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Talal Al-Salahi
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When we drill using fresh water mud and we can not get mud filtrate and mud cake
to take the measurement of Rmc and Rmf, do we measure only Rm and consider
Rm=Rmf=Rmc?? or there is something else we should do??

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Parmanand Thakur
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RMF & RMC can be calculated if only RM and mud weight is known:
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RMF= c X RM^1.07
RMC=0.69XRMFX(RM/RMF)^2.65
c is dependent on mud weight value.
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Thank you Thakur,

How do we get c value?? we have mud density.
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Along the lines of Dan's question, can you please explain what you mean when you say "we can
not get mud filtrate and mud cake to take the measurement of Rmc and Rmf"? Are you just
drilling with water with no additives (mud) so there is no mud cake? Or, do you just not have
samples of the mud cake and mud filtrate? If you mean the latter, either the logging engineer or
the mud engineer should be able to run the mud through a mud press to get the mud cake and
the mud filtrate. The same meter that the logging engineer uses to measure Rm can then be used
to measure Rmc and Rmf.

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Talal Al-Salahi
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Thank you Dan and Eric for your comments, we are drilling in the basement using fresh water.
So, only Rm can be measured as there is no mud cake will be build, the filtrate will be almost the
mud it self.

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