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General
commen
ts

Analysis and design of rock

support of Power House and
Transformer Cavern has been
carried out using FLAC-3D
considering
excavation
sequence
of
underground
openings for Power House and
Transformer cavern only. A
comprehensive
model
considering
all
major
underground openings like all
vertical Pressure Shafts. Power
House cavern, Transformer
Cavern, vertical Cable Shaft
and
downstream
Surge
Chamber etc. is to be provided
with excavation sequence of
each underground opening
correlating with the excavation
sequence of nearby openings.

Reply from
Hydrochina

Agreed Position

Sinohydro
accepted to carry
out the analysis
considering the
entire model of
the power house
complex covering
power house
cavern,
transformer
cavern and surge
chamber.
However, the
pressure shaft will
not be considered
in the model. This
analysis will be
carried out in the
detailed design
stage.

Agreed

The
underground
caverns will be
re-calculated,
the new model
considers the
other relevant
caverns.

Presentation on the input and Agree.

interpretation of the results in
the software model may be
made and shown during
upcoming discussion.

Modified
Position in
this report

The presentation
was made on 13th
March 2015.

EIPL comments

Sino Hydro provided the

underground
3D
simulation
analysis
considering the three
major caverns in a
separate report (via
transmittal
no.
SH/EIPL/0329/2015)

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Agreed Position

Agreed

The elevation of generator

floor has been mentioned different
at
different
places
in
the Agree.
document. The same needs to be
checked and corrected.

Construction
methodology
(with
due
emphasis
on
excavation sequence) of all
the caverns, shafts/chambers
and construction adits etc.
shall require to be furnished as
it has bearing on the design.

Construction
methodology
will be provided
by Sinohydro
karuma Project
Department

Agreed

Rock support design for all the

underground
cavern/shaft/chamber
may
please be furnished for each
component separately.

When

submitting each
cavern/shaft/cha
mber
construction
drawings, we

Agreed

Modified
Position in
this report

EIPL comments

There are two floors

in the powerhouse
which
have
been
mentioned
as
generator floors in
the
Power
House
caver,
one
at
948.55m
and
the
other
at
942.00m
(refer page no. V-6
clause 5.4.2). It needs
to be clarified why
both the floors have
the same name.
Sino
Hydro
provided
comprehensive
construction
methodology of the all
the components

Agreed

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Hydrochina

Modified
Position in
this report

Agreed Position

EIPL comments

will provide
support design
of each
cavern/shaft/cha
mber.

Drawings of instrumentation
for some components have
been provided. Kindly furnish
drawings of instrumentation
for the remaining components.

Reference for validating the

proposed
provision
of
instrumentation may please
be furnished.

Instrumentation
of
Power
House,
Transformer cavern,
Surge chmber have
been given. It is
expected that Sino
will
provide
instrumentation
details as an where
necessary for review.

Agreed

We will provide
detail drawing of
instrumentation
in the process of
construction
subsequently.

We dont know

what the need is

to be provided,
please explain in
detail.

EIPL clarified the

comment pertains
to code/ standards
considered for
designing the
number of
instruments and
number of
sections.

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Hydrochina

Agreed Position

Sinohydro
informed that the
suggested
locations of the
instruments are
based on the
Chinese
standards/
experience.
Sinohydro agreed
that the proposed
locations may
have to be
adjusted based on
the observed
geological
conditions during
excavation of the
power house.
Additional
monitoring
measures will be
provided by
Sinohydro, if
necessary.

Modified
Position in
this report

EIPL comments

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Modified
Position in
this report

Agreed Position

Location of instruments shall

be accessible and instrument
shall be protected from any
damages
due
to Complete
blasting/construction activities
agreement.
after its installation. Read out
unit shall be well approached
and
well
protected
for
recording of readings.

International standards shall

be used for designs (as per
Tender
specification).
Any
other standard to be used
shall
be
verified
with
equivalent
standard
at
Sinohydro's responsibility.

EIPL clarified that the

project has to be
designed in
accordance with
International
Standards as
mentioned in the EPC
Contract agreement.
Where Chinese codes
are referred,
equivalent
international
standard shall be
provided by
Sinohydro. Sinohydro

This project is
designed with
Chinese norms,
and also
reference to
international
standards.

Agreed

EIPL comments

Shown on
page V-2.

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Modified
Position in
this report

Agreed Position

EIPL comments

agreed to the same.

Clause
5.2.1.2
-Layout
scheme
of
Upstrea
m P.H.
location
Cavern

Technical code for safety

We can provide
monitoring of concrete dam
(DLlT5178- 2003) shall be English version
of Standard
provided in English version.
DL/T5178-2003.

Refer OEA sheet no. 0937-GEL-002

for
observations/comments
on Alright.
the geology of this document.

Agreed

In the

comparison of
upstream and
downstream
powerhouse, the
auxiliary
powerhouse is in
the right and the
erection bay is
in the left. When

Agreed

It
is
mentioned
in
the
document that the length of
the EVT and MAT has been
increased by 150m. It is
understood that the MAT
length is decreased and EVT
length is increased, and there
is an overall increase of 150m
in tunnel lengths. The same
may be corrected in the
document.

Agreed.
Sinohydro
submitted the soft
copy on 12th
march 2015.

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Hydrochina

Agreed Position

this scheme,
MAT
corresponding
increase in
length.
However, after
ensuring the
powerhouse
move to
upstream, and
reverse the
auxiliary
powerhouse and
erection bay,
MAT length
decreases.
3

Clause
5.3.1Layout
of
structur
es in
Powerho
use

The thickness of 0.8m of lining

concrete of 400kV cablevertical shaft needs to be
substantiated with calculation.

The thickness of
lining concrete
of 400kV cablevertical shaft
will be
calculated in the
future during
construction

Agreed

Modified
Position in
this report

EIPL comments

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Clause
5.4.2
-Units
Bay.

Agreed Position

EIPL comments

design.
Currently adopts
a 0.8m thick
referred to
similar projects,
somewhat safer.

area.

Reply from
Hydrochina

Modified
Position in
this report

The information provided in

the report shall be as per
Tender specification which was
agreed in the negotiation
meeting held from 31st July to
2nd Aug 2013.

In the report, it
has been
conducted a
technical
analysis for the
unit bay
selection.

EIPL clarified that the

comment was for the
rock wall crane beam
which was mentioned
under Clause 5.4.2.
However, a detailed
agreed position for
the rock wall crane is
mentioned in S. No 4
of Supplementary
Issues on Technical
Design report.
(Section 5 )

In the Supplementary
issues section it was
decided that Sino Hydro
will carry out detailed
comparison
between
two schemes namely
crane
beam
and
conventional
beam
column
arrangement.
There have been no
such report received till
now. It was also agreed
that Sino will provide a
feasibility report which
if acceptable to EIPL will
give a go ahead to Sino
Hydro to prepare a
detailed design report
on crane beam. The
feasibility report has
also not been received.

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Hydrochina

Agreed Position

Modified
Position in
this report

EIPL comments

The
detailed
design
report was submitted
by Sino Hydro via
trnsmittal
no.
(SH/EIPL/334/2015), the
comments on which are
as follows:
The report should explain
how the
tensile/compressive
stresses will be
transferred from
concrete to the rock
anchors. The anchorage
length inside the
concrete shall be
depending upon the
mechanism of the stress
transfer from rock to
concrete. The bond
between the concrete
and steel should be
sufficient enough to
withstand the stress
generating fro the
imposed loads.
The anchors under

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Hydrochina

Agreed Position

Modified
Position in
this report

EIPL comments

compression are not

used anywhere in the
calculations. In the
sliding stability check,
the anchors in the
upper layer are
considered while the
stability is checked at
the inclined face.
The unit weight of
concrete is taken as
26.25 kN/m3 (refer
appendix 1 and 2).
How they are going to
ensure this value.
Details of calculation of
crane wheel load (Pmax)
of 400kN shall be
provided. Also wheel
spaccing shall also be
confirmed.
The spacing between
two rows of anchors
has been mentioned to
be not less than
600mm (refer page

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Agreed Position

Modified
Position in
this report

EIPL comments

13), but according to

the drawings it is
450mmm.
Columns of 1m x 1m has
been shown in the
drawings but there is
no reinforcement
drawings for the
columns. Also one
column is shown right
across the construction
joint.
English copy of the
specification (Q/CHECC
003-2008) shall be
provided. Also various
places the factor of
safety, standard
dimensions etc are
mentioned. Reference
for these values shall
be written alongside
wherever they are
mentioned in the
report.
The values of partial

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Modified
Position in
this report

Agreed Position

EIPL comments

factor of safety are also

not in accordance with
DL-T 5057-2009.

Clause
5.4.4
-Transfor
mer
Cavern.

The sizes and elevation of

transformer ventilation tunnel
and traffic cable tunnel to be
mentioned to get the clarity
on construction of Transformer
Cavern and its adequacy may
be substantiated.

After the first

liaison meeting
with the
mechanical and
electrical
manufacturers,
we will arrange
the powerhouse
layout more
detail, then we
will provide
these caverns
equipment
layout and size.

Agreed

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The statement "Since in this

project, Condition for full
gravity flow and drainage
tunnel are unavailable" may
please be explained in detail
as the meaning of this
statement
could
not
be
understood.

Clause
5.5.2.1Numeric
al Model
and
Geometr
ic
Boundar
y.

The statement ( "According to

analysis of the results of the
tender stage, surge chamber
caverns far away from the
powerhouse caverns complex,
has little effect on the stability
of
powerhouse
caverns
complex. At this stage, in
order to improve the accuracy
of analysis, the powerhouse
and the main transformer
cavern analyzed separately.")
shall be substantiated with the

Clause
5.4.9
-Drainag
e
system.

Reply from
Hydrochina

Modified
Position in
this report

Agreed Position

This sentence is
a translation
error. Actually
want to express:
This powerhouse
does not have
the conditions
that the water in
the sump flow
outside with full
gravity, water
pump needed.

Agreed

Agree to

calculate the
comprehensive
model
incorporating all
major
underground.

Agreed

EIPL comments

Refer S.No. 1

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Agreed Position

Modified
Position in
this report

EIPL comments

comprehensive
model
incorporating
all
major
underground
openings
as
already
mentioned
under
General comments at S.No.1.

DD-TDRGE001,DDTDRCSP-001
,DD
TDRCSP-011
to 019,
DD-TDRMO-005
Drawing
s of
Powerho
use

Drawings enclosed with the

report shall be reviewed after
compliance
of
the
comments/observations
mentioned above.

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Modified drawings
taking due
cognizance of agreed
position shall be
enclosed with revised
basic design report
by Sinohydro for
EIPLs review.