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This video is part of a series on the parts of a PID Loop and how you can adjust
them to tune the PID Loop for more effective control over various automation de
vices, such as a Humidifier Steam Valve.
In Part 2 we start seeing the automatic adjustments of the PID Loop to assist in
making the input equal the set point. These adjustments are slow and gradual an
d help prevent a back and forth or overshoot condition.
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Faithful Noel 4 months ago
thanks a lot, boss. very good explanation on PID control.
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The Controls Freak 3 years ago in reply to marty maness
In this context 'tuning' is the adjusting and setting of the proper values of a
PID loop to be the most efficient at controlling the resulting output signal an
d device.
Once you have tuned a PID loop to work properly, you should not need to change i
t unless the input signals react differently or a new result is required and the
refore you would need to 're-tune' the PID loop to better react to the new chang
es.

The Controls Freak 3 years ago


Hey awesome! Thanks for the comment... I need to wrap up that PID Loop Series w
ith the introduction of the Derivative portion. I got side tracked on some other
videos.
Lynn Kelly 1 year ago
very good instruction! thanks for getting the info out to the ones who need it.
MrHart475 3 years ago
so tremendous!!! nice and clear explanation....more power....
BMPWR 2 years ago
Great video! Thank you!
manholewisdom 2 years ago
Could you do a series on pid controller use in an espresso machine application.
Home espresso machines are popular but the controls leave a lot of guesswork as
to the actual temperature and that is a critical part in the production of an e
spresso shot. People have been upgrading their home machine temp. controls using
pid circuits. I bet you could do an awesome & informative explanation how to ap
ply pid to temp control.
guyvxt 2 years ago
Thank you for the explanation
Lynn Kelly 1 year ago
very good instruction!
pomonabill220 2 years ago
Thanks for the "real life" demo and explanation of PID tuning and the effects o
f the parameters.
arsenal245 3 years ago
Great explanation, thanks.
Perry Condoluci 2 years ago
Really Nice job!
These videos are very much appreciated. There are not many PID tutorials that ar
e this clear and understandable (for lack of a better term)
marty maness 3 years ago
So what is tuning? Is it maintenance?
PID Loop Tuning Explained - Part 1 - Proportional and Integral
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This video is part of a series on the parts of a PID Loop and how you can adjust
them to tune the PID Loop for more effective control over a Building Automation
Controls device, such as a Humidifier Steam Valve.

Let me know what you think about this first video. I am making more and would lo
ve to hear what you think. I read every one of your comments.
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Janet M 1 year ago
Thank you so much for this explanation!
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Shai Sebton 1 year ago
Hey...Nice explanation!
What is the name of this HMI Scada??
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Mike Molesky 1 year ago
Very nice video but I think you are going to confuse alot of people. The bias
is going to confuse your demonstration. Also, for many people it is easier to t
hink of proportional band as gain.
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The Controls Freak 2 years ago in reply to g412bb
Well unfortunately you must not be aware that not all PID loops for all control
s systems are created equal. The mathmatical calculations behind the scenes do d
iffer and incorporate different way to accomplish the same thing.
Now worries though... This ICU in one of the world's most famous burn units work
s just fine.
Reinaldo Mendez 2 years ago
2 words... AWE SOME!! hahaha
g412bb 2 years ago
A normal PID for this application would start out at 0 and not at 50. What you
are trying to explain here is a PID with an offset of already 50%. Hope this was
not a real icu.
BMPWR 2 years ago
Nice explanation!
Understanding PID in 4 minutes
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Vineeth Muthanna 5 months ago
Understood Nothing
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Seif Mostafa 1 month ago
+Vineeth Muthanna I think there are some functions while the process over signa
l to remove the Errors and it outputs by the right way !!
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Lincoln Meter 1 month ago
I do understand your video, but I also understand controls. I think that if yo
u are trying to explain PID to a person who doesn't understand it, you will have
to simplify a bit more than this, while explaining in more generic terms. For
instance:
The actual output of a controller is the sum of three outputs, a manual output,
proportional band output, and the derivative output. We can use a single one of
these, or all three. Let's look at just Manual Output.
Manual Output:
Example: We want to do 50 MPH in a car. We push the gas until we reach 50. Let'
s say we lock our foot in place and reach a hill. We slow down as we climb. We
need to "Reset" the output manually, so we push the pedal down further. The op
posite happens on the back side of the hill, we coast faster than we'd like. We
"Reset" the output by backing off on the pedal. Obviously, manual control leav
es something to be desired. Let's try Proportional.
P Proportional band, is the inverse of gain: Gain is easier to understand so we'
ll use that for the moment as they both do the same thing.
Rule 1: The Proportional Band (Gain) Cannot Change the Manual Output!
BUT!!: It can add or subtract from it.
Example. we set the gain (not proportional, that's an inverse) to 1. Now we man
ually get to 50 and push cruise control. We find that our gas pedal (for this e
xample) magically is set at 50%. Our setpoint is 50 mph, as is our speed at 50,
Now we hit the hill, drop to 40, and our control kicks in. The calculation is
simply Gain x Setpoint - Process = PB Output ADDED to the Manual Output.
Remember the rule: Proportional band cannot change the output, just add or subtr
act. Therefore our new gas pedal setting is (1x50-40)+50 (remember our manual ga
s pedal output?) for a new gas pedal setting of 60%. If we fall to 30 MPH, (1x5
0-30)+50 = 70%.
Let's set the gain to 2. At 40 MPH (2x50-40)+50 = 70%. At 30 MPH (2x50-30)+50
= 90%. Much more reactive.

But what about that Proportional Band stuff? Well, Proportional is just the inv
erse of gain, so 100/porportional band = gain, or 100/gain = proportional band.
This means that the resulting proportional band for a gain of 1 is 100. The re
sulting proportional band for a gain of 2 is 50. This goes back to the definiti
on of proportional band as the bandwidth of error that will cause an output swin
g of 100%.
With that definition, a Porportional band of 100, and a manual output of 50%, it
looks like this: If you fall to zero MPH, your gas pedal will be 100%. If you
coast to 100 MPH, your gas pedal will be at zero. It takes a 100% bandwidth of
your range (a speedometer that is ranged from 0 to 100 MPH) in order to swing yo
ur gas pedal 100%.
Try the calculation above, but substitute the inverse calc: ((100 / PB) x Setpoi
nt - Process) + Manual Output. At zero miles per hour, we have (100 / 100) x (5
0 - 0) = 50%. Add that to the 50% manual output for 100% Same for 100 MPH. Put
it in a spreadsheet.
With a proportional band of 50 (gain of 2) we find that if we fall to 25 MPH, ou
r gas pedal will be at 100%, if we coast to 75 MPH, our gas pedal will be at 0%.
Thus, it takes a 50% bandwidth (25 MPH to 75 MPH) to swing your gas from 0 to
100%. Classic definition of proportional band.
Which one should you use? That's determined by the manufacturer of the controll
er that you are using. Classic single loop controls by ABB (used to be Taylor)
use Proportional Band. Honeywell UDC6000's are gain. And I've never seen a PLC
that isn't a gain controller when you drop a PID loop in the ladder. The only
thing to remember when you are working with a controller, is you have to find th
e range of the process input in order to find out what the PB output will be. I
once worked on a PLC with an RTD input that had a range of -465F to 1,900F, or a
total range of 2,365F. It was a gain controller, and my gain numbers were in the
thousands. (I didn't add that part of the calculation in above as it just start
s to get obtuse, but suffice it to say that you have to account for it.)
This has gotten long, but here's a couple more rules to ponder:
Integral or "Reset" (remember above?) is the only term that can actually change
the manual output.
Derivative, or Rate, is the same as proportional band, it can only add or subtra
ct.
And the rules for the terms:
Proportional Band or Gain cannot fix a problem, it can only stop it from getting
worse.
Integral or Reset will fix the problem.
Derivative or Rate will try to predict the future.
Dave
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abdelhamed ahmed 5 days ago
great job thanks alot
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Great !! thanks alot !
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David Rathbone 4 weeks ago
No good to know one!
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Patrick Floris 1 month ago
excellent video, thanks for sharing
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aeronutzfpv 4 months ago
This is a lesson in DSP,
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Darius A. Vesa 3 months ago
wow , best ... I wish u were my teacher :)
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Csr Racer 4 months ago
thanks, truly helpful.
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Martina Aylmer 5 months ago
No real in process examples. Just theory.
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Marc Robitaille 6 months ago
That made me understand it... Thanks for the time to publish this
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Shahad Thari 7 months ago
There is no voice
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qdelta 8 months ago
Excellent introduction for complete newbies. Thanks a lot!
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Rudolfs Rumba 6 months ago
Thank you, but your graphs are not correct.
1st graph is alright.
2nd graph you can see that lines fluctuate around each other. The red one fluctu
ates around Setpoint, the green and blue is trying to "catch up" with it. You ma
y clearly see that blue line has an inflexion point where the red line changes i
t's velocity.
They should have fluctuate around setpoint.

The same mistake for the 4th graph.


But I got the idea of PID, thanks. If it wasn't for the small inaccuracies, it w
ould have been prefect.
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Eric Cappa 10 months ago
thanks for sharing.
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Rachid Badache 8 months ago
thanks a lot
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Harinadha Raju 11 months ago
can you design pid temp controller?
I.P. Singh 9 months ago
that's good for gain knowledge about PID
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Lecture - 13 PID Control Tuning
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Proportional amplifiers and valves are easy to troubleshoot. If one suspects the
valve is bad, one may apply full voltage (6 V dc) or variable voltage (0-6 V dc
) from a power supply and bypass the amplifier all together. The only problem th
at this presents is that it may cause the valve to open 100%, which may cause un
wanted machine motion. One could turn the source of hydraulic pressure off prior
to this test to render the machine safe. If the valve operates satisfactorily w
hen it's connected directly to a power supply, it's good. If it won't operate wh
en it's connected directly to a power supply, it won't work correctly when it's
connected to the valve amplifier.
One can troubleshoot the amplifier by testing the power supply terminals to dete
rmine that the correct amount and polarity of voltage is applied. If the correct
supply voltage is applied, one can provide an input voltage from 0-9 volts dc.
The output signal to the valve should adjust proportionally from 0-800 mA and 06 volts. Some amplifiers may not operate if the load (valve) connected to it has
an open circuit in the wiring or the solenoid coil. One can determine the condi
tion of the wiring and the coil by taking a current measurement. The valve shoul
d draw a small amount of current (1-5 mA) even when the valve is at rest. If vol
tage is present at the output terminals of the valve amplifier and no current is
present, one should suspect an open in the wiring or the solenoid coil. If volt
age is present at the valve amplifier terminals and proportional valve terminals
and no current is present, one should suspect an open solenoid coil.
Exercise
One is instructed to troubleshoot a proportional valve and amplifier that are us
ed to control the injection pressure on a plastic-injection molding machine. The
problem has been listed on the request-for-service tag as: "Valve won't open to
build injection pressure." Identify the test points, the amount of voltage, and
the type of signal that one would expect to see at each point. Use the amplifie
r diagram shown in Ill. 1 to help determine a solution.

Solution
Since the service tag states that the valve will not open to build injection pre
ssure, one should suspect that it's not operating at all. One can start at the i
nput or the output section of the amplifier to solve this problem. For this exam
ple we will make our first test across terminals 22ac and 20ac where the valve i
s connected on the lower right side of the diagram. Place a voltmeter across the
se terminals, or one can place an ammeter in series with either of the terminals
. One will need the machine operator to cycle the machine to the step where inje
ction pressure is built up and set the pressure limit to full pressure. Keep the
machine on this step while one tests for the voltage or current. The voltage sh
ould be approximately 10 volts since the control is set for full voltage. If one
is measuring current, the amount of current should be 800 mA. If the voltage is
10 volts and the valve doesn't move, the electrical system is operating correct
ly and the problem will be in the hydraulic side of the system. If the voltage i
s less than 1 volt, the problem will be in the amplifier or the signal being sen
t to the amplifier from the controller.
If the output voltage from the amplifier is too low, the next check will be at t
he supply voltage terminals (24ac and 18ac) on the bottom left side of the diagr
am. The voltage at this point should be 24 V dc with the positive voltage at ter

minal 24ac. If one doesn't have supply voltage or it's less than 24 volts, you m
ust fix the power supply.
If the supply voltage is 24 volts and the polarity is correct, one may test the
voltage as it passes through the amplifier. The first voltage test inside the am
plifier can be made across terminals 10ac and 14ac where 9 V dc is available. If
one doesn't have voltage at this point, one would change the amplifier card. If
voltage is present, proceed to the intermediate test points in the amplifier.
The next place one can test for voltage is at the signal voltage test points at
the top right side of amplifier XI. The signal should be approximately 6 V dc at
this point. If one doesn't have voltage at this point, one should check the ram
p-up switch and set it to no ramp for this test. This will ensure that the maxim
um amount of voltage is provided to the output of the amplifier. If one doesn't
have voltage even after the ramp-up switch is turned off, one has a problem in t
he amplifier and it must be changed.

Notice that troubleshooting an amplifier requires testing at several terminal po


ints as the voltage moves through the amplifier. One may also remove and replace
the amplifier or try a separate power supply of 0-10 volts and test the valve d
irectly without an amplifier. If the valve operates with the external power supp
ly but it won't work correctly with the amplifier, one can replace the amplifier
. If the valve won't work with the external power supply, one can focus thier te
sts on the amplifier and hydraulic system.
Note!
Some amplifiers or controllers have a feature that provides a minimum electrical
signal when the controller is requesting full pressure. This is called a revers
e-acting valve feature. If the reverse-acting valve feature is selected, the amp
lifier will provide a minimum electrical signal when the controller requests max
imum pressure, and it will produce a maximum electrical signal when the controll
er requests minimum pressure.
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