Is the Material World Real?

Dear Dr. Ram,

Diarama : I have a problem of a more dialectical nature type, but not without its
eschatological Ramifications (if you will forgive the pun). I have read, and in large part
support, many of the Vedic texts, (Shankacharya for example) that the material universe is an
illusion. Unfortunately the tax commissioner does not believe me and is threatening jail. I
assumed I already was in jail. Who is correct?
Dear Diarrhea,
I'm sure the Vedic texts will be relieved to know that the great sage Diarrhea supports them
in large part.' I thought long and hard about whether or not you were taking the piss
(doesn't your ISP offer emoticons in its e-mail utility?). There were a number of clues in your
e-mail that led me to believe you were spoofing but there was also enough ignorance to
inspire a satsang. It so happens that the demand for satsangs seems to have decreased of
late and I have a lot of time on my hands this evening so I decided to put on my guru hat and
take the question at face value. The ignorance I refer to is the notion that Vedanta says the
material universe is an illusion.
The material world, according to Vedanta is not an illusion, you'll be happy to know. It is
quite real. It is nothing but the Self. It is called Ishwara sristi, the creation of the Lord,
meaning the Self. It is non-separate from the Self.
There is another creation that is brought on by avidya, ignorance of reality. This is called jiva
sristi. This is the creation or psychological world' of the individual. It is not called an illusion
but is called an apparent' reality. The world' is what an individual projects or interprets
when he or she is experiencing the world. The individual's creation is like a dream. It seems
real until he or she wakes up. When you wake up you realize that the snake was not a
snaketo refer to the famous example of the relationship of the Self and the mind. If the
snake bit you in the dream does the venom still work on you when you wake up?
The teaching that the world is not real, meaning permanent is easy to misunderstand. It is
not something to be believed. It is something to revealed by investigation. Most of us take
the world to be real because we believe that what we are experiencing (our projections) are
real. The Vedantic definition of reality is that which is always the same, that which endures.'
The individual's world is not real, although it is experiencable, because it changes.
The idea behind Yoga is that the vasanas are real and that they need to be destroyed so that
you can experience reality as it is. The idea behind Vedanta is to point out what reality is.
When reality is known, what is apparent becomes apparent. It is the vision of non-duality
that destroys (the belief) that the vasanas are real. The vasanas are the cause of jiva sristi.
There is little point telling a person who is asleep that this is a non-dual reality but everyone
has doubts about their world because it is rarely what it seems to be. The parts of the
scripture that point to the unreality of the subjective are attempting to help such an
individual question the reality of his or her world.' The belief that what I am subjectively

experiencing is real is the cause of most suffering. The world is an illusion' teaching is for
people who have had an epiphany or epiphanies and then fallen back into the sleep of their
personal creations and desire to re-awaken.
Diarama: Yesterday, while wandering about in my cosmic body (which is infinite and eternal)
I stubbed my toe on a rock, causing the mind component to register pain and suffering. Did
this event really take place?
Dr. Ram: The event took place but it was not real.
Diarrhea: Am I covered by any known policy?
Dr. Ram: You are the toe, the stubbing, the policy and that because of which the event was
known. You're also an idiot (1) for not knowing you are covered and (2) for being so cosmic
that you didn't see where you were going and therefore stubbed your toe. I hope it hurts.
All the best,
Dr. Ram