Is a Convention to Alter the
US Constitution a Good Idea?
Federal overreach is of great concern—rightly so, What
to do about it is of equal concern,
With the best of intentions, some citizens are calling for a
constitutional convention to pass amendments to our US.
Constitution for the purpose of reigning in federal power.
.¢ premise is that the states would control the conven-
tion—who the delegates would be, how they are chosen
and how many per state; what amendments would be
proposed by those delegates and voted on, what the
processes would be and any other matters the convention
would take up.
Article V of our Constitution states clearly the two ways
to amend the Constitution:
1. Congress proposes amendments and presents them to
the States for ratification; or
2. When 2/3 of the States apply for it, Congress calls a
convention to propose amendments. An amendment can
be the change of an entire Article of the Constitution. It
can insert some punctuation to change an amendment,
or strike or replace the Second Amendment, as Hawaii's
application proposes, from the Bill of Rights. In light of
the recent UN Treaty the US government plans to im-
pose on Americans Dec 24 of this year, itis not out of the
question that we could lose our God-given right to self
defense. Yet some claim an Article V convention would
not change the original Constitution or Bill of Rights.
‘Our Constitution is clear: States are authorized only to
‘apply to Congress to call a convention. Beyond that they have
no say. This is confirmed by an April, 2014 report by
‘the Congressional Research Service (CRS), the authorita-
tive source Congress uses for accurate information. CRS
states that Congress makes all the rules for an Article
V convention. It points to the '70s-'80s, when there was,
considerable interest in a convention. (States then began
rescinding their applications.) Congress then introduced 41
bills with specific conditions as to procedures for a conven-
tion, including selection of delegates—which would be, as
opposed to “one state, one vote”, instead, a formula based.
on the Electoral College method, whereby Virginia would
have 13 votes to California's 55, etc. ‘The report shows
not only what Congress could do; it verifies what it has
already done in preparation for an Article V convention,
Mark Meckler, of Convention of States (COS), has said
that “rules were not meant to bind the future convention.
Rather, they provide starting points to facilitate’, admitting
that COS cannot control the process.
Control isin the hands of the Congress guilty of overreach in
the first place!
+ Whois financing what? Financier George Soros is pour-
ing millions into organizations promoting an Article V
convention, without regard to “left” or “right”. (Con-
trary to claims, this proves that applications do not
have to be similar for Congress to call a convention.)
Seed money to start “Convention of States” in 2012 was
$1,207,183. Most opposing a convention are paying out,
of pocket with their own non-tax-deductible dollars.
+ Promoters claim there is no concern about a runaway
convention. History tells us otherwise. ‘The 1787 Con-
vention was called for the purpose of adding amend-
ments to the Articles of Confederation. Yet it was,
scrapped altogether and a whole new constitution was
produced. There is no ruling authority to prevent that
from happening again, and delegates to a convention
would likely be eager to “improve government” with
the best of intentions. Present at the 1787 Convention
‘were statesmen such as George Washington and James
‘Madison. How many such do we have today?
+ There is a claim of safety in ratification: 3/4 of states
would have to ratify any proposed amendment. The
1787 Convention set precedent by changing the rules
Sheriff Richard Mack, Devey Kida, Phyllis Schlay, Eagle Forum, Larry Prt,
‘Gun Owners of America, American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars, Daughters
ofthe American Revolution, Sons of the American Revolution, Justice Warren
Burger, AFL-CIO, National Rille Association (NRA), Mike McHugh, Virginia
‘Gun Owners Coalition, De. Ron Paul, Thomas DiLorenzo, Tom DeWeese,
‘American Policy Center, John Birch Society, Martha Boneta, Aaron Bolinger,
‘Shermaninsitute ss, Sherman Institte, US Sen, Mike Lee, US Rep. Michele
Bachman, Del Bob Marshall, Sen, Dick Black, De, Ben Cline, Del Dickie
Bell, Del Steve Landes, Sen, Mark Obenshain, Dr. Miguel Faria MD, Ka
Denninger, J Wiliams, NorthamericanLawCenterorg, Shawn Meshaa,
{Guar ZheConstitution com, Tom White, VirginiaRight.com, Rocco Piserchi,
Paradsift net, PrinciplePoliycom, SecureTheR public com, Robert Dean,
“Morris Rowe, VirginiaNewsSource com, Tim Brown, Freedom Outpost com.
Groups/Individuals on record opposing an Article V convention
Dr Scott Bradley, Mary Webster, marywebterog Jeff Levis, Richard D. Fry
atrotCoalition org, RPV Exec. Di Shaun Kenney, Ed Long, Larry Norv
Chris Stearns, VA GOP Third Congressional District, Kelleigh Nelson, Publiss
Hulda, Charlotte Iserbyt, Paul and Laura Jot, Danville Tea Party, Mathews
‘County GOP Commute, Mid-Peninsula Tea Party (Gloucester/Mathews
‘Middlesex). Charlie Hargis, Southvest Virginia Tea Party, Hd Long,
Waynesboro Tea Party, Newport News GOP City Commits, Concerned
Citizens ofthe Middle Peninsula VA, Unsted Republicans of California,
American Independent Party, National Association to Keep and Bear Arms,
‘the Constitution Party, American Pistol and Rile Association, Pro-America,
‘Consttatonit United Agsinst a Constatonal Convention, Voters Against
‘Conspiracy and Treason, United Organizations of Taxpayers, and Conservative
Caucus, to name afew.about who ratifies (from legislators to conventions)
and the required number for ratification from all
states to 3/4. What could happen today? Ratification by a
simple majority? Eliminating ratification? Nine states, as
‘was done in the original Constitutional convention? Or
pehaps, ratification by the siting US President?
+ The claim that “states would never ratify a bad amend-
ment” doesn't quell concerns: The 16th and 17th
amendments come to mind.
Ifby some chance, Congress releases some power to the
states and allows them to assign delegates to an Article
V convention, who might represent us? Speaker of the
House William Howell appointed Virginia representa-
tives to the “Assembly of State Legislatures” (Dec 7, 2013
and June12, 2014). Although not all attended both gath-
rings, the appointees are:
Sen. Frank Ruff, who voted for the tax increase/ trans-
portation bill (HB 2313) in 2013, and Sen. Frank Wag
ner's SB513, which forced our state into regionalism
via Hampton Roads Transportation “Accountability”
Commission (HRTAC). Ruff fought against the Martha
Boneta Farm bill.
Del, Scott Lingamfelter, who voted for the transportation
tax hike in’13 and HRTAC in ’14 voted in the 2004 Vir-
ginia Assembly to rescind any application for a convention
(one had been passed when
Democrats controlled the
Assembly) because: "the
operations of a convention
are unknown and the ap-
portionment and selection of
delegates, method of voting
in convention, and other es-
sential procedural details are
not specified in Article V...
the prudent course requires
the General Assembly to rescind and withdraw all past
applications for a convention to amend the Constitution ...
Yet, Del. Lingamfelter prefiled a motion to apply FOR a con-
stitutional convention in 2014 and has again prefiled for
the 2015 session
Del. Jim LeMunyon, who also voted for HB 2313 in 2013
as well as the 2014 Wagner bill (HRTAC) and sponsored
Homeowners’ Association bills opposed by Association
dwellers, has again prefiled a BBA application for 2015
Only Del. LeMunyon attended the Indiana “Assembly
of State Legislatures’, where one Republican, Kris Kobach,
claimed that liberals didnt even know about the Article V
convention. Really? How about Cenk Uygur’s WolfPAC
application and the 300+ left-leaning groups on the website
movetoamend.org/organizations?
Why take the risk of what could
happen if a convention reveals
a different Constitution? Once
called, an Article V convention
cannot be stopped.
‘The fourth appointee, Del. David Albo, also voted for HB
2313 and SB513 (HRTAC), an unconstitutional, unneces-
sary layer of government. He voted against applying for
a convention in 2004, along with the majority—but for it
in 2013 and 2014.
Do these sound like people we can trust to vote on
making good changes to our Constitution? ‘They will
be invited to another meeting Dec. 8, 2014 to attempt,
to make rules and amendment proposals that Congress
may never read, since they are under no legal authority
to consider state suggestions.
Changing the name to “Convention of States” (COS) or
“Balanced Budget Amendment” (BBA) does not change
‘what iti, Itis still an Article V convention called by
Congress for the purpose of proposing amendments to
our Constitution. States meeting together is traditional,
but for the states to decide the rules and delegates for
an Article V convention is completely unconstitutional,
‘We know Congress only uses the law when it suits their
purposes; they will surely not relinquish any power to
State legislators in an Article V convention.
‘Are the currently proposed amendments advisable? A
BBA would result in raising taxes to balance the budget
(and/or printing more fiat money, with the accompany:
ing inflation it causes) when there is no agreement on
where to cut federal spend-
ing. A BBA would increase
the power of government.
As it stands, Congress is
only allowed to spend on
the enumerated powers listed
in the body of the Constitu
tion. A BBA would result in
no constraints on spending,
bypassing the limitations of
the enumerated powers.
Who besides well-intending patriots, establishment
Republicans and George Soros support an Article V
convention? Leo Linbeck II, Richard Parker (one of the
"60s SDS radicals) and Harvard Prof. Lawrence Lessig, an
Obama supporter and invited guest of the 2013 Bilderberger
meeting, who smiled as he said, “Let's have some more
runaway conventions.”
Can we depend on states to rein in federal overreach
when they take federal money with strings attached (thus
themselves accomplices to overreach)?
Public servants don't abide by the Constitution now;
why trust they'd obey a different version?
Obey the Constitution, not change it. Contact us for
a solution that can be done in one year, not the 2 to 7
years predicted by convention proponents.
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