup occurring, oh say, about 2 years
ago, if you like, (9OOV%) So the situation started to shift a little bit, and
the /elon energies ere disrupted and broken) So literally, the hole
pattern of their poer base of the Illuminati broke at that point) It could
not be reconstructed, hich means that as humans are developing and
moving forards to the <ec9M, 9OM9 date, the energies that have been
holding us back, and causing us a lot of problems, have been broken,
so there6s nothing holding us back anymore)
Eut even so, there are an aful lot of people on the planet ho have
already undergone hole soul reintegration) $hey are scattered in
isolated communities around the planet) So it is no knon that it is
possible for a person to bring the hole of the higher self back into the
body, even ith the problems the /elon ere creating)
$he total disruption of the /elon hold on Illuminati and governments
means there is nothing to stop anybody from going ahead and
completing this process) Dou kno, you said you felt this !uly the
schism appearing ithin humanity as those ho ere saying [4o, I
can6t stay[ and those ho ere saying [I ant to stay)[ Eut for those
ho said they don't ant to stay, there is nothing to stop them from
staying, if that6s really hat they ant to do) So nobody is saying,
-Dou6re a bad person) And you have to leave the planet)8
$he option is still open to every single soul that is still physical on the
planet) Dou can still do it) It (ust means clearing out a bit of rubbish
from your life)
Pisa& So if you6re still here, there is still the possibility that you can
change your mind) So, if our bodies have raised their freAuencies so
dramatically, ho do e kno; Is there any physical sign or symptom
that ill tell us that e6re in the process of doing this; .r is it simply
you6ll kno because you6ll be 5 basically the hole soul ill be
returned;
#hris& :ell, as things stand at the moment, e6ve all been changing for
MO years no since MVVL, a lot of people have been changing and e
sa that =rst ith the change of the colours of the chakras) Dou kno
the , chakras are traditionally the rainbo colours of red, orange,
yello, green, blue, indigo, and violet colours)
$hose changed 1 so the Mst chakra ent to a sort of coppery+gold
colour, the 9nd ent to a petrally+blue colour, the 2rd to petral green)
And by the time you got to the *th chakra you started to get into
transparencies + so pure energy ithout any colour)
So there6s the intermediate stage) Piterally there is nobody on the
planet ho is alive no ho has the old chakra colours) I kno there is
a lot of people ho say I still see the old chakra colours but that6s
because it6s hat they are looking for)
$hey are not looking at hat is actually there)
And then after that, it changes to a transparency) So all of the chakras
become totally transparent) And the ne0t change is that the chakras
actually disappear altogether) Eecause hat the chakras actually are is
aspects of the soul ithin the body) $hey are (ust concentrations of soul
energy at particular points ithin the body) >ach point relates to each
of us as an individual person also on an emotional level and a physical
level)
So you can read the chakras to =nd out hy you6ve got health
problems for e0ample, because everybody has problems ith the
abdominal organs 1 at the 2rd chakra + organs) And hat the 2rd
chakra continues to deal ith is issues of personal poer 1 of ho
seriously are you taken by others around you) And the emotions
connected ith those situations) So for e0ample the liver deals ith
fear and guilt, the gall bladder deals ith anger, the stomach deals
ith literally things you can6t stomach, the intestine deals ith
emotions that you are trying to process but haven6t dealt ith)
So everybody has problems in this region) $his is hy diets never ork)
I mean it6s got nothing to do ith the food you eat) It6s emotions e
haven6t e0pressed) So here people are having ma(or problems is the
abdomen, particularly ithin the liver because there is an aful
amount of fear in the orld at the moment) $his is hy a lot of people
are dying from liver disease, liver cancer, hatever, because as that
fear builds ithin people, they don't understand here it6s coming from
so they don6t e0press it, so there liver literally breaks don and
collapses)
So literally, the chakras ere a ay for the soul to communicate ith
us to say you6re going rong in life) Dou need to change direction in
life) And here6s a symptom to tell you ho to do it) I6ve orked ith
disease for over 2O years and never found anybody ho falls out of the
chakra patterns on this planet) All the MOOO6s of people I6ve orked
ith as a healer, everybody falls into identical patterns related to the
chakras) So it does ork, you can tell someone6s personality (ust by
hat their symptoms are)
.nce e bring the Higher Self to ithin the body, e don6t need the
chakras any longer because the communication from the Higher Self is
instantaneous) Dou don6t need the slightly separate chakra division) So
that is the penultimate stage here e have brought enough of Higher
Self into the body to here e are ready to make that =nal change to
full consciousness) Nuite a fe million people around the planet are in
that stage)
Pisa& So is that =nal stage September 9M, 9OM9;
#hris& It should have happened before + the end of 9OMM) :e should
have had a year here e sorted ourselves out and gradually changed
from the end of .ctober 9OMM) Eut because of all the political
shenanigans that are going on , the very deliberate attempt using
things like HAAJH to hold us back has prevented this change from
occurring) It has been much more of a struggle than it as intended)
Pisa& It has been an interesting year actually in terms of fear
mongering and supposed events e are told ill take place and hat
has actually happened)
#hris& Des very little in comparison) (M&9O&9L%
Pisa& And so the fear+mongering has gone into overdrive and you6re
saying that6s a part of the attempt to keep people in the fear state so
that they don6t go through this integration process)
#hris& Des) :ell one of the biggest eapons they6re using is HAAJH) $he
American military ho obviously control HAAJH has admitted that
they6re Booding the planet ith e0tra lo freAuency (>PF% entities) And
this is a deliberate attempt to reverse the shift from a ,)KL HG to a 2)K
XHG)
Pisa& $o hat bene=t, though; I mean if their agenda is to eliminate
most of the population to under half a Eillion people ) ) )
#hris& It6s about control) $hat6s all it6s about) It really is about control)
Dou kno, if you look at several of the books that are ritten around
Sitchin6s translations and the Anunnaki) It says e ere a slave race)
:e ere built by the Anunnaki as a slave race) $his is hat Sitchin6s
story is all about) Dou kno e ere built to ork in the gold mines of
Africa on the Anunnaki behalf, and therefore that6s in the back of
people6s minds 1 that e are a slave race) :hat they are trying to do is
to recreate that slave race)
So, hat the Illuminati agenda appears to be is that e have KOO
7illion people on the planet that are slaves, literally slaves to hoever
many of the elite are left) So you kno there are a fe thousand elite
that are connected ith the Illuminati and the /elon and the KOO
7illion become slaves to them) And they (ust have their poer and
that6s really all it6s about is (ust holding onto poer)
Pisa& And the more people ho are able to integrate more of their soul,
the less their chances are of doing this)
#hris& they ould thro it all aay because they cannot have control
and poer and fear over a population that has the hole soul ithin
the body) $hat6s hy they6re trying to stop people)
Pisa& So the Akashic is telling you hat6s already taken place, so ho
do you e0trapolate from that hat6s going to occur over the ne0t fe
months;
#hris& :ell you see, that6s the problem, the Akashic doesn6t) (Paughs% It
doesn6t predict)
Pisa& Eut you do)
#hris& 4o, no I make very fe predictions) $he 7ayan calendar ended
on .ctober 9V, 9OMM) So #alleman6s date is correct) So it gave us
through this year to sort ourselves out and all the rest of it) Eut e6ve
had a hell of a struggle because of all the fear mongering and the use
of HAAJH freAuencies to try and slo everything don) So nobody
really knos)
:e are faced ith a situation that has never e0isted anyhere in this
Iniverse, >/>J) 4obody is going through the kind of processes that
Humans are going through at the moment) It has never ever been
done before) $his is the =rst time, and so nobody knos, really, ho
it6s going to ork or hich ay things are going to go and all the rest
of it) All e have at the moment is a rough idea of the number of
people ho have said D>S they can e0ist and they are going to go
through ith it and the number of people ho said 4. they can6t)
-:e6re not going to go through ith it, e6re going to die and leave our
bodies behind and return to our basis of origin) :e6re going to go back
to the L non+physical Jaces)[
Pisa& And you can look at the Akashic and see hat the numbers are)
:here are e at, at the moment; (.ctober MK, 9OM9%
#hris& Joughly hat e6re looking at on the face of it is something like
9)* Eillion people have said they ill) So bearing in mind that the
current population is about 2)3 Eillion, it means that those ho are
going to change are in the ma(ority) And those ho are not is, you
kno the remainder, M)* Eillion people)
Pisa& <o you see ma(or >arth changes and catastrophic circumstances
as being a ay that some of these people leave or hat do you think
the >arth itself, having made the choice that she6s made is going to do
this gently;
#hris& Paughs))) :ell there are some indications as to hat is going to
happen as far as the >arth is concerned) I mean, for e0ample, there is
no such thing as Ytectonic plate movement6) :hat has happened is that
throughout history and over time, the >arth has e0panded) All of the
continents have alays been more or less in the same position that
they are no) $he >arth has (ust gotten bigger and at a couple of
points she has actually got smaller, and then increased in siGe again)
So at the moment the >arth is MOZ belo her ma0imum siGe) Actually
close to KZ her ma0imum siGe) $he siGe she as on Atlantis)
So if you think of the >arth as a consciousness, her consciousness
e0pands and contracts to suit human consciousness e0pansion and
contraction)
Pisa& So it6s like breathing)
#hris& Piterally yes) So she6s orking ith us) Dou kno the root chakra
is given that name because it literally connects the human soul into
the earth) :e are all interconnected ith the planet herself) So as e
alter our situations, then she responds as ell) So the >arth needs to
get a little bit bigger than she is no) :e should have seen, for
e0ample, the San Andreas Fault should have popped 9O years ago,
because she needed to get bigger) She needs that room for e0pansion)
Eut unfortunately, hat e also have is HAAJH freAuencies are being
used to hold those points together) So those things like the #hile
earthAuake ere caused by HAAJH Auite deliberately)
$here are other regions hich are ready to e0pand, that HAAJH is
being used to hold closed) $here have been many predictions of
massive earthAuakes and tsunamis hitting the Haci=c Jim like the
>astern coast hich is here Sidney is in Australia) $here has been a
lot of predictions of that happening) And you kno e sa the
!apanese earthAuake a fe years ago) $he Jim is shifting) It6s trying to
move) Eut HAAJH is being used to stitch it together and prevent that
from happening because they don6t ant the >arth e0panding to full
consciousness in the same ay that they don6t ant people moving
into full consciousness)
It6s because then they ould lose their control) I mean it6s immensely
narro+minded ridiculous vies that the Anunnaki and Illuminati have)
$hat6s hat they seem to have that + they are determined to prevent
the change form occurring because then they ould lose their position
of poer and controls)
Pisa& So does that mean that hen she does get the opportunity to
e0pand she6s going to do it sort of sharply) ) ) )
#hris& It ill be spectacular yes) And this has been a problem that has
been discussed by all souls connected ith the >arth for a long time)
4o, as to ho to prevent a nuclear inter from occurring, because
obviously there is a point here e must achieve hat e set out to
achieve) And then all the people die because there6s no food on the
planet because of a nuclear inter;
So there are all sorts of combinations and factors being discussed and
looked at, and this is hy I can6t say to you& -$his is hat is going to
happen)8 because literally nobody knos) $here is no ay you could
estimate hat is going to happen over these ne0t 2 months leading up
to <ec) 9M, 9OM9) .r even the ne0t KO years)
$here are a lot of people ho have said& -I am ready to make this
change)8 Eecause they have done so hopefully, but they are not in any
ay, shape or form ready to make this change because they can6t) At
some point, therefore they ill have to die) $hey cannot sustain their
positions on the planet because their energy freAuencies ill be too
lo) So do these people have to die before <ec) 9M, 9OM9; .r ill they
be alloed to live out their natural lifespan for the ne0t *O or KO years;
4obody knos the anser to that one) $his is hat I mean by it is
impossible to predict hat is really going to happen over the ne0t fe
years) !ust because I kno hat it ill be like in 9OKO doesn6t mean I
kno hat it ill be like beteen no and 9OKO)
Pisa& Sorry, did you say you kno hat it ill be like in 9OKO;
#hris& Des, it ill be like it as on Atlantis& no pollution, e6ll be able to
psychically communicate ith each other, communicate ith every
living thing, freely travel around the planet by translocation) It is
literally all you do is remote vie a spot, think about it and take your
body along ith your thought, so you can shift continents (ust by
thinking about it)
Pisa& Eut ho do you kno that;
#hris& $hat kind of life is hat e should be living and e ill be again,
but for those ho make this change by 9M'M9'M9 ill be able to do so
almost immediately)
Pisa& So is there anything e can consciously do to make this change;
#hris& :ork ith your Higher Self) $hat is all that you can really do) It6s
the best thing that you can do is make sure your communication ith
your Higher Self is as strengthened as possible) And listen to hat your
Higher Self is saying to you) I kno a lot of people complain about& -7y
Higher Self is saying this to me but I ant to do the right thing so I
don6t miss it or hat6s being said in case I misunderstand it)8 Eut it
doesn6t happen that ay)
#ommunication from the Higher Self is basically intuition) So you can
be doing something and say& -:hat I really must do is this) I must sort
out this situation ith "reat Aunt Pucy) It has been hanging on for
years and years and I6ve never done anything about it)8 $hat6s
communication from your Higher Self)
Eecause by leaving situations unresolved like that means you are
holding onto all the emotional issues and problems that you have
never sorted out and let go of) Piterally, hat that does is take up
space that your Higher Self could occupy ithin the bodyS so you need
to clear all of those out)
Pisa& :hat about relationships;
#hris& #an I plug another book;
Pisa& Absolutely)
#hris& :ell my latest book is called Synthesis and hat it does is to go
through basic overall history of humanity and hat6s been going on,
but most importantly hat6s in the back are e0ercises for people to do
for themselves) It is a series of meditations here you can ork ith
your Higher Self, reinforce the connection ith your Higher Self so that
communication becomes so much easier and then there6s another
meditation that allos you to access the Akashic for yourself, so that
you can ork out hat you need to do for you and ho to resolve
those overall situations for yourself)
And there are a fe other e0ercises as ell in the back of that book to
help you clear out this emotional debris that is ithin your system) Dou
kno it6s not impossible) If people ant to go through this change, this
soul integration process, there is absolutely nothing outside of
themselves to stop them from doing so) >ven if they said no, they don6t
ant to do it in the past, it doesn6t matter, they can change their mind
as long as they are prepared to put the ork in to do it) And all that
ork is getting connected ith the Higher Self and clearing out the
emotional debris) And that6s hat e need to do)
Pisa& It all sounds so easy) (Paughs%
#hris& It is) Dou kno I6ve been orking ith Auite a fe people over
the past years ho6ve been orking out this process for themselves
and they are scared sti? of doing it) $hey are absolutely petri=ed of
taking the responsibility of looking at hat their emotional problems
are of dealing ith "reat Aunt >lsie or hatever it is in your life) And
then they start to do it and they realiGe ) ) ) It6s hard to start but once
you6ve started everything starts to fall into place) I mean everything,
your hole life (ust smoothes out and all your problems disappear
because you6ve resolved that situation)
Pisa& Eut hat if you6ve got a sort of Aunt >lsie type character in your
life ho as (ust a negative, disruptive force;
#hris& :ell most people have got those)
Pisa& So hat do e do ith those; Are e supposed to make peace
ith them;
#hris& If there6s a ay to do it, then yes)
Pisa& I mean it doesn6t mean you have to have them in your life does
it;
#hris& :ell I6ll give you an e0ample) I mentioned my mother earlier
literally preventing me from investigating the psychic side of things
and hat I could do ithin the Akashic and stu?) I tried for many years
to e0plain to her hat I as doing and hy I as doing it and all I ever
met from her as resistance and total opposition) And I said, -that6s
enough!8 and I have had no contact ith any member of my family for
the last M9 years) I (ust alked aay from them, I said get stu?ed I6m
not having it in my life any longer) And it orked you kno) It sounds
like a harsh thing to do and even sounds like a diQcult thing to do but
for a lot of people that is the best ay of dealing ith it) !ust say I6ve
had enough of this) "o aay)
Pisa& Eut the important part is dealing ith your emotions around it)
#hris& Dou are the ones carrying it) 7ore often than not, the people
causing you problems don6t kno they6re causing you problems)
Eecause you6ve never told them that they6re causing you problems)
Pisa& $here6s also psychopaths aplenty and many of us have to deal
ith that) 7any of us have them in our lives and in our personal lives
and they kno that they6re disruptive)
#hris& Des and so hat you have to do is alk aay from them) "et rid
of them out of your life)
["eorge :ashington, hose elevation to the status of 'god' is recorded
on a frieGe in the Jotunda in :ashington <#[
Pisa& A lot of the ne age talk is, you kno, you6ve got to be light and
love and forgive)
#hris& If I could use a very >nglish ord for that& Eullocks!! (Paughs all
around)% Eut it6s true) I6ve had people come on to me and say ell
surely e must love the /elon because after all they6re only misguided
and that6s here that ord comes in) I mean it6s utter rubbish, hy do
you ant to love your enemies) It6s not going to change them) It6s not
going to make a bloody bit of di?erence as to ho they act)
Eut hat you need to do is to change the ay you act so you need to
tell them to get stu?ed and you need to sort out this emotional debris
you6ve been carrying around ith you) Dou do that and you6re there)
Piterally you can change over night)
Heople say it6s diQcult and all of this, but it really isn6t) As I say I6ve
been orking ith many people over months ith e+mails and that6s
hat they6re =nding) .nce they start, it suddenly becomes very, very
easy) >verything falls into place) $heir life, and all the problems in their
life, (ust smooth out) $hey6re gone) $rouble free) >verything (ust
happens as it should be and they kno that they6re ready)
Pisa& In your healing ork, do you ork ith people remotely;
#hris& I have done in the past) I tend not to at the moment) $he reason
for that is that in trying to =nd out hat the /elon are up to, $hey6ve
been atching me Auite a lot and I6ve been attacked Auite severely by
the /elon energetically, hich has resulted in a lot of physical damage
to my body) So my concern is that if I go o? and remote vie someone
for healing ork, I might then make them a target for the /elon ho
are atching me, hich I J>APPD don6t ant to do because that then
becomes not very clever) I ill still do it sometimes but I need to be
e0tra careful so that there are no /elon atchers or even 4SA atchers
because the 4SA atch a lot of the time as ell)
Pisa & And as for your books they are available from )cygnus+
books)co)uk aren6t they;
#hris& Des) AmaGon has banned them all) I kno Auite a fe people ho
have tried ordering through AmaGon and they ill tell you they are
unavailable and AmaGon has never ever placed an order ith the
publishers)
Pisa& Dou must be doing something right) $hat6s alays a good sign) I
ant to thank you very, very much)
#hris& :ell it6s a pleasure to speak ith you) I hope I made some kind
of sense along the ay)
$ranscribed by Herbert
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