Professional Documents
Culture Documents
A
Media
Representation
of
African
Immigrants
in
Ireland
and
its
effects
towards
Integration
Author
Henry
Kasozi
Supervisor
Glenn
Doyle
Table
of
Contents
1.
ABSTRACT
3. LITERATURE REVIEW
4. METHODOLOGY
8
8
8
5. INTERVIEWS ANALYSIS
10
6. DATA COLLECTION
14
7. DISCOURSE ANALYSIS
15
26
29
9. CONCLUSION
32
10. REFERENCES
34
11. BIBLIOGRAPHY
35
APPENDIX 1
36
APPENDIX 2
40
1.
Abstract
This
research
is
based
on
the
published
primary
source
of
the
Irish
print
media
from
the
online
archives
representing
African
immigrants
in
Ireland.
The
study
seeks
to
find
out
whether
the
Media
Representations
of
African
Immigrants
to
Ireland
had
any
effects
towards
their
integration
into
the
Irish
society.
The
research
has
been
conducted
using
a
media
analysis
of
the
Irish
print
media
on
representation
and
a
use
of
qualitative
methods
through
interviews.
Results
have
shown
that
there
was
bias
in
the
representing
of
the
Africans
in
the
Irish
newspapers
that
shaped
peoples
perceptions
of
these
new
comers
however;
its
the
government
policy
of
housing
refugees
in
direct
provision
(hostels)
for
vast
periods
of
time
thats
proving
to
be
an
obstacle
towards
integration.
As the great migration story began to unfold in Ireland from the mid
1990s onwards, there was a certain expectation that migrants would be
treated as guests of the nation given Irelands long history under the
rule of colonization and the negative racist treatment of Irish migrants
in various parts of the globe (Fanning and Munck, 2011, p. 12)
The above extract from the book Globalization, Migration, and social
transformation: Ireland in Europe and the world (2012). This book looks at the
immigration in Ireland a reason that has prompted me to write this dissertation
This research study will examine how Irish print media represented African
immigrants who started to arrive in Ireland in large numbers during the peak of the
Celtic tiger, either for work or as asylum seekers. The largest numbers mainly from
Nigeria, as listed on focus-migration.hwwi.de carried out during the 2011 census.
Irish print media represented these new immigrants through the use of strong
stereotypical and inflammatory language.
Six asylum seekers have Hepatitis B
Limerick leader, 26.08.2000, page 1
It is relevant to research about this topic because despite previous research on the
subject matter about Representations of African Immigrants for example professor
Bryan Fanning and Professor Ronald Munk in their book Globalization, Migration,
and social transformation: Ireland in Europe and the world (2012). And Lentin, R. and
Moreo in the book, Migrant activism and integration from below in Ireland (2012).
No further research has been carried out, to try and find out whether these negative
media representations had any effects towards their integration into the Irish society.
This research is going to analyze the newspapers that where printed in Ireland from
the time of the influx in 1996 to 2014.
Media
reports
can
have
effects
to
the
people
consuming
the
message
and
these
could
either
be
psychological
or
physical.
In
the
SAGE
handbook
of
media
processes
and
effects
(2009),
talks
about
the
different
classes
of
effects
that
can
be
achieved
by
the
consumers
of
the
mediated
content
Five
classes
of
media
effects
on
individuals
are
often
considered:
behavioral,
attitudinal,
cognitive,
emotional,
and
psychological.
Behavioral
effects
result
when
a
media
message
consumer
performs
some
action
presented
via
media.
Attitudinal
occur
when
media
shape
message
consumers
opinions,
beliefs
and
values.
Cognitive
effects
are
those
that
result
when
media
change
what
consumers
think
or
know.
Emotional
effects
occur
when
media
produce
certain
feelings
such
as
fear,
anxiety,
or
euphoria
in
message
consumers.
And
physiological
effects
are
those
changes
in
arousal
or
other
physical
bodily
reactions
that
are
derived
from
media
consumption
(Nabi and Oliver, 2009, p.
13-14)
3.
Literature
review
Various scholars have already researched about immigrants that started to arrive in
Ireland in large numbers from the start of 1996. They mention why immigrants in a
way they had not seen before were now targeting Ireland
The period of accelerated capital accumulation in the 1990s, which
became known as the Celtic Tiger, required a greatly increased number of
workers to provide the labor it was based on (Fanning and Munck,
2011, p. 8)
During the same time, non-European immigrants begun to arrive in big numbers
mainly to work and also to seek asylum. (Focus-migration.hwwi.de, 2015)
According to Bignell in his book Media Semiotics, an introduction (2002), he talks
about language as a sign and carries meaning for someone.
4.
METHODOLOGY
This
research
study
is
going
to
analyze
newspapers
that
where
printed
in
Ireland,
reporting
about
African
immigrants
from
the
height
of
the
influx
in
1996
-2014
and
try
to
find
out
whether,
these
reports
had
any
effects
towards
the
integration
of
these
new
settlers.
For
this
study,
I
chose
to
triangulate,
combining
both
qualitative
and
quantitative
research.
According
to
the
book,
Qualitative and Quantitative Research;
The qualitative, naturalistic approach is used when observing and
interpreting reality with the aim of developing a theory that will explain
what was experienced. The quantitative approach is used when one begins
with a theory (or hypothesis) and tests for confirmation or disconfirmation
of that hypothesis. (Newman and Benz, 1998, p. 3).
Other methodologies that can be employed in this research are media discourse,
which basically is anything that is mediated to us either written or spoken through a
broadcast platform
I
used
an
Ipad
to
record
his
interview,
which
I
transcribed
for
further
analysis.
The
questions
where
1. When
did
you
come
to
Ireland?
2. How
long
have
you
been
in
the
hostels?
3. Are
there
any
measures
set
up
to
help
you
integrate
in
the
community
you
live
in?
4. Do
you
think
the
people
have
a
positive
or
negative
attitude
towards
asylum
seekers?
5. Do
you
think
the
press
in
Ireland
is
helping
or
hindering
the
settlement
of
asylum
seekers?
6. Is
there
anything
else
you
would
like
to
add?
5.
Interviews
analysis
The
interviews
of
Mr.
Mbemba
and
Mr.
Muhwezi
both
had
similarities
that
where
broken
down
into
4
themes,
Isolation,
training,
accommodation
and
closure
of
reception
centers
These
themes
where
developed
due
to
the
most
talked
about
topics
of
the
interview
and
parts
that
both
participants
had
more
concern
Isolation
During
the
interview,
Mr.
Mbemba
focused
a
lot
on
the
point
of
the
isolation
of
the
asylum
seekers
from
the
Irish
public.
He
totally
rejects
the
idea
of
confining
people
into
direct
provision.
Its
actually
isolation
so
the
asylum
system
when
you
talk
about
that,
thats
not
part
of
integration
its
actually
isolation
because
that
was
proposed
planned
to
isolate
people
who
are
in
the
system
they
dont
have
chances
to
go
out,
their
not,
they
dont
have
opportunities
to
be
employed
they
dont
mix
with
any
other
people
except
people
in
the
asylum
process,
except
people
who
have
other
10
13
6.
Data
collection
The study involved collecting newspapers that reported about the African immigrants.
I searched through the Dublin public library database/archives, using the key terms
African, Asylum seeker and Refugee. The following newspapers came up with reports
that where stereotypical and defamatory.
Irish Independent
Munster Express
14
Southern Star
Kerryman
Sunday Independent
Mayo News
City Tribune
Longford Leader
Connacht Tribune
7. Discourse analysis
Discourse analysis examines the patterns of language across texts and considers the
relationship between language and the social and cultural contexts in which it is used.
Discourse analysis also considers the ways that the use of language presents different
views of the world and different understandings. It examines how the use of language
is influenced by relationships between participants as well as the effects the use of
language has upon social identities and relations. It also considers how views of the
world, and identities, are constructed through the use of discourse. (Paltridge, 2012
pg.13-14)
The newspaper reports where analyzed and reviewed, looking for most occurring
concepts and categories in the data that represents the test question. The data was then
generated into codes that had the similar themes for a thematic analysis. It comprises
the definition of the most recurrent or the most important (based on the specific
question being answered or the theoretical position of the receiver) issues or themes
arising in a body of evidence (Pope, Mays and Popay, 2007)
This discourse study is going to look at the language the media used in the portrayal
of the African immigrants and how the writer might use language in influencing
peoples decisions and interpretation of the message.
Human communication is the vehicle for political and social thought,
debate and action. Language serves as the agent of social interaction: as
the channel for the transmission of values: and as the glue that bond
15
The generation retrieved 5 themes that fell under the following categories:
1. Financial burden to the state
2. Violent
3. Influx
4. Fraudsters
5. Infected
Financial
burden
to
the
state
This theme was formed because of the frequent newspaper reports about excessive
government spending towards the housing, feeding, medical, and also the deportation
of failed asylum seekers. An example is an excerpt from the Irish independent
Charters sought to deport asylum seekers,
04/01/2005 pg.5
According to the reporter of this article, the use of terms such as charter basically
referring to renting an entire private airplane to deport individual asylum seekers
would basically pave the readers mind in thinking the asylum seekers are living a
luxurious life even during deportation, mentioning the 1.4 million euros spent in 2004
on deportation.
More articles appeared in different newspapers with headlines showing the financial
burden the government is going through to contain the rising number of refugees with
high figures of euros that have been spent and more to be spent.
Housing and payout for asylum seekers
Comes to 80m
16
Reports like these will change almost any ones perception of immigrants. They bring
forward the idea that these new incomers are getting everything free which wouldnt
have a positive image to the hard working Irish citizen who pays his tax and its
directed towards giving asylum seekers accommodation in Affluent Dublin homes.
Violent
This theme came up because newspapers often referred to the Immigrants behavior as
that not acceptable in Ireland. It did not mention people as individuals but as a group
of people.
Asylum seeker cut four baby goats throats
Irish independent. 05.07.2013, page22
The Muslim group of people carries out this practice as a religious offering, but the
heading of the Irish Independent labeled them as asylum seekers, which would pass
on as a thing thats practiced by all African immigrants
More articles of violence did appear in different newspapers such as
Asylum seekers angry at being placed on voting register
City Tribune, 05.06.2009, page 7
22
This theme came up a lot because the mention of Illegal working, welfare cheats by
several newspapers.
Nigerian welfare scammers spur for immigration bill
Sunday Independent. 03/12/1999 page 1
Welfare fraudsters among deported asylum seekers
Irish Independent, 21.09.2006, page 15
Revealed: identity scam of failed asylum seekers
Irish Independent, 21.05.2012, page 8
25m scam by asylum seekers uncovered
Irish Independent, 31.01.2007, page 1
One in four asylum seekers disappears after applying
Irish Independent, 12.05.2008, page 12
Algerian asylum seeker used a false ID to earn 131,000 as a laborer
Connacht Tribune, 12.10.2012, page 12
Missing asylum seekers making mockery of system
Irish independent, 09.11.2007, page 6
The labeling of a group of people by one individual act is bound to tarnish their name
and their settling into the their new communities. No one will associate with you if
you are labeled as a scam. More so since asylum seekers werent allowed to work,
this creates problem due to the shortage of funds to cater for their wellbeing and this
leads to working illegally or engaging in illegal activities such as scamming
Infected
This theme did not come up a lot but I found it interesting from the nature of its report
due to its stereotypical nature.
23
Liars
This theme was made up due to the newspapers constantly quoting government
representatives on the issue that asylum seekers where not genuine and most of them
where using the soft Irish immigration laws to enter the country.
Four out of five asylum seekers lie about where they are from
Irish independent, 22.12.08 page 9
McDowell rubbishes tall stories of some asylum seekers
Irish Independent, 19.05.2005, page 5
Majority of bogus asylum seekers are not deported
Irish independent, 05.01.2008, page 17
24
The graph below shows the number of times mentions where made by various papers
on different subjects. It was carried out from 66 different pieces of newspapers, local
and national.
Newspaper
Financial Violent
Influx
Fraudsters Liars
Sick
burden
Kerryman
1x
Irish
11x
7x
1x
8x
6x
4x
4x
independent
Munster
1x
4x
Express
1x
3x
1x
City
Tribune
Mayo News
Connacht
1x
1x
4x
1x
Tribune
Southern
1x
Star
Longford
1x
Leader
Westmeath
1x
Examiner
Donegal
1x
2x
News
Tuam
2x
Herald
Sunday
1x
Independent
25
According to research, it has become clear to see that the Irish Independent
Newspaper had the most negative reported stories about the African Immigrants and
Sunday independent having the least
26
role in creating panic among the citizens with the type of language they used most of
the texts referring to them as not wanting to work, and influx.
A headline in the Kerryman north edition newspaper dated 26.05.2005, page 59 stated
Strong views on asylum seekers plan this all came about due to government plan to
house 60 new asylum seekers in Killarney. A Killarney resident Mr. Dennis Coffey is
quoted saying
I dont think they should be coming. Killarney just seems to be a
popular resort for them. They cant work, and they have everything
given to them. I think the government should be looking after the
people who live in Killarney not looking after the asylum seekers, he
said (Coffey, Kerryman North Edition, 25.05.2005, p. 59)
It is clear to see that Mr. Coffeys perception of asylum seekers and the large numbers
of them living in Killarney which is a town in County Kerry, is shaped by media
panic reports that appeared in the Kerryman newspaper. A reference he uses to state
there is enough asylum seekers in Killarney already
A newspaper article that appeared in the Kerryman clearly states how the county is
being targeted by asylum seekers and having the largest number in the country
Kerry has one of the highest quotas of asylum seekers
Kerryman, 11.02.2000, page 50
The report shapes county Kerry residents on how they will treat the arrival of these
asylum seekers in the county. They keep referring to, the overpopulation of their town
by these asylum seekers.
Other concerns from local residents of Killarney
They just come into the country and expect everything to be given to
them for free. We need to clampdown on the numbers before we have a
27
28
31
9.
Conclusion
Despite
the
press
in
Ireland
reporting
stereotypical
and
defamatory
headlines
about
the
African
refugees
and
playing
a
part
in
influencing
peoples
perceptions
about
them
as
we
have
seen
in
earlier
chapters,
its
become
known
according
to
this
research
that
the
biggest
obstacle
in
the
integration
of
Africans
in
Ireland
is
the
government
policy
of
housing
them
in
hostels
for
long
periods
of
time
which
affects
the
ability
for
them
to
interact
with
the
Irish
people
and
also
embracing
the
Irish
culture.
This
leaves
these
people
only
making
friends
with
fellow
Africans
and
building
relations
with
only
people
of
the
same
kind
which
when
later
on
after
they
are
granted
refuge
status
and
they
have
to
leave
these
hostels,
they
find
a
problem
feeling
part
of
the
Irish
culture
they
didnt
embrace
during
their
stay.
Its
also
not
helping
when
government
ministers
who
are
supposedly
supposed
to
educate
the
people
about
refugees,
start
labeling
them
in
the
press
32
as
Bogus
and
liars
this
will
definitely
confirm
to
what
the
press
is
reporting
and
in
general
the
public
opinion
will
be
shaped
too.
I
think
if
the
integration
process
was
to
be
a
success
in
Ireland,
it
has
to
start
from
when
the
Africans
just
arrive
in
Ireland,
encouraging
them
to
embrace
the
Irish
culture,
making
it
part
of
their
new
story
rather
than
leaving
them
to
stay
in
isolation
for
long
periods
and
then
releasing
them
to
the
streets
to
integrate
into
society
33
10.
References
34
11. Bibliography
Berger, A. (1982). Media analysis techniques. Beverly Hills: Sage Publications.
Bignell, J. (2002). 2nd ed. Manchester: Manchester University Press.
Denton, R. (2004). Language, symbols, and the media. New Brunswick, N.J.:
Transaction Publishers.
Fanning, B. and Munck, R. (2011). Globalization, migration and social
transformation. Farnham, Surrey: Ashgate.
Gillespie, M. and Toynbee, J. (2006). Analyzing media texts. Maidenhead, Berkshire,
England: Open University Press in association with the Open University.
Hall, S. (1997). Representation. London: Sage in association with the Open
University.
Lentin, R. and Moreo, E. (2012). Migrant activism and integration from below in
Ireland. Houndmills, Basingstoke, Hampshire: Palgrave Macmillan.
McCombs, M. (2015). Setting the Agenda: Mass Media and Public Opinion. 2nd ed.
John Wiley & Sons, 2014.
Nabi, R. and Oliver, M. (2009). The SAGE handbook of media processes and effects.
Los Angeles: SAGE.
35
Appendix
1
Introduce
your
self
if
you
dont
mind
Jonathan
My
name
is
Jonathan
Muhwezi
I
am
from
Uganda
and
I
have
been
in
the
direct
provision
system
for
five
years
Henry
kasozi
For
five
years,
thats
actually
the
question
I
was
going
to
start
with,
to
ask
you
like
how
long
youve
been
in
the
hostels
but
youve
basically
explained
that
you
have
been
five
years
in
the
hostels
Jonathan
Ya
Henry
Ok.
And
are
there
any
measures
set
out
to
help
you
integrate
in
the
community
you
live
in
Jonathan
Ah
no
there
is
nothing
like
that,
its
one
of
the
issues
we
are
facing
in
the
direct
provision
centers.
First
and
foremost
I
have
to
say
that
we
do
believe,
the
UN,
amnesty
international
and
all
the
organizations
that
are
involved
with
the
asylum
seekers
that
system
is
not
fit
for
the
purpose
for
various
reasons
We
do
not
have
a
chance
to
integrate
in
the
community
because
of
the
draconian
measures
that
where
introduced
where
by
we
have
to
sign
everyday,
there
is
roll
36
call
everyday
so
if
you
do
miss
a
roll
call
for
any
reason
whatsoever
probably
if
you
are
not
in
the
hostel
for
one
night
then
you
get
transferred
from
that
accommodation
center
to
a
different
center
and
these
centers
are
usually
hundreds
of
kilometers
away.
So,
you
get
uprooted
from
where
youve
been
so
you
lose
all
the
connections
youve
made
all
the
contacts
youve
made
in
that
particular
area,
all
the
friendships
youve
established.
So
in
that
way
it
is
very
hard
for
us
to
integrate
and
assimilate
and
another
thing
is
we
are
not
allowed
visitors
in
some
of
these
centers
visitors
are
not
allowed
so
there
is
no
way
we
can
bring
our
families
or
our
friends
to
come
and
visit
us.
So
you
find
things
like
that
affect
our
integration
as
well
Henry
Ah,
ok.
And
do
you
think
the
people
have
positive
or
negative
towards
asylum
seekers?
Jonathan
Ah,
no,
yeah
they
do
have
a
negative
attitude
towards
asylum
seekers
because
they
think
we
are
here
for
the
social
basically
they
say
we
abuse
the
system
which
is
not
the
case
because
obviously
people
we
dont
intend
to
leave
our
homes
to
come
to
this
place.
There
so
many
reasons
what
people
seek
asylum,
most
people
are
being
persecuted,
some
people
are
coming
from
war
zones.
So
its
not
by
choice
that
we
come
here.
The
general
feeling,
the
general
settlement
out
there
is
that
asylum
seekers
are
here
for
economic
reasons
which
is
not
the
case
Henry
Ok,
and
do
you
think
the
press
in
Ireland
is
helping
or
hindering
the
settlement
of
asylum
seekers
Jonathan
I
think
over
the
past
six
months,
the
press
have
gotten
involved
in
our
plight
and
we
do
appreciate
because
now
they
have
given
us
a
platform
to
voice
our
concerns
there
and
they
are
helping
us
a
lot
especially
the
Irish
Times
you
know,
37
they
have
been
advocating
for
the
humane
treatment
of
asylum
seekers.
RTE
has
gotten
involved
and
the
local
press.
Yap
I
think
they
are
really
helping
us
in
that
aspect
Henry
Thats
very
good
so
am
is
there
any
thing
else
you
would
like
to
add
that
you
think
is
very
important
that
I
have
missed
out
Jonathan
Yes
ya
mmm,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
direct
provision
system
because
I
am
very
passionate
about
this,
I
have
been
advocating
for
the
closure
we
have
been
advocating
for
the
closure.
The
Irish
refugee
council
Doras
Luimni
which
is
a
local
organization
involved
with
the
assimilation
and
integration
of
asylum
seekers
in
Limerick
here,
we
have
Amnesty
international
and
the
UN,
we
do
believe
that
the
system
is
not
fit
for
purpose.
The
direct
provision
system
you
know
has
a
lot
of
flows
and
it
has
to
be
amended
or
overhauled.
The
ministry
of
justice
did
appoint
a
working
group
last
year
to
look
at
ways
of
which
to
improve
the
system
because
initially
the
system
was
meant
to
house
asylum
seekers
for
a
period
of
six
months
and
that
is
not
the
case
because
a
lot
of
people
who
have
been
for
ten
years,
eight
years
me
myself
I
have
been
here
for
five
years
and
I
consider
myself
being
lucky
because
five
years
is
a
short
period
of
time
compared
to
the
duration
of
time
other
people
have
been
living
here.
You
see,
the
staff
and
management
of
these
centers
are
not
trained
enough
to
deal
with
people
coming
from
different
backgrounds.
They
have
to
have
the
proper
training
because
you
see,
asylum
seekers
are
vulnerable,
they
should
be
categorized
as
vulnerable
people
so
that
they
get
proper
services
directed
to
vulnerable
people,
which
is
not
the
case.
There
is
no
training;
there
is
a
lot
of
physical
and
verbal
abuse
in
these
systems
you
know,
and
people
are
housed
in
some
centers
they
are
eight
people
in
a
room
you
see.
We
have
to
bear
in
mind
that
we
come
from
different
backgrounds,
we
have
different
cultures
and
traditions
and
different
religion.
There
is
bound
to
be
conflict,
eight
people
are
sharing
a
room
for
eight
to
ten
years,
there
is
bound
to
be
conflict.
38
Another
thing
is
there
is
no
provisions
for
children
you
know,
children
born
in
the
asylum
system
do
not
have
the
privileges
as
children
who
are
born
out
there
as
Irish
children.
So
we
have
to
have
services
directed
to
children.
There
have
been
incidences
of
child
abuse
and
sexual
abuse
in
some
of
these
centers,
the
children
in
these
centers
have
no
space
to
play,
they
dont
have
access
to
internet,
obviously
their
friends
are
not
allowed
to
come
and
visit.
And
you
find
that
some
of
the
children
in
these
centers
do
share
the
bathrooms
and
toilets
with
adults.
We
also
have
an
issue
with
the
food.
I
know
it
is
very
hard
to
cater
for
everybodys
palate
because
people
have
got
different
tastes
and
palate
but
you
know
the
food,
which
is
being
provided
in
these
hostels,
is
below
standard.
And
this
wouldnt
have
been
an
issue
if
you
spent
six
months
in
a
hostel
but
if
you
are
going
to
spend
ten
years
in
the
hostel,
obviously
thats
going
to
be
a
problem.
Another
thing
we
have
been
talking
about
is
access
to
education.
Asylum
seekers
do
not
have
access
to
third
level
qualification
of
education;
the
only
courses
available
are
English
lessons
and
computer
lessons
for
beginners.
A
lot
of
people
come
here
with
qualifications;
we
have
highly
qualified
individuals,
asylum
seekers
and
refugees
who
dont
have
a
chance
to
go
out
there
and
work
because
they
are
not
allowed
to
work.
And
in
the
duration
of
the
time
you
spend
in
the
direct
provision
center
they
do
lose
their
skills.
The
system
will
have
to
re
train,
they
have
to
up
skill
and
its
very
hard
to
get
that
transition
form
being
dormant
not
working
for
ten
years
for
you
to
have
left
that
transition
to
start
working.
And
another
thing
is
obviously
after
spending
so
many
years
in
the
hostel
without
having
access
to
work,
access
to
education,
this
affects
people.
Their
mental
health
is
affected
because
there
is
no
mental
stimulation,
people
are
being
institutionalized,
we
have
a
lot
people
who
have
got
mental
health
issues
in
the
hostels
and
those
issues
are
not
addressed.
We
do
not
have
psychiatric
help
in
the
centers
that
would
deal
with
people
who
have
mental
health
issues
Henry
39
That
is
very
good,
I
really
appreciate
you
participation,
thank
you
very
much
Jonathan
You
are
welcome
Appendix
2
Henry,
Ah
ok
ammmm,
I
realized
you
African
center
in
Dublin
amm
you
are
dealing
with
integration
and
my
very
first
question
would
be,
are
Africans
really
integrating
into
the
Irish
society
Mr.
Bemba
Yeah
I
think
I
have
to
confer
ah
because
like
look,
we
dont
have
a
choice
we
have
to,
and
then,
the
first
thing
is
Africans
are
integrating
at
different
levels
amm,
in
terms
of
education
because
our
courses,
the
courses
we
have
on
our
continent
most
of
them
are
not
recognized
here
so,
first
is
that
we
are
actually
confronted
by
that
and
Africans
are
going
to
schools
In,
in
in
Ireland
to
get
recognized
eh
intellectually,
Henry
Aha
Mr.
Bemba
Amm
Even
though
we
have
lot
of
eh
eh
like
education
background
most
of
the
Africans
here
ah
have
their
first
degree
before
coming
to
Ireland
but
the
degrees
are
not
recognized
and
I
think
one
thing
that
we
want,
the
people
are
doing
is
first
of
all
is
to
engage
in
the
education
system
to
get
their
degrees,
post
graduate
qualification
like
masters
and
PhDs
and
thats
the
first
thing
Africans
are
doing
40
41
chances
to
go
out,
their
not,
they
dont
have
opportunities
to
be
employed
they
dont
mix
with
any
other
people
except
people
in
the
asylum
process
except
people
who
have
other
friends
outside
or
they
are
actually
making
there
own
integration
but
they
cant
work,
but
they
take
their
children
to
school
they
meet
with
other
families
or
they
meet
with
people
in
town
and
they
come
to
places
like
ourselves
they
have
a
conversation
of
how
they
are
going
through
and
things
like
that.
But
the
asylum
process
in
itself
its
discouraging
integration
so
thats
what
the
government,
the
government
is
not
actually
doing
integrate,
they
are
doing
that
to
actually
stop
the
integration
process
so
thats
a
discouragement
the
asylum
process
and
the
eh
definite
need
to
reform
its
self
and
they
are
not
willing
to
do
that
at
the
moment
The
statutory
that
even
the
minister
em
committee
that
was
set
up
to
look
into
the
asylum
process,
I
dont
know
if
there
is
any
Africans
involved
in
that
committee,
they
might
be
some
migrant
involved
but
I
dont,
I
dont
see
a
nomination
of
an
African
there
but
even
if
they
are
there,
you
see
like
are
they
the
ones
who
are
actually
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
asylum
seekers.
If
there
are
any
asylum
seekers
that
have
been
nominated
for
that
committee
who
actually
would
be
speaking
for
the
asylum
eh
seeker
as
well
and
also
when
you
talk
about
the
asylum
seeker
the
say
to
you
that
ok
its
not
only
Africans
who
are
in
the
asylum
process.
If
you
look
at
the
numbers,
I
think
its
eeh
I
might
get
this
wrong
but
probably
in
your
research
you
can
look
into
it
but
its
probably
six
thousand,
over
six
thousand
who
are
in
the
asylum
process
but
you
see
to
it
that
ehh
like
ehh
I
would
definitely
I
am
pretty
sure
about
it
like
80%
of
the
asylum
seekers
here
or
in
the
reception
centers
they
constitute
90%
of
them
are
Africans.
So
you
dont
even
see
some
of
the
people
who
are
listed
on
the
asylum
process,
the
asylum
seekers,
they
are
not
in
the
asylum
centers
I
dont
know,
I
dont
see
a
lot
of
Chinese
there,
I
dont
see
a
lot
of
Latin
Americans,
they
are
also
some
eastern
Europeans
I
dont
actually
see
them
at
asylum
centers
so
where
are
they?
This
is
the
question
that
I
think
we
need
to
ask
the
government
about
the
whole
detail
thats
going
on
with
the
asylum
process.
42
Henry
Very
good
and
am
is
the
news
like
media
like
newspapers
helping
or
hindering
the
integration
of
the
Africans
and
asylum
seekers
in
Ireland
Mr.
Bemba
Well
you
see
the
news
In
Ireland
has
along
history
ehh
you
have
to
understand
how
Irish
people
know
about
Africa
first
of
all
emm
I
always
when
they
say
that
Ireland
has
never
colonized
a
country
but
I
say,
I
always
turn
back
and
say
I
think
Ireland
has
been
a
colonizer
in
terms
of
religion
because
there
is
so
many
Irish
priests
that
have
been
going
to
African
countries
and
I
think
it
is
a
not
in
a
bad
way
of
spreading
religion
to
African
countries
so
and
those
people
coming
back
to
Ireland
and
I
think
eh
one
thing
they
always
bring
back
is
the
syndrome.
The
black
baby
syndrome
They
go
to
churches
with
their
families
before
even
the
Africans
come
here.
So
they
go
and
collect
the
pounds
eh
and
this
is
what
the
priest
who
is
a
brother
or
uncle
or
something
is
coming
back
to
Africa
with.
So
that
full
written
has
a
long
history
and
the
image
out
there
is
the
black
baby
syndrome
and
that
was
taken
over
by
the
NGOs
as
well
like
the
Trocaire
boxes,
the
other
donations,
now
the
televisions
has
actually
even
embraced
that.
Eh
images
are
coming
when
you
are
even
ready
to
have
your
diner
so
these
are
the
images
that
are
coming
from
concern,
Trocaire,
goal,
and
all
the
other
international
NGOs
on
our
TV
screens.
So
its
actually
make
people
really
vulnerable
and
then
the
media
is
actually
doing
that
but
along
side
the
print
media
as
well.
If
you
look
at
the
newspapers
like
when
something
terrible
happens
to
Africa,
its
more
Eh
like
this
what
encourage
them
to
print
some
but
positive
things
are
actually
left
out.
So
this
is
the
image
that
the
Irish
people
actually
see
Africans
and
the
African
continent
itself.
So
thats
the
representation
we
are
dealing
with
even
now.
And
I
dont
think
even
our
own
media
because
we
have
papers
here
as
well.
Some
of
the
papers
I
wont
name
them
but
they
are
African
led
my
everyday
but
some
of
the
publications
they
also
do,
and
I
also
even
have
challenged
to
them.
43
They
are
not
even
helping,
I
told
them
probably
a
newspaper
would
be
more
of
promoting
the
positive
side
of
Africa
and
Africans
living
in
Ireland
if
the
others
are
doing
the
negative
way
but
it
seams
that
because
theyre
also
cause
of
this
so
called
media
eh
eh
kind
of
way
of
selling,
selling
the
news,
selling
the
paper,
selling
what
is
actually
coming
from
so
that
you
can
attract
more
readers
and
things
like
that.
So
they
also
adapt
away
of
sometimes
ridiculous
messages
coming
from
those
papers
as
well
and
at
times
somebody
there
is
a
time
I
was
actually
criticizing
the
newspapers
in
Ireland
here
and
the
NGOs
one
of
the
NGOs
happened
to
pick
up
African
publishing
newspaper
here
in
Ireland
and
show
me
a
story
and
that
story
was
very
negative
he
said
to
me
but
like
you
are
saying
that
like
really
its
not
about
the
white
Irish
media
or
people
doing
this
but
this
is
also
coming
from
the
Africans,
what
do
you
have
to
say?
I
said,
you
are
all
the
same
journalism
meet
journalism
whether
somebody
is
white,
or
back,
an
African,
a
European
I
think
the
negativity
is
actually
the
one
that
is
being
portrayed
but
the
positives
are
not
so
thats
how
the
media
is
actually
addressing
the
Africans
in
Ireland
Henry
Thank
you
very
much
and
you
mentioned
about
the
asylum
seekers,
the
government
not
helping
them
to
integrate
like
mmmm
when
they
are
granted
lets
say
refugee
status,
humanitarian
status.
Are
they
just
left
to
go
and
find
their
way
into
the
society
or
they
are
measures
set
out
for
them
to
you
know
to
leave
that
segregation
to
integrate
and
get
jobs
and
educate
themselves,
is
there
any
help,
do
they
find
any
help?
Mr.
Bemba
Well
I
didnt
realize
that
eeh,
no
they
dont
because
the
people
I
come
across,
I
dont
have
experience
myself
because
I
come
here
as
a
student
and
then
work
44
through
getting
employment
and
then
being
an
Irish
citizen
but
I
think
with
my
experience
dealing
with
people
who
where
in
the
asylum
system
or
excuse
me
they
got
leave
to
remain,
or
on
humanitarian
grounds.
They
get
their
papers;
the
next
thing
is
probably
you
go
to
social,
you
know
the
system
how
it
works
here
you
actually
have
a
right
to
get
information
but
the
moment
you
go
there,
depends
on
the
person
you
met,
they
are
so
angry,
like
they
see
you
without
even
answering
your
question,
oh
is
here
only
for
support
so
its
such
thing
that
information
is
not
very
clear,
eeh,
what
your
rights
are,
what
your
entitlements
are,
and
things
like
that.
So
people
will
struggle.
For
some
body
who
is
given
a
refugee
status,
is
equally
to
an
Irish
citizen
the
only
difference
is
that
they
dont
have
an
Irish
passport
in
their
hand,
but
they
should
be
helped
financially,
they
should
be
helped
in
terms
of
accommodation,
they
should
get
access
to
education
and
things
like
that.
These
are
some
of
the
things
they
struggle.
In
some
places
the
moment
you
are
actually
getting
your
papers
all
these
information
are
provided
to
you
but
this
is
not
what
happens,
people
struggle
to
get
those
things.
You
are
actually
frustrated
with
the
system,
the
asylum
system.
You
get
your
papers
get
more
frustrated
as
well.
So
these
are
some
of
the
things
that
are
actually
lacking
in
terms
of
the
government,
preparing
people
for
settlement
or
integration.
So
the
help
is
very
limited.
Like
there
are
some
nice
people,
you
go
to
citizen
information
office
or
some
of
the
like,
part
of
the
social
office.
Henry:
very
good.
I
saw
like
the
offices
where
launched
in
2001,
and
due
to
my
research
I
found
out
that
prior
to
2001,
asylum
seekers
where
allowed
to
rent
houses
but
after
that
they
started
putting
them
in
hostels.
I
dont
know
what
caused
this,
would
you
have
any
idea
and
do
you
think
that,
I
think
you
already
mentioned
about
the
segregation
may
be
you
can
point
more
light
on
how
its
affecting
integration
because
they
where
allowed
to
rent
houses
so
they
where
directly
in
contact
with
the
Irish
society
but
when
they
where
segregated
after
2002
do
you
think
its
actually
making
things
even
worse?
Mr.
Bemba
45
I
can
address
this
in
two
ways,
one
is
on
the
way
of
segregation
because
like,
before
it
was
actually
something
thats
been
practiced
in
some
European
countries
like
asylum
seekers
are
given
private
kind
of
chances
to
have
private
accommodation
where
by
they
mix
with
the
locals,
they
can
rent
anywhere
they
want
to
because
like
that
also
you
are
not
actually
labeling
them
as
the
asylum
seeker
or
this
is
the
person.
The
moment
you
put
them
in
the
reception
center,
everyone
knows
that
any
one
who
walks
in
through
that
door,
through
that
house
that
he
is
actually
an
asylum
seeker.
You
see
that
is
something
that
is
very
negative
but
before,
you
can
live
with
people
in
the
community,
you
are
paying
your
rent,
you
are
eating
food,
you
are
going
in
and
out
in
the
day,
you
have
access
to
everything,
who
is
saying
you
are
an
asylum
seeker
or
not.
So
I
think
that
system,
when
they
took
it
out,
they
is
two
things.
One
is
that
its
a
government
policy
at
the
time
by
the
ministry
of
justice
I
dont
know
its
Donoghue
at
the
time
who
decided
that,
ok
we
need
to
talk
to
these
people
in
an
accommodation.
But
another
thing
also
is
that
also
you
have
to
really
understand
how
things
work
here
as
well.
Putting
asylum
seekers
in
the
reception
center
is
also
creating
business
for
certain
type
of
people
and
am
not
labeling
these
types
of
people
to
say
that
ok
they
work
with
the
government.
But
you
see,
its
a
business
so
an
opportunity
was
created
for
certain
people
to
actually
have
business.
The
reception
centers
are
directly
run
by
the
department
of
justice,
these
are
privately
run
and
if
you
look
around,
people
who
are
running
these
reception
centers,
them
I
think,
am
not
really
sure
about
this
probably
you
shouldnt
quote
me
on
this
but
they
would
have
some
links
with
influenced
people.
And
that
is
dragging
on
and
on
because
we
dont
really
know
who
is
running
these
asylum
centers.
And
then
the
campaign
is
going
on
to
close
the
asylum
centers
for
people
to
go
back
to
private
residents,
but
they
are
also
campaign
going
on
for
people
who
actually
benefiting
from
this
business
because,
its
a
business
and
also
I
think
they
are
restrictions
in
terms
of
their
movement,
Emmm
they
dont
want
asylum
seekers
to
go
from
where
they
are
because
most
of
these
reception
centers
where
they
are
sometimes
its
very
difficult
to
even
have
transport,
public
transport.
So
you
are
actually,
46
Mr.
Mbemba
Hello
Henry
Yes
I
can
hear
you
Mbemba
Sorry
there
was
an
echo
there,
but
you
are
actually
confronted
to
be
travelling
if
you
are
at
reception
center,
you
have
to
wait
for
the
bus,
then
the
bus
come
on
a
time
so
you
have
return
back
at
a
specific
time
to
your
location.
So
you
are
being
cooked
food
that
you
dont
want,
the
children,
like
four
people
sleeping
in
the
same
house,
there
is
no
even
privacy.
I
call
it
an
open
prison
honestly;
in
my
own
words
I
call
it
an
open
prison.
So
these
are
some
of
the
things
I
think
eh
related
to
them
and
I
dont
know
like
at
the
moment
there
is
no
way
em
because
even
before
like,
last
Monday
was
a
campaign
about,
to
close
reception
centers.
Lets
wait
and
see
the
report
that
is
coming
out
and
I
say
to
you
even
one
of
the
things
that
I
am
even
thinking
might
be
included
in
those
reports
will
be
that
its
too
soon,
there
needs
to
be
a
lot
of
planning,
where
are
they
going
to
go
because
they
need
to
be
legislation
is
going
to
come,
in
terms
of
that
because
they
are
not
ready
to
leave
those
people
to
go
and
get
work.
They
are
so
many
skills
that
have
been
wasted
in
them
and
I
think
if
they
allow
asylum
seekers
to
have
private
rented,
to
have
access
have
access
to
employment,
things
will
change
for
them
honestly
Henry
47
Very
good,
very
good.
So
to
clear
up
this
is
my
last
question
for
you
am,
as
a
representative
of
African
center
and
helping
them
integrate,
what
is
being
done
and
what
do
you
think
is
not
being
done
by
the
government.
Mr.
Mbemba
First
of
all
the
thing
is
that
honestly
in
terms
of
integration,
em
like
we
as
an
organization,
we
are
left
out.
Because
the
thing
is
we
are
advocate
for
minister
of
integration
and
then
three
years
ago
a
minister
of
integration
was
appointed.
But
then,
the
ministry
of
integration
we
where
looking
at
funding.
Honestly
and
this
thing
whether
it
would
suit
well
with
good
organization
but
I
think
like
every
non
government
organization
like
the
Africa
center
we
are
better
off
like
working
with
the
African
people
who
are
either
in
the
asylum
process
or
other
way
of
looking
for
assistance
than
main
Irish
NGOs.
But
then
something
went
to
the
main
Irish
NGOs
and
later
it
was
even
taken
from
the
main
counties
like
integration
funding.
So
integration
funding
was
coming
from
the
county
councils.
2000,
3000
euro,
and
mainly
into
activities.
We
want
to
go
beyond
activities,
we
want
to
go
into
policies,
how
do
we
change
policies,
how
do
we
give
these
people
training
and
independence
skills,
how
can
they
set
up
businesses
when
they
actually
leave
the
asylum
process,
to
prepare
them,
how
can
they
actually
get
third
level
education.
These
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
where
actually
thinking
of
doing,
but
then
we
couldnt
do
it
as
organization
because
we
like
confronted
with
funding
issues
and
there
is
no
mechanism
to
give
funding
to
organization
like
ourselves.
Ok,
some
people
might
think
that
may
be
Africa
center
especially
Africans,
it
has
let
Africans
down,
but
look
it
always
difficult
to
work
in
a
system
where
by
financially
you
dont
have
any
thing.
Nobody
wants
to
work
on
voluntary
basis,
you
can
have
people
Monday
or
Tuesdays
but
it
is
always
difficult
to
get
things
done
and
I
think
our
selves,
we
have
tried
a
lot,
we
have
tried
entrepreneurship
training,
even
getting
to
the
48
49