Perendev style Magnetic Motor Free Energy Generator

Posted on 2013/03/31 by Joseph E Postma

This is something I looked at 3 or 4 years ago and then forgot about. I used a CAD-style program that does
element analysis and adds up magnetic force vectors. If you look at some of the Perendev-motorwork by others
on the net, there is the issue of finding an arrangements of the magnets so that they dont find a local minimum
in the gradient field and get stuck there; the solutions usually involved using multiple rotors (3 typically) with
a staggered configuration of the outer stator magnets. I thought why not stagger the magnets on a single
rotor/stator pair in such a way that a single pair will never find a local minimum in a full rotation?. The
software (Vizimag) can tell you the total force vector on each magnetic element in the diagram.

The idea is that the outer ring would be fixed on an annulus, called a stator, and the inner ring would be on
another annulus but attached to a rotating axis, which could drive a generator.
Given that the outer ring would be fixed, I used Vizimag to determine the x & y force components on each of the
inner magnets, did some simple trig and got the total tangential force on the rotor. Because the tangential

force from each magnet acts along the tangent of the inner annulus to which theyre attached, you can then just
add them all up together and see if there is a non-zero tangential force in one rotary direction. Using parameter
values for real rare-Earth magnets, Vizimag said that the total net tangential force on the inner rotor was in the
hundreds of foot (not inches) pounds of torque, for a 12 rotor with 1 x 3 magnets of typical rare-earth
magnet Gauss strength, which I just looked up the value for on the web from a retailer for these magnets. The
stator magnets are 1 x 2.
Some notes:
1) The total number of magnets is 33. I figured things are hidden within the number 33.
2) 15 magnets on the inside, 18 on the outside. Spaced equally with #3 below setting the referent.
3) The first inner magnet, the horizontal one in the upper right quadrant, points at the outer rim of the inner
annulus at 32 degrees.
4) Other designs I read about had directly-facing magnets on inner and outer annuli. While this would cause
repulsion in one direction if they were all perfectly lined up, it also automatically creates a local minimum, or
balance, of force between the magnets, when they were angled in between each other. So the inner axis would
just rotate into the intermediary position and then STOP, forcefully. This required 2 or 3 more disks /annuli
combos to be oriented at staggered positions relative to each other along a connecting drive axis so that when
one disk wanted to stop rotating, the others would keep on pushing.
5) Why not stagger the magnets on a single disk, then? Thats what I tried. The result being that as the inner
rotor rotates relative to the stator, while the total tangential force in the CCW direction does vary in magnitude, it
does not ever reverse direction. If a few magnets start repulsing in the wrong direction, there are always more
magnets of more total force pushing in the original direction.2
6) I emailed the guy who wrote the magnet force CAD software (Vizimag) and asked him if this set up actually
would rotate. He said I was seeing rounding error. I dont believe him. This mesh-grid for the element analysis
is the finest the program will allow. I know how element analysis works. If his software has a rounding problem
in the 100s of pounds of force when each magnets force is only a few pounds, it wouldnt work at all.
7) Therefore the best way to know is to do. I havent done but someone should, just for fun. Maybe it really
wouldnt work but hey, it is still fun garage tinkering. Some high-strength plastic could be machined to fit the
magnets into. Etc etc, mechanical stuff.
8) The rotating magnets would cause huge EMF. It might be picked up by authorities as radio emission.
Therefore, do the test inside a Faraday cage or out in the country far away from everything and then quickly and
leave. The magnetic EMF might also have health issue concernssomight not want to get too near. It might
also look like an EMP weaponor, be an EMP weapon. It would create a ridiculously huge rotating vortex of
magnetic energy flowing out along the axis when spinning at a few thousand RPM
10) If it actually does rotate, how long do the magnets last? How permanent are permanent magnets? How
much energy does it take to create/produce a synthetic permanent magnetic vs. how much energy do you get out
of this design hooked up to a generator? For all the people wishing for a free energy machinewellgo ahead
and try and let us know the results, hehe. You can use this design freely.

Force vector results from the element analysis. The stator magnets are supposed to be 1 by 2 in this diagram.
This is just one rotation angle which was calculated for the force vectors for display here an entire rotation was
actually calculated in increments of 1 degree and all angles resulted in a net tangential force similar to abovein
the same direction.
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Anyway, just posting this here because I had it lying around on my desktop for the last few years. I honestly dont
know if it would work or not. The magnetic force analysis says it would, but hey, models are hardly anything to
go by!