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to thank all the Brothers on FaceBook who have taught on these two subjec
have given good sources.
to thank especially brother Boris Muhammad for his research and sharing i
brother Dr. Wesley Muhammad for his research and scholarship.
of respect or reverence
Mother Tynnetta also asked the question whether the first God was alive,
"This raises another questionDid the first God ever die? The answer then is that
the Person of God never dies, but is ever evolving through the law of creation i
nto constant material existence. There is decay in the physical, but there is re
newal and continuity.
She tells us that the person of God never dies, and she is in agreement with the
Quran:
Surah 55:26-27
26:Everyone on it must pass away.
27:And there will endure for ever the person of your Lord, the Lord of glory and
honor.
THMLF has taught us very well on this subject in studyguide19,
"Master Fard Muhammad is a man born of a woman; a man who studies and prays. He
is a man with Divine Wisdom, Divine Power and Divine Guidance. Every man is born
of a woman, but the Spirit of Allah (God) is Everlasting to Everlasting, and th
e flesh and blood man who receives the Spirit is the Chosen One--The Anointed On
e. Master Fard Muhammad, The Great Mahdi, came to North America by Himself. He i
s a Master with the Knowledge and Understanding of the root of this world. His K
nowledge enables Him to uproot this world and begin a new one. His complete unde
rstanding of our illness and the illness of the entire human family enabled Him
to design a medicine to heal us.
Master Fard Muhammad is the Conduit through Whom the Message from the Lord of th
e worlds came to us. He is Alive and has Absolute Power to bring His Will into f
ruition because His Will is in complete harmony with the Eternal Will of the Ori
ginator of the Heavens and the Earth. If Master Fard Muhammad is so Powerful, wh
y does He pray? He would not have such Power if He did not pray. Through His pra
yer, He draws from the Power and Creation of The Originator at the point of its
origination."
THMLF is in agreement with the Quran and Mother Tynnetta Muhammad in that no Per
son lives forever physically, but the mind, spirit or wisdom can live and contin
ue in another human being. MFM is the greatest God to ever live and has the perf
ected way of thinking to fix the imperfections that has been in us and the unive
rse ever since the First God created his-self and the universe. THMLF teaches th
at MFM would not be as powerful as he is if he did not pray.
Now many people have made a mistake in their understanding thinking MFM is prayi
ng to the Originator for guidance and of answering of prayers. This according to
my studies of the teachings of THEM and THMLF is incorrect, although this misun
derstanding is very near correct it is still according to truth and mathematics
is wrong. Now MFM did not start out as Supreme as God he had to study and evolve
just as we all do, but after he surpassed the 24 Scientist he was the Supreme a
nd as THEM said he is MAHDI, the Self-Independent and Self-Guided God.
THMLF said, "Through His prayer, He draws from the Power and Creation of The Ori
ginator at the point of its origination." Many followers of the THMLF do not stud
y or read THEM words in depth,and do not understand their Mathematical Theology.
If we read this statement from THMLF correctly we interpret MFM's prayer as drawi
ngthe Power and Creation of The Originator at the point of its origination,this st
atement did not say MFM draws from the ORIGINATOR, whom according to all sources
including THEM is DEAD. We can not get answers from a dead man or God. MFM draw
s from the POWER of the first God because the first god put power in all of us,
we are the creators and the originators of the universe. The power is in our own
being. MFM also draws from the CREATION of the first God, meaning the hidden wi
sdom of everything he created at the root(purpose,function)of its creation.
"They (white race) are not hostile toward me because I am a Muslim and because I
am teaching the true religion, Islam, to my people and the worship of the true
and living God who is not a spook, but is flesh and blood (Allah)." ~ THEM
"The Mother Plane and her work is a display of the power of the mightiest God, M
aster Fard Muhammad, to Whom praises are due forever. Master Fard Muhammad, to W
hom praises are due forever, is the Wisest and Best Knower; He is the Mightiest
of Them All." ~ THEM
"He, Master Fard Muhammad, God in Person, will create a new heaven and a new ear
th, a new Islam and new government and people." ~ THEM
"The Wisdom, Idea, and Way of Thinking of Master Fard Muhammad, to Whom Praises
are due forever, is Superior to any way of believing today. There is no one to h
inder His Image or Thought for that which has not yet been conceived in our brai
n. ~ THEM"
"I m not asking you to believe and worship me, believe and worship Him whom I te
ach to you."~ THEM
He is Superior to all other gods who Existed before Him. The power of heaven and
earth will submit to His Power and a change is made easy and inevitable; for th
e heavens and the earth are controlled by the God of the Black Man, Allah, Who C
ame in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad, to Whom Praises are due forever. ~ TH
EM
You will have to look to your own God, Master Fard Muhammad, and your religion,
which is peace, Islam. ~ THEM
It should be very clear that THEM represent THE God MFM, who is the most powerfu
l God or Allah ever to live.
Question #1 should be clear by now, so Question #2 should be half way clear to y
ou by now if not 100%.
There are still those in the ranks holding on to spookism from their Christian d
ays, so I will give you some more words from THEM on worshiping a MAN and not a
spook in a man, or a spook jumping body to body, or a God who lives forever. Onl
y the God s essence or his person, and wisdom live on, but it requires a body to
be a God of reality.
Words on the living God:
"This nonsense is to be broken up in these days by the presence of the real God
in person. I am with Allah to convince the world that He is God in the person of
Master Fard Muhammad and that idols are things, not persons. According to the B
ible and Holy Quran, god is referred to by the pronoun "He," never as "She" - alw
There is nothing that we can give credit to but Man for doing something for or ag
ainst us. Our enemies are men and our friends are men. Our guidance and directio
n come from men not from some spook. This is reality. If I ask you to produce yo
ur God on the faith of your belief, you cant." ~ THEM
All the Gods who ever were for us, were flesh, bone, and blood. Thats what They w
ere. They never was a formless God, and there never will be. ~ THEM
WHERE IS YOUR GOD THAT IS OTHER THAN MAN? It is the power of ALLAH to be here and
there when He wills. If you have something other than Man as God, why don t you
prove to Me that you have something other than Man? Tell me. Where did you get
the clothes that you have on? Did you wait for some formless Being to drop it ou
t of the sky or out of his store someplace? Or did you go out and work for it an
d then go to the store and buy it? These things show you and me how the devil Ca
ucasian duped you 1,000 percent. If you would pray until the roof falls in you c
ould not produce Me a God other than Man. It s hard to teach a person anything w
hen he never cared anything about the Scriptures but would like to argue about i
t. ~ THEM
We cannot see spirits, and spirits cannot guide us in the way of human beings. Th
ey are not human beings themselves and so how can they have any interest in the
affairs of a human being. The spirit so often misunderstood and misquoted or pre
ached, means in many instances, the energy of a person, or the life of a person.
It doesn t mean some individual spirit standing out here having the authority t
o tell us what to do and what we shouldn t do, because a spirit or energy always
is produced by matter.
We cannot find spirit or energy unless we find the base of it, it has a base and
that base is always something of real that we can see and understand, and theref
ore we cannot say that the God would come in such form or spirit when we gives t
hat God a masculine name and a pronoun; the pronoun of He and Him or Thee God ca
"I think I have made it clear to you that if we look forward to seeing or meetin
g God, He must be in the form of a man." ~ THEM
Allah is all of us. But we have a Supreme One that we can throw this name "Holy"
upon. He is Allah, The One over all of us; The Most Supreme One, the Wisest One
, the Mightiest One; The One that Sees and Hears that which we can t see and hea
r. That Is He. He Is rooted in all of us. Every righteous person is a god. We ar
e all God. When we say "Allah" we mean every righteous person. Allah teaches me
that He is a man -- not something that is other than man. The Holy Qur an refers
to Him in such pronouns as "He" and as "We" and as "Us."
There are so many of us who are ready to argue and dispute about the God. If you
don t believe that he is a man, then bring me the one that you represent. You sa
y, I don t believe in God being a man." What do you believe in? Show me what you
believe in. I can show you my God. Show me yours. ~ THEM
You will have to be punished, divinely beaten and destroyed until you accept Mas
ter Fard Muhammad, to Whom praises are Due forever, as your God and Saviour, as
I and thousands of my followers are doing." ~ THEM
"When we say "Allah" that Name means God and covers all
Muslims. All Muslims are Allahs, but we call the Supreme Allah the
Supreme Being. And He has a Name of His Own. This Name is
"Fard Muhammad."
"Fard" is a Name meaning an independent One and One Who is
not on the level with the average Gods (Allahs). It is a Name
independent to itself which actually means One whom we must
obey, or else He destroys us. This honorable, Majestic, Person
comes in the last day. The reason why we call Him the Supreme
Being is because He is Supreme over all beings and or is wiser than
all. The Holy Quran teaches; He is wiser than them, meaning all the
Gods before and all who are now present.
Now, the Just and Righteous One is on the scene to take His place to rule the pe
ople in righteousness.
Remember, Allah means Gods. ~ THEM
The Christians Bible bears me witness that God is a man of flesh and
blood. The Bible predicts God coming as a man (Luke 21:27;
Matthew 24:30; Revelation 1:7, 14:15). There is much proof in the
Bible to support my claim that God is a man. That is, if you want
proof. ~ THEM
This should be perfectly clear who you should worship and pray to, but some will
say THMLF said we don t worship the flesh of any man, and he would be right, FL
ESH alone is not God nor is Spirit alone, Mind alone. MAN is god alone, we can n
ot separate Man into his many parts we must except him in whole.
A few more words to drive the point home, yet this is in noway covering all of T
HEM wisdom.
The Creator of this Heaven and Earth, in which we live, he died. We dont meet Him.
We have not met him, no sir. Want to teach you these things that you have misun
derstood. There is no such thing as a human or any flesh or life, whatever it ma
y be, dies and come back, it doesnt come back. ~ THEM
There is no such thing as formless spirits flying around in space, unless you wan
t to declare such as the righteous mind.
When we say Allah, many times we are referring to the Supreme One among us, Allah
. His name is Allah, the Supreme Being. We call Him Supreme, because no other be
ing is His equal. We dont mean that Hes a spook. There is no such thing as a God h
aving joy in us, who is something other than what we are, or some kind of formle
ss something, no. All the Gods who ever were for us, were flesh, bone, and blood
. Thats what they were. There never was a formless God, and there never will be.
God could not get joy out of us if He was not one of us. Hes just Supreme in wisd
om and has power to will a thing and it comes to pass. ~ THEM
"We are going after the tricknology taught to the world by our enemy, the devil,
and
bringing to you reality. Without reality, we cant change a world; wherein, God an
d
all of His prophets are believed to be of immaterial things, instead of material
things.
You cannot do that. Weve got to do away with such teaching and beliefs and get th
e
people off the heavens and the earth, and into looking forward to reality, not s
pooky
ideas." ~ THEM
Well, we all know that there was a God in the beginning that created all these th
ings and do know that He does not exist today. But we know again that from that
God the Person of God continued until today in His people, and today a Supreme O
ne (God) has appeared among us with the same infinite Wisdom to bring about a co
mplete change. ~THEM
"First, we all are ALLAH, but MASTER W.D. FARD MUHAMMAD is SUPREME over all of u
s, is referred to all times as the SUPREME BEING. He is SUPREME over all other b
eings, because HIS WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, UNDERSTANDING and POWER to destroy and rep
roduce and create another Universe or make a people, makes HIM GREATER than all,
and is WISER than those before HIM even HE who created this Universe, because t
his ONE is able to reproduce or destroy it, or bring in one better, so says the
Holy Quran.
The Present God s (Master Fard Muhammad s) Wisdom is infinite. No Scientist can s
ee an end to This Man s Wisdom coming in the future. That is why the Bible and t
he Holy Qur an refer to Him as The Greatest and Wisest of Them all and say that
He will set up a Kingdom (Civilization) that will Live Forever.
There is no God LIVING who was here in the Creation of the Universe, but They pro
duced Gods from Them and Their Wisdom lives in us. ~THEM
We are not put here to live forever. God Himself, who made the Heavens and the Ea
rth, didn t live forever. He too is gone. We all come here and we all die away.
No God or prophet live forever.
"God is here in Person, so stop looking to a dead Jesus for help and pray to HIM
whom Jesus prophesied that would come after him. My people, pray to the One who
is ALIVE and not spook!"
~ THEM
Pray to a living God and come follow me, and He will hear your prayers. ~THEM
...Pray to the God that I represent to you. Don t pray to a God that I didn t rep
resent because you certainly wont get an answer. There s no other God has any pow
er to help you but the one that I represent. ~ THEM
Let us give praise and thanks to Master Fard Muhammad, the Almighty God in Person
. Forever we shall praise Him. We shall pray to Him for what we want and He shal
l give it to us.
Whatever I ask Him in prayer, He has granted it. I fear not that He will not ans
wer a believers prayer. I know He will, for I have tried Him in answering prayer
s and He has always answered me. I never ask for anything that is vain, vanity.
I never have asked for that which I didn t need or did not want to see come to p
ass of good. I didn t never ask for nothing to tempt Him.
No, Hes not to be tempted. Hes Self-independent and have no need for nothing. He d
ont need to prove Himself by our tempting Him. Hes Self-sufficient, Self-independe
nt."~ THEM
the name of His Servant, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. THAT WAS HIS FIRST SUCH
PRAYER IN 30 MONTHS."
Inconclusion much more could be said, but this should besufficient.
Question #1-- Answer, yes MFM prays as a INDEPENDENT God in honor of the First G
od.
Question #2-- Answer, Yes we pray to MFM.
Thank you forreading, Peace to the Gods.