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Leading business newspaper Economic Times had two

young CEOs Radha Kapoor of Pressto, Indias first
premium drycleaner service, and Ashni Biyani of
Future Ideas interact with Sadhguru. The result was
a stimulating conversation that touched on golf,
beards, inspiration and, of course, the youth. The
article was published on 4th April, 2014. Here is the
piece.

Radha: When I started playing golf, I was told its a

mans game. And a boring game at that. I feel its a
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mind game and helps me focus. Y ou too play golf.

What are its benefits?
Sadhguru: We are talking about golf? If you are
playing any other game, the ball is coming at you
from different angles and velocity. In golf, you got to
hit a sitting ball. Y ou may even beat a world
champion at one or two holes, which you cant do in
any other game. If you were to play soccer with Lionel
Messi, you wouldnt even touch the ball.
Golf is basically about geometry and your ability to
gauge how things are, the terrain, the distances and
exerting the right amount of swing and force.
Radha: How can young people in positions of power
be taken seriously and be respected by the old guard?
Sadhguru: I dont think this is an issue. If somebody
exhibits a certain level of confidence and success,
nobody is looking at your age.
Ashni: Y ou inspire us. What inspires you?
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Sadhguru: Nothing inspires me. I am bored with

everything but I do it with absolute intensity. There
are other things I could do for which very few people
are ready.
Ashni: Like what?
Sadhguru: That cannot be explained in words. Like I
could do poof (claps his hands) and take you into a
very different dimension of experience. But not many
people are prepared for that level of perception. Almost
90 percent of my life is dumbed-down activity.
Ashni: All gurus adorn a beard. Is that a branding
thought?
Sadhguru: I thought you were old enough to know
this. A beard doesnt grow only on gurus, it grows on
all men. The advantage of this look is that for ten
years if I dont have a mirror, I still look the same.
Nature did not intend anything without purpose. I
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believe in geometry and design so the design is like this

(pointing to his flowing beard). I use it to the fullest
benefit. But you please dont try it.
Radha: Today we are dealing with a lot of pressure
and are living to please others rather than being true
to ourselves.
Sadhguru: Today, if you dont please others, they will
make your life miserable. If you have to live in a
society, you have to please a few people. When you are
talking pressure, its the how of life. If while running a
design school, living as a business person is becoming
a pressure, dont do it. The pressure is not because of
the job or position but because you do not know how
to conduct your body, mind and emotions.
Ashni: In modern times, business is governed by facts
and data. What is the role of intuition or belief?
Sadhguru: Belief in what?
Ashni: Belief in the vision of the founder belief in
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values?
Sadhguru: The problem with the founders is that
they will anyway impose their vision on you. So
whether you believe or dont, doesnt matter.
Why should you believe in values? If you recognise
that a certain value will produce results, you do it that
way. If you recognise that a certain other value will
not work for you, drop it. Why should you believe in
it? Belief means, something that you do not know.
Y ou want to assume and bring a certainty to
something that you do not know. That means you are
concretising your ignorance. There is no need to
believe anything. What I know I know. What I do not
know, I do not know. Whats the problem?
Radha: If you were given a choice to be the brand
ambassador of a brand, which one would you pick and
why (besides Isha Foundation)?
Sadhguru: Wow! Y ou want to offer this to me?
Which brand should I choose? I never thought of that.
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I dont think they would choose me as a model for

anything. Imagine, Gurus choice Coca Cola! I dont
think it would work.
Ashni: I understand you listen to a lot of classical
music, so do I do you believe it has healing powers?
Sadhguru: First, lets understand what music is. It is
a certain arrangement of sounds. If arranged in a
certain way, it becomes noise, if arranged in a
different way, it becomes music. Classical music
involves mathematics, a mathematical structure is
being built. Without any words music can bring tears,
joy and set moods. Will people get healthy and well
with it? Definitely.
Radha: India has a rich culture and tradition. Todays
youth is westernised and not patriotic enough. How
can we create more awareness in our youth?
Sadhguru: I dont think its about patriotism or
nationalistic emotions. Its not about being against
something imported. Almost all cultures largely were
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built with the intention of survival and material wellbeing. This culture was designed consciously for the
inner well-being.
Because here we understood that by arranging
material things around you, only comfort and
convenience will happen, wellbeing will never happen.
All the affluent cultures are displaying this. A large
section of people are on the verge of madness. Every
day if they dont pop a pill they will go off.
Above all when it comes to clothing, in terms of
textile, no nation, no culture ever, anywhere in the
world has produced the variety of textiles that India
has produced.
Ashni: What according to you is the biggest strength
of India today?
Sadhguru: The most fundamental strength of India
is that we are a land of seekers. Seekers of truth and
liberation. Not a land of believers. We are a Godless
nation. For millennia we have been told, your life is
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your karma, it is your making. This is the

fundamental strength. We have to bring this back,
that we are a land of seekers. We dont believe in
something that is just told to us. It doesnt matter.
Krishna said it, Ram said it, Buddha said it, it doesnt
matter.
Right now, in a very drastic way, seeking has come
down in the country. Because of which if the Western
nations open up their visa procedures today, 80 per
cent of Indians will swim across the nations and go
away. In other words you are holding over 800
million people within the borders of your nation
forcefully. That is a prison, not a nation. Only a
fundamental spiritual thread keeps us loosely tied
together as a nation. It is in the hands of young people
like you to strengthen that. And 20 per cent of your
wardrobe must turn Indian.

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Jaya

4 months ago

And 20 per cent of your wardrobe must turn Indian. shambho, i bow down

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young India...Lets be proud of everything Indian..Like Sadguru says We can't move this nation without inculcating
sense of pride..Right now unless it is a cricket match it is rare to see..Lets be proud of our rich heritage..Lets be
proud of our tolerant community..Lets be proud of our music and dance..Lets be proud of the fact that it is this natio
who proclaimed " like many rivers who finally merges with the sea, seekers however different
finally reaches the internal Truth

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