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DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MS. PARKER:
Q. Would you state your name is spell your last name
for the record, please.
A. Walter Robert Schaefer, S C H A E F E R.
Q. Where are you employed?
A. With the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Kansas
City division.
Q. And in the course of your employment, did you
conduct an investigation of allegations that Officers Jay
Bileck and Mickey Rantz of the Lawrence Police Department
were impersonating FBI officers?
A. Yes.
Q. And how did your involvement begin?
A. I was contacted by you about some allegations that
Lawrence PD were acting as FBI agents and the allegations
you relayed to me were made by Sarah Swain(ph).
Q. And did I tell you how to investigate?
A. No.
Q. Did I tell you what the conclusion of your
investigation should be?
A. No.
Q. What did I ask you to do?
You asked me to investigate the allegations.
Q. And report back?
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A. We went over to Sarah Swain's office, she wasn't
there, we waited until she showed up. When she showed up,
we went inside, identified ourselves, told her I was there
regarding the allegations that she had made in an e-mail,
I believe, to you that she had a list of several people
who had been interviewed by the Lawrence PD who claimed
that the Lawrence PD was FBI agents. I asked her for that
list. She said she didn't have a list, that her
Q. (By Ms. Parker) All right. Now you can read it.
A. This is from Sarah Swain. "I have been contacted by
numerous individuals who have reported to me that they
have been accosted by, quote, federal agents and held
against their will and/or interrogated against their will.
I have been in contact with numerous community
organizations. I would appreciate any help you could give
me getting to the bottom of this."
Q. (By Ms. Parker) And that was the initial complaint
that you tried to follow up on?
A. Yes.
Q. But you were never able to obtain the necessary
information from Ms. Swain to support the allegations that
she or Ms. Helm were making?
A. No.
Q. Now, have you been following from time to time or
further.
THE COURT: Cross-examination.
CROSS-EXAMINATION
BY MR. DUMA:
Q. My understanding is that entire content of this
investigation done at the request of Sarah Swain who is a
licensed attorney in the state of Kansas, is that a
correct statement?
A. She's the one who made the initial allegations to
Marietta who then relayed them to me.
Q. And Ms. Swain is a licensed attorney, to your
knowledge?
A. Yes.
Q. And as such is an officer of the court?
A. Yes.
Q. All right. So when she makes those sorts of
allegations, that's something that typically that your
office would take fairly seriously because as an officer