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kkRRiiSShhNNaa
even tamil is also new language just like other south languages.
the primitive local population was concentrated in TN. But geographically very important.
So became more important in south.
the karnataka western ghats region was not much populated and so migrated vedic
people dominated and language become most influenced by pure sanskrit. many saints
are from karnataka. check it out.. how many brahmins percentage in karnataka in south.
many tamil brahmins also migrated back to karnataka as mysore kingdom was and is
the only hindu kingdom in south until today even during british.
if you remove sanskrit influence with current day tamil, it won't be modern day
language. it will become just very primitive which has no importance for modern day
people.. I am quite sure that people who think they are from pure proto tamil population
is very very less. most of all tamils also having deviated sanskrit names except only
few... I don't think even most tamils want to go back to privitive age discarding
sanskrit...
I noticed that all tamil words ending with 'm' are sanskrit with no doubts.
Notice the first tamil script was also used write for sanskrit. thats why many characters
were there in first tamil-brahmi inscription. but later discarded as it was not possible for
local population tongue gaining importance as time passed.
ॐ अहम् - अिपर्त
Amongst all Indian Language Sanskrit is most Apt for science and naming technical
terms..
I was once going through Tamil Technical terms for Computer fields..and found 50-60%
easily identifiable Sanskrit influence..rest other experts can say..
And if not fueled by Hate against Brahmins, i do not know what can be reason to hate
Sanskrit..!!
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the karnataka western ghats region was not much populated and so migrated
vedic people dominated and language become most influenced by pure
sanskrit. many saints are from karnataka. check it out.. how many brahmins
percentage in karnataka in south. many tamil brahmins also migrated back to
karnataka as mysore kingdom was and is the only hindu kingdom in south until
today even during british.
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Vanakkam in Tamil is derived from the word வணங்கு (vanangu), to bend, which is
similar/equal to Namaskaram [from Nam/ Namra, to bend] of Sanskrit. The idan behind
that formation is to bend one's hand or body before elders showing his respect or his
submission or due to inability/defeat and even acknowledging the elders' greatness.
வணக்கம் vaṇakkam
नम् nam , 1 To bow to, make obeisance to, salute (as a mark of respect) (with acc. or
dat.); -2 To submit or subject oneself, bow down; -3 To bend,
नमनम् namanam 1 Bowing down, bending, stooping. -2 Sinking. -3 A bow, salutation,
obeisance. -नः One who causes to bend or bow;
नमर् namra a. 1 Bowing, bowing down, bent, inclined, hanging down; -2 Bowing
down, making a low obeisance; -3 Lowly, submissive, humble, reverential; -4
Crooked, curved. -5 Worshipping. -6 Devoted or attached to.
Compare these meanings with ఎరగు [ eragu ] [Telugu] v. i. To descend దిగు. To salute,
to make a bow to, to bow down to, to prostrate oneself నమసక నమసక్ర
్ించు, మొరక్ుక.్ ఎరగ
ఎరగుుడు
ḍu. n. Salutation నమస
eraguḍ నమసాాకర
్
రము
ము.
shravan kulkarni
don spk unless u kno.....mattur lately adopted sanskrit, after a sanskrit camp heavily
influenced ppl there.....
n if u think states are made because ppl there spk a particular language, den u don
deserve a reply...better be in land of ur illusion where u have just tamil tamil n even
more tamil.....
n why are u keen on splitting karnataka....look at the venom u have been injected
against kannada...
kkRRiiSShhNNaa
రవ
రవిి (ravi)
Vanakkam in Tamil is derived from the word வணங்கு (vanangu), to bend, which is
similar/equal to Namaskaram [from Nam/ Namra, to bend] of Sanskrit.
hahah... Namaskaram is used by many tamil brahmins.. looks like finally you go and say
namaskaara itself derived from tamill..
basically tamil words ending with 'm' are derived from sanskrit. no doubts about it....
examples - namaskaram,sankalpam, list goes endlessly.... or is it sangalpam??
sanskrit words are not like new languages like tamil etc.. Sanskrit has proper meaning
for every sound.
The reason why I gave VandanegaLu (kannada) , vandanaalu (telugu) to make you
understand comparison between kannada/telugu and tamil.
----
with tamil, sanskrit words look too much corrupted...
maga + esha??
maga in kannada (which still retained proto dravid) means son.
రవి వరరో.దే
hahah... Namaskaram is used by many tamil brahmins.. looks like finally you go
and say namaskaara itself derived from tamill..
We are not discussing about Namaskaram. I have just compared the origin of vanakkam
from vanangu (to bend) with Sanskrit word Namaskara which is derived from the
Sanskrit root Nam (to bend). I have not claimed that the namaskaram was derived from
Tamil in that thread. pl read again.
basically tamil words ending with 'm' are derived from sanskrit. no doubts
about it....examples - namaskaram,sankalpam, list goes endlessly.... or is it
sangalpam??
Is it? Then pls confirm whether the following words ending with "m" are sanskrit or not.
ஆலம்² ālam,, n. 1. Banyan, 2. Sky; 3. Breadth, width; 4. Blossom, blown flower;
ஆழம் āḻam, n. [Kannada. āḻa, Malayalam. āḻam, Tulu. āḷa.] 1. Depth; 2. Depth of
thought;
ஆளம் āḷam, n. Elaboration of a tune;
Comparision clearly shows vanakkam is actually derived from sanskrit
"vandana".
see the last letter 'm'. and also compare kannada and teleugu which usually try
to give justice to original sanskrit words- "Vandana".
your citation is wrong. In sanskrit, vandana is not available. only Vandanam is available.
check the link
http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.5:1:1125.apte3.
In kannada only, the letter m is missing. Tamil retains the same.
వందనము vandanamu. n. An obeisance, salutation, అభివాదనము, నమసాక్ రము, Praise, సుత్
తి.
Thanks. వందనమిడు or వందనముచేయు vandanam-iḍu. v. n. To honour, salute, bow to
In kannada , the ":" is missing and िवकल्पः will be pronounced as vikalpa only. In Telugu,
it is pronounced as vikalpamu. see
http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/romadict.pl?query=vikalpamu&table=brown
Moreover in your previous thread, you have mentioned Skt word as vandanam only and
now to ulterior motives, you have mentioned it as vandana.
Hence your allegation is incorrect and invalid. you have to prove the etymology of
Vanakkam form the word Vandanam.
kkRRiiSShhNNaa
ravi,
it seems like you are telugu. still not getting the differences??
kannada/telugu don't corrupt any sanskrit words.
Only at the last letter of the sanskrit words modified to suit joining of words.
But tamil has limitted sounds. can't even pronounce properly.
I already gave one example sankalpam ..
Tamils can't pronounce properly - looks somewhat like sangalpam.
Huh! even mahaabharata ?? oh god ??
just don't go by one link. check out vandana is a sanskrit.
Many girls have vandana names right??
Atleast sanskrit names are totally pure in almost all parts of india..
aalam might have derived from aalayam - shelter.
aaLam - might have derived from atala.
I didn't get 3rd one- but something related to music, so must hav sanskrit influence..
I have even seen tamils use ashvattam with very corrupted sound..
Kannada people also use ashvatta..
It also seems like some words related to worship also use m at the end..
Tamil has clearly have all sanskrit words ends with 'm' thats it.
even though corrupting many sounds in between...
I am not getting why u still did not get vanakkam is from vandanam?
Problem with primitive people was they took only sound of many sanskrit word.
They don't take consideration of how sanskrit words are actually divided.
I hope u will convinced if said - vanakkam is derived from vandanakam
just check the same link you provided.. just press next entry..
http:// dsal.uchicago. edu/cgi-bin/ philologic/getobject.pl?c.5:1:1126.apte3
वन्दनकम् vandanakam
वन्दनकम् Respectful salutation
by the way can you properly devide how vanakkam is word formed using vanangu??
grammatically??
12 Jan (21 hours ago) delete
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More over the word Vandanam was used in the sense of prayer in the following cases.