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to pioneer new styles of jazz-influenced popular music in the domestic public sphere,
especially Bombay cabaret music and early film songs of the 1940s.4 Initially, Western
popular music in the 1930s was viewed as another, sometimes British, or North
American, even African American or Latin American and its concurrent acceptance
among diverse consumers was a product of assigning these different links of
identification. Later, after integration into cabarets and early Indian film songs,
Western popular music functioned as a permissible other, as defined in domestic terms.
To this end, I conclude by suggesting that some of the filmi hybrid music, the
nomenclature often used to describe the presence of Western music in early Indian film
songs, was influenced by domestic popular music practices established in the 1930s in
which African Americans were a pioneering force.5
connoted a sense of modernity, critics also argued that it was an elixir that offered a
temporary respite from the modern world, often in the form of riot, incoordination
[and] incoherence.10 Thus, jazz was categorised as intuitive and appealingly unrefined
in much contemporary discourses, and it was romanticised and commodified, quite
consciously, in marketing strategies.
In a simultaneous strain, jazz was also viewed as a symbol of modernity
throughout much of Asia, albeit emanating from the black body. Andrew Jones (2003)
stresses that in inter-war China, jazz was stylish emblem of Chinas participation in
the culture of global modernity. For Yoo Sun-young (2001), the popularity of jazz
among young people and intellectuals in mid-1930s Korea was linked to an interest in
American modernism. The distinctive patterns, appearances and rhythmic touches to
the body and senses11 that jazz afforded helped Korea inscribe American modernity
on the colonial body of Korea,12 and imagine the emancipatory possibilities of
modernity under Japanese occupation. Notions of primitivism were juxtaposed with
their opposite attributes of order and modernity in much of the discourse on jazz.
These polar ideas also served as effective tools in its popularisation in India.
Shaping and controlling the image of African American musicians was central to
perpetuating their popularity in India, and was often accomplished by referencing
these primitivist notions associated with black musicians. Black musicianship had a
curious appeal and it was held in high regard; the reputation of these musicians in
India was reinforced by their close connection to the American jazz scene. Mr
Sebastian, an elderly Anglo-Indian jazz enthusiast currently living in Lucknow who
helped organize performances in Jamalpur in the 1940s, speaks fondly of the talent of
American musicians. In one story about coloured musicians in India, he verifies the
musical virtuosity of black artists by claiming that orchestras composed mostly of
African Americans used to commence performances using only their voices.13 At a
performance he organized at the Railway Institute in Jamalpur during World War II,
he recalls that the musicians were not playing with a single instrument, they were
mimicking their instruments the people [in the audience] were just dumbfounded .
. . they didnt want to get up they were just looking at [them]. The music was
just unbearable, I couldnt leave.14 This virtuosity was unique to African Americans,
and was perceived as a demonstration of their innate musicality. The audience, largely
composed of Anglo-Indians, was spellbound. Some of the key rhetoric used to
describe jazz in the United States and Europe, including references to a cessation of
normal bodily functions, is echoed in Sebastians story.15
Marketers also consciously promoted and enhanced stereotypical exotic African
American cultural attributes. In the farewell night program booklet for musician
Teddy Weatherford at the Taj Mahal Hotel in Bombay in the early 1940s, the band is
described as the Folks woh is going try ter muse the audience.16 Mr Weatherford is
listed as a wizard and Roy Butler moans on the saxophone and clarinet. Drummer
Luis Perdroso bangs on his drums, and trumpeter Crickett Smith, or Sweet Papa
Dee Da, is the man with posanality a Trumpeter bold, who wobbles as well.17 The
banging and moaning, as well as the awkward walking style of Mr Crickett Smith, are
considered important to point-out in an otherwise formal program booklet.
Photographs and descriptions of others performing at the Taj Mahal Hotel maintain
a certain conservative and refined character. The only group photo of African
Americans in this brochure shows them wearing overalls. Other entertainers are in
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either fancy costume or formal dress. In this example, we see that there was a
deliberate racialising of the music, and an appreciation of African Americans through
exotic cultural traits.
Such deliberate attempts to exoticise music via race resulted in significant social
and cultural power. In India, jazz appeared to create a new modernity that was
produced technologically by African American musicians that exceeded simplistic
power relations with Imperial Britain, suggesting an ideology of exceptionalism that
reinforced the emancipatory potential of Western (or black) popular music. As in the
United States, where the ideology of black rhythmic music was profoundly and
intimately connected to the idea of modernity itself,18 many in India were eager to
associate themselves with this sort of muscular modernity. Active in reconfiguring the
popular music terrain, Goans and Anglo-Indians, who claimed both Indian and
European ancestry, learned to perform jazz and market it towards a wider set of
consumers, including the less affluent audiences. Jazz music served as an effective
means for these two ethnicised communities to empower themselves by
commodifying the value placed on its emancipatory potential as a tool of modernity.
Often the victims of prejudice in India because of their bi-racial status, these musicians
were drawn to jazz as a way to restructure their marginality by appropriating control
over public-domain entertainment markets in cosmopolitan centres throughout India.
According to Dinerstein, exciting changes in modern technology and mass production
in the music industry on a global scale were in a sense coded into American music by
African Americans.19 Seeing potential in the fast-paced development of coded
musical traditions, and hearing the modern world in its performance, many AngloIndians and Goans in India found jazz appealing, and understood the potential to
effectively integrate the non-British and non-colonial West into local musical
production. By the mid-1930s, Anglo-Indians and Goans were performing jazz in
clubs and cafes in many cities throughout India.20
Faye V. Harrison observes in a different context that racial meanings and
hierarchies are unstable, but this instability is constrained by poles of difference that
have remained relatively constant: white supremacy and the black subordination that
demarcates the social bottom.21 Though black, the special status given to African
Americans was re-routed through the syntax of white privilege. Mr Weatherford, in
saying They treat us white folks fine, does not allude to black empowerment, but
rather locates the black body (and its attendant status) on par with whites, who
remain tacitly at the top. The modernity that African Americans symbolized was not
colour-coded, but was linked to Western power, technology, and emancipation.
Racial hierarchies thus become fluid, signifying both authority and resistance.
Redefining difference in such a manoeuvre, African Americans were perhaps given
what Harrison refers to as an honorary white status,22 noting that strict racial
hierarchies can be bridgeable. Anglo-Indians and Goans, existing between other
racially homogenous communities, had a keen interest in these bridges.23
years between 19171922 with bands that consisted of piano, violin, cello, string
bass and drums and they played ragtime foxtrots and Viennes waltzes mostly.25 Much
of the repertoire was classical and tempered with the exception of travelling
orchestras that performed on occasion in large cities. In the year 1934, Roy Butler,
Rudy Jackson, Creighton Thompson, Crickett Smith, Cuban Luis Pedroso and later
Teddy Weatherford converged in Bombay to perform at the Taj Mahal Hotel. Over
the next few years, these originary musicians were at the forefront of jazz
performance in India, which solidified the status of African American musicianship as
being an important, legitimizing force. Beginning with these musicians, the notion
that jazz and Western popular music was and could be a part of the development of
mass entertainment and popular music in India became apparent.
Roy Butler was one principal figure among jazz musicians in India. He arrived in
India on 27 December 1933 after spending the previous six months touring Europe
and South America. In Calcutta, he began performing with Herb Flemmings Rhythm
Aces, which included musicians Crickett Smith on trumpet, Herb Flemming on
trombone, Cle Saddler and Roy Butler on saxophone, Caeser Rios on piano, Harold
Kumai on bass and Luis Pedroso on drums.26 A short time later Herb Flemming left
for Shanghai, and Roy Butler moved to Mussoorie on June 13, 1934 to perform with
the Trocadero Rhythm Aces (figure 1). He played regularly at the Trocadero until
29 September 1934 when he left to perform at the Taj Mahal Hotel in Bombay. There
he played with Joseph Ghisleries Symphonians and shortly thereafter Crickett
Smiths Symphonians. For the next few years, big-name players established their own
FIGURE 1
The Trocadero Rhythm Aces. Mussoorie, 1934 by Unknown photographer. Roy Butler is
in the centre in the front row. Permission granted by the Chicago Public Library, Roy Butler
Collection, Music Information Center.
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FIGURE 2 Roy Butlers Indian Orchestra. Taj Mahal Hotel, Bombay, 1942 by Ferenc Berko.
Permission granted by the Chicago Public Library, Roy Butler Collection, Music Information Center.
! Ferenc Berko.
jazz bands in India. In 1936, Teddy Weatherford arrived from Singapore to launch
Teddy Weatherford and His Band, in which Butler played saxophone. In 1941
Butler started Roy Butlers Indian Orchestra, which was composed entirely of
Anglo-Indians and Goans (figure 2). He also at times played with Luis Moreno and
His Orchestra and Mario and His Band in Colombo, as well as other orchestras for
short periods.
Roy Butler and the Trocadero Rhythm Aces in Mussoorie is particularly
interesting to note (figure 1). In this photograph, the stage has an art deco sunburst
radiating design as its main thematic element, which was symbolic of contemporary
notions of modernity. The use of the word rhythm here was one of the first
instances when such terms were used to describe modern jazz orchestras in small, hill
resort cities such as Mussoorie. Though there are no recordings of this orchestra at the
time, it is possible to speculate that the instrumentation, the name, and the orchestra
proxemics signalled that this group played standard jazz tunes, and was integrated into
the regular entertainment line-up of the Trocadero. Other photographs of this
orchestra illustrate a standard jazz drum kit, documenting the fact that the percussion
instruments consisted of the usual paraphernalia used by bands in the United States at
the time, including temple blocks, cymbals on stands, and cymbals mounted on a
large bass drum.
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FIGURE 3 Deep South Boys. By Unknown photographer. From left to right: Crickett Smith, Teddy
Weatherford, Rudy Jackson, and Roy Butler. Permission granted by the Chicago Public Library, Roy
Butler Collection, Music Information Center.
Bombay. None of the programme booklets of their performances lists the songs they
performed, except as Negro Spirituals, which added to their anonymity and
distanced appeal. One can surmise that such a deliberate racialization worked in the
quartets favour, which on the one hand had capitalised on the blending of Western
music into something that came out of the Southern Black United States, and on the
other hand, lent itself to the emancipatory potential of jazz music itself. Furthermore,
the fact that Creighton Thompson was active in performing and recording Black
Spirituals in New York City with the famous James Reese Europe in the late 1910s
provided a layer of authenticity to these diffuse pre-conceptions associated with black
bodies performing jazz.
Butler travelled back-and-forth between Bombay, Calcutta and Colombo. He left
India for short periods to travel to Singapore, Paris, and Holland, but he was based
mostly in Bombay and Calcutta. In the early 1940s, Roy Butler started his own band
in Bombay, which he called Roy Butlers Indian Orchestra (see figure 2), they
performed frequently, but largely on their own at Greens Hotel, where for six nights
a week they were the headlining group, but were not directly involved in the hotels
cabaret events. Interviewed in 1977, Mr Butler maintains that his work as an
orchestra leader in India for these few months was not necessarily a positive
experience.34 He claims that this was largely because he had only Indian musicians to
work with, all the Americans having departed, and the local musicians were not too
familiar with jazz at the time.35 Many African American musicians left India,
primarily because work was more difficult to find, but also because the American
consulate was encouraging its citizens to leave India in light of the threat of Japanese
bombing campaigns.36 This group lasted only a few months until 1942, when Roy
Butler again rejoined Teddy Weatherford in Calcutta. Butler was also invited to
perform as a saxophonist with the All India Radio Studio Jazz Orchestra in 1943. He
left India on October 14, 1944 to return to Chicago because the war was in full
swing and the Japs [sic] dropped a few bombs in the harbour around Calcutta and
[he] decided it was [his] time to go home.37
Teddy Weatherford
Between 1936 and 1945 Teddy Weatherford fronted most of the orchestras that were
composed of African American musicians. Originally from Virginia, Weatherford moved
to Chicago where he was an immediate sensation,38 performing with Jimmy Wade and
later with Erskine Tate of the Vendome Theatre Orchestra. The famous Earl Hines was
said to have been heavily influenced by Weatherfords piano style, and at the time was
regarded as the champ of the ivories.39 As an integral part of the blossoming Chicago
scene of the mid-1920s, Weatherford was closely aligned with and active in developing a
new Chicago jazz sound. He travelled to East Asia in the mid- to late-1920s, where he
developed a reputation as a talented ex-patriot jazz musician. He then settled in India in
1936, and like Butler, moved between Calcutta, Bombay and Colombo, with sporadic
trips to other Asian metropoles like Singapore, Shanghai, and Sourabaya. He performed
with the Plantation Quartet on occasion, as well as in many of the same orchestras as
Butler. Records indicate that he also visited some European cities during this span.
Weatherford often hired Goan and Anglo-Indian musicians to perform beginning in
1941, and was keen on hiring female crooners, while holding on to his stable of African
Americans such as Roy Butler, Creighton Thompson, Crickett Smith, Rudy Jackson, as
well as Cuban Luis Pedroso. His interest in creating a mixed-race performance group was
both aesthetic and personal, as he married an Anglo-Indian woman, Lorna Shortland,
who sang vocals in his bands. Between late 1941 and 1945, he spent most of his time in
Calcutta, and his orchestra included notable Anglo-Indian, Burmese and Goan musicians,
including George Banks, Bill McDermott, Pat Blake, Cedric West, Reuben Soloman,
Paul Gonsalves, Rudy Cotton, Tony Gonsalves, and (there is sketchy evidence) George
Leonardi.
Marketing strategies often included allusions to minstrelsy in the advertisements
for his performances.40 For example, the 19381939 season booklets from the Taj
Mahal Hotel in Bombay promote Teddy Weatherford and His Band with Gypsy
Markoff.41 On the front page, Weatherfords head is exaggerated in size and his lips
are accentuated, showing bright white teeth, almost making his face is cartoonish as
was often the custom when promoting minstrel shows. His right hand is white on the
brochure, which signalled the white gloves often worn in minstrels. Although an
accomplished musician, Weatherford was still promoted as an exotic, minstrel
performer, with all the customary, racist trappings. The inside page of this booklet has
a more serious tone, with photos of all the musicians and signers in a collage around
Gypsy Markoff and Lillian Warner, the female crooners.
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Though this is a standard jazz foxtrot, the lyrics exhibit themes that mirrored some of
the characteristics of gospel music at the time that emphasized the importance and
stability of the African American church as a spiritual centre. Sung by Creighton
Thompson, this song hints at joy, praise, and collective admiration. The lyrics portray
an image of the Taj Mahal standing alone rising against the sky filled with the crooning
lovers, and we celebrate its mysterious divine authority. Gospel pieces at the time
referenced the church in similar terms, such as its blessed power to create a sense of
shared belief and unity among African Americans. As we now gaze across time and
cultures, it is possible to see that the much of the lyric composition lies in the
tradition of gospel music. The Taj Mahal is not a symbol of the divine or a place of
mysticism; it is a love shrine. The slippage lies in the translation of cultural
symbolisms, because the composer misread the Taj Mahal as a monument of divine
authority. In this context, Creighton Thompsons deep and resonant vocal style also
enhanced the gospel mode, influenced by his background singing Black spirituals. To
appeal to an audience outside of India, or to the foreigners staying in the Taj Mahal
hotel, there are also some hints of exoticism. The Taj Mahal is mystic and guards a
secret of its own. To both audiences in India and to foreigners staying in the Taj
Mahal hotel, this collusion of cultural and religious signs resulted in a mixture of
exoticised entertainment.
Because many of the musicians had only been in India for a few months at the
time of the recording, the song was composed in a style that mirrored contemporary
trends in the United States. Furthermore, like Teddy Weatherford, some of the other
musicians who recorded on this track were notable figures in the early development
of jazz. Creighton Thompson was actively recording Black Spirituals with James Reese
Europe in New York City in the years before moving to India. Cricket Smith, who
performed on the trumpet in Taj Mahal, was also a central figure in the early
development of jazz.46 Though some critics like Darke and Gulliver dismiss the
recordings in India in the mid-1930s as unexceptional, documented evidence about
the history of jazz attests to the fact that the work of this set of musicians does exhibit
a style that followed popular trends and artistic influences of pioneers in its early
growth.
Between 1940 and 1941, Teddy Weatherford and His Band performed on
occasion at the Galle Face Hotel in Colombo, as did Crickett Smith, Roy Butler, and
Luis Pedroso. According to trumpeter and arranger Louis Moreno, they [p]rovided
music for dancing and cabaret acts.47 Weatherford found the music they played
circumscribed and frustrating, as he was expected to play music he little
understood,48 and was keen to move back to Calcutta when offered a bandleader
position at the Grand Hotel in 1941. Upon returning to Calcutta, Weatherford
recorded a number of tracks with Columbia records, and Roy Butler returned to
perform with Weatherford in 1942 where they continued to record until 1944.
Weatherfords band at this time also included Burmese musicians Reuben Soloman
and Cedric West, as well as notables Rudy Cotton, Tony Gonsalves and Pat Blake, all
of whom went on to become popular performers throughout India. Sadly, the
presence of African Americans musicians of this era ended when Teddy Weatherford
died of cholera in 1945. From 1941 to 1945 (especially after Weatherfords death),
the performance of jazz reveals more and more cabaret acts being included in the lineup. Though this move did not parallel the growth of jazz in the United States or
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Europe, and did not include nostalgia for the hot jazz that Weatherford championed,
it marked a moment when African American bands began to decline in popularity as
cabarets came to occupy center-stage status. Part of this rebuff can also be attributed
to a nebulous but persistent perception amongst audiences beginning in the early
1940s that African Americans were not on the cutting-edge of jazz music, but rather,
were part of its initial development in the United States. Remarkably, this ebb of
popularity in public performances led to the creation and appreciation of a new sound
that was considered specifically Indian, and influenced some of the early Hindi film
songs of the 1940s and early 1950s, especially in Bombay.49
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Conclusion
Initially, African American musicians performing in India were considered to be on
the cutting-edge in terms of creativity in musicianship, and they were imitated as
exotic others, who had the power to initiate artistic change within the established
music culture of India. In projecting as sense of freedom from Imperial rule in the
inclusion of African American jazz in the space of the popular imaginary, some Indian
audiences, without articulating it as such, felt that popular music blurred boundaries
and differences of class, race, or ethnicity. The compelling influence that African
American musicians exerted early-on was testament to the potential of popular music
to reconstruct notions of us and them, and the power relations between polarised
communities. Though African American musicians in India were eventually seen as
antiquated, they helped establish the notion that fresh sites of difference introduced
into the popular terrain was indeed emancipatory. A renewed vision of racialised
politics became available to Anglo-Indian and Goan musicians when African
Americans emerged as atypical examples of success. Ultimately, Anglo-Indians and
Goans championed this new and potent aesthetic, effectively participating in the
creation of localised popular music as a political and economic strategy of
empowerment, which influenced the early growth of hybrid Hindi film song.
Acknowledgements
I wish to thank Gita Rajan and Vinay Lal for their thoughtful comments on earlier
versions of this essay. I am also grateful to Mirte Berko Mallory of Berko Photography
for allowing me to reprint the photograph of Roy Butler and His Indian Orchestra.
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claim that they are Anglo-Indian, but there is now a growing preference to be called
Goan (Caplan 749).
For more complete discussions of hybrid music in the early film industry, see
Barnouw and Krishnaswamy; Chakravarty; Chandravarkar 6675; Skillman 133
144.
Appelrouth 14961509.
Appelrouth 1502.
Laubenstein 618.
Laubenstein 619.
Laubenstein 622.
Sun-young 428.
Sun-young 423.
Interview with James Sebastian (name changed), Lucknow, 2001.
Ibid.
James Perry, who performed jazz on the guitar in Lucknow beginning in World
War II, also asserts that African Americans have a heightened capacity for musical
expression (interview with Perry at Lucknow, 2001a; b). He underscores the place
of Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington and other major African American musicians as
the primary innovators. Luis Moreno, a Spanish trumpeter working in India in the
1940s, asserts that [w]hen these coloured men took over they had a style and a
smile they were soul people (Gulliver 4), implying that African Americans
were a legitimizing force in the music world in India, and were crucial in making
jazz a popular form of entertainment.
The folks who are going to try and amuse the audience. From the Roy G. Butler
Collection, Music Information Center, Chicago Public Library.
Roy G. Butler Collection, Music Information Center, Chicago Public Library.
Radano and Bohlman 462.
Dinerstein 6.
Lucknow was one such example. The Mayfair Cinema and Ballroom was
constructed there in 1939 in stunning art deco style. This venue had formal dances
with full orchestras and a resident Master of Ceremonies. Another, the Ambassador
Ballroom, was known as the American club during the last years of World War II
because it was often frequented by United State military personnel who were
stationed there. The Railway Institute and the Lucknow Club had performances that
catered largely to Anglo-Indian patrons. Other public venues supporting jazz
performances in the area were the Blue Haven cafe, Melrose, the Soldiers Club,
The Silver Snow cafe, and The Royal Cafe. Other exclusive clubs such as The
Mohammad Bagh Club and the United Services Club in the Chattar Manzil were
also booking jazz orchestras on occasion, and musicians were generally paid best in
these venues, which helped support a circuit of professional local musicians. James
Perry, who was performing jazz on the guitar in World War II Lucknow, stresses
that the sense of cosmopolitanism that jazz afforded was connected to the artistic
and avant-garde spirit of colonial Lucknow, closely integrating popular music with
the intellectual and cultural innovations characteristic of the history of the city
(interview with Perry at Lucknow, 2001a). Amaresh Misra links this sensibility
largely to young Anglo-Indians who were active in establishing a non-colonial
West (Misra 230) in Lucknow. Presenting a cultural challenge to the British,
Anglo-Indians were caroused to the beat of the swing and the jive, playing out
latest jazz numbers (Misra 229). In this instance jazz helped circulate the notion
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The late 1930s and early 1940s saw a transformation and reorganization of the film
music industry (Barnouw and Krishnaswamy). With the advent of the microphone
and other sound technologies, the popular playback system became more standard,
characterised by actors lip synchronising songs recorded by vocalists in studios
(Skillman 135). Musicians were increasingly hired to perform on foreign
instruments, adding new character to regional styles highlighted in many films.
In an effort to appeal to a larger and more lucrative market, foreign elements were
used as a common denominator in a linguistically, musically, politically, and
economically diverse country.
Barnouw and Krishnaswamy 148. An increase in the number of films in the 1940s
and 1950s that appealed to larger audiences offered the potential for composers to
pioneer a wider diversity of musical styles (Arnold 182). The first music directors
were largely theatre musicians who brought their own regional styles with them to
the industry. When Hindi film production started to increase rapidly, more
composers and musicians throughout India arrived in Bombay and Madras to profit
from its lucrative yields, which lead to a multiplication of the sources from which
[musicians and composers] drew inspiration (Arnold 186). According to Peter
Manuel, since the 1940s many of the folk forms that were important in the
production of film music were modernised with the addition of pre-composed
orchestral accompaniment, employing Western and/or Indian instruments
(Manuel 164). The avant-garde, modern, and transnationalist sensibility that
Indian film often afforded was appealing to the cosmopolitan music aesthetic of
Goans, and was perhaps one important element in attracting many to the film song
industry.
Many of these elements of Latin music were drawn from stereotypes found in
Hollywood films.
Times of India, Bombay Edition, 2 November 1951.
From descriptions of their performances in the Times of India and program brochures
from the Chicago Public Library, Roy G. Butler Collection, Music Information
Center.
Times of India, Bombay Edition, 9 November 1951.
Vasudevan 99.
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Discography
Jazz and Hot Dance in India-19261944, LP, Harlequin (HQ 2013), 1984.
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Bradley Shope Department of Fine Arts, St Johns University, Queens, NY 11439, USA.
[email: shopeb@stjohns.edu]