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Most Canadians would be shocked to learn that it is three times more expensive to eliminate one dollar
of their debt using credit counselling compared with a consumer proposal! Eliminating one dollar of
your debt by making a consumer proposal is a terrific bargain at approximately 35 cents on the dollar.
Credit counselling, on the other hand, which requires between 100 cents and 130 cents worth of
payments to eliminate one dollar of debt costs a kings ransom in comparison!
Mark Silverthorn, author, and former collection lawyer and collection industry insider
Over the past six years I have provided advice to hundreds of Canadians experiencing debt
problems. Ever since I wrote my book titled The Wolf At The Door: What To Do When Collection
Agencies Come Calling(2010), published by McClelland & Stewart, consumersas well as the media
have routinely contacted me for information and advice on consumer debt issues. I have spoken to so
many Canadians on debt-related issues that several acquaintances refer to me as the debt doctor.
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In contrast, what rarely makes sense is for a consumer to borrow money at high interest rates to
eliminate his existing debt. This happens when individuals pay off their debts by taking cash advances
on their credit card to pay a debt or to pay the debt using a high-interest rate credit card. You would
also be eliminating your debt by borrowing money at high interest rates if you were to obtain a debt
consolidation loan from a finance company.
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If you cannot obtain a debt consolidation loan and filing for personal bankruptcy is not appealing then
the number of potential debt relief options available to you becomes smaller. Depending upon your
particular circumstances, at the present time you might choose to deal with your debts using one of the
following:
a consolidation order under an Orderly Payment of Debts (OPD) program only available to
residents of Alberta, Saskatchewan and Nova Scotia)
A consumer proposal
Do absolutely nothing
If you do not live in Alberta, Saskatchewan, or Nova Scotia then you might want to ignore any references
in this blog to a consolidation order or the Orderly Payment of Debts program since the information will
not apply to you.
You can read my comparison of a consumer proposal with settling debts on your own here. And here
you can learn more about all of the debt relief options available to consumers.
Debt relief options affording lower monthly payments and protection from creditors
A significant percentage of those experiencing debt problems want to obtain (1) some protection from
their creditors, and (2) a reduction in their monthly payments to selected creditorsparticularly any
high-interest credit cards or personal loans. Three debt relief options fit this bill, making a consumer
proposal, a Debt Management Plan arranged through a credit counselling agency, and a consolidation
orderthe latter only available to the residents of Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Nova Scotia.
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This blog will set out what happens if you were to do one of the following:
Obtain a consolidation order (for residents of Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Nova Scotia only)
I will highlight the advantages and disadvantages of each debt relief option. At the end of this blog I will
describe the two limited circumstances in which credit counselling might be more attractive than
making a consumer proposal.
When choosing between credit counselling and making a consumer proposal you should consider the
following ten questions:
1. What happens if you were to do credit counselling?
2. What happens if you were to make a consumer proposal?
3. When are these debt elimination options available?
4. When is a fair apples to apples comparison of these debt relief options possible?
5. What are the advantages of doing credit counselling?
6. What are the disadvantages of doing credit counselling?
7. What are the pros of doing a consumer proposal?
8. What are the cons of doing a consumer proposal?
9. Why is a consumer proposal almost always more attractive than credit counselling?
10. In what two scenarios might credit counselling be more attractive than a consumer proposal?
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Consolidation Order
Where available
Anywhere in Canada
Debts to be included
No
Yes
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
Percentage of outstanding
debt to be repaid
100 %
100 %
Interest to be paid on
outstanding balance
To be negotiated
In many respects a consolidation order is a hybrid between a consumer proposal and a Debt
Management Plan. It is similar to a consumer proposal as it relates to the following:
A consolidation order resembles a Debt Management Plan in that both require that a consumer pay a
minimum of one hundred percent of their original indebtedness in order to eliminate their debt.
In order to have a basic understanding of credit counselling it is helpful to know something about the
following five issues:
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The need for due diligence selecting a credit counselling service provider
How a consolidation order works (Alberta, Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia residents only)
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The most common type of credit counselling service provider in Canada is the not-for profit credit
counselling agency. There are, however, some credit counselling agencies which do not have non-profit
status.
To what extent, if any, it will be able to obtain interest relief for you on your outstanding
balance during the life of your Debt Management Plan
No one should sign an agreement with a credit counselling agency where its fees are front-end
loaded. If you are going to enroll in a Debt Management Plan with a credit counselling then it is
reasonable for the agency to receive a fee equal to a small percentage of your total monthly or biweekly payment. It is totally unreasonable, however, for a credit counselling agency to expect a
consumer to pay one hundred percent of the credit counselling agencys fees before any monies are
paid to a consumers creditors.
You should determine whether or not a credit counselling service provider is a for-profit credit
counselling agency. Creditors prefer to work with a government-sponsored credit counselling agency or
a non-profit credit counselling agency. You should not be surprised if some creditors decline to offer
any interest relief whatsoever to consumers enrolling in a Debt Management Plan through a for-profit
credit counselling agency.
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There are five things that you should know about the process of making a consumer proposal:
Your consumer proposal will be filed with the Office of Superintendent of Bankruptcy
You must make all the required payments under your consumer proposal
You must provide detailed information with respect to all your debts
If you are going to make a consumer proposal at some point the bankruptcy trustee will instruct you to
complete a document called a Statement of Affairs. This document is a detailed list of your creditors
including the amount of monies owing to them. It is important for you to list all of your relevant
creditors in your Statement of Affairs because listed creditors will be sent a copy of this document and
they are to suspend collection activity against you upon receipt of this document. Furthermore, only
those creditors listed in your Statement of Affairs are required to take a haircut if your consumer
proposal is approved.
Your consumer proposal will be filed with the Office of the Superintendent of Bankruptcy
A bankruptcy trustee will prepare your consumer proposal after reviewing your Statement of Affairs and
your current financial situation including your monthly income and living expenses. This document will
set out the percentage of your debt that you propose to repay, the number of months that you propose
to make monthly payments, as well as the dollar amount of your monthly payment. Your consumer
proposal will be filed with the Office of the Superintendent of Bankruptcy (OSB). On the day that your
consumer proposal is filed with the OSB then all lawsuits against you will be stayed, or suspended,
except for those involving child support and spousal support. Filing a consumer proposal will not affect
the rights of your secured creditors!
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proposal. Each listed creditor is entitled to one vote for each dollar of debt owed to that
creditor. Where there is a vote, a consumer proposal is approved if fifty percent, plus one, of the votes
cast are in favour of acceptance of the proposal. All creditors are bound by the result. If your consumer
proposal is rejected by your creditors then the bankruptcy trustee can submit a second consumer
proposal to your creditors.
You must make all the required payments under your consumer proposal
The fact that your creditors approve your consumer proposal is no guarantee that you will successfully
eliminate your indebtedness to your creditorsexcluding secured debt and non-dischargeable
debt. With a few exceptions, under a consumer proposal an individual must make monthly payments to
the bankruptcy trustee over a period of three to five years. In the event that you were to do a consumer
proposal and you were to become more than 90 days in arrears making your payments then your
consumer proposal would be automatically annulled. In that scenario, you would get credit for any
payments made to date but you would lose any and all of the benefits afforded under your consumer
proposal.
Whether or not you can cherry pick the debts you want to eliminate
Whether having equity in your home will prevent you from using these options
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In some instances your creditor, known as a secured creditor, has collateral it can look to if you fail to
repay monies owing to it. The two most common examples of a secured debt is a mortgage on a home
and a lien placed on a car that has been purchased or leased. Any debt that is not secured debt can be
described as unsecured debt. There are different categories of unsecured debt. The most common type
of unsecured debt is unsecured consumer debt. Unsecured debt which is not consumer debt includes
the following:
Student loans
Non-dischargeable debt
Non-dischargeable debt is a category of unsecured debt which cannot be forgiven or discharged under a
consumer proposal, personal bankruptcy, or a consolidation order. This includes the following:
Court fines
Award of damages by a court for sexual assault or the intentional infliction of bodily harm
The type of debt to be included in a consumer proposal is the same as that for a consolidation order.
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Whether or not you can cherry pick the debts you want to eliminate
Regardless of whether you eliminate your unsecured consumer debt by way of a Debt Management
Plan, consolidation order, or a consumer proposal, you cannot pick and choose which debts are to be
eliminated! Furthermore, if you make a consumer proposal or obtain a consolidation order then you
must include all of your student loans and monies owing to the government. None of these options
permit you to cherry pick debt and exclude specific accounts from your chosen debt relief option!
Whether having equity in your home will prevent you from using these options
If you own real property in your own name then it is possible that you might own sufficient equity to
effectively disqualify you from a Debt Management Plan, a consumer proposal, (or where applicable,
aconsolidation order) or possibly all of them. If you own real property it is possible that one or more of
your unsecured consumer creditors might refuse to include its debt in your Debt Management
Plan because their position is you could sell your home or refinance it in order to pay your
creditor. Similarly, the fact that you have substantial equity in your home might mean that you do not
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satisfy the insolvency requirement under federal law, and, therefore, are not entitled to make a
consumer proposal.
When is a fair apples to apples comparison of these debt relief options possible?
When you are comparing debt relief options it is helpful to know whether or not you are comparing
apples to apples. For example, a Debt Management Plan with a credit counselling agency can only be
used to eliminate unsecured consumer debtand it cannot be used to eliminate outstanding student
loans or monies owing to the government.
Therefore, if you owe a significant amount of money to the government or have substantial outstanding
student loans then comparing credit counselling and a consumer proposal is like comparing apples and
oranges.
If one hundred percent of your indebtedness is unsecured consumer debt then you are comparing
apples to apples if you were to consider resolving your debts by way of the following:
consumer proposal
consolidation order (for residents of Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Nova Scotia only)
If your debts include student loans or monies owing to the government then you are making an apples
to apples comparison in terms of eliminating your debt if you had a choice between the following two
options:
Consumer Proposal
Consolidation order (for residents of Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Nova Scotia only)
It would not be fair to say that making a consumer proposal is a superior debt relief option than credit
counselling. The following statement, however, would be an accurate comparison of the relative merits
of credit counselling and a consumer proposal.
Except for two limited circumstances, making a consumer proposal is virtually always going to be more
attractive than credit counselling. Not only is eliminating debt for about 35 cents on the dollar more
attractive than eliminating debt at 105 cents on the dollar, but a consumer proposal provides a debtor
with much more robust protection from creditors than credit counselling.
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collection activities against you in connection with secured debt, non-dischargeable debt, as well as
monies owing to the government, or outstanding student loans.
If you live in Alberta, Saskatchewan, or Nova Scotia, and you were to obtain a consolidation order then
you would be entitled to more robust protection from creditors than you would if you were to enrol in
a Debt Management Plan. A person who obtains a consolidation order is entitled to the same level of
protection from creditors as a person making a consumer proposal!
2. Reduce your monthly payments to creditors on your unsecured consumer debt
Another advantage of credit counselling is that a consumer will be able to reduce the size of his monthly
payments arising from his indebtedness to his unsecured consumer creditors.
3. A Debt Management Plan is not automatically terminated if debtor is 90 days in arrears making
payments
If you were to make a consumer proposal and you were to become 90 days in arrears making your
payments then your consumer proposal would be automatically annulled. In contrast, Debt
Management Plans are more forgiving to those in arrears making their payments. There is no
requirement that a Debt Management Plan be automatically annulled if a consumer were to become
more than 90 days in arrears.
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If your total debt is less than $10,000 then making a consumer proposal might not be available to you.
Credit counselling, however, is rarely the optimal debt relief option for those owing less than $10,000 to
their creditors. The odds are good that you can obtain better results by doing one of the following:
o
Simply waiting until your indebtedness exceeds $10,000 and then doing a consumer
proposal
Not making any payments on selected unsecured consumer debt and relying upon the
expiry of your provinces limitation period to avoid paying your debt altogether
Not making any payments to selected unsecured consumer creditors until such time
that you can set aside some monies and negotiate a one-time lump sum payment for
less than one hundred percent of the outstanding balance as settlement in fulloften at
a substantial discount
Lets assume that today you owe $9,000 on four high interest credit cards. If you were to do credit
counselling today then you would likely repay somewhere between $9,000 and $11,700, by making
monthly payments. If, however, you were to wait 12 to 24 months until such time that your total
outstanding balance reached $10,000 then you could make a consumer proposal in which case you
would pay approximately $3,500, by making monthly payments over a period not to exceed five years.
Based upon my 12 years of experience as a collection lawyer and collection industry insider I know that
major creditorsbanks, credit card companies, department stores, and utilities, including cellphone and
internet service providersrarely sue individuals who owe less than $4,000 to a single creditor.
Therefore, if you owe less than $10,000 and this indebtedness is split amongst two or more creditors
then there is a real chance that you might one day have the option of never paying a penny to these
creditors. Here you can learn more about why a creditor might never sue you.
Each province in Canada has a provincial limitation period which effectively forces unsecured consumer
creditors to sue debtors within a certain number of years, after which it can be very difficult for creditors
to recover their monies. The relevant limitation period is two years in British Columbia, Alberta,
Saskatchewan, Ontario, and New Brunswick, three years in Quebec, and six years in the rest of Canada.
Creditors rarely sue consumers after the relevant limitation period has expired. If you have an
unsecured consumer debt and you are not sued before the expiry of the limitation period in your
province then you are going to be able to avoid paying your outstanding debt altogether!
Once your unsecured consumer debt remains unpaid for six monthsand for months and years
thereafter then you have the option of attempting to settle your account by negotiating a one-time
lump sum payment as settlement in full. It is quite common for consumers to be able to negotiate
settlements with creditors in which the consumer makes a one-time lump sum payment equal to
somewhere between 25 cents and 50 cents of the current outstanding balance.
4. You might not obtain interest relief from your creditors
After you enroll in a Debt Management Plan then a counsellor from your credit counselling agency will
speak to your creditors and attempt to negotiate some kind of relief regarding interest accruing on your
outstanding balance during the life of your plan. There is, however, no guarantee that your creditor will
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agree to provide you with (1) generous interest relief, or (2) any relief whatsoever in connection with
interest. It is common for creditors to refuse interest relief to those debtors enrolled in a Debt
Management Plan with a for-profit credit counselling agency. Furthermore, if you fail to successfully
complete your Debt Management Plan then you should not anticipate saving a penny in interest relief.
5. A Debt Management Plan will not terminate existing lawsuits brought by creditors
If you make a consumer proposal any lawsuits brought by your unsecured creditors will be suspended or
stayed. In contrast, enrollment in a Debt Management Plan with a credit counselling agency will not
stay any existing lawsuits against you. Any current lawsuits against you, however, will be stayed if you
were to obtain a consolidation order. Your liability to your secured creditors and your liability for child
support and spousal support are not affected by a Debt Management Plan or a consolidation order.
6. A Debt Management Plan will not terminate existing wage garnishments
Making a consumer proposal or obtaining a consolidation order will terminate wage garnishments
except for those wage garnishments arising from liability for child support and spousal support
payments. Enrolment in a Debt Management Plan with a credit counselling agency does not terminate
any existing wage garnishments.
7. A Debt Management Plan is not available to eliminate student loans or monies owing to the
government
Enrolling in a Debt Management Plan with a credit counselling agency will not enable a consumer to
eliminate student loan debt or monies owing to the government.
In contrast, under a consolidation order a consumer can eliminate student loan debt and monies owing
to the government.
8. You are not entitled to have credit while you are in credit counselling
One of the disadvantages of credit counselling is that during your Debt Management Plan (or the life of
your consolidation order) an individual is not entitled to have access to credit. Neither of these debt
relief options, however, should prevent a person from obtaining a pre-paid credit card.
9. It might not be suitable for those who cannot make regular monthly payments
Credit counselling might not be suitable for those consumers who cannot make regular monthly
payments. This might include people who do not receive a regular paycheque, have seasonal
employment, or who routinely experience periods of unemployment.
10. You must include all of your unsecured consumer debt in your Debt Management Plan
You must include all of your unsecured consumer debts in your Debt Management Plan. In certain
circumstances, this lack of flexibility might be a disadvantage. This would be the case, for example, if
the relevant limitation period has expired, or will soon expire, on one or more of your unsecured
consumer debts.
11. You cannot take advantage of a limitation period to avoid paying a debt
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One of the disadvantages of credit counselling agency is that you will not be in a position to take
advantage of the expiry of a limitation period to avoid paying one or more outstanding accounts.
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The fact that a consumer makes a consumer proposal will have no impact on his secured debt nor on his
non-dischargeable debt.
5. You have the option of eliminating your debt by making a one-time payment of approximately
35 cents on the dollar
When a consumers creditors approve a consumer proposal a creditor will typically make monthly
payments to the bankruptcy trustee over a period of between three and five years. A consumer,
however, does have the option of paying out his consumer proposal liability much more quickly if the
necessary funds become available. This might come about because of funds made available from a
friend or family member. It might also occur because the consumer experiences a windfall such as an
inheritance or receipt of a large settlement cheque arising from a lawsuit. A consumer who can pay
out his indebtedness arising from a consumer proposal will be able to repair his credit rating and obtain
credit more quickly.
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If you make a consumer proposal then you are not entitled to have access to credit during the life of
your consumer proposal, typically between three and five years. It is common for some people
contemplating making a consumer proposal to buy an inexpensive used car before they make a
consumer proposal. The fact that you make a consumer proposal does not prevent you from having a
pre-paid credit card.
6. You must include all of your debts in a consumer proposal
If you make a consumer proposal you must include all of your debts in it, except for non-dischargeable
debt and secured debt. It is quite common for debtors contemplating a consumer proposal to want to
be able to exclude some debts from their consumer proposal. For example, if you have a loan from your
employer, you will likely want to repay this loan in full and not repay 35 percent of your indebtedness to
your employer over a five-year period.
7. You can seldom eliminate your debt for less than 30 cents on the dollar
One of the disadvantages of making a consumer proposal is that you can seldom eliminate your debt for
less than 30 cents on the dollar. While most bankruptcy trustees can share a story about how they did a
consumer proposal for less than 30 cents on the dollar this is not a typical result. In fact, many large
creditors have a policy not to accept settlements below 30 cents on the dollar. A trustee shared with me
that one of Canadas largest chartered banks has a strict policy not to agree to any settlement below 30
cents on the dollar!
In contrast, if you had one or more unsecured consumer accounts and you were to stop making
payments on these accounts, and your creditor did not sue you before the expiry of the relevant
limitation period in your province then you would have the option of not paying a penny in connection
with these accounts and your creditor were not to sue you before the expiry of the relevant limitation
period in your province, then you would be in a position where you could avoid paying a penny on your
unsecured consumer debt!
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In what two scenarios might credit counselling be more attractive than a consumer proposal?
There are two very limited circumstances in which credit counselling might be more attractive than
making a consumer proposal. In both of these instances, however, credit counselling is simply a shortterm fix, and not as the ultimate solution to the consumers debt problems. In these two scenarios, the
use of credit counselling is a bridging strategy, providing immediate relief and assisting a consumer
transition to a different debt relief option.
1. You anticipate your income will increase dramatically sometime in the next 12 to 36 months
Some Canadians experiencing debt problems will see their incomes or their net household income rise
dramatically in the next 12 to 36 months. This situation could arise under several different scenarios:
o
For these consumers credit counselling might be an attractive short-term strategy. This would provide
the consumer with some protection from creditors and a reduction in the consumers monthly
payments. Once a consumers income undergoes a dramatic increase then the consumer could drop
out of their Debt Management Plan (or cease making payments in accordance with a consolidation
order) and have the option of paying his outstanding debt in full at his earliest opportunity.
2. You want to eliminate your student loan indebtedness by declaring bankruptcy but you ceased
attending school less than seven years ago
You might have outstanding student loans in circumstances where your creditor refuses to negotiate a
discounted one-time lump sum payment for less than one hundred percent of the current outstanding
balance. In this scenario, you have two options for eliminating your student loan debt in which you do
not pay 100 percent of your outstanding balance:
o
You make a consumer proposal in which case you will likely pay approximately 35 cents
on the dollar with respect to your student loan indebtedness
You file for personal bankruptcy in which case your student loan indebtedness will be
forgiven on the condition that at the time of your bankruptcy you have ceased attending
school for seven years
Some people with outstanding student loans wanting to file for bankruptcy stopped attending school
less than seven years agoin which case their student loan debt would not be discharged, or forgiven,
in a bankruptcy. Debtors in this position might find it very helpful to enrol in a Debt Management
Plan with a credit counselling agency (or possibly obtain a consolidation order) solely for the purposes
of (1) obtaining protection from creditors, and (2) reducing their monthly debt payments, during the
period while they wait for this seven-year mark to arrive! Once a consumer has reached the point
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where he has ceased attending school for seven years he can then file for personal bankruptcy and
discharge his student loan indebtedness!
For those consumers with outstanding student loans living in Alberta, Saskatchewan, or Nova Scotia
waiting for the seven year mark to file for personal bankruptcy to discharge their student loans
obtaining a consolidation order might be more attractive than enrolling in a Debt Management Plan
with a credit counselling agency. Under a consolidation order you would be entitled to lower monthly
payments with respect to your outstanding student loans. In contrast, under a Debt Management
Plan you would not be entitled to any reduction in your monthly student loan payments because
student loans cannot be included in a Debt Management Plan.
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