Affirmative

We affirm that the Gypsies/Romani are not from India. As I affirm the resolved of The members
of that culture known as the Romani, Rom, Gypsies, etc. are neither culturally nor ethnically
connected to any ethnic or caste groups of historical Indian origin and, therefore, are not
eligible for funding as refugees from the Indian Subcontinent.
We must start off by defining the Word Origin, which according to dictionary.com is
the first stage of existence; beginning. Also we must define the word connected which means
linked to something so in this case linked to India. We also need to define Indian and it is
a member of any of the peoples native to or inhabiting India
Main point 1: In fact no one knows exactly where the Romani people are from but today we are
going to try and persuade you that the Romani are not from India. As I agree with the Im
Nin'alu which is an article written by different researchers and historians on the Idea of the
Romani Origin. I propose to you this excerpt from the Im Nin'alu:
the last and most widespread myth that is still believed to be true: their alleged IndoEuropean ethnicity. That Roma people reached Europe after a long journey that then began
somewhere in India is a fact which does not imply that they came from their original homeland.
Everybody must come from some place where his/her ancestors lived before, perhaps having
arrived there from some other country. The whole hypothesis regarding their alleged IndoEuropean ethnicity is founded on a sole thing: the Romany language. Such theory does not take
account of other more important cultural facts and evidences that show that Roma have nothing
in common with Indian peoples besides some linguistic elements. If we have to take seriously
any hypothesis that considers only language to determine a people's origin, then we must assume
that almost all North-Africans came from Arabia, that Ashkenazim Jews are a German tribe,that
Sephardic Jews were Spaniards belonging to a religious minority but not a different people, and
so on. Black American people do not even know what language their ancestors spoke,
consequently they must be English. Definitely, language alone is not a sufficient basis to
establish ethnic background, and all the other determinant facts are against the Indian origin of
Roma - including also some clues in the Romany language itself.
The Con team will get up here and propose that the linguistics of the Romani are a independent
reason why they may be from India but as this excerpt tells us that this idea is very much flawed.
Main point 2: The different Romani elements of their society point out to us that they are not
from India. They may have been in India for a little bit but they did not originate from India. And
as we defined Origin as the beginning of a culture we have shown that the Romani did not begin
from India so are not connected/linked to any Indian Origin because they were not originally
from there.
Fire-worship elements present in the Romany society imply that Roma sojourned in
Persia enough time to adopt them, and necessarily before the Islamic rule, that means, before
they arrived in India; Remains of some early Scytho-Sarmatic rudiments in Romany customs
are the only vestiges of their stay in India (besides language) and reveal that they settled in the
non-Aryan region of India; such elements belong to that period and not later, because Scytho-

Sarmatic culture had been largely absorbed by Slavic and Magyar civilizations when Roma
arrived in Eastern Europe; Concerning language, it is very likely that Roma already spoke an
Indic tongue before they reached the subcontinent and that such language was Hurrian, adopted
during their first centuries of exile in the land of Mitanni.
Main point 3: The Con team is going to come up here and explain how the people of India are
genetically connected with the Romani. Here is an excerpt from the actually experiment:
Principal-components analysis and analysis of molecular variance indicate that genetic
structure in extant endogamous Romani populations has been shaped by genetic drift and
differential admixture and correlates with the migrational history of the Roma in Europe.
This excerpt from the actual genetic studies says that it correlates with the migrational history of
the Roma but not that it supports that the Roma were originally from India.