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JenniferMcLean
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Guest
NealeDonaldWalsch
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Welcome, everyone, to Healing With The Masters. We have a very special guest, a regular,
NealeDonaldWalsch.BeforeIintroduceNeale,Iwanttotalkalittlebitaboutmasters.Ido
my little blurb here about masters. Its worth reminding us that the word has lots of
meanings, and some of us may think of masters as the wonderful guests that share their
knowledgeandexperienceswithuseachweek.Iconsideryoutobethemaster,eachofyouin
this audience, you the participant. No one knows you better than you, and no one is more
uniquelyqualifiedtotransformyourlifethanyou.Todaywewilltogetherdiscoverthetools
and techniques to heal, to continue to shift your life into love and light and, in the process,
truly make a difference on this beautiful and special planet of ours. Together we are a
powerfulcommunity.Youmatter.Youmakethedifference.Youcanlightuptheworld.
Tonight we are very honored to welcome our very special and dear friend, Neale Donald
Walsch.Nealehasbeenwithusformanyseasonsnow.Heisourregularcontributor,andwe
are honored that he chooses to join us each season and share his remarkable evolution of
knowledge. His wonderful work, Conversations with God, which he did many years ago, is
reaching millions of people all over the world and changing their lives every day. Its been
translatedinto34languages.Itssoldmillionsofbooks.Itchangedmylifepersonally.Itis
oneoftheseminalbooksthatgotmeontothepaththathasbroughtmetothisverymoment.
He continues to do that with the evolution of thought, with his new Conversations With
Humanityseries,wherehestakingtheseconversationswithGodtothenextlevel.Weareso
privilegedandhonoredthatthisbeautifulspiritualmessenger,whosewordscontinuetotouch
us in so many profound and powerful ways, joins us here on Healing With The Masters.
Welcome,NealeDonaldWalsch,toHealingWithTheMasters,Volumenine.
Well, Jennifer, youre scaring me. Theres no way in the world I can live up to that kind of
advancedbilling.Peopledontthinkofthemselvesinanyofthoseways,butIamveryhappy
tobehere.Thankyouverymuch.Thankyouforthosekindwords.Youreverygenerous.I
feelsocompletelyinadequate.
Well, I appreciate your humility and your humble approach. It really is part of the beautiful
aspectofyourteachings,Ithink,andanimportantwayofbeingintheworldthatIthinkyoure
startingtosharewithus.Itcanreallymakeusdifferentinhowweapproachthings.
Yourwonderfulnewbook,TheStormBeforetheCalm,issuchawonderfulconversationwith
humanity.Ilovehowyouusethatstyleinthebook,whereyouaskthequestionsthatyouget
allthetimeandanswerthem.SoifyoufolksarelookingforNealetoanswerthequestions
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that youre specifically asking, this book will do it, and more importantly, what this book is
goingtodoisstartaglobalconversation.Imgoingtogoaheadbystartingthewholeshowby
sharingthiswebsite.
Neale:
www.theglobalconversation.com
Itsaveryspecialwebsite.Canyoutellus,firstofall,alittlebitaboutthewebsite?ThenI
wanttodiverightintothesevenquestions.
I sure can, Jennifer. Thank you for asking me. The website has been designed as a global
platform, a place on the Internet where thousands of people weve had over a million
people visit the site already a place on the Internet where thousands and thousands of
peoplemayjoinustopostmanythings,numberone,toreact,actually,tothebook,chapter
bychapter.
Wehaveamessageboardtherethatsbrokendownintochapters,soaspeoplereadthebook,
TheStormBeforetheCalm,theycanactuallycommentonitoraskquestionsofmeaboutit,
chapter by chapter. Im very proud of that, because that allows people to have a direct
interactionwithme,bychapter,throughthebook.Idontknowofmaybeitsoutthere,
butrightnowImnotawareofanyotherauthorwhoisofferingthatopportunitytospeakwith
him.AnyreadercanspeakdirectlywithmeontheInternetastheyrereadingthebook.
Icanttellyou,Jennifer,howmanytimesinmylifeIvereadareallyimportantbook,abook
thatwasreallycrucialtomyownpersonalgrowth,butasIreadthroughit,Iwouldhavegiven
anything to be able to talk directly to the author on a perchapter basis when I ran across
materialthatIwasntquiteclearthatItotallyunderstood.Herewehaveanopportunityfor
peopletointeractwithmeinthatway.
More importantly, honestly, the other message board thats on the website is a message
boardwhereweinvitepeople,allthereadersofthebook,toposttheirhighestideasandtheir
verybestthoughtsabouthowhumanitycouldhealitselfbycreatinganewculturalstoryfor
our tomorrows, a new story about every aspect of the way we do our lives on this planet,
abouthowwedoourgovernments,howwedoourpolitics,howwedooureconomicsandour
businessandcommerce,howwehandleourenvironmentandourecology,howweapproach
the education of our young people, how we deal with marriages and partnerships and
sexuality, how we deal with health and how we deal with spirituality and religion and really
everyaspectofhumaninteraction.
I was told, Jennifer, that the next great mission for humanity itself is for us to create a new
cultural story for our species, that the new story, in this particular case, cannot come down
fromonhigh,notfromsomeglobalreligiousleader,notfromsomeworldwidepoliticalleader,
not from some captain of business or industry, not even from some philosopher or great
educator.Butinfact,thenewstoryforhumanitymustbewrittenbyhumanityitself,andthis
isourgreatchallenge.Thisisournextfrontier,couldbethefinalfrontierwherewerewrite
the script about our life here and how we choose to interact with each other and how we
choosetococreatelifetogetherontheplanetEarth.
Soweinvitepeople,whoareatthatwebsite,whichis:
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Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
theglobalconversation.com
We invite people to share with us and to post their highest thoughts and their best ideas in
everyareaofhumaninteraction.Wewilltakethemostinspiringandthemostextraordinary
of those ideas and place them in a book called Our Collective Dream, and that book will be
handdelivered to the worlds political leaders, the worlds economic leaders, the worlds
spiritualleaders.WewillseetoitthatourbookisdeliveredtotheVatican.Wewillseetoit
thatthebookisdeliveredtotheArchbishopofCanterbury.Wewillseetoitthatthebookis
deliveredtothechiefuvamaandtheheadrabbi,tothePresidentoftheUnitedStatesandthe
primeministersandthepresidentsofallthegreatcountriesoftheworldforthatmatter.
We will put this book, humanitys next dream, in the hands of the people who have the
opportunity to impact and to help cocreate that dream from their places of power and
authorityinthehumanexperience.Soweareinvitingpeopleto,infact,toturnaphrase,to
writethebookandtocreatethebook,whichcouldstandastheMagnaCarta,astheglobal
statement for all the world to see and to read and for the worlds leaders to take under
advisementastheycreateourcollectivetomorrows.Thatsthepointofthewebsite,togive
peopleanopportunitytocreate,collectively,peoplefromallovertheworld,ournewcultural
story.
ItsamagnificentthingthatyourekindofIdontwanttosaythatweredoing,becauseI
knowdoingisnotthepointhere.Itsawonderfulthingthatyouvecreatedforus.
Well,thankyou.
Ijustwanttosaytotheaudience,ifyouwantyourvoicetobeheard,ifyouwanttomakethe
difference,goto:
And contribute. Just imagine your beautiful voice being read by these leaders around the
world.Itsawonderfulthing,butthisnotionofdoingisnotthepointhere.Idlovetotalka
littlebitaboutbe,do,havethatyoumentioninthebookandaboutbeingnessasanewwayof
insteadofanewsocialeconomyoranewcapitalismornotevendemocracyoranythinglike
that,theresbeingism.DidIgetthatright?
Yes,yes.ItsanewwordIvecoined,andthewordsuggestsamannerofexperiencinglifeand
away,throughtheworld,forthatlovetobeexpressedmorefully,morecompletelyandmore
abundantlybyallthepeoplesoftheEarth.Sowearecallingforaninvitingpeopletomoveto
anewlevelintheirexpressionoftheirownhumanity,andthatleveliswhatIcallbeingness.
Thatdoesntmeanwewontbedoingthings.Thatdoesntmeanthatweregoingtobesitting
inacornersomeplace,lookingatacandleflickeringinthedarkness,listeningtosoftmusic24
hoursaday.Itdoesmeanthatwewillbedoingmanythings,butourdoingness,whatIcall
doingness,thestuffweredoingeverydayofourlives,willbebasedinadifferentreality.That
ishowandwhywedothethingswedowillbedramaticallydifferentfromwhatitistoday.
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Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Sothehowandwhychanges.
Yeah,thatsright,andthatstheintentionandthepurposeoftheentirewebsite.Thatsthe
intentionandthepurposeoftheentireprogramandofthewholemovement.
Yousaythat,inthisnotionofbeingness,lifecomesfromus,nottous.Sayalittlebitmore
aboutthat.
I think that its a misunderstanding of many people, that life is somehow coming to us from
someplaceoutsideofus.Infact,thetruthisthatlifeisemergingfromusandthatitisnota
processofreceivingbutratheraprocessofsendingthecreativeenergiesoflifetolife.Wedo
itcollectively,andwedoitindividually,butweredoingitallthetime.
So most people experience that life is something that is happening to them, rather than
somethingthatishappeningthroughthem.WhatIhavebeentold,inmyconversationswith
God,isthatitspreciselytheotherwayaround.Thatdoesntmean,necessarily,thatweare,
all of us, individually and unilaterally creating the circumstances of the life that we are
experiencing.
Thatis,Iamnotinthesingular,Iamnotinthefirstperson,responsiblefortheconditionsin
IraqorforthetsunamithatdevastatedtheEarthacoupleofyearsago,orforthatmatter,for
myunclefallingdownthestairsandbreakinghisankle.Itwouldbeinaccuratetoassumeorto
suggest, to myself or to others, that I am somehow unilaterally or individually creating that
exteriorevent.Thatsamisunderstanding,Jennifer,thatIthinkpeopleneedtobeclearabout.
Oneofthegreatmisunderstandingsofsocallednewthoughtphilosophyandthenewthought
message is the idea that somehow or another human beings are creating their own reality
individually,andsothereforeIam,accordingtothatconcept,Iamresponsibleforpersonally
andindividuallycreatingthetsunamiand,forthatmatter,myunclefallingdownthestairslast
week.
Thathascreatedalotofmisunderstanding,Jennifer,andalotofpeoplepushbackfromthe
idea that you create your own reality because of that misunderstanding, because they say,
quitecorrectly,Idontfeelgoodaboutit,nordoIfeelpreparedtoacceptresponsibilityforall
thehappeningsoftheworldasifallofitismydoing.Infact,itisnot.
What is true is that we are collaboratively creating the exterior events of our reality and
individuallycreatingtheinteriorresponsetothoseevents.Inthatsense,wearecreatingour
ownreality.Jennifer,theexamplethatIliketouseistwopeoplearestandingoutside,andits
raining.Itcouldnotbesaidthatoneofthemortheother,forthatmatter,individuallycaused
theraintooccur.Theyarenotindividuallypowerfulenoughintheuniversetodecidewhat
kindofweathertheywanttohaveonanyparticularday.Collaboratively,creatively,thewhole
ofhumanitycouldmakesuchchoices,andwedo.
Collectiveconsciousnessproduces,absolutely,theconditionsandcircumstancesthatweface
intheworldeveryday,butwhatdoeshappenisthateachofthetwopeoplewhoarewatching
the raincome down are abletodecideforthemselvesand tochooseforthemselves exactly
whatthatmeans.SopersonAisexcited,becausehiscropsarenotgoingtofail,andpersonB
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isdevastated,becauseitsthedayoftheparade.Heistheparadeorganizerforthecity,and
hesbeenplanningtheparadeforsevenmonths.
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Sobothof them have differentexperiencesoftheexactsame exteriorofthereality. Thats

whatsmeantbyyoucreateyourownreality.Thatswhatsmeantbytherealityyouareliving
is emerging through you, not coming to you. What is coming to you is the collaborative
experience, the collective reality that has been created by life collectively, by, that is, the
collectiveconsciousnessofallbeingsontheplanet.Doesthatmakeanysense?HaveImade
thatclear,ordidIloseyou?
Yeah. No, no. Its clear, I think, that we are collectively influencing everything through our
owninteriorbeliefs.Youtalkquiteabitaboutbeliefs.Isthatkindoftheframeofreference
here?
Yes.Thecollectivebeliefsofhumanity,ofcourse,iswhatwecallourcollectiveconsciousness.
Thecollectiveconsciousnessofhumanityiswhatiscreatingourcollectiveandcollaboratively
produced experience, which is not new information. Philosophers and scientists, for that
matter,formany,manyyearshavebeenmakingthatveryclear,thatwehavewhatsknownas
thecollectiveunconscious.
Soweveheardthesewordsfromphilosophersandscientists,aswellasfrommembersofthe
spiritualcommunityforaverylongtime.Wevenotlistenedtothemclosely,however.Now,
itispossiblethatapersonwithastrikinglystrongindividualbeliefsystemorpointofviewcan,
infact,haveanextraordinaryimpactandinfluenceuponcollectiveconsciousness.
Thatis,withoutadoubt,true,andweknowpeopleinhumanhistorywhohavehadjustsuch
animpact,MartinLutherKing,Jr.forexample,Gandhi,forexample,andtogobacktotimes
farmoreancientthanthat,peopleliketheBuddhaandtheChrist,Mohammadandothers.So
weareclearthatapersonwhohasaverystrongconsciousnesshastheabilitytoimpactandto
deeplyinfluencecollectiveconsciousness.Theresnodoubtaboutthat.
Soourworkwithincanreallyshiftthewhole.
Theresnoquestionaboutthat,andwhatitwillalsodo,itwillshifttheexperiencethateachof
ushaveofthewhole,andthatwillproduceaprofoundchangeinourownmovementthrough
life,suchthatitwillturnitselfintoenergiesthatprecedesomuchintolifeitself.
Let me clarify what I meant by that statement. If I am deciding within myself that the rain
outsideisagoodthingandnotabadthing,ifImmakinganaffirmativejudgmentaboutthat,
whatevertheexterioreventmightbe,Iwillfeelgoodaboutit,andIwillthenbegintocarry
wherever I go an aura of positive feelings, which will, in fact, add to the collective
consciousnessinsuchawaythatmorepositiveoutcomesbegintobeproducedcollectivelyin
both the space around me and extended out further to the world at large. So its a circular
effect,acircularimpact.Itsquiteextraordinary.
Anditfeelsveryempoweringtoo,thatme,sittinghere,adjustingmylimitingbeliefs,adjusting
myyoutalkaboutthemainlimitingbeliefsinourculture,whichisabeliefinseparation,a
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beliefinlack,abeliefthatwearenotdivine.IfIcanfundamentallychangethem,Icanactually
impacttheentireplanetandourentireculturalstory.
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Yes, and that, of course is where the power lies. Our ability to functionally alter the beliefs
that drive the engine of our experience, that is where both the individual and the collective
power of human beings lies. Once we understand that, we of course begin to live entirely
differentkindsoflives.
Itsveryexciting,andImfeelingtheenergyofthewholeaudiencejustbeingkindofbuoyed
uponthisenergyofpossibilitythatweactuallycanmakeadifference.Soletstalkalittlebit
aboutyoutalkaboutthenewculturalstoryforhumanityinyourbook.Imcurioustoget
yourwordsdirectly.Whatwouldyouputintoanewculturalstoryforhumanity?
Youveaskedmethequestionofthecentury.Ofcoursethatwouldtakeanotherwholebook
toanswer.Thenewculturalstoryforhumanitycoverseveryareaofhumanexperience,asI
mentioned a minute ago, sexuality and parenting and livelihood, the economy, the ecology,
politics, every area of human interaction. I dont think we have time, in this particular
program,formetotellyouwhatmynewculturalstorywouldbeforhumanity.Icangiveyou
onehuge,broadbrushstroke,whichapparentlyiswhatyourelookingfor.
Sure.
Thatwouldbeanoverarchingawareness,anoverarchingunderstanding,adeeplyheldinsight
tothehumanconditionthatwouldinformallthoseareasIjusttalkedabout.Itwouldinform
our politics. It would inform our economics, our business and industry and commerce and
inform our educational systems, our spirituality and all the rest of the areas of human
interactionthatIspokeofaminuteago.
Thatoverarchingideacanbereducedtofourwords.Wearethesamepowerfulstatements
in Conversations With God. We are all one overlaid on humanitys cultural story as it is
articulatedandexpressedandexperiencedinallthoseareasIspokeof.Thatsingleideaasthe
foundation of our economics, of our politics, of our educational systems, of our spirituality.
Thatfoundationalthoughtwouldshifttheworldovernight.
Sowevebeentold,weveunderstoodfromthebeginningoftimeweveunderstoodfora
verylongtimethebasictruthoftheuniversethatwouldchangeeverything.Wesimplyhave
refused to embrace it. We simply have refused to entertain it. We simply have refused,
actually,toseriouslyexploreitinanybutthesmallestnumbers.Thelargestnumberofpeople
have simply moved away from it, and that is because there has been a singular lack of
leadershipinourspiritualareas,inourpoliticalcommunities,inourbusinessandindustry.No
onewantstoseriouslyconsiderwhatitwouldmeantolivealife,muchlesstobuildaworld,
basedontheideathatweareallone.
Thatdoesntmeanthattherearenodifferences.Itdoesntmeanthatweareallidentical.We
areallonedoesnotmeanthatweareallidentical.Itsimplymeansweareallone,andthe
differencebetweenthetwoisobvious.Soalotofpeopleareafraidofembracingthenotion
ofouronenessbecausetheyfeelthattheywilllosetheirpersonalidentityandthattheywill
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somehowmeldintosomemassiveamorphousbeing,liketheBorg,andthatwewillnotever
knowourselvesindividuallyagain.
Jennifer:
Neale:
Nothing could be further from the truth, and in fact, its not what is so. So oneness is not
synonymouswithsameness,andthats,Ithink,anotherimportantmessagethatmostteachers
intheNewThoughtcommunityleaveoutwhentheytalkabouttheonenessofallofhumanity.
Ifwecouldteachchildren,inschool,ataveryyoungage,certainfoundationalideas,notthe
leastofwhichisthatweareallone,wewould,infact,inonegeneration,beabletoshiftthe
realityofourworldandchangedramaticallythewayweviewlifeonthisplanet.
Iwanttoadd,whenIsayweareallone,Imnotmerelytalkingaboutusbeingonewitheach
other.Therearealotofpeoplewhocanactuallyacceptthat.Okay,wereone,inthesense
that Im my brothers keeper. Were all part of the same family, the human family. So I
accept,andIembracethenotionofouroneness.ButImtalkingaboutanotionofoneness
thattranscendsthelimitationofthehumanfamily.
WhenIsayweareallone,Imeanweareallonebeing,asingularexpressionoftheonlything
thereis.Toputitinstraightforward,pointblankterms,weareallonewithGod.Weareall
one with the only thing there is, which some cultures call God, Allah, Brahman, Yahweh,
Jehovahorbywhateverothernameitpleasesustorefertothatineffableessence,whichis
theDivine.
Sothenotionofouronenessisnotanotionthatisspokenofortaughtinourschools,inour
religions,inourpoliticalpartiesorreally,frankly,anywhereinanyseriousexpansivewaythatI
am aware of. Yet again, I want to make mention of the fact that, if we embraced such a
notion,wecouldchangethewaytheworldisexperiencedinonegeneration.
Weareallone,andtheresasecondparttothat,thatyoutalkaboutinthebook.Itsinyour
ConversationWithGodbook,whichisoursisnotabetterway;oursismerelyanotherway.To
me, that statement gives such space for people to be not the same as each other and allow
each other to have an opinion. It just creates a whole opportunity for changing the whole
dynamicofhowallofusinteractwithoneanother.
ThatswhatIcallthe15wordnewgospel.Thenewgospelofhumanityisweareallone.Ours
isnotabetterway;oursismerelyanotherway.Icantellyouthat,ifweeverembracedthat
gospelasourlivingtruth,wereallywould,noexaggeration,changethewaylifeisexperienced
ontheEarthvirtuallyovernight,certainlyinonegeneration.
IhaveneverheardandIwouldchallengeonthisday,Iwouldchallengeeveryworldleader,
every political figure, every religious figure, every captain of business and industry, every
teacherineveryclassroomIwouldchallengeanyoneofthosepeople,evenoneofthem,to
saytotheirstudents,totheirfollowers,totheircongregation,totheirpartymembers,totheir
customers,towhateveraudiencetheycouldaddressIwouldchallengeanyoneofthemto
say,Weareallone.Oursisnotabetterway;oursismerelyanotherway.
CanyouimaginethePopestandingbeforetheworldsaying,Oursisnotabetterway;oursis
merelyanotherway?
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Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Wow.Thatwouldbeamiracle.
Can you imagine the head of any political party, could you imagine Mitt Romney or Barack
ObamasayingtoAmerica,Oursisnotabetterway;oursismerelyanotherway?Canyou
imagineNewtGingrichorRickSantorumsayingsuchathing?Canyouimaginethepremierof
anymajornation,thetoppoliticalleaderinRussiaorthetopeducatoratYaleorHarvardI
wanttohearanypersonhavethecourtesy,havethecouragetosaytotheworld,Ourisnota
betterway;oursismerelyanotherway.
Thatwouldbringalevelofcivilityand,asyoumentioned,alevelofopennesstothediscourse
thatwouldallowpeopletoexplorethegiftandthetreasureofeverypointofviewandevery
idea and then to shift through, then, rather than immediately off the table, off the top just
disregard it, because it came from the socalled other side in a conversation. So it is
regrettablethatrightnow,bothintheUnitedStatesand,tosomedegreearoundtheworld,
civildiscourse.Civilcourteousinteractionbetweenpeoplewhoholdopposingpointsofview
isnolongeracommonlyobservedaspectofhumanbehavior.
Sowecanchangethediscoursebymerelyadoptingthatnewgospelforourselvesinourown
lives.
Precisely, precisely, by being walking demonstrations of the wonderfulness, if I could coin a
word, of the new gospel. We are all one. Ours is not a better way; ours is merely another
way.Suchademonstration,suchaliving,breathingdemonstrationwouldgofar,andpeople
who exhibited the qualities that would be necessary to demonstrate that truth would be
hailedasnewleadersinourcommunities,inourchurches,inourpoliticalparties,inourboard
roomsofourmajorcorporationsandanywhereelsethatparticularpeoplecongregate.
To say nothing of in our classrooms. Can you imagine a curriculum for young people,
anywherefromages6and7to16and17,canyouimagineacurriculuminourschoolsthat
wouldbegin,notendbutbeginwiththeconceptsweareallone,oursisnotabetterway,ours
ismerelyabetterway.Soweretalkingabouthere,yes,alifechanging,simple,15wordnew
gospel. Because it is lifechanging, very few people would have the courage to embrace it,
because our political, economic, social, educational and spiritual leaders have a deep
investmentinthingsremainingexactlyastheyare.
Thiscommunityandthecommunitythatyourebuildingon:
Hasadeepinvestmentinmovingintoaplaceofexpansion,opportunityandpossibility,andit
comes from knowing how powerful we are. I want to talk about this notion of personal
responsibility and divinity and belief. Its such a seminal piece of this new guiding principle,
that we can start believing in ourselves, start believing in our own divinity, start believing in
the power that we have and start moving from maybe victimhood and moving to a place of
personalresponsibilityandshifting.
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Neale:
Jennifer:
Youtalkquiteabitaboutthatthroughoutthebook.Itsnotreallyaquestion.Itskindofa
broadstatement,butIwouldloveforyoutofillinsomegapsthereontellusmoreabout
howimportantourroleisinourbeliefstructure.
Jennifer, I feel like Im preaching to the choir here, because the kinds of statements youre
makingarethekindsofstatementsthatpeoplewholistentoyourprogramstheyalready
believeinthat.Sotheyreprobablyyawningatthispoint.Itsgoingtosoundveryhohumto
them.Wevebeenhearingnow,intheNewThoughtcommunity,andforthatmatter,more
broadly, in much of the world at large, how we are responsible, either metaphysically or
physically, for that matter, individually responsible and certainly collectively so for the
outcomesthathumanityiscreatingandexperiencing.
Soitsnotnew.ItsnotNewThought.ItsnotNewAge.Itsnotnewinformation.Itsbeen
aroundforaverylongtime,andpeopleinthesocalledNewThoughtcommunityareprobably
gettingalittletiredofhearingit.Yeah,yeah,yeah.Weunderstand.Weunderstand.We
understand.
TherealissueisnotsomuchwhatcanIsayherenowtohelppeoplehearonemoretimethat
weneedtotakepersonalresponsibility,bothspirituallyandphysicallyforourworldatlarge,
but really to discuss how thats possible, to take a look at how could we take that thought,
which we all already embrace, and render it functional in our daily lives. That becomes the
real question, because I dont think that people have really grappled with that particular
question.HowcanImakethisideaofmyownpersonalresponsibilityinthematterfunctional
inmyowndailylife?
What its going to take is courage and commitment and leadership on the part of everyone
whos listening now to the sound of my voice. Its not something that we do passively. Its
somethingthat wewould doactively.Itssomething thatwouldactively createand actively
produce outcomes based on our active choice and our active decision to do so, which is an
outgrowthoranoutflowingofouractiveintentiontofullyembraceourroleaswhowereally
are,asinfact,thecollaborativecocreatorsofourcollectivereality.
Thatisbothaphysicalandametaphysicaldecisionandchoice.Itisaninteriordecisionthat
produces exterior outcomes, impacts and effects. So the first step of the process, as I
understandit,Jennifer,iswehavetomakeaninteriordecision.Thatis,wehavetomakea
decisionatthelevelofbeingness.Wehavetodecidewhatwechoosetobe.
Togiveyouanexample,andthisisnottobreakmyownarmpattingmyselfontheback,butto
giveyouapracticalexample,Ihavechosentobethatsource,whichimpactsallthosewhose
livesItouchand,tothedegreethatIamable,theworldatlargewithalargerawareness,a
granderunderstanding,abiggeridea,astrongernotion,amoremagnificentvisionofwhowe
reallyareandwhowecannowchoosetobeifwechoosetodoso.
SothatswhoIam.Thatismy,whatIwillcall,amingnessstatement.ItskindoflikeAmway.
ThatisthewayIam.Ifwecouldmakethatamultilevelmarketingscheme,itwouldbeoff
andrunning.
Letsdoit.
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Neale:
ThegreatAmwaymultilevelmarketingscheme.WhatisthewaythatIam?Butthefirststep
isthemostdifficultformanypeople.Illtellyouwhy.Becauseittakesagreatdealofinner
couragetomakesuchadeepinnerdecision,becauseweknowthat,ifwemakesuchadeeper
inner decision, its going to be showing up. Its going to be reflected in our outer behaviors
soonerorlater,andpeoplearegoingtocallusonit.
Peoplearegoingtosay,Excuseme,butwhodoyouthinkyouare?DidIactuallyhearyou
say,ontheradio,onabroadcastprogram,thatyouthinkthatyouarethesourceorcertainly
one of the sources on the planet of inspiring and igniting a global shift in planetary
consciousness?DidIhearyousaythat?Whodoyouthinkyouare?
Sowehaveto,infact,answerthequestionliterally.Wehaveto,infact,answerthequestion
by saying, This is who I think I am. In fact, I am that, and Im not sure I know why youre
havingaproblemwithmybeingthat,becausebytheway,youarethattoo.Youarelikewise
impacting and affecting global consciousness. Theres only one difference between us. Im
doingitintentionally,andyoumaybedoingitunintentionally.
Eachofusisplacingourindividualenergy,choices,decisions,ideas,actions,thoughtsintothe
cauldron,intothespace,intothemix.Werealldoingit,butItellyouthis,thosewhodoit
with consciousness, with intention, with clarity, change the contents of the cauldron itself.
That is, we mix up the mixture, and those are the Martin Luther King, Jrs. Those are the
Gandhis.ThosearetheLechWalesas.Thosearethepeoplewhostandupandsay,Excuse
me.Ibegyourpardon,andmightweconsideranotherpossibilityhere?Mightweconsider
anotherway?Thosearethepeoplewho,infact,alter,shiftandchangetheworldatlarge,
theworldentire.
So that is the first step. The first step in rendering this concept of personal responsibility
functionalisto,infact,stepintoourownhighestthoughtaboutitandstatethattoourselves.
Thesecondstepthen,itseemstome,istowatchlifebringus,insucceedingmoments,after
we make that decision, opportunities to demonstrate it. It will often bring us those
opportunitiesintheformoftheexactoppositeconditions.
Thatis,thelawofoppositeswillplayitseffect,ortoputitinsimpleterms,togiveyouareally
easyexample,Imightsay,IamNealethepatient.Iamapatientperson,andIamNealethe
patient person. No sooner will I make that declaration than everything unlike it will come
intothespace.IfImnotcareful,Iwillpushbackfromthat,andIwillremovemyselffromthe
spaceofstrugglewiththat.Butthatinnerstruggletobethehighestthoughtofwhowereally
areiswhattheIslamicfaithcallsjihad.
The word jihad has gotten a really bad name, a really bad wrap in recent years, because its
been misused, as many spiritual principles have been misused by many people of many
religions.IntheMuslimreligion,inthefaithofIslam,jihadwasnotintendedtobeusedasa
term for exterior war or killing or terrorism or using death and destruction as a means of
changing the world. Jihad was originally placed into the theological language of Islam as a
term that referred to ones inner struggle, the inner struggle to reach higher and higher, to
express grander and grander, to display bigger and bigger notions of who we are, thus to
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becomecloserandclosertoAllah,toGoditself.Thatwastheoriginalmeaningoftheword
jihad.
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
ThatswhatImtalkingabouthereasoursecondstep,becauseassoonaswedecideanything
about ourselves, everything unlike it is going to come into the space. Thats a moment of
decisionforus.DidIreallymeanthat,oramIwillingtoletgoofitnowbecauseitsgotten,all
ofasudden,very,verydifficult?
Iwanttosaythatthethirdstepintheprocessofactivatingourideathatweareallresponsible
istofeelthefearanddoitanyway.Weveheardthatoften,frommany,manyteachers.Itsa
wonderful, wonderful message. Feel the fear and do it anyway, to step into your original
notionandyouroriginalintentandtoallowthatintenttoplayitselfout,notjustinthegrand
momentsoflife,whenwereonstageinfrontofanaudienceorinfrontofamicrophone,as
we are now, talking to thousands of people, but in the small moments of our life as well,
acrossthekitchentable,acrossthefrontseatofacar,walkingdownthestreet,standinginthe
lineatthesupermarketandlivingthequietmomentsofoureverydaylife.
Infact,Iwanttosaythat,morethantheothermoments,thosetimesevenmorethantheso
called big moments of our lives, those are the times when we will have an opportunity to
announceandtodeclare,toexpressandtofulfill,tobecomeandtodemonstrateourgrandest
notion of the space of responsibility we are willing to take as we stand responsible for the
resultsallaroundus,thatweareplacingintotheexperienceofhumanityatlarge.
HowamIinthebarbershop?HowamIatthesupermarket?HowamIatthebreakfasttable?
IcanbeveryeloquentinaninterviewwithJenniferMcLean.Icanbeveryinsightful.Icanbe
filled with wisdom and surround myself with absolute clarity. How am I when Im driving
down the road and somebody cuts me off in traffic or when my beloved other makes a
suggestionacrossthefrontseatofthecarthatImnotparticularlyhappytoreceive?
Itsinthesmallmomentsoflifethatthebigchoicesaremade.Everyoneneedstoremember
thatandputitontheirrefrigerator.Itisinthesmallmomentsoflifethatthebiggestchoices
aremade.
Wow.IkindoffeltlikeIwantedthattositthere.Thatsgoingtobethephrasethatpays.The
smallmomentsoflifethatthebiggestchoicesaremade.
Itsinthesmallestmomentsoflifethatthebiggestchoicesaremade.Noquestionaboutthat.
AndIcanfeeltheaudienceIcanfeelmyselfkindofcontractalittlebitagainstthat,because
IhavemanysmallmomentsthatImnotproudof.
Well,fortunatelyyouretheonlyone.
Oh,thankGod.Itsjustme.SoImtheonlyonethatsscrewinguphumanity,Neale.
Yeah, so please clean your act up, because the rest of us are waiting for you. Whats really
funnyisthatweallfeelthatway.Allofusfeelexactlythatway.Thatswhatsfunnyand,in
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someways,sad,becausewefeelthat,IfonlyIwerentdoingwhatImdoing,ifonlyIwerent
messingupthewayImmessingup,thingswouldbebetterallaroundus.
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
The fact of the matter is that we have to let go of that idea. First of all, Jennifer, nobodys
messing up. Even if were not doing it exactly the way we would like to, even if in every
momentwearenotshowingupinourgrandest,largest,biggestform,wearestillnotmessing
up.Itisallpartoftheenormousprocess.Theendless,continuousprocessofevolution.
So Ive learned to forgive myself of those times when Im not in my smallest moments, my
biggestself,butIvealsolearnednottotoleraterepeatingthesamemistakesoverandover
again.Iveallowedmylifetobeinstructivetome.IvedecidedtowatchwhatImdoingand
notbemadorangrywithmyselfwhenIdontdoitinthebestway,butalsotonotbeoblivious
butrathertonoticeanduseeachsocallederrorasasteppingstoneandarungontheladder
uptothehighestplacewhichIseektogo.
Theresanoldstoryaboutthatladderanalogy.Itsaboutthespiritualleaderwhoistalkingto
hispeople.Theywereinavalleyoutsideafort,andtheyhadbeentoldthat,ontheotherside
of the wall, inside the fort, the people were having a wonderful life, all they could possibly
want,allthejoy,allthehappinesstheycouldpossiblyconceiveof.Butoutsidethewallsofthe
fortress,peoplewerestarving,livingaterriblelife,barelysurviving,veryangry,buttherewasa
spiritual leader who said, I can show you the way over the wall so that we can climb the
ladderandgettotheothersideofthewall.
So he convinced them to build a ladder. It took them many years to build the ladder high
enough,butpainstakingly,rungbyrung,theybuilttheladder.Hewentuptheladdertothe
toprungsohecouldseeoverthewall,andtheysaid,Master,isittrue?Isittruethatwhats
on the other side is paradise; all anyone could possibly imagine or conceive of? Tell us,
master.Whatdoyousee?
He said, Its true. Its true. Its paradise. Its wonderful. Its extraordinary. They said,
Master,go.Gooverthewall.Gototheotherside.Bethefirstofus.Youdeserveit.Youve
beenourleaderforalltheseyears.Youdeserveit.Gooverthewall.Wewillfollow.The
mastersaid,No.No,itisnotminetogooverthewall.
Withthat,hereacheddown,andhesaid,Come.Come.Ihavenotcometothetopofthis
laddertobethefirsttoreachthehighestplace.Ivecometothetopofthisladdertobethe
firsttoreachdownandpullyouuptotheplaceIamandevenbeyond.
Thatwasbeautiful.Imalittleemotional,soImrecovering.Thisisnotonlywhatyourlifeis,
andIknowyourenotsayingthatstorytoillustrateyourlife,butthatiswhatspossibleforall
ofustobedoing.
Itsthedefinition,Jennifer,ofleadership.Aleaderisnotonewhosays,Followme.Aleader
isonewhosays,Illgofirst.
Yeah, baby. Im in. Weve been talking about personal responsibilities. Weve been talking
aboutbeliefs,andsomeoftheaudienceissharingthatpersonalstuffaboutyouevenwrote
thisquestioninyourbook.Itsgoingalongwithwhatalotofpeoplearewritingin,whichis
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howdoyoumakethiswork,asinyourlifeandallofthis,ifyoudonthavewhatyouneedto
haveinordertobewhatyouwishtobe?Sogettingbacktothatnotionofbe,do,haveversus
ourcurrentculturalstory,whichishave,do,be,howdowemakeitworkifwedonthaveit?
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Theresnothingyouneedtohaveinordertobewhatyouwanttobe.Youdontneedtohave
anythinginordertobekind,inordertobegood,inordertobecheerful,inordertobeloving,
in order to be caring and compassionate and patient and understanding and forgiving. You
dont need to have anything in order to be what youve chosen to be. You merely need to
actively choose to be that, regardless of what you have, regardless of whatever exterior
circumstancesexistcurrentlyinyourlife.
Thegloryandthewonderoflifeisthatwecanbewhateverwesaywewishtobe.Thewonder
andgloryoflifeisthatwearewhatwesayweare.SoIhavetaughtnow,fornearly15years,
choosetobewhatyouwishtobe,secure,happy,peaceful,wise,clear,caring,compassionate,
forgiving,regardlessoftheexteriorcircumstances,situationsoreventsinyourlife.Whatyou
will discover then is that suddenly the exterior situations or circumstances in your life will
begintoemergefromyouandthroughyou.Theyalsohavebeen.Yousimplyhaventnoticed
it.
Whenyouadoptandembraceastateofbeingwithcompleteintention,withabsoluteclarity,
the universe has no choice but to match its vibration to yours, and you begin to experience
exterior circumstances and events that are more in harmony with your clearly stated
beingness. But you have to have the courage to state your beingness in the face of, and I
mightsayinspiteof,appearancestothecontrary.
So judge not by appearances. It may appear as if you dont have enough money, or it may
appearasifyoudonthaveenoughtime,oritmayappearasifcertainotherconditionsand
circumstances are holding you back. Nothing is holding you back from being totally loving,
totallyclear,totallycompassionate,totallyunderstanding,totallyforgiving,totallycreativeor
totallyanything.
As soon as you are clear about that, as soon as you become totally clear about that and
embraceyourstateofclarityasyourstateofbeing,youwillbegintoactinwaysthatgenerate
outcomesinthephysicalworldthatonlyapersonwhoisthosethingscouldpossiblygenerate.
So the things in our physical world, our tools theyre tools, but you also say in your book
that we are not here to be tested or to experience lessons. Thats not why were on the
planet.
No,no,no.Lifeisnotaschool.No,no.Lifeisnotaschool,becausewehavenothingtolearn.
Wealreadyknoweverythingweneedtoknowwhenwearrivehere.Lifeisnotaschool.Life
isaplatform,aspace,anenvironment,ifyouplease,acontext,contextualfieldwithinwhich
we are invited and allowed to demonstrate what we already know, to demonstrate who we
already are and who we have always been. So life is not about learning anything. Its not
about being tested. Its not being given an opportunity to demonstrate what weve always
known.
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Jennifer:
Neale:
Lookatthetreeoutsideyourwindow.Itknowsnothingmorenowthanitknewwhenitwasa
seedlingor,forthatmatter,whenitwasaseeditself,nolargerthanyourfingernail.Itknew
everythingwhenitwasaseed,everythingitneededtoknowtobethemagnificenttreeitis
rightnow.Itwasencodedinit.Allithasdonefromthattimetonowissimplygrowintoitself.
Thatis,itssimplybecomemoreitself.
The only mistaken understanding within the human experience is you think youre different
fromatree,butinfact,ifGodwouldimbueasimple,althoughelegantandlovely,treewith
suchinitialencoding,wouldhenotallthemoreclotheyou?Sodontgoaroundwondering,
whatarewetoeat,whatarewetodrink?Wherewithalwillweclotheourselves?Seekyefirst
thekingdomofheaven,andallthesethingswillbeaddeduntoyou.
Itsreallyquitesimple,andwedonthavetohaveanythinginordertobewhatwechooseto
be. But these understandings form the basis of the seven questions that I ask in The Storm
BeforetheCalm.Beforewesaygoodbye,Iwanttogettothosesevenquestions,becauseyou
promisedthosetoourlisteners.
Yes,letsdothat.
InTheStormBeforetheCalm,Iaskedpeopletotakealistofsevenquestionsandusethose
questions as the basis for ontheground discussions, conversations that they will have with
people all over the world in cities, towns and villages everywhere. I invite people to form
global conversation discussion groups in their home or just spontaneously create
conversationsattheirplaceofbusiness,aroundthewatercooler,walkingdownthestreet,in
thebeautyparlor,wherevertheyhappentobe,thatyouallowthoseconversationstorevolve
aroundsevensimplequestions.
Questionnumberone:howisitpossiblefor6.9billionpeopletoallclaimtheywantthesame
thingandbeunabletogetit?Howisitpossible?Wehaventbeentryingthisforacoupleof
weeks or a couple of months or a couple of years or a couple of decades or a couple of
centuries. Weve been trying to achieve this particular outcome, health, peace, safety,
security,prosperity,love,happiness,joy,opportunity,selfexpressionwevebeentryingto
createthoseoutcomesforthelargestmembersofourspeciesforthousandsandthousandsof
years.Howisitpossibleforsevenbillionpeopletobetryingtoproducethesameoutcomefor
thousandsofyearsandbetotallyunabletodoit?
Questionnumbertwo:isitpossiblethattheressomethingwesimplydontunderstandhere,
the understanding of which would change everything? Might there be some data out,
somethingthatweremissing?Hasitoccurredtousthatthereasonwecantgetwherewe
wanttogo,afterthousandsofyearsoftrying,isthatweregoingtothewrongplacetobegin
with?
Questionnumberthree:isitpossiblethattheressomethingwedontunderstandaboutwho
weareindividually,theunderstandingofwhichwouldchangeourindividuallivesforeverfor
thebetter?Thatswhatwevebeendiscussingforthepasthour.
Thenthefourfundamentalquestionsoflife:whoamI?WhereamI?WhyamIwhereIam,
andwhatdoIintendtodoaboutthat?
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Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Isuggesttopeoplethateverymorning,everynoonandeverynight,theyaskthemselvesthose
fourfundamentalquestions,whenyouariseinthemorning,whenyoufindyourselfinmidday,
whenyourereadytocloseoutthedaysactivitiesintheevening,toaskyourselfthosefour
fundamentalquestions.WhoamI?WhereamI?WhyamIwhereIam,andwhatdoIintend
todoaboutthat?
When we ask and answer those questions, we give ourselves a framework, a roadmap, a
pathwayIcallitthepathwayofthesoultogetwherewearechoosingtobe.Whenwe
answer those four fundamental questions, we will have answered the three persistent
questionsthatprecededit.
Howisitpossibleforustowantthesamethingandbeunabletogetit?Isitpossibletheres
something we dont fully understand here, the understanding of which would change
everything? Is it possible theres something I dont understand about myself, the
understandingofwhichwouldaltermylifeforthebetterforever?
Thequestionsarecircular.Ifyouanswerone,youanswerthemall,andthatswhatwediscuss
inTheStormBeforetheCalm,andthatswhatweinvitepeopletoexploredeeplyat:
theglobalconversation.com.
Yeah,andIlikethenotionofcarryingImwritingthemdownnowonasmallpieceofpaper
andcarryitinmywalletandjusthavingitoverdinnerconversationsorinthegrocerystoreor
just having one or two of those conversations, just starting a dialogue, starting a discourse.
Thosequestions,thatlevelofdeepselfinquiryistheopportunityforustomakeachangeon
the planet. These are not just questions that have oneword answers. These are questions
thatforceusdeep.Isthattheintention,Neale?
Yes, of course. As you say, any one of those questions can launch an entire evenings
conversation. My hope is that people will get together on a regular basis, once every other
week,twiceamonth,maybemore,withagroupoffour,five,eightortenpeopleandsimply
continuetobatitaround,batitarounduntiltheycomeupwithsomesolidanswersthatthey
canallnotnecessarilyallagreewith,buttheyallheareachotherandcanbeallawareof
theanswersthatarecomingupintheroom,becauseultimatelythosekindofconversations
canleadtoactions.Itsnotjustabouttalkingaboutit.
Yeah.Thesequestionsthemselvesledtotheactionofthiswebsiteandthisdiscourseandthis
book.Didtheynot?
Precisely,andtheideais,ifenoughpeoplegettogetherandaskthosekindsofquestions,what
will happen is that people will turn those conversations into choices and decisions that will
change their ontheground lives. Ultimately it could even ignite what I want to call the
gentlestrevolution.ThatswhatIcallitinthebook,thegentlestrevolution.
Every shift in humanitys experience of itself has been created by a beginning conversation.
Somewhere, sometime, someplace,twopeopleormoresat downandstartedsimply talking
aboutthings,andthentheytalkedsomemore,andtheytalkedsomemoreuntiltheyignited,
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once again, the fire that burns exists within each one of us, the Hanukkah flame that never
goesout.LovethestoryofHanukkah,theflamethatnevergoesout.
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Thatflameexistswithinus,andwebrightenit.Weaddfueltothefire.Soitsignitingafirein
thebelly,asJosephCampbellwouldcallit,andsoonpeoplebegintomoveintoaction.They
say, There must be something we can do to turn this being this into doing this to
fundamentallyshifttheonthegroundrealityintheworld.
Infact,asyousuggest,theywindupwritingbooks,watchingwebsites,givinglectures,creating
all sorts of outreach opportunities, not the least of which are programs, for instance, called
maybeHealingWithTheMasters,daringtoplaceintothespaceofthehumanexperiencenew
ideasthatcouldshiftourglobalreality,collectivelyandindividually,forever.
Andwemakethedifference.
Ifwedontmakethedifference,Idontknowwhodoes.Ifitsnothappeninginthisdayand
time, then its never going to be happening. To use a wonderful phrase from the Jewish
tradition,ifnotnow,when,andifnotyou,who?
Yeah.Irememberafriendsaying,WhoamItoandIsaid,Whoareyounotto?Every
single one of us has that fire thats just been ignited. Its been ignited in other ways, but
theresanewignitionhere.Thesesevenquestionsherecanignitefiresinlotsofpeople.Its
giving you an action item even to go out into the world, start a group, start questioning
yourself.
In fact, Im being called I do a writing practice every morning, where my dear friend and
mentor, Mary A. Hall, created a program where you write, basically, to the Divine, and the
Divineanswersforyou.ItslikelysimilartohowyouhaveyourconversationswiththeDivine.
ImgoingtoaskHimthesequestions.Imgoingtodoasevendayprogram.Imightdoitfora
coupleofweeksandaskthesequestionseverymorningandseewhatshowsup.
Whatawonderfulidea.
Theresanactionitem.Thankyou,Neale.
Yourewelcome.Thanksfortheopportunitytosharewithyoutoday.Iveenjoyedthisvisit
verymuch.
Oh,verymuch.Beforeyougo,Idowanttotalkaboutyourspecialoffer,andthenImgoingto
askyoujustonefinalquestion.Wehaveareallybeautifulspecialoffer.Ifyourelookingfora
deeper conversation about The Storm Before the Calm and the ideas and the content there,
Nealehasabeautifulsetofaudioshescreatedforus.Itsnotavailableanywhereelse.Its
just for the Healing With The Masters audiences. Its going to go really deep into these
materials and answer some of the questions. Its based on some recent conversations and
lecturesNealehasgiven.Itsbeautifulcontentthatwillreallyallowyoutoreallyexplorethis
reallyimportantmaterial.
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Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Thisisfundamentalstuff,reallyfundamentalstuff.AlotoftheConversationwithGodmaterial
iskindofformulatedintothisnewConversationswithHumanityandanewconversationthat
you can have. So its a powerful set of audios that will really change the way that you are
livingyourlife.Thatsmyinterpretation.Wouldyouhaveanythingtoaddtothat,Neale?
Notaword.Idonthaveanythingtoadd.Notatall.
Theresalittlebirdthatsjustshowedupoutsidemywindowthatsagreeing.Itslikeaninch
awayfromme.
Youmeanalittlebirdtoldyou?
Yes, indeed, literally. Thats option one, and option two is a really wonderful program that
Neale and I did together last year. Its called Life Lessons with Neale Donald Walsch. Its a
sevenaudioseries.Itcomeswithfulltranscripts,anditsapowerfulprogramthatNealewent
throughsomereallycooltopics.SomeofthethingsthatNealewastalkingaboutearlierinthe
showthatwouldtakeanentirebookheactuallydiscusseshere,thingslikeparenting.Itsone
of the most profound parenting dialogues Ive ever heard. I actually have shared it with
severalofmyfriendswhohavechildren,whohavejustgoneonandonandonandonabout
howpowerfulthatprogramwasforthem.Itsreallychangedtheirlifeandhowtheyparent.
DissolvingtheIllusionofLack:theresagoodoneforyou.Itsapowerfulprogramthatreally
allows you to understand who you are, what lack is, how to overcome it. Theres also one,
Releasing Old Habits and Patterns and Stories, letting go of those old stories, taking
responsibility,asNealewastalkingabouttonight.DealingWithNegativeEnergyasYouWalk
YourTalkisanothertopic,andthenStayingCenteredWhenLifeGoesWild.Therewasagreat
onethatreallyallowedustofindthatmomentofpeacethatweveallbeensearchingforin
themidstofsomanythingsthatarehappeningtoourlives.
ThenareallybeautifuloneandpowerfulonewasConnectingtheMindandSoul,howtodoit
when you need it. Its a really important aspect of our being as we move forward in this, is
connecting the mind and the heart and the mind and the soul and finding a balance within
that.ThentherewasaspecialQandAthatbroughtforththemostamazingQandAfromthe
audience, that brought forth the most amazing conversation. One was about the Holocaust
and why it happened, and Neales response is astonishing. So thats all part of that special
offer.Yougoto:
specials.healingwiththemasters.com/neale
Thank you, Neale, for that wonderful offer, for providing two products that arent available
anywhereelseatthemomentandareavailableforourHealingWithTheMastersaudience.
Itsafabulousgroupingofproducts.Thankyouforthat.
Well,thankyou,Jennifer.Iappreciateverymuchtheopportunitytococreatewithyouinthat
way.Itsbeenawonderfulchanceformetogetoutsomeveryimportantmessagesthathave
ignitedandfueledmylife,andIappreciateourpartnership.
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Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Jennifer:
Neale:
Me too. So one final thought. Its a big question, but hopefully we can get a short answer,
whichiswhatrolehavewecomeheretoplayasindividuals?
Icangiveyoutheshortestansweryoucouldeverimagine.Howaboutoneword?God.
Imready.Imissedit.Whatwastheword?
God.WehavecomeheretoplayGod,orifyouplease,ifitsoundssofter,tobeDivine,orif
you please, if it sounds softer still, to express and experience, to announce and declare, to
becomeandtofulfillthegrandestideathatweeverheldaboutwhoweare,toclaimandto
embrace and then to demonstrate our true identity. That is what weve come here to
accomplish,toachieve,toexperience,toexpressandtobecome.
Theres nothing else going on, and yet if everyone of us became that, we would change the
world. The world around us would change. Your household would change. Your business
wouldchange.Yourcommunitywouldchange.Yourlifewouldchange.Thelivesofallthose
aroundyouwouldchange,suchthattheywouldneverforgetyourhavingcomehere.
Iwanttojustsayamen,andsoitis.Thankyou,Neale.IalwaysgetalittleemotionalwhenI
have a conversation with you, because I can feel my heart opening. Thank you, thank you,
thankyouforthispowerfulandlovelyconversation.Itsappreciated.
Yourewelcome,Jennifer.Thankyousomuchforinvitingme.Seeyounexttime.
Yeah.Wellseeyounexttime,andthanks,everyone,forbeingpartoftodaysshow.Itseems
wealwayscometothesecallsasindividuals,andintheend,wewindupaunitedcommunity
andunitedinourintention.Weknowwemakethedifference.Wematter.Youallmatter.I
loveyouallsoverymuch.Untilnexttime,everyone,goodnight.Goodnight,Neale.Thank
you.
Goodnight.
[EndofDiscussion]
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NealeDonaldWalsch|FeaturedGuest|May22,2012
InternationallyRecognizedSpiritualMessenger
BestSellingAuthoroftheConversationsWithGodbookseries
NealeDonaldWalsch.com
NealeDonaldWalschisamoderndayspiritualmessengerwhosewordscontinuetotouchtheworldinprofoundways.
Withanearlyinterestinreligionandadeeplyfeltconnectiontospirituality,Nealespentthemajorityofhislifethriving
professionally,yetsearchingforspiritualmeaningbeforebeginninghisnowfamousconversationwithGod.HisWithGod
seriesofbookshasbeentranslatedinto37languages,touchingmillionsoflivesandinspiringimportantchangesintheir
daytodaylives.
InadditiontoauthoringtherenownedWithGodseries,Nealehaspublished16otherworks,aswellasanumberofvideo
and audio programs. Available throughout the world, each of the CwG dialogue books has made The New York Times
Bestsellerlist,ConversationswithGodBook1occupyingthatlistforovertwoandahalfyears.
The With God Series has redefined God and shifted spiritual paradigms around the globe. In order to deal with the
enormous response to his writings, Neale created the Conversations with God Foundation, a nonprofit educational
organizationdedicatedtoinspiringtheworldtohelpitselfmovefromviolencetopeace,fromconfusiontoclarity,and
fromangertolove.
Neale'sworkhastakenhimfromthestepsofMachuPicchuinPerutothestepsoftheShintoshrinesofJapan,fromRed
SquareinMoscowtoSt.PetersSquareinVaticanCitytoTiananmenSquareinChina.Andeverywherehehasgonefrom
South Africa to Norway, Croatia to The Netherlands, the streets of Zurich to the streets of Seoul, Neale has found a
hungeramongthepeopletofindanewwaytolive,atlast,inpeaceandharmony,andhehassoughttobringpeoplea
newunderstandingoflifeandofGodwhichwouldallowthemtoexperiencethat.
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