Stanley Meyer Explained

Just trying to share with everyone what I have learned. Like you said
there's more than one way of doing this. My goal is to build
everything as close to Meyer as possible to understand the work,
whereas you can understand it better by doing it your own way. Both
will work. We just have different ways of thinking.
So back to the Driving Circuits. I will explain this from the beginning
so hopefully everyone can have a better understanding.

Lets start from the beginning. The above diagram comes directly
from Stan Meyers Tech Brief page 3-28. It is the block diagram for
the ECU.
THE LASER ACCELERATOR
On the top you see the Laser accelerator. The laser accelerator is an
optical distributor which uses light to cause a pulsed output.
Examples:
Optically triggered electronic ... - Google Patent Search
Hydrogen Powered Commodore
(See fig 3)
The pulsed output created by the optical distributor goes to a chip
which converts frequency to voltage, and as the frequency varies, so
does the voltage. This voltage signal, as shown in the diagram splits 4
ways and goes to circuits which are called summing circuits.
The Air Pressure Sensor, RPM monitor, and Engine Temperature
sensor also create a variable voltage signal which goes to a summing
circuit.
The summing circuits are basically that, summing circuits, the output
voltage is the sum of the input voltage(s). Summing circuits are made
using OP Amp chips like the LM741, for example.
Each summing circuit has it's own trim pot at it's output, which is
used as a voltage divider. This makes engine adjustments as simple

as adjusting a knob.
Quote:
As Stan states in his patent # 5,293,857
Paragraph 6
"Idling, low temperature operation adjustments or other
calibration adjustments for normal or ambient conditions are made
by trim pots..."
If you know something about electronics you can see how this is
going together, how simple it is, it's all analog (variable DC voltage),
which in itself is extremly simple.
Many people probably thought Stan was a genious, but in fact during
the
70s, 80s, and early 90s most cars had analog voltage systems.
Meyers merely studied and copied them. Nothing new, nothing hard!
The output voltage from the summing circuits is applied to FET's. The
applied continusously variable voltage controls the amount of
current which flows through the differential solenoids thus
controlling the flow of the gas(es) flowing through them and into the
mixing chamber, which then enters the engine through a vacuum
line.

The line going to the air cleaner is actutallt the Idle Air bypass line.
THe mixing chamber line is under the throttle plate.
Quote:
Stan had three differential solenoid control valves mounted on a
panel.One was for the exhaust recirculation,the second was for the
processed air,and the third one went to the air cleaner.The air
cleaner air would have been used for the idle air control like all EFI
cars use today.It would control the idle speed.No water was put
through any of these valves.
All of theses valves are pictured in the memo for the injector
system,423 I think. -Dynodon
The summing circuit which controls the Gas Processor solenoid also
controls the EEC. The analog voltage from the summing circuit is also

the voltage applied to the EEC. Some changes can be made,

Personally I would add a voltage divider (pot) to further adjust the
applied EEC voltage and start at the lowest voltage possible. When
dealing with the amount of energy possible, you should always start
low and work your way up.
Keep in mind Coloumbs law, as Stan taked about in his NZ vid and
the EEC circuit. If you apply 1 volt you'll get 1 amp of current
flow....Use the proper bulbs, and start at a low voltage!

Here's a quick circuit I just whipped up. Of course all the Resistors
and things aren't there, but those parts are simple and any
electronics forum or book can help you there. I'm just trying to give
an example for now. Also you'll notice that the drawing closely
resembles Meyer's in his patent # 4,836,581. Figure 11 in that patent
is pretty good. If the Ground is an isolated ground simple connect the
negative to the GP negative electrode.

In the diagram above you should notice 2 things, First that the
applied Volatge to the EEC is a low voltage. And Second that the
frequency generator has a pot, meaning it is a VCO (voltage
controlled Oscillator).
Now one thing people may not understand, is how the EEC makes a
complete circuit. And the way it does is the chamber in the Gas
Processor has an area containing an excess number of free electrons
(ionized from the Oxygen atoms), it is the free electrons that form
the negative (ground) and complete the circuit. It is what I call, an
invisible ground.
Back to the Laser Distributor, if you studied the example I gave an
understand how it works, you should understand that the Laser
distributor can also be used to control Injector timing, which I believ
Stan did. The pulses can be used to turn on and off the injectors to
each cylinder very easily. These types of distributors allready exist.
One thing you want to keep in mind though, is that the injector duty

cycle needs to be able to change as well, which creates the need for
using the throttle, RPM, and Air Pressure sensor.
The VIC as I have stated many times is meant to produce a
continuous voltage. The voltage is applied to the conventional part of
the distributor which applies it to the injectors.
It's hard to just describe one part of the system which needs the
entire system to function. If you want to control the GP, you've got
to make it work with the entire system at various engine loads, RPM,
and temperatures! And being that every system is different I cannot
explain it all.
Some great References for more understanding. They are expensive
so I just check them out at the library.
Understanding Automotive Electronics is a great book, with several
editions. The earlier editions are more based on Analog circuits
which is what we need to understand here. There are also many
books on electronics and analog circuits!
If you build the Gas Processor, you do so at your own risk! You must
understand the energy available with such a reaction!

This is as good as I can do for now....I would recommend posting the

Voltage Amplitude control circuit on the forums at
allaboutcircuits.com, let them know the voltages your working with
and the current flow through your primary and they will get you
squared away pretty quick.
As far as that PLL circuit, a few people have claimed that it works.
You can read the posts on the first testing of this circuit below, which
I would highly recommed so you can have a better understanding
and build it correctly:

Here's a quick circuit I just whipped up. Of course all the Resistors and
things aren't there, but those parts are simple and any electronics
forum or book can help you there. I'm just trying to give an example
for now. Also you'll notice that the drawing closely resembles Meyer's
in his patent # 4,836,581. Figure 11 in that patent is pretty good. If
the Ground is an isolated ground simple connect the negative to the
GP negative electrode.
for general notation clarification I want to suggest to use the term
"ground" only when it means system overall ground (i.e. ICE metal
case or grounded to earth).
So there is no more "isolated ground" - lets call it 0V or zero level.
The isolated ground I was referring to is basically meaning that the
negative of the high voltage transformer for the gas processor is
connected to the outer electrode.
NOTE: That is only the case if your capacitor plates are not close
enough to take advantage of the polarization effect that will create a
negative charge all on it's own. The effect has many names, Stan
calles it "electron clustering", it's also known as polarization,
electrostatic induction, induced polarization charge, etc.

Electrostatic induction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Quote:
When a charged object is brought near an uncharged, electrically
conducting object, such as a piece of metal, the force of the nearby
charge causes a separation of these charges. For example, if a
positive charge is brought near the object ,the negative charges in
the metal will be attracted toward it and move to the side of the
object facing it, while the positive charges are repelled and move
to the side of the object away from it. This results in a region of
negative charge on the object nearest to the external charge, and a
region of positive charge on the part away from it. If the external
charge is negative, the polarity of the charged regions will be
reversed.
I just want everyone reading these posts to understand how in all of
Stan Meyers work the principle of splitting the water is the same.
High volatges of opposite polarity! The only thing that has changed is
the shape and size of the devices used.
Quote:
"electron clustering effect" produces a Negative Electrical Voltage
Intensity in equal magnitude to the Positive Electrical Voltage
Intensity
-Stan Meyer, Technical Brief page 8-3 (describing electrostatic
induction creating a negative charge within the injectors, resulting
in opposite charges which are used to split the water molecule)

Just remember it depends on the spacing, as to whether or not you

can use the principle described above. If your capacitor gap is wide
your result is a reduced capacitance which results in an increased
resonant frequency, and greater changes in resonance, and the need
to use a transformer which can supply both a positive and negative
charge.
Now my question is:
Do we know yet, has anything been confirmed about the wavelength
of the LED's used in the Gas Processor?
I have been wondering the following:
While reading thorough one of Stan Meyers patents he mentions the
Gas Processor inducing resonance of the electrons.
Quote:
In a general outline of the method, a first gas mixture including at
least a portion of hydrogen and oxygen gases is provided. The gas
mixture is subjected to a pulsating, polar electric field whereby
electrons of the gas atoms are distended in their orbital fields by
reason of their subjection to electrical polar forces. The polar
pulsating frequency applied is such that the pulsating electric field
induces a resonance with respect to an electron of the gas atom. A
cascade effect results and the energy level of specific resonating
electron is increased in cascading, incremental steps.
-Stan Meyers Patent # 4,826,581, Paragraph 3
It really makes me wonder if this induced resonance has any effect
on the wavelength that the atoms will absorb?

When we have an atom in a high voltage field we weaken the atom

because we are reducing the speed at which the surrounding
electrons flow around it. It really makes me wonder what effect this
could have on the photon absorbtion wavelengths?
Interesting...
I have wondered a lot lately about the role of the LED's in the Gas
Processor. It is my belief that if the voltages are high enough to
ionize the atoms then they must also excite the atoms....I think the
LED's may have been used only to give the proper amount of energy
to keep the atoms from releasing a photon and going back to a lower
state, Or possibly what you mentioned above, although right now I
need to do more research to fully understand it.
I recently talked to someone who is in the physics dept at nist.gov
about the Gas processor, not mentioning what it was, only how I
read it to work so as not to get a complete denial of such a device.
My final answer was this:
Quote:
sorry, any practical source of radiation that will efficiently convert
O to O4+.
That will be done more efficiently by plasma processes such as you
mention below.
Modeling of such processes tends to be fairly complicated. I do not
see a simple obvious
role for LEDs in enhancing such processes - only detailed modeling
would reveal
opportunities. LEDs now operate only down to wavelengths above
200 nm, which are

insufficient to excite multiply-ionized oxygen atoms.

Thanks for your interest in the programs of the National Institute of
Standards and
Technology.
Below is the email I sent-Above is the reply
Quote:
The reason why I asked you about the Oxygen atom is to
understand the following:
I have recently learned of a device used to obtain hydrogen decay
in an easy way, similar the Muon process.
Air is pumped through a high voltage ionization chamber which
ionizes the Oxygen Atoms (up to 4 electrons) and at the same time
laser energy (from LEDs) is used to excite the Oxygen atoms to an
energy level high enough to ionize the hydrogen atom
(>1312KJ/Mol I think).
The ionized, excited Oxygen is added to a mixture of hydrogen gas,
and when the gas is ignited the excited Oxygen ionizes the only
electron from the hydrogen atom, causing atomic decay of the
hydrogen atom.
I have seen pictures of the device as well as a patent.
I wanted to ask you what you think about such a device. If it does
work what wavelengths of LEDs would it use, and would the
electric field change the needed wavelengths?

Again, I thank you very much for your time. I hope what I shared
can also be of interest to you.
Seeing what he mentioned above. Makes me wonder if we need a
certain V/cm and plate spacing to accomplish the task correctly...I
think there may be a little more going on with the Gas Processor
than previously believed...