Madhav Prasad Sinha (Babu Ji)

- discusses the condition of a Mahatma in particular

concerning omniscience with Myron Phelps
It is said that space does not exist in Sat Desh.

concentrated force is left to it, while in the other

The meaning of this is that not only bodies

case the greater part of the spiritual force is

but space itself is intelligent. Of this we have

separate from and independent of the body.

no conception. There is everywhere diffused

spirituality and there are centres of spirituality;

The Mahatma who has attained to the higher

the latter are the inhabitants of the region. The

regions usually also establishes a second centre

diffused spirituality is highly conscious and

in Trikuti or Sahas Dal Kanwal, from which he

intelligent and is the medium by which sensations

maintains his body by diffused spirituality. The

are conveyed. There is also diffused spirituality

difference between the two spiritual centres, that

here, but besides being of a much lower intensity,

of the Mahatma and that of the ordinary jiva,

it is clogged and obstructed by physical matter and

may be illustrated by comparing them to a great

mind. But in Sat Desh there is no such resistance.

and small source of light respectively. If there is a

small light in a large room it must be moved from

The action of the diffused spirituality of Sat

place to place to make the objects in the room

Desh may be understood by the analogy of

visible. But if it be replaced by a lamp of larger

the human body. There is in the body diffused

candle power the rays which emanate from it

spirituality by which the functions are maintained;

would be sufcient to illuminate the room. It is

and the spirit in the spirit-centre of the body

not necessary to move it from place to place.

learns what happens at the extremities of the body

by transmission through and by diffused spirit
from. the extremities to the centre.

Or take the analogy of the Sun. It is a vast

centre of light, but the world is sustained by its
diffused light; which if concentrated in a small

Again, consider the way in which the spirit of

area would make a great centre.

a jiva who has attained spiritual advancement,

who has located his spirit and consciousness

The diffused spirituality of a Saint acts much

on a higher level, vivies his covers. It. is quite

in the Same way as the spirituality of an ordinary

unlike that employed by the ordinary man,

man. His state of sleep is similar, he dreams and

and were it not so, it might well be urged that

passes into an unconscious state; but all this

there is little difference between the advanced

relates to the human form supported by the

jiva or Mahatma and the ordinary jiva, both

diffused spirituality. The higher centre is always

sustaining an apparently similar outer form

illumined.

to the same apparent extent. But as the spirit

ascends in the case of the Mahatma, it preserves

His physical form will be subject to like

its normal location, consciousness and capacity

passions and desires as that of the ordinary

for functioning at a greater or lesser distance

man. There is the difference, however, that the

above this level, and sustains its body by diffused

spiritual current is always awakened in him and

spirituality. In the case of the ordinary jiva, spirit

regulates the action of the lower form, e.g., sex

itself is mingled with and absorbed in the gross

passion will be felt but it will never gain mastery

covers, which it sustains, and little independent

over him. He may exhibit a great storm of anger,

but it will at once vanish, and a minute after he

Radhasoami Dayal in Radhasoam Dham; that it

will be as calm as the Himalayas.

had been there for some days; that He had come

to give them a message. He meant that His diffused

In ordinary life he speaks from the lower centre

spirituality was so strong that notwithstanding

with the knowledge of the lower man. That centre

the transfer of its centre to Radhasoami Dham

of consciousness does not at the time share the

it maintained the body in the same way to all

all-embracing knowledge of the higher centre.

appearances as does the whole of the spirituality

Therefore, if he says anything which is opposed to

of the ordinary man.

the knowledge of the higher centre, he does not

tell a lie. For instance, if someone comes behind

Only Saints in the sayujya or fourth or most

him, the lower man in him does not see the new

intimate degree of union with their presiding

comer and says there is no one there. The higher

deity have this power. The other inhabitants of

centre knows the fact but the lower centre does

Sat Desh, of course, have inner spirituality of

not tell a lie though speaking contrary to the fact.

the same quality but their kinetic spirituality is

It speaks only from its knowledge.

not so high. The sayujya saints may be thought

of as cells of the body of their presiding deity.

The spirit of a Mahatma may stand aside

at the time of death in full consciousness and

The analogy must not be carried too far. But, if

properly used it would give some idea.

witness the dissolution of his body. He is on a

different plane from the body, and is not affected

So through the medium of the diffused spirituality,

by its pangs. These operate only on the diffused

all Sat Desh is within the cognizance of the

spirituality. At the time of death of a Mahatmas

dwellers of the Sat Desh.

body, bystanders observe a wrench as at the time

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of death of an ordinary man, for matter always

Phelps Notes

clings to the departing spirit which it realises to be

Notes of Madhav Prasad Sinhas discourses

its life, and this produces the convulsions of death

as recorded by Myron H. Phelps

These convulsions may appear nearly the same

Pgs 32-35, Chapter 1.

to the outside observer in the one case as in the

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other. But the Mahatma is a conscious witness,

Soami Bagh, Agra.

and is independent of them.

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The above explains why miracles are not

performed by hjghly developed jivas. They might,
it is true, supplement the diffused spirituality of
the body by a strong current sent from the higher
centre for the purpose of miracles. But this course
would have the disadvantage that a strong spiritual
current frequently sent into the body is likely to
injure it; just as a current of too high a voltage
for its capacity passed through a wire will melt
it because the capacity of the wire to receive an
electric current without injury is limited.
Soamiji Maharaj on the day of His departure,
told His disciples that His spirit was in the lap of